LifeTimesLinkSharing Salford’s fantastic story

Issue No 22 November 2007 - May 2008 FREE

Useful contacts Phone

John Sculley, museums and heritage

services manager 0161 778 0816

Heather McAlpine, lifetimes officer 0161 778 0885

Caroline Mean , heritage development officer

0161 778 0817Ann Monaghan, outreach officer

0161 778 0881Peter Ogilvie,

collections manager 0161 778 0825Sarah Hughes,

acting exhibitions officer 0161 778 0819

Dave Robinson, acting exhibitions officer

0161 778 0829Ceri Horrocks, learning officer 0161 778 0820

Luisa Guccione, learning support assistant

0161 778 0821Bev Davies,

Embrace Project officer 0161 778 0837Tim Ashworth,

librarian, Local History Library

0161 778 0814

Salford Museum & Art Gallery

0161 778 0800Ordsall Hall Museum

0161 872 0251

Useful contacts Websites

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Basic large print versions of this magazine are available - ring 0161 778 0885This magazine, and all of our back issues can be read or downloaded from www.salford.gov.uk/lifetimes-links

www.salford.gov.uk/museums - for all museum related topicswww.salford.gov.uk/whatson - find out about concerts, walks,

talks and other events in Salfordwww.wcml.org.uk

- website for the Working Class Movement Library

www.canalarchive.org.uk - all about Trafford Park,

the Bridgewater Canal and Manchester Ship Canal

Ordsall Hall Since our last issue, the Heritage Lottery Fund (HLF) National Panel, has met and agreed its support for the Ordsall Hall development earmarking a £4.3m contribution to the £6m+ project.

HLF support allows plans to progress to stage 2. Architectural and operational details are now being finalised with conservation and other project specialists. The programme remains on schedule with works anticipated to begin in 2008 and completion in 2011.

Conserving 800 years of history, while at the same time making the property fit for 21st century purposes, is an expensive business. Even with the generous support of Salford City Council and the HLF we still need to raise £1,000,000. If you would like to support the appeal by making a donation, you can contact the hall direct, or donate online by visiting the Extraordinary Ordsall Campaign at: www.salford.gov.uk/ordsallhall

A beautiful new centrepiece to Ordsall Hall’s archaeological gallery is a Saxon log boat. Conserved with financial support from the Museums, Libraries and Archives Council, this River Irwell treasure is now on display alongside other archaeological finds, including animal bones and pottery from the hall’s 2007 dig.

Salford Museum & Art Gallery Salford’s ambitions for its unique heritage has also included a long-term vision for the Museum and Art Gallery, as a national centre for the appreciation, study and advancement of industrial social history, 1750-2050.

These plans, informed by a series of consultations across the city in 2006, have been developed by world class museum designers, Metaphor. They have proposed a redevelopment of Salford Museum that will guarantee the future of the museum, and Salford’s position as a microcosm of industrial history, for the next 150 years. Metaphor have worked on major national

and international works including the British Museum’s reading rooms for China’s Terracotta Army exhibition.

Events and Exhibitions Don’t miss ‘Hidden Treasures’ – an exhibition of art and design gems from Salford Museums’ collection. The National Purchase Grant Fund was established by the government in 1881 to assist local museums develop their collections. Operated by the Victoria and Albert Museum, Salford celebrates over 125 years of financial support with a display of acquisitions including Chippendale furniture, Delftware, Ming pottery, Jacob Epstein sculpture as well as paintings by Geoffrey Key, Vanessa Bell and Duncan Grant.

Other exhibition highlights include David Dunnico’s photographic exhibition ‘Memento Mori’. The show examines the romantic Victorian vision of loss and grief and coincides with the 150th anniversary of the opening of Weaste Cemetery. As well as David’s photographs and a display on the history and significance of Weaste Cemetery, the show will also feature mourning costume and funerary artefacts from our collections.

Salford Local History Fair, Sunday 18 November 2007. Salford Museum and Art Gallery’s annual local history celebration sees 30 organisations and societies set their stall to explore heritage and delight visitors. From vintage buses, to Victorian games, swing boats to bookstalls this is a Museum Family Sunday not to be missed.

Christmas! For full listings of Salford Museum’s events and activities, including the festive season, pick up ‘Here and Now’ – available from museums, libraries and the Salford Tourist Information Centre or visit www.salford.gov.uk/museums. You can also follow the links to the sixth most popular webcam in the entire world, Ordsall Hall’s ‘Ghostcam’.

John SculleyMuseums and heritage services manager

Welcome to LifeTimes Link 22. Once again our thanks go to all Friends, contributors and readers who continue to ensure lively interest and debate in the city’s history and its unique stories.

Local history & family fun daySunday 18 November 11.00 am – 4.00 pm Salford Museum & Art Gallery Free admission

Now in its sixth year this event offers a great day out for everyone. Around 30 visiting organisations and societies (some new this year!) will be attending, plus other attractions throughout the day. If you missed the chance to ride on one of Salford’s vintage buses why not step on board this year and take a trip from Salford Museum & Art Gallery to the Transport Museum in Manchester.

The last working clog-maker in the Northwest will be demonstrating throughout the day. There will be children’s craft activities in the afternoon 1.00-3.00 pm and a strolling performer to keep the whole family entertained.

Salford Local History Library will be open on the day and staff will be happy to help with your local and family history enquiries. Refreshments will be served in the museum’s Lark Hill Tea Room. We hope you can join us and look forward to another great day!

FREE bus rides and FREE ADMISSION to Transport MuseumFREE parking across the road on Irwell Street

For more information contact Salford Museum & Art Gallery on 0161 778 0800

ContributionsPlease send your letters, articles and photographs to:The Editor: LifeTimes Link, Salford Museum and Art Gallery, Peel Park, Crescent, Salford, M5 4WUTel: 0161 778 0885 Email: heather.mcalpine@salford.gov.ukThe deadline for Issue No 23 (May to November 2008 is 7 March 2008. Please note: we cannot accept any responsibility for the loss or damage to contributor’s material in the post. We cannot guarantee publication of your material and we reserve the right to edit any contributions we do use.

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Editorial 2Useful contacts 2Contributions 3Local history & family fun day 3

Collections corner 4Why Teapot Hall? 5

Take a spoonful 6-73 times daily

Discover the Working 8 Class Movement LibraryTracing family histories at Salford Boys Club 9 Meet Jean Claude 10

Link Listings 11-12Heritage Walks 12Summer at the sites 13Learning on loan 13Music appeal 13

The Munich Air Crash 14 Footballers in 15 the family

You Write 16-20including The Hip, 17Shopping, 18-19Lark Hill Place and 20Friends of Roe Green 20

Mystery Pix 20-21

Salford Scouting 22

Local History 23Round Up Venue map & opening details 24

Cover photo: Father Christmas at Thorn Court 1960s (Fireman Wilf Brown as Santa).

Join the Friends of Salford MuseumsThe Friends remain at the heart of support for Salford Museums including Ordsall Hall. The Friends are always keen to welcome new members. For further information on joining The Friends of Salford Museums Association, ask at Salford Museum and Art Gallery or telephone, 0161 778 0800.

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Quintessential Quilters, of Eccles. donated a quilt that their members had made in 2000 to celebrate the Millennium. This ‘signature’ quilt was made in memory of one of their members and people were invited to sign it in exchange for a donation. The quilt was shown at a Millennium event at Buile Hill and also later at Eccles. It was signed by quilt club members, members of the public who attended the event and the Mayor and Mayoress of Salford.

An iron gate from Irlam Hall (which can be seen to the right in the photograph of the hall) along with other items relating to Irlam has been passed to the museum from Irlam Library. Irlam Hall was demolished in 1952 having stood for over 500 years. Its last owner was George Thomas who left the estate to Irlam Council in 1927. Accompanying this donation was a watercolour painting of Fiddlers Lane/Liverpool Road, Higher Irlam in 1900 by Gordon Bate.

