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Technical Committee on Recreational Vehicles (REC-AAA)
M E M O R A N D U M
DATE: September 3, 2015
TO: Principal and Alternate Members of the Technical Committee on Recreational
Vehicles (REC-AAA)
FROM: Chad Duffy, NFPA Staff Liaison
Office: (617) 984-7262 Email: [email protected]
SUBJECT: AGENDA – NFPA 1192/1194 First Draft Meeting (Annual 2017)
Enclosed is the agenda for the First Draft meeting for NFPA 1192/1194, Standard on the Installation of Recreational Vehicles and Standard for Recreational Vehicle Parks and
Campgrounds, which will be held at the Hilton Orlando Lake Buena Vista, FL 8:00am to
5:00pm ET on Tuesday September 22, 2015, Wednesday, September 23, 2015, and
Thursday September 24, 2015. Please submit requests for additional agenda items to the chair at least seven days prior to the
meeting, and notify the chair and staff liaison as soon as possible if you plan to introduce any first revisions at the meeting.
All NFPA Technical Committee meetings are open to the public. Please contact me for information on attending a meeting as a guest. Read NFPA's Regulations Governing the
Development of NFPA Standards (Section 3.3.3.3) for further information.
Additional Meeting Information:
See the Meeting Notice on either of the Document Information Pages (www.nfpa.org/1192next or www.nfpa.org/1194next) for meeting location details. If you have any questions, please feel
free to contact Elena Carroll, Project Administrator at 617-984-7952 or by email [email protected].
C. Standards Administration
Technical Committee on Recreational Vehicles (REC-AAA) NFPA 1192/1194 First Draft Meeting (Annual 2017)
Tuesday, Sept.22, 2015, Wednesday, Sept. 23, 2015,
and Thursday Sept. 24, 2015, 8:00am – 5:00pm ET
Hilton Orlando Lake Buena Vista
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AGENDA
Tuesday, September 22, 2015
1. Call to Order – 8:00 AM
2. Introductions and Attendance
3. Review Agenda
4. NFPA Staff Liaison Presentation and Review of Key Dates in Current Cycle
5. Chairman Comments
6. Approval of Previous Meeting Minutes
7. FPRF presentation
8. Act on Public Input for NFPA 1192
9. Adjourn - TBD
Wednesday, September 23, 2015
1. Call to Order – 8:00 AM
2. Act on Public Input for NFPA 1192/1194
3. Adjourn – TBD
Thursday, September 24, 2015
1. Call to Order – 8:00 AM
2. Complete Action on Public Input for NFPA 1192/1194
3. New business
4. Adjourn Meeting – TBD
Please submit requests for additional agenda items to the chair at least seven days prior to
the meeting.
Please notify the chair and staff liaison as soon as possible if you plan to introduce any
committee input at the meeting.
Technical Committee on Recreational Vehicles (REC-AAA) NFPA 1192/1194 First Draft Meeting (Annual 2017)
Tuesday, Sept.22, 2015, Wednesday, Sept. 23, 2015, and Thursday Sept. 24, 2015, 8:00am – 5:00pm ET
Hilton Orlando Lake Buena Vista
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Key Dates for the Annual 2017 Revision Cycle
Proposal Closing Date July 6, 2015
Final Date for First Draft Meeting December 14, 2015
Posting of First Draft and TC Ballot February 1, 2016
Ballots Returned By February 22, 2016
Post Final First Draft March 7, 2016
Comment Closing Date May 16, 2016
Final Date for Second Draft Meeting October 31, 2016
Posting of Second Draft and TC Ballot December 12, 2016
Ballots Returned By January 2, 2017
Posting Final Second Draft January 16, 2017
Closing Date for Notice of Intent to Make a Motion (NITMAM) February 20, 2017
Issuance of Consent Document (No NITMAMs) May 12, 2017
NFPA Annual Meeting June 4-7, 2017
Issuance of Document with NITMAM August 10, 2017
Technical Committee deadlines are in bold.
Technical Committee on Recreational Vehicles (REC-AAA) NFPA 1192/1194 First Draft Meeting (Annual 2017)
Tuesday, Sept.22, 2015, Wednesday, Sept. 23, 2015, and Thursday Sept. 24, 2015, 8:00am – 5:00pm ET
Hilton Orlando Lake Buena Vista
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Meeting Preparation Committee members are strongly encouraged to review the published input prior to the meeting
and to be prepared to act on each item.
Handout materials should be submitted to the chair at least seven days prior to the meeting.
Only one posting of the input will be made; it will be arranged in section/order and will be pre-
numbered. This will be posted to the NFPA Document information pages located at
www.nfpa.org/1192 and www.nfpa.org/1194. If you have trouble accessing the website please
contact Elena Carroll at [email protected].
Mandatory Materials:
Last edition of the standard
Meeting agenda
Public input/comments
Committee Officers' Guide (Chairs)
Roberts’ Rules of Order (Chairs; An abbreviated version may be found in the
Committee Officer’s Guide)
Optional Materials:
NFPA Annual Directory
NFPA Manual of Style
Prepared committee input/comments (If applicable)
Regulations and Guiding Documents All committee members are expected to behave in accordance with the Guide for the Conduct of
Participants in the NFPA Codes and Standards Development Process.
All actions during and following the committee meetings will be governed in accordance with
the Regulations Governing the Development of NFPA Standards. Failure to comply with these
regulations could result in challenges to the standards-making process. A successful challenge on
procedural grounds could prevent or delay publication of the document.
The style of the document must comply with the Manual of Style for NFPA Technical
Committee Documents.
Technical Committee on Recreational Vehicles (REC-AAA) NFPA 1192/1194 First Draft Meeting (Annual 2017)
Tuesday, Sept.22, 2015, Wednesday, Sept. 23, 2015, and Thursday Sept. 24, 2015, 8:00am – 5:00pm ET
Hilton Orlando Lake Buena Vista
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General Procedures for Meetings
Use of tape recorders or other means capable of producing verbatim transcriptions of any
NFPA Committee Meeting is not permitted.
Attendance at all NFPA Committee Meetings is open. All guests must sign in and
identify their affiliation.
Participation in NFPA Committee Meetings is generally limited to committee members
and NFPA staff. Participation by guests is limited to individuals, who have received prior
approval from the chair to address the committee on a particular item, or who wish to
speak regarding public input or comments that they submitted.
The chairman reserves the right to limit the amount of time available for any
presentation.
No interviews will be allowed in the meeting room at any time, including breaks.
All attendees are reminded that formal votes of committee members will be secured by
letter ballot. Voting at this meeting is used to establish a sense of agreement, but only the
results of the formal letter ballot will determine the official action of the committee.
Note to Special Experts: Particular attention is called to Section 3.3(e) of the NFPA
Guide for the Conduct of Participants in the NFPA Codes and Standards Development
Process in the NFPA Directory. This section requires committee members to declare any
interest they may represent, other than their official designation as shown on the
committee roster. This typically occurs when a special expert is retained by and
represents another interest category on a particular subject. If such a situation exists on a
specific issue or issues, the committee member shall declare those interests to the
committee and refrain from voting on any action relating to those issues.
Smoking is not permitted at NFPA Committee Meetings.
NEW PROCESS ACTIONS AND MOTIONS
Possible Action #1: Resolve PI (no change to section)
Action Required Sample motion
Make a statement to resolve a PI I move to resolve PI # with the following
statement . . .
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Action Required Sample motion
Step 1 Create a First revision based one or more
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them together
Step 1 Create a First Revision I move to create a First Revision as follows . . .
Step 2 Generate a statement (substantiation)
Possible Action 3: Create Committee input
Step 1 Create proposed revision for solicitation
of public comments I move to create CI with a proposed revision to X
as follows . . .
Step 2 Generate a statement to explain the
intent and why the Committee is seeking public comment
Attachment #1:
Previous Meeting Minutes
March 26‐27, 2013, Meeting Minutes
Technical Committee on Recreational Vehicles (REC‐AAA)
Embassy Suites Phoenix – Tempe
1. Call to Order March 26th, 8:00 AM local time.
2. Introductions and Attendance
a. Harvey, John Chair ‐ Washington State Department of Labor b. Hopkins, Bruce Secretary ‐ Recreation Vehicle Industry Association c. Bloom, Christopher ‐ Principal ‐ CJB Fire Consultants d. Christner, Jeffrey ‐ Principal ‐ Forest River, Inc. e. Cole, Garry ‐ Principal ‐ National Association of RV Parks f. Colwell, Jeff ‐ Principal ‐ Exponent, Inc. g. Foster, Dean ‐ Principal ‐ Thetford Corporation h. Habib, Khaled ‐ Principal ‐ Canadian Standards Association i. Hoover, Jerome ‐ Principal ‐ Navistar RV LLC j. Jordal, Dale ‐ Principal ‐ Winnebago Industries, Inc. k. Kitchens, John ‐ Principal ‐ Los Angeles City Fire Dept. l. Luttich, Mark ‐ Principal ‐ Nebraska Public Service Commission m. Mihalick, David ‐ Principal ‐ Thor Industries Inc. n. Mulvaney, Doug ‐ Principal ‐ Kampgrounds of America o. Sinclair, Paul ‐ Principal ‐ Recreation Vehicle Dealers Association of Canada (on‐line) p. Staves, Homer ‐ Principal ‐ Staves Consulting Inc. q. Taylor, Monte ‐ Principal ‐ State of Oregon r. Kleinknight, Joe ‐ Alternate ‐ Keystone RV Company s. Perkins, Kent ‐ Alternate ‐ Recreation Vehicle Industry Association t. Staves, Neil ‐ Alternate ‐ Staves Consulting u. Duffy, Chad ‐ Staff Liaison ‐ National Fire Protection Association
3. Review of Agenda – Chairman John Harvey reviewed the agenda in detail to be sure all
present were aware of the task before the committee over the next two days.
4. NFPA Staff Liaison Presentation and Review of Key Dates in Current Cycle
a. Staff person Chad Duffy reviewed the rules and actions of NFPA
i. Items covered included, but were not limited to:
1. Location of exits in the event of fire or other emergency
2. No smoking policy
3. No use of recorders
4. Guests are welcome, but allowed to speak only if recognized by
the chair
5. Actions of the Committee
a. Must make motions and seconds to have discussion
b. If debates get long, there can be a motion to call for the
question
c. All motions and remarks need to be made through the
chair
d. Chair is to ensure the procedures of Robert’s Rules are
followed
6. The Committee make‐up, according to interests, was reviewed
7. The code making process was reviewed
8. Legal review was made
a. Including anti‐trust
b. Patents
c. Use of task groups
9. Committee Principals should always encourage their alternates to
be involved and to return all letter ballots
5. Chairman’s Comments
a. Chairman John Harvey reported this would be his last meeting as he was retiring
at the end of the year (2013). It was asked if he would be willing to continuing
serving until the 2014 edition of the 1192 and 1194 standards were completed,
in the event that a NITMAM or other action was raised that would require the
involvement of the Chair. Mr. Harvey agreed to this request.
b. No other comments were made in the Chairman’s report
6. Approval of the Previous Minutes
a. The minutes were approved upon a motion and second, as submitted, without
change.
7. Act on Public Comments for NFPA 1192
a. Secretary Bruce Hopkins mentioned that the minutes of the meeting would not
reflect any of the actions regarding resolution of the comments as these would
be reflected in the generation of the second revision.
8. Generate Second Revision of NFPA 1192
a. This is a NFPA staff function and nothing herein will be added to the minutes
9. Act on Public Comments for NFPA 1194
a. Secretary Bruce Hopkins mentioned that the minutes of the meeting would not
reflect any of the actions regarding resolution of the comments as these would
be reflected in the generation of the second revision
10. Generate Second Revision of NFPA 1194
a. This is a NFPA staff function and nothing herein will be added to the minutes
11. Other Comments
a. Referenced standards applicable to various sections of the 1192 and 1194
Standards were discussed. It has generally been the thought of most committee
members that NFPA editorial staff took it upon themselves to update these
referenced documents as needed. Chad Duffy stated this is not the case and that
updates need to remain the responsibility of the committee. In the future if
updates are needed, proposals should be developed and submitted just as any
other proposed change to ensure the committee maintains this responsibility.
b. One member stated that in his work, some authorities had recently been trying
to subject RVs to NFPA 302. This does not seem to be appropriate since this
standard applies only to pleasure and commercial motor craft and others should
take care that similar situations do hot happen to them. No action was
requested; just a point of caution to all.
12. Next Meeting
a. No additional meetings are anticipated at this time. It is possible the next
meeting will not be conducted until required under the fall 2016 Revision cycle.
13. Adjourn Meeting
a. Meeting was adjourned at 4:45 on March 26th.
Meeting Minutes
April 19, 2013, Telephone Conference Call 2:00 EDST
Technical Committee on Recreational Vehicles (REC‐AAA)
1. Call to Order 2:00 EDST
2. Attendance
Members:
a. Harvey, John Chair ‐ Washington State Department of Labor b. Hopkins, Bruce Secretary ‐ Recreation Vehicle Industry Association c. Christner, Jeffrey ‐ Principal ‐ Forest River, Inc. d. Cole, Garry ‐ Principal ‐ National Association of RV Parks e. Hoover, Jerome ‐ Principal ‐ Navistar RV LLC f. Jordal, Dale ‐ Principal ‐ Winnebago Industries, Inc. g. Kitchens, John ‐ Principal ‐ Los Angeles City Fire Dept. h. Luttich, Mark ‐ Principal ‐ Nebraska Public Service Commission i. Mihalick, David ‐ Principal ‐ Thor Industries Inc. j. Mulvaney, Doug ‐ Principal ‐ Kampgrounds of America k. Swiecicki, Bruce ‐ Principal ‐ National Propane Gas Association l. Woodward, Leslie ‐ Principal ‐ Fairview Fittings & Manufacturing Inc. m. Perkins, Kent ‐ Alternate ‐ Recreation Vehicle Industry Association n. Duffy, Chad ‐ Staff Liaison ‐ National Fire Protection Association
Guests:
o. Chris Greer – Lippert Components p. Zack Inbody – Lippert Components
3. Review of SR No. 10 Protruding Components –
a. A decision was made and agreed upon by motion and second. This change will be officially recorded in the second revision of 1192.
4. Adjourn meeting a. Meeting adjourned at 2:55 EDST.
Meeting Minutes
April 19, 2013, Telephone Conference Call 2:00 EDST
Technical Committee on Recreational Vehicles (REC‐AAA)
1. Call to Order 2:00 EDST
2. Attendance
Members:
a. Harvey, John Chair ‐ Washington State Department of Labor b. Hopkins, Bruce Secretary ‐ Recreation Vehicle Industry Association c. Christner, Jeffrey ‐ Principal ‐ Forest River, Inc. d. Cole, Garry ‐ Principal ‐ National Association of RV Parks e. Hoover, Jerome ‐ Principal ‐ Navistar RV LLC f. Jordal, Dale ‐ Principal ‐ Winnebago Industries, Inc. g. Kitchens, John ‐ Principal ‐ Los Angeles City Fire Dept. h. Luttich, Mark ‐ Principal ‐ Nebraska Public Service Commission i. Mihalick, David ‐ Principal ‐ Thor Industries Inc. j. Mulvaney, Doug ‐ Principal ‐ Kampgrounds of America k. Swiecicki, Bruce ‐ Principal ‐ National Propane Gas Association l. Woodward, Leslie ‐ Principal ‐ Fairview Fittings & Manufacturing Inc. m. Perkins, Kent ‐ Alternate ‐ Recreation Vehicle Industry Association n. Duffy, Chad ‐ Staff Liaison ‐ National Fire Protection Association
Guests:
o. Chris Greer – Lippert Components p. Zack Inbody – Lippert Components
3. Review of SR No. 10 Protruding Components –
a. A decision was made and agreed upon by motion and second. This change will be officially recorded in the second revision of 1192.
