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Risk  Culture  and  Internal  Audit  

Angus  Ang  CISA,PMP,  CC  

[email protected]  

This  presenta?on  and  views  expressed  are  my  own  and  do  not  represent  or  aCempt  to  represent  the  Bank’s  opinion  or  stand  in  any  way.  

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Risk  Culture  and  Internal  IT  Audit  Synopsis    1.  A  risk  culture  maturity  ladder  model  is  proposed  to  categorize  these  different  risk  

culture  manifesta?ons  2.  All  the  possible  job  types  of  internal  IT  auditors  are  iden?fied  and  discussed    -­‐>  to  understand  the  implica-on  and  challenges  of  the  FI’s  risk  culture  maturity  on  the  auditors.  

This  presenta?on  does    •   not  aim  to  be  prescrip?ve  about  what  FI’s  Internal  audit  should  or  not  do,    •   through  research,  personal  experiences  and  interviews  • aims  to  provide  a  framework  for  auditors,  Chief  Audit  Execu?ve  (CAE)  and  management  to  understand  where  their  risk  culture  stands,  its  implica-ons  and  its  auditors’  challenges.  

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Risk  Culture  and  Internal  IT  Audit  Speaker’s  profile    Angus  Ang  is      1.  an  IT  auditor  with  Group  Audit  DBS  Bank  in  Singapore.    

2.  over  10  years  of  experience  in  the  IT  industry  spanning  across  IT  development,  project  management,  consultancy  and  audit.    

3.  has  a  basic  degree  in  Computer  Engineering,  masters  degree  in  Applied  Economics  and  is  a  cer?fied  CISA  and  PMP.  

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Introduc?on/Agenda  

Why  Risk  Culture?  

Enterprise  Risk  Management  (ERM)  

Risk  Appe?te  

Risk  mgmt  process  

Risk  mgmt  methods  

Risk  Culture  &  ERM  

What  is  IA?     IA  in  Enterprise  Risk  Management  

IA  guidelines  

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IA  re-­‐posi?oning  

Working  with  IA  

Conclusion  &  Take-­‐aways  

Risk  culture  and  IA  jobs  

Risk  Culture  Maturity  

IA  Jobs  

Agenda  

This  presenta?on  and  views  expressed  are  my  own  and  do  not  represent  or  aCempt  to  represent  the  Bank’s  opinion  or  stand  in  any  way.  

Why  Risk  Culture?  

‘Cul?va?on  of  a  consistent  risk  culture  throughout  firms  is  the  most  important  element  in  risk  management  ‘  2008  report  by  Ins'tute  of  Interna'onal  Finance  (IIF)  on  the  failings  that  led  to  the  credit  and  liquidity  crisis  among  global  banks

Sep  2008-­‐  The  Economist  depic>ng  Fannie  Mae,  Freddie  Mac,  Lehman  Bros,  AIG  spiraling  down  into  a  tornado  

WIKI:  The  financial  crisis  was  triggered  by  a  complex  interplay  of  policies  that    i.  encouraged  home  ownership,  …  ii.  overvalua?on  of  bundled  sub-­‐prime  mortgages…  iii.  ques?onable  trading  prac?ces    iv.  compensa?on  structures,  v.  Lack  of  adequate  capital  holdings…  

Risk  management  culture  22.  Supervisors  should  require  that  the  financial  conglomerate  have  in  place  processes  and  procedures  to  engender  an  appropriate  group-­‐wide  risk  management  culture.  Principles  for  the  supervision  of  financial  conglomerates,  Basel  Commi<ee  on  Banking  Supervision  (Joint  Forum),  September  2012  

11.6  …the  responsibili-es  of  the  Board  include,  but  are  not  limited  to:  (a)  seJng  the  tone  from  the  top,  and  inculca-ng  an  appropriate  risk  culture  throughout  the  firm…  Guidelines  on  Corporate  Governance  for  Financial  Holding  Companies,  Banks,  Direct  Insurers,  Reinsurers  and  Cap>ve  Insurers  which  are  Incorporated  in  Singapore,  The  Monetary  Authority  of  Singapore,  3  April  2013       6  

Enterprise   Risk   Management   serves   the   corporate  objec?ves   to   achieve   performance.   Risk   appe?te  defines  the  risk  management  limits  &  tolerance  which  guides  risk  management  ac?vi?es  

Risk  Appe?te    

Risk  mgmt  Ac?vi?es  

Biz  strategy  &  Environ  

Biz  objec?ves  

Corporate  Planning   Enterprise  Risk  Management  

Biz  return    

Corporate  Performance  

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Risk  limits          &  tolerance  

Quan?fiable  Credit  –  PD,  EAD,  LGD,EL,  Ra?ng  Liquidity  –  bid-­‐offer  spread,  MCO  Market  –  VAR,  stress  test  

Non*  Quan?fiable  Opera?onal  –’Basel  II  3  approaches’,  failure/incident  Technology  –  up?me/response  Reputa?onal    *or  harder  to  quan?fy  Abbrevia?ons:  

PD  –  Probability  of  Default  EAD-­‐  Exposure  at  Default  LGD  –  Loss  Given  Default  EL  –  Expected  Loss  MCO  –  Maxiumum  Cumula?ve  Oullow  VAR  –  Value-­‐At-­‐Risk  

Risk  Treatments                              

Process                              

While  Enterprise  Risk  Management  (ERM)  is  more  complicated  involving  different  units  and  methodologies,  Risk  Management    process  &  treatment  are  clearer  and  consistent  

Avoid  Eliminate/  withdraw  

Reduce  Op?mise/  mi?gate  

Share  Transfer/  outsource  

Retent  Accept/  budge  

Assess  Risk  

Control  Risk  

ReviewControl  

Iden?fy  Risk  

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Corporate  Planning  

Enterprise  Risk  Management  

Corporate  Performance  

Risk  Culture  is  central  to  the  ERM.  It  tends  to  result/develop  from  top-­‐down  policies,  processes  &  repor?ng  structures  .  However,  risk  culture  ‘feedbacks’  to  ERM  too  in  further  developing  the  ERM  (policies/procedures,etc)  

Biz  strategy  &  Environ  

Biz  objec?ves  

Risk  Appe?te    

Risk  mgmt  Ac?vi?es  

Biz  return    

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Ref: The RMA Journal: Jul-Aug 2013

Risk  culture  manifests  in  collec?ve  behaviours  and  mindset.  Here  we  aCempt  to  show  the  more  dis?nc?ve  features  of  different  levels  of  risk  cultures  

• Risk  issues  pushed  to  inappropriate  staff  • Risk  ac?vi?es  opposite  to  corporate  strategic  objec?ves  

• IA  func?on  unknown/unfamiliar  • IA  double  hapng  • IA  repor?ng  to  opera?onal  head  

• Risk  accountability  within  mgmt  and  policies  to  guide  decision  making  

• Clearly  defined  RM  role  • Defined  risk  mgmt  course  

• Coherent  ERM  framework  incorpora?ng  all  the  risk  and  control  units  • Risk-­‐adjusted  performance  established  

• Risk  profile  op?mised  for  compara?ve  advantage  • Risk  appe?te,  strategic  direc?on,  risk  ac?vi?es  aligned  

• Risk  monitored  by  excep?on  • Some  issues  not  tracked,  owned/closed  

• KPI  against  audit  issues  • Risk  mgmt  address  only  past  incidents  • Mgmt  pays  lip  service  to  risk  control  

• Single  view  of  risk  across  organisa?on  (structure,  system,  process)  

• Hire  and  promo?on  considers  risk  inputs  • Sees  risk  issues  as  areas  to  perfect  

Abbrevia?ons:  IA  –  Internal  Audit  KPI  –  Key  Performance  Indicator  RM  –  Risk  Management  ERM  –  Enterprise  Risk  Management    

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Ref:  pWc-­‐Get  up  to  speed  

• No  commitment  to  risk;  only  biz  support  • BAU-­‐firefight,  incidents  are  clearly  preventable  • Weak  IA  charter  

• IA  &  compliance  role  unclear  • No  KPI  on  risk  ac?vi?es  • CRO  or  Ops  Hd  as  CAE  

• Risk  en??es  part  of  new  project/product  risk  assessment/opera?on  planning  &  execu?on  • Whistle  blow  procedures  established  

• IA  findings  are  beyond  compliance/policy  nature  • IA  invited  to  most  forums/mee?ngs  

• Coherent  ERM  framework  incorpora?ng  all  the  risk  and  control  units  • Risk  mgmt  driven  from  board  level  

• CAE  is  ?er  1  execu?ve  • KPI  on  self  iden?fied  risk  issues  or  audit  recommenda?ons  to    improve  

• CAE  repor?ng  to  execu?ve  board  only  • Some  understanding  of  risk  mgmt,  roles  of  risk  en??es  

• Prevalent  and  systema?c  way  to  work  against  risk  control  and  units  

• Board  assumes  defined  risks   • Risk  and  control  units  work  closely  to  complement  and  advance  ERM  

Abbrevia?ons:  AC-­‐  Audit  CommiCee    CRO  –  Chief  Risk  Officer  ERM  –  Enterprise  Risk  Management   11  

While  what  represent  what  level  of  maturity  is  controversial,  we  hope  to  at  least  provide  certain  representa?on  of  each  maturity  level.  It  is  the  CAE,  AC  and  management  decision  on  what  level  of  risk  maturity  level  is  op?mal  for  the  company  

Abbrevia?ons:  BAU  –  Business  As  Usual  IA  –  Internal  Audit  KPI  –  Key  Performance  Indicator  CAE  –  Chief  Audit  Execu?ve  

Agenda  

This  presenta?on  and  views  expressed  are  my  own  and  do  not  represent  or  aCempt  to  represent  the  Bank’s  opinion  or  stand  in  any  way.  

What  is  Internal  Audit  (IA)?    What  are  the  roles  and  objec?ves  of  auditors?  

Ref:  www.spf.gov.sg  

• Many  see  auditors  as  the  mata  mata  (police).  

• To  catch,  reprimand  in  order  to  upkeep  the  law  (or  policies)  

• Is  IA/auditors  all  about  catching/finding  issues?    

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A  closer  examina?on  of  the  standard  of  prac?ce  by  IIA  shows  the  IA  work  is  not  about  ‘policing’  If  IA  focus  on  finding  faults,  it  would  be  missing  the  forest  for  the  trees  

 INTERNATIONAL  STANDARDS  FOR  THE  PROFESSIONAL  PRACTICE  OF  INTERNAL  AUDITING  (STANDARDS)    dated  Oct  2012  By  Ins'tute  of  Internal  Auditors  (IIA)  

2100  –  Nature  of  Work  The   internal   audit   ac?vity   must   evaluate   and  contribute   to   the   improvement   of   governance,   risk  management,  and  control  processes  using  a  systema?c  and  disciplined  approach  .  

2110  –  Governance*  The   internal   audit   ac?vity   must   assess   and   make  appropriate   recommenda?ons   for   improving   the  governance   process   in   its   accomplishment   of   the  following  objec?ves:  • Promo?ng   appropriate   ethics   &   values   within   the  organisa?on  • Ensuring   effec?ve   organisa?on   performance  management  &  accountability  • Communica?ng  risk  &  control  • Coordina?ng   ac?vi?es   &   informa?on   among   board,  external  auditors,  internal  auditors  &  management.  

2120  –  Risk  Management*  The  internal  audit  ac?vity  must  evaluate  the  effec?veness  and   contribute   to   the   improvement   of   risk   management  processes.    2130  –  Control*  The   internal   audit   ac?vity  must   assist   the   organiza?on   in  maintaining   effec?ve   controls   by   evalua?ng   their  effec?veness   and  efficiency   and  by  promo?ng   con?nuous  improvement.  

Findings/  Recommenda?ons  

Evaluate   Improvement  of  1.  governance,  2.  risk  mgmt  &  3.  control  environment  

Means   Objec-ves  

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* sub-points 2110.A1/2,2120 interpretation,2120.A1/2,C1/2/3, 2030.A1,C1 are not reflected here

IA  is  commonly  understood  to  be  the  third  line  of  defense  against  risk  events.  IA  is  part  of  the  the  ERM  ecosystem  together  with  IT  governance,  compliance  and  risk  mgmt!  

IIA:  Posi?on  paper  on  3  lines  of  defense  for  ERM.  Jan  2013

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We  iden?fy  IA  job  types  and  categorize  them  into  7  main  types  based  on  commonality,  difficulty  to  conduct  and  audit  approach.  The  ‘newer’,  more  difficult  and  involved  job  types  can  bring  more  value  but  are  also  more  challenging  to  conduct.  The  various  considera?ons  need  to  be  addressed...  

Considera-ons:  +  Skillsets            +  Methodology            +Engagement          +Deliverables          +Scope          +Value  adding            +Independence   16  

                                           

• Regulatory  • Corp  gov  • ERM  process  • Ethnics  • Execu>ve  compensa>on  • Outsource  ops  • ISO/QA  • Compliance  

1.  Regular/  Scheduled  /Regulatory  audits  

                           

                             

                         

• Fraud  • Regulators'  request  

• Process  imp  • Data  mgmt  

• Whistle  blow  

3.  Ad-­‐hoc  requests  

4.  Consultancy  

5.  Inves-ga-on  

                                     

2.  Post-­‐Implementa-on  assessment  

• Post-­‐cutover  assessment  

6.  Pre-­‐Implementa-on  assessment  

• Project  assess  • Penetra?on  test  &  Vulnerability  assessment  

   

7.  M&A/  Integra-on  assessment  

• Due  Diligence  

Par-cipa-ve/  An-cipa-ve/Reac-ve  Approach  

Collabora-ve  

Commonality  of  Audit  Job  types   Difficulty  of  Audit  Job  types  Non-­‐compliance   Evalua-on   Biz/Process  

Op-misa-on  Standardisa-on  

IIA  has  a  posi?on  paper  on  the  types  of  IA  jobs  that  should  not  be  undertaken,  can  be  undertaken  with  safeguards  and  are  core  IA  roles.      

Ref:  -­‐Fear  Factor  Feb  2013.  The  Internal  auditor  I-­‐IIIA  Posi?on  Paper  Jan  2009:  The  Role  of  Internet  Audi?ng  in  Enterprise-­‐wide  Risk  Management  

Agenda  

This  presenta?on  and  views  expressed  are  my  own  and  do  not  represent  or  aCempt  to  represent  the  Bank’s  opinion  or  stand  in  any  way.  

Now  that  we  have  seen  the  various  examples  of  different  risk  culture  maturity  levels,  what  ERM  &  IA  is  about.  How  are  these  3  related?    

Risk  Culture  

Enterprise  Risk  Management  (ERM)  

IA  Part  of  …  

The  various  job  types  of  internal  IT  auditors  are  iden?fied  against  the  risk  culture  maturity  levels  in  a  typical  setup.  Different  risk  culture  supports  different  IA  job  types.  While  conduc?ng  the  more  value  adding  job  types  help  to  develop  the  risk  culture,  IA  faces  more  ‘head  wind’  when  the  risk  culture  is  rela?vely  immature  

Commonality  of  Audit  Job  types   Difficulty  of  Audit  Job  types  

Considera-ons:  +  Skillsets            +  Methodology            +Engagement          +Deliverables          +Scope          +Value  adding            +Independence  

Par-cipa-ve/  An-cipa-ve/Reac-ve  Approach  

Non-­‐compliance   Evalua-on   Value-­‐adding  

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• Regulatory  • Corp  gov  • ERM  process  • Ethnics  • Execu>ve  compensa>on  • Outsource  ops  • ISO/QA  • Compliance  

Regular/  Scheduled  /Regulatory  audits  

                           

                             

                         

• Fraud  • Regulators'  request  

• Process  imp  • Data  mgmt  

• Whistle  blow  

Ad-­‐hoc  requests   Consultancy   Inves-ga-on  

                                     

Post-­‐Implementa-on  assessment  

• Post-­‐cutover  assessment  

Pre-­‐Implementa-on  assessment  • Project  assess  • Penetra?on  test  &  Vulnerability  assessment  

   

M&A/  Integra-on  assessment  

• Due  Diligence  

Collabora-ve  

Biz/Process  Op-misa-on  

Standardisa-on  

IT   governance,   risk/compliance   &   IA   all   risk  manages.  They  all  play  a  part   in   the  same  risk  ecosystem,   more   synergy   can   be   derived   in  working  closely  together  

Process                              

Assess  Risk  

Control  Risk  

ReviewControl  

Iden?fy  Risk  

• All  Risk  and  control  units  work  on  the  same  risk  management  process  • Since  all  these  units  belong  to  the  same  corporate/bank,  why  are  all  units  (IT  gov,  risk/compliance,  audit)  doing  the  whole  process  separately  and  disparately?    Would  it  make  sense  for  all  these  units  to  conduct  the  ‘iden?fy  risk’  process  together?    Or  at  least  align  the  same  risk  focused  areas?    

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Takeaway for Internal auditors

Can  IA  see  itself  as  an  integral  en?ty  within  the  ERM,  align  its  risk  focus  areas  with  all  the  risk  and  control  units  and  contribute  coherently  to  the  for  corporate  performance  based  on  established  risk  appe?te?    

Biz  strategy  &  Environ  

Biz  objec?ves  

Risk  Appe?te    

Risk  mgmt  Ac?vi?es  

Biz  return    

Corporate  Planning   Enterprise  Risk  Management  

Corporate  Performance  

Def  Risk  Appe?te  

Iden?fy,            assess,  control  

Risk  Monitoring    

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Takeaway for Internal auditors

1.  IT  Gov  

2.  Risk,    Compliance    

3.  Audit    3  lines  of  defenses!  

By  asser?ng  its  independence  in  its  IA,  IA  can  value-­‐add  in  providing  independent  assessment  and  recommenda?on  while  remaining  coherent  in  addressing  the  iden?fied  higher-­‐priority  enterprise  risks.  In  this  way,  the  real  strength  of  3  lines  of  defense  can  be  realised    

IT  Gov  

Risk,    Compliance    

Audit    

Risk  event  

Risk  event  

Risk  event  

Risk  event  

Risk  event  

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Takeaway for Internal auditors

1.IT  Gov  

2.  Risk,    Compliance    

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Risk  Focus  Area1  

Risk  Focus  Area3  

Risk  Focus  Area4  

Risk  Focus  Area5  

Risk  Focus  Area2  

Food  for  thought  1.  IA can move an organization forward-not just prevent it from going backward

2.  Few (IA functions) are confident enough to provide specific assurance and recommendations to move risk management ahead in their organization. – barriers cited:1. beyond scope,2. lack of mgmt support,3. lack of coordination or clarity of roles, 4.lack of knowledge, 5.need for training

3.  IIA and IA units were not setup to find faults or establish themselves as public enemies. Indeed, if IA focuses on its end objectives (rather than its means) to value add and improve the overall risk culture together with its stakeholders, it would be able to establish its creditability and become a trusted function of the Bank in advancing its corporate objectives. Similarly, the rest of the IT functions can work with IA to improve its processes and systems with a win-win mindset.

4.  What KPI can be set for IA and other risk-control units to align their efforts to the business and corporate strategy? How does one quantify the value of raising an issue on a risk event that will be mitigated or prevented? Can KPI be set on the 3 key objectives of IA?

