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Page 1: School Facility Use by Outside Groups: Who Pays for It Roger Young Roger Young and Associates ryoung@ry-associates.com 978-886-6093

School Facility Use by Outside Groups: Who Pays for It

Roger YoungRoger Young and [email protected]

978-886-6093

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Bio …

• 37 Years Public Education• Assistant Superintendent Finance/Facilities• Planning Guide for Maintaining School Facilities• Facility Masters Award Program• Facility Masters Conferences• Facility Masters Webcast Series

• Improve Processes and Practices

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Agenda

• Concepts behind facility use and policies• The dilemmas and the impacts• Critical questions• Recent case• Newest cost recovery study• Your bottom line

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Recent Survey: Financial Impacts Due to Energy

Source: AASA Fuel and Energy Snapshot Survey Results

July 2008

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Recent Survey: Little Relief

Source: AASA Fuel and Energy Snapshot Survey Results

July 2008

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What Will Those Who Took The AASA Survey Do To Offset the Impacts?

• Implementing energy conservation measures• Restructuring transportation programs such as bus

routing or cutting back on student and staff trips• Cutting supply and textbook purchases• Hiring freezes or eliminating positions• Eliminating or modifying athletic events and offerings

NO OPTION IN THE SURVEY MENTIONED COST RECOVERY INITIATIVES RELATED TO COMMUNITY EVENTS!

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Who’s using your Facilities?

• Religious Groups• Athletic Teams• Civic Groups

• Adult Education • Business Groups

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Dealing with the Demand

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Facility Usage PoliciesAccording to SchoolDude’s national survey on facility usage:

• Historically the second most underutilized facilities next to churches, educational institutions and their grounds are being used more and more for after-hour activities.

• This rise in after-hour usage presents unique challenges to the business office and support departments including impacts upon:

• budgets• who to charge vs. no-

charge• justifying rental rates• balance between rights of

renters and rights of

facilities• liability or risk

containment• coordination of support

services• and more…

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Approximately 98% of DistrictsLose Money on Community Use

Reasons, barriers or excuses:• Misguided policies driven by political pressures

such as fear of the public• No understanding of the true costs• Failure to understand the financial impacts that

ripples through the district• No standardized central administrative system to

manage district policy• “We’re not a business”

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Who’s involved in the scheduling process?

• Community Use• Custodial• Maintenance• Technology and Audio

Visual• Food Services• Athletics• Multiple Site Contacts• Central/Business Office

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Problems often seen in the scheduling process

• Availability and Double Bookings• Financial Coordination

– The exact costs to host events (e.g., energy, staff, equipment)– Charge vs. no-charge vs. chargeback– How much is owed

• Coordination between sites and other contacts• Wasted Time (e.g., time on phones, paperwork and

spreadsheets)• Inconsistent notifications of schedule statuses and “to-

do” lists• Lack of reporting and trending

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Other Critical Questions

• Who do you Charge? – How often do you review your fees?– Who tracks and collects fees?– Hourly rates, flat fees, combination of both?

• How many events each year?– Is it increasing or decreasing?– Types of groups using the facilities?

• What type of process do you use?– Paper/Triplicate Form routed for approval– Emails or phone calls– Fees are applied, tracked, collected

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Recent cost recovery story

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Recent cost recovery story• Knowing there would be questions, or even

protest, the board gave a presentation concerning the thought behind the new fees prior to allowing public comment

• A key argument of the presentation mentions that the board is entrusted with the care and upkeep of district facilities and the use of those facilities for non-school related purposes should not generate costs for the district

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Recent cost recovery storyThe presentation included• Survey results including satisfaction of the district's educational value• Rejection of the last budget• Effects due to budget cuts, particularly in the area of extracurricular

activities, classroom supplies and facility maintenance• Initiatives to save and generate funds including

– transportation restructuring that saved $150,000 – exploring the use of bio diesel for district vehicles– cancelling certain annual field trips

• Adequacy of spending levels of the district vs. state standards, including some reductions in state aid

