talking the talk: messaging that moves
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This Gathering of Leaders 2014 session presented frameworks, data, and case studies to help participants strengthen message strategies that foster support and investment in young men of color.TRANSCRIPT
Talking the Talk:Messaging that Moves
Meredith FentonFenton Communications
Robert PerezWonder Strategies for Good
Amy SimonGoodwin Simon Strategic Research
Dwayne ProctorRobert Wood Johnson Foundation
Zachary NorrisElla Baker Center for Human Rights
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Talking the Talk: Messaging that Moves
Meredith FentonFenton Communications@meredithfenton
Robert PerezWonder Strategies for Good@rperezzz
Amy SimonGoodwin Simon Strategic Research@amyrsimon
Dwayne ProctorRobert Wood Johnson Foundation@drdwayneproctor
Zachary NorrisElla Baker Center for Human Rights@ZachWNorris
Agenda Goals & AudiencesThe Messaging Landscape What the Research Teaches Us Strategic Messaging Case Studies
Robert Wood Johnson FoundationElla Baker Center for Human Rights
Discussion and Questions
Messaging that MovesTalking the Talk: Messaging that Moves
Meredith FentonFenton Communications@meredithfenton
Robert PerezWonder Strategies for Good@rperezzz
Amy SimonGoodwin Simon Strategic Research@amyrsimon
Dwayne ProctorRobert Wood Johnson Foundation@drdwayneproctor
Zachary NorrisElla Baker Center for Human Rights@ZachWNorris
Goals & Audiences
GoalsTalking the Talk: Messaging that Moves
Meredith FentonFenton Communications@meredithfenton
Robert PerezWonder Strategies for Good@rperezzz
Amy SimonGoodwin Simon Strategic Research@amyrsimon
Dwayne ProctorRobert Wood Johnson Foundation@drdwayneproctor
Zachary NorrisElla Baker Center for Human Rights@ZachWNorris
Audiences
Need to know the starting place of our audiences so we know how to reach them.
Talking the Talk: Messaging that Moves
Meredith FentonFenton Communications@meredithfenton
Robert PerezWonder Strategies for Good@rperezzz
Amy SimonGoodwin Simon Strategic Research@amyrsimon
Dwayne ProctorRobert Wood Johnson Foundation@drdwayneproctor
Zachary NorrisElla Baker Center for Human Rights@ZachWNorris
Audiences
Lived experiences impact opinions.
Racial bias and internalized oppression impact people’s mindsets.
Talking the Talk: Messaging that Moves
Meredith FentonFenton Communications@meredithfenton
Robert PerezWonder Strategies for Good@rperezzz
Amy SimonGoodwin Simon Strategic Research@amyrsimon
Dwayne ProctorRobert Wood Johnson Foundation@drdwayneproctor
Zachary NorrisElla Baker Center for Human Rights@ZachWNorris
The Messaging Landscape
The Messaging Landscape Talking the Talk: Messaging that Moves
Meredith FentonFenton Communications@meredithfenton
Robert PerezWonder Strategies for Good@rperezzz
Amy SimonGoodwin Simon Strategic Research@amyrsimon
Dwayne ProctorRobert Wood Johnson Foundation@drdwayneproctor
Zachary NorrisElla Baker Center for Human Rights@ZachWNorris
PUBLICADVOCATES
The Messaging LandscapeTalking the Talk: Messaging that Moves
Meredith FentonFenton Communications@meredithfenton
Robert PerezWonder Strategies for Good@rperezzz
Amy SimonGoodwin Simon Strategic Research@amyrsimon
Dwayne ProctorRobert Wood Johnson Foundation@drdwayneproctor
Zachary NorrisElla Baker Center for Human Rights@ZachWNorris
The Messaging LandscapeTalking the Talk: Messaging that Moves
Meredith FentonFenton Communications@meredithfenton
Robert PerezWonder Strategies for Good@rperezzz
Amy SimonGoodwin Simon Strategic Research@amyrsimon
Dwayne ProctorRobert Wood Johnson Foundation@drdwayneproctor
Zachary NorrisElla Baker Center for Human Rights@ZachWNorris
The Messaging LandscapeTalking the Talk: Messaging that Moves
Meredith FentonFenton Communications@meredithfenton
Robert PerezWonder Strategies for Good@rperezzz
Amy SimonGoodwin Simon Strategic Research
Dwayne ProctorRobert Wood Johnson Foundation@drdwayneproctor
Zachary NorrisElla Baker Center for Human Rights@ZachWNorris
Upstairs BrainResponsible for decision making and planning, control over emotions and body, self-understanding, empathy and morality.
