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New South Wales Police i_ P.190
STATEMENT in the matter of: Bexley Boys Home
:::~ss: b•pJ~ Occupation: Demolition Supervisor
v2.6
Place: City Police Station
Adelaide St Brisbane.
Date : 29 July 1998
Tel. No.: REDACTED STATES:-
1. This statement mad.a by me accurately sets out the evidence
which I would be prepared, if necessary, to give in court as a
witness. The statement is ... true to the best of my knowledge and
belief and I make it knowing that, if it is tendered in evidence,
I shall be liable to prose·cution if I have wilfully. stated
anything which I know to be false or do not believe to be true.
2; I am 37 years of age. I was born on the REDACTED
-3. I have lived at my current address since ·october 199·7. Prior
to that I lived at various locations in Queensland since
September, 1988. In May, 1989 I married my former wife l@d•MtJ• 1jJ1•'Ptlj£ w~ divorced at the beginning of .. this year. There are three
children to my former marriage they are • 1 • :who is 8 years old,
';m·mrn·: who is 7 years of
4. As a child I grew up in Sydney and lived with my parents
until I turned about 8 or 9 years old. At that time my dad left
us. I lived with my mother . and 3 brothers and 3 sisters at. REDACTED I remember when I was a child my mum had a
maJor stomach operation in St Vincents Hospital a_nd the surgeon
was Dr Fleming. I believe this operation took place very late in
1973 as mum wasn 1 t home for Christmas that year. Early the
following year my mum put me into the Bexley Boys Home on advice
from the Government Welfare people. My mum is Salvation Army and
thought it would be good for me to go to Bexley. I think I was 13
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STAT.0122.001.0451_R
STATEMENT (continued) Paqe No: 2 ~~ 190A.
in the ~atter of: Bexley Boys Home --Name: .__IFR ______ __,1 ·
years of age at the time I went to the Bexley Boys Home.
5. I believe I stayed at the Home for about 14 months. During my
time at the Home I remember . the workers at the Home were Wendy the
Cook, Captain Wilson, IX15 l'. I can picture the f .ace of
the lady who did the laundry but . I can't rem~mber her name, .... 1x_1_2 __ _. who was around all the time he ·was like a . handy rnan, · there was a
husband and wife who looked after the very·· young children and
others but I can't remembe~ .their names . . Qbyiously there were many
children who stayed ·at the Home. durin«J ·the time r was t:here. I
remember ET whom we called · 'Head' · as a nickname, -
a bloke who had .. a-tattoe> who· ~gat--±nto--a· -1ot of trouble
because he used to steal cars, 1xs lwho was an Aboriginal boy,
anotheJjJ;•&'ttJl=who stayed :i:n my room, a 7 year ~ld named g whom -- ---·----- - - I -us ed--to- h'e·1p-·wfth- ·hi:s - homework; ld9•M• I--can-'-t-remember- his- last-
n~me and _otl'!_ers whose f~9~s. I c~ pi~-;_ur~ ip m~ mind but I can ' t
remember names.
6. I can remember some of my experiences at the Bexley Boys
Home, some were good and some were bad . I can remember the bad
incidents very vividly. I can remember the physical punislunent
which often left me with bruises on my body and near broken
fingers. I lost count of the number of times I was caned but you
would always get 6 cuts across the fingers. The caning was that
bad that my fingers would be bruised and I often couldn't write
for days. Captain Wilson was the person who used to cane me. He
used to leap off the floor and bring the cane down on your hands.
I was also hit many times from behind to th~ back of my head and
across the back and bo oted· up the rear -end by Capt ain Wilson. It
was always Wilson, IX15 I only ever raised his voice or
punished you in a non-physical way like taking your T. V. or
playtime away. FR
Witness: Signature:
STAT.0122.001.0452_R
STATEMENT (continued) in the Paqe No: 3 P.;190A.
matter of :,_,,,B,_,,e,,,,x .... l...,e~v,__,B=o=.....v=s~H=o=m=e:..._ __ ~ ·~ ..
