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Technical Committee on Sprinkler System Discharge Criteria M E M O R A N D U M DATE: May 30, 2017 TO: Principal and Alternate Members of the Technical Committee on Sprinkler System Discharge Criteria FROM: Chad Duffy, Senior Fire Protection Specialist/NFPA Staff Liaison SUBJECT: AUT-SSD AGENDA PACKAGE A2018 Second Draft Meeting ________________________________________________________________________ Enclosed is the agenda for the Second Draft meeting for NFPA 13, Standard for the Installation of Sprinkler Systems. NFPA 13 has entered the Annual 2018 revision cycle and will produce a 2019 Edition. It is imperative that you review the attached public comments in advance, with your ideas and substantiations for your views. If you have alternate suggestions for text changes, please come prepared with the words and respective substantiation. For administrative questions, please feel free to contact Elena Carroll at (617) 984-7952. For technical questions, please feel free to contact Chad Duffy at (617) 984-7562. You can also reach either of us via e-mail at [email protected] or [email protected]. We look forward to meeting everyone in Raleigh, NC at the Renaissance Raleigh North Hills Hotel. 1

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Technical Committee on

Sprinkler System Discharge Criteria

M E M O R A N D U M

DATE: May 30, 2017

TO: Principal and Alternate Members of the Technical Committee on Sprinkler System

Discharge Criteria

FROM: Chad Duffy, Senior Fire Protection Specialist/NFPA Staff Liaison

SUBJECT: AUT-SSD AGENDA PACKAGE – A2018 Second Draft Meeting

________________________________________________________________________

Enclosed is the agenda for the Second Draft meeting for NFPA 13, Standard for the Installation

of Sprinkler Systems. NFPA 13 has entered the Annual 2018 revision cycle and will produce a

2019 Edition. It is imperative that you review the attached public comments in advance, with your

ideas and substantiations for your views. If you have alternate suggestions for text changes, please

come prepared with the words and respective substantiation.

For administrative questions, please feel free to contact Elena Carroll at (617) 984-7952.

For technical questions, please feel free to contact Chad Duffy at (617) 984-7562. You can

also reach either of us via e-mail at [email protected] or [email protected]. We look forward to

meeting everyone in Raleigh, NC at the Renaissance Raleigh North Hills Hotel.

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Table of Contents

Part 1 - Meeting Agenda

Part 2 - Committee Address List

Part 3 – New Process Worksheets

Part 4 – A2018 First Draft Meeting Minutes

Part 5 - A2018 Key Dates

Part 6- SSD Public Comments

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PART 1 –

MEETING AGENDA

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Technical Committee on

Sprinkler System Discharge Criteria

Second Draft Meeting

June 28-29, 2017 Renaissance Raleigh North Hills Hotel

4100 Main at North Hills Street

Raleigh, NC 27609

AGENDA

Wednesday, June 28, 2017

1. Call to Order – 8:00 AM

2. Introductions of Members and Staff

3. Review and Approval of A2018 First Draft Meeting Minutes

4. Review of A2018 Revision Cycle and Meeting Schedule

5. Review of Distributed Material and Workload

b. Overview of Public Comments

c. Overview of Potential Committee Second Revisions

6. Task Group Reports

a. Test Report task Group

b. Chapter 17 Task Group

7. Review Public Comments

Thursday, June 29, 2017

8. Reconvene 8:00AM (Time Subject to Change)

9. Review Public Comments/Generate Second Revisions

10. Adjournment TBD

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PART 2 –

COMMITTEE ADDRESS LIST

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Address List No PhoneSprinkler System Discharge Criteria AUT-SSD

Automatic Sprinkler Systems

David R. Hague05/25/2017

AUT-SSD

Russell B. Leavitt

ChairTelgian Corporation10230 S. 50th PlacePhoenix, AZ 85044Alternate: Tracey D. Bellamy

SE 03/05/2012AUT-SSD

Carl P. Anderson

PrincipalThe Fire Protection International Consortium1420 Marvin Road NE, #432Lacey, WA 98516Washington State Association of Fire Marshals

E 7/20/2000

AUT-SSD

Weston C. Baker, Jr.

PrincipalFM Global1151 Boston Providence TurnpikePO Box 9102Norwood, MA 02062-9102Alternate: Angele Morcos

I 7/19/2002AUT-SSD

Charles O. Bauroth

PrincipalLiberty Mutual36 Willow LaneUxbridge, MA 01569Alternate: Skip Donnell

I 1/18/2001

AUT-SSD

Kerry M. Bell

PrincipalUL LLC333 Pfingsten RoadNorthbrook, IL 60062-2096Alternate: Pravinray D. Gandhi

RT 10/10/1997AUT-SSD

Thomas G. Deegan

PrincipalViking Group, Inc.3033 Orchard Vista SE, Suite 308Grand Rapids, MI 49546-7077Alternate: Martin H. Workman

M 7/12/2001

AUT-SSD

John August Denhardt

PrincipalStrickland Fire Protection, Inc.4011 Penn BeltForestville, MD 20747-4737American Fire Sprinkler AssociationInstaller/MaintainerAlternate: Steven J. Scandaliato

IM 1/16/1998AUT-SSD

James Dockrill

PrincipalJ&S Fire Sprinkler Design & Consulting55 Woodrow StreetSt. Catharines, ON L2P 2A4 CanadaCanadian Automatic Sprinkler AssociationAlternate: Jason W. Ryckman

IM 08/09/2012

AUT-SSD

Abram Selim Fouad

PrincipalElite Consolidated Engineers11, 12 Moustafa Refaat StreetSheraton HelioplisCairo, Egypt

SE 08/17/2015AUT-SSD

Bo Hjorth

PrincipalAlbaCon ABBox 619Nacka, 13121 SwedenAlternate: Joakim Bauer

SE 3/21/2006

AUT-SSD

Donald Hopkins, Jr.

PrincipalJENSEN HUGHES3610 Commerce Drive, Suite 817Baltimore, MD 21227-1652JENSEN HUGHESAlternate: Garner A. Palenske

SE 9/30/2004AUT-SSD

Mark Hopkins

PrincipalNational Fire Sprinkler Association514 Progress Drive, Suite ALinthicum Heights, MD 21090National Fire Sprinkler AssociationDesign TechnicianAlternate: Jon R. Ackley

M 11/30/2016

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Address List No PhoneSprinkler System Discharge Criteria AUT-SSD

Automatic Sprinkler Systems

David R. Hague05/25/2017

AUT-SSD

Roland J. Huggins

PrincipalAmerican Fire Sprinkler Association, Inc.12750 Merit Drive, Suite 350Dallas, TX 75251-1273American Fire Sprinkler AssociationDesignAlternate: James M. Fantauzzi

IM 10/10/1997AUT-SSD

Kenneth E. Isman

PrincipalUniversity of Maryland7402 Forests Edge CourtLaurel, MD 20707Alternate: Milosh T. Puchovsky

SE 7/26/2007

AUT-SSD

Sultan M. Javeri

PrincipalSC Engineering2 Impasse Du GuernehlieLa Trinite, Surzur, 56190 France

IM 10/10/1997AUT-SSD

Larry Keeping

PrincipalPLC Fire Safety Solutions3413 Wolfedale Road, Suite 6Mississauga, ON L5C 1V8 Canada

SE 10/10/1997

AUT-SSD

Kevin J. Kelly

PrincipalVictaulic4901 Kesslersville RoadEaston, PA 18040-6714National Fire Sprinkler AssociationManufacturerAlternate: Brian Hoening

M 04/05/2016AUT-SSD

Elham Klausbruckner

PrincipalKlausbruckner & Associates, Inc.2495 Truxtun Road, Suite 205San Diego, CA 92106-6159

SE 10/29/2012

AUT-SSD

William E. Koffel

PrincipalKoffel Associates, Inc.8815 Centre Park Drive, Suite 200Columbia, MD 21045-2107Alternate: Mark J. Aaby

SE 10/1/1999AUT-SSD

Chris LaFleur

PrincipalSandia National LaboratoriesRisk & Reliability DepartmentPO Box 5800, MS-0748Albuquerque, NM 87185-0909Alternate: Tomas M. Sanchez

U 04/05/2001

AUT-SSD

Kenneth W. Linder

PrincipalSwiss Re2 Waterside Crossing, Suite 200Windsor, CT 06095-1588Alternate: Joseph A. Lynch

I 7/28/2006AUT-SSD

Stuart Lloyd

PrincipalZurich Risk Engineering UK5 Margrove CloseFailsworth, Manchester, M35 9XQ Great BritainAlternate: Richard A. Gallagher

I 08/17/2015

AUT-SSD

Brian Mosberian

PrincipalCity of Phoenix200 West WashingtonPhoenix, AZ 85003

E 03/07/2013AUT-SSD

Richard Pehrson

PrincipalPehrson Fire PC7455 France Avenue South, Suite 271Edina, MN 55435International Fire Marshals AssociationAlternate: Daniel A. Kaiser

E 7/22/1999

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Address List No PhoneSprinkler System Discharge Criteria AUT-SSD

Automatic Sprinkler Systems

David R. Hague05/25/2017

AUT-SSD

Kenneth R. Schneider

PrincipalUA - ITFTraining Specialist3723 S. BroadwaySt. Louis, MO 63118United Assn. of Journeymen & Apprentices of thePlumbing & Pipe Fitting IndustryAlternate: Robert C. Holliday

L 03/05/2012AUT-SSD

Peter T. Schwab

PrincipalWayne Automatic Fire Sprinklers, Inc.222 Capitol CourtOcoee, FL 34761-3033Alternate: Ryan Peterson

IM 8/2/2010

AUT-SSD

Michael D. Sides

PrincipalGlobal Asset Protection Services, LLC1360 Olympia Park CircleOcoee, FL 34761Alternate: Mark A. Bowman

I 7/16/2003AUT-SSD

Manuel Silva

PrincipalTyco Fire Products, LP1467 Elmwood AvenueCranston, RI 02910-3849Alternate: Terry L. Victor

M 08/03/2016

AUT-SSD

Gary T. Smith

PrincipalDACS, Inc.PO Box 161Great Meadows, NJ 07838Rack Manufacturers InstituteAlternate: Gerald R. Schultz

M 08/09/2012AUT-SSD

William B. Smith

PrincipalCode Consultants, Inc.2043 Woodland Parkway, Suite 300St. Louis, MO 63146-4235Alternate: Thomas Larry Frank

SE 08/09/2012

AUT-SSD

Jack W. Thacker

PrincipalShambaugh and Sons5430 E The ToledoLong Beach, CA 90803National Fire Sprinkler AssociationContractorAlternate: George W. Stanley

IM 10/10/1997AUT-SSD

Warren Douglas Wilson

PrincipalScottsdale Fire Department7447 E Indian School Road, Suite 125Scottsdale, AZ 85251

E 3/3/2014

AUT-SSD

Steven D. Wolin

PrincipalReliable Automatic Sprinkler Company, Inc.1470 Smith Grove RoadLiberty, SC 29657-4305Alternate: Thomas L. Multer

M 10/28/2014AUT-SSD

Michael Six

Voting AlternateBremerton Fire Department911 Park AvenueBremerton, WA 98337

E 10/28/2014

AUT-SSD

Mark J. Aaby

AlternateKoffel Associates, Inc.8815 Centre Park Drive, Suite 200Columbia, MD 21045-2107Principal: William E. Koffel

SE 3/4/2008AUT-SSD

Jon R. Ackley

AlternateDalmatian Fire, Inc.5670 West 73rd StreetIndianapolis, IN 46278National Fire Sprinkler AssociationDesign TechnicianPrincipal: Mark Hopkins

M 10/29/2012

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Address List No PhoneSprinkler System Discharge Criteria AUT-SSD

Automatic Sprinkler Systems

David R. Hague05/25/2017

AUT-SSD

Joakim Bauer

AlternateAlbaCon ABBox 619Nacka, 13121 SwedenPrincipal: Bo Hjorth

SE 10/29/2012AUT-SSD

Tracey D. Bellamy

AlternateTelgian Corporation900 Circle 75 Parkway, Suite 680Atlanta, GA 30339-3084Principal: Russell B. Leavitt

SE 1/10/2008

AUT-SSD

Mark A. Bowman

AlternateGlobal Asset Protection Services, LLC13467 Chevington DrivePickerington, OH 43147Principal: Michael D. Sides

I 7/16/2003AUT-SSD

Skip Donnell

AlternateLiberty Mutual Insurance CompanyEngineering Manager – Central3350 Carly LaneIndianapolis, IN 46235-9146Principal: Charles O. Bauroth

I 04/04/2017

AUT-SSD

James M. Fantauzzi

AlternateNorth East Fire Protection Systems Inc.318 Charlton RoadBallston, NY 12020American Fire Sprinkler AssociationDesignPrincipal: Roland J. Huggins

IM 04/05/2016AUT-SSD

Thomas Larry Frank

AlternateCode Consultants, Inc.2043 Woodland Parkway, Suite 300Saint Louis, MO 63146Principal: William B. Smith

SE 10/28/2014

AUT-SSD

Richard A. Gallagher

AlternateZurich Services Corporation5124 New Kent RoadWilmington, DE 19808-2706Principal: Stuart Lloyd

I 08/17/2015AUT-SSD

Pravinray D. Gandhi

AlternateUL LLC333 Pfingsten RoadNorthbrook, IL 60062-2096Principal: Kerry M. Bell

RT 4/5/2001

AUT-SSD

Brian Hoening

AlternateGlobe Fire Sprinkler Corporation4077 Air Park DriveStandish, MI 48658National Fire Sprinkler AssociationManufacturerPrincipal: Kevin J. Kelly

M 08/03/2016AUT-SSD

Robert C. Holliday

AlternateSprinkler Fitters LU 268 JAC1544 South 3rd StreetSt. Louis, MO 63104United Assn. of Journeymen & Apprentices of thePlumbing & Pipe Fitting IndustryPrincipal: Kenneth R. Schneider

L 10/29/2012

AUT-SSD

Daniel A. Kaiser

AlternateMinnesota Department of Public SafetyState Fire Marshal Division203 SW 3rd StreetMedford, MN 55049International Fire Marshals AssociationPrincipal: Richard Pehrson

E 03/05/2012AUT-SSD

Joseph A. Lynch

AlternateSwiss Re1150 Sanctuary Parkway, Suite 425Alpharetta, GA 30009Principal: Kenneth W. Linder

I 04/05/2016

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Address List No PhoneSprinkler System Discharge Criteria AUT-SSD

Automatic Sprinkler Systems

David R. Hague05/25/2017

AUT-SSD

Angele Morcos

AlternateFM Global1151 Boston-Providence TurnpikeNorwood, MA 02062-9102Principal: Weston C. Baker, Jr.