On the theme of the current ‘Shop ‘till you drop!’ exhibition in the LifeTimes Gallery, Roy Bullock recently donated a plastic carrier bag from Lieberman’s of Salford, a shop that was on Regent Road until it closed down in the late 1970s.

A Salford Education Committee permit for the delivery of newspapers has been donated by William Carr to whom it was issued in 1955. He delivered morning and evening papers for Sam Cropper of Woden Street, off Ordsall Lane, and was paid fifteen shillings a week.

The museum recently received an interesting collection of glass drinks bottles from Sue Richardson. These include Codd bottles, Hamilton bottles and spirit flasks, all marked with the names of various drinking establishments or makers in the Salford area.

At the time of the Silver Jubilee of George V in 1935 handkerchiefs were given to school children locally to commemorate the event. Miss Crookell has donated two of these - one for Worsley and one for Swinton and Pendlebury.

Other donations include a collection of nineteenth century lithographic prints depicting scenes of old Salford and Manchester, donated by Mrs. M. Skelton, and a booklet entitled ‘A little Te Deum of the commonplace’ by John Oxenham. The latter was donated by Mr. and Mrs. C. Andrew and was given to Mr. Andrew’s aunt on leaving Trafford Road School, Ordsall in 1931.

Collections CornerThe past few months have seen some interesting and unique donations to Salford Museum from different areas of the city.

If readers have any comments or further information on any of the above objects please write to LifeTimes Link - details on page 3.

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I lived at Oakwood Cottage, in the grounds of Teapot Hall, from 1940 until 1961. In those days it was the Nurses’ Home for Salford Royal Hospital. My mother was the cook in the Nurses’ Home and my father looked after the grounds, boilers etc. Oakwood Cottage was originally the coach house for Teapot Hall and there were still signs on one outside wall of the wide doors to allow coach access.

Salford Royal’s Nurses’ Home was also known as ‘Oakwood’ and very occasionally ‘Pilkington Nurses’ Home’ but what intrigued me was, why ‘Teapot Hall’?

Tradition had it that the nickname came about because the builder of the house was involved in the tea trade.

I knew that there was an 1859 date stone immediately to the right of the main entrance, so I decided to investigate further.

I discovered that in 1861 the house was known as ‘Hillside House’. This is not really surprising as it occupies a commanding site which would have appeared more so before it became surrounded by 19th and 20th century housing. The head of the household was a Thomas Binyon whose occupation is given as ‘tea merchant’. One neighbour was Edward Heywood, a member of the Manchester banking family, who lived at Light Oaks House. The occupations of other near neighbours in Swinton Park are variously given as ‘banker’, ‘magistrate’ and ‘East India merchant’.

Hillside House was a prosperous household. Thomas Binyon was born in 1795 and came from a Quaker family. He married three times and in 1861 was living at Hillside House with his third wife, Martha Ann, née Spraggs, and their family. The household supported a governess, cook, nurse, housemaid and a scullery maid. In addition there was the coachman and his family living at the coach house, a ‘gentleman gardener’ and family living at Hillside House Lodge, and an agricultural labourer and his wife living at Hillside Gardening Lodge.

The Binyon era did not last very long as Thomas Binyon died on the 18 May 1865 and the house passed into the possession of a Radcliffe family who apparently were in the textile trade and owned a mill in Oldham.

During their tenure the name of the house changed to ‘Oakwood’, the name by which it is still known today.

So the folklore surrounding the name ‘Teapot Hall’ has proved to be correct, but two new questions have arisen. Was Radcliffe Park Road named after this Radcliffe family and did it come into being during their occupation of Teapot Hall? And where was Hillside House Lodge situated? Maybe around the junction of what is now Swinton Park Road, Radcliffe Park Road and Park Lane?

So far I have done my research via the Internet but I suspect that the answers to these questions will have to wait until my next infrequent visit to the Local History Library at Peel Park.

Stan AndrewsWinchester, Hampshire.

Why Teapot Hall?Seeing the information about the Heritage Walk ‘Halls and Houses of the Height’ in Link Issue 21, triggered some long dormant thoughts about Teapot Hall in Radcliffe Park Road for Stan Andrews

Ed: Can any readers help in answering Stan’s questions? If you can or if you would like to share your own research with us or another contributor then please do get in touch - details on page 3.

Teapot Hall, Radcliffe Park Road, Irlams o’th’ Height

I can see myself now, lying on the sofa, propped up with pillows and a rug over me, a huge coal fire would be burning in the grate thus helping my temperature to rise even higher. A hot mustard plaster would be placed on my chest and one on my back and then a spoonful of the chemist’s own make of cough medicine, warmed by holding the spoon near the fire, would be poured down my throat.So as the household got on without me, nice and cosy under a travel rug, I would read my ‘Chick’s Own’ comic or look at pictures in the fire. No TV to watch, of course, but we all listened to the wireless as we called the radio then. I have a vague memory of Dr. Drysdale calling and listening to my chest. He would pat my head, telling my mum to keep me in bed for a week. A week! Nowadays you get an antibiotic from the doctor’s and are back at work or school in three days! And you weren’t given antibiotics as the fighting men and women of World War II needed them more than us!

Little girls wore gaiters in those days made of leather and wrapped round your legs and then buttoned from top to bottom (I have a button hook somewhere in the house from those days). We wore a warm coat, scarf and gloves which were stitched at the ends of a long piece of ribbon and tucked down the sleeves of your coat, so that when you put your coat on the gloves were dangling from each sleeve and you didn’t lose them on the way home. And we all wore a knitted ‘pixie’ hat. No-one left home without a hat because it seems we lose a tenth of our body heat out of our heads.

When I was about 12 I was dosed daily with a medicine known as ‘Parishes Food’ because it was full of iron and helped little girls from becoming anaemic. Young lads had boils on their necks, poor souls, which must have been very painful. You don’t hear of boils now, do you? Or abscesses or carbuncles! Even the names sound medieval.

Going to the doctor’s was interesting. The local doctors worked from home and had a waiting room for patients. Waiting was a nightmare as you had to keep looking round to see if anyone went into the surgery before their turn. You could sit waiting for quite some time , so nothing has changed there!

But if you were seriously ill, of course, the doctor came to visit you. No-one had a phone so I can’t recall how we asked for a visit, as I can’t remember any of our neighbours having a telephone. I shall have to think about that – maybe you can remember?

When my husband, Gordon, first came to Cadishead to carry out a contract at Lancashire Tar Distillers in Cadishead (now an eye-sore!) he had something wrong with his eye and was directed to Dr. Laing’s surgery in one of the large houses next to the timber yard in Cadishead. So, off he went, knocking at the front door and walking in on the doctor and his family having their tea! Apparently he should have gone round the back to the surgery’s waiting room.

Chemists’ shops were a delight, especially Mr. Pincham’s opposite Cadishead Park. It was very old-fashioned, all huge containers with Latin names in gold and beautiful mahogany shelves and counters. My favourite shop was, of course, Mrs. Bancroft’s sweet shop in a very old property at the corner of Moss Lane in Cadishead. When you entered the shop the first thing that hit you was the smell of chocolate. We even had a shop which sold DRUGS (not the stuff on prescription of course) in huge pots and bottles with their contents shown in gold. It fascinated me, looking so ancient and as a small child I had no idea what was actually sold. However, things have to change and Cadishead is a completely different place today, but I do hope I have jogged some memories in a pleasant manner.

“Take a spoonful three times daily”Ann Arnold remembers medicine, mustard plasters and medical matters in 1930s Cadishead

At the age of 75 I seem to spend most of my time at the doctor’s or else in the chemist’s shop collecting prescriptions to keep me going for a bit longer!

