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So You Want Your Child/Student to be Famous? Ted Goertzel

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So You Want Your Child/Student to be Famous?. Ted Goertzel. Why?. To realize your own frustrated ambitions? To help them realize theirs? Because it is a side-effect of helping them to achieve other goals? Famous people are not, on average, happier than other people - PowerPoint PPT Presentation

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So You Want Your Child/Student to be Famous?

Ted Goertzel

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Why?

• To realize your own frustrated ambitions?• To help them realize theirs?• Because it is a side-effect of helping them to

achieve other goals?• Famous people are not, on average, happier

than other people• Nor do they necessarily contribute more to

society

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Fame Depends on Interests• Outstanding actors,

athletes, musicians and writers become famous

• Outstanding dentists, accountants and undertakers do not

• with Doc Holliday as the exception that proves the rule

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Pushing kids may make life difficult for them

But it may also get results

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Our research is also often supportive of “pushy” parents.

So long as they push their children where they want to go.

“Facilitating parent” might be a better term

Often the best “pushing” is by example Reading Cradles may give you

ideas for a pathway to eminence that might suit your child.

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World’s Pushiest Mother?

• Douglas MacArthur’s mother was his only teacher until he was thirteen

• She moved to be near him when he went to West Point, walked with him on “flirtation walk”

• She went with him to the Philippines in 1935 because he was reluctant to leave her

Mary Pinkney (“Pinky”) MacArthur

Douglas at West Point

His father, General Arthur MacArthur

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Tiger Woods’ father solved practical problems – such as access to golf courses that - a boy simply could not have resolved on his own.

Parent as facilitator or “coach”

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Pablo Casals

• His mother took him from a small town to Barcelona for lessons

• He had no dreams of becoming a great artist

• They suffered poverty in Brussels and Paris to advance his career

• His mother had to sell her hair to raise funds

His mother and his first teacher, Jose Garcia

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Yo Yo Ma

• Taught by his father• Took up the cello because his

older sister played the violin• First concert at age five,

parents limited his appearances• Credited his father’s lessons in

solfeggio and Gregorian chants in Church for inspiration

• Studied with Leonard Rose at the Julliard School

• He skipped non-music classes until put in an accelerated program.

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Oprah Winfrey

• Pushed hard by grandmother when very small

• Bussed in to a suburban school

• Rescued and pushed by her father

• Encouraged to skip graduate school by a college teacher

Buffeted by positive and negative “pushing” throughout her childhood and adolescence.

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• Margaret Sanger’s father was a follower of evolutionist Charles Darwin and agnostic lawyer Robert Ingersoll

•He was a socialist activist and a stonecutter and was away from home a lot.

• Her mother was a devout Catholic who had 18 pregnancies and 11 live births before dying of tuberculosis and cervical cancer

Neighbors called Margaret and her siblings the “Children of the Devil”

Pushing by example

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“Buffalo Bill” Cody’s father, Isaac Cody, was an activist in the abolitionist movement, helping to move anti-slavery settlers into Kansas. His family attributed his death to the lasting effects of a stabbing by a pro-slavery settler. “Buffalo Bill” never took any interest in politics.

Pushing by example

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• George W. Bush followed an exceptionally accomplished father

• His parents displayed remarkable forbearance, allowing him to live his own life as a young bachelor.

• Death of his little sister a major family trauma.

George W. Bush: “I can’t exaggerate to you what wonderful parents George and Barbara Bush were. They were liberating people. There was never that oppressiveness you see with other parents, never the idea that their way was the only way.

George W. Zeb

Pushing by example

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• Her mother had been neglected and abused

• She succeeded in her determination not to pass the chain of abuse on to her children

• Hillary had a happy experience in school, participating in many extra-curricular activities

Hillary Clinton

Hugh, Hillary, Hugh, Jr., and Dorothy

Pushing by example

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• Richard Feynman’s father started teaching him science when he was in his high chair

• He gave him colored blocks of different sizes and shapes to organize and analyze

• Scientists often had happier childhoods than other eminent people

Parent as facilitator or “coach”

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An excellent practical, research based, guide to nurturing creativity.

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Piirto’s

Pyramid of

Talent Development

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It starts with the genes. You can’t change the genes, but you can observe and test to find a child’s strengths.

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The emotional factors are strongly influenced by early childhood – the preschool years

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Personality Attributes Cited in the Literature

• Androgyny

• Creativity

• Imagination

• Insight

• Openness

• A Sense of Naivete

• “Overexcitability”

• Passion for work in a domain

• Perceptiveness

• Perfectionism

• Resilience

• Risk-taking Propensity

• Self-discipline

• Self-efficacy

• Tolerance of ambiguity

• Volition or Will

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Internal Locus of Control

• Personality attributes are inborn

• But they can also be nurtured or even taught

• A child is more likely to achieve eminence if he or she has an “internal locus of control”

• We can facilitate this when we find it

• But it cannot be imposed

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A minimum level of intellectual competence is necessary, depending on the area of achievement

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“Talent” is the tip of the Piirto pyramid – it is the ability to apply abilities, emotions and learning in a specific area

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Recognizing Talent

• Exceptional performance

• Predictive behaviors – extensive, passionate reading may predict

talent as a writer– collecting baseball statistics may predict

mathematical talents

• Talent is expressed with tools provided by the culture, often by the school

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The final ingredient is what the Greeks called a muse, what Jung calls an archetypal passion – Piirto calls it the Thorn in the Side

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The Thorn in the Side

• Talent is not enough• The thorn in the side is a passion that

engrosses• The thorn pushes people through a

period of incubation in which the talent matures

• This may involve course work or training or lessons, depending on the nature of the talent

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The “Suns” are Piirto’s metaphor for the environmental factors that nurture the creative individual

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The “Sun” of Family and Community in Cradles of Eminence

• Small town, rural or exurban upbringing

• Love of learning in the home

• Restless, energetic parents

• Opinionated parents

• Parents with frustrated aspirations

• In some cases, parents who devote their lives to their children

• Others were actively discouraged by at least one parent

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The “Sun” of School in Cradles of Eminence

• Dislike of routinized learning

• Opportunities for self-directed learning

• Sometimes home schooled or tutored

• Laboratory and computer facilities

• Extra-curricular activities and clubs

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Dorothy Baker author, MissoulaDirk Benedict actor, HelenaW. A. Tony Boyle labor union official, Bald ButteDana Carvey comedian, MissoulaGary Cooper actor, HelenaMike Mansfield, Senator, Great FallsChet Huntley journalist, TV newscaster, CardwellWill James writer, artist, Great FallsEvel Knievel daredevil motorcyclist, ButteJerry Kramer football player, author, JordanMyrna Loy actress, HelenaDavid Lynch filmmaker, MissoulaGeorge Montgomery actor, BradyJeannette Rankin first woman elected to Congress, MissoulaMartha Raye actress, ButteMichael Smuin choreographerLester C. Thurow economist, educator, Livingston

Norman Maclean, writerThomas McGuane, writer, from Mcleod, alcoholic father

Some fruit of the Montana “Sun”

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http://www.thingstodo.com/states/MT/famous_people.htm