I 07/29/2013AUT-SSD

Thomas L. Multer

AlternateReliable Automatic Sprinkler Company, Inc.1470 Smith Grove RoadLiberty, SC 29657-4305Principal: Steven D. Wolin

M 12/08/2015

AUT-SSD

Garner A. Palenske

AlternateJensen Hughes/AON Fire Protection Engineering11770 Bernardo Plaza Court, Suite 116San Diego, CA 92128JENSEN HUGHESPrincipal: Donald Hopkins, Jr.

SE 7/20/2000AUT-SSD

Ryan Peterson

AlternateWayne Auto Fire Sprinklers4683 Laredo AvenueFort Myers, FL 33905Principal: Peter T. Schwab

IM 04/04/2017

AUT-SSD

Milosh T. Puchovsky

AlternateWorcester Polytechnic InstituteDepartment of Fire Protection Engineering100 Institute RoadWorcester, MA 01609Principal: Kenneth E. Isman

SE 10/28/2014AUT-SSD

Jason W. Ryckman

AlternateCanadian Automatic Sprinkler Association335 Renfrew Drive, Suite 302Markham, ON L3R 9S9 CanadaPrincipal: James Dockrill

IM 10/28/2014

AUT-SSD

Tomas M. Sanchez

AlternateSandia National LaboratoriesPO Box 5800 - MS 0909Albuquerque, NM 87185-0909Principal: Chris LaFleur

U 11/30/2016AUT-SSD

Steven J. Scandaliato

AlternateSDG, LLC15502 Pilgrim Hall DriveFriendswood, TX 77546American Fire Sprinkler AssociationInstaller/MaintainerPrincipal: John August Denhardt

IM 8/9/2011

AUT-SSD

Gerald R. Schultz

AlternateThe FPI Consortium, Inc.7501Lemont RoadWoodridge, IL 60517Rack Manufacturers InstitutePrincipal: Gary T. Smith

M 08/09/2012AUT-SSD

George W. Stanley

AlternateWiginton Fire Protection Engineering, Inc.699 Aero LaneSanford, FL 32771National Fire Sprinkler AssociationContractorPrincipal: Jack W. Thacker

IM 1/16/2003

AUT-SSD

Terry L. Victor

AlternateTyco/SimplexGrinnell3621 Carrollton RoadUpperco, MD 21155Principal: Manuel Silva

M 10/29/2012AUT-SSD

Martin H. Workman

AlternateThe Viking Corporation210 North Industrial Park RoadHastings, MI 49058Principal: Thomas G. Deegan

M 1/15/2004

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Address List No PhoneSprinkler System Discharge Criteria AUT-SSD

Automatic Sprinkler Systems

David R. Hague05/25/2017

AUT-SSD

Barry M. Lee

Nonvoting MemberWorlmwold16 Payten StreetKogarah Bay, NSW 2217 AustraliaTyco Fire Protection Products

M 10/10/1997AUT-SSD

David R. Hague

Staff LiaisonNational Fire Protection Assocation1 Batterymarch ParkQuincy, MA 02169-7471

3/18/2016

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PART 3 –

NEW PROCESS WORKSHEETS

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NEW PROCESS ACTIONS AND MOTIONS

Possible Action #1: Accept Public Comment (exactly as it is)

Action Required Sample motion

Create a Second Revision I move to create a Second Revision using PC #

______.

Possible action #2: Reject but see (revise submitted text)

Action Required Sample motion

Step 1 Create a Second Revision based on a

Public Comment

I move to create a Second Revision based on PC # _____with the following changes to the text . .

.

Step 2 If the revision is related to multiple PCs,

respond to all of them together using the cart function

I move to create a Second Revision based on PC # ____and incorporating PC #s _____with the

following changes to the text . . .

Possible action #3: Reject (no change to the standard)

Action Required Sample motion

Generate a statement (substantiation) I move to reject PC # ____ with the following

substantiation . . .

Possible Action #4: Reject but hold (new material)

Action Required Sample motion

Reject Public Comment for this cycle, but

save for next revision cycle

I move to reject PC # ____ but hold it for consideration during the First Draft meeting next

cycle.

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PART 4 –

A2018 FIRST DRAFT MEETING MINUTES

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Technical Committee on Sprinkler System Discharge

First Draft Meeting

Marriott Gas Lamp Hotel

San Diego, CA

August 15-17, 2016

1. Russ Leavitt TC Chair called the meeting to order at 8:00am and self

introductions were made (see attached attendance list).

2. Minutes of the Pre-First Draft meeting were approved as amended:

a. Wes Baker – FM Global and Charlie Bauroth – Liberty Mutual were in

attendance in San Antonio

b. Water Supply Task Group also included James Dockrill, Brian Honig and

Tomas Sanchez

3. SL Dave Hague gave the staff report and meeting procedures.

4. The committee then acted on Public Input (PI’s) and First Revisions (FR’s) based

on Task Group Reports (see attached listing of Task Groups) and individual

action on same.

5. The following Task Groups were established:

a. Test Report Task Group – Ken Isman Chair, Wes Baker, Will Smith, Lou

Guerrazzi, Tom Degan, Kerry Bell, Rich Pehrson, Kevin Kelly & Brian

Hoening. Deliverables include a list of items that the Technical Committee

needs from test lab reports on sprinklers for inclusion in the Annex of the

standard.

b. Chapter 17 Task Group – Roland Huggins Chair, Vicky Valentine, Cecil

Bilbo, Mark Hopkins, Tracy Bellamy and Martin Workman. Deliverables

include a complete review of the accuracy of all figures in Chapter 17,

specifically sprinklers that are shown outside the boundary of the rack

system.

6. The Second Draft Meeting will be held during the week of June 25, 2017 in

Raleigh, NC.

7. The meeting adjourned at 3:52 pm on the 17th.

Dave Hague NFPA Staff Liaison

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Sign-In Sheet

Sprinkler System Discharge Criteria

First Draft Meeting

August 15 - 18, 2016

San Diego, CA

9 19, 1

Name Office Organization

Leavitt, Russell Chair Telgian Corporation

Baker, Weston Principal FM Global

Bauroth, Charles Principal Liberty Mutual

Bell, Kerry Principal UL LLC

Deegan, Thomas Principal Viking Group, Inc.

Denhardt, John Principal American Fire Sprinkler Association

Dockrill, James Principal Canadian Automatic Sprinkler Association

Fouad, Abram Selim Principal Elite Consolidated Engineers

Hjorth, Bo Principal AlbaCon AB

Hopkins, Donald Principal JENSEN HUGHES

Huggins, Roland Principal American Fire Sprinkler Association

Isman, Kenneth Principal University of Maryland

Javeri, Sultan Principal SC Engineering

Keeping, Larry Principal PLC Fire Safety Solutions

Kelly, Kevin Principal National Fire Sprinkler Association

Klausbruckner, Elham Principal Klausbruckner & Associates, Inc.

Koffel, William Principal Koffel Associates, Inc.

LaFleur, Chris Principal Sandia National Laboratories

Linder, Kenneth Principal Swiss Re

Lloyd, Stuart Principal Zurich Risk Engineering UK

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Sign-In Sheet

Sprinkler System Discharge Criteria

First Draft Meeting

August 15 - 18, 2016

San Diego, CA

9 19, 2

Name Office Organization

Pehrson, Richard Principal International Fire Marshals Association

Schwab, Peter Principal Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinklers, Inc.

Sides, Michael Principal XL Global Asset Protection Services

Silva, Manuel Principal Tyco Fire Products, LP

Smith, Gary Principal Rack Manufacturers Institute

Smith, William Principal Code Consultants, Inc.

Thacker, Jack Principal National Fire Sprinkler Association

Valentine, Victoria Principal National Fire Sprinkler Association

Wilson, Douglas Principal City of San Diego

Wolin, Steven Principal Reliable Automatic Sprinkler Company,

Victor, Terry Voting Alternate Tyco Fire Protection Products

Ackley, Jon Alternate National Fire Sprinkler Association

Bellamy, Tracey Alternate Telgian Corporation

Fantauzzi, James Alternate American Fire Sprinkler Association

Frank, Thomas Alternate Code Consultants, Inc.

Gallagher, Richard Alternate Zurich Services Corporation

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Sign-In Sheet

Sprinkler System Discharge Criteria

First Draft Meeting

August 15 - 18, 2016

San Diego, CA

9 19, 3

Name Office Organization

Holliday, Robert Alternate United Assn. of Journeymen & Apprentices

Lynch, Joseph Alternate Swiss Re, Global Asset Protection

Morcos, Angele Alternate FM Global

Multer, Thomas Alternate Reliable Automatic Sprinkler Company,

Palenske, Garner Alternate JENSEN HUGHES

Puchovsky, Milosh Alternate Worcester Polytechnic Institute

Scandaliato, Steven Alternate American Fire Sprinkler Association

Schultz, Gerald Alternate Rack Manufacturers Institute

Workman, Martin Alternate The Viking Corporation

Hague, David Staff Liaison National Fire Protection Association

Guests: Karl Wiegand Globe Fire Sprinkler Bob Caputo Fire & Life Safety America Manuel Silva Tyco Fire Protection Produts Brian Hoening National Fire Sprinkler Association Mark Hopkins National Fire Sprinkler Association Barry Chase NFPA Debbie Hanig Telgian Corp. Khela Thorne NFPA Tomas Sanchez Sandia National Labs Louis Guerrazu NFSA Cecil Bilbo Fire Sprinkler Academy

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PART 5 –

A2018 KEY DATES

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Process 

StageProcess Step Dates for TC

Dates for TC 

with CC

Public Input Closing Date  6/29/2016 6/29/2016

Final date for TC First Draft Meeting 12/7/2016 9/7/2016Posting of First Draft and TC Ballot  1/25/2017 10/19/2016Final date for Receipt of TC First Draft ballot 2/15/2017 11/9/2016Final date for Receipt of TC First Draft ballot ‐ recirc 2/22/2017 11/16/2016Posting of First Draft for CC Meeting 11/23/2016Final date for CC First Draft Meeting 1/4/2017Posting of First Draft and CC Ballot  1/25/2017Final date for Receipt of CC First Draft ballot 2/15/2017Final date for Receipt of CC First Draft ballot ‐ recirc 2/22/2017Post First Draft Report for Public Comment 3/1/2017 3/1/2017

Public Comment closing date  5/10/2017 5/10/2017

Notice published on Consent Standards (Standards that receive No Comments). Note: Date varies and determined via TC ballot.