Aren’t we lucky today as regards medical treatment? It’s all very different from the days of my childhood here in Cadishead. In those days bad chests, sore throats or earaches weren’t thought important enough to see the doctor and your mum, or grandma or auntie would sort you out as regards a cure.

So, I shall now tell you what happened if you were a sick child in the 1930s. Starting with a cold – this could last up to three weeks as we didn’t have the penicillin then, although I think members of the armed forces were treated with it towards the end of WW2.

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main photo: Child Welfare Clinic, Langworthy Road, 1951 (baby Gillian Mallin)left: Lark Hill Place chemist shop, Salford Museum and Art Gallery

The Working Class Movement Library (WCML) is a unique treasure house of books, pamphlets, newspapers, objects and archival material. The collection reflects the rich history, experiences, struggles, aspirations and talents of the working people of this country. It shows the important part played by the trade union and labour movement in shaping modern society.

The library is open to everyone, and we are keen to ensure that as many people as possible know of it as a valuable resource on local history as well as labour history.

Edmund and Ruth Frow founded the library in their house in Old Trafford in the 1950s; both were active in the trade union movement. In 1987 the library moved to its present home at 51 The Crescent, Jubilee House, which was originally a district nurses’ home.

The emphasis of the collection is on British history and there is a great deal of material directly relating to the region, in tribute to the role played by Salford, Manchester and surrounding towns in the shaping of industrial society and the creation of the world’s first industrial working class.The earliest items date from the 1760s. The records of the various Brushmaker societies, deposited at the WCML by the GMB union, include some of the earliest trade union documents to have survived – dating from the 1820s. WCML now contains more than 30,000 books and 200,000 pamphlets plus archives, journals, cartoons, posters, photographs, banners and badges.

Our collection spans politics of all shades, social conditions, education and agriculture; also local histories, reports of trials, biographies and autobiographies, novels on social themes and working class plays, poetry and songs. WCML is rich in material on topics such as Chartism, the Peterloo Massacre and the 1926 General Strike.

Our holdings include the cultural alongside the political, such as material from all aspects of Salford songwriter and activist Ewan MacColl’s political and artistic life. We are also very pleased to house the archive of Jim Allen, the Manchester-born socialist writer who made a major contribution to British TV drama in the 1960s and 1970s and to British film in the 1980s and 1990s.

In this 75th anniversary year of the Mass Trespass over Kinder Scout, which paved the way for ‘right to roam’ legislation, it’s also worth highlighting that the library holds the Benny Rothman Archive, which includes fascinating material relating to the Mass Trespass as well as to other political and environmental campaigns in the region.

Our enquiry service is free of charge.Access to the library reading room is also free. Limited staff time means we are not able to undertake detailed research on behalf of family historians, but anybody can come along to research for themselves.

If you would like to visit you’ll be made very welcome. We’re open Tuesday to Friday, 10.00am to 5.00pm. Do please contact us (see details on left) in advance to make an appointment, however, as almost all the material will need to be fetched for you as it isn’t on public display. We are very happy to offer group tours to see the collection – again, please contact us to arrange a time.

Library manager Lynette Cawthra tells us more about a unique collection and archive

WCML is a registered charity, and we are always keen to receive donations - of volunteer time as well as money! Ring or email us if you’d like to find out more about volunteering.

Further details at www.wcml.org.uk

Contact us:by emailenquiries@wcml.org.ukby phone0161 736 3601

Discover the Working Class Movement Library

The Working Class Movement Library

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Discover the Working Class Movement Library

The picture on the right, shows four lads waiting outside Salford Lads’ Club in 1904. In the background are the shops on Regent Road and the corner of Coronation Street. The lads are on Oxford Street, renamed St Ignatius Walk in 1987. We don’t know their names but they are part of the remarkable archive of over 15,000 membership records that are held at the club.

A recent Local Heritage Initiative project (funded by the Heritage Lottery Fund) supported by Salford Museums and Heritage Service and the Greater Manchester County Record Office has helped us to preserve these records and we would like to make more people aware of their importance.

Also on the right, is the record card of Frederick Ball who lived on Sussex Street and was born in 1897. Frederick was the grandfather of the present club secretary Brian Ball.

The card gives a remarkable amount of detail of the life of Frederick during his short association with the club. We are able to find out what classes he took part in at the club and if he went on the annual camp holiday. The record also details which school he attended, if he moved house, (as many people did) if he lived with both or just a single parent and if he attended church or mission. It also shows the job Frederick took up when he left school and records his death in World War One at the age of 21. Frederick’s name is also on the WW1 memorial in the club entrance hall.

The club is interested in helping people to trace their relatives who may have been members of Salford Lads’ Club. The oldest records we have are of men born around 1880 who became the first members of the club when it opened in August 1903.

Tracing family histories at Salford Lads ClubTo help to trace a relative we need the following details from you:

• Afullnameofthepersonyouwishtotraceandyour relationship to them.

• Adateofbirthor,ifyoudonothavetheexactdate,at least the year of birth.

• Astreetnamewherethefamilylived.

• Yourcontactdetails,eitheranemailorpostaladdress. Please contact us at: info@salfordladsclub.org.uk or by post: Salford Lads’ Club, St Ignatius Walk, Salford, M5 3RX

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Leslie Holmes, project manager of Salford Lads’ Club explains ....

How did you hear about volunteering and what interested you about it?

I have been volunteering now for 14 months. I had a friend who was volunteering who told me about it; I wanted to volunteer as I like helping people and wanted to get some experience in my current life.

What kind of things do you do when volunteering at the museum?

I have done many different things: I have assisted with exhibitions, hanging artwork, painting the galleries and conducting surveys with visitors. Now I am making handling boxes, called culture boxes, which involves collecting different things from the Congo. For example, I have included a large wooden spoon which we use when cooking a big family meal, and a shirt where the cloth is mixed with raffia. I am still looking for other things from the Congo to include.

What do you like about volunteering?

I like volunteering at Salford Museum because I meet many different people from different cultures and Salford Museum is the best place to practice and to improve my English.

How did you feel about being nominated for the Heart of Salford Volunteer Awards (Salford CVS)?

I was very delighted about it. It will still be in my memory for a long time. We had a lunch to celebrate at The Lowry, shared with other staff at Salford Museum and volunteers from other organisations.

When not volunteering, how do you keep yourself busy?

I am currently studying for a catering course at MANCAT College and continuing with ESOL classes. I have a big family with three children, so I spend a lot of time on giving my children a good education.

What work did you do in the Congo?

In the Congo I worked for a commercial company, a brewery. My job was visiting customers and collecting orders. I was going out meeting many different people. At the museum it is similar as many different people meet me and I meet people from all over.

top:Jean Claude and hat display; middle: Jean Claude and family; bottom: volunteer trip in August to Colwyn Bay Mountain Zoo

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Meet Jean ClaudeFind out more about the work of Embrace Project

volunteers at Salford Museum and Art Gallery

In Link Issue 20 we introduced you to one of our Embrace Project volunteers, Bajram Paskali. The project at Salford Museum & Art

Gallery has continued to attract new volunteers. Jean Claude is originally from The Democratic Republic of Congo and has lived

in England for almost 6 years.