• Results from a facility use policy comparison of nearby districts

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Recent Cost Recovery StoryPublished opinion:“While many are making the argument that the school district is robbing Peter to pay Paul, we believe it is fairer to charge those actually using the facilities more than to spread the increasing cost of facility use across the community through taxation. With teachers having to pay out-of-pocket for classroom supplies, schools not having enough money to purchase necessary books and the school district more heavily relying on the fundraising efforts, it is no longer feasible for groups not affiliated with the schools to use district facilities without paying enough. We do encourage the school district to be sensitive to community groups' needs and just recover the costs of facility use, not make a profit.”

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Cost Recovery policy quote

Source: Barbara Dunn, Facility Use Coordinator in the Business Office at Warrick Valley CSD in New York.

“Invoices for community users are generated to reimburse school districts for those expenses that can not be paid from

the annual budget.Examples of these expenses might be custodial overtime hours needed to setup and cleanup for events, auditorium manager

and lighting and sound crew necessary to safeguard the use of auditoriums, as well as utility fees that accompany requests

for air conditioning for these events.”

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2008 Cost Recovery Study• Analysis of 1,000+ school districts, colleges

and private schools, including interviews• Focused on how educational professionals

are coping with– Demand for community use of school facilities– Financial burdens on budgets and operating

staffs due to the growing use of school facilities by the community

– Sentiment that school facilities should be used more frequently because taxpayers and other stakeholders have invested billions in these assets

RECOVERING COSTS FOR THE COMMUNITY USE OF OUR SCHOOLS:

A White Paper Examining the Successful Implementation of Cost Recovery Programs in our Schools.

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Cost Study: Number of Events

• The sampling revealed that the average district holds 1.24 events per student per year – up from .16 events per student in 2002

• Districts less than 5,000 students average .93 events per students or 4,650 events in a year

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Cost Study: Recovering Funds

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Cost Recovery Analysis

• Let’s look at the a student size of 8000

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Cost Recovery Analysis

• Let’s look at the a student size of 8000

• Theoretically, we’ll say you get $15/student as an average so you are likely invoicing for $120,000/year

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Cost Recovery Analysis• Let’s look at the

a student size of 8000

• Theoretically, we’ll say you get $15/student as an average so you are likely invoicing for $120,000/year

• Not a bad start, but there is room for improvement

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Behind the scenes

• What is the average time spent per event by each staff member in minutes?– School Administrator

– District Coordinator

– School Finance– Energy Manager– Other?

5 Checking calendars to make sure area is available, getting approvals

5 Coordinating with staff to support event, approving, getting other approvals

10 Coordinating and creating invoices

5 Doing EMS Overrides per event

Example is using an 8,000 student district

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Behind the scenes• What is the average time spent per event by each staff member in

minutes?– School Administrator

– District Coordinator

– School Finance– Energy Manager– Other?

5 Checking calendars to make sure area is available, getting approvals

5 Coordinating with staff to support event, approving, getting other approvals

10 Coordinating and creating invoices

5 Doing EMS Overrides per event

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25 Total Minutes Per Event or .42 Total Hours Per Event = 3666.67 Total Hours Annually (events * hours)

At $25/hour, you have spent $91,666.67 out of the $120K you are

currently invoicing -- how much is considered as part of normal job

responsibilities?

Example is using an 8,000 student district

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Behind the scenes

• ANNUAL CUSTODIAL COST– Usually averages to 1 hour of custodial time over the year for

each event (setup, breakdown, clean up, lock/unlock and other services)

– This relates to around $25-$30 per hour (fully loaded costs, benefits, vacation, sick days, holiday and other imbedded costs)

Example is using an 8,000 student district

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Behind the scenes• ANNUAL CUSTODIAL COST

– Usually averages to 1 hour of custodial time over the year for each event (setup, breakdown, clean up, lock/unlock and other services)

– This relates to around $25-$30 per hour (fully loaded costs, benefits, vacation, sick days, holiday and other imbedded costs)

8000 student * 1.2 events per student = 8800 Total Events

Equivalent to 8800 Total Hours Per Event

At $25/hour, you have spent $220,000 whereas you are currently invoicing $120K -- how much of this is part of

normal job responsibilities vs. what can be charged?