_ _

Appeal Closing Date for Consent Standards (15 Days)     (Standards That Received 

No Comments)_ _

Final date for TC Second Draft Meeting 11/8/2017 8/2/2017Posting of Second Draft and TC Ballot  12/20/2017 9/13/2017Final date for Receipt of TC Second Draft Ballot 1/10/2018 10/4/2017Final date for receipt of TC Second Draft ballot ‐ recirc 1/17/2018 10/11/2017Posting of Second Draft for CC Mtg 10/18/2017Final date for CC Second Draft Meeting 11/29/2017Posting of Second Draft for CC Ballot 12/20/2017Final date for Receipt of CC Second Draft ballot 1/10/2018Final date for Receipt of CC Second Draft ballot ‐ recirc 1/17/2018Post Second Draft Report for NITMAM Review 1/24/2018 1/24/2018

Notice of Intent to Make a Motion (NITMAM) Closing Date 2/21/2018 2/21/2018Posting of Certified Amending Motions (CAMs) and Consent Standards 4/4/2018 4/4/2018Appeal Closing Date for Consent Standards (15 Days after posting) 4/19/2018 4/19/2018SC Issuance Date for Consent Standards  (10 Days)  4/29/2018 4/29/2018

Tech Session Association Meeting for Standards with CAMs 6/4‐7/2018 6/4‐7/2018

Appeal Closing Date for Standards with CAMs (20 Days after ATM) 6/27/2018 6/27/2018Council Issuance Date for Standards with CAMs* 8/14/2018 8/14/2018

Comment 

Stage (Second 

Draft)

Tech Session 

Preparation     

(& Issuance)

Appeals and 

Issuance

   2018 ANNUAL REVISION CYCLE 

Public Input 

Stage

(First Draft)

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PART 6 – NFPA 13

PUBLIC COMMENTS

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Public Comment No. 10-NFPA 13-2017 [ Global Input ]

Note to 13R & 13 - regarding sprinklers in closets with ventless dryers. Coordinate with NFPA 13D FR23.See NFPA 13D - FR 23 & NFPA 13R - FR 51.

Additional Proposed Changes

File Name Description Approved

CCN_11.pdf 13_CCN11

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

NOTE: This Public Comment appeared as CC Note No. 11 in the First Draft Report on First Revision No. 891.

Related Item

First Revision No. 891-NFPA 13-2016 [Section No. 8.3.2.5]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Cc On Aut-Aac

Organization: NFPA

Affilliation: CC on Automatic Sprinkler Systems

Street Address:

City:

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Submittal Date: Thu Mar 02 14:29:57 EST 2017

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Correlating Committee Note No. 11-NFPA 13-2016 [ Section No. 8.3.2.5 ]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: David Hague

Organization: National Fire Protection Assoc

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Thu Dec 08 09:53:21 EST 2016

Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

Note to 13R & 13 - regarding sprinklers in closets with ventless dryers. Coordinate with NFPA13D FR23. See NFPA 13D - FR 23 & NFPA 13R - FR51.

First Revision No. 891-NFPA 13-2016 [Section No. 8.3.2.5]

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Mitchell, Brock

Stultz, Douglas Paul

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Baz, Jose R.

Bell, Kerry M.

Bless, Jr., Ralph E.

Franson, Scott T.

Hilton, Luke

Hoffman, Alex

Huggins, Roland J.

Javeri, Sultan M.

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LeBlanc, John A.

Linder, Kenneth W.

Lowrey, David O.

Palenske, Garner A.

Seghi, Adam

Thompson, J. Michael

Valentine, Victoria B.

Abstention

Friedman, Michael J.

absent of information that would enable me to make a decision, I abstain on all ballots on all referenceddocuments

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Public Comment No. 11-NFPA 13-2017 [ Global Input ]

Please indicate specifically which figure is to be added from previous edition (1999 edition?).

Additional Proposed Changes

File Name Description Approved

CCN_6.pdf 13_CCN6

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

NOTE: This Public Comment appeared as CC Note No. 6 in the First Draft Report on First Revision No. 682.

Related Item

First Revision No. 682-NFPA 13-2016 [Section No. 8.6.5.2.1.5]

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Correlating Committee Note No. 6-NFPA 13-2016 [ Section No. 8.6.5.2.1.5 ]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: David Hague

Organization: National Fire Protection Assoc

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Thu Dec 08 09:29:34 EST 2016

Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

Please indicate specifically which figure is to be added from previous edition (1999edition?).

First Revision No. 682-NFPA 13-2016 [Section No. 8.6.5.2.1.5]

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Mitchell, Brock

Stultz, Douglas Paul

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Baz, Jose R.

Bell, Kerry M.

Bless, Jr., Ralph E.

Franson, Scott T.

Hilton, Luke

Hoffman, Alex

Huggins, Roland J.

Javeri, Sultan M.

Ketner, Charles W.

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LeBlanc, John A.

Linder, Kenneth W.

Lowrey, David O.

Palenske, Garner A.

Seghi, Adam

Thompson, J. Michael

Valentine, Victoria B.

Abstention

Friedman, Michael J.

absent of information that would enable me to make a decision, I abstain on all ballots on all referenceddocuments

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Public Comment No. 12-NFPA 13-2017 [ Global Input ]

Appears to be addressed in wrong section. Location has meaning, we should verify that it is underthe correction section.

Additional Proposed Changes

File Name Description Approved

CCN_12.pdf 13_CCN12

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

NOTE: This Public Comment appeared as CC Note No. 12 in the First Draft Report.

Related Item

Correlating Committee Note No. 12-NFPA 13-2016 [Section No. 10.2.7.3.1]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Cc On Aut-Aac

Organization: NFPA

Affilliation: CC on Automatic Sprinkler Systems

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Correlating Committee Note No. 12-NFPA 13-2016 [ Section No. 10.2.7.3.1 ]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: David Hague

Organization: National Fire Protection Assoc

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Thu Dec 08 10:34:42 EST 2016

Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

Appears to be addressed in wrong section. Location has meaning, we should verify that it isunder the correct section.

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0 Negative with Comments

1 Abstention

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Kim, Andrew

Mitchell, Brock

Stultz, Douglas Paul

Affirmative All

Baz, Jose R.

Bell, Kerry M.

Bless, Jr., Ralph E.

Franson, Scott T.

Hilton, Luke

Hoffman, Alex

Huggins, Roland J.

Javeri, Sultan M.

Ketner, Charles W.

LeBlanc, John A.

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Linder, Kenneth W.

Lowrey, David O.

Palenske, Garner A.

Seghi, Adam

Thompson, J. Michael

Valentine, Victoria B.

Abstention

Friedman, Michael J.

absent of information that would enable me to make a decision, I abstain on all ballots on all referenceddocuments

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Public Comment No. 13-NFPA 13-2017 [ Global Input ]

Correlate with changes to NFPA 13R, FR12, differences may be appropriate.

Additional Proposed Changes

File Name Description Approved

CCN_4.pdf 13_CCN4

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

NOTE: This Public Comment appeared as CC Note No. 4 in the First Draft Report on First Revision No. 695.

Related Item

First Revision No. 695-NFPA 13-2016 [New Section after 8.10.4.1]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Cc On Aut-Aac

Organization: NFPA

Affilliation: CC on Automatic Sprinkler Systems

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Thu Mar 02 14:46:01 EST 2017

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Correlating Committee Note No. 4-NFPA 13-2016 [ New Section after 8.10.4.1 ]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: David Hague

Organization: National Fire Protection Assoc

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Thu Dec 08 09:25:42 EST 2016

Committee Statement

Committee Statement: Corrrelate with changes to NFPA 13R, FR12, differences may be appropriate.

First Revision No. 695-NFPA 13-2016 [New Section after 8.10.4.1]

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Kim, Andrew

Mitchell, Brock

Stultz, Douglas Paul

Affirmative All

Baz, Jose R.

Bell, Kerry M.

Bless, Jr., Ralph E.

Franson, Scott T.

Hilton, Luke

Hoffman, Alex

Huggins, Roland J.

Javeri, Sultan M.

Ketner, Charles W.

LeBlanc, John A.

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Linder, Kenneth W.

Lowrey, David O.

Palenske, Garner A.

Seghi, Adam

Thompson, J. Michael

Valentine, Victoria B.

Abstention

Friedman, Michael J.

absent of information that would enable me to make a decision, I abstain on all ballots on all referenceddocuments

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Public Comment No. 14-NFPA 13-2017 [ Global Input ]

Review other types of sidewall sprinklers to determine if modifications need to be made to Sections 8.6,8.7, 8.8 & 8.9 in addition to 8.10.

Additional Proposed Changes

File Name Description Approved

CCN_5.pdf 13_CCN5

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

NOTE: This Public Comment appeared as CC Note No. 5 in the First Draft Report on First Revision No. 697.

Related Item

First Revision No. 697-NFPA 13-2016 [Section No. 8.10.7.2.2]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Cc On Aut-Aac

Organization: NFPA

Affilliation: CC on Automatic Sprinkler Systems

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Thu Mar 02 14:48:04 EST 2017

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Correlating Committee Note No. 5-NFPA 13-2016 [ Section No. 8.10.7.2.2 ]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: David Hague

Organization: National Fire Protection Assoc

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Thu Dec 08 09:27:20 EST 2016

Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

Review other types of sidewall sprinklers to determine if modifications need to be made toSections 8.6, 8.7, 8.8 & 8.9 in addition to 8.10.

First Revision No. 697-NFPA 13-2016 [Section No. 8.10.7.2.2]

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Mitchell, Brock

Stultz, Douglas Paul

Affirmative All

Baz, Jose R.

Bell, Kerry M.

Bless, Jr., Ralph E.

Franson, Scott T.

Hilton, Luke

Hoffman, Alex

Huggins, Roland J.

Javeri, Sultan M.

Ketner, Charles W.

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LeBlanc, John A.

Linder, Kenneth W.

Lowrey, David O.

Palenske, Garner A.

Seghi, Adam

Thompson, J. Michael

Valentine, Victoria B.

Abstention

Friedman, Michael J.

absent of information that would enable me to make a decision, I abstain on all ballots on all referenceddocuments

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Public Comment No. 15-NFPA 13-2017 [ Global Input ]

Please review to determine if appropriate for NFPA 13 or, if inappropriate submit to NFPA 25.

Additional Proposed Changes

File Name Description Approved

CCN_7.pdf 13_CCN7

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

NOTE: This Public Comment appeared as CC Note No. 7 in the First Draft Report on First Revision No. 839.

Related Item

First Revision No. 839-NFPA 13-2016 [Section No. A.7.8.2.5]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Cc On Aut-Aac

Organization: NFPA

Affilliation: CC on Automatic Sprinkler Systems

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Thu Mar 02 14:49:59 EST 2017

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Correlating Committee Note No. 7-NFPA 13-2016 [ Section No. A.7.8.2.5 ]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: David Hague

Organization: National Fire Protection Assoc

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Thu Dec 08 09:31:16 EST 2016

Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

Please review to determine if appropriate for NFPA 13 or, if inappropriate submit to NFPA25.

First Revision No. 839-NFPA 13-2016 [Section No. A.7.8.2.5]

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Kim, Andrew

Mitchell, Brock

Stultz, Douglas Paul

Affirmative All

Baz, Jose R.

Bell, Kerry M.

Bless, Jr., Ralph E.

Franson, Scott T.

Hilton, Luke

Hoffman, Alex

Huggins, Roland J.

Javeri, Sultan M.

Ketner, Charles W.

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LeBlanc, John A.

Linder, Kenneth W.

Lowrey, David O.

Palenske, Garner A.

Seghi, Adam

Thompson, J. Michael

Valentine, Victoria B.

Abstention

Friedman, Michael J.

absent of information that would enable me to make a decision, I abstain on all ballots on all referenceddocuments

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Public Comment No. 185-NFPA 13-2017 [ Global Input ]

Find and replace all instances of "unexpanded" referencing Group A plastics with "nonexpanded"for consistency throughout the reorganized document.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

The use of "nonexpanded" has become preferred over "unexpanded" when referencing Group A plastics that are not "expanded". Previously there has been some consistency within chapters as the usage has been updated piecemeal but not throughout the document. The reorganization is an ideal time to make this term consistent throughout the standard and its annexes.

At least one change, introduced in FR-791, has indicated the need to change "unexpanded" to the preferred "nonexpanded". This change should be implemented globally.

Related Item

FR-791

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Submitter Full Name: Robert Upson

Organization: National Fire Sprinkler Association

Affilliation: NFSA Engineering and Standards Committee

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City:

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Submittal Date: Tue May 09 15:43:48 EDT 2017

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Public Comment No. 3-NFPA 13-2017 [ Global Input ]

PI 513 proposes to modify table 13.2.1 that is proposed to be delted by re-org. The Correlating Committeerequests that the table be reviewed for either revision or deletion.

Additional Proposed Changes

File Name Description Approved

CCN_1.pdf 13_CCN1

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

NOTE: This Public Comment appeared as CC Note No. 1 in the First Draft Report on First Revision No. 860.

Related Item

Public Input No. 513-NFPA 13-2016 [Section No. 13.2.1]

First Revision No. 860-NFPA 13-2016 [Global Input]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Cc On Aut-Aac

Organization: NFPA

Affilliation: CC on Automatic Sprinkler Systems

Street Address:

City:

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Zip:

Submittal Date: Thu Mar 02 13:51:02 EST 2017

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Correlating Committee Note No. 1-NFPA 13-2016 [ Global Input ]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: David Hague

Organization: National Fire Protection Assoc

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Thu Dec 08 09:14:34 EST 2016

Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

PI 513 proposes to modify table 13.2.1 that is proposed to be deleted by re-org. The CorrelatingCommittee requests that the table be reviewed for either revision or deletion.