For more information about the Embrace Project, our volunteer project and the outreach we do, please contact Bev Davies,

Embrace Project officer on 0161 778 0837 or email beverley.davies@salford.gov.uk

A full programme of events and exhibitions can be found in our twice yearly (approx January and July) publication Here & Now. Pick up a copy from our museums, any Salford library or download a pdf version from www.salford.gov.uk/museums

At Salford Museum & Art Gallery

Meet Jean Claude

LinkListingsa taste of forthcoming Heritage events

EXHIBITIONS

Shop ‘till you drop!Put your shopping bags down, relax and come and enjoy yourself instead – in our fascinating exhibition which explores how shopping habits have changed in Salford over the past 150 years.Until Spring 2008

Pilkington’s Pilkington’s Tile and Pottery Company Limited was established in 1891 and began production of tiles in 1893. By 1904 the company had developed a stunning and entirely fresh style of pottery using natural glaze effects. The company was one of the first to harness the newly discovered periodic table and so became famous as “scientific potters”. Salford Museum and Art Gallery has an excellent and representative collection of pottery and tiles and has recently placed the best of its pieces on exhibition.Ongoingexhibition

DreamsAn Exhibition by Verd di Gris art & design,‘Dreams’ is a cross-generational arts project that works with young and older people to explore aspects of identity, aspiration, ambition and fantasy – through discussion, reminiscence and participation.Monday 5 November 2007 to Sunday 3 February 2008

Hidden Treasures Objects purchased with assistance from the MLA/V&A Purchase Grant Fund.All objects, artworks and furniture within this exhibition were bought by Salford Museum & Art Gallery with the aid of the Purchase Grant Fund, which celebrated over 125 years of support for the arts in 2006. The exhibition shows off

SPECIAL EVENTS

Local History and Family Fun Day Step back in time and delve into Salford’s history! Over 30 visiting organisations representing Salford and Greater Manchester’s local history. There will be activities for all the family including children’s craft activities and vintage bus tours to Manchester’s Transport Museum.Sunday 18 November 11.00am - 4.00pmAdmission free

Carols at Christmas – welcoming back Monton Voices who will be singing a selection of Christmas music both traditional and modern. Performances at 1.30, 2.30, 3.30 pmAlso seasonal arts and crafts for children. 2.00- 4.00pmSunday 9 December

FREE Christmas Quiz – test those brain cells by completing our museum quiz and trail.Thursday 27 December during opening hours

Making Models – make a cut-out model of Lark Hill Place then compare it with the real thing! Friday 28 December 2.00 – 4.00pm £1.00 per child

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some of the best objects and artwork purchased through the grant scheme and includes sculpture from Jacob Epstein and Geoffrey Key, fine art paintings by Vanessa Bell and William Roberts and also examples of Chippendale furniture and pottery such as Delftware and Ming.Until 6 January 2008

Memento Mori An exhibition of photography by David Dunnico.Memento Mori is a Latin phrase which means ‘remember you must die’. This exhibition looks at how people remember those they have lost and the Victorian romantic vision of grief and mourning. The exhibition also features a display on the history and significance of Weaste Cemetery and will be complimented by a display of mourning costume and funerary artefacts from the Salford Museum collection. Until 13 January 2008

Re-Tracing SalfordFragments, memories and fleeting glimpses of our ever changing city are captured by three artists, Maria Murphy, Lawrence Cassidy and Tim Garner.Each artist has a connection to the area and presents a different characteristic of the region.Saturday 19 January to Sunday 20 April 2008

Heritage walks Exercise your body and mind and discover the hidden history of the city on our friendly and informal Heritage Walks. Details of other walks can be found at www.salford.gov.uk/heritagewalksWalks are £2.00 for adults, children free. Please wear appropriate shoes or boots. All distances given are approximate.Contact - Ann Monaghan on 0161 778 0881, during office hours.

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Salford Museum & Art Gallery

Peel Park, Crescent, Salford M5 4WU

Tel: 0161 778 0800Fax: 0161 745 9490

Email: salford.museum@

salford.gov.ukOpen: Mon-Fri 10.00am-

4.45pm and Sat-Sun 1.00-5.00pmFree parking, disabled access, gift shop, café

Salford Local History Library at Salford Museum

& Art Gallery:Open: Tues, Thurs and

Fri 10.00am-5.00pm and Weds 10.00am-8.00pmClosed weekends and

Mondays

Ordsall Hall Museum

Ordsall Lane, Salford M5 3AN

Tel: 0161 872 0251Fax: 0161 872 4951

Email:salford.museum@salford.gov.uk

Open: Mon-Fri 10.00am-4.00pm and Sunday

1.00-4.00pm Closed Saturday

Free parking, gift shop, limited disabled access

At Ordsall Hall Museum

EXHIBITIONS

Shiver me timbers! There’s pirates at play …Giant Tudor Galleon for younger visitors to enjoy. Fire the canons, hoist the sails, steer the ship from the captains deck and stash your bounty on board.Ongoingexhibition

History Revealed Archaeological finds from the Ordsall site, including brand new finds from digs that took place on the site in 2006. Salford’s rarest artefact, a Saxon log boat, discovered in the River Irwell also takes pride of place in the exhibition – recently conserved and preserved in a brand new conservation case.Ongoingexhibition

SPECIAL EVENTS

SEW GOOD!A unique opportunity to see and purchase beautiful handmade quilts and wall hangings, all made by members of Quintessential Quilters, a local patchwork and quilting group. Watch demonstrations and purchase Christmas gifts. Free kids activities too.All proceeds of sales to the ExtraordinaryCampaigntoraise£1 million for the hall.Sunday 25 November 10.00am – 4.00pm

A Christmas CelebrationWelcoming back Tapestry of Music who will provide an afternoon of festive Tudor music using traditional instruments. Clay painting also available from £1.00 per child.Sunday 2 December 1.00 – 4.00pm

Deck the HallsGet into the Christmas spirit and make Christmas decorations at the hall.Sunday 9 December 1.00 – 4.00pm

Christmas CraftsMake pomanders and Christmas cards to give to family and friendsSunday 16th December 1.00 – 4.00pm

Tudor GamesHave a go with toys Tudor children would have played with. Thursday 27 & Friday 28 December

Friday 28 December On the trail of Queen VictoriaIn 1851 Queen Victoria was a guest of the Earl of Ellesmere at Worsley New Hall and during her stay she went for a walk around Worsley. Work off your Christmas indulgence by following in the royal footsteps to the church, Aviary, Worsley Woods, Kempnough Hall and Worsley Old Hall. Stout shoes essential, crinolines optional!Walk leader Ann MonaghanMeet outside Worsley Village Library, Worsley Road, Worsley Starts10.15am•Approx3miles

Sunday 27 AprilOrdsall Hall and Salford Quays CircularFeaturing Ordsall Hall, the site of Haworths Mill, Pomona Docks, Salford Quays and Ordsall Park.Return to the hall for refreshments and a guided tour of this splendid Grade 1 listed building.Walk Leader Ann MonaghanMeet at Ordsall Hall, Ordsall Lane, Salford, M5 3ANStarts1.30pm•Approx3miles

Sunday 18 MayRoe Green AmbleA gentle stroll around Roe Green looking at the historic buildings and commemorative plaques of this most picturesque village.Walk Leader David GeorgeMeet at Beesley Green Community Centre, off Greenleach Lane, Worsley, M28 2QWStartsat1.30pm•Approx1mile

Heritage walks

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Ceri Horrocks, learning officer

The summer really started with the launch of our fantastic Tudor galleon at Ordsall Hall – affectionately known as ‘the pirate ship’. The ship recreates what it might have been like to be a sailor during the Elizabethan age of discovery, and children can get stuck into swabbing the decks, raising the sails, staffing the canons and getting dressed up like pirates. One of the great aspects of this exhibition has been seeing the way it sparks children’s imagination. It doesn’t take long before they are bartering with shells or setting up camp on their own desert island.

We have had lots of workshops around a pirate theme – making hooks and eye patches, treasure maps, seascape pictures and ships’ flags. Our programme of archery and pottery at the hall has, as ever, proved very popular and all of this has helped make it our busiest summer yet!