Name:..__IFR _____ ______.1~
7. Apart from the physical abuse which I suffered at the hands
of Captain Wilson I also remember times when he took advantage of
me when r . was sick. The first time I remember happened within the
first few days I arrived at the Bexley Boys Home. Captain Wilson made ~e strip so that I was naked except for me socks for a so
cal led medical examination. I think I was wearing shorts and a yellow T-shirt because it was sununer time. I think this was a
·saturday because I arrived at the Home on a Thursday or a Friday and I think tiie start.ea·· s c li6of.. abouta-Weelt Yater--:- -'rli"f s occurred in . -· . a room where boys went to when they were sick. I can't remember exactly where the room was I can remember the front of the Home
and the back of the Home but not the detail. If I was to go there now I would be able to walk straight to the room I am talking
about. I remember the room had a wooden floor with a rug on the
floor. There was one window which was frosted glass and two doors
whic;=h were dark brown v..arn~sh in colo.ur . One .do.or lead into th~ room from the hallway and one led into Wilson's office. There was
also a glass cabinet on one wall which contained medical instruments and bandages.
8. I remember he checked my hair for headlice with his fingers then he checked me ears using a torch like doctors use, looked
down me throat using a tongue depressor and the torch, rubbed his hands down both sides of my body, then fondled with my genitals
for a minute or two he seemed to be taking his time about it. He touched my genitals with his hand which was cupped and moved his
hand from my nuts up my dick in a cupping motion. He did this a number of times. I remember I was very frightened and scared at
the time. After this he told. me to bend over then I felt his fingers inside my arse. At time I had to bend over I balanced
myself by placing hands on a bench or table he had in that room. I can clearly remember there was a green sheet, like a hospital
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STAT.0122.001.0453_R
STATEMENT (continued) in the Page No: 4 P~l90A.
matter of: ~B ......... e-x~l~e~v_..B~o~v~s..._.H~o~m.....,e~~~~~ ·
Name; ~IF_R~~~~~~~~~~r sheet, . over this bench. I don't know how many fingers he put
inside my arse but it was very pain ful. I can' t remember how long
he kept his fingers inside my arse all I can remember is that it
was extremely painful . I can• t remember whether he moved his
fingers in and out of my arse .all I can remember .is the pain .
Captain Wilson spoke to m.e duj:ing .the ex~mination but I can't
remember his exact words . . ~ think b~. might have told me to cough
when he had me nuts in his hand but I can 1 t .. be certain .. At the ·
time of this incident Capta:i,p.: Wilson h9d a attache bag in the room - ··· - ·- - .. · ... ~- ·-
in which he kept his in.struments. ·r can't ~emember the colour of
the bag but it had a l0
id which flapped over the top of the bag to
the front of the bag where_. the. locks .were.
9. . After Captain Wilson was finished he tol<;l me to get dressed
and go out an_~ ~lay- ~ith th~ Ie~t o~ the boys. I ~ent outside but
I didn't play because I was· upset and didn't understand what had
)ust happened. I sat under a-·tre·e nea.r t ·be .. ova L Th-e o ther kids
were playing. soccer, footy,, chasings a~d 0therc games. I didn't . . .
talk to any of the other kids at that time becaµse I only just got
t~ere and I didn't ~now any of the other kids . I remember f 15 I IX 5 I walking over to me and saying words to the effect, 11 Come
over and join in with the other boys so you get to know them . 11 I
didn't accept his invitation. I sat there for half an hour or so,
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wandered off and went to the toilet. After · I finished going to the I · "
t oilet I wiped myself with toi.let paper and noticed blood on the
paper. I was too scared to seek medical treatment again after what
had just happened to me. I also remember getting into trouble off
IX15 I becau.se I forgot· to ask his permission to go to
t h e toilet. He only verbally told me about the rules about going
t o t he t oilet.