First Revision No. 860-NFPA 13-2016 [Global Input]

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Kim, Andrew

Mitchell, Brock

Stultz, Douglas Paul

Affirmative All

Baz, Jose R.

Bell, Kerry M.

Bless, Jr., Ralph E.

Franson, Scott T.

Hilton, Luke

Hoffman, Alex

Huggins, Roland J.

Javeri, Sultan M.

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Ketner, Charles W.

LeBlanc, John A.

Linder, Kenneth W.

Lowrey, David O.

Palenske, Garner A.

Seghi, Adam

Thompson, J. Michael

Valentine, Victoria B.

Abstention

Friedman, Michael J.

absent of information that would enable me to make a decision, I abstain on all ballots on all referenceddocuments

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Public Comment No. 31-NFPA 13-2017 [ Global Input ]

"Change 'Biocide' to 'Bacterial Inhibitor' throughout"

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

"Biocide" is a product that must be registered with the EPA and must be used in strict accordance with the label. Furthermore, Biocide applications are required to be applied by a DEC licensed pesticide applicator. Applications must be documented by the applicator and all application records filed with the DEC on an annual basis. "Biocide" should be changed to "Bacterial inhibitor" or "Biostatic inhibitor".

Related Item

PI-35-NFPA 13-2016

PI-44-NFPA 13-2016

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Submitter Full Name: Tim O'Leary

Organization: Huguenot Laboratories

Affilliation: President and CEO

Street Address:

City:

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Submittal Date: Thu Apr 06 15:30:12 EDT 2017

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Public Comment No. 4-NFPA 13-2017 [ Global Input ]

Wording needs to be cleaned up and technical substantiation needs to be provided for any newmaterial. Verify that no new technical material was added. Review annex language to verifyaccuracy.

Additional Proposed Changes

File Name Description Approved

CCN_10.pdf 13_CCN10

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

NOTE: This Public Comment appeared as CC Note No. 10 in the First Draft Report on First Revision No. 911.

Related Item

First Revision No. 911-NFPA 13-2016 [Global Input]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Cc On Aut-Aac

Organization: NFPA

Affilliation: CC on Automatic Sprinkler Systems

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Thu Mar 02 13:57:15 EST 2017

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Correlating Committee Note No. 10-NFPA 13-2016 [ Global Input ]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: David Hague

Organization: National Fire Protection Assoc

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Thu Dec 08 09:36:59 EST 2016

Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

Wording needs to be cleaned up and technical substantiation needs to be provided for any newmaterial. Verify that no new technical material was added. Review annex language to verifyaccuracy.

First Revision No. 911-NFPA 13-2016 [Global Input]

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0 Affirmative with Comments

0 Negative with Comments

1 Abstention

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Kim, Andrew

Mitchell, Brock

Stultz, Douglas Paul

Affirmative All

Baz, Jose R.

Bell, Kerry M.

Bless, Jr., Ralph E.

Franson, Scott T.

Hilton, Luke

Hoffman, Alex

Huggins, Roland J.

Javeri, Sultan M.

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Ketner, Charles W.

LeBlanc, John A.

Linder, Kenneth W.

Lowrey, David O.

Palenske, Garner A.

Seghi, Adam

Thompson, J. Michael

Valentine, Victoria B.

Abstention

Friedman, Michael J.

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Public Comment No. 5-NFPA 13-2017 [ Global Input ]

PI 426 & 450 proposes to add text that is proposed to be deleted by re-org. Review Section for eitherrevision or deletion.

Additional Proposed Changes

File Name Description Approved

CCN_2.pdf 13_CCN2

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

NOTE: This Public Comment appeared as CC Note No. 2 in the First Draft Report on First Revision No. 862, and is also related to Public Input Nos. 426 and 450.

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Public Input No. 426-NFPA 13-2016 [Section No. 16.1.2.4]

Public Input No. 450-NFPA 13-2016 [Section No. 17.1.2.9]

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Submitter Full Name: David Hague

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Submittal Date: Thu Dec 08 09:18:28 EST 2016

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CommitteeStatement:

PI 426 & 450 proposes to add text that is proposed to be deleted by re-org. Review Sectionfor either revision or deletion.

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Mitchell, Brock

Stultz, Douglas Paul

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Baz, Jose R.

Bell, Kerry M.

Bless, Jr., Ralph E.

Franson, Scott T.

Hilton, Luke

Hoffman, Alex

Huggins, Roland J.

Javeri, Sultan M.

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LeBlanc, John A.

Linder, Kenneth W.

Lowrey, David O.

Palenske, Garner A.

Seghi, Adam

Thompson, J. Michael

Valentine, Victoria B.

Abstention

Friedman, Michael J.

absent of information that would enable me to make a decision, I abstain on all ballots on all referenceddocuments

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Public Comment No. 6-NFPA 13-2017 [ Global Input ]

The discharge committee should request the Task Group to review artwork and eliminate redundancy.

Additional Proposed Changes

File Name Description Approved

CCN_8.pdf 13_CCN8

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

NOTE: This Public Comment appeared as CC Note No. 8 in the First Draft Report on First Revision No. 865.

Related Item

First Revision No. 865-NFPA 13-2016 [Global Input]

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Correlating Committee Note No. 8-NFPA 13-2016 [ Global Input ]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: David Hague

Organization: National Fire Protection Assoc

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City:

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Submittal Date: Thu Dec 08 09:32:45 EST 2016

Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

The discharge committee should request the Task Group to review artwork and eliminateredundancy.

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Kim, Andrew

Mitchell, Brock

Stultz, Douglas Paul

Affirmative All

Baz, Jose R.

Bell, Kerry M.

Bless, Jr., Ralph E.

Franson, Scott T.

Hilton, Luke

Hoffman, Alex

Javeri, Sultan M.

Ketner, Charles W.

LeBlanc, John A.

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Lowrey, David O.

Palenske, Garner A.

Seghi, Adam

Thompson, J. Michael

Valentine, Victoria B.

Affirmative with Comment

Huggins, Roland J.

The Committee Statement is too broad. I think this was intended to direct a review of the Figures with in-racksprinklers shown outside the boundary of the rack.

Abstention

Friedman, Michael J.

absent of information that would enable me to make a decision, I abstain on all ballots on all referenceddocuments

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Public Comment No. 7-NFPA 13-2017 [ Global Input ]

Definitions need to be reviewed and should be modified to remove any requirements in accordancewith the manual of style. Underlined text should be reviewed to determine if new language needs atechnical substantiation.

Additional Proposed Changes

File Name Description Approved

CCN_9.pdf 13_CCN9

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

NOTE: This Public Comment appeared as CC Note No. 9 in the First Draft Report on First Revision No. 866.

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First Revision No. 866-NFPA 13-2016 [Global Input]

Submitter Information Verification

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Correlating Committee Note No. 9-NFPA 13-2016 [ Global Input ]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: David Hague

Organization: National Fire Protection Assoc

Street Address:

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Zip:

Submittal Date: Thu Dec 08 09:34:35 EST 2016

Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

Definitions need to be reviewed and should be modified to remove any requirements inaccordance with the manual of style. Underlined text should be reviewed to determine if newlanguage needs a technical substantiation.

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Mitchell, Brock

Stultz, Douglas Paul

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Baz, Jose R.

Bell, Kerry M.

Bless, Jr., Ralph E.

Franson, Scott T.

Hilton, Luke

Hoffman, Alex

Huggins, Roland J.

Javeri, Sultan M.

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Ketner, Charles W.

LeBlanc, John A.

Linder, Kenneth W.

Lowrey, David O.

Palenske, Garner A.

Seghi, Adam

Thompson, J. Michael

Valentine, Victoria B.

Abstention

Friedman, Michael J.

absent of information that would enable me to make a decision, I abstain on all ballots on all referenceddocuments

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Public Comment No. 8-NFPA 13-2017 [ Global Input ]

Please review metric units for consistency throughout the document.

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Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

NOTE: This Public Comment appeared as CC Note No. 13 in the First Draft Report.

Related Item

Correlating Committee Note No. 13-NFPA 13-2016 [Section No. 1.6]

Submitter Information Verification

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Organization: NFPA

Affilliation: CC on Automatic Sprinkler Systems

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Correlating Committee Note No. 13-NFPA 13-2016 [ Section No. 1.6 ]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: David Hague

Organization: National Fire Protection Assoc

Street Address:

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State:

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Submittal Date: Thu Dec 08 10:53:52 EST 2016

Committee Statement

Committee Statement: Please review metric units for consistency throughout the document.

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Not Returned

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Mitchell, Brock

Stultz, Douglas Paul

Affirmative All

Baz, Jose R.

Bell, Kerry M.

Bless, Jr., Ralph E.

Franson, Scott T.

Hilton, Luke

Hoffman, Alex

Huggins, Roland J.

Javeri, Sultan M.

Ketner, Charles W.

LeBlanc, John A.

Linder, Kenneth W.

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Lowrey, David O.

Palenske, Garner A.

Seghi, Adam

Thompson, J. Michael

Valentine, Victoria B.

Abstention

Friedman, Michael J.

absent of information that would enable me to make a decision, I abstain on all ballots on all referenceddocuments

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Public Comment No. 9-NFPA 13-2017 [ Global Input ]

Marine definitions appear in both chapters 3 and 25. Review definitions and keep in Chapter 3 only.

Additional Proposed Changes

File Name Description Approved

CCN_3.pdf 13_CCN3

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

NOTE: This Public Comment appeared as CC Note No. 3 in the First Draft Report on First Revision No. 825.

Related Item

First Revision No. 825-NFPA 13-2016 [Section No. 3.10.2]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Cc On Aut-Aac

Organization: NFPA

Affilliation: CC on Automatic Sprinkler Systems

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Submittal Date: Thu Mar 02 14:25:15 EST 2017

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Correlating Committee Note No. 3-NFPA 13-2016 [ Section No. 3.10.2 ]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: David Hague

Organization: National Fire Protection Assoc

Street Address:

City:

State:

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Submittal Date: Thu Dec 08 09:23:17 EST 2016

Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

Marine definitions appear in both chapters 3 and 25. Review definitions and keep inChapter 3 only.

First Revision No. 825-NFPA 13-2016 [Section No. 3.10.2]

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Kim, Andrew

Mitchell, Brock

Stultz, Douglas Paul

Affirmative All

Baz, Jose R.

Bell, Kerry M.

Bless, Jr., Ralph E.

Franson, Scott T.

Hilton, Luke

Hoffman, Alex

Huggins, Roland J.

Javeri, Sultan M.

Ketner, Charles W.

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LeBlanc, John A.

Linder, Kenneth W.

Lowrey, David O.

Palenske, Garner A.

Seghi, Adam

Thompson, J. Michael

Valentine, Victoria B.

Abstention

Friedman, Michael J.

absent of information that would enable me to make a decision, I abstain on all ballots on all referenceddocuments

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Public Comment No. 128-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 3.3.9 ]

3.3.9 Automated Inspection and Testing.

The use of procedures or equipment for the performance of inspections and testing of components testsat a distance from the system or component being inspected or tested through the use of electronicdevices or equipment installed for the purpose.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

This comment is in support of the definition for Automated Inspection and Testing but seeks consistency between the related NFPA Standards. This language was approved by the NFPA 20 committee and should be correlated with NFPA 13, NFPA 13R and NFPA 14.

Related Item

FR-719

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Robert Upson

Organization: National Fire Sprinkler Association

Affilliation: NFSA Engineering and Standards Committee

Street Address:

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Submittal Date: Tue May 09 08:25:17 EDT 2017

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Public Comment No. 299-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 3.3.34 ]

3.3.34 Cloud Ceiling.

Any ceiling system installed in the same plane with horizontal openings to the structure above on all two ormore sides. This does not include sloped ceilings as defined in 3.3.27.3.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

The original research used four open sides because that created a more challenging scenario. Rejecting this allowance for fewer openings whereby less heat can get past the lower ceiling needs better justification than simply blindly applying the test protocol without considering the impact of a change. Sound fire protection engineering supports this change. I considered repeating the other PI that had no reference to sides but a single opening likely is not viewed as a cloud ceiling but just a small opening in the ceiling which is already addressed under concealed spaces.

Related Item

PI-479

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Roland Huggins

Organization: American Fire Sprinkler Association

Street Address:

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Submittal Date: Wed May 10 14:33:35 EDT 2017

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Public Comment No. 256-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 3.3.40 ]

3.3.40 Compartment.

A space completely enclosed by walls and a ceiling. Each wall in the compartment is permitted to haveopenings to an adjoining space if the openings have a minimum lintel depth of 8 in. (200 mm) from theceiling and the total width of the openings in each wall does not exceed 8 ft (2.4 m) every 40 linear feet . Asingle opening of 36 in. (900 mm) or less in width without a lintel is permitted where there are no otheropenings to adjoining spaces every 40 linear feet .