Our first ‘Teddy Bears’ Picnic’ saw over a hundred adults and children picnicking in the grounds on one of the rare sunny days this summer. All the bears had pirate hats and eye patches made for them by their owners and a series of competitions for the bears brought out their competitive side!

SMAG also saw its activities fully booked. Artist Isobel Pickup ran arts workshops each week inspired by a different painting from the Victorian Gallery. Children made their own costumes, puppets, ships in bottles and mobiles to help recreate the images. Continuing our celebrations for Lark Hill Place’s 50th anniversary, Del Bannister took sessions with a Victorian theme. Children were able to sample a Victorian classroom, try out domestic tasks and have a go at traditional Victorian crafts.

Both sites have had a great summer despite the weather and are now in the midst of school visits and preparation for the coming months. A selection Christmas themed activities can be found under special events on p11 and p12.

For further details please contact Ceri Horrocks or Luisa Guccione on0161 778 0820/0821

Luisa Guccione, learning support assistant

Hands on learning is key to what we do and as well as offering a full schools’ programme at both sites, we can also help teachers with their work in the classroom through our loan box service. Our boxes contain historical objects, both real and replica, that help pupils to better understand the topic they are studying.

We have many themes available and all are designed to support the teaching of the National Curriculum. Boxes can be borrowed for a maximum of two weeks and must be picked up from the museum.

What do teachers think?

“It was great for them to look at objects rather than just seeing them in books.”

“Children really enjoyed looking at the artefacts and being able to discuss them.”

“Excellent resource.”

The themes available include:• Victorian children• Victorian domestic life• Toys through time• World War Two• Air raid alert • The Tudors• At the seaside • Ancient Greeks• The Romans • Mystery objects

The service has grown in popularity over the past three years and now we recommend booking a term in advance to avoid disappointment. We welcome your feedback about our loan boxes and love to hear your stories about how you used the objects in your classroom.

Tobookoutaboxortofindoutmorecall 0161 778 0821.

Summer at the Sites

Calling all music fans, performers and pundits ….

Can you help Salford Museum & Art Gallery with a new music exhibition?

Manchester District Music Archive, in conjunction with Salford Museum & Art Gallery, is planning an exhibition in celebration of Salford’s musical heritage over the last 50 years (1950- present). We would like to hear from anyone who would be willing to share their memories and stories, from pub sing-alongs, going to gigs and memories of different venues, playing in bands, funky fashions and dodgy hair! We want to create a contemporary record of how Salfordians have created and continue to create and enjoy music.

We’d also like to hear from anyone who has artefacts they would be happy to loan to the museum for the exhibition.

If you think you can help please contact Heather McAlpine on 0161 778 0885or e-mail heather.mcalpine@salford.gov.uk

The Silks pop group

Learning on loan at Salford Heritage Services

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I was at home alone when the news came over the wireless. It was early evening when my mother returned from work. She was a bit of a drama queen, but when I broke the news to her I know that her response was one hundred percent from the heart. It’s fifty years ago now, but I will never forget the floods of tears running down her face. It was even more moving because she was completely motionless. There were no actress poses or facial expressions. All I witnessed were genuine tears. Born and bred in Salford she grew up in Greengate during the early part of the last century and I know that she was very proud of the Salford links to United.

Prior to that terrible disaster the team had won two straight league titles. On 5 February it had qualified for the semi-finals of the European Cup, drawing 3-3 with Red Star Belgrade. On the return home the aircraft stopped to refuel in Munich during a blizzard. The crash occurred on the third attempt at take-off. Twenty-three people were killed in the crash, including eight players: Geoff Bent, Roger Byrne, Eddie Colman, Duncan Edwards, Mark Jones, David Pegg,

Tommy Taylor and Liam Whelan. Geoff Bent and Eddie Colman were Salford lads.

Eddie Colman’s nickname was “Coly” and he had a certain understudy by the name of Norbert (“Nobby”) Stiles. When we see the modern player Thierry Henri (of whom I am a great admirer) leave his marker with an easy change of pace and motor forward with great control, some of the younger readers may not know that Coly was doing this about fifty years ago. Not surprisingly, he played for England.

Duncan Edwards fought for his life for fifteen days. He finally died at the age of 22 from heart failure, and his funeral took place in Worcestershire. He had the ability of all world class players; he could turn the game. When the match was under control he played at centre half, and when the team was not playing well instructions went out to “give it to Duncan” (this strategy was to be adopted again later with the late, great George Best). He also received England caps. Probably Wayne Rooney is the modern day version of Duncan - that is, a player who is strong and solid and who can shake off opposing defenders. When debating who was the greatest player ever to put on a United shirt, Duncan Edwards is well up there in the rankings.

One of the survivors, Bobby ‘Dazzler’ Charlton was my idol. A perfect gentleman off and on the pitch, his trick of positioning himself an extra yard away from the opposing defender and then swerving out of the way quickly when taking possession of the ball was studied and used by someone else who admires him – Ryan Giggs, another Salford lad.

Sir Matt Busby’s right hand man, Jimmy Murphy was not on the plane. He was a dapper, ex-army man and his discipline and management with an iron hand was to help the club through the tragedy and the team actually reached the F.A. Cup Final that year.

My father (Salford born and bred) served in the Eighth Army. So did Sir Matt Busby with Jimmy Murphy. After the disaster, the incredible courage, faith and leadership of Sir Matt was rewarded when he saw his dream fulfilled in 1968. United won the European Cup that year, ten years after the heartbreak of Munich.

Peter Bailey, Salford

The Munich Air CrashPeter Bailey looks back on a dreadful event in

football history and remembers some great United players of the 50s

Back row (left to right): Mr A. Holland, D. Kirk, J. Woodward, S. Fleet,

J. Lythgoe; middle row: A. Fenlon, B. Brownsey,

E. Colman, C. Reed, A. Wilson; front row: T. Nuttall, N. Barnes

When the Munich air crash occurred on 6 February 1958 I was ten years old. Previously my uncle

had taken me to see the Busby Babes and I still rememberhowthrilledIwasattheexperience.It

was a different kind of game then, but the wonderful skills of those players will always stay in my mind.

Ed: A tribute site can be found at www.munich58.co.uk. Eddie Colman is interred at Weaste Cemetery and features on the heritage trail there - see www.salford.gov.uk/cemeteryheritagetrail.htm.

Eddie Colman (centre) as captain of

Ordsall Secondary School Football

Team in 1952

I was so pleased to see the photograph of Norman Lambert (in Link 21) sitting on Kersal Moor and especially with St. Paul’s Church in the background as I was married there on 2 October 1943 (coming up to 64 years!).

I was born in Cook Street, Pendleton, Salford in 1917 and went to Halton Bank School. It was a good walk every day, over Cock Robin Bridge and up Dorney’s Hill, but it was worth it: it was a lovely school. I left at 14 and went to work in the office of R.A. Brand in Holland Street. Eventually I met my future husband, Les Hayes, there. He was called up in the first batch of militia in 1939 and eventually spent 6 and a half years in the army. Long before meeting him, we had moved to Lower Kersal. Our house was only about two minutes’ walk from where Agecroft Hall used to be. I can vaguely remember it when I was small, but I can remember somebody telling me that every brick was numbered as it was pulled down. I can’t remember anybody with a car in those days and we would walk a lot. Prestwich Clough and Kersal Moor were very popular.

Can you imagine a professional footballer waiting for a bus these days?

My father, Billy Lomas, was a professional footballer, and I can remember going with him when he was training, along the footpath on the River Irwell. I was only about 3 or 4 and I used to wait very patiently whilst he ran up and down. He was stationed in Scarborough during the 1914-18 war and if Manchester United or City were short of a player they would send for him. One week he played with Billy Meredith at United and the next week he played against him at City! It was called ‘guesting’.