4. Adjourn meeting a. Meeting adjourned at 2:55 EDST.
Attachment #3: Public Input
Public Input No. 17-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Global Input ]
Throughout standard remove references to the following and replace with the following:
(1) ANSI/ASME and replace with ASME.
(2) ANSI/UL and replace with UL.
(3) ANSI/ASME A112.19.2 Vitreous China Plumbing Fixtures and Hydraulic Requirements for WaterClosets and Urnials and replace with ASME A112.19.2 Ceramic Plumbing Fixtures.
(4) American Society of Mechanical Engineers and replace with ASME Internataional.
(5) ANSI/IAPMO Z124.4, Plastic Water Closet Bowls and Tanks and replace with IAPMO Z124 PlasticPlumbing Fixtures.
(6)The following SAE standards need updated references:
(a) SAE J30R7, Fuel and Oil Hoses, Standard and replace with SAE J30, Fuel and Oil Hoses.
(b) SAE J476 Dryseal Pipe Threads, Standard and replace with SAE J476 Dryseal Pipe Threads(Stabilized Type).
(c) SAE J533 Flare for Tubing, Standard and replace with SAE J533 Flares for Tubing.
(d) SAE J684 Trailer Couplings, Hitches, and Safety Chains – Automotive Type, Standard andreplace with SAE J684 Trailer Couplings, Hitches, and Safety Chains – Automotive Type.
5. SAE J1128 Low Voltage Cable and replace with Low Voltage Primary Cable.
(7) Society of Automotive Engineers and replace with SAE International.
(8) ANSI SI 10 Standard for Use of the International System of Units (SI): The Modern Metric System andreplace with IEEE SI 10 American National Standard for Metric Practice.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
The referenced revisions correlate with PI-15 and PI-16.
Related Public Inputs for This Document
Related Input Relationship
Public Input No. 15-NFPA 1192-2015[Section No. 2.3]
Referenced current SDO names, addresses, standard names,numbers, and editions.
Public Input No. 16-NFPA 1192-2015[Section No. D.1.2]
Referenced current SDO names, addresses, standard names,numbers, and editions.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Aaron Adamczyk
Organization: [ Not Specified ]
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Fri Feb 13 21:13:26 EST 2015
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Public Input No. 15-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 2.3 ]
2.3 Other Publications.
2.3.1 ANSI Publications.
American National Standards Institute, Inc., 25 West 43rd Street, 4th Floor, New York, NY 10036.
ANSI B1.20.1, Pipe Threads, General Purpose (Inch), 2001 2013 .
ANSI Z97.1, Glazing Materials Used in Buildings, Safety Performance Specifications and Methods of Test,1994 2009, 2010 errata .
ANSI Z535, Safety Alerting Standard Series, 2011.
2.3.2 ASME Publications.
American Society of Mechanical Engineers, Three ASME Internationl , Two Park Avenue, New York, NY10016-5990.
ASME Boiler and Pressure Vessel Code, Section VIII, Division I, Rules for Construction of Unfired PressureVessels, 2004 2015 .
ANSI/ ASME A.112.19.2, Vitreous China Plumbing Fixtures and Hydraulic Requirements for Water Closetsand Urinals , 2003 Ceramic Plubing Fixtures , 2013, with Amendment 1 .
2.3.3 ASTM Publications.
ASTM International, 100 Barr Harbor Drive, P.O. Box C700, West Conshohocken, PA 19428-2959.
ASTM A53/A53M, Standard Specifications for Pipe, Steel, Black and Hot-Dipped, Zinc-Coated Welded andSeamless, 2010 2012 .
ASTM A539, Standard Specifications for Electric-Resistance Welded Coiled Steel Tubing for Gas and FuelOil Lines, 1999 (withdrawn 2004).
ASTM B88, Standard Specifications for Seamless Copper Water Tube, 2009 2014 .
ASTM B280, Specifications for Seamless Copper Tube for Air Conditioning and Refrigeration Field Service,2008 2013 .
ASTM E84, Standard Test Method for Surface Burning Characteristics of Building Materials, 2012b 2015 .
ASTM E162, Standard Test Method for Surface Flammability of Materials Using a Radiant Heat EnergySource, 2012a 2013 .
2.3.4 CAN/ULC Publications.
Underwriters Laboratories of Canada, 7 Underwriters Road, Toronto, ON, MIR 3A9, Canada.
ULC CAN /ULC- S508, Standard for the Rating and Fire Testing of Fire Extinguishers, 2004, revised 2009(including amendments 1, 2, and 3)CAN/ULC S504 Reaffirmed 2013.
ULC CAN S504 , Standard for Dry Chemical Fire Extinguishers, 2012 (including amendments 1, 2, and 3).(Same as UL 299)
2.3.5 CSA Publications.
Canadian Standards Association, 5060 Spectrum Way, Mississauga, ON, L4W 5N6, Canada.
CAN/CSA 6–19 6 . 19 , Residential Carbon Monoxide Alarming Devices, 2001 (reaffirmed 2006) , Revised2011 .
CSA B51, Boiler, Pressure Vessel, and Pressure Piping Code, 2009 2014 .
CAN3-D313, Trailer Running Gear, 1985 (reaffirmed 2012).
2.3.6 IAPMO Publications.
International Association of Plumbing and Mechanical Officials, 4755 E. Philadelphia Street, Ontario, CA91761.
ANSI/ IAPMO Z124.4 , Plastic Water Closet Bowls and Tanks, 2006. Plumbing Fixtures , 2012 . (SameCSA B45.5)
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2.3.7 NATM Publications.
National Association of Trailer Manufacturers (NATM), 1320 2420 SW Topeka Blvd 17th St . , Topeka, KS66612-1817 66604 .
ANSI TSIC-1 Recommended Practice, Process Controls for Assembly of Wheels on Trailers, 2008.
2.3.8 RVIA Publications.
Recreation Vehicle Industry Association, 1896 Preston White Drive, Reston, VA 20191.
ANSI/RVIA, Low Voltage Systems in Conversion and Recreational Vehicles, 2011.
2.3.9 SAE Publications.
Society of Automotive Engineers SAE International , 400 Commonwealth Drive, Warrendale, PA 15096.
SAE J30R7 J30 , Fuel and Oil Hoses, Standard, 1998 2012 .
SAE J476, Dryseal Pipe Threads (Stabilized Type) , 1961 2013 .
SAE J533, Flares for Tubing, Standard, 1999 2007 .
SAE J684, Trailer Couplings, Hitches, and Safety Chains — Automotive Type, Standard 2005 ,2005 Reaffirmed 2014 .
SAE J1128, Low Voltage Primary Cable, 2012 2013 .
SAE J1508, Hose Clamp Specifications, 1997 2009 .
SAE J2638, Fifth Wheel and Gooseneck Attachment Performance Up to 13 608/Kg (30 000/Lb) TrailerGvw, 2003.
SAE Handbook, 2007.
2.3.10 TC Publications.
Transport Canada, 330 Sparks Street, Ottawa, ON K1A 0N5, Canada.
TSD 108, Motor Vehicle Regulations, Lighting System and Retroreflective Devices, 2007.
2.3.11 UL Publications.
Underwriters Laboratories Inc., 333 Pfingsten Road, Northbrook, IL 60062-2096.
ANSI/ UL 21, Standard for LP-Gas Hose, 2007, revised 2010 2014 .
ANSI/ UL 94, Standard for Safety Test for Flammability of Plastic Materials for Parts in Devices andAppliances, 1996 2013 , revised2012 Revised 2014 .
ANSI/ UL 125, Standard for Flow Control Valves for Anhydrous Ammonia and LP-Gas, 2009, revised 20112014 .
ANSI/ UL 144, Standard for LP-Gas Regulators, 2012, Revised 2014 .
ANSI/ UL 181, Standard for Safety Factory-Made Air Ducts and Air Connectors, 2005, revised 2008 2013 .
ANSI/ UL 217, Standard for Single and Multiple Station Smoke Alarms, 2006, revised2012 revised 2012 .
ANSI/ UL 299, Dry Chemical Extinguishers, 2012.
ANSI/ UL 330, Standard for Hose and Hose Assemblies for Dispensing Flammable Liquids, 2009, revised2011 2013 .
ANSI/ UL 484, Standard for Room Air Conditioners, 2007 2014 , revised2012 revised 2014 .
ANSI/ UL 569, Standard for Pigtails and Flexible Hose Connectors for LP-Gas, 1995, revised 2009 2013 .
ANSI/ UL 723, Test of Surface Burning Characteristics of Building Materials, 2008, revised 2010 2013 .
ANSI/ UL 842, Standard for Valves for Flammable Liquids, 2007, revised 2011 2014 .
ANSI/ UL 1484, Standard for Residential Gas Detectors, 2000, revised 2010 2013 .
ANSI/ UL 2034, Standard for Single and Multiple Station Carbon Monoxide Detectors, 2008, revised 2009.
ANSI/ UL 2061, Standard for Adapters and Cylinder Connection Devices for Portable LP-Gas CylinderAssemblies, 2008, revised 2012 2014 .
ANSI/ UL 2227, Standard for Overfilling Prevention Devices, 2007, revised 2009 2013 .
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2.3.12 U.S. Government Publications.
U.S. Government Printing Government Publishing Office, Washington, DC 20402.
Title 16, Code of Federal Regulations, Part 1201, “Safety Standard for Architectural Glazing Materials.”
Title 49, Code of Federal Regulations, Transportation, “Specifications for LP-Gas Containers.”
Title 49, Code of Federal Regulations, Part 393.67, “Liquid Fuel Tanks.”
Title 49, Code of Federal Regulations, Part 571.08, Federal Motor Vehicle Standard, “Lamps, ReflectiveDevices, and Associated Equipment.”
Title 49, Code of Federal Regulations, Part 571.302, paragraphs S4.3 and S5, Federal Motor Vehicle SafetyStandard No. 302, “Flammability of Interior Materials.”
2.3.13 Other Publications.
Technical Standards Document No. 108, Revision 4 — Lamps, Reflective Devices, and AssociatedEquipment, 2007.
Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary, 11th edition, Merriam-Webster, Inc., Springfield, MA, 2003.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Referenced current SDO names, addresses, standard names, numbers, and editions.
Related Public Inputs for This Document
Related Input Relationship
Public Input No. 16-NFPA 1192-2015 [Section No. D.1.2]
Public Input No. 17-NFPA 1192-2015 [Global Input]
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Aaron Adamczyk
Organization: [ Not Specified ]
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Fri Feb 13 19:11:18 EST 2015
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2.3.3 ASTM Publications.
ASTM International, 100 Barr Harbor Drive, P.O. Box C700, West Conshohocken, PA 19428-2959.
ASTM A53/A53M, Standard Specifications for Pipe, Steel, Black and Hot-Dipped, Zinc-Coated Welded andSeamless, 2010.
ASTM A539, Standard Specifications for Electric-Resistance Welded Coiled Steel Tubing for Gas and FuelOil Lines, 1999 (withdrawn 2004).
ASTM B88, Standard Specifications for Seamless Copper Water Tube, 2009.
ASTM B280, Specifications for Seamless Copper Tube for Air Conditioning and Refrigeration Field Service,2008.
ASTM E84, Standard Test Method for Surface Burning Characteristics of Building Materials, 2012b 2015a .
ASTM E162, Standard Test Method for Surface Flammability of Materials Using a Radiant Heat EnergySource, 2012a 2013 .
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
date updates
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: MARCELO HIRSCHLER
Organization: GBH INTERNATIONAL
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Tue Jun 30 16:23:14 EDT 2015
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2.3.4 CAN/ULC Publications.
Underwriters Laboratories of Canada, 7 Underwriters Road, Toronto, ON, MIR 3A9, Canada.
CAN/ULC-S508, Standard for the Rating and Fire Testing of Fire Extinguishers, 2004, revised 2009revised 2013 (including amendments 1, 2, and 3)
CAN/ULC S504, Standard for Dry Chemical Fire Extinguishers, 2012 (including amendments 1, 2, and 3).
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
The proposed changes reflect the revised UL Standard date.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: RONALD FARR
Organization: UL LLC
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Mon Jun 15 10:18:22 EDT 2015
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2.3.8 RVIA Publications.
Recreation Vehicle Industry Association, 1896 Preston White Drive, Reston, VA 20191.
ANSI/RVIA LV , Low Voltage Systems in Conversion and Recreational Vehicles, 2011 2014 .
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
The ANS designation on this standard was changed to LV for the 2014 edition.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: KENT PERKINS
Organization: RECREATION VEHICLE INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Tue Jun 30 09:20:48 EDT 2015
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2.3.11 UL Publications.
Underwriters Laboratories Inc., 333 Pfingsten Road, Northbrook, IL 60062-2096.
ANSI/UL 21, Standard for LP-Gas Hose, 2007, revised 2010.
ANSI/UL 94, Standard for Safety Test for Flammability of Plastic Materials for Parts in Devices andAppliances, 1996, revised2012.
ANSI/UL 125, Standard for Flow Control Valves for Anhydrous Ammonia and LP-Gas, 2009, revised 2011.
ANSI/UL 144, Standard for LP-Gas Regulators, 2012.
ANSI/UL 181, Standard for Safety Factory-Made Air Ducts and Air Connectors, 2005, revised 2008.
ANSI/UL 217, Standard for Single and Multiple Station Smoke Alarms, 2006, revised2012.
ANSI/UL 299, Dry Chemical Extinguishers, 2012.
ANSI/UL 330, Standard for Hose and Hose Assemblies for Dispensing Flammable Liquids, 2009, revised2011.
ANSI/UL 484, Standard for Room Air Conditioners, 2007, revised2012.
ANSI/UL 569, Standard for Pigtails and Flexible Hose Connectors for LP-Gas, 1995, revised 2009.
ANSI/UL 723, Test of Surface Burning Characteristics of Building Materials, 2008, revised 2010.
ANSI/UL 842 2586 , Standard for Valves for Flammable Liquids , 2007, revised 2011. Hose NozzleValves, 2011
ANSI/UL 1484, Standard for Residential Gas Detectors, 2000, revised 2010.
ANSI/UL 2034, Standard for Single and Multiple Station Carbon Monoxide Detectors, 2008, revised 2009.
ANSI/UL 2061, Standard for Adapters and Cylinder Connection Devices for Portable LP-Gas CylinderAssemblies, 2008, revised 2012.
ANSI/UL 2227, Standard for Overfilling Prevention Devices, 2007, revised 2009.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
UL 842 covered many different types of valves including Hose Nozzle Valves. In 2011 the references and tests for hose nozzles valves were removed from UL 842 and placed into UL 2586 with an effective date of April 30, 2015.
Submitter Information Verification
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Organization: UNDERWRITERS LABORATORIES INC
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Public Input No. 24-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 2.3.11 ]
2.3.11 UL Publications.
Underwriters Laboratories Inc., 333 Pfingsten Road, Northbrook, IL 60062-2096.
ANSI/UL 21, Standard for LP-Gas Hose, 2007, revised 2010 2014 .
ANSI/UL 94, Standard for Safety Test for Flammability of Plastic Materials for Parts in Devices andAppliances, 1996, revised2012 revised 2015 .
ANSI/UL 125, Standard for Flow Control Valves for Anhydrous Ammonia and LP-Gas, 2009, revised2011 2015 .
ANSI/UL 144, Standard for LP-Gas Regulators, 2012, revised 2014 .
ANSI/UL 181, Standard for Safety Factory-Made Air Ducts and Air Connectors, 2005, revised 2008 2013 .
ANSI/UL 217, Standard for Single and Multiple Station Smoke Alarms, 2006, revised2012 revised 2015 .
ANSI/UL 299, Dry Chemical Extinguishers, 2012.