Example is using an 8,000 student district

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Behind the scenes

• ANNUAL ENERGY COST ASSOCIATED WITH EVENTS– Cost for energy typically ranges from $120 to $300

per student– Most districts say community usage increases utility

cost 10% to 20%, if not more

Example is using an 8,000 student district

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Behind the scenes

• ANNUAL ENERGY COST ASSOCIATED WITH EVENTS– Cost for energy typically ranges from $120 to $300

per student– Most districts say community usage increases utility

cost 10% to 20%, if not more

8000 Students * $150 Energy Cost per Student = $1,200,000 in Total Energy Expenditures

At 10% of energy costs, you have spent $120,000 whereas you are currently

invoicing $120K

Example is using an 8,000 student district

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Behind the scenes

• WEAR/TEAR/REPAIR DUE TO EVENTS– AS&U states on average some districts spend up to

$500 per student for M&O on buildings every year (not including technology needs)

– We’ll use $250 as a median and say that 2% of M&O goes to wear and tear due to facility events

Example is using an 8,000 student district

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Behind the scenes

• WEAR/TEAR/REPAIR DUE TO EVENTS– AS&U states on average some districts spend up to

$500 per student for M&O on buildings every year (not including technology needs)

– We’ll use $250 as a median and say that 2% of M&O goes to wear and tear due to facility events

8000 Total Students * $250 M&O Cost per Student = $2,000,000 Wear & Tear Expenditures

At 2% of M&O costs going to events, you have spent $40,000 whereas you are

currently invoicing $120K

Example is using an 8,000 student district

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Let’s total the potential costs

– staff time (processing calendar updates, coordination, approvals and cost recovery)

– energy costs– custodial– M&O

Example is using an 8,000 student district

You invoiced for $120,000 for events

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Let’s total the potential costs

– staff time (processing calendar updates, coordination, approvals and cost recovery)

– energy costs– custodial– M&O

$91,667

$120,000$220,000

$40,000

Example is using an 8,000 student district

You invoiced for $120,000 for events

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Let’s total the potential costs

– staff time (processing calendar updates, coordination, approvals and cost recovery)

– energy costs– custodial– M&O

$91,667

$120,000$220,000

$40,000

TOTAL $471,667or($59/student)Example is using an 8,000 student district

You invoiced for $120,000 for events

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The Potential costs

• Let’s assume that some of this $471,667 is considered part of someone’s normal duties or are normal costs for the district --- even if we reduce by 2/3: you still need to recover $141,500 ($17.68/student) or you will lose $21,500 for that year

• Also:– Food Services were not included– IT and wear/tear on technology and audio-visual equipment

was not accounted– Security?

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Examples of recovery programsIn spite of

these school systems’ top-tier

results, all who were

interviewed shared that they did not believe they

were recovering all of their costs, but

are making progress

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The Transition

• Now we have some insight into cost impacts• We have seen that some groups are trending

well as time has passed• What are you going to do? Do what others

have done to improve their circumstances

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Steps to Success

1. Identify an Advocate2. Recognize that Leadership is Key 3. Start Small and Gain Buy-in 4. Build Support with Site Contacts5. Distribute Event Management 6. Establish Presence at the Event7. Recover Your Costs8. Develop Tiered Fee Structures9. Improve Invoice Management10. Automate Processes

Source: Recovering Costs for the Community Use of Our Schools© Copyright 2008 SchoolDude.com, Inc. All rights reserved.