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STAT.0122.001.0454_R
STATEMENT (continued) P..; 190A. ~
Page No: 5 in the matter of: Bexley Boys Home
Name: .__IFR ______ ____.I ~
10. I did not tell anyone about what Captain Wilson did to me
until much later. I think the first person I told about it was
IET I who was a good ·friend of mine at the Home. I told~ about 2 or 3 months later as we were walking to the schoolbu~ go to Kingsgrove High Schoo·l. We caught the bus from Bexley North
Railway Station . I got · ~he impression from IET I facial
expression a.t the time that it wasn't anything new to him and that
others must have told him similar things. Years later I told a
psychologist, whose name I ._can't. remember, at the Yagoona Child
Heal th Service about Captain Wilson touching my genitals. I
believe the psychologist made notes . The centre was Government run
and located on the Hume Highway ·across the road from Yagoona
Railway Station. The other person I told about the incident was my
psychologist in Brisbane named Mal McCloat of the Annerley
Counselling .Services, Logan Rd, . -Stones Corner.
11. About 3 to 4 weeks later I was walking by myself during a
play period in on~ of the corridors in the dormitory building . It
was afternoon but I can't remember the day. ·At the time I was
walking back to my locker to get something out of it. I reached a
point in the corridor where the locker room, laundry and showers
meet. Captain Wilson walked towards me and I thought I was in
trouble by the way he looked at me. I had permis~ion to get
something out of my locker from lX15 j. Captain Wilson
asked me what I was doing and I told him.. He said words to the
effect, 11 Do you like it here'?" I nodded. At this time we, were
standing facing each other about an arms length apart. He put one
hand, possibly the r i ght, around and placed it on the back of my
head, he then he pulled my head towards his face. He leant down
while he did this as he was taller than m~. At the time he pulled
my face towards his he opened his mouth up and placed it over my
nose and chin so that it was covering my mouth. It was in this
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STAT.0122.001.0455_R
. Page No: 6 p_,;..l90A. STATEMENT (continued) in the matter of: .-=B~e=x=l=e~v'-'B=o=y-<-=s-=H=o=m=eo._ __ ~ ~
Name: ._IF_R ________ _____.I ~
position for between 5 to 10 seconds. I was very frightened and packing shit, I was trying to get away. I clammed up and struggl ed
to get away. As soon as he let go I ran out onto the oval and told
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X15 I a lie I said," I c.;uldn' t find my tennis ball."
.X15 11o·oked at me as if he thought something was wrong but he didn ' t ask anything. After this Captain Wilson walked out and
spoke to 1x1s I·· Once· they finished talking IX15 1x 15 I said," Go and· see Captain Wilson in his office .~''._I_w_a_s very scared b~'!; I_ w_~P..t .. t;6 ._hi~ ~ff~ce, I saw his secretary was there, so I was relieved. I can't remember who the secretary was as they changed.
12. Wilson was standing near his secretary when I arrived. He accuseq me of having some other boy's toys~ in my locker which was
not ·true. He- said, 11 . You are goi~g· to get 6, go around the
corridor." I walked around to the corridor which was near reception and the other door leading to Wilson's office. I was caned by. Captain Wilson 'fn the corridor. I got 3 c"uts to each
hand. (APPENDIX 1 IFR ! draws a floor plan of the area and puts an 'C' indic~a-t~in_g_w~~ he was caned and a 'K' for the
kissing incident). After I was caned I cried me eyes out and went into the T.V. room. I was very upset about how I had been unfairly treated.
13. About 2 months later I was sent home from School by Mr Yardley because I had the mumps . My throat was swollen and I felt
crook. At the time I arrived at the Home lX15 lwas on duty . I showed him the note fr.om school and he sent me up to my
room. He -came up later - with water, panadol or aspircin and extra blankets. He appeared to be genuinely concerned about my welfare
as he generally was with all of us. I layed in my bed and
1x 15 I told me I woul d later have to share my room with another
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STAT.0122.001.0456_R
STATEMENT (conti nued) i n the Page No : 7 P.; 190A.
matter of: ,.-B"'e ... x ..... l...,e .... v..__ ... B ... oci.v_..s.___.._H..,.o ..... m,.,e~----~i
Name : ~IF_R~~~~~~~~~~~
boy named l;Je•flt)I; who also had mumps . - later moved into my room and we roomed together from then on . I can't remember '@@•M1I@• last name. After IX15 lleft my room ! ·was alone and went to
sleep . I had pyjamas on with a draw string around the waist.