ANSI/UL 330, Standard for Hose and Hose Assemblies for Dispensing Flammable Liquids, 2009, revised2011 2013 .
ANSI/UL 484, Standard for Room Air Conditioners, 2007, revised2012 revised 2014 .
ANSI/UL 569, Standard for Pigtails and Flexible Hose Connectors for LP-Gas, 1995, revised 2009 2013 .
ANSI/UL 723, Test of Surface Burning Characteristics of Building Materials, 2008, revised 2010 2013 .
ANSI/UL 842, Standard for Valves for Flammable Liquids, 2007, revised 2011 2015 .
ANSI/UL 1484, Standard for Residential Gas Detectors, 2000, revised 2010 2013 .
ANSI/UL 2034, Standard for Single and Multiple Station Carbon Monoxide Detectors, 2008, revised 2009.
ANSI/UL 2061, Standard for Adapters and Cylinder Connection Devices for Portable LP-Gas CylinderAssemblies, 2008, revised 2012 2014 .
ANSI/UL 2227, Standard for Overfilling Prevention Devices, 2007, revised 2009 2014 .
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
The proposed changes are revised updates to the UL Standards
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Submitter Full Name: RONALD FARR
Organization: UL LLC
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Public Input No. 77-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 2.3.12 ]
2.3.12 U.S. Government Publications.
U.S. Government Printing Office, Washington, DC 20402.
Title 16, Code of Federal Regulations, Part 1201, “Safety Standard for Architectural Glazing Materials.”
Title 49, Code of Federal Regulations, Transportation, “Specifications for LP-Gas Containers.”
Title 49, Code of Federal Regulations, Part 393.67, “Liquid Fuel Tanks.”
Title 49, Code of Federal Regulations, Part 571.08, Federal Motor Vehicle Standard, “Lamps, ReflectiveDevices, and Associated Equipment.”
Title 49, Code of Federal Regulations, Part 571.302, paragraphs S4.3 and S5, Federal Motor VehicleSafety Standard No. 302, “Flammability of Interior Materials.”
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Reference to the paragraphs is unnecessary. Section S4.3 already references that the test must be conducted in accordance with section S5.
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Submitter Full Name: MARCELO HIRSCHLER
Organization: GBH INTERNATIONAL
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Public Input No. 36-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 3.3.50 ]
3.3.50* Recreational Vehicle (RV).
A vehicular-type unit that A vehicle or slide in camper that is primarily designed as temporary livingquarters for recreational, camping, or seasonal use; has its own motive power or is mounted on or towed byanother vehicle; is regulated by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration as a vehicle or vehicleequipment; does not require a special highway use permit for operation on the highways; and can be easilytransported and set up on a daily basis by an individual.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
The phrase “vehicular-type unit” is confusing. By removing the existing phrase and replacing it with the new phrase “vehicle or slide in camper” better clarifies the intent of this definition. An RV is a “vehicle” as defined by DOT NHTSA CFR 49 Part 571.3(b). Recreation vehicle trailer means a trailer, except a trailer designed primarily to transport cargo, designed to be drawn by a vehicle with motive power by means of a bumper, frame or fifth wheel hitch and designed to provide temporary residential accommodations, as evidenced by the presence of at least four of the following facilities: cooking; refrigeration or ice box; self-contained toilet; heating and/or air conditioning; a potable water supply system including a faucet and a sink; and a separate 110-125 volt electrical power supply and/or propane. “Recreation vehicle trailer” includes trailers used for personal purposes, commonly known as “sport utility RVs” or “toy haulers,” which usually have spacious rather than incidental living quarters and provide a cargo area for smaller items for personal use such as motorcycles, mountain bikes, all terrain vehicles (ATVs), snowmobiles, canoes or other types of recreational gear. The term “slide in camper” is being included to ensure that “truck campers” are addressed as these are not vehicles but slide-in campers under DOT 49 CFR Part 571.103(d).Slide-in Camper means a camper having a roof, floor, and sides, designed to be mounted on and removable from the cargo area of a truck by the user.
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Submitter Full Name: KENT PERKINS
Organization: RECREATION VEHICLE INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION
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Public Input No. 72-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 3.3.55.1 ]
3.3.55.1 Flush Toilet (Water Closet).
A toilet that conforms with ANSI/ASME A112.19.2 or ANSI/IAPMO Z124.4.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Definitions shall not contain requirements or references to codes or standards, in accordance with the NFPA Manual of Style. It is proposed that this be made into a requirement in section 7.2.3.
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Public Input No. 66-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 4.4 ]
4.4 Electrical Requirements.
All electrical installations, systems, and equipment shall comply with Article 551, Parts I and III through VI,of NFPA 70. All low-voltage electrical installations, systems, and equipment shall comply with ANSI/RVIA12V LV.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
The ANS Designation on this Standard was changed to LV for the 2014 Edition.
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Public Input No. 26-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 5.2.21.2 ]
5.2.21.2
Propane appliances or fuel cells connected to regulated high-pressure piping systems shall comply with thefollowing:
(1) The appliance or fuel cell shall provide for a separate propane supply system or provide a means toprevent high pressure from entering the recreational vehicle's low-pressure system.
(2) The high-pressure propane system shall be located entirely on the exterior of the vehicle or in acompartment that is vaportight to the vehicle's interior and vented to the outside at or near the bottomof compartment.
(3) Warning labels, with the word “Warning” a minimum of 1⁄4 in. (6 mm) high and body text a minimum of1⁄8 in. (3 mm) high on contrasting background, shall be affixed to the appliance or appliancecompartment and at the propane source in compartment in a visible location and shall read as shownin Figure 5.2.21.2
Figure 5.2.21.2 Appliance or Appliance Compartment Warning Label.
(4) The appliance or fuel cell shall be listed for recreational vehicle use at the specified operatingpressure.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
The warning information contained in this label is needed when the appliance is being serviced and therefore should be located at the appliance or appliance compartment. Requiring this label to be located at the propane source is unnecessary.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: JEFFREY CHRISTNER
Organization: GRAND DESIGN RV LLC
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Public Input No. 35-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 5.3.18.5 ]
5.3.18.5
All piping joints in pipe runs shall be anchored within 12 in. (305 mm) of the joint. [© 2014 CSA Group]
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Delete entire paragraph..This language is not needed as all scenarios are covered by the language in 5.3.18.4. This paragraph was added last code cycle for Z240 harmonization, but is not needed because 5.3.18.4 language covers the requirements and therefore 5.3.18.5 is only confusing and redundant.
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Submitter Full Name: KENT PERKINS
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Public Input No. 37-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 5.5.3.4 ]
5.5.3.4
Except for the hinge side of a door incorporating a continuous hinge, there shall be no openings within 9 in.(230 mm) of the edge of the flue gas outlet. [© 2014 CSA Group]
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
There is no data to show this requirement is necessary. This proposal was based on a desire to harmonize with Z240, but in all the years this requirement has not been in the 1192 standard, there havebeen no reported safety issues that this requirement would prevent. Research has shown that CO concentrations quickly disperse once in the atmosphere. Also generator and mover engine exhausts areonly required to be 6” from unsealed openings, and far more CO is produced at these exhausts. And all RVs are now required to have CO detectors, so an additional protection against CO infiltration ispresent on every RV.
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Submitter Full Name: KENT PERKINS
Organization: RECREATION VEHICLE INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION
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Submittal Date: Mon Jun 29 11:02:44 EDT 2015
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Public Input No. 31-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 5.5.4.2 ]
5.5.4.2
Vehicles with fabric exterior walls shall be permitted to utilize an opening through the sidewall not morethan 15 in. (381 mm) below the highest point of that roof within 5 ft (1.5 m) of any point directly above theappliance.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
There is no known safety issue for any recreational vehicle to have an opening 15" below the ceiling or roof line of the unit rather than limit this to fabric wall vehicles.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: JEFFREY CHRISTNER
Organization: GRAND DESIGN RV LLC
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Submittal Date: Fri Jun 26 10:00:20 EDT 2015
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Public Input No. 38-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 5.6.6.5 ]
5.6.6.5
Ranges and cooktops, not including covers, shall have a vertical clearance between the cooking top andcombustible material or metal cabinets in accordance with Table 5.6.6.5 or the terms of their listings.
Table 5.6.6.5 Vertical Clearances to Combustible Material or Metal Cabinets
Type of Protection Provided
to Combustible Material or Metal Cabinets
Above Range
Top Burner
Rating
OvenBurnerRating
VerticalClearanceRequired
AboveRange Top
Btu/hr W in. mm
1. No protection provided.Any combination, number,or input
Any Any 30 762
2. 1⁄4 in. (6 mm) thick minimum insulatingmillboard covered with 28 U.S. gauge sheetmetal extending 9 in. (229 mm) beyond thesides of the range and covering the entirebottom of the material to be protectedextending over the top of the range. In lieu of28 U.S. gauge sheet metal, a hood of 28 U.S.gauge sheet metal shall be permitted to beused. Hood shall be not less than the width ofthe range and shall be centered over the rangeand cover the entire bottom of the material tobe protected.
Any combination, number,or input
Any Any 24 610
3. Range hood 28 U.S. gauge, with minimum 2in. (51 mm) vertical sides and provided with abead or flange around top of hood to provide aminimum 1⁄4 in. (6 mm) dead air space betweenhood and protected material. Hood shall be notless than the width of the range and shall coverthe entire bottom of the material to be protectedextending over the top of range.
Not more than four topburners — input not toexceed 6000 Btu/hr (1758W) each — or not more thanthree top burners — twoburners input not to exceed7000 Btu/hr (2051 W) eachand one burner input not toexceed 10,000 Btu/hr (2931W)
10,000 2931 19 1⁄2 495
Not more than four topburners — input not toexceed 9000 Btu/hr (2638W) each
24,000 7034 20 3⁄4 527
Two rear burners — inputnot to exceed 9000 Btu/hr(2638 W) each — and twofront burners — input not toexceed 12,000 Btu/hr (3517W) each
22,000 6448 23 1⁄2 597
4. Same as No. 3, except no dead air spaceclearance provided.
Not more than four burners— input not to exceed 9000Btu/hr (2638 W) each
22,000 6448 23 584
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
The word “each” was in the 1999 edition of ANSI A119.2/NFPA 1192 and was inadvertently removed starting with
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the 2002 edition for no apparent reason. The other entries in item #3 of this Table use the word “each” and should be re-added to item #4 to provide needed clarity.
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Public Input No. 39-NFPA 1192-2015 [ New Section after 5.7.10.1 ]
5.7.10.1.1
Registers or grills made of wood shall conform to the requirements of 49 CFR 571.302 of Federal MotorVehicle Safety Standard No. 302, “Flammability of Interior Materials”.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This language would allow the use of wood registers and grills as long as minimum flammability requirements are met. Renumber to 5.7.10.1.1 and relocate – more appropriate location within NFPA 1192.
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Public Input No. 40-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 5.8.1.2 [Excluding any Sub-Sections]
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Each recreational vehicle shall be provided with an owner's manual printed in English that contains as aminimum the information contained in 5.8.1.2.1 through 5.8.1.2.7.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This revision parallels the intent of 5.8.1.1 dealing with the operating instructions for appliances that only states they have to be provided, It doesn’t mandate what format.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: KENT PERKINS
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Public Input No. 41-NFPA 1192-2015 [ New Section after 5.8.1.2.7 ]
5.8.1.2.8A label as shown in Figure 5.8.1.2.8 shall be located near the outside cooking area:
! WARNING
When using this outdoor cooking area:
The vehicle must be level and stabilized.
Do not violate manufacturers' instructions on required clearances for cooking appliances duringuse.
Do not store cooking appliances until cool to the touch.
Can lead to a fire and explosion and result in death or serious injury.
Figure 5.8.1.2.8 Outside Cooking Warning Label
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Add this new paragraph. This information in the owners’ manual warns the consumer of hazards associated with the outside cooking area.
Submitter Information Verification
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Public Input No. 44-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 5.8.2.2.1 ]
5.8.2.2.1
Each vehicle shall have a warning label in accordance with Section 4.3. The label shall contain the word“Warning” with minimum 1⁄4 in. (6 mm) high letters and body text with minimum 1⁄8 in. (3 mm) high letters ona contrasting background. The label shall be affixed in a visible location at or near each propane containerfill valve and shall read as follows:
WARNING
DO NOT FILL PROPANE CONTAINER(S) TO MORE THAN 80 PERCENT OF CAPACITY.
FAILURE TO COMPLY COULD RESULT IN A FIRE OR PERSONAL INJURY. WARNING
Do not fill propane container(s) to more than 80 percent of capacity.
A properly filled container contains approximately 80 percent of its volume as liquid propane.
Overfilling the propane container(s) can result in uncontrolled propane flow, which could lead toa fire or explosion and result in death or serious injury.
Figure 5.8.2.2.1 Propane Container Warning Label
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Delete the existing WARNING label language and replace with the new label. This requirement is identifying the label that needs to be affixed to the RV and it should read the same as the label that is identified in requirement 5.8.1.2.3 addressing the filling of propane containers under Consumer Information – Required Information.
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Organization: RECREATION VEHICLE INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION
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City:
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Submittal Date: Mon Jun 29 14:25:57 EDT 2015
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Public Input No. 42-NFPA 1192-2015 [ New Section after 5.8.2.4 ]
5.8.2.5When an outside cooking area is provided, a permanent warning label with the word "Warning” withminimum 1/4 in.(6 mm) high letters and body text with minimum 1/8 in.(3 mm) high letters on a contrastingbackground shall be affixed in a visible location near the exterior cooking area and shall read as shown inFigure 5.8.2.5.
! WARNING
When using this outdoor cooking area:
The vehicle must be level and stabilized.
Do not violate Manufacturers' instructions on required clearances for cooking appliances duringuse.
Do not store cooking apppliances until cool to the touch.
Can lead to a fire and explosion and result in death or serious injury.
Figure 5.8.2.5 Outside Cooking Warning Label
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Add this new paragraph (5.8.2.5) and Figure 5.8.2.5 - this label addresses safety concerns for consumers using outside cooking areas. Revise the last sentence in the new labels (5.8.2.5) to read "Can lead to a fire and explosion and result in death or serious injury.
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Public Input No. 43-NFPA 1192-2015 [ New Section after 5.9.4.2 ]
5.9.4.3
The fuel filler hose shall comply with SAE J1527 - Type A2 fuel filler hose or equal.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Add new paragraph (5.9.4.3) This requirement is necessary as the fuel filler hose should not leak fuel or vapors after long term use, therefore the Type A2 designation provides additional clarification
The use of materials for fuel filler hose in RV applications such as “Fuel Transfer Hose” or other materials that do not have an SAE J1527 Type A2 rating is not recommended. The use of these other materials could lead to breaking down of the hose over time, emitting fumes into the RV or creating other problems. Although the use of SAE J1527 Type A2 hose is not currently required in the standard, RV manufacturers will want to ensure this hose is being used for all their fuel filler applications. In some cases, the RV manufacturer may add fuel filler hose to alter the fill location. In these cases, an RV manufacturer could be using the non-rated hose even though the RV chassis manufacturer is using the correct SAE J1527 Type A2 rated hose.