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Identify an advocate

Goals:• Help decision making• Speed up process development• Ensure more viewpoints are gathered• Prevent holes in the policiesOther options:• Look at your neighbors• If beneficial vs. a political hindrance, form a

team with this advocate as the team leader

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Recognize that leadership is key

• All must agree to support a policy for:– Process changes– Fee structures– Invoicing philosophy – it is cost recovery, not profit– Goal setting

• You should typically involve:– School board– Superintendent– Facilities Department– Athletic Directors

– Principals– Business– Technology Department– Food Services

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Start Small and Gain Buy-in

• Begin with only certain types of rooms and/or certain schools

• Gain support and buy-in from school administrators and assistants

• Let those positively affected by the changes help sell the idea to the rest of the district

• If negativity arises, address the issue to determine if there is an issue or a simple resistance to change

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Build Support with Site Contacts

• Principals, Assistants, Athletic Directors• “See through Mary Jane’s eyes”

– What’s in it for them?– Translate your ideas, but simply --- don’t use 8 words when 5 will do– A document they can review afterwards greatly helps

• Present and discuss with individual sites at first to have a better chance to “sell” your ideas to remaining campuses

• Give earnest consideration and heartfelt acknowledgement to complaints

• Deal with objections before they become roadblocks

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Distribute Event Management

• Find a balance between what can be centralized and what can be distributed

• School personnel control and decide:– What areas and times are available for usage– What groups can use the facility– Schedule conflicts

• A central office controls and decides:– Rates– Billing and collections– Risk management policies

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Establish a Presence at the Event

• Custodial labor can be a huge amount of cost for overtime and weekends

• Having a custodian on-site during events– Reduces damage to property and equipment– Protects the district– Ensures a smooth event– Provides a nice “customer service” touch

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Recover Your Costs!

• Overtime• Utilities• Athletic, audio-visual and

IT equipment• Wear and tear on the

facility

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Develop Tiered Fee Structures

Establish a simple fee structure:–What type of

group? (Non-profit vs. For-profit?)

–What type of area? (Gym vs. softball field?)

–What type of facility? (Elementary school vs. arts center?)

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Improve Invoice Management

BE CONSISTENT!1. Provide a quote to set proper expectations2. Follow up with an invoice that is consistent

with the quote3. Create billing rates for efficiency, accuracy

and to grow income4. Be pleasantly persistent with past-due

notices

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Automate Processes

• Paper, spreadsheets, calendars and email are not efficient in 90+% of educational facilities

• Too many parties and processes are involved for communication, task assignments and cost recovery

• You need to avoid duplication of efforts as well as events and seal gaps in the processes

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Policies and Fee Structures

• Are there loopholes?• Can group use your facilities at a rate cheaper

than permissible?• Do you require advance payments in full?

Before or after the event?• You may not want to compete against privately

owned facilities & their commercial rates• Find out what other institutions are doing

around you

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Identify Risks

All persons or groups using your facility pose some risks for your

institution• Protect yourself from liability concerning

personal injury and property damage• Institutions have been held liable even if

community group uses the facilities in an abnormal or inappropriate way

• Insurance requirements are critical• Have risk assessment contact(s) monitor

issues and identify solutions to minimize those risks

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Working with OrganizationsLet the organization know about rules upfront

Certain information may affect a group’s decision & save time or headaches for your staff concerning topics such as:

• How far in advance to schedule• Date changes• Charges & payment rules• Late fees• Damage policy• Alcohol policy• Insurance requirements• Supervision of children• Etc.

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End the debates

• “Politics, politics, politics” --- the public pays taxes and believe they have access to the buildings

• Many, including some government officials, realize this approach is doing more harm than good

• Under CA’s “Civic Center Act”, districts must make their schools available to the public, but must recover costs for use of those buildings

• Taxes are tough on the public, but budget cuts and increases in energy costs are tough on you

• Your mission is to educate our youth during the school day and your budgets and funding reflects this --- how much of your budget and funding is dedicated toward community use?

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For More Information

• www.schooldude.com/costrecoverySample fee structures, policies, contracts

• Contact Pat Buchanan– [email protected] Hair– [email protected]

• David Kornegay – [email protected]

877-868-3833