Allows for empathy which is a precursor to altruistic behavior.
Downstairs BrainThe primitive brain responsible for basic functions, innate reactions and impulses, and strong emotions.
Shuts down upstairs brain to respond to fear and focus on survival.
Your Brain on
Messaging
The Messaging LandscapeTalking the Talk: Messaging that Moves
Meredith FentonFenton Communications@meredithfenton
Robert PerezWonder Strategies for Good@rperezzz
Amy SimonGoodwin Simon Strategic Research
Dwayne ProctorRobert Wood Johnson Foundation@drdwayneproctor
Zachary NorrisElla Baker Center for Human Rights@ZachWNorris
Your Brain on
Messaging
How do you calm the downstairs brain (the amygdala)?
Familiarity calms the amygdala.
–Neuroscientist Gregory Berns
The Messaging LandscapeTalking the Talk: Messaging that Moves
Meredith FentonFenton Communications@meredithfenton
Robert PerezWonder Strategies for Good@rperezzz
Amy SimonGoodwin Simon Strategic Research
Dwayne ProctorRobert Wood Johnson Foundation@drdwayneproctor
Zachary NorrisElla Baker Center for Human Rights@ZachWNorris
Neural Coupling & MirroringWe translate ideas and experiences from stories into our own ideas and experiences. We feel the same emotions as the protagonist.
DopamineWhen something emotionally charged happens in a story, your brain releases dopamine – making it easier to remember story details and with greater accuracy.
Your Brain on Stories
The Messaging LandscapeTalking the Talk: Messaging that Moves
Meredith FentonFenton Communications@meredithfenton
Robert PerezWonder Strategies for Good@rperezzz
Amy SimonGoodwin Simon Strategic Research@amyrsimon
Dwayne ProctorRobert Wood Johnson Foundation@drdwayneproctor
Zachary NorrisElla Baker Center for Human Rights@ZachWNorris
“When we read nonfiction, we read with our shields up. We are critical and skeptical. But when we are absorbed in a story, we drop our intellectual guard. We are moved emotionally, and this seems to leave us defenseless.”-Jonathan Gottschall, The Storytelling Animal
The Messaging Landscape
● Because we disagree with a belief that our audiences holds, doesn’t mean its not true for them.
● To effectively engage with them, we have to acknowledge their deeply held beliefs.
● Otherwise these beliefs become roadblocks.
● Understanding where people are coming from does not mean you agree with it.
Talking the Talk: Messaging that Moves
Meredith FentonFenton Communications@meredithfenton
Robert PerezWonder Strategies for Good@rperezzz
Amy SimonGoodwin Simon Strategic Research@amyrsimon
Dwayne ProctorRobert Wood Johnson Foundation@drdwayneproctor
Zachary NorrisElla Baker Center for Human Rights@ZachWNorris
The Messaging Landscape: Where do our values overlap?