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Public Input No. 21-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 5.9.11.2 ]
5.9.11.2
Nozzles shall be used for the dispensing of fuel and shall be listed to ANSI/UL 842 2586 , designed for usewith unleaded fuel, of a trigger-and-handle type, and made with a nonferrous body.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
UL 842 covered many different types of valves including Hose Nozzle Valves. In 2011 the references and tests for hose nozzles valves were removed from UL 842 and placed into UL 2586 with an effective date of April 30, 2015.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: EDGAR WOLFF KLAMMER
Organization: UNDERWRITERS LABORATORIES INC
Street Address:
City:
State:
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Submittal Date: Wed Jun 03 10:01:03 EDT 2015
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Public Input No. 68-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 5.9.11.11 ]
5.9.11.11
All 120/120-240 V electrical equipment located on the exterior of the vehicle and within reach of the outletof the nozzle valve with the distribution fuel dispensing hose fully extended shall meet the requirements ofArticles 500 and 501 of NFPA 70 for Class I, Group D, Division 2 locations.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Editorial change. This requirement falls under section 5.9.11 Other Fuel-Dispensing Systems Requirements and therefore is addressing a "dispensing" hose not a "distribution" hose.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: KENT PERKINS
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Submittal Date: Tue Jun 30 11:39:42 EDT 2015
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Public Input No. 45-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 5.9.11.16 ]
5.9.11.16
The fuel-dispensing system label shall be made of material that does not deteriorate when in contact withpetroleum-based products and shall read as follows:
DANGER
NO SMOKING
.
BEFORE DISPENSING FUEL, TURN OFF ALL ENGINES, FUEL-BURNING APPLIANCES AND THEIRIGNITERS. DO NOT DISPENSE FUEL WITHIN 20 FT (6.1 M) OF AN IGNITION SOURCE. FAILURE TOCOMPLY COULD RESULT IN FIRE, DEATH, OR SERIOUS INJURY.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Delete the current DANGER label. During the 2015 NFPA 1192 code cycle a new DANGER label was incorporated into section 5.9.11.15 and identified as FIGURE 5.9.11.15 Fuel-Dispensing Danger Label. Therefore the current DANGER label under 5.9.11.16 is a duplication of this new label and therefore can be removed.
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Submitter Full Name: KENT PERKINS
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Public Input No. 46-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 5.9.11.17 ]
5.9.11.17
Clamps shall be in accordance with the following:
(1) Clamps shall have a nonperforated band and at a minimum meet the specifications of SAE J1508.
(2) Clamps shall be identified for the type and size of the fuel lines used.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Change the language on (1). Clamps with a perforated band that meet SAE J1508 are available and should be permitted
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Submitter Full Name: KENT PERKINS
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Public Input No. 74-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 6.1.1.2 ]
6.1.1.2
Cabinet door and drawer faces, exposed cabinet bottoms and end panels, and tub/shower walls shall bepermitted to obtain a radiant panel index of the same value not exceeding 200 as determined inaccordance with ASTM E 162.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This is simple clarification so as to aid the user and does not change requirements.
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Public Input No. 76-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 6.1.2 ]
6.1.2 Combustibility of Textile or Film Materials.
Where the walls, partitions, or ceilings consist of textile or Textile or film materials, such as tent fabric,insect screening, and flexible plastic weather protection, they used as walls, partitions or ceilings shallconform to the requirements of 49 CFR 571.302, paragraphs paragraph S4.3 and S5 of Federal MotorVehicle Safety Standard No. 302, “Flammability of Interior Materials.” Materials” as contained within 49CFR 571.302.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This does not change the requirements but makes the text clearer. Paragraph S4.3 already states that the test shall be conducted in accordance with paragraph S5 and the test is better known as FMVSS 302 (with the CFR reference added).
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Public Input No. 75-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 6.1.3 ]
6.1.3 Use of Cellular Foam or Foamed Plastic Materials.
Cellular foam or foamed plastic materials shall not be used for interior finish (as defined in 3.3.34) inrecreational vehicles, except as indicated in any of the following .
Exception No 6 .1: Cellular .3.1* Cellular or foamed plastic materials shall be permitted on the basis offire tests that substantiate their combustibility characteristics, for the use intended, in actual fireconditions.Exception No. 2: Incidental
6.1.3.2* Cellular or foamed plastic materials shall be permitted to be used when separated from theinterior of the vehicle by a thermal barrier consisting of one half inch (13 mm) gypsum board orequivalent.
6.1.3.3 Incidental use of cellular or foamed plastic materials for molding, trim, splash panels, and ondoors shall be permitted if the cellular or foamed plastic materials comply with the following: (a) a
minimum density of 20 lb/ft 3 (320 kg/m 3 ), (b) a maximum thickness of one half inch (13 mm), (c) amaximum width of 8 in . (205 mm) and (d) they constitute not more than 10 percent of the total surfacearea on which they are installed.
A.6.1.3.1 The most common fire test used for the assessment of the combustibility characteristics offoam plastics is NFPA 286, Standard Methods of Fire Tests for Evaluating Contribution of Wall andCeiling Interior Finish to Room Fire Growth, with pass fail criteria that require the following: (a) noflashover, (b) a peak heat release rate not exceeding 800 kW, (c) flames that do not reach the extremities
of the test specimen and (d) a total smoke release not exceeding 1,000 m 2 .
A.6.3.1.2 NFPA 275, Standard Method of Fire Tests for the Evaluation of Thermal Barriers, is a test usedfor evaluating whether a materiali s suitable as a thermal barrier.
Also, add NFPA 275 and NFPA 286 into Annex D on Informational References.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This is primarily cleanup. It accomplishes the following:
1. It eliminates exceptions and makes them into affirmative language. These are the only exceptions in the standard. 2. It explains that there are ways to use foam plastics for insulation: if they are separated by a thermal barrier or by 1/2 inch gypsum board. That provides added flexibility for using materials with high R values (i.e. materials that have good insulation properties) while still retaining the same level of safety. This does not mandate the use of thermal barriers or of gypsum but simply allows an alternative.3. The first annex note explains what is typically done to demonstrate that a foam plastic insulation material is suitable to be used exposed. This annex note does not require testing to NFPA 286 but is simply useful information.4. The second annex note explains how it is normally determined that a material constitutes a thermal barrier.5. The last section in the body of the standard is the only one that provides some new requirements in that it limits the amount and type of foam plastic insulation that can be used exposed. These requirements are typical of what is used in other applications, except that no requirements are included for flame spread of the foam (while codes typically require af lamespre ad index of 25 or 75). The reason for the density limitation is that it has been found that denser foam is safer.
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Public Input No. 28-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 6.3 ]
6.3 Fire Safety Detection Equipment.
6.3.1 Smoke Alarms.
6.3.1.1
At least one integral battery-operated smoke alarm shall be installed in each recreation vehicle.
6.3.1.2
A fifth-wheel trailer or travel trailer that has only interior lighting capable of being powered only by a 120 Vor 120 V/240 V external power supply shall be permitted to be equipped with a 120 V operated smokealarm with battery backup that shall be on a branch circuit supplying lighting and receptacle outlets thatshall not have ground-fault protection.
6.3.2 1.3 * Smoke Alarm Listing Requirement.
The smoke alarm shall be listed and marked on the device as being suitable for installation in recreationalvehicles under the requirements of ANSI/UL 217.
6.3.3 1.4 Installation of Smoke Alarm.
The required smoke alarm shall be installed in accordance with its listing but not within the separatesleeping areas.
6.3.4 1.5 Operational Check Warning Label.
A warning label with the word “Warning” a minimum of 1⁄4 in. (6 mm) high and body text a minimum of 1⁄8 in.(3 mm) high on a contrasting background shall be affixed in a visible location on or within 24 in. (610 mm)of the smoke alarm and shall read as shown in Figure 6.3.4.
Figure 6.3.4 Smoke 1.5 Smoke Alarm Warning Label.
6.3.5 1.6 Smoke Alarm Owner’s Manual Information.
The owner’s manual shall contain a statement regarding smoke alarm expiration.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This proposal coupled with other submitted proposals bring all of the safety detection equipment (smoke alarms, CO detectors, and propane detectors) under one section. This should be done for clarity within the standard.
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Public Input No. 29-NFPA 1192-2015 [Section No. 6.4.6]
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Public Input No. 83-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 6.3.2 ]
6.3.2 * Smoke Alarm Listing Requirement.
The smoke alarm shall be listed and marked on the device as being suitable in accordance with ANSI/UL217. The listing mark on the unit shall indicate that it is suitable for installation in recreational vehiclesunder the requirements of ANSI/UL 217 .
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This proposal clarifies that smoke alarms are listed in accordance with UL 217. They also must bear a listing mark that indicates they are suitable for use in recreational vehicles. That marking indicates they have been investigated to more stringent environmental tests as compared to smoke alarms investigated for use in dwelling units.
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Public Input No. 84-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 6.3.3 ]
6.3.3 Installation of Smoke Alarm.
The required smoke alarm shall be installed in accordance with its listing but not within the separatesleeping areas. in the vicinity of the sleeping areas. If sleeping room(s) are provided with privacy door(s), thesmoke alarm shall be installed outside of the sleeping rooms. The smoke alarm shall not be installed within 10 ft (3.0m) from a fixed cooking appliance, unless this would prohibit the placement of a smoke alarm outside of thesleeping area. Nothing prohibits the use of more than one smoke alarm in a recreational vehicle.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This clarifies placement of smoke alarms that is more consistent with the intent of NFPA 72,Chapter 29. The reference to not providing the smoke within 10 feet from a fixed cooking appliance unless dictated by the layout of the RV is based on NFPA 72, Section 29.8.3.4 (4). If one wishes to place more than on e smoke alarm in a unit it should not be prohibited.
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Public Input No. 85-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 6.3.5 ]
6.3.5 Owner’s Manual Information.
The owner’s manual shall contain a statement regarding smoke alarm expiration. contain information toinform system owners to replace batteries or defective units within 2 weeks, to replace smoke alarms whenthey fail to respond to tests, and to replace smoke alarms that have been in service longer than 10 years
from the date of manufacture marked on the unit.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This provides better guidance for owner's manual content and is consistent with applicable criteria in NFPA 72, Section 29.8.1.
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Public Input No. 47-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 6.4.1 ]
6.4.1 Provisions for Portable Fire Extinguishers. (See also 6.4.7.5)
6.4.1.1
Each motor home shall be equipped with a listed portable fire extinguisher with a minimum rating of 10-B:C.
6.4.1.2
Each recreational vehicle equipped with fuel-burning equipment (other than the prime mover engine) or a120/240 V electrical system shall be provided with a listed portable fire extinguisher with a minimum ratingof 5-B:C as defined in NFPA 10, Standard for Portable Fire Extinguishers, or CAN/ULC-S508, Standard forthe Rating and Fire Testing of Fire Extinguishers..
6.4.1.3
The fire extinguisher shall be installed in accordance with its listing to ANSI/UL 299, Dry Chemical FireExtinguishers, or CAN/ULC-S504, Standard for Dry Chemical Fire Extinguishersand to to NFPA 10,Standard for Portable Fire Extinguishers, or CAN/ULC-S508, Standard for the Rating and Fire Testing ofFire Extinguishers, and shall be located in the recreational vehicle interior within 24 in. (610 mm) of theopening of the primary means of escape.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Change the title. This addition to section 6.4.1 provides the reader with a necessary reference for fire extinguisher requirements for "toy hauler" type RVs that are currently only found in section 6.4.7 Special Transportation Provisions.
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Submitter Full Name: KENT PERKINS
Organization: RECREATION VEHICLE INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION
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Public Input No. 19-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 6.4.1.3 ]
6.4.1.3
The fire extinguisher shall be installed in accordance with its listing to ANSI/UL 299, Dry Chemical FireExtinguishers , or CAN/ULC-S504, Standard for Dry Chemical Fire Extinguishers and to to NFPA 10,Standard for Portable Fire Extinguishers, or CAN/ULC-S508, Standard for the Rating and Fire Testing ofFire Extinguishers , and and shall be located in the recreational vehicle interior within 24 in. (610 mm) ofthe opening of the primary means of escape.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
NFPA 10 provides the minimum installation requirements for extinguishers. The listing standards do not provide installation requirements.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Jennifer Boyle
Organization: Mark Conroy, Brooks Equipment Company
Affilliation: Fire Equipment Manufacturers Association
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Public Input No. 48-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 6.4.2 ]
6.4.2 Liquid Fuel Filler Installation Provisions.
6.4.2.1
The area surrounding liquid fuel filler pipes and vent tubing shall be sealed so that fuel vapors cannot travelinto concealed spaces between exterior and interior surfaces of the recreational vehicle or to the interior ofthe vehicle.
6.4.2.2
Materials and sealants used to seal the fill pipe and vent tubing location shall be nonabsorbent andresistant to intermittent contact (splashing) with fuel.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Remove Section 6.4.2.The requirements identified in section 6.4.2 are already addressed within Chapter 5 Fuel Systems and Equipment by the following sections and therefore can be eliminated to reduce duplication within the standard.
5.9.7.3 Sealing compounds used around the filler pipe and in the area described in 5.9.7.6 shall be fuel resistant.5.9.7.5 The area surrounding fuel filler pipes and vents shall be sealed so that vapors cannot travel between the exterior and interior surfaces of the recreational vehicle. 5.9.7.6 The sidewall surface below the filler cap and extending at least 12 in. (305mm) to each side of the cap’s vertical centerline shall be constructed of fuel-resistant nonabsorbent materials.
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Submitter Full Name: KENT PERKINS
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Public Input No. 49-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 6.4.3.2 ]
6.4.3.2
The terminus of combustion exhausts other than the primary mover engine shall not of RVs that do notcontain a motor generator shall not be permitted within a vertical distance of 36 in. (914 mm) below anyexpandable portion of the recreational vehicle.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Primary mover engine exhausts on RVs that contain a motor generator should not be exempt from this location requirement. This is because the consumer will likely be using the primary mover engine while parked to gain the advantages of the engine driven generator.
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Public Input No. 32-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 6.4.5.2.4 ]
6.4.5.2.4
Holes into the living area shall be sealed.
6.4.5.3
Generator exhaust pipe shall be secured and supported every 4' within the run.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
There are no current requirements for securement of the exhaust in the standard.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: JEFFREY CHRISTNER
Organization: GRAND DESIGN RV LLC
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Public Input No. 87-NFPA 1192-2015 [ New Section after 6.4.6 ]
6.4.6.1
The owner’s manual shall contain information indicating that the carbon monoxide alarm shall be replaced when itfails to respond to tests, when the end-of-life signal is activated or when the manufacturer’s replacement date isreached.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This information on CO alarm replacement should be included in the owners manual. The suggested wording is from NFPA 720, Section 9.6.1.5. and 9.6.1.6.
Submitter Information Verification
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Public Input No. 29-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 6.4.6 ]
6.4 3 .6 2 Carbon Monoxide (CO) Alarms.
All recreational vehicles shall be equipped with a CO alarm listed and marked on the device as beingsuitable for use in recreational vehicles under the requirements of ANSI/UL 2034 or CSA 6.19 and installedaccording to the terms of its listing.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This proposal moves the CO alarm requirement under a revised safety detection equipment section for clarity.