14. I remember being woken up and I was laying on my right side.
Another boy from the Home named, 1Xs jwho was an Aboriginal
boy, was laying behind me. I could feel his dick inside my arse. I' remember the pain and tha;~ .· is what woke me up . I also remember
1xs !had his left arm across my stomach holding me so I
couldn't move . I screamed as loud as I could and I heard • • · • who
was sick in the next room call out to
bo 1 ted from my room. I remember ... lx_s ___ _.I was at the Home when I
first got there and. was still there when I left. He was bigger and
older than me . I don't know his exact age but he was a few forms
ahead of me at.- -school and -he was physically larger than me. I did
get my own back on ldd'f"'d at a later stage with a baseball bat .
. 15 . After 1xs j left the rooml-;•M1rcame in and commented about how white I looked . - went downstairs to get IX15 I however Captain Wilson came to my room . Captain Wilson walked into
my room and said,'' You must be running a temperature." He said this while he touched my forehead with his hand. He said," I will
be back in a minute . " He went away and came back with the same bag I described earlier. Wilson and I were the only two in the room.
Wilson took out the tongue depressor and torch from his bag, he 'checked me throat and ears then he took out his stethoscope and
put it on my chest and back. He ~old me to lift my shirt up whilst
he did this . I said to Wilson words to the effect,"~8 r tuck something up me arse." I was very hesitant to tell Wilson about
what had happened because I was didn't trust him and was shit scared of him.
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STAT.0122.001.0457_R
Page No: 8 STATEMENT (continued) in the matter of: Bexley Boys Home
16. I was still in my about ~IX-8--~, he told
hesitant but I pulled
Name: ~IF_R ___________ __,
bed sitting up and then after I told him
me to take my pyjama pants off, I was
them down to my knees. My backside was
exposed. Wilson told me to roll over onto my stomach. I saw Wilson
take a rubber glove out of his bag and put it on one of his han~s,
he mi'ght have put two gloves on I Im. not su:re. I felt him use his
hands to pull . the. cheeks of my arse apart. I looked at the floor.
I .felt him put what felt like two fingers into my a.rse. He moved
his fi!l9~J'.S ~~C?Un~ insi_de ~y_ .- ars~. I told him to stop because it was very· painful·._ He K.ept moving his fingers inside me for what
seemed to be one to two minutes. He said to me," No-one has been
ther.e . . !!.... Then- he- t0il.d- me-.to roll back onto my left side . This is
very embarrassing, I- ended up with a raging 'fat' meaning my dick
was erect.
17. At this point Captain Wilson took off his gloves and tried to
masturbate me. He plac;:ed · one of his hands around my penis and
moved it up and down my penis. I was not pubescent at the time. I
noticed he had a very weird smile on his face. He moved his hand
up and down my penis for about a minute. I . protested the whole
time and forced myself to yell: Wilson stopped and put two
aspirins in a glass of water for me to take. I took the aspirin
and then vomited water up onto Wilson's shirt and trousers . He was
wearing a Salvation Army uniform at the time. I was surprised when
I didn '·t get into trouble for throwing up on him. He said," You
are sick I' 11 get some water sent up." He packed his bag and left.
I didn't see him again for two days. After that 1x1s took me under his wing and looked after me . ~~~~~~~~~~
18. The first person I told about this was my room mate w1•ml: whose last name I can't remember . We were the same age and went to
the same school. We were in the same Tech Drawing class and we did
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STAT.0122.001.0458_R
STATEMENT (continued) in the . Paqe No: 9 P.; 190A.
matter of: ~B~e~x=l~e~y..__B=--=-oAy~s---'--H_o~m~e~~~~ ...... ~
Name= ~IF_R~~~~~~~~~-r our home work together. In fact Mr Newman would probably know
'di''f''i•last name because Mr Newman used to supervise us while we did our homework together . I also to.okldd•fll:home with me on weekend leave a few. times so mum, might remember is name. ~ was about the same build as me and he had black coloured .ha~
19 . I also told my psychologist Mal McCloat about the incident I have just described. I also spoke to Mr Yardley and Miss Dixon at Kingsgrove High School about_.Captain Wil on. After I s oke to them
X15 Wilson seemed to stay away from me looked
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