Talking the Talk: Messaging that Moves
Meredith FentonFenton Communications@meredithfenton
Robert PerezWonder Strategies for Good@rperezzz
Amy SimonGoodwin Simon Strategic Research@amyrsimon
Dwayne ProctorRobert Wood Johnson Foundation@drdwayneproctor
Zachary NorrisElla Baker Center for Human Rights@ZachWNorris
Advocates
Civically Engaged
AmericansPolicy-makers
What the Research Teaches Us
Research Methodology
Focus Groups
8 groups hosted in May 2013
Denver, CO:White menWhite womenLatino menLatina women
Raleigh, NC:White menWhite women
Philadelphia, PA:African-American menAfrican-American women
Online Poll Sample of national adult
U.S. population, February 2014
Total: n 1209 Subgroups by self-report: White: n 895African-American: n 145Hispanic: n121Asian: n 36Other races/ethnicities: n
12
Talking the Talk: Messaging that Moves
Meredith FentonFenton Communications@meredithfenton
Robert PerezWonder Strategies for Good@rperezzz
Amy SimonGoodwin Simon Strategic Research@amyrsimon
Dwayne ProctorRobert Wood Johnson Foundation@drdwayneproctor
Zachary NorrisElla Baker Center for Human Rights@ZachWNorris
Research Findings
Increasing public support for young men of color programs.
Talking the Talk: Messaging that Moves
Meredith FentonFenton Communications@meredithfenton
Robert PerezWonder Strategies for Good@rperezzz
Amy SimonGoodwin Simon Strategic Research@amyrsimon
Dwayne ProctorRobert Wood Johnson Foundation@drdwayneproctor
Zachary NorrisElla Baker Center for Human Rights@ZachWNorris
Research Findings: Show, don’t tell.
Talking the Talk: Messaging that Moves
Meredith FentonFenton Communications@meredithfenton
Robert PerezWonder Strategies for Good@rperezzz
Amy SimonGoodwin Simon Strategic Research@amyrsimon
Dwayne ProctorRobert Wood Johnson Foundation@drdwayneproctor
Zachary NorrisElla Baker Center for Human Rights@ZachWNorris
Research FindingsTalking the Talk: Messaging that Moves
Meredith FentonFenton Communications@meredithfenton
Robert PerezWonder Strategies for Good@rperezzz
Amy SimonGoodwin Simon Strategic Research@amyrsimon
Dwayne ProctorRobert Wood Johnson Foundation@drdwayneproctor
Zachary NorrisElla Baker Center for Human Rights@ZachWNorris
Summary of Agreement/Disagreement With Statement
Please indicate if you agree or disagree with each of the following statements. Please use a scale of 0 to 10 where a 0 means you strongly disagree and a 10 means you strongly agree. You may use any number from 0 to 10.
50%
57%
43%
47%
28%
37%
35%
34%
37%
32%
0% 20% 40% 60%
Initial
Final
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Final
Non-profit programs that are well designed and well run can make a real difference in the lives of young men of color, and help to address the particular problems and challenges they often face.
Young men of color face greater poverty, education, and family challenges – including the trauma of crime, violence, and abuse - than most other young people in our nation.
Our schools need to focus on academics and should not be responsible for teaching social skills or proper behavior, which should be taught at home.
Let’s face it, if kids do not have family support at home, no intervention or support program is going to make a real difference for them.
As a nation, we should be investing tax dollars in programs that are specifically designed to address the problems and challenges often facing young men of color.
Ranked by Final Strongly Agree (8-10)
+7pts
+4pts
+9pts
-5pts
Research Findings
Survey shows encouraging results among most subgroups
Talking the Talk: Messaging that Moves
Meredith FentonFenton Communications@meredithfenton
Robert PerezWonder Strategies for Good@rperezzz
Amy SimonGoodwin Simon Strategic Research@amyrsimon
Dwayne ProctorRobert Wood Johnson Foundation@drdwayneproctor
Zachary NorrisElla Baker Center for Human Rights@ZachWNorris
Democrats/Liberals
Black Men and Women
Latino Women and Men
Conservative Men Independent
Women
Republican Women
Research Findings
Some recognize that young men of color face especially difficult challenges…
Talking the Talk: Messaging that Moves
Meredith FentonFenton Communications@meredithfenton
Robert PerezWonder Strategies for Good@rperezzz
Amy SimonGoodwin Simon Strategic Research@amyrsimon
Dwayne ProctorRobert Wood Johnson Foundation@drdwayneproctor
Zachary NorrisElla Baker Center for Human Rights@ZachWNorris
Young men of color often have a different set of circumstances that are an obstacle in reaching their potential. If there are programs out there to help them in that path, it could only benefit us as a nation.