My cousin’s son was very keen on football and from being three years of age he used to love coming to our house and Dad used to play football with him in the back garden. He was very keen and eventually became one of the Busby Babes, Eddie Colman. Unfortunately he was one of the players who lost his life at Munich. He was an only child and his parents never got over it.

After Dad retired he got together a team of youngsters from around Littleton Road and trained them; he was in his element.

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Footballers in the familyMarie Hayes shares memories of her footballing father

It occurred to me that perhaps Norman Lambert and his friends were part of one of the teams. I think they would just about be the right age.

Dad told Mum to get him very well insured. He said “Footballers don’t live very long.” He lived until he was 92! It was only a few years before that he gave up bowling at the Griffin Hotel on Lower Broughton Road.

Another well-known United footballer, Stan Pearson, was from the Littleton Road area. He used to be waiting for the bus I was travelling on to go to work. Can you imagine a professional footballer waiting for a bus these days?

Thanks for sending me LifeTimes Link – I love it!

Marie Hayes (née Lomas), Wirral

The Munich Air Crash

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You Write ...If you’d like to tell a story, ask ‘where are they now?’ or share your memories - send your letters in to: The Editor, LifeTimes Link, Salford Museum and Art Gallery, Peel Park, Crescent, Salford, M5 4WU. email: heather.mcalpine@salford.gov.uk Tel: 0161 778 0885 Due to space limitations we reserve the right to edit any letters that we do include.

Charley Rigby

I work in Eccles Library and regularly read LifeTimes Link. I pass it on to an elderly friend. He was thrilled to see an old friend in issue 21, Sammy the pony and scrap dealer. The scrap dealer was called Charley Rigby and my friend went to school with him. He was disappointed that Charley was not named and wonders whether he could have a little mention in the next issue?

Julie Rochford

Ed: Sorry we forgot to mention Charley – Sammy the pony stole the show! Thank you for getting in touch with this information Julie.

Gardners Brass Band 1930-1950- appeal for photos

My father, Joe Ashburner, played in Gardners Brass Band from 1930-1950, at Barton Hall, Peel Green, Patricroft. I wonder if any reader has photos of the band 1930-1950? I would be grateful for any information. Thank you.

Roy Ashburner, Manchester

Ed: If you have any photos or information for Roy please get in touch with us and we will be happy to pass on your details.

Old friends

I was born in 1920 at no 21 Pimlot Street. I started school at Primrose Hill and then went to St. James’. I left Pendleton and joined the RAF in 1938 and never returned, only to visit my family. I have often wondered if any of the friends I grew up with are still around though. We may not be able to remember what happened yesterday, but can nearly always remember what happened when we were children. I remember many of my friends’ names and here are just a few - Arthur Davies, Charley Gore, Mickey O’Shay, Ginger Brennen, Duck Adams, Robert Lomas, Wilf Ward, Mont Downey. I wonder if any of them remember me, Joe Guinney. If so I would really like to hear from them!

Joe Guinney, Fleetwood

If you would like to make contact with one of our Link contributors then please write to the editor and we will endeavour to put you in touch.

Independent Order of Rechabites

Regarding the ‘Salford Connection’ on page 20 of LifeTimes Link issue no 20, it was interesting to read about the Independent Order of Rechabites. My grandfather, Joseph David Parrott, who lived in Hampden Street, off Trafford Road, with my grandmother, Mary (he died in 1970) was a member of this order.

It is not very often, if ever, you hear or read anything about the I.O.R. so it was really good to see this short article – thank you.

Jean Dean, OldhamSalford people: salt of the earth

My father was born in Mary Street, Salford, my mother in Germany, Berlin. They met when my father was stationed in Berlin with the King’s Regiment.

In 1947 they were both in the Woolpack Pub on Broad Street. They had nowhere to stay and very little money. A couple they met in the pub, hearing their plight, offered them a bed in their home. Not only that, but as they had to leave their house early for work the next morning, they gave my parents the keys of their home, told them to have breakfast and to leave the key under the mat for them on their return.

My mother, now aged 84, would love to have contact with these two, very kind people who she has never forgotten, but cannot remember their names.I traded on Salford Market for 15 years, as did my father before me. In the winter months I had behind my stall a collection of gloves, socks, flasks of soup, cake and even a dinner given to me by some of my customers. They felt sorry for me standing all day in the cold winter months.

Salford people are the salt of the earth, always were, always will be. Maybe the two lovely people who helped my parents will read this and get in touch.

Thank you for sending the LifeTimes Link to me here in Spain.

Maria Smith, Spain

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On stage in my wellies

I lived in Clay Street (next to Strawberry Hill) and attended St. Barnabus Sunday school. When I was six or seven we had our yearly Sunday school outing to Salford Hippodrome to see Frank Randle in Aladdin.

We were all excited as we walked in the rain down the canal, eventually coming out at Windsor Bridge. We crossed the road and filed into the Hippodrome. We had great fun and enjoyed the singing. The words of the songs were displayed on a huge screen which was lowered from somewhere up above - magic!

The first song was ‘Why does a red cow give white milk when it always eats green grass?’ I still know all the words even though I sang along with everyone else some sixty years ago. People were then asked to go on the stage and sing. In a flash me and my friend Vernice Robinson were there. We sang ‘I want some red roses for a blue lady’ - we got rapturous applause as we knew all the words.

Why does a red cow give white milk when it always eats green grass?That’s the burning question.Let’s have your suggestion.You don’t know, I don’t knowDon’t be such an ass.Why does a red cow give white milk when it always eats green grass?

Dorothy Watson (née Wallace), Bolton

We asked you in LifeTimes Link 21 whether you had memories of appearing on stage at the Hip in Salford. Well, the memories came flooding back for some of you who got to enjoy your 5 minutes of fame!

Five minutes of fame on stage at the Hip

Frank Randle, who I remember had no teeth in, presented us with a sixpence and a rubber ball with the words ‘Aladdin’ on. My Mum and Dad were pleased and surprised when I got home and told them of my fame and I showed them my prize. What an exciting night I’d had, a little dampened by my Mum shouting “I can’t believe you’ve been on the stage at the Hip in your wellies! What will people think?”.

Still waiting for my prize!

I remember my old school having a speech and prize giving day at the Hip. About a week before we had to go there and practice being presented with our prizes on the stage.

When the big day came I was told my prize book hadn’t arrived so Mr. E.G. Simms passed a book to the Mayor who passed it to me with a handshake, and then I had to hand the book back as I left the stage.

I was told I would be given my prize book as soon as it arrived. I am now 70 years old and still waiting for it!

Mr John P.T. Williams, Stretford, Manchester

Finding your Salford friends If you want to make contact with old friends, reminisce about your old schools or favourite places in Salford or findtheanswerstoyourlocalhistoryqueriesthenlogonto our Heritage Discussion Forum on Salford City Council’s website at http://services.salford.gov.uk/forum/

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I suppose for some it was their main contact with the world outside the home, except for visits to the Tower or Victoria cinemas or maybe Saturday evenings in the many pubs in the area of which the ‘Road’ had its fair share - The Original, Unicorn, Beehive, Poets Corner, Royal Archer and the Alexandra, known as Stevie’s.

There was McMahan’s Dairy, a Chinese laundry, Birtwell’s electrical shop, Leonard Nield’s butchers and Gouldings confectioners, whose meat and potato pies were ‘to die for’. My mum bought our groceries from John O’Connor’s with its rolls of bacon in the window so you could choose the one you wanted and see it sliced on the new slicer. That shop always had clean sawdust on the floor and with its large biscuit tins with glass lids, huge blocks of butter, big round cheeses, sugar in blue bags and well stocked shelves, was a veritable Aladdin’s Cave of food. Mr O’Connor was a gentleman in every sense of the word and all his customers were treated like royalty.

