searchlove london 2015 | daniel gilbert | ppc and seo: better together
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Better Together PPC and SEO
Daniel Gilbert
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Hi, I’m Dan Gilbert
• 35 Super-geeks • $200M Ad Spend • “Best PPC Agency in the world”*
*According to a Survey of me
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What do SE(h)Os do?
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Selling Number 1 on the Google
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What do they want?
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• Practical tips on how to be better at SEO
• Links • More Monies
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• Mysterious • Wears a black hat
SEO PPC • Faster than a speeding bullet • Able to leap tall SERPs in a single bound • Laser focused
How could we ever work together?
•Handsome, outgoing, humble
•Lives in dark cave, misogynistic alcoholic
• Enemy called The Penguin
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PPC Supports SEO
Image credit: fishnbacon.tumblr.com
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We can help you with copy
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How is Quality Score calculated?
prCTR Other shtuff
Brainlabs - Quality Score*
*Source – my own eyes
CTR vs QS
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We needed to get good at copy testing
http://www.wordstream.com/blog/ws/2013/07/16/quality-score-cost-per-conversion
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We Can Test Your SEO Copy
Test different title tags in the headlines.
Test meta descriptions in the ad body
See which sitelinks get clicks
Test headlines & images on GDN
Or just share results from previous experiments
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Ideas for testing
Pricing Discounts Locations Shipping Range
Exclusivity Quality Calls-To-Action Display URLs Time sensitivity
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Impact of ad testing
Brad Geddes (@bgtheory) has some interesting examples as follows:
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Construction of an ad
This is what I think an ad should look like: If you think you can’t be creative with 25 character Headlines, check out Marty Weintraub’s SMX slides
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How to set up an ad test
1. Keyword testing = SKAGs 2. Concept testing = campaign/account wide
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Keyword testing – 1 kw/AG
Ad Group 1: Nike Shoes
“Buy Nike Shoes” CTR = 10% [nike shoes]
Ad Group 2: Pink Nike Shoes
“Buy Pink Nike Shoes” CTR = 25%
[pink nike shoes]
1 Ad Group: Nike Shoes
“Buy Nike Shoes” CTR = 10%
“Buy Pink Nike
Shoes” CTR = 0.5%
[nike shoes]
[pink nike shoes]
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Concept Testing: Tools
1. Adalysis 2. Optmyzr 3. Native AdWords tools
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SEO Supports PPC
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Studies show that having organic listings and PPC ads on the same results page gives you more clicks than if you just had the organic.
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SEO Supports PPC
Source: Impact of Organic Rank on Ad Click Incrementality, Google 2012
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Link your AdWords account to your Webmaster Tools/Search Console.
Then Google will tell you the clicks, impressions/queries and position of your organic listings and paid ads – when they appeared separately and when they were together.
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Paid & Organic Report
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Blended Brainlabs clients (non brand terms only) :
But we can’t connect this to conversions
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Paid & Organic Report
Ad CTR Organic CTR Overall CTR
Ad only 2.82% - 2.82%
Both shown 4.76% 4.10% 8.86%
Organic only - 3.63% 3.63%
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SEO Supports PPC
CTR and conversion rate are higher when there’s an organic listing.
We analysed data for our clients from AdWords and SEMrush...
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SEO Supports PPC
There’s much less difference in conversion rate, but CTR is still more than double
Is that just because you rank best for the most relevant terms?
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Correlation or Causation?
“GREAT BUT IS IT CAUSAL YA PPC PUNK?”
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Let’s look at some data
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Bubbles!
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What does the data show?
Not sharing the R² - too dangerous to look at averages
Only a selection of the clients where we did see a pattern
Normalised for chaning PPC positions, seasonality and competitors
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What does the data show?
• No meaningful impact on CR • No meaningful impact in lower positions
• Measurable increase in CTR for higher positions • Measurable decrease in CTR for reverse trend
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We have a hero
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Conclusions
SEOs can learn from PPC copy experts
Presence in organic effect on CTR
SEO people should get some of our budget
Next: Quantify the precise improvement for your business/clients... And get yourselves some ad $$$
Next: what does this look like on Mobile?
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Open-source code
Here’s all the code you need for SEMrush API
http://www.brainlabsdigital.com/blog/
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More Open-source madness! Try labelling your PPC keywords with your and your competitors’ positions!