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

This was noted to be a CI during the first draft meetings and should not have been accepted as a FR.

Related Item

FR 812

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Louis Guerrazzi

Organization: National Fire Sprinkler Association

Affilliation: NFSA E&S Committee

Street Address:

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Submittal Date: Wed May 10 11:39:40 EDT 2017

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Public Comment No. 301-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 3.3.95 ]

3.3.95 High-Piled Storage.

Solid-piled, palletized, rack storage, bin box, and shelf storage of Class I to IV commodities in excess of12 ft (3.7 m) in height and solid -piled, palletized, rack storage, bin box, and shelf storage of Group Aplastic commodities in excess of 5 ft (1 . 5 m) in height.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

During the First Draft meeting, PI-437 was resoved with the committee statement the the matter was already addressed in the reformat. However, in the First Draft Report, the definitions for high piled storage and for low-piled storage have not been revised. Therefore, the definitions are still misleading:

High-Piled Storage - As per Section 3.9.1.15, a high-challenge fire hazard is typical of that produced by fires in combustible high-piled storage. However, the challenge provided by Group A plastic commodities is considerably higher than that from Class I to IV commodities stored to the same height. For example, as per Table 15.2.6(a), for a ceiling height of 20.1 ft, storage to 12 ft of Group A cartoned, nonexpanded commodities in a stable pile requires a design criteria of 0.60 gpm/ft² with a design area of 2500 ft², whereas as per Table 13.2.1, Class I to IV commodities stored under those same conditions only require an OH2 design of 0.20 gpm/ft² over 1500 ft².

Low-Piled Storage – According to First Revision No. 311 from the previous cycle, the definition for low-piled storage was introduced as an editorial matter, to better reflect that Chapter 13 is not just for miscellaneous storage. However, since the definition does not differentiate between commodity types, there is an implication that Chapter 13 should apply to general storage of Group. A to 12 ft, when in fact, the scope of Chapter 13 is for just 5 ft maximum storage, as directed by 15.2.1 and 17.2.1.1.

Revised definitions are therefore offered to resolve the discrepancies of the current definitions.

Related Item

PI-437

PI-180

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Larry Keeping

Organization: PLC Fire Safety Solutions

Street Address:

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Submittal Date: Wed May 10 14:35:06 EDT 2017

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Public Comment No. 53-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 3.3.115 ]

3.3.115* Limited-Combustible (Material).

Refers to a building construction material not complying with the definition of noncombustible material that,in the form in which it is used, has a potential heat value not exceeding 3500 Btu/lb (8100 kJ/kg), wheretested in accordance with NFPA 259, and includes either of the following: (1) materials having a structural

base of noncombustible material, with a surfacing not exceeding a thickness of 1 ⁄ 8 in. (3.2 mm) that has aflame spread index not greater than 50; or (2) materials, in the form and thickness used, having neither aflame spread index greater than 25 nor evidence of continued progressive combustion, and of suchcomposition that surfaces that would be exposed by cutting through the material on any plane would haveneither a flame spread index greater than 25 nor evidence of continued progressive combustion, whentested in accordance with ASTM E84, Standard Test Method of Surface Burning Characteristics of BuildingMaterials, or ANSI/UL 723, Standard Test Method of Surface Burning Characteristics of BuildingMaterials .

(see 4.11)

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

The definition of limited combustible material presented here is different from what is shown in all major NFPA documents, including NFPA 1, NFPA 101 and NFPA 5000. Moreover, these documents (and many others) have moved the definition of limited combustible and of non-combustible to a mandatory portion of the document, within the body of the document.

Related Public Comments for This Document

Related Comment Relationship

Public Comment No. 54-NFPA 13-2017 [New Section after 4.10]

Public Comment No. 54-NFPA 13-2017 [New Section after 4.10]

Public Comment No. 55-NFPA 13-2017 [Section No. 3.3.130]

Related Item

Public Input 13

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Marcelo Hirschler

Organization: GBH International

Street Address:

City:

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Submittal Date: Thu Apr 27 15:09:58 EDT 2017

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Public Comment No. 305-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 3.3.119 ]

3.3.119* Low-Piled Storage.

Solid-piled, palletized, rack storage, bin box, and shelf storage of Class I to IV commodities up to 12 ft (3.7m) in height and solid- piled , palletized, rack storage, bin box, and shelf storage of Group A plasticcommodities up to 5 ft (1 . 5 m) in height .

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

During the First Draft meeting, PI-437 was resoved with the committee statement the the matter was already addressed in the reformat. However, in the First Draft Report, the definitions for high piled storage and for low-piled storage have not been revised. Therefore, the definitions are still misleading:

High-Piled Storage - As per Section 3.9.1.15, a high-challenge fire hazard is typical of that produced by fires in combustible high-piled storage. However, the challenge provided by Group A plastic commodities is considerably higher than that from Class I to IV commodities stored to the same height. For example, as per Table 15.2.6(a), for a ceiling height of 20.1 ft, storage to 12 ft of Group A cartoned, nonexpanded commodities in a stable pile requires a design criteria of 0.60 gpm/ft² with a design area of 2500 ft², whereas as per Table 13.2.1, Class I to IV commodities stored under those same conditions only require an OH2 design of 0.20 gpm/ft² over 1500 ft².

Low-Piled Storage – According to First Revision No. 311 from the previous cycle, the definition for low-piled storage was introduced as an editorial matter, to better reflect that Chapter 13 is not just for miscellaneous storage. However, since the definition does not differentiate between commodity types, there is an implication that Chapter 13 should apply to general storage of Group. A to 12 ft, when in fact, the scope of Chapter 13 is for just 5 ft maximum storage, as directed by 15.2.1 and 17.2.1.1.

Revised definitions are therefore offered to resolve the discrepancies of the current definitions.

Related Item

PI-437

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Submitter Full Name: Larry Keeping

Organization: PLC Fire Safety Solutions

Street Address:

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State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Wed May 10 14:55:19 EDT 2017

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Public Comment No. 55-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 3.3.130 ]

3.3.130 Noncombustible Material.

A material that, in the form in which it is used and under the conditions anticipated, will not ignite, burn,support combustion, or release flammable vapors, when subjected to fire or heat; materials that arereported as passing ASTM E136, Standard Test Method for Behavior of Materials in a Vertical TubeFurnace at 750°C, shall be considered noncombustible materials.

(see 4.11)

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

The definition of noncombustible material presented here is different from what is shown in all major NFPA documents, including NFPA 1, NFPA 101 and NFPA 5000. Moreover, these documents (and many others) have moved the definition of limited combustible and of non-combustible to a mandatory portion of the document, within the body of the document.

Related Public Comments for This Document

Related Comment Relationship

Public Comment No. 53-NFPA 13-2017 [Section No. 3.3.115]

Public Comment No. 54-NFPA 13-2017 [New Section after 4.10]

Related Item

public input 14

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Marcelo Hirschler

Organization: GBH International

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Public Comment No. 108-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 3.3.206.4 ]

3.3.206.4 * Sprinkler System.

A system that consists of an integrated network of piping designed in accordance with fire protectionengineering standards that includes a water supply source, a water control valve, a waterflow alarm, and adrain. The portion of the sprinkler system above ground is a network of specifically sized or hydraulicallydesigned piping installed in a building, structure, or area, generally overhead, and to which sprinklers areattached in a systematic pattern. The system is commonly activated by heat from a fire and dischargeswater over the fire area.

3.3.206.4.1 Antifreeze Sprinkler System.

A wet pipe system using automatic sprinklers that contains a liquid solution to prevent freezing of thesystem, intended to discharge the solution upon sprinkler operation, followed immediately by water from awater supply.

3.3.206.4.2 Circulating Closed-Loop Sprinkler System.

A wet pipe sprinkler system having non–fire protection connections to automatic sprinkler systems in aclosed-loop piping arrangement for the purpose of utilizing sprinkler piping to conduct water for heating orcooling, where water is not removed or used from the system but only circulated through the piping system.

3.3.206.4.3 Combined Dry Pipe–Reaction Sprinkler System.

A sprinkler system employing automatic sprinklers attached to a piping system containing air underpressure with a supplemental detection system installed in the same areas as the sprinklers. Operation ofthe detection system actuates tripping devices that open dry pipe valves simultaneously and without loss ofair pressure in the system. The detection system also serves as an automatic fire alarm system.

3.3.206.4.4 Deluge Sprinkler System.

A sprinkler system employing open sprinklers or nozzles that are attached to a piping system that isconnected to a water supply through a valve that is opened by the operation of a detection system installedin the same areas as the sprinklers or the nozzles. When this valve opens, water flows into the pipingsystem and discharges from all sprinklers or nozzles attached thereto.

3.3.206.4.5 Dry Pipe Sprinkler System.

A sprinkler system employing automatic sprinklers that are attached to a piping system containing air ornitrogen under pressure, the release of which (as from the opening of a sprinkler) permits the waterpressure to open a valve known as a dry pipe valve, and the water then flows into the piping system andout the opened sprinklers.

3.3.206.4.6 * Gridded Sprinkler System.

A sprinkler system in which parallel cross mains are connected by multiple branch lines, causing anoperating sprinkler to receive water from both ends of its branch line while other branch lines help transferwater between cross mains.

3.3.206.4.7 * Looped Sprinkler System.

A sprinkler system in which multiple cross mains are tied together so as to provide more than one path forwater to flow to an operating sprinkler and branch lines are not tied together.

3.3.206.4.8 Multicycle System.

A type of sprinkler system capable of repeated on–off flow cycles in response to heat.

3.3.206.4.9 Pipe Schedule System.

A sprinkler system in which the pipe sizing is selected from a schedule that is determined by theoccupancy classification and in which a given number of sprinklers are allowed to be supplied from specificsizes of pipe.

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3.3.206.4.10 * Preaction Sprinkler System.

A sprinkler system employing automatic sprinklers that are attached to a piping system that contains airthat might or might not be under pressure, with a supplemental detection system installed in the sameareas as the sprinklers.

3.3.206.4.11 Wet Pipe Sprinkler System.

A sprinkler system employing automatic sprinklers attached to a piping system containing water andconnected to a water supply so that water discharges immediately from sprinklers opened by heat from afire.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

This comment is to move the definitions for a sprinkler system and the various system types to Section 3.3.207. As it is currently entered in the First draft Report, the definitions for a sprinkler system and for the various types of sprinkler system are sandwiched in between the sections for the types of sprinkler by installation orientation and the sprinkler system types. This location is obscure. It is not intuitive to look for the definition of a wet pipe system immediately before the definition of a CMDA sprinkler. The systems (types) should have their section.

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Public Comment No. 63-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 3.3.206.4.1 ]

3.3.206.4.1 Antifreeze Sprinkler System.

A wet pipe system using automatic sprinklers that contains a liquid solution to prevent freezing of thesystem, intended to discharge the solution upon sprinkler operation, followed immediately by water from awater supply .

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Phrases starting with INTENDED are explanatory and do not belong in a definition. Guidance like “followed immediately by water” not only is explanatory but also imply a requirement which does not belong in a definition.Where is the value or need in restricting an antifreeze system to being followed by water when it can be acceptable regardless of the amount of time required for said water to be discharged? What impact on system performance is provided by this requirement of water being discharged in the distant future after initial activation? The committee substantiation for rejection was not a valid reason. Clear text when it is inappropriate and/or in the wrong location is not a valid reason although I do agree with the committee statement that the original text “does NOT contribute to improve the Code”.

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Submitter Full Name: Roland Huggins

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Public Comment No. 105-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 3.3.206.4.2 ]

3.3.206.4.2 Circulating Closed-Loop Sprinkler System.

A wet pipe sprinkler system having non–fire protection connections to automatic sprinkler systems in aclosed-loop piping arrangement for the purpose of utilizing sprinkler piping to conduct water for heating orcooling, where water is not removed or used from the system but only circulated through the piping system.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Circulating Closed loops have been removed from NFPA 13. This language no longer applies to new installations.

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Public Comment No. 129-NFPA 13-2017 [ New Section after 3.3.206.4.5 ]

3.3.206.4.5.1 Differential Dry Pipe Valve

The valve is held in the closed position by the system gas pressure exposed to the larger surface area onthe air/nitrogen side of the clapper where it is at least 5 times that of the surface area on the water supplyside.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

A PI was submitted to address low differential dry pipe valves, defining it to be where the air/nitrogen to water ratio is greater than 1 in 6. Debate was had during the first draft meeting on to the accuracy of this. Per discussion at the NFSA’s Engineering and Standards committee, it was noted that the issue is between differential dry pipe valves and mechanical valves, where water columns adversely affect differential type dry pipe valves of any ratio. This is not an issue with mechanical type dry pipe valves. Definitions are needed to clarify the distinction between the two types.