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Public Input No. 28-NFPA 1192-2015 [Section No. 6.3] Dependent
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Public Input No. 86-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 6.4.6 ]
6.4.6 Carbon Monoxide (CO) Alarms.
All recreational vehicles shall be equipped with a CO alarm listed and marked on the device as beingsuitable for use in recreational vehicles under the requirements of in accordance with ANSI/UL 2034 orCSA 6.19 and installed according to the terms of . The listing mark on the unit shall indicate that itis suitable for installation in recreational vehicles. The unit shall be installed in accordance with its listing.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
The proposal clarifies, among other things, that the listing mark must indicate that the CO alarm is suitable for use in recreational vehicles.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: HOWARD HOPPER
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Public Input No. 33-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 6.4.7.4.2 ]
6.4.7.4.2
Where flooring in the transportation area contains a seam or meets a wall, these areas shall be sealed withsealant that is nonabsorbent and resistant to intermittent contact with flammable liquids.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Floor coverings in the hauler area are non-absorbent however, may lose color or shine when fuels come in contact. Resistant is not needed if they are non-absorbent.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: JEFFREY CHRISTNER
Organization: GRAND DESIGN RV LLC
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Public Input No. 50-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 6.4.7.5 ]
6.4.7.5
An In recreation vehicles having a permanent wall of separation between the cargo area and the livingarea an additional listed portable fire extinguisher with a minimum rating of 10-B:C, as defined in NFPA 10,Standard for Portable Fire Extinguishers, shall be provided in the special transportation area within 24 in.(610 mm) of the exterior door that serves the special transportation area.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Revise the text. The extra fire extinguisher is needed only when a permanent wall of separation is present, rendering the other required fire extinguisher inaccessible from the cargo area. This was the intent of the original proposal meant to harmonize with CSA Z240 in the last code cycle.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: KENT PERKINS
Organization: RECREATION VEHICLE INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION
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Public Input No. 82-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 6.4.7.9 ]
6.4.7.9
The owner's manual shall contain, as a minimum, this statement: The following label has been placed onthe interior of the main entry door that reads as follows:
DANGER
ANY MOTORIZED VEHICLE OR ANY MOTORIZED EQUIPMENT POWERED WITH FLAMMABLELIQUID CAN CAUSE FIRE, EXPLOSION, OR ASPHYXIATION IF STORED OR TRANSPORTEDWITHIN THE RECREATIONAL VEHICLE. TO REDUCE THE RISK OF FIRE, EXPLOSION, OR
ASPHYXIATION:
Vehicles and equipment powered by internal combustion engines and placed in recreational vehicles
may cause carbon monoxide poisoning or asphyxiation, which could result in death or serious injury.
The flammable liquids used to power these items can cause a fire or explosion, which can result in deathor serious injury.
To reduce risk:
1. Do not ride in the vehicle storage area
whilewhen vehicles are present.
2. Do not sleep in the vehicle storage area
whilewhen vehicles are present.
3. Close doors and windows in walls of separation (if installed)
whilewhen any vehicle is present.
4. Run fuel out of engines of stored vehicles after shutting off fuel at the tank.
5. Do not store, transport, or dispense fuel inside this vehicle.
6. Open the windows, openings, or air
ventilationventiliation systems provided for venting the transportation area when vehicles are present.
7. Do not operate propane appliances, pilot lights, or electrical equipment when motorized vehicles arepresent.
FAILURE TO COMPLY COULD RESULT IN AN INCREASED RISK OF FIRE, EXPLOSION,ASPHYXIATION, DEATH, OR SERIOUS INJURY.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Delete the current DANGER label and replace with the current 2015 NFPA 1192 Figure 6.4.7.7 Internal Combustion Engine Transporting Danger Label. This requirement is identifying the label that needs to be contained in the owner's manual and it should read the same as the label that is identified in requirement 6.4.7.7 that is addressing where this same label needs to be placed inside the RV.
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Organization: RECREATION VEHICLE INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION
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Public Input No. 52-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 6.4.7.10 ]
6.4.7.10
A warning label, with “Warning” 1⁄4 in. (6 mm) high and body text 1⁄8 in. (3 mm) high,shall be affixed to theinterior of the vehicle, in a visible location within the cargo area and a statement in the owner's manualexplaining the proper weight distribution for the transportation of internal combustion engine vehicles shallbe provided.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Revise the language. This label should be required to be in the cargo area since it addresses cargo weight distribution.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: KENT PERKINS
Organization: RECREATION VEHICLE INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION
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Public Input No. 30-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 6.4.8 ]
6.4 3 .8 3 Propane Detectors.
6.4 3 .8 3 .1
All recreational vehicles equipped with a propane appliance and an electrical system shall be equipped witha propane detector listed and marked on the device as being suitable for use in recreational vehicles underthe requirements of ANSI/UL 1484, Standard for Residential Gas Detectors, and installed according to theterms of its listing.
6.4 3 .8 3 .2
For vehicles that contain a special transportation area with a wall of separation, the required propanedetector shall be located outside the special transportation area in the living area of the vehicle.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This proposal move the propane detector requirement under a revised safety detection equipment section for clarity.
Related Public Inputs for This Document
Related Input Relationship
Public Input No. 28-NFPA 1192-2015 [Section No. 6.3]
Public Input No. 29-NFPA 1192-2015 [Section No. 6.4.6]
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: DAVID MIHALICK
Organization: THOR INDUSTRIES INC
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Public Input No. 79-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 6.4.9 ]
6.4.9 Protruding Component Operation.
The Motorized RVs shall have the operation of protruding components (i.e., awning, landing gear, levelsystem, or slide-outs) automatically disabled while the vehicle is in transit. On non-motorized RVs theoperation of protruding components (i.e, awning, landing gear, level system or slide-outs) controlled bymeans of an electrical switch or controller for operation shall be incapable of unintentional activation whilethe vehicle is in transit.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Change the paragraph as shown. This addresses the need for a requirement in motorized RVs to have the protruding components automatically disabled while driving the motorhome. This more stringent requirement for motorhomes is necessary since consumers ride in motorhomes and could operate the protruding equipment during transit
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: KENT PERKINS
Organization: RECREATION VEHICLE INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION
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Public Input No. 81-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 6.4.9 ]
6.4.9 Protruding Component Operation.
The operation of protruding components (i.e., awning, landing gear, level system, or slide-outs) controlledby means of an electrical switch or controller for operation shall be incapable of unintentional activationwhile the vehicle is in transit.
Additional Proposed Changes
File Name Description Approved
1192_TIALogNo._1129_ballot.pdf NFPA 1192 TIA 15-1 Log 1129
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
NOTE: This public input originates from Tentative Interim Amendment No. 15-1 Log 1129 issued by the Standards Council on 08/14/2014 and per the NFPA Regs., needs to be reconsidered by the Technical Committee for the next edition of the Document.
Submitter’s Substantiation: As shown in the Second Revision No.10-NFPA 1192-2013 {Section No. 6.4.9}, the Committee clearly expressed its intent that the purpose of this new requirement was to address “unintentional” activation of components (see Committee Statement below):
6.4.9 Protruding Component Operation. The operation of protruding components (i.e. awning, landing gear, level system or slide outs) controlled by means of an electrical switch or controller for operation, shall be incapable of activation while the vehicle is in transit.
6.4.10 Slide-Out Room Activation. Slide-out room activation shall use only momentary switching with nonlatching circuitry or equivalent.
Committee Statement:This limits unintentional activation to all the components while in motion and narrows the scope of momentary latching to the slide-outs and power beds.
The substantiation for the revision sought in this Tentative Interim Amendment is to restore the text of this Section 6.4.9 such that it reads as the Committee intended upon its approval.
Emergency Nature: In accordance with the Regulations Governing the Development of NFPA Standards, section 5.3(a), the proposed TIA seeks to correct the unintended omission of a critical term from the 2014 edition of NFPA 1192, Section6.4.9, that occurred and was overlooked during the just-completed 2014 edition code cycle. This code cycle was the firsttime that the recently introduced “new” NFPA process was applied for NFPA 1192.
The intended text of Section 6.4.9 – “incapable of unintentional activation” – is meant to be a reasonable safety measure to prevent the accidental deployment of protruding components while a vehicle is in motion. The Committee sought, and clearly expressed in its Statement, to prevent such accidents from occurring as the result of some inadvertent act or action by the driver or a passenger. There are multiple means from which manufacturers could choose in order to effectively and economically comply with this safety goal.
In contrast, the unintended, erroneous text of Section 6.4.9 as it now stands – “incapable of activation” – mandates engineering and/or electronic solutions that guarantee the complete impossibility of activation. No device currently exists to achieve this compliance. Even if such a device could be developed, this solution would greatly exceed what the Committee intended and would present problems of coordination between final stage manufacturers, chassis manufacturers and numerous supplier companies that cannot reasonably be overcome in the short time period before the2014 edition of NFPA 1192 is published.
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Submitter Full Name: TC ON REC-AAA
Organization: NFPA 1192 TC ON RECREATIONAL VEHICLES
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National Fire Protection Association
1 Batterymarch Park, Quincy, MA 02169-7471
Phone: 617-770-3000 • Fax: 617-770-0700 • www.nfpa.org
MEMORANDUM
To: NFPA Technical Committee on Recreational Vehicles
From: Elena Carroll, Administrator, Technical Projects
Date: February 14, 2014
Subject: NFPA 1192 Proposed Tentative Interim Amendment (TIA) No. 1129
_____________________________________________________________________________
The attached proposed Tentative Interim Amendment (TIA) is being submitted to you for letter
ballot. This proposed TIA was submitted by Bruce Hopkins, Recreation Vehicle Industry
Association and endorsed by John Harvey, Chair, TC on Recreational Vehicles; Mark Luttich
and David Mihalick, members of the TC on Recreational Vehicles.
This proposed TIA will be published for public comment in the March 7, 2014 issue of NFPA
News with a Public Comment Closing Date of April 18, 2014. Any public comments received
will be circulated to the committee. The Standards Council will consider the issuance of this
TIA at their August 11 – 14, 2014 meeting.
In addition to being balloted on the technical merits of the proposed TIA, the Committee is also
being balloted on whether or not this matter is of an emergency nature. Please see Section 5
(copy enclosed) regarding the processing of TIAs from the Regulations Governing the
Development of NFPA Standards.
Please complete and return your ballot as soon as possible but no later than February 28, 2014. As
noted on the ballot form, please return the ballot to Elena Carroll either via e-mail to [email protected]
or via fax to 617-984-7110. You may also mail your ballot to the attention of Elena Carroll at NFPA, 1
Batterymarch Park, Quincy, MA 02169.
Note: Please remember that the return of ballots and attendance at committee meetings are
required in accordance with the Regulations Governing the Development of NFPA Standards.
Attachments
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Each Tentative Interim Amendment (TIA) shall be submitted
to the Standards Council Secretary and shall include the
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(i.e., Technical Committee, organization, company), where
appropriate
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NFPA Standard, and paragraph of the NFPA Standard to
which the TIA is directed
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added, revised (and how revised), or deleted
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an emergency nature requiring prompt action
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involved Technical Committee or Correlating Committee to
the processing of the TIA. The agreement to the processing of
the TIA is for the sole purpose to allow the TIA to be
processed and does not necessarily imply agreement with the
merits or emergency nature of the TIA.
5.2 Preliminary Screening of Proposed Tentative Interim
Amendment. The Standards Council Secretary shall review
all Proposed TIAs and may return to the submitter, without
processing, any submission that does not conform to Section
5.1. In addition, the Standards Council Secretary may reject
for processing any proposed TIA that does not manifestly
appear to be of an emergency nature requiring prompt action.
In exercising his or her discretion to reject a proposed TIA for
processing, the Standards Council Secretary may consult with
the responsible Technical Committee/Correlating Committee
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submittal, on its face, does not state any adequate basis on
which to conclude that it is of an emergency, whether it is
unduly repetitive of issues already considered and rejected by
the Technical Committee/Correlating Committee, or whether
it is plainly frivolous. Where, however, there exists any
reasonable question about the emergency nature of the
proposed TIA or where the Standards Council Secretary
determines that it is otherwise advisable for the TIA to be
processed, the Standards Council Secretary shall submit the
TIA for processing, and the question of emergency nature
shall be considered anew and determined by the responsible
Technical Committee and Correlating Committee. The text of
a proposed TIA may be processed as submitted or may be
changed, but only with the approval of the submitter.
5.3 Evaluation of Emergency Nature. Determination of an
emergency nature shall include but not be limited to one or
more of the following factors:
(a) The NFPA Standard contains an error or an omission
that was overlooked during a regular revision process.
(b) The NFPA Standard contains a conflict within the
NFPA Standard or with another NFPA Standard.
(c) The proposed TIA intends to correct a previously
unknown existing hazard.
(d) The proposed TIA intends to offer to the public a
benefit that would lessen a recognized (known) hazard or
ameliorate a continuing dangerous condition or situation.
(e) The proposed TIA intends to accomplish a recognition
of an advance in the art of safeguarding property or life where
an alternative method is not in current use or is unavailable to
the public.
(f) The proposed TIA intends to correct a circumstance in
which the revised NFPA Standard has resulted in an adverse
impact on a product or method that was inadvertently
overlooked in the total revision process or was without
adequate technical (safety) justification for the action.
5.4 Publication of Proposed Tentative Interim
Amendment. A proposed Tentative Interim Amendment that
meets the provisions of Section 5.1 shall be published
indicating that the proposed Tentative Interim Amendment has
been forwarded to the responsible Technical Committee and
Correlating Committee for processing and that anyone
interested may comment on the proposed Tentative Interim
Amendment within the time period established and published.
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Action.
(a) The proposed Tentative Interim Amendment shall be
submitted for Ballot and comment of the Technical Committee
in accordance with 3.3.4. The Technical Committee shall be
separately Balloted on both the technical merits of the
amendment and whether the amendment involves an issue of
an emergency nature. Such Balloting shall be completed
concurrently with the public review period. Any Public
Comments inconsistent with the vote of any Technical
Committee Member shall be circulated to the Technical
Committee to allow votes to be changed. A recommendation
for approval shall be established if three-fourths of the voting
Members calculated in accordance with 3.3.4.3(c) have voted
in favor of the Tentative Interim Amendment.
(b) The proposed Tentative Interim Amendment shall be
submitted for Ballot and comment of the Correlating
Committee, if any, which shall make a recommendation to the
Standards Council with respect to the disposition of the
Tentative Interim Amendment. The Correlating Committee
shall be separately Balloted on both the merits of the
amendment (as it relates to the Correlating Committee
authority and responsibilities in accordance with 3.4.2 and
3.4.3) and whether the amendment involves an issue of an
emergency nature. Any Public Comments inconsistent with
the vote of any Technical Committee or Correlating
Committee Member shall be circulated to the Correlating
Committee to allow votes to be changed. A recommendation
for approval shall be established if three-fourths of the voting
Members calculated in accordance with 3.3.4.3(c) have voted
in favor of the Tentative Interim Amendment.
(c) All Public Comments, Ballots, and comments on Ballots
on the proposed Tentative Interim Amendment shall be
summarized in a staff report and forwarded to the Standards
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shall review the material submitted in accordance with 5.5(c),
together with the record on any Appeals (see Section 1.6,
1.6.1), and shall take one of the following actions:
(a) Issue the proposed Tentative Interim Amendment.
(b) Issue the proposed Tentative Interim Amendment as
amended by the Standards Council.
(c) Where acted on concurrently with the issuance of a new
edition of the NFPA Standard to which it relates, issue the
Tentative Interim Amendment as part of the new edition.
(d) Reject the proposed Tentative Interim Amendment.
(e) Return the proposed Tentative Interim Amendment to
the Technical Committee with appropriate instruction
(f) Direct a different action.
5.7 Effective Date of a Tentative Interim Amendment. Tentative Interim Amendments shall become effective 20 days
after Standards Council issuance unless the President
determines, within his or her discretion, that the effective date
shall be delayed pending the consideration of a Petition to the
Board of Directors (see Section 1.7). The President may also,
within his or her discretion, refer the matter of a delay in the
effective date of the TIA to the Executive Committee of the
Board of Directors or to the Board of Directors.
5.8 Publication of Tentative Interim Amendments. The
NFPA shall publish a notice of the issuance of each Tentative
Interim Amendment and may, as appropriate, issue a news
release to applicable and interested technical journals. The
notice and any news release shall indicate the tentative
character of the Tentative Interim Amendment. In any
subsequent distribution of the NFPA Standard to which the
Tentative Interim Amendment applies, the text of the
Tentative Interim Amendment shall be included in a manner
judged most feasible to accomplish the desired objectives.
5.9 Applicability. Tentative Interim Amendments shall apply
to the NFPA Standard existing at the time of issuance.
Tentative Interim Amendments issued after the proposal
closing date shall also apply, when the text of the existing
NFPA Standard remains unchanged, to the next edition of the
NFPA Standard. Tentative Interim Amendments issued
concurrently with the issuance of a new edition shall apply to
both the existing and the new editions.