- Latina woman
All children in difficult environments need help, but young people of color can often feel more discrimination just for their skin color.- White woman
Research Findings
… yet, explicit focus on YMOC can create pushback.
Many reject the idea of special treatment for young men of color – why help them
and not me or others?
Talking the Talk: Messaging that Moves
Meredith FentonFenton Communications@meredithfenton
Robert PerezWonder Strategies for Good@rperezzz
Amy SimonGoodwin Simon Strategic Research@amyrsimon
Dwayne ProctorRobert Wood Johnson Foundation@drdwayneproctor
Zachary NorrisElla Baker Center for Human Rights@ZachWNorris
I don't think only young men with color suffer these problems.
- Asian woman
I think it should be more focused on all races not just one.- Black woman
All kids in a bad situation should have a chance, not just young men of color.”
- White man
Research Findings: Highlighting programs that work
Talking the Talk: Messaging that Moves
Meredith FentonFenton Communications@meredithfenton
Robert PerezWonder Strategies for Good@rperezzz
Amy SimonGoodwin Simon Strategic Research@amyrsimon
Dwayne ProctorRobert Wood Johnson Foundation@drdwayneproctor
Zachary NorrisElla Baker Center for Human Rights@ZachWNorris
Research Findings: Highlighting programs that work
Talking the Talk: Messaging that Moves
Meredith FentonFenton Communications@meredithfenton
Robert PerezWonder Strategies for Good@rperezzz
Amy SimonGoodwin Simon Strategic Research@amyrsimon
Dwayne ProctorRobert Wood Johnson Foundation@drdwayneproctor
Zachary NorrisElla Baker Center for Human Rights@ZachWNorris
Research Findings: Focus on the kids
Talking the Talk: Messaging that Moves
Meredith FentonFenton Communications@meredithfenton
Robert PerezWonder Strategies for Good@rperezzz
Amy SimonGoodwin Simon Strategic Research
Dwayne ProctorRobert Wood Johnson Foundation@drdwayneproctor
Zachary NorrisElla Baker Center for Human Rights@ZachWNorris
These young men are our country’s future and need to be invested in to assure the American way of life.
-White man, Pennsylvania, age 57
Research Findings
Strong support for counseling and mentoring
Talking the Talk: Messaging that Moves
Meredith FentonFenton Communications@meredithfenton
Robert PerezWonder Strategies for Good@rperezzz
Amy SimonGoodwin Simon Strategic Research@amyrsimon
Dwayne ProctorRobert Wood Johnson Foundation@drdwayneproctor
Zachary NorrisElla Baker Center for Human Rights@ZachWNorris
Research FindingsTalking the Talk: Messaging that Moves
Meredith FentonFenton Communications@meredithfenton
Robert PerezWonder Strategies for Good@rperezzz
Amy SimonGoodwin Simon Strategic Research@amyrsimon
Dwayne ProctorRobert Wood Johnson Foundation@drdwayneproctor
Zachary NorrisElla Baker Center for Human Rights@ZachWNorris
Research Findings
Use strategic messengers who share values with your audience
Talking the Talk: Messaging that Moves
Meredith FentonFenton Communications@meredithfenton
Robert PerezWonder Strategies for Good@rperezzz
Amy SimonGoodwin Simon Strategic Research@amyrsimon
Dwayne ProctorRobert Wood Johnson Foundation@drdwayneproctor
Zachary NorrisElla Baker Center for Human Rights@ZachWNorris
Research FindingsTalking the Talk: Messaging that Moves
Meredith FentonFenton Communications@meredithfenton
Robert PerezWonder Strategies for Good@rperezzz
Amy SimonGoodwin Simon Strategic Research@amyrsimon
Dwayne ProctorRobert Wood Johnson Foundation@drdwayneproctor
Zachary NorrisElla Baker Center for Human Rights@ZachWNorris
I think the words that come to my mind are accountability, right and wrong, consequence, mentoring. I walk away thinking we used to have that. We used to have all of those things and somehow those have fallen by the wayside and I think that is why you have to have so many different solutions because we don't do that anymore. There is no consequence or accountability. I got in trouble. When I told you I was the problem kid, I got in trouble. I knew I was in trouble and I don't know that that happens now. – Latino man
Accountability and Responsibility are key
Research Findings
People believe deeply in the importance of family.