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Submitter Full Name: Robert Upson

Organization: National Fire Sprinkler Association

Affilliation: NFSA Engineering and Standards Committee

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Public Comment No. 130-NFPA 13-2017 [ New Section after 3.3.206.4.5 ]

3.3.206.4.5.2 Mechanical Dry Pipe Valve

Uses a series of mechanical devices such as levers, springs, diaphragms, and latches to hold the valve inthe closed position with air/nitrogen pressure and without using the clapper surface areas to provide adifferential between air/nitrogen and water pressures.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

A PI was submitted to address low differential dry pipe valves, defining it to be where the air/nitrogen to water ratio is greater than 1 in 6. Debate was had during the first draft meeting on to the accuracy of this. Per discussion at the NFSA’s Engineering and Standards committee, it was noted that the issue is between differential dry pipe valves and mechanical valves, where water columns adversely affect differential type dry pipe valves of any ratio. This is not an issue with mechanical type dry pipe valves. Definitions are needed to clarify the distinction between the two types.

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Submitter Full Name: Robert Upson

Organization: National Fire Sprinkler Association

Affilliation: NFSA Engineering and Standards Committee

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Public Comment No. 201-NFPA 13-2017 [ New Section after 3.3.206.4.5 ]

Differential Dry Pipe Valve

A valve that is closed by a larger clapper than the waterway, creating a differential or ratio of size.

Mechanically Latched Dry Pipe Valve

A dry valve that is mechanically latched closed.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

This is to better clarify PI-267 and CI-727.

Related Public Comments for This Document

Related Comment Relationship

Public Comment No. 202-NFPA 13-2017 [Section No. 8.2.5.4.2]

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Submitter Full Name: Daniel Wake

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Public Comment No. 109-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 3.3.206.5 ]

3.3.206.5 Needs a Title. Sprinkler Types. The following sprinklers are defined according to design andperformance characterstics.

3.3.206.5.1 * Control Mode Density/Area (CMDA) Sprinkler.

A type of spray sprinkler intended to provide fire control in storage applications using the designdensity/area criteria described in this standard.

3.3.206.5.2 * Control Mode Specific Application (CMSA) Sprinkler.

A type of spray sprinkler that is capable of producing characteristic large water droplets and that is listed forits capability to provide fire control of specific high-challenge fire hazards.

3.3.206.5.3 Corrosion-Resistant Sprinkler.

A sprinkler fabricated with corrosion-resistant material, or with special coatings or platings, to be used in anatmosphere that would normally corrode sprinklers.

3.3.206.5.4 * Dry Sprinkler.

A sprinkler secured in an extension nipple that has a seal at the inlet end to prevent water from entering thenipple until the sprinkler operates.

3.3.206.5.5 * Early Suppression Fast-Response (ESFR) Sprinkler.

A type of fast-response sprinkler that has a thermal element with an RTI of 50 (meters-seconds)1⁄2 or less

and is listed for its capability to provide fire suppression of specific high-challenge fire hazards.

3.3.206.5.6 Extended Coverage Sprinkler.

A type of spray sprinkler with maximum coverage areas as specified in Sections 11.2 and 11.3 of thisstandard.

3.3.206.5.7 Institutional Sprinkler.

A sprinkler specially designed for resistance to load-bearing purposes and with components not readilyconverted for use as weapons.

3.3.206.5.8 Intermediate Level Sprinkler/Rack Storage Sprinkler.

A sprinkler equipped with integral shields to protect its operating elements from the discharge of sprinklersinstalled at higher elevations.

3.3.206.5.9 Nozzles.

A device for use in applications requiring special water discharge patterns, directional spray, or otherunusual discharge characteristics.

3.3.206.5.10 Old-Style/Conventional Sprinkler.

A sprinkler that directs from 40 percent to 60 percent of the total water initially in a downward direction andthat is designed to be installed with the deflector either upright or pendent.

3.3.206.5.11 Open Sprinkler.

A sprinkler that does not have actuators or heat-responsive elements.

3.3.206.5.12 Ornamental/Decorative Sprinkler.

A sprinkler that has been painted or plated by the manufacturer.

3.3.206.5.13 Pilot Line Detector.

A standard spray sprinkler or thermostatic fixed-temperature release device used as a detector topneumatically or hydraulically release the main valve, controlling the flow of water into a fire protectionsystem.

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3.3.206.5.14 * Quick-Response (QR) Sprinkler.

A type of spray sprinkler that has a thermal element with an RTI of 50 (meter-seconds)1⁄2 or less and is

listed as a quick-response sprinkler for its intended use.

3.3.206.5.15 * Quick-Response Early Suppression (QRES) Sprinkler.

A type of quick-response sprinkler that has a thermal element with an RTI of 50 (meter-seconds)1⁄2 or less

and is listed for its capability to provide fire suppression of specific fire hazards.

3.3.206.5.16 Quick-Response Extended Coverage Sprinkler.

A type of quick-response sprinkler that has a thermal element with an RTI of 50 (meter-seconds)1⁄2 or less

and complies with the extended protection areas defined in Chapter 8.

3.3.206.5.17 Residential Sprinkler.

A type of fast-response sprinkler having a thermal element with an RTI of 50 (meters-seconds)1⁄2 or less

that has been specifically investigated for its ability to enhance survivability in the room of fire origin, andthat is listed for use in the protection of dwelling units.

3.3.206.5.18 Special Sprinkler.

A sprinkler that has been tested and listed as prescribed in 15.2.

3.3.206.5.19 Spray Sprinkler.

A type of sprinkler listed for its capability to provide fire control for a wide range of fire hazards.

3.3.206.5.20 Standard Spray Sprinkler.

A spray sprinkler with maximum coverage areas as specified in Sections 10.2 and 10.3 of this standard.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

In the First Draft Report, Section 3.3.206.5 is entitled "Needs a Title". The title and the corresponding text offered here is borrowed right from the 2016 edition of the standard for the same definitions.

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Public Comment No. 77-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 3.3.206.5.4 ]

3.3.206.5.4 * Dry Sprinkler.

A sprinkler secured in an extension nipple extension (barrel) that has a seal at the inlet end to preventwater from entering the nipple the barrel until the sprinkler operates.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

During the Technical Committee's First Draft Meeting is was decided to delete the word "nipple" when referring to the extension (barrel) of a dry sprinkler, to remove the suggestion that the barrel of a dry sprinkler is a piece of pipe. The Committee Comment for items such as PI-275 and PI-280 refer to the action taken for PI-269 (ie. this definition), but there the First draft report does not indicate any changes to the text. For items such as PI-271 and PI-272 it was decided to retain the word "barrel", so this word was edited into this proposed revision to the dry sprinkler definition. This word can still be used, despite the fact that some dry sprinklers have flexible extensions.

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Public Comment No. 107-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 3.3.207 ]

3.3.207 Sprinkler System.

See 3.3.206.4 . Attached file:

Additional Proposed Changes

File Name Description Approved

Sprinkler_Systems.docx Sprinkler Systems

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

As it is currently entered in the First draft Report, the definitions for a sprinkler system and for the various types of sprinkler system are sandwiched in between the sections for the types of sprinkler by installation orientation and the sprinkler system types. This location is obscure. It is not intuitive to look for the definition of a wet pipe system immediately before the definition of a CMDA sprinkler. The systems (types) should have their section.

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 3.3.207*   Sprinkler System.   A system that consists of an integrated network of piping designed in accordance with fire protection engineering standards that includes a water supply source, a water control valve, a waterflow alarm, and a drain. The portion of the sprinkler system above ground is a network of specifically sized or hydraulically designed piping installed in a building, structure, or area, generally overhead, and to which sprinklers are attached in a systematic pattern. The system is commonly activated by heat from a fire and discharges water over the fire area.  3.3.207.1   Antifreeze Sprinkler System.    A wet pipe system using automatic sprinklers that contains a liquid solution to prevent freezing of the system, intended to discharge the solution upon sprinkler operation, followed immediately by water from a water supply.  3.3.207.2   Combined Dry Pipe–Preaction Sprinkler System.   A sprinkler system employing automatic sprinklers attached to a piping system containing air under pressure with a supplemental detection system installed in the same areas as the sprinklers. Operation of the detection system actuates tripping devices that open dry pipe valves simultaneously and without loss of air pressure in the system. The detection system also serves as an automatic fire alarm system.  3.3.207.3   Deluge Sprinkler System.   A sprinkler system employing open sprinklers or nozzles that are attached to a piping system that is connected to a water supply through a valve that is opened by the operation of a detection system installed in the same areas as the sprinklers or the nozzles. When this valve opens, water flows into the piping system and discharges from all sprinklers or nozzles attached thereto.  3.3.207.4   Dry Pipe Sprinkler System.   A sprinkler system employing automatic sprinklers that are attached to a piping system containing air or nitrogen under pressure, the release of which (as from the opening of a sprinkler) permits the water pressure to open a valve known as a dry pipe valve, and the water then flows into the piping system and out the opened sprinklers.  3.3.207.5*   Gridded Sprinkler System.   A sprinkler system in which parallel cross mains are connected by multiple branch lines, causing an operating sprinkler to receive water from both ends of its branch line while other branch lines help transfer water between cross mains.  3.3.207.6*   Looped Sprinkler System.   A sprinkler system in which multiple cross mains are tied together so as to provide more than one path for water to flow to an operating sprinkler and branch lines are not tied together.  3.3.207.7   Multicycle System.   A type of sprinkler system capable of repeated on–off flow cycles in response to heat.  3.3.207.8   Pipe Schedule System.   A sprinkler system in which the pipe sizing is selected from a schedule that is determined by the occupancy classification and in which a given number of sprinklers are allowed to be supplied from specific sizes of pipe.  3.3.207.9*   Preaction Sprinkler System.   A sprinkler system employing automatic sprinklers that are attached to a piping system that contains air that might or might not be under pressure, with a supplemental detection system installed in the same areas as the sprinklers.  3.3.207.9   Wet Pipe Sprinkler System.   A sprinkler system employing automatic sprinklers attached to a piping system containing water and connected to a water supply so that water discharges immediately from sprinklers opened by heat from a fire. 

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Public Comment No. 327-NFPA 13-2017 [ New Section after 4.1.2.2 ]

4.1.3* Temporary Protection During Construction, Alteration or Demolition.

Temporary fire sprinkler protection during construction, alteration or demolition shall comply with NFPA241.

A.4.1.3 During construction, alternation and demolition, there are many hazardous conditions, such ascutting, welding, grinding and combustible or hazardous product storage that can be made safer byinstalling a temporary fire sprinkler system. Given that such protection will be supplemental to any otherprotection that would be required, NFPA 241 permits temporary fire sprinkler protection when approved bythe AHJ.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

In discussing rejection of PI 609, the committee suggested that the issue of temporary sprinklers during construction was better suited for inclusion in NFPA 241. That suggestion was pursued and resulted in an addition of a new section on temporary sprinkler protection in the next edition of NFPA 241. It is appropriate for NFPA 13 to include a reference to NFPA 241 since sprinkler contractors won't ordinarily be familiar with that standard.

For reference, the NFPA 241 text is as follows:

7.9 Temporary Protection During Construction, Alteration or Demolition.During construction, alteration or demolition, the use of temporary fire sprinkler protection approved by the AHJ shall be permitted as supplemental protection.

A.7.9 During construction, alternation and demolition, there are many hazardous conditions, such as cutting, welding, grinding and combustible or hazardous product storage that can be made safer by installing a temporary fire sprinkler system. Given that such protection will besupplemental to any other protection that would be required, there is no harm in allowing this additional safety feature on a temporary basis if the design basis and installation is considered acceptable by the AHJ.

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Public Comment No. 21-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 4.2 ]

4.2* Owner’s Certificate.

The owner(s) of a building or structure where the fire sprinkler system is going to be installed or theirauthorized agent shall provide the sprinkler system installer with the following information prior to the layoutand detailing of the fire sprinkler system [see Figure A.4.6(b)]:

(1) Intended use of the building including the materials within the building and the maximum height of anystorage

(2) A preliminary plan of the building or structure along with the design concepts necessary to perform thelayout and detail for the fire sprinkler system

(3)

4.2.1 Certificate Provided

The Owner's Certificate shall be considered as a component of the fire sprinkler plans. The Owner'sCertificate shall be provided with all plans submitted to the AHJ for approval that are related to a firesprinkler system.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

The purpose of the owner's certificate is to define the intended use of the building a fire sprinkler system is being installed in, so the engineer can develop a system that meets the needs of the owner. The problem is, this certificate never accompanies the set of plans that are provided to the AHJ for approval. How can we review a set of plans to ensure that the system is being installed correctly if we don't know what it will be used for? This document should be considered part of the plans and always accompany them when they are submitted to the AHJ for approval.