The shops that I remember so well were of a different age from today and they carried on during the war years only to have the flood in 1946, which was devastating for us all in the area. But it was business as usual very soon afterwards, although the smell of the Irwell lingered in our nostrils for ages.

I understand that Lower Broughton is to be transformed again and I sincerely hope that at last it may lose the negative image it has had for a number of years. My memories are of a hard working, law abiding community, where everyone knew their neighbours and families were close-knit and supported one another and, despite the privations in those ‘2 up 2 down’ streets with outside loos in the yard and tin baths in the kitchen, we all survived with spirit and good humour!

Margaret Corkin

Our current LifeTimes exhibition, ‘Shop ‘till you drop!’, inspired a number of you to write in with your memories of shops and shopping in Salford. Some of you also have memories of growing up in shop-keeping families. If you have not visited the exhibition yet, there is still a chance to see it – it runs until Spring 2008 at Salford Museum & Art Gallery.

Here are the memories of two Link readers. We apologise that we don’t have enough space to publish others here, but thank you to everyone who wrote in.

Shopping on Lower Broughton RoadMargaret Corkin looks back at shops and shopkeepers

I was born in Derby Street, off Earl Street, in the 1930s and I have fond memories of the Broughton Road when I was growing up. ‘The Road’, with its great variety of shops, was the place to go for most things. Mr Black’s draper’s shop stocked everything from hairnets, stockings and vests, to union shirts, ties, socks and overalls. There was Spink’s cake shop and Toohey’s outdoor greengrocers and another greengrocer further up – McEvilley’s, which I think is still going on Mocha Parade.

John Weir’s Pawn Shop - Mr Weir’s grandson visited the Salford Local History Fair in 2005 and we had quite a chat about Lower Broughton Road in the ‘old days’, recalling The Milk Bar, Timpson’s, George Glass, Tom Witt the Tailor, The Meadow, Maypole, Broadbridge’s Opticians and Mr Griffith’s Shoe Shop, which was not as modern as Timpson’s, but was stacked from floor to ceiling with shoe boxes containing ‘mum type’ shoes and school footwear and pumps etc.

The Bazaar, with its sloping floor, sold toys and always smelled of balloons. There were butchers’ shops, two chemists, a milliner’s and a dress shop, Lower Broughton Road had everything in those days. The Regent Cake Shop was very popular, where the gentle white haired lady behind the counter was known to everyone as ‘Auntie’.

On the other side of the road was Bruckshaw’s, the tobacconist, where I would get ten Will’s Whiffs for my dad at Christmas and the Union Press printers, Law’s Barbers and the drapers run by a Russian lady (I think!), known to one and all as ‘Happy Fanny’ because she was never seen to smile.

In those days most mothers with children didn’t go out to work, or worked part time and so without fridges they would go shopping most days to get fresh food, stopping to chat with neighbours they met on the way. Hats and decent shoes were always worn - trainers were unheard of and trousers were only seen on men!

We are looking for any readers who lived in any of these areas of Higher Broughton - Earl Street, Kempster Street, Lucy Street, Hampshire Street, Wiltshire Street or Hanover Court. These areas have changed radically and we would like to hear what you remember about living there - what did you like about your street, what do you make of the changes in recent years? Contact Sarah Hughes: email sarah.hughes@salford.gov.uk

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called Mildred cutting her hand and running to our shop for help. Mum watched her being stitched up and then fainted herself!

We had an assistant called Jessie who cooked up a batch of scones in the kitchen one afternoon when the shop wasn’t busy. These sold so well and were so popular that Jessie made a variety of cakes daily after that. She was married to George Crook the local barber.

I was sad to leave my bedroom with rosebud wallpaper when we moved, but I know my parents were glad to give up shop-keeping as it was really hard work for little profit and they were often worried and weary.

Krys Hill

Shopping on Lower Broughton Road

From about 1949-1956 my mum and dad had a grocer’s shop in Salford 6 at the corner of Fitzwarren Street and Liverpool Street. It was known as ‘Roscoe’s’, my mum’s maiden name, as my dad was Polish and they thought customers might be suspicious of a foreign name. The shop was open from 7 am to 7 pm, with an hour closed for lunch and a half day on Tuesdays (when we often used to go to the matinee of the variety show at the local Hippodrome). Directly opposite, on Liverpool Street, was Ted Dunnett’s butchers shop and there was a sweet shop on the opposite corner of Fitzwarren Street with a 1d chewing gum machine outside which gave two packets for every fourth penny. There was a newsagents, McNultie’s, at the end of the block up Fitzwarren Street where I bought comics travelling there on my scooter.

The bread man from ‘Moore’s Luxury Loaf’ used to deliver before the shop opened every day. My mum used to pre-cut and weigh butter into greaseproof packets from a huge slab and bacon and ham were sliced as required. Biscuits came loose in large square tins and dried fruit, lentils, dried beans etc. were weighed out as required. They cut cheese from a large round with a wire and weighed out sugar into blue paper bags. We also sold potatoes from a hessian

Lower Broughton Road,1961 (Salford Local History Library)

sack and – very modern at the time – tins of Heinz spaghetti and sachets of Chico coffee. Rationing and points were still continuing.

Behind the shop was our living room with a small, curtained window looking on to the money drawer. Behind the living room was a stock room with lots of shelving and our dog’s basket. She had her puppies in there – hygiene rules were not as strict then! I used to play in the stock room using hundreds of full boxes of ‘Pack’ matches as building bricks, apparently fire safety wasn’t a consideration either.

Some customers were allowed their groceries on tick. My mum kept a big sheet of paper pinned up by the doorway into the living room with a column of names with their debts to be totted up at the end of the week. Occasionally someone would do a moonlight flit and disappear without paying.

My mum not only kept shop, but was looked on as a general advisor and information dispenser. She helped fill in official forms and even wrote letters on occasion for customers who asked her. On at least three occasions she accompanied minor accident victims to hospital casualty. I remember a woman

Our ShopKrys Hill shares the view from the other side of the counter

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Friends of Roe Green

The name Roe Green has appeared on a map as early as 1590 and the green has long been registered as common land.

We are a newly formed group and have a growing membership and will become a registered charity. We will be active in promoting and raising funds to conserve the local area, hold community events, hold twice yearly open meetings and publish a newsletter. We want our young people to be proud of their village and visitors to be able to find out the history.

We would be very interested in receiving anecdotes, memories or photographs of growing up and living in Roe Green. These will be acknowledged and photographs returned.Email: yourviews@friendsofroegreen.orgor phone: Jean Barnes 0161 790 4635

Memories of the creation of Lark Hill Place

I have special memories of the making of ‘the street’. As a member of the Saturday Morning Museum Club we were very interested in what was going on in the museum when all of the ground floor was being closed. Most of the things were to be exchanged from other museums so we could have a Victorian Street. We were asked to try to bring in anything from around that period that we could find. I lived with my grandma and grandfather and I turned our house upside down looking for things. The local schools were also asked and children began to visit grandmas to see if they had anything. Many people, like my grandma, thought it was a silly idea and people would get fed up with seeing the same things. But this is not what happened and our Salford street is famous all over the Northwest.

Wendi Robinson (née Archer), Swinton

Unfortunately we did not receive any answers to our Mystery Pix in Issue 21, so please take another look at the photos on the left, and give us a call or e-mail us to let us know if you think you know where they are. One of our readers did think Mystery Pix no 1 (top) might be an open air school in Salford so if you can identify it then please contact us.

1. We think this is a classroom in Cromwell Road Girls School in 1965. Can anyone confirm this or perhaps even recognise themselves?