5.10 Subsequent Processing. The Technical Committee
responsible for the NFPA Standard or the part of the NFPA
Standard affected shall process the subject matter of any
Tentative Interim Amendment as Public Input for the next
edition of the NFPA Standard (see Section 3.3).
5.11 Exception. When the Standards Council authorizes other
procedures for the processing and/or issuance of Tentative
Interim Amendments, the provisions of this section shall not
apply.
NFPA® 1192-Proposed 2015 Edition
Standard on Recreational Vehicles
TIA Log No. 1129
Reference: 6.4.9
Comment Closing Date: April 18, 2014
Submitters: Bruce Hopkins, Recreation Vehicle Industry Association
1. In Chapter 6, Fire and Life Safety Provisions, revise section 6.4.9 by adding the term “unintentional” so as to read as
follows:
6.4.9 Protruding Component Operation. The operation of protruding components (i.e. awning, landing
gear, level system or slide outs) controlled by means of an electrical switch or controller for operation,
shall be incapable of unintentional activation while the vehicle is in transit.
Submitter’s Substantiation: As shown in the Second Revision No.10-NFPA 1192-2013 {Section No. 6.4.9}, the
Committee clearly expressed its intent that the purpose of this new requirement was to address “unintentional” activation
of components (see Committee Statement below):
6.4.9 Protruding Component Operation. The operation of protruding components (i.e. awning, landing gear, level
system or slide outs) controlled by means of an electrical switch or controller for operation, shall be incapable of
activation while the vehicle is in transit.
6.4.10 Slide-Out Room Activation. Slide-out room activation shall use only momentary switching with
nonlatching circuitry or equivalent.
Committee Statement:
This limits unintentional activation to all the components while in motion and narrows the scope of momentary
latching to the slide-outs and power beds.
The substantiation for the revision sought in this Tentative Interim Amendment is to restore the text of this Section 6.4.9
such that it reads as the Committee intended upon its approval.
Emergency Nature: In accordance with the Regulations Governing the Development of NFPA Standards, section 5.3(a),
the proposed TIA seeks to correct the unintended omission of a critical term from the 2014 edition of NFPA 1192, Section
6.4.9, that occurred and was overlooked during the just-completed 2014 edition code cycle. This code cycle was the first
time that the recently introduced “new” NFPA process was applied for NFPA 1192.
The intended text of Section 6.4.9 – “incapable of unintentional activation” – is meant to be a reasonable safety measure
to prevent the accidental deployment of protruding components while a vehicle is in motion. The Committee sought, and
clearly expressed in its Statement, to prevent such accidents from occurring as the result of some inadvertent act or action
by the driver or a passenger. There are multiple means from which manufacturers could choose in order to effectively and
economically comply with this safety goal.
In contrast, the unintended, erroneous text of Section 6.4.9 as it now stands – “incapable of activation” – mandates
engineering and/or electronic solutions that guarantee the complete impossibility of activation. No device currently exists
to achieve this compliance. Even if such a device could be developed, this solution would greatly exceed what the
Committee intended and would present problems of coordination between final stage manufacturers, chassis
manufacturers and numerous supplier companies that cannot reasonably be overcome in the short time period before the
2014 edition of NFPA 1192 is published.
Public Input No. 54-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 7.2.2.4 ]
7.2.2.4
The vertical distance from the fixture outlet to the a "water seal" trap shall not exceed 24 in. (610 mm).
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Change the language as shown. This clarifies this requirement does not apply to “waterless waste valve” type “traps”. These are usually permitted by the terms of their listing to be located further than permitted here from the fixture outlet.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: KENT PERKINS
Organization: RECREATION VEHICLE INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
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Public Input No. 55-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 7.2.2.5 ]
7.2.2.5
The horizontal distance from the fixture's outlet to the a "water seal" trap shall not exceed 30 in. (762 mm).
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Change language as shown. This clarifies this requirement does not apply to “waterless waste valve” type “traps”. These are usually permitted by the terms of their listing to be located further than permitted here from the fixture outlet.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: KENT PERKINS
Organization: RECREATION VEHICLE INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
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Public Input No. 73-NFPA 1192-2015 [ New Section after 7.2.3.2 ]
7.2.3.3 Flush toilets shall conform to ANSI/ASME A11.19.2 or to ANSI/IAPMO Z124.4.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This requirement is proposed to be moved from the section on definitions.
Related Public Inputs for This Document
Related Input Relationship
Public Input No. 72-NFPA 1192-2015 [Section No. 3.3.55.1]
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Submitter Full Name: MARCELO HIRSCHLER
Organization: GBH INTERNATIONAL
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Tue Jun 30 16:30:26 EDT 2015
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Public Input No. 70-NFPA 1192-2015 [ New Section after 7.3.7.3 ]
7.3.7.4
Tanks that allow filling from the pressure water piping system shall have a vent with an inside diameter,including fittings, larger than the fill pipe's inside diameter, including fittings.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Add new sentence. If the vent is not large enough in this application the tank is subjected to pressure.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: KENT PERKINS
Organization: RECREATION VEHICLE INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
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Public Input No. 57-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 7.4.2.4 ]
7.4.2.4
Horizontal drainage piping, except fixture connections on the inlet side of the trap, shall have a uniformslope of not less than 1⁄8 in./ft (10.4 mm/m) toward the recreational vehicle main drain outlet or slope inaccordance with the listing instructions .
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Horizontal drainage piping could be found "with in" a listed flexible drainage connector. However this portion of pipe is a listed part of the flexible drainage connector.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: KENT PERKINS
Organization: RECREATION VEHICLE INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
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Public Input No. 58-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 7.4.4.12 ]
7.4.4.12
A waterless trap shall have affixed on or adjacent to it or the fixture it services a label with the word“NOTICE” with letters a minimum of 1⁄4 in. (6 mm) high and body text a minimum of 1⁄8 in. (3 mm) high on acontrasting background that shall read as shown in Figure 7.4.4.12.
Figure 7.4.4.12 Waterless Trap Notice Label.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Revise the text. In many cases a location adjacent to the waterless trap or the sink it services is more visible. The label should be permitted on or adjacent the sink the waterless trap services as this is where the cleanout tool could be inserted.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: KENT PERKINS
Organization: RECREATION VEHICLE INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Tue Jun 30 08:29:56 EDT 2015
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Public Input No. 25-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 7.5.1 ]
7.5.1 Installation of Waste Holding Tanks. General
7.5.1.1 Waste holding tanks shall be securely installed in such locations as to be removable for service,repair, or replacement without the necessity of removing structural members.
7.5.1.2 Waste holding tanks shall be secured in place so they do not become dislodged when a load equalto four times the holding tank's filled weight is applied to the filled holding tank in any direction exceptupward.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Currently there are no requirements in NFPA 1192 to prevent filled waste holding tanks from becoming dislodged when the RV is subjected to road shock or vibration. Adding this criteria will address this safety concern and provide similar securement criteria as currently found in section 5.2.4 (propane containers) and paragraph 5.9.6.5 (fuel tanks).
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: JEFFREY CHRISTNER
Organization: GRAND DESIGN RV LLC
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
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Public Input No. 59-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 7.5.2.2 ]
7.5.2.2
Neither the inlet nor vent fitting shall extend downward into the tank more than 1 ⁄ 2 3/4 in. (13mm 19mm ). .
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This suggested change is based on input from the fittings manufacturers who are indicating that vent connection fittings are now more robust and are designed to seat more fully in the top of the tank. Thus the increase to ¾″ would accommodate these new fitting designs without jeopardizing safety.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: KENT PERKINS
Organization: RECREATION VEHICLE INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Tue Jun 30 08:34:29 EDT 2015
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Public Input No. 62-NFPA 1192-2015 [ New Section after 7.5.3.7 ]
7.5.3.8
Fixtures draining into the tank shall have their drain outlet higher than the flood level of the toilet, or thefixture drain shall be provided with a backflow prevention device.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This prevents the potentially unsanitary condition where waste can back up into these low fixtures when the BWHT is overfilled.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: KENT PERKINS
Organization: RECREATION VEHICLE INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Tue Jun 30 08:45:03 EDT 2015
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Public Input No. 61-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 7.5.3.7 ]
7.5.3.7
A caution label containing the word “Caution” with letters a minimum of 1⁄4 in. (6 mm) high and body text aminimum of 1⁄8 in. (3 mm) high on a contrasting background shall be affixed in a visible location adjacent tothe tank flush valve inlet and shall read as follows:
CAUTION
Do not use the tank flush valve unless the fullway termination valve is in the open position. May result inan unsanitary condition leading to illness or personal injury.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Format label in same format as other labels in chapter.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: KENT PERKINS
Organization: RECREATION VEHICLE INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
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Public Input No. 63-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 7.6.6 ]
7.6.6 Anti-Siphon Trap Vent Devices.
An anti-siphon trap vent device shall be permitted to be used only as a secondary vent in accordance withthe following:
(1) An anti-siphon trap vent device shall be installed in accordance with the terms of its listing.
(2) One anti-siphon trap vent device shall be permitted to serve not more than two fixtures.
(3) Anti-siphon trap devices shall not be used as a primary vent for toilets or holding tanks.
(4) When a fixture drain or main drain with fixtures serviced by water seal traps bypasses a holding tank,that drain shall be vented by a primary vent.
(5) Two fixtures protected by one anti-siphon trap vent device shall be drained by a common 1 1⁄2 in. (38mm) minimum drain.
(6) The device shall be installed in an accessible location that permits a free flow of air.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Change this language. The primary vent is not necessary if the fixtures are serviced by waterless waste valves.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: KENT PERKINS
Organization: RECREATION VEHICLE INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
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Public Input No. 64-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 7.6.7.1 ]
7.6.7.1
Except as otherwise permitted in this standard, each vent pipe shall pass through the roof and terminatevertically, undiminished in size, not less than 2 1 in. (51 25 mm) above the roof.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Vent cap designs that permit the vent pipe to be cut 1" above the roof have proven functional without back pressure or siphoning problems and should be permitted.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: KENT PERKINS
Organization: RECREATION VEHICLE INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Tue Jun 30 08:52:30 EDT 2015
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Public Input No. 65-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 7.7.2.1.2 ]
7.7.2.1.2
The water heater storage tank and the pressurized potable water storage tank shall be removed from thepiping system, and the remaining piping system shall be pressure tested with air at 80 psi to 100 psi (551kPa to 689 kPa). and the water heater storage tank and the pressurized water storage tank shall beconnected and the piping tested with air at 30 psi to 35 psi (207 kPa to 241 kPa)
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
The language ensures testing is performed to ensure no leaks are present in the fittings exempted from the test at 80 psi.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: KENT PERKINS
Organization: RECREATION VEHICLE INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Tue Jun 30 08:55:25 EDT 2015
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Public Input No. 27-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. 8.4.1.6 ]
8.4.1.6
Trailers shall also have safety chains or cables attached to the A-frame in accordance with Section 8.1.3 .
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This section is redundant. This requirement is already defined in section 8.1.3.1.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: DAVID MIHALICK
Organization: THOR INDUSTRIES INC
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Fri Jun 26 08:51:37 EDT 2015
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Public Input No. 22-NFPA 1192-2015 [ Section No. C.1.3 ]
C.1.3 Miscellaneous.
(1) Manufactured air ducts (ANSI/UL 181)
(2) Air duct connectors (ANSI/UL 181)
(3) Air duct registers (ANSI/UL 94)
(4) Fuel distribution nozzle (ANSI/UL 842 2586 )
(5) Fuel-dispensing hose (UL 330)
(6) Fuel distribution system hose (SAE J30 or J30R7)
(7) Rollover vent valves (49 CFR 393.67)
(8) Fuel hose clamps (SAE 1508 Type D)
(9) Comfort conditioning equipment (ANSI/UL 1995/CSA C22.2 No. 236)
(10) Fire extinguishers (ANSI/UL 299)
(11) Smoke alarms (ANSI/UL 217)
(12) CO alarms (ANSI/UL 2034/CSA 6.19)
(13) LP-Gas leak detectors (ANSI/UL 1484)
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
UL 842 covered many different types of valves including Hose Nozzle Valves. In 2011 the references and tests for hose nozzles valves were removed from UL 842 and placed into UL 2586 with an effective date of April 30, 2015.
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D.1.2 Other Publications.
D.1.2.1 ANSI IEEE Publications.
American National Standards Institute, Inc., 25 West 43rd Street, 4th Floor, New York, NY 10036.
ANSI SI 10, Standard for Use of the International System of Units (SI): The Modern Metric System,1997 Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers, 445 and 501 Hoes Lane, Piscataway, NJ08854-4141 .
IEEE SI 10, American National Standard for Metric Practice , 2010, Errata, 2013 .
D.1.2.2 UL Publications.
Underwriters Laboratories Inc., 333 Pfingsten Road, Northbrook, IL 60062-2096.
ANSI/ UL 484, Standard for Room Air Conditioners, 2007 2014 , revised2012 revised 2014 .
D.1.2.3 U.S. Government Publications.
U.S. Government Printing Government Publishing Office, Washington, DC 20402.
HUD Interpretive Bulletin A-1-88.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Referenced current SDO names, addresses, standard names, numbers, and editions.
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D.1.2.2 UL Publications.
Underwriters Laboratories Inc., 333 Pfingsten Road, Northbrook, IL 60062-2096.
ANSI/UL 484, Standard for Room Air Conditioners, 2007,revised2012 revised 2014 .
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Proposed change reflects an updated edition of UL Standards
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Chapter 2 Referenced Publications
2.1 General.
The documents or portions thereof listed in this chapter are referenced within this standard and shall beconsidered part of the requirements of this document.
2.2 NFPA Publications.
National Fire Protection Association, 1 Batterymarch Park, Quincy, MA 02169-7471.
NFPA 1, Fire Code ,2012 edition 2015 .
NFPA 10, Standard for Portable Fire Extinguishers, 2013 edition .
NFPA 58, Liquefied Petroleum Gas Code, 2014 edition .
NFPA 70® , National Electrical Code®, 2014 edition .
NFPA 72® , National Fire Alarm and Signaling Code,2013 edition 2016 .
NFPA 1141, Standard for Fire Protection Infrastructure for Land Development in Wildland, Rural, andSuburban Areas, 2012 edition .
NFPA 1142, Standard on Water Supplies for Suburban and Rural Fire Fighting, 2012 edition .
NFPA 1144, Standard for Reducing Structure Ignition Hazards from Wildland Fire, 2013 edition .
NFPA 1192, Standard on Recreational Vehicles,2011 edition 2015 .
2.3 Other Publications.
2.3.1 ANSI Publications.
American National Standards Institute, Inc., 25 West 43rd Street, 4th floor, New York, NY 10036.
ANSI A119.5, Standard for Recreational Park Trailers, 1998 2009 .
ANSI/ARI 1010, Standard for Drinking Fountains and Self-Contained, Mechanically Refrigerated DrinkingWater Coolers, 1994.
2.3.2 U.S. Government Publications.
U.S. Government Printing Publishing Office, Washington, DC 20402.
Title 42, United States Code, Section 201, Public Law 93–523, Safe Drinking Water Act.
Title 40, Code of Federal Regulations, Part 141, National Primary Drinking Water Regulations.
2.3.3 Other Publications.
Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, 11th edition, Merriam-Webster, Inc., Springfield, MA, 2003.
2.4 References for Extracts in Mandatory Sections.
NFPA 1, Fire Code , 2012 edition 2015 .
NFPA 1192, Standard on Recreational Vehicles,2011 edition 2015 .
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Referenced current editions.
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Chapter 3 Definitions
3.1 General.
The definitions contained in this chapter shall apply to the terms used in this standard. Where terms are notdefined in this chapter or within another chapter, they shall be defined using their ordinarily acceptedmeanings within the context in which they are used. Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, 11th edition,shall be the source for the ordinarily accepted meaning.
