Romans 1:22-23 “Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the

uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts,

and creeping things.”

Session 2 - The Christian God or the Mormon gods?

In this session we will look at the biggest difference between the Christian, and Mormon faith

The Doctrine of God

In this session we will look at many quotes from Mormon authorities, in addition to many Bible verses

When talking with a Mormon missionary or friend, this should always be the first point of discussion

Don’t go off on racism, polygamy, and other politically (and Biblically) incorrect teachings of the Mormon

church, start with the foundation, who is God?

Get them to admit that God cannot change his mind, that God’s word is eternally true, and that if the oldest revelation that we have (the Bible) says something is true, no new revelation can contradict it and still be

from God

A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away…

(On a planet named Kolob)

There was a council to decide how everything on earth would play out

One group of people wanted the “Jesus plan”, where Jesus would come and redeem us all. However others (Lucifer) wanted to be the redeemer

and was not a fan of the “Jesus plan”

After all was said and done, Jehovah God decided to go along with the “Jesus plan” and Satan left heaven

because he didn’t agree with it.

Where does Polygamy come in? Well, God lives on a distant planet named Kolob, and he has physical

relations with all his wives, and they produce spirit babies that then need bodies here on earth.

Some of the spirits sided with the “Jesus plan” and some sided with Lucifer, and some remained neutral

and would not take a side.

"The Father is a glorified, perfected, resurrected, exalted man who worked out his salvation by

obedience to the same laws he has given to us so that we may do the same," (Bruce R. McConkie, A New

Witness for the Articles of Faith, Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Company, 1985, p. 64).

Is God an exalted man made of flesh and bone?

According to Doctrine and Covenants 130:22, "The Father has a body of flesh and bones as

tangible as man's."

What verses do Mormon’s claim as evidence?

Genesis 1:27-28: “So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. Then God blessed

them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the

fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”

Is this talking about he body of Adam and Eve? Or just their spirits?

In order to understand this passage you have to interpret scripture in light of other scripture

Mormons claim God is described in ways that only make sense if he has a physical body

God speaking (e.g. Genesis 1:3)God seeing (Genesis 1:4)

God walking (Genesis 3:8)He sets His face against evil (Leviticus 20:6)

"I stretch out my hand against Egypt.“ (Exodus 7:5)

"you scattered your enemies with your mighty arm" (Psalm 89:10b)

Mormon’s claim they are the ones taking the Bible literally, not Christians.

Psalm 91:4: “He shall cover you with His feathers, And under His wings you shall take refuge; His truth shall

be your shield and buckler.”

If that’s the definition of literal, than we don’t want to take the Bible literal, we want to take it serious.

John 10:9: “I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.”

We understand the Bible uses figures of speech in areas to help us understand a point

that is being made

Is God a chicken?

Numbers 23:19: “God is not a man, that He should lie, Nor a son of man, that He should repent. Has He said,

and will He not do? Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good?

What does the Bible say?

“But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit. And he said unto them, why are ye troubled? And why do thoughts arise in

your hearts? Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh

and bones, as ye see me have.” - Luke 24:37

“Even from everlasting to everlasting thou art God” - Psalms 90:2B

The Bible says God has always been God

“God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.” - John 4:24

“And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not

revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.” - Matthew 16:17

“Your throne is established from of old; You are from everlasting.” – Psalms 93:2

"If there were a point where a man in his progression could not proceed any further, the very idea would throw a gloom over every intelligent and reflecting

mind. God himself is increasing in knowledge, power and dominion, and will do so, worlds without end. It is just so with us." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p. 120).

Psalm 147:5: “Great is our Lord, and mighty in power; His understanding is infinite.”

Wilford Woodruff, the fourth President, said God was increasing in knowledge.

"This Holy Man, the Father of us all, who reigns supreme and is a saved being , ordained and

established a plan of salvation so that his Firstborn and all his spirit children might advance and progress, become like him, have all power, know all things, live

in the family unit, having eternal increase of their own or in other words, that they might gain for themselves immortality and eternal life," (A New Witness, p. 704).

Is Jesus a man working his way to Godhood?

According to the Mormon Church Jesus has not always been God, and is working his way up to

becoming God. The Bible says otherwise

John 1:1-2 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.2 He was

in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that

was made.”

Colossians 1:16-17 “For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and

invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created

through Him and for Him. And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist.”

The Bible clearly teaches Jesus is and was God

Joseph Smith: "Hence, the doctrine of a plurality of Gods is as prominent in the Bible as any other

doctrine. It is all over the face of the Bible . . . Paul says there are Gods many and Lords many . . . but to us there is but one God--that is pertaining to us; and

he is in all and through all (History of the Church, vol. 6, p. 474).

How many God’s are there?

1 Corinthians 8:5: ”For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as there are

many gods and many lords),”

What Bible verse says this?

Paul is teaching us that there are not many gods. Rather, he is teaching us that there are many that are "called" gods but are not really gods. We can see this

elsewhere when Paul says in Gal. 4:8, "Formerly, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those who

by nature are not gods." We can see that the Bible teaches that there is only one God, yet people believe

in other gods.

On the contrary, there are MANY verses in the Bible that say there is only one God

“I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not

known me:” - Isaiah 45:5

“Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.”

- Isaiah 45:22

“To whom will ye liken me, and make me equal, and compare me, that we may be like?” - Isaiah 46:5

“Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none

like me,” - Isaiah 46:9

“Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am

the last; and beside me there is no God” - Isaiah 44:6

“And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom

You have sent.” - John 17:3

“To you it was shown, that you might know that the LORD Himself is God; there is none other besides

Him.” - Deuteronomy 4:35

This is not a issue the Bible is silent on, the witness of scripture is clear

"I have always declared God to be a distinct personage, Jesus Christ a separate and distinct

personage from God the Father, and the Holy Ghost was a distinct personage and a Spirit: and these three constitute three distinct personages and three Gods,"

(Teachings of Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 370).

The Mormon Trinity vs. The Christian Trinity

The Mormon idea of the trinity is three Gods among many other Gods

The Biblical view of the trinity is one being God eternally existing in three persons

"Man and God are of the same race, and it is within the power of righteous man to become like his Father,

that is to become a holy Man, a Man of Holiness," (Mormon Doctrine, p. 465-466).

Can man become God?

"God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted Man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens...I say, if you were to see him to-day, you would see him like a man in form -- like yourselves, in all the person,

image, and very form as a man...

…it is necessary that we should understand the character and being of God, and how he came to be

so; for I am going to tell you how God came to be God. We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity, I will refute that idea, and will

take away and do away the veil, so that you may see....and that he was once a man like us; yea, that

God himself the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth the same as Jesus Christ himself did." (Journal of

Discourses, vol. 6, p. 3).

According to the Mormon Church, we can all become God’s by obeying Mormon laws

Is the doctrine of man becoming God found in the Bible? It is actually found one place

Genesis 3:5… “For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye

shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.”

The same lie that brought sin into the world is the same lie that will send millions of Mormons to hell…“Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there

was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.” - Isaiah 43:10

The way you view God is the basis for every religion around the world

Even if everything else that they say sounds the same as Christianity, if you have a different God, then you

have a different religion and belief system.

Memory Verse: “Even from everlasting to everlasting thou art God” -

Psalms 90:2B