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PI

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Submitter Full Name: Ryan Wyse

Organization: Hebron Fire Department

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State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Fri Mar 24 15:25:06 EDT 2017

* Any special knowledge of the water supply, including known environmental conditions that might beresponsible for corrosion, including microbiologically influenced corrosion (MIC)

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Public Comment No. 310-NFPA 13-2017 [ Sections 4.3.1.5.1, 4.3.1.5.2 ]

Sections 4.3.1.5.1, 4.3.1.5.2

4.3.1.5.1

For storage of Class I through Class IV 12 ft (3.7 m) or less in height that does not meet the definition ofMiscellaneous Storage that is on solid shelf racks, in-rack sprinklers shall be provided in accordance with16 25 .6. 1.6 , and ceiling sprinkler protection shall be provided in accordance with Chapter13 13 accordance with this chapter, for the relative occupancy hazard criteria .

4.3.1.5.2

For storage of Group A Plastics 5 ft (1.5 m) or less in height that does not meet the definition ofMiscellaneous Storage that is on solid shelf racks, in-rack sprinklers shall be provided in accordance with17 25 .6. 1.5 , and ceiling sprinkler protection shall be provided in accordance with Chapter 13 with thischapter, for the relative occupancy hazard criteria .

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

In the First Draft Report the references are from the 2016 edition of the NFPA 13. These matters need to be revised to match the new chapter structure for the standard.

Related Item

FR-911

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Larry Keeping

Organization: PLC Fire Safety Solutions

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

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Public Comment No. 275-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 4.3.4 ]

4.3.4* Ordinary Hazard (Group 2).

The following shall be protected with ordinary hazard group 2 occupancy criteria in this standard:

(1) Spaces with moderate to high quantity and combustibility of contents

(2) Stockpiles of contents with moderate to high combustibility that do not exceed 12 ft (3.7 m)

(3) Miscellaneous or low-piled storage of solid-piled, palletized, bin box, shelf, rack, and back-to-back shelfstorage of Class II commodities more than 10 ft (3.0 m) and not exceeding 12 ft (3.7 m)

(4) Miscellaneous or low-piled storage of solid-piled, palletized, bin box, shelf, rack, and back-to-back shelfstorage of Class III commodities not exceeding 12 ft (3.7 m)

(5) Miscellaneous or low-piled storage of solid-piled, palletized, bin box, shelf, rack, and back-to-back shelfstorage of Class IV commodities not exceeding 10 ft (3.0 m)

(6) Miscellaneous or low-piled storage of solid-piled, palletized, bin box, and shelf storage of Class IVcommodities more than 10 ft (3.0 m) and not exceeding 12 ft (3.7 m) and a maximum ceiling height of32 ft (9.8 m)

(7) Miscellaneous or low-piled rack storage of Class IV commodities more than 10 ft (3.0 m) and notexceeding 12 ft (3.7 m) and a maximum ceiling height of 32 ft (9.8 m) with the use of 1 level of in-racksprinklers

(8) Miscellaneous or low-piled storage of solid-piled, palletized, bin box, shelf, rack, and back-to-backshelf storage of Group A commodities not exceeding 5 ft (1.5 m)

(9) Miscellaneous storage of rack storage of Group A commodities more than 10 ft (3.0 m) and notexceeding 12 ft (3.7 m) and a maximum ceiling height of 32 ft (9.8 m) with the use of 1 level of in-racksprinklers

(10) Miscellaneous storage of rack storage of exposed expanded Group A commodities more than 5 ft (1.5m) and not exceeding 10 ft (3.0 m) and a maximum ceiling height of 20 ft (5.1 m) with the use of 1 levelof in-rack sprinklers

(11) Miscellaneous tire storage stored on floor or in rack either on tread or on side not exceeding 5 ft (1.5m)

(12) Miscellaneous tire storage stored on a fixed single-row rack either on tread or on side more than 5 ft(1.5 m) and not exceeding 12 ft (3.7 m) and a maximum ceiling height of 32 ft (9.8 m) with the use of 1level of in-rack sprinklers

(13) Miscellaneous store of medium weight and heavyweight rolled paper stored on end not exceeding 10 ft(3.0 m) and a maximum ceiling height of 30 ft (9.1 m)

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

At the First Draft Meeting, for PI-513, the Technical Committee to agreed provide another option for the protection of Class IV commodities stored on racks to a maximum height of 12 ft. Since an OH2 design with 1 level of in-rack sprinklers is adequate for Miscellaneous Storage of Group A plastic commodities and rubber tires on racks to 12 ft, itwas agreed that it should be equally acceptable for the storage of Class IV products. However, in the First Draft Report, this changes seems to have been missed during the rewritingeditting effort, so the addition should be inserted at this stage.

Related Item

PI-513

FR-860

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Submitter Full Name: Larry Keeping

Organization: PLC Fire Safety Solutions

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

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Public Comment No. 122-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 4.5.2 ]

4.5.2

The floor area occupied by mezzanines shall comply with 4.5.2.1 or 4.5.2.2 or 4.5.2.3

4.5.2.1 In a building with only one system the floor area occupied by mezzanines shall not be included inthe area limits of 4.5.1 .

4.5.2.2 In a building with more than one system if a mezzanine located is entirely within a single systemboundary the floor area occupied by mezzanines shall not be included in the area limits of 4.5.1.

4.5.2.3 In a building with more than one system and any portion of the mezzanine floor area which islocated outside of the system boundary shall be additive to the system total area from which it is suppliedand the total system area shall meet the limits of 4.5.1

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Without the acceptance of this proposal in a large multi-system building it is possible to have a single riser supplying a system of up to 52,000 sqft and also supply a mezzanine of unlimited size. It is not the intent to allow a single system riser to control an unlimited area.

This was submitted as a public proposal and resolved stating that this is addressed in the annex. This issue is not addressed in the annex. For example a single riser in a 1,000,000 sqft building may supply a 52,000 sqft roof system and also a 300,000 sqft mezzanine. I don't believe that it is the intend of the section to allow 352,000 sqft to be supplied by a single riser.

Related Item

Public Input No. 176-NFPA 13-2016

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: John Deutsch

Organization: Shambaugh & Son

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

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Public Comment No. 230-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 4.5.4 ]

4.5.4

The area protected by a single in-rack system includes all of the floor area occupied by the racks,including aisles, regardless of the number of levels of in-rack sprinklers.

4.5.4.1

Multiple buildings attached by canopies, covered breezeways, common roofs, or a common wall(s) shall bepermitted to be supplied by a single fire sprinkler riser.

4.5.4.2

The

area protected by a single in-rack system shall include all of the floor area occupied by the racks, includingaisles, regardless of the number of levels of in-rack sprinklers.

4.5.4.2.1

Multiple buildings attached by canopies, covered breezeways, common roofs, or a common wall(s) shall bepermitted to be supplied by a single fire sprinkler riser.

4.5.4.3

The maximum system size shall comply with 4.5.1.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

In the First Draft Report, the text of 4.5.4 and 4.5.4.1 is duplicated in 4.5.4.2 and 4.5.4.2.1. The redundant text should be deleted.

Related Item

FR-911

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Larry Keeping

Organization: PLC Fire Safety Solutions

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Tue May 09 23:23:17 EDT 2017

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Public Comment No. 67-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 4.6 ]

Move this entire section ( 4.6 ) to a new Chapter 27 and renumber proposed Chapter 27 and all remainingchapters.

Chapter 27 Plans and Calculations

27.1 * Working Plans.

4 27 .6 1 .1*

Working plans shall be submitted for approval to the authority having jurisdiction before any equipment isinstalled or remodeled.

4 27 .6 1 .1.1

Working plan submittals shall include the following:

(1) Working plans of the system(s), per 4.6.3

(2) Hydraulic calculations where systems are required to be calculated

(3) Data sheets for the system components where required by the AHJ

(4)

4 27 .6 1 .1.2

Submittals shall be permitted to be in electronic format when approved by the authority having jurisdiction.

4 27 .6 1 .1.3

A copy of the approved plans shall be given to the owner or owner’s representative.

4 27 .6 1 .2

Deviation from approved plans shall require permission of the authority having jurisdiction.

* Signed owner’s certificate

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Working plans shall be drawn to an indicated scale, on sheets of uniform size, with a plan of each floor, andshall show those items from the following list that pertain to the design of the system:

(1) Name of owner and occupant.

(2) Location, including street address.

(3) Point of compass.

(4) Full height cross section or schematic diagram, including structural member information if required forclarity and including ceiling construction and method of protection for nonmetallic piping.

(5) Ceiling/roof heights and slopes not shown in the full height cross section.

(6) Location of partitions.

(7) Location of fire walls.

(8) Occupancy class of each area or room.

(9) Location and size of concealed spaces, closets, attics, and bathrooms.

(10) Any small enclosures in which no sprinklers are to be installed.

(11) Size of city main in street and whether dead end or circulating; if dead end, direction and distance tonearest circulating main; and city main test results and system elevation relative to test hydrant.

(12) Other sources of water supply, with pressure or elevation.

(13) Make, type, model, and nominal K-factor of sprinklers, including sprinkler identification number.

(14) Temperature rating and location of high-temperature sprinklers.

(15) Total area protected by each system on each floor.

(16) Number of sprinklers on each riser per floor.

(17) Total number of sprinklers on each dry pipe system, preaction system, combined dry pipe–preactionsystem, or deluge system.

(18) Approximate capacity in gallons of each dry pipe system.

(19) Pipe type and schedule of wall thickness.

(20) Nominal pipe size and cutting lengths of pipe (or center-to-center dimensions). Where typical branchlines prevail, it shall be necessary to size only one typical line.

(21) Location and size of riser nipples.

(22) Type of fittings and joints and location of all welds and bends. The contractor shall specify on drawingany sections to be shop welded and the type of fittings or formations to be used.

(23) Type and locations of hangers, sleeves, braces, and methods of securing sprinklers when applicable.

(24) All control valves, check valves, drain pipes, and test connections.

(25) Size, location, and valve and piping arrangement for means to forward flow test at system demand.

(26) Make, type, model, and size of alarm or dry pipe valve.

(27) Make, type, model, and size of preaction or deluge valve.

(28) Kind and location of alarm bells.

(29) Size and location of standpipe risers, hose outlets, hand hose, monitor nozzles, and related equipment.

(30) Private fire service main sizes, lengths, locations, weights, materials, point of connection to city main;the sizes, types and locations of valves, valve indicators, regulators, meters, and valve pits; and thedepth that the top of the pipe is laid below grade.

(31) Piping provisions for flushing.

(32) Where the equipment is to be installed as an addition to an existing system, enough of the existingsystem indicated on the plans to make all conditions clear.

(33) For hydraulically designed systems, the information on the hydraulic data nameplate.

(34) A graphic representation of the scale used on all plans.

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(35) Name, address, and phone number(s) of contractor.

(36) Hydraulic reference points shown on the plan that correspond with comparable reference points on thehydraulic calculation sheets.

(37) The minimum rate of water application (density or flow or discharge pressure), the design area of waterapplication, in-rack sprinkler demand, and the water required for hose streams both inside and outside.

(38) The total quantity of water and the pressure required noted at a common reference point for eachsystem.

(39) Relative elevations of sprinklers, junction points, and supply or reference points.

(40) If room design method is used, all unprotected wall openings throughout the floor protected.

(41) Calculation of loads for sizing and details of sway bracing.

(42) Zones of influence used in calculations for seismic bracing indicated on plans.

(43) The setting for pressure-reducing valves.

(44) Information about backflow preventers (manufacturer, size, type).

(45) Information about listed antifreeze solution used (type and amount).

(46) Size and location of hydrants showing size and number of outlets and if outlets are to be equipped withindependent gate valves. Whether hose houses and equipment are to be provided, and by whom, shallbe indicated. Static and residual hydrants that were used in flow tests shall be shown.

(47) Utility plans and/or plumbing plans necessary to show connection from water supply to fire sprinklersystem.

(48) Size, location, and piping arrangement of fire department connections.

(49) Ceiling/roof heights and slopes not shown in the full height cross section.

(50) Edition year of NFPA 13 to which the sprinkler system is designed.

4 27 .6 1 .4

A signed copy of the owner’s certificate and the working plan submittal shall include the manufacturer’sinstallation instructions for any specially listed equipment, including descriptions, applications, andlimitations for any sprinklers, devices, piping, or fittings.

4 27 .6 1 .5* Working Plans for Automatic Sprinkler Systems with Non–Fire Protection Connections.

4 27 .6 1 .5.1

Special symbols shall be used and explained for auxiliary piping, pumps, heat exchangers, valves,strainers, and the like, clearly distinguishing these devices and piping runs from those of the sprinklersystem.