3.2 NFPA Official Definitions.
3.2.1* Approved.
Acceptable to the authority having jurisdiction.
3.2.2* Authority Having Jurisdiction (AHJ).
An organization, office, or individual responsible for enforcing the requirements of a code or standard, or forapproving equipment, materials, an installation, or a procedure.
3.2.3 Labeled.
Equipment or materials to which has been attached a label, symbol, or other identifying mark of anorganization that is acceptable to the authority having jurisdiction and concerned with product evaluation,that maintains periodic inspection of production of labeled equipment or materials, and by whose labelingthe manufacturer indicates compliance with appropriate standards or performance in a specified manner.
3.2.4* Listed.
Equipment, materials, or services included in a list published by an organization that is acceptable to theauthority having jurisdiction and concerned with evaluation of products or services, that maintains periodicinspection of production of listed equipment or materials or periodic evaluation of services, and whoselisting states that either the equipment, material, or service meets appropriate designated standards or hasbeen tested and found suitable for a specified purpose.
3.2.5 Shall.
Indicates a mandatory requirement.
3.2.6 Should.
Indicates a recommendation or that which is advised but not required.
3.3 General Definitions.
3.3.1 Accessory Structure.
Buildings that house offices, employee or operator living units, recreational facilities, grocery stores,convenience stores, gift shops, services, restrooms, dumping stations, showers, laundry facilities, storageunits, and other support services customarily a part of a recreational vehicle park or campground operation.
3.3.2 Campground.
Any parcel or tract of land under the control of any person, organization, or governmental entity whereintwo or more recreational vehicle, recreational park trailer, and/or other camping unit sites are offered foruse by the public or members of an organization for overnight stays.
3.3.2.1 Developed Campground.
A campground with two or more recreational vehicle or recreational park trailer unit sites accessible byvehicular traffic, where sites are substantially developed and refuse disposal systems, flush toilets, bathingfacilities, and water are provided.
3.3.2.2* Primitive Campground.
A campground that is not accessible to vehicles and no facilities are provided for the comfort orconvenience of the campers.
3.3.2.3 Semi-Developed Campground.
A campground with two or more recreational vehicle or recreational park trailer unit sites, accessible byvehicular traffic. Roads and facilities (toilets and/or privies) are provided.
3.3.2.4* Semi-Primitive Campground.
A campground accessible only by walk-in, equestrian, or motorized trail vehicles where rudimentaryfacilities (privies and/or fireplaces) may be provided for the comfort and convenience of the campers.
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3.3.3* Camping Unit.
A portable structure, shelter, or vehicle designed and intended for occupancy by persons engaged in RVingor camping.
3.3.4 Camping Unit Site.
A specific area within a recreational vehicle park or campground that is set aside for use by a camping unit.
3.3.5 Camping Unit Stand.
A specific area within a recreational vehicle park or campground set aside for use by a camping unit.
3.3.6 Density.
The number of camping unit sites on a unit of land area.
3.3.7* Gross Trailer Area.
The total plan area measured to the maximum horizontal projection of exterior walls in the setup mode.
3.3.8 Offset (Sewer Lines).
A combination of elbows or bends in a line of piping that brings one section of the pipe out of line but into aline parallel with the other section.
3.3.9 Propane.
Any material having a vapor pressure not exceeding that allowed from commercial propane composedpredominantly of the following hydrocarbons, either by themselves or as mixtures: propane, propylene,butane (normal butane or iso-butane), and butylene. [1192, 2011]
3.3.10 Public Water Supply.
A municipally or privately owned and approved community water supply system designed to distributewater to consumers within a defined geographical area.
3.3.11 Rear of Site.
A line designating the rearmost part of the stand that is perpendicular to the longitudinal centerline of thestand.
3.3.12 Recreational Park Trailer /Park Model RV .
A trailer-type unit that is primarily designed to provide temporary living quarters for recreational camping orseasonal use.
3.3.13 Recreational Park Trailer /Park Model RV Site.
See 3.3.4, Camping Unit Site.
3.3.14 Recreational Park Trailer Stand /Park Model RV Stand .
See 3.3.5, Camping Unit Stand.
3.3.15 Recreational Unit Site.
See 3.3.4, Camping Unit Site.
3.3.16* Recreational Vehicle (RV).
A vehicular-type unit that is primarily designed as temporary living quarters for recreational, camping, orseasonal use; has its own motive power or is mounted on or towed by another vehicle; is regulated by theNational Highway Traffic Safety Administration as a vehicle or vehicle equipment; does not require a specialhighway use permit for operation on the highways; and can be easily transported and set up on a dailybasis by an individual. [1192, 2011]
3.3.17* Recreational Vehicle Park.
See 3.3.2, Campground.
3.3.18 Recreational Vehicle Site.
See 3.3.4, Camping Unit Site.
3.3.19 Recreational Vehicle Stand.
See 3.3.5, Camping Unit Stand.
3.3.20 Sanitary Disposal Station.
A facility provided for emptying of the waste-holding tanks.
3.3.21* Service Structure.
A structure or portion thereof that is used to house sanitary facilities, such as water closets or lavatories.
3.3.22 Sewage.
Any liquid waste containing animal or vegetable matter in suspension or solution, or the water-carriedwastes resulting from the discharge of water closets, laundry tubs, washing machines, sinks, dishwashers,or any other source of water-carried waste of human origin or containing putrescible material.
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3.3.23 Sewer Branch.
For recreational vehicle parks and campgrounds, that portion of a sewer system that receives the dischargefrom more than one sewer lateral.
3.3.24 Sewer Lateral.
That portion of a sewer system that serves a single site or structure.
3.3.25 Sewer Main.
That portion of a sewer system that receives the discharge from all sewer laterals or branches within therecreational vehicle park or campground.
3.3.26 Stand.
See 3.3.5, Camping Unit Stand.
3.3.27 Utility Connection Assembly.
A single hookup assembly located on the site and containing connections for any of the following: potablewater, sewer inlets, electrical power, phone, or television.
3.3.28 Water Riser Pipe.
That portion of the water system serving the recreational vehicle, recreational park trailer, and/or othercamping unit site that extends from the water supply main through a lateral branch and terminates at awater connection.
3.3.29 Water Supply Station.
A facility for supplying potable water.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
The term Recreational Park Trailer /Park Model RV is consistent with recognized terminology used in the industry.
Submitter Information Verification
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3.3.3 Camping Cabin. A recreational unit that is a tent-like or hard-sided shelter less than 400 ft2 (37.2m2) in area.
3.3.3.1 Relocatable Camping Cabin. Typically without plumbing designed to facilitate relocation.
3.3.3.2. Permanent Camping Cabin. Structure that provides full-service amenities.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Camping Cabins are an integral part of the mix in the types of units offered at campgrounds. This would further define and clarify that there are two types of Camping Cabins.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: JEFF SIMS
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3.3.15 Recreational Park Trailer/ Park Model RV Transportation Equipment. Transportation equipmentincludes the tongue assembly, axles, wheels and tires.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Clearly defines Recreational Park Trailer/ Park Model RV Transportation Equipment.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: JEFF SIMS
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4.5.1 Recreational Park Trailer/ Park Model RV Transportation Equipment . Detached transportationequipment including tongue assembly, axles, wheels and tires shall remain on the campground either onsite or in on site storage for future use unless removal is authorized by the local AHJ. It is recommended tokeep all transportation equipment attached.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Many parks remove the transportation equipment, especially the tongue assembly (hitch) for safety reasons to avoid having anything protruding to cause a trip or fall. We want to ensure the integrity of the classification of a PMRV if any transportation equipment is removed and kept with the unit or stored on the campgrounds premises. Any removal from the premises should have prior approval from the AHJ. This will promote consistency in the RV Park and Campground industry.
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Submitter Full Name: JEFF SIMS
Organization: ARVC
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Public Input No. 9-NFPA 1194-2015 [ Section No. 4.5 ]
4.5 Recreational Park Trailers /Park Model RV .
Recreational park trailers /Park Model RV shall meet the following criteria:
(1) Be built on a single chassis mounted on wheels
(2) Have a gross trailer area not exceeding 400 ft2 (37.2 m2) in the setup mode
(3) Be certified by the manufacturer as complying with ANSI A119.5
(4) Detachable transportation equipment including the tongue assembly, axles, wheels and tires shallremain on the campground either on site or in on site storage for future use unless removal isauthorized by the local AHJ. It is recommended to keep all transportation equipment attached.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Many parks remove the transportation equipment, especially the tongue assembly (hitch), for safety reasons to avoid having anything protruding to cause a trip or fall. The Language added will ensure the integrity of the classification of a PMRV. Any removal of the transportation equipment from the premises should have prior approval from the AHJ.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: JEFF SIMS
Organization: ARVC
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Public Input No. 7-NFPA 1194-2015 [ Section No. 5.1.5 ]
5.1.5 Camping Unit Site Size.
The occupied area, including camping cabins and Recreational Park Trailer/ Park Model RV's, of acamping unit site shall not exceed 75 percent of the site area.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
The clarification is needed to insure that no unit type can exceed 75 percent of the site area.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: JEFF SIMS
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Public Input No. 8-NFPA 1194-2015 [ Section No. 5.3 ]
5.3 Recreational Park Trailer/Park Model RV Site.
5.3.1 Recreational Park Trailer /Park Model RV Stand Construction.
5.3.1.1
Each recreational park trailer /Park Model RV stand shall be installed using a method to accommodatethe recreational park trailer /Park Model RV setup and minimize the possible settling of the recreationalpark trailer /Park Model RV in its setup mode.
5.3.1.2
Recreational park trailer/Park Model RV sites shall have a potable water supply connection, sewer inletconnection, and electrical power supply for each individual recreational park trailer /Park Model RV stand.
5.3.2 Grouped Utility Connection Assembly.
The utility connections shall be permitted to be grouped together in one assembly in accordance with5.3.2.1 and 5.3.2.2.
5.3.2.1
The assembly shall be located on the left rear half of the site (left side of the recreational park trailer) within6 ft (1.8 m) of the stand.
5.3.2.2
For the purpose of providing utility connections to individual recreational park trailers, the assembly shall belisted for recreational vehicle or recreational park trailer use. [See Figure B.1(c) and Figure B.1(f) forseparate potable water supply connections, sewer inlet connections, and electrical power supply outlets atindividual recreational park trailer stands.]
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
The term Recreational Park Trailer /Park Model RV is consistent with recognized terminology used in the industry.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: JEFF SIMS
Organization: ARVC
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5.5 Accessible Camping Unit Site
5.5.1 The minimum number of camping units to provide mobility features shall be based on total numberof units provided in the campground per table 5.5.1 below:
Total Number of Camping UnitsProviding in Camping Facility
Minimum Number of Camping Unitswith Mobility Features
1 1
2 to 25 2
26 to 50 3
51 to 75 4
76 to 100 5
101 to 150 7
151 to 200 8
201 and over 8 plus 2 percent of the number over 200
Table 5.5.1
5.5.1.1 Camping units with mobility features shall be comparable to, and integrated with, camping sitesavailable to others.
5.5.1.2 At least one of each type of outdoor constructed features and other elements provided withincamping units with mobility features shall comply with the applicable technical requirements. Where morethan one of the same type of outdoor constructed feature or element is provided, requires at least two of thesame type to comply with the applicable technical requirements of section 2, 3 & 4 below.
5.5.1.3 When campground owner/operator determines that a condition does not permit full compliancewith a provision of the ADA, compliance is required to the extent practicable
5.5.1.3.1 Compliance is not practicable due to terrain.
5.5.1.3.2 Compliance cannot be accomplished with the prevailing constructionpractices.
5.5.1.3.3 Compliance would fundamentally alter the function or purpose of the facility orthe setting.
5.5.2 Parking Spaces Within Accessible Camping Unit Sites
5.5.2.1. Recreational Vehicles. Parking spaces and pull thru spaces for recreational vehicles shall be 20feet (6100 mm) wide minimum.
5.5.2.2.1 EXCEPTION: Where two adjacent parking spaces are provided for recreationalvehicles, one parking space shall be permitted to be 16 feet (4880 mm) wide minimum.
5.5.2.3 Other Vehicles. Parking spaces for vehicles, other than recreational vehicles, shall be 16 feet(4880 mm) wide minimum to accommodate vans equipped with a lift or ramp.
5.5.2.3.1 EXCEPTION: Where two adjacent parking spaces are provided for vehicles, otherthan recreational vehicles, one parking space shall be permitted to be 8 feet (2440 mm) wide minimum.
5.5.2.4 Surface. The surface of parking spaces and pull thru spaces shall be firm and stable.
5.5.2.5 Slope. The surface slope of parking and pull thru spaces shall not be steeper than 1:48 in anydirection.
5.5.2.5.1 EXCEPTION: Where the surface is other than asphalt, concrete, or boards, slopes notsteeper than 1:20 shall be permitted when necessary for drainage.
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5.5.2.6 Access Aisle. An access aisle on the driver's side of the vehicle shall measure 4 feet (1220 mm)minimum without impedance of a slideout, to enable a person using a wheel chair to access utilities locatedon the driver's side of the vehicle.
5.5.2.7 Clear Space. The clear space on the passenger side of the vehicle shall have a minimum width of8 feet (2440 mm) to accommodate a wheel chair lift for a motorized.
5.5.3. Accessible Tent Pads and Tent Platforms
5.5.3.1. General. Tent pads and tent platforms are defined spaces with prepared surfaces for setting up andsecuring tents.
5.5.3.1.1 EXCEPTION: When a campground owner/operator determines that a condition does not permitfull compliance with a specific provision, the tent pad and tent platform shall comply with the provision to theextent practicable.
5.5.3.2 Clear Ground Space. Clear ground space shall be provided on all usable sides of tent pads and tentplatforms.
5.5.3.3 Size. The clear ground space shall be 48 inches (1220 mm) wide minimum.
5.5.3.4 Surface. The surface of the clear ground space shall be firm and stable and shall allow use of tentstakes and other tent securement devices.
5.5.3.7 Slope. The slope of the surface of tent pads, tent platforms, and clear ground spaces shall not besteeper than 1:48 in any direction.
5.5.3.7.1 EXCEPTION: Where the surface is other than asphalt, concrete, or boards, slopes not steeperthan 1:20 shall be permitted where necessary for drainage.
5.5.3.8 Height. Tent platforms shall be a maximum of 19 inches (485 mm) high measured from the clearground space to the tent platform surface.
5.5.4. Accessible Outdoor Constructed Mobility Features. Picnic tables, fire rings, grills, fireplaces, woodstoves, trash and recycling receptacles, water hydrants, and utility and sewage hookups provided at outdoorrecreation facilities.
5.5.4.1. Clear Ground Space - Minimum Size and Location.
5.5.4.2 Picnic tables. 36 inches (915 mm) shall be usable on all sides of the table measured from the backedge of the benches.
5.5.4.2.1. Height. The tops of dining surfaces and work surfaces elements shall be 28 inches(710 mm) minimum and 34 inches (865 mm) maximum above the finish floor or ground (Ref. ADA 902.3).
5.5.4.2.2. Wheelchair Space. Picnic tables shall provide at least one wheelchair space for each24 linear feet (7320 mm) of usable table surface perimeter. Wheelchair spaces shall be 30 inches (760mm) minimum by 48 inches (1220 mm) minimum. Wheelchair spaces shall be positioned for a forwardapproach to the table and provide knee and toe clearance under the table.
5.5.4.2.3Knee and Toe Clearance
1) Minimum Required Depth. Where toe clearance is required at an element as part of aclear floor space, the toe clearance shall extend 17 inches (430 mm) minimum under theelement.
2) Minimum Required Depth. Where knee clearance is required under an element aspart of a clear floor space, the knee clearance shall be 11 inches (280 mm) deep minimumat 9 inches (230 mm) above the finish floor or ground, and 8 inches (205 mm) deepminimum at 27 inches (685 mm) above the finish floor or ground.