2. Can you identify where this is? It was taken in 1984.

3. Pets win prizes! The full array of domestic pets from the 1950s - guinea pigs, rabbits, cats, dogs and monkeys! Perhaps you are one of the proud pet owners?

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Mystery PixSalford Local History Library has over 50,000 photos in their collection - unfortunately we can’t identify some of the donations. Drop us a line or pop into the Local History Library if you can help (open Tuesday to Friday 10.00am-5.00pm with a late night closing on Wednesday 8.00pm).

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Contact Heather on 0161 778 0885 or email heather.mcalpine@salford.gov.uk

2007 marks the 100th anniversary of Scouting. Robert Baden-Powell founded the movement in 1907, with anexperimentalcampfor20boyson Brownsea Island, Dorset. The Scouting movement has grown to become a mass movement worldwide. There are now more than 28 million young Scouts in 216 countries.

As the movement enters its second century we celebrate with a look back at Scouting in Salford. Here are a few photos from Salford Local History Library showing Scouting through the decades.

Were you a Cub, Scout, Brownie or Guide? If you were we would be interested to hear your stories and if you have any photos of your troop please contact us. Please note we cannot guarantee the safety of any photos you send to us but we will return any photos we do receive.

Salford Scouting

Below, left to right: 29th Salford Scouts on scout camp in Sherwood Forest, 1934

2nd Salford Scout Troop 191711th Salford Scouts (St Stephens) c 1924

43rd Salford Cubs c 1971

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Salford Scouting

Boothstown & District Local History Group Our informal meetings are held in the main hall of Boothstown Community Centre, Stansfield Drive, on the third Wednesday of the month. Contact - Ann Monaghan 0161 778 0881 during office hours or 0161 799 6091 evenings.• Wednesday 21 NovemberSelection from the Collection Volume 2 Ann Monaghan• Wednesday 19 DecemberNorth Country Folklore Peter Watson.This talk postponed from last season. Seasonal refreshments will be served.Talksstartat7.45pm•Price£1.50

Broughton District Local History Group Meet at Broughton LibraryContact Mrs P Dimond 0161 798 6382Talks start at 7.30pmVisitors welcome - £1.00

Eccles Heritage Meet at The Links Centre, Chadwick RoadFor details contact Ann Humpage 0161 789 2820Website: www.ecclesheritage.colsal.org.uk• Thursday 6 December Policing in Salford 1840-1860Mr D Broady• Thursday 7 February YetAnotherOldSalfordSlideShowTony Frankland• Thursday 6 March Every Picture Tells a Story Margaret Curry• Thursday 3 April PeterlooMrs GilbertsonTalksstartat2.00pm•Price:£1.50

Eccles & District History SocietyMeet at Alexandra House, Peel Green on the second Wednesday of the month. Contact Andrew Cross 0161 788 7263Website: www.edhs.colsal.org.uk• Wednesday 14 November Agecroft Hall Chris Whitefoot • Wednesday 12 December Christmas buffet and seasonal entertainment. To be held in the Bridgewater Room at Eccles Parish Church. • Wednesday 9 January Eccles theatres and cinemas Tony Flynn • Wednesday 13 February Halls of Little Hulton and their ghosts Ann Monaghan • Wednesday 12 March The Manchester, Bolton and Bury Canal Paul Hindle • Wednesday 9 April James Nasmyth John Aldred • Wednesday 14 May Annual General Meeting followed by a local history slideshow.Talks start at 7.30pm

Irlam, Cadishead & District Local History Society Meet at St. Paul’s Church, Liverpool Road, IrlamContact Deborah Yates 0161 775 8708Website: www.icdlhs.colsal.org.uk• Wednesday 21 November Theatres and Music Halls of the North West Part II Mr Leslie Willis• December - No meeting• Wednesday 16 January Who wrote Shakespeare’s Sonnets?Mr Ben Alexander• Wednesday 20 February Curiosities of Lancashire Mr P Robinson• Wednesday 19 March Sweet Memories Mrs J Bradshaw• Wednesday 16 April Houses and Garden’s of Cheshire and Derbyshire Mrs Barbara Lovegrove• Wednesday 21 May Horace the Elk Dr Brian BarnesTalks start at 7.30 pmVisitors welcome: £1.00

Salford Local History SocietyMeet at Salford Museum & Art Gallery. Contact Roy Bullock 0161 736 7306 www.salfordlocalhistorysociety.colsal.org.uk • Wednesday 28 November 100YearsofAviationAroundManchesterDavid George • December 2007 no meeting • Wednesday 30 January The Halls of Little Hulton Ann Monaghan • Wednesday 27 FebruaryThe Story of Worsley Green John Aldred. • Wednesday 26 March Salford’s Scheduled Ancient Monuments & the Historic Halls of Salford Joe MartinTalks start at 7.30pmVisitors welcome: £1.00

Swinton & Pendlebury Local History Society Meet at Pendlebury Methodist Church, Bolton RoadContact John Cook 0161 736 6191Website: www.splhs.colsal.org.uk• Monday 26 November Reminiscence session • Monday 10 December An Australian Christmas A musical talk by Brian Tipler • Monday 7 January Origins of Marriage Traditions Ian Tootell • Monday 21 January Christmas Luncheon • Monday 4 February Manchester Railway StationsDavid George • Monday 18 February Reminiscence session • Monday 3 March Selection from the Collection Ann Monaghan • Monday 17 MarchReminiscence session

• Monday 31 March History of the Birtwistle Family Ray Ashton • Monday 14 April Coach Trip - details to be advised • Monday 28 April The History of Recording • Monday 12 May Reminiscence SessionTalks start at 10amPrice: £1.00

Walkden Local History GroupMeet in the Guild Hall, Guild Avenue on the second Wednesday of the month. Contact Ann Monaghan 0161 778 0881 during office hours• Wednesday 14 November A Walk Round Central ManchesterMargaret Curry• Wednesday 12 December Another Salford Slide Show Tony Frankland • Wednesday 9 JanuarySwinton Industrial SchoolsJohn Cook• Wednesday 13 FebruaryTextileVillages David George• Wednesday 12 March Halls of Worsley and Little HultonAnn Monaghan • Wednesday 9 AprilHistory of Eccles and PatricroftChris Carson• Wednesday 14 MayRoe Green Amble Meet Beesley Green 2pmTalks start at 2pmPrice: £1.50

Worsley Methodist Church & Community Association Meet at Worsley Methodist Church, Barton Road. Contact Frank Brittain 0161 789 7885Talks start 7.30pm Cost £3.00 including tea and biscuits (proceeds in aid of the church)

This calendar of local history/heritage activities is based on information supplied by the individual organisations and is believed to be correct at the time of going to press. It may be advisable to confirm details in advance of attending an event.

Note to programme secretaries. For your group’s talks to be included in this listing please send your programme to us before the deadline as shown on p2.

Some societies have their own websites and details of all talks supplied to us are also listed on our web page at www.salford.gov.uk/museum-talks

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Salford Museum & Art GalleryPeel Park, Crescent, Salford M5 4WUTel: 0161 778 0800 • Fax: 0161 745 9490Email: salford.museum@salford.gov.ukOpen: Mon-Fri 10.00am-4.45pm and Sat-Sun 1.00-5.00pmFree parking, disabled access, gift shop, café .

Salford Local History Library at Salford Museum & Art Gallery:Open: Tues, Thurs and Fri 10.00am-5.00pm and Weds 10.00am-8.00pmClosed weekends and Mondays

Ordsall Hall MuseumOrdsall Lane, Salford M5 3ANTel: 0161 872 0251 • Fax: 0161 872 4951Email:salford.museum@salford.gov.ukOpen: Mon-Fri 10.00am-4.00pm and Sunday 1.00-4.00pmClosed SaturdayFree parking, gift shop, limited disabled access

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