Talking the Talk: Messaging that Moves
Meredith FentonFenton Communications@meredithfenton
Robert PerezWonder Strategies for Good@rperezzz
Amy SimonGoodwin Simon Strategic Research@amyrsimon
Dwayne ProctorRobert Wood Johnson Foundation@drdwayneproctor
Zachary NorrisElla Baker Center for Human Rights@ZachWNorris
A lot of the problems can be solved. It starts with the community and first of all the family. The parents need to step in. Don't let someone else try to parent your child.
- Black manIt is a truth that the support
of family is necessary and just creating programs is not going to help.
- Asian woman
Case Studies
Robert Wood Johnson Foundation: Expanding the Conversation about Childhood Obesity
Talking the Talk: Messaging that Moves
Meredith FentonFenton Communications@meredithfenton
Robert PerezWonder Strategies for Good@rperezzz
Amy SimonGoodwin Simon Strategic Research@amyrsimon
Dwayne ProctorRobert Wood Johnson Foundation@drdwayneproctor
Zachary NorrisElla Baker Center for Human Rights@ZachWNorris
Robert Wood Johnson Foundation: Expanding the Conversation about Childhood Obesity
Talking the Talk: Messaging that Moves
Meredith FentonFenton Communications@meredithfenton
Robert PerezWonder Strategies for Good@rperezzz
Amy SimonGoodwin Simon Strategic Research@amyrsimon
Dwayne ProctorRobert Wood Johnson Foundation@drdwayneproctor
Zachary NorrisElla Baker Center for Human Rights@ZachWNorris
Robert Wood Johnson Foundation: Expanding the Conversation about Childhood Obesity
Talking the Talk: Messaging that Moves
Meredith FentonFenton Communications@meredithfenton
Robert PerezWonder Strategies for Good@rperezzz
Amy SimonGoodwin Simon Strategic Research@amyrsimon
Dwayne ProctorRobert Wood Johnson Foundation@drdwayneproctor
Zachary NorrisElla Baker Center for Human Rights@ZachWNorris
Ella Baker Center:Advocating for Incarcerated Youth
Talking the Talk: Messaging that Moves
Meredith FentonFenton Communications@meredithfenton
Robert PerezWonder Strategies for Good@rperezzz
Amy SimonGoodwin Simon Strategic Research@amyrsimon
Dwayne ProctorRobert Wood Johnson Foundation@drdwayneproctor
Zachary NorrisElla Baker Center for Human Rights@ZachWNorris
Ella Baker Center:Advocating for Incarcerated Youth
Talking the Talk: Messaging that Moves
Meredith FentonFenton Communications@meredithfenton
Robert PerezWonder Strategies for Good@rperezzz
Amy SimonGoodwin Simon Strategic Research@amyrsimon
Dwayne ProctorRobert Wood Johnson Foundation@drdwayneproctor
Zachary NorrisElla Baker Center for Human Rights@ZachWNorris
Ella Baker Center:Advocating for Incarcerated Youth
Talking the Talk: Messaging that Moves
Meredith FentonFenton Communications@meredithfenton
Robert PerezWonder Strategies for Good@rperezzz
Amy SimonGoodwin Simon Strategic Research@amyrsimon
Dwayne ProctorRobert Wood Johnson Foundation@drdwayneproctor
Zachary NorrisElla Baker Center for Human Rights@ZachWNorris
Questions?
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