3) Width. Toe clearance shall be 30 inches (760 mm) wide minimum.
4) Width. Knee clearance shall be 30 inches (760 mm) wide minimum.
5.5.4.3. Fire rings, grills, fireplaces, and woodstoves. A minimum of 48 inches (1220 mm) by 48 inches(1220 mm) shall be provided on all usable sides of the fire ring, grill, fireplace, and woodstove. Center thespace on each usable side of the grill, fireplace, and woodstove. Fire rings with double walls or insulationon the sides are recommended to prevent burns. Where fire rings, grills, or fireplaces are constructed withraised edges or walls, the maximum depth of the raised edge or wall shall be 10 inches (254 mm).
5.5.4.3.1. Burning surface. A minimum of burning surface shall be no lower than 9 inches (230mm) above the ground.
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5.5.4.3.2. Cooking surface. Cooking surfaces shall be no less than 15 inches (381 mm) and nohigher than 34 inches (864 mm) above the clear ground space.
5.5.4.4. Trash and recycling receptacles. A minimum of 36 inches (915 mm) by 48 inches (1220 mm)positioned for forward approach to the receptacle opening; or 30 inches (760 mm) by 60 inches (1525 mm)positioned for a parallel approach to the receptacle opening shall be provided.
5.5.4.5. Water hydrants. A minimum of 72 inches (1830 mm) by 48 inches (1220 mm) with the long side ofthe space adjoining or overlapping an outdoor recreation access route or trail, as applicable, or anotherclear ground space shall be provided. The space shall be located so that the water spout is 11 inches (280mm) minimum and 12 inches (305 mm) maximum from the rear center of the long side of the space.
5.5.4.6. Utility and sewage hookups. A minimum of 30 inches (760 mm) by 60 inches (1525 mm) with thelong side of the space adjoining or overlapping an accessible parking space or pull thru space forrecreational vehicles shall be provided. The space shall be located so that the hook-ups are at the rearcenter of the space. Bollards or other barriers shall not obstruct the clear ground space in front of thehook-ups. .
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
The US Access Board has developed the Standards for Outdoor Developed Areas which includes campsites under Title I for Federal facilities. While these have not been developed yet for the public accommodations under Title III yet, the proposed accessibility guidelines in this public input have modeled after the Title I and will provide clear and concise direction for accessibility compliance in the private RV Park and Campground industry.
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Public Input No. 12-NFPA 1194-2015 [ Section No. 7.8.2 ]
7.8.2 Waste Treatment System.
The waste treatement sytem treatment system design capacity shall be based on a minimum discharge of50 gallons (189.3 L) per day per site and a maximum discharge of 100 gallons (378.5 L) per day per site.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Typo in text, corrected
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Submitter Full Name: WADE ELLIOTT
Organization: UTILITY SUPPLY GROUP
Affilliation: National Association of RV Parks and Campgrounds
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Chapter 8 Operations Standards
8.1. Length of Stay.
8.1.1. General. The length of stay for a transient guest should be market driven and determined bycampground management and not by AHJ’s.
8.1.2. Transient Guest. The occupant of a camping unit site cannot use the site as an address,permanent residence or domicile irrespective of the length of stay. A transient guest relationship isestablished because it is not lasting, enduring, or permanent. To ensure residency is not established, thetransient relationship shall not exceed 9 months.
8.1.3. Landlord/Tenant. A landlord/tenant relationship is not established for transient guests.
8.2 Guest Removal/Ejection
8.2.1 Campground Owner. The owner or operator of a campground or an agent of suchowner or operator.
8.2.2 Transient Guest. The occupant of a camping unit site cannot use the site as an address,permanent residence or domicile irrespective of the length of stay. A transient guest relationship isestablished because it is not lasting, enduring, or permanent and not a landlord/tenant relationship.
8.2.3 Written Policies. A campground owner shall post written policies in a high traffic areaon the campground, on the campground website and distribute to registered guests or visitors uponarrival at the campground a written policy on campground curfew, alcohol use, tobacco use, petpolicy, etc.
8.2.3.1 Signed Written Policy. The campground owner should obtain from the guest or visitorupon registration a signed copy of the written policies acknowledging they have agreed to abide bythose policies during their stay.
8.2.3.2 Discrimination. A park owner may not have any policies that discriminate based uponrace, color, national origin, sex, physical disability, or creed.
8.2.4 Ejection/Removal. A campground owner may eject/remove a person from thecampground and notify the appropriate local law enforcement authorities of any person who:
1) Is not a registered guest or visitor of the campground.
2) Remains on the campground beyond an agreed-upon departure time and date.
3) Defaults in the payment of any lawfully imposed registration or visitor fee or charge.
4) Creates a disturbance that denies other persons their right to quiet enjoyment of thecampground necessary for the preservation of public peace, health, and safety.
5) Violates any federal, state, or local law.
8.2.5 Trespass. A person who remains on a campground after having been asked to leaveby a campground owner for violating any of the written policies shall be guilty of trespass, subject topossible penalties and may be removed summarily by the campground owner or a law enforcementofficer.
8.2.6 Refunds. A person who is removed from a campground shall be entitled to a refundof the unused portion of any prepaid fees, less any amount otherwise owed to the campgroundowner or deducted for damages, which unused portion of prepaid fees may be prorated at a ratethat is based upon the daily rate charged by the campground owner.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This chapter is needed to provide clarification in guidance and consistency for the RV Park and Campground industry and local AHJ’s. This guidance will provide a distinction between the transient guest relationship that
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exists with an RV Park and Campground as opposed to a residency landlord/tenant relationship at a mobile home park. This will enhance the health and safety of guests and the RV Park and Campground operator by providing clear guidance for guest removal/ejection to the appropriate AHJ.
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Public Input No. 2-NFPA 1194-2014 [ Chapter D ]
Annex D Informational References
D.1 Referenced Publications.
The documents or portions thereof listed in this annex are referenced within the informational sections ofthis standard and are not part of the requirements of this document unless also listed in Chapter 2 for otherreasons.
D.1.1 NFPA Publications.
National Fire Protection Association, 1 Batterymarch Park, Quincy, MA 02169-7471.
NFPA 1144, Standard for Reducing Structure Ignition Hazards from Wildland Fire, 2013 edition .
NFPA 1192, Standard on Recreational Vehicles, 2011 edition 2015 .
NFPA 1600, Standard on Disaster/Emergency Management and Business Continuity Programs, 2013edition .
D.1.2 Other Publications.
D.1.2.1 ANSI Publications.
American National Standards Institute, Inc., 25 West 43rd Street, 4th floor, New York, NY 10036.
ANSI A117.1, Accessible and Usable Buildings and Facilities, 2003 2009 .
ANSI A119.2/NFPA 1192, Standard on Recreational Vehicles , 2011.ANSI A119. 5, Standard forRecreational Park Trailers, 1998 2009 .
D.2 Informational References.
The following documents or portions thereof are listed here as informational resources only. They are not apart of the requirements of this document.
D.2.1 ASTM Publications.
ASTM International, 100 Barr Harbor Drive, P.O. Box C700, West Conshohocken, PA 19428-2959.
ASTM Volume 15.07, Sports Equipment and Facilities, 2006 ; Pedestrain/Walkway Safety andFootwear; Amusement Rides and Devices and Snow Skiing , 2014 .
ASTM F1487, Standard Consumer Safety Performance Specification for Playground Equipment for PublicUse, 2007 2011 .
ASTM F1346, Standard Performance Specification for Safety Covers and Labeling Requirements for AllCovers for Swimming Pools, Spas, and Hot Tubs, 2003 2010 .
ASTM F2631, Standard Practice for Installation of Chain-Link Fence for Outdoor Sports Fields, SportsCourts, and Other Recreational Facilities, 2007.
ASTM F2291, Standard Practice for Design of Amusement Rides and Devices, 2006 2013 .
D.2.2 NSPI APSP Publications.
National Spa and Pool Institute Association of Pool and Spa Professionals , 2111 Eisenhower Avenue,Alexandria, VA 22314.
ANSI/NSPI- APSP 1, Standard for Public Swimming Pools, 2003.
D.2.3 U.S. DOT Publications.
U.S. Government Printing Government Publishing Office, Washington, DC 20402.
Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices (MUTCD), Federal Highway Administration, Title 23, Code ofFederal Regulations, Part 655, Subpart F, 2003 2009 .
D.3 References for Extracts in Informational Sections.
NFPA 1192, Standard on Recreational Vehicles, 2011 edition 2015 .
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Referenced current editions.
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Related Public Inputs for This Document
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Public Input No. 1-NFPA 1194-2014 [Chapter 2] Referenced current editions.
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Attachment #3: Committee Roster
Address List No PhoneRecreational Vehicles REC-AAA
Chad Duffy09/02/2015
REC-AAA
Doug Mulvaney
ChairKampgrounds of America, Inc.Facilities Development DirectorPO Box 30558Billings, MT 59114Alternate: Chris Fairlee
U 10/28/2008REC-AAA
Bruce A. Hopkins
SecretaryRecreation Vehicle Industry Association1896 Preston White DrivePO Box 2999Reston, VA 20195-0999Alternate: Kent Perkins
M 1/1/1981
REC-AAA
Leo Akins
PrincipalForest River, Inc.2324 Century DriveGoshen, IN 46528
M 03/03/2014REC-AAA
Thomas R. Arnold
PrincipalT. R. Arnold & Associates, Inc.PO Box 1081Elkhart, IN 46515Alternate: Theodore P. Huff
RT 7/16/2003
REC-AAA
Charles N. Ballard
PrincipalPacific West Associates, Inc.PO Box 40140Casper, WY 82604
SE 10/1/1999REC-AAA
Christopher J. Bloom
PrincipalCJB Fire Consultants2654 East Gregory RoadPO Box 2611White City, OR 97503Alternate: Joseph M. Bloom
SE 7/1/1993
REC-AAA
Jeffrey A. Christner
PrincipalGrand Design RV, LLC11333 County Road 2Middlebury, IN 46540-9632
M 1/12/2000REC-AAA
Jeff D. Colwell
PrincipalColwell Consulting14614 North Kierland Blvd Ste N200Phoenix, AZ 85027Alternate: Christopher Henry
SE 1/14/2005
REC-AAA
Richard L. Day
PrincipalMichigan State Fire Marshal's Office207 Jackson StreetAllegan, MI 49010-9156
E 07/29/2013REC-AAA
Dean Foster
PrincipalThetford Corporation7101 Jackson RoadPO Box 1285Ann Arbor, MI 48106
M 7/16/2003
REC-AAA
Douglas Haas
PrincipalFleetwood RV, Inc.1031 US 224 EastDecatur, IN 46733
M 7/26/2007REC-AAA
Khaled E. Habib
PrincipalCSA International1707 94th Street, NWEdmonton, AB T6N 1E6 Canada
RT 8/5/2009
REC-AAA
John P. Harvey
Principal1620 Oak Avenue, NEOlympia, WA 98506-4464
SE 1/1/1992REC-AAA
Ryan Hyer
PrincipalTesting Engineers International3455 South 500 WestSalt Lake City, UT 84115-4234
RT 08/11/2014
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Address List No PhoneRecreational Vehicles REC-AAA
Chad Duffy09/02/2015
REC-AAA
Dale Jordal
PrincipalWinnebago Industries, Inc.605 West Crystal Lake RoadPO Box 152Forest City, IA 50436
M 4/17/2002REC-AAA
Richard H. Klein
PrincipalRichard Klein Consulting Engineers13010 West Castelbar DriveSun City West, AZ 85375
SE 10/27/2009
REC-AAA
Bob Livingston
PrincipalGood Sam Media & Events2575 Vista Del MarVentura, CA 93001
IM 7/16/2003REC-AAA
Mark Luttich
PrincipalNebraska Public Service CommissionHousing & Recreational Vehicle Department300 The Atrium, 1200 N StreetPO Box 94927Lincoln, NE 68509-4927
E 1/1/1986
REC-AAA
David M. Mihalick
PrincipalThor Industries Inc.419 West Pike StreetJackson Center, OH 45334-9728Alternate: Joe Kleinknight
M 11/2/2006REC-AAA
Kerry Parrott
PrincipalStahl Engineering & Failure Analysis, LLC3201 Stellhorn Road, Suite C149Fort Wayne, IN 46815-4697Alternate: Douglas R. Stahl
SE 8/9/2011
REC-AAA
Craig Sedlacek
PrincipalWashington State Department of Labor & IndustriesPO Box 44430Olympia, WA 98504-4430
E 10/29/2012REC-AAA
Paul Sinclair
PrincipalBucars RV Centre262109 Range Road #10Balzac, AB T0M 0E0 CanadaRecreation Vehicle Dealers Association of Canada
M 10/29/2012
REC-AAA
Homer A. Staves
PrincipalStaves Consulting Inc.3191 ParkhillBillings, MT 59102Alternate: Neil Staves
SE 1/1/1988REC-AAA
Bruce J. Swiecicki
PrincipalNational Propane Gas Association21200 South LaGrange Road, Suite 353Frankfort, IL 60423National Propane Gas AssociationAlternate: Samuel E. McTier
IM 7/16/2003
REC-AAA
Monte L. Taylor
PrincipalState of OregonBuilding Codes DivisionPO Box 14470Salem, OR 97309
E 7/23/2008REC-AAA
Leslie Woodward
PrincipalFairview Fittings & Manufacturing Inc.3777 Commerce CourtWheatfield, NY 14120
IM 7/28/2006
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Address List No PhoneRecreational Vehicles REC-AAA
Chad Duffy09/02/2015
REC-AAA
Wade Elliott
Voting AlternateUtility Services Group, Inc.26519 Bond Road NEKingston, WA 98346National Association of RV Parks & CampgroundsVoting Alt. to ARVC Rep.
U 8/5/2009REC-AAA
Joseph M. Bloom
AlternateBloom Fire InvestigationPO Box 207Grants Pass, OR 97528Principal: Christopher J. Bloom
SE 1/1/1991
REC-AAA
Chris Fairlee
AlternateKampgrounds of America, Inc.PO Box 30558Billings, MT 59114Principal: Doug Mulvaney
U 10/23/2013REC-AAA
Christopher Henry
AlternateColwell Consulting14614 N Kierland Boulevard, Suite N200Scottsdale, AZ 85254Principal: Jeff D. Colwell
SE 10/28/2014
REC-AAA
Theodore P. Huff
AlternateT. R. Arnold & Associates, Inc.PO Box 1081Elkhart, IN 46515Principal: Thomas R. Arnold
RT 7/16/2003REC-AAA
Joe Kleinknight
AlternateKeystone RV Company2642 Hackberry DriveGoshen, IN 46526Principal: David M. Mihalick
M 8/5/2009
REC-AAA
Samuel E. McTier
AlternatePropane Technologies, LLC975 Kirkhill LaneLake Forest, IL 60045National Propane Gas AssociationPrincipal: Bruce J. Swiecicki
IM 1/17/1997REC-AAA
Kent Perkins
AlternateRecreation Vehicle Industry Association1896 Preston White DriveReston, VA 20191-0999Principal: Bruce A. Hopkins
M 1/1/1988
REC-AAA
Douglas R. Stahl
AlternateStahl Engineering & Failure Analysis, LLC3201 Stellhorn Road, Suite C149Fort Wayne, IN 46815Principal: Kerry Parrott
SE 03/07/2013REC-AAA
Neil Staves
AlternateStaves Consulting5125 Highway 93 SouthWhitefish, MT 59937Principal: Homer A. Staves
SE 10/27/2009
REC-AAA
Chad Duffy
Staff LiaisonNational Fire Protection Association1 Batterymarch ParkQuincy, MA 02169-7471
4/18/2011
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