4 27 .6 1 .5.2

Model number, type, and manufacturer’s name shall be identified for each piece of auxiliary equipment.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

The details regarding working plans are far too specific to be in a "General Requirements" chapter. They require the knowledge of many pieces of information that have not been determined by the user when they get to Chapter 4. This forces the user to circle back to Chapter 4 after reading other chapters in the book.

The rules for plans should not be separated from the rules for hydraulic calculation. Those rules were proposed for a different chapter, and I will be proposing to bring them together in the new Chapter 27. The rules for information that needs to be provided on working plans cannot be separated from hydraulic calculations. Just look at how much information in the proposed section 4.6 needs to come from the hydraulic calculations. They should be together in a chapter after the design approaches have been determined by the user.

Related Public Comments for This Document

Related Comment Relationship

Public Comment No. 68-NFPA 13-2017 [Sections 19.6, 19.7, 19.8, 19.9]

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Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Kenneth Isman

Organization: University of Maryland

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Fri May 05 15:33:29 EDT 2017

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Public Comment No. 131-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 4.6.3 ]

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Working plans shall be drawn to an indicated scale, on sheets of uniform size, with a plan of each floor, andshall show those items from the following list that pertain to the design of the system:

(1) Name of owner and occupant.

(2) Location, including street address.

(3) Point of compass.

(4) Full height cross section or schematic diagram, including structural member information if required forclarity and including ceiling construction and method of protection for nonmetallic piping.

(5) Ceiling/roof heights and slopes not shown in the full height cross section.

(6) Location of partitions.

(7) Location of fire walls.

(8) Occupancy class of each area or room.

(9) Location and size of concealed spaces, closets, attics, and bathrooms.

(10) Any small enclosures in which no sprinklers are to be installed.

(11) Size of city main in street and whether dead end or circulating; if dead end, direction and distance tonearest circulating main; and city main test results and system elevation relative to test hydrant.

(12) Other sources of water supply, with pressure or elevation.

(13) Make, type, model, and nominal K-factor of sprinklers, including sprinkler identification number.

(14) Temperature rating and location of high-temperature sprinklers.

(15) Total area protected by each system on each floor.

(16) Number of sprinklers on each riser per floor.

(17) Total number of sprinklers on each dry pipe system, preaction system, combined dry pipe–preactionsystem, or deluge system.

(18) Approximate capacity in gallons of each dry pipe system.

(19) Pipe type and schedule of wall thickness.

(20) Nominal pipe size and cutting lengths of pipe (or center-to-center dimensions). Where typical branchlines prevail, it shall be necessary to size only one typical line.

(21) Location and size of riser nipples.

(22) Type of fittings and joints and location of all welds and bends. The contractor shall specify on drawingany sections to be shop welded and the type of fittings or formations to be used.

(23) Type and locations of hangers, sleeves, braces, and methods of securing sprinklers when applicable.

(24) All control valves, check valves, drain pipes, and test connections.

(25) Size, location, and valve and piping arrangement for means to forward flow test at system demand,where a backflow device is installed on the system .

(26) Make, type, model, and size of alarm or dry pipe valve.

(27) Make, type, model, and size of preaction or deluge valve.

(28) Kind and location of alarm bells.

(29) Size and location of standpipe risers, hose outlets, hand hose, monitor nozzles, and related equipment.

(30) Private fire service main sizes, lengths, locations, weights, materials, point of connection to city main;the sizes, types and locations of valves, valve indicators, regulators, meters, and valve pits; and thedepth that the top of the pipe is laid below grade.

(31) Piping provisions for flushing.

(32) Where the equipment is to be installed as an addition to an existing system, enough of the existingsystem indicated on the plans to make all conditions clear.

(33) For hydraulically designed systems, the information on the hydraulic data nameplate.

(34) A graphic representation of the scale used on all plans.

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(35) Name, address, and phone number(s) of contractor.

(36) Hydraulic reference points shown on the plan that correspond with comparable reference points on thehydraulic calculation sheets.

(37) The minimum rate of water application (density or flow or discharge pressure), the design area of waterapplication, in-rack sprinkler demand, and the water required for hose streams both inside and outside.

(38) The total quantity of water and the pressure required noted at a common reference point for eachsystem.

(39) Relative elevations of sprinklers, junction points, and supply or reference points.

(40) If room design method is used, all unprotected wall openings throughout the floor protected.

(41) Calculation of loads for sizing and details of sway bracing.

(42) Zones of influence used in calculations for seismic bracing indicated on plans.

(43) The setting for pressure-reducing valves.

(44) Information about backflow preventers (manufacturer, size, type).

(45) Information about listed antifreeze solution used (type and amount).

(46) Size and location of hydrants showing size and number of outlets and if outlets are to be equipped withindependent gate valves. Whether hose houses and equipment are to be provided, and by whom, shallbe indicated. Static and residual hydrants that were used in flow tests shall be shown.

(47) Utility plans and/or plumbing plans necessary to show connection from water supply to fire sprinklersystem.

(48) Size, location, and piping arrangement of fire department connections.

(49) Ceiling/roof heights and slopes not shown in the full height cross section.

(50) Edition year of NFPA 13 to which the sprinkler system is designed.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Per Larry Keeping’s comment on the ballot, the new Sentence 25 implies that every system requires a forward flow test connection, whereas it is only called for when there is a backflow preventer installed. The new Sentence 47 is not only redundant to Sentence 30, but by referring to utility and plumbing plans it suggests that the underground water service is not part of the sprinkler system.

Related Item

FR-761

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Robert Upson

Organization: National Fire Sprinkler Association

Affilliation: NFSA Engineering and Standards Committee

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Tue May 09 09:10:21 EDT 2017

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Public Comment No. 320-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 4.6.3 ]

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Working plans shall be drawn to an indicated scale, on sheets of uniform size, with a plan of each floor, andshall show those items from the following list that pertain to the design of the system:

(1) Name of owner and occupant.

(2) Location, including street address.

(3) Point of compass.

(4) Full height cross section or schematic diagram, including structural member information if required forclarity and including ceiling construction and method of protection for nonmetallic piping.

(5) Ceiling/roof heights and slopes not shown in the full height cross section.

(6) Location of partitions.

(7) Location of fire walls.

(8) Occupancy class of each area or room.

(9) Location and size of concealed spaces, closets, attics, and bathrooms.

(10) Any small enclosures in which no sprinklers are to be installed.

(11) Size of city main in street and whether dead end or circulating; if dead end, direction and distance tonearest circulating main; and city main test results and system elevation relative to test hydrant.

(12) Other sources of water supply, with pressure or elevation.

(13) Make, type, model, and nominal K-factor of sprinklers, including sprinkler identification number.

(14) Temperature rating and location of high-temperature sprinklers.

(15) Total area protected by each system on each floor.

(16) Number of sprinklers on each riser per floor.

(17) Total number of sprinklers on each dry pipe system, preaction system, combined dry pipe–preactionsystem, or deluge system.

(18) Approximate capacity in gallons of each dry pipe system.

(19) Pipe type and schedule of wall thickness.

(20) Nominal pipe size and cutting lengths of pipe (or center-to-center dimensions). Where typical branchlines prevail, it shall be necessary to size only one typical line.

(21) Location and size of riser nipples.

(22) Type of fittings and joints and location of all welds and bends. The contractor shall specify on drawingany sections to be shop welded and the type of fittings or formations to be used.

(23) Type and locations of hangers, sleeves, braces, and methods of securing sprinklers when applicable.

(24) All control valves, check valves, drain pipes, and test connections.

(25) Size Make , location type , and valve and piping arrangement for model, and size of backflow prenterand means to forward flow test at system demand.

(26) Make, type, model, and size of alarm or dry pipe valve.

(27) Make, type, model, and size of preaction or deluge valve.

(28) Kind and location of alarm bells.

(29) Size and location of standpipe risers, hose outlets, hand hose, monitor nozzles, and related equipment.

(30) Private fire service main sizes, lengths, locations, weights, materials, point of connection to city main;the sizes, types and locations of valves, valve indicators, regulators, meters, and valve pits; and thedepth that the top of the pipe is laid below grade.

(31) Piping provisions for flushing.

(32) Where the equipment is to be installed as an addition to an existing system, enough of the existingsystem indicated on the plans to make all conditions clear.

(33) For hydraulically designed systems, the information on the hydraulic data nameplate.

(34) A graphic representation of the scale used on all plans.

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(35) Name, address, and phone number(s) of contractor.

(36) Hydraulic reference points shown on the plan that correspond with comparable reference points on thehydraulic calculation sheets.

(37) The minimum rate of water application (density or flow or discharge pressure), the design area of waterapplication, in-rack sprinkler demand, and the water required for hose streams both inside and outside.

(38) The total quantity of water and the pressure required noted at a common reference point for eachsystem.

(39) Relative elevations of sprinklers, junction points, and supply or reference points.

(40) If room design method is used, all unprotected wall openings throughout the floor protected.

(41) Calculation of loads for sizing and details of sway bracing.

(42) Zones of influence used in calculations for seismic bracing indicated on plans.

(43) The setting for pressure-reducing valves.

(44) Information about

backflow preventers (manufacturer, size, type).

(45) Information about listed antifreeze solution used (type and amount).

(46) Size and location of hydrants showing size and number of outlets and if outlets are to be equipped withindependent gate valves. Whether hose houses and equipment are to be provided, and by whom, shallbe indicated. Static and residual hydrants that were used in flow tests shall be shown.

(47) Utility plans and/or plumbing plans necessary to show connection from water supply to fire sprinklersystem.

(48) Size, location, and piping arrangement of fire department connections.

(49) Ceiling/roof heights and slopes not shown in the full height cross section.

(50) Edition year of NFPA 13 to which the sprinkler system is designed.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Some of the revisions made to this section are redundant and according to my notes they were not accepted by the TC at the 1st Draft Meeting:

- The new Item 25 was edited to call for the details of the backflow preventer and provide better clarity. As written in the First Draft Report, it implies that every system requires a forward flow test connection, whereas it is only called for when there is a backflow preventer installed. - Item 44 should be deleted, because with the new Item 25 it became redundant.- Item 47 should be deleted, because the information is already called for in Item 30. Also, by referring to utility and plumbing plans, it suggests that the underground water service is not part of the sprinkler system.- Item 49 should be deleted, because the information is already called for in the new Item 5.

Related Item

FR-761

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Larry Keeping

Organization: PLC Fire Safety Solutions

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Wed May 10 16:41:16 EDT 2017

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Public Comment No. 54-NFPA 13-2017 [ New Section after 4.10 ]

4.11 Noncombustible materials and limited combustible materials

4.11.1* Noncombustible material [NFPA 5000, 7.1.4.1]

4.11.1.1.A material that complies with any of the following shall be considered a noncombustible material:

(1)* The material, in the form it is used, and under the conditions anticipated, will not ignite, burn, supportcombustion, or release flammable vapors when subjected to fire or heat.

(2) The material is reported as passing ASTM E136, Standard Test Method for Behavior of Materials in aVertical Tube Furnace at 740 degrees C.

(3) The material is reported as complying with the pass/fail criteria of ASTM E136 when tested inaccordance with the test method and procedure of ASTM E2652, Standard Test Method for Behavior ofMaterials in a Tube Furnace with a Cone-Shaped Airflow Stabilizer at 750 degrees C.

4.11.1.2 Where the term limited combustible is used in this standard, it shall also include the termnoncombustible.

4.11.2* Limited combustible material [NFPA 5000, 7.1.4.2]

4.11.2.1 A material shall be considered a limited combustible material where both of the following conditionsof 4.11.2.1 (1) and 4.11.2.1 (2), and the conditions of either 4.11.2.1.2 or 4.11.2.3 are met:

(1) The material does not comply with the requirements of a noncombustible material in accordance with5.1.1.

(2) The material, in the form in which it is used, exhibits a potential heat value not exceeding 3500 BTU/lb(8141 kJ/kg), when tested in accordance with NFPA 259, Standard Test Method for Potential Heat ofBuilding Materials.

4.11.2.2 The material shall have a structural base of noncombustible material with a surfacing not exceedinga thickness of 1/8 in. (3.2 mm) where the surfacing exhibits a flame spread index not greater than 50 whentested in accordance with ASTM E84, Standard Test Method for Surface Burning Characteristics of BuildingMaterials, or of ANSI/UL 723, Standard for Test for Surface Burning Characteristics of Building Materials.

4.11.2.3 The material shall be composed of materials that in the form and thickness used, neither exhibit aflame spread index greater than 25 nor evidence of continued progressive combustion when tested inaccordance with ASTM E84 or ANSI/UL 723 and are of such composition that all surfaces that would beexposed by cutting through the material on any plane would neither exhibit a flame spread index greaterthan 25 nor exhibit evidence of continued progressive combustion when tested in accordance with ASTME84 or ANSI/UL 723.

4.11.2.4 Where the term limited combustible is used in this standard, it shall also include the termnoncombustible.

A4.11.1 The provisions of 4.11.1 do not require inherently noncombustible materials to be tested in order tobