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STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
BEVERLY EAVES PERDUE EUGENE A. CONTI, JR. GOVERNOR SECRETARY
MAILING ADDRESS: NC DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TECHNICAL SERVICES DIVISION 1516 MAIL SERVICE CENTER RALEIGH NC 27699-1516
TELEPHONE: 919-715-5663 FAX: 919-715-5361
WEBSITE: WWW.NCDOT.ORG
LOCATION: TRANSPORTATION BUILDING
FIRST FLOOR ROOM 102 1 SOUTH WILMINGTON STREET
RALEIGH NC
September 15, 2011
MEMORANDUM TO: AGC-DOT Joint Cooperative Committee Members FROM: Victor Barbour, PE SUBJECT: May 19, 2011 Minutes for the Joint Cooperative Committee Meeting The Joint Cooperative Committee of the AGC-DOT met at 10:00 a.m. on May 19, 2011 in the Chief Engineer's Conference Room at the NCDOT Equipment and Maintenance Facility, Beryl Road, Raleigh with the following in attendance: Victor Barbour Ricky Greene Mike Long Ron Shaw Kevin Burns Ron Hancock Mike Manning Trent Sherrill Alan Cahill Berry Jenkins Jon Nance Jule Smith Ivan Clayton Drew Johnson Donnie Oldham Lamar Sylvester Susan Coward Don Lee Edward T. Parker Burt Tasaico Steve DeWitt Bob Lofling David Rankin Ricky Vick C.A. Gardner Bryan Long Shelton Russell Paul Worley R.A. Garris Michelle Long Natalie Roskam Sam Young Terry Gibson AGENDA AND DISCUSSION ITEMS Revenue and Budget Update Burt Tasaico Mr. Tasaico outlined the revenue sources and projections for the Department (see Attachment #1). Higher fuel prices, fuel efficiency improvements, and alternative vehicles are expected to reduce revenues in the future. Mr. Tasaico reviewed the slide titled “Transportation Revenue Sources” and noted that the spike in the bar chart in 2006 was due to DMV fees increasing for the first time since 1993. The decline in 2008 was due to the economic downturn. The projected revenue forecast anticipates revenues to return to 2007 levels in 2013, if the gas tax is not capped. Mr. Tasaico reviewed current revenues versus the forecast. He compared retail fuel prices to the motor fuel tax rate and to the fuel consumption in the state. There is no statistical correlation between retail fuel prices and the motor fuel tax rate. There is a strong correlation between the retail fuel prices and the fuel consumption in the state. He noted that 71.4% of the Department’s budget is used for construction and maintenance of roads and bridges. Mr. Tasaico illustrated the correlation between crude oil prices and the N.C. Construction Index and noted a projected 4% annual increase in the N.C. Construction Index over the next decade. The graph titled “10 Year Cash Flow Forecast Comparison - Work Program vs. Gas Cap at ¢32.5/gal” shows the Department’s projected expenditures. Mr. Tasaico explained that at the end of state fiscal year 2014, if the gas tax is capped, the Department is projected to exceed the regulatory limit on the cash reserve. The consequence of falling below the cash balance limit is that no further contracts could be awarded.
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Letting Projections Victor Barbour Mr. Barbour reviewed the draft work flow expected to be approved in June. In fiscal year 2012, the construction budget is projected to be $805 million. In 2013, the budget increases to $1 billion. Between 2014 and 2020, the budget is expected to hold between $1.2 and $1.4 billion. Projections do not include contracting services. Mr. Barbour reviewed upcoming projects highlighting US 321 in Blowing Rock and US 29 Business in Reidsville scheduled for let in September, the Union Crossroad project in Winston Salem in December, and the I-77 and I-40 interchange project in Statesville in March. The House has proposed increasing the funds for bridges from $81 million to $159 million in 2012 and $91 million to $171 million in 2013. These funds are drawn from other areas, including maintenance construction, to emphasis bridge projects. The amount of bridge replacement projects on the current let list is $72 million. Mr. Gibson discussed the ramp up concerns in spending $330 million for bridges over a 2-year period. The language in the bill was changed from “bridge replacement” to “bridge improvement” to allow the Department to update the whole system. The Department is emphasizing the 750 bridges that are 20 feet or less in span length. Some of these bridges will be converted to pipes or culverts. Legislative and Congressional Update Susan Coward Ms. Coward predicted a low possibility of change in the proposed state transportation budget which focuses on bridges, maintenance, resurfacing, and an increase in privatization. She emphasized that if a gas tax cap was passed, the Department would have to budget as though the tax would not be allowed to expire. A gas tax cap could cause a decrease in spending of $1 billion over the 10-year forecast. Ms. Coward highlighted that the Federal Highway Trust Fund is over 20% of the Department’s revenue. If Congress aligns the fund with actual receipts, it would negatively impact the Department’s budget. A long term bill is not anticipated before 2012. Ms. Coward noted successful progress of Senate Bill 750 which excludes bid responses from public domain until the bid is awarded. Ms. Coward reiterated that the Department is strongly opposed to the legislature legislating engineering. In the session, the Department opposed two bills. One bill legislated median placement, and the other mandated formula changes for the lifecycle cost calculations comparing concrete and asphalt. She stated that the Department’s message is to leave the engineering to the private and public engineers. Review of SOQ and RFP Submittals Michael Manning Mr. Manning asked that the Department provide guidance for public information requests. Mr. Barbour said there will be a structured process to request information. The Department will provide information that is publically available upon request. Mr. Barbour noted that if a Design Build team declines the stipend for the technical proposal, the Department returns that technical proposal to the Design-Build team and therefore, it may not be available from the Department.
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DBE Program Modifications Victor Barbour Mr. Barbour reported on the results of a focus group which met to discuss possible improvements to the State’s DBE program. The group reported that modeling the state participation banking program in the DBE program could be an improvement. The group asked if excess DBE participation could be banked in the State MB/WB programs. Several issues would need to be resolved before either idea is feasible. The focus group identified that being held to a committed goal above the Department’s established DBE goal for the project discourages reporting of participation in excess of the original DBE goal. The DBE provision is being modified to eliminate this issue. The focus group expressed concern regarding the time needed to complete replacement procedures in cases of safety issues. The current procedures allow exceptions in the replacement procedures for safety issues. Mr. Barbour noted that the Directory of Transportation Firms has been updated to improve the search function. He asked that users continue to supply feedback for improving the directory and the website. The focus group requested that the prime contractor be allowed to electronically send the required mailings to the DBE firms to avoid paper mailings. The Department plans to revise the DBE provision so excess participation is listed as race-neutral participation and the committed goal is the race-conscious participation used to fulfill the DBE goal. If there is participation above the committed DBE goal, and a replacement is authorized, the excess participation can be used to replace the committed DBE without having to submit a good faith effort. A comment was made regarding the difficulty in accurately reporting participation at bid for Design Build projects. Mr. Jenkins noted that the move towards an incentive-based program will encourage more participation. NC Turnpike Authority Update Steve DeWitt Mr. DeWitt invited members to participate in the November 20th 5k Turnpike Trot being held on the Triangle Parkway. The “invisible” toll technology is being installed off of Airport Boulevard. Tours of this technology may be available upon request. The Triangle Parkway project has had its bond rating reaffirmed; it is ahead of budget and on schedule. The ruling on the court case for the Monroe turnpike was positive. The project is preparing for the bond sale process. The financial plan is focusing on GARVEE bonds. The current letting date projection, if all goes well, could be as early as September. The Garden Parkway submittals are unopened and will remain sealed until Senate Bill 750 is decided. The Turnpike Authority will reaffirm submittals before bids are opened. Interest rates are an issue for financing this project and could cause further delays.
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NCDOT Rail Program Update Paul Worley Mr. Worley provided an update on the rail program (see Attachment #2). He is currently reviewing the 25% designs with railroads. The 65% designs and final designs will be reviewed as available. The handout includes an ARRA monthly report sent to FHWA and the timeline for the stations and facilities. All firms have been selected for the final designs with the exception of the Morrisville Parkway. Mr. Barbour noted that the twelve month let list will show upcoming rail projects. The railway specialty work will require additional prequalification categories; however, the roadway construction portion of the railway projects will be available to contractors prequalified in roadway construction categories. Work Zone Supervisor Berry Jenkins Mr. Jenkins expressed concern regarding the July 1st deadline for training work zone supervisors. Mr. Gibson explained that work zone supervisor trainers are not required to be licensed engineers. Mr. Jenkins noted a potential change in scope for the on-site requirements of work zone supervisors and asked about the additional work zone supervision needed for the Department-defined “significant” projects. Mr. Hancock will clarify the Department’s expectations for work zone supervisors and “significant” projects. Next Meeting Date The next meeting is scheduled for September 21 at 10:00 a.m. at the NCDOT Transportation Building Board Room in Raleigh.
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35
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250
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