5.  If IA’s objective is in the improvement of governance, risk mgmt & control environment. Why is IA spending so much time looking/identifying the weakness, rather than building on the strengths? Are there other ways for IA to meet these objectives short of raising issues

6.  The Risk appetite statement (for credit, market & liquidity) sets the limits & tolerance levels for this risks. This serves as Basis in assessing internal control adequacy (for Audit Committee & SGX). In the absence of a quantifiable risk appetite statement for operation & technology (and corresponding limits & tolerance levels), what then is the basis to assess the adequacy of operational and technology control environment?

7.  Should operation and technology risk be assessed together with the Bank risk (credit, market, liquidity) to understand the interdependencies and impact? 24  

Working  with  IA  

 INTERNATIONAL  STANDARDS  FOR  THE  PROFESSIONAL  PRACTICE  OF  INTERNAL  AUDITING  (STANDARDS)    dated  Oct  2012    2100  –  Nature  of  Work  The  internal  audit  ac?vity  must  evaluate  and  contribute  to  the  improvement  of  governance,  risk  management,  and  control  processes  using  a  systema?c  and  disciplined  approach.    2110  –  Governance  The   internal  audit  ac?vity  must  assess  and  make  appropriate   recommenda?ons   for   improving   the  governance  process   in   its   accomplishment   of   the   following   objec?ves:   promo?ng   appropriate   ethics   &   values,   effec?ve  organisa?on  performance  management  &  accountability,  communica?ng  risk  &  control,  coordina?ng  ac?vi?es  &  informa?on  among  board,  external  auditors,  internal  auditors  &  management.    2120  –  Risk  Management  The   internal   audit   ac?vity   must   evaluate   the   effec?veness   and   contribute   to   the   improvement   of   risk  management  processes.    2130  –  Control  The   internal   audit   ac?vity   must   assist   the   organiza?on   in   maintaining   effec?ve   controls   by   evalua?ng   their  effec?veness  and  efficiency  and  by  promo?ng  con?nuous  improvement.  

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Takeaway for other IT functions

Working  with  IA  IA’s  objec?ves  • for  improving  the  governance  process  • effec?ve  organisa?on  performance  management  • contribute  to  the  improvement  of  risk  management  processes.  

Misconcep?on:  IA’s  KPI  is  on  the  number  of  issues  it  raises  However,  IA  needs  to  demonstrate  its  work  done  &  jus?fy  for  its  hours    1.  Engage/use/leverage  on  IA’s  wealth  of  knowledge  in  regula?on,  process  and  control  

vulnerability  especially  in  pre-­‐implementa?on  2.  Setup   ground   rules   with   IA   so   that   IA   can   value-­‐add   in   providing   opinions   (not  

necessary   issues)  such  that  process  and  systems  can  be   improved  and  not   layered  with  extra  control  (especially  pre-­‐implementa?on  projects)  

3.  Awer  excep?on  is  found,  work  with  IA  to  improve  control  environment  and  op?mise  process/system  to  derive  effec?ve  and  efficient  control  

 

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Takeaway for other IT functions

Conclusion  IA  need  not  retreat  into  its  secure  realms  of  familiar  jobs  

•  By  ac?vely  engaging  to  re-­‐posi?on  itself  as  an  integral  func?on  of  the  corporate  ERM  

•  And  exploring  newer  job  types  to  value  add,  •  it  can  establish  itself  as  a  trusted  partner  in  advancing  the  

corporate  objec?ves  too.    

IT  stakeholder  can  learn  to  work  with  IA  in  a  win-­‐win  situa?on  •  Understand  IA  beCer  •  Understand  IA’s  role    •  Engage  IA  in  a  win-­‐win  scenario  

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The End

Special  thanks  to:  Jansen  Tang  ([email protected])  

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Contacts:  Angus  Ang  [email protected]  

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Interna?onal  Standards  for  the  Professional  Prac?ce  of  Internal  Audi?ng  (standards)  by  IIA  

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Interna?onal  Standards  for  the  Professional  Prac?ce  of  Internal  Audi?ng  (standards)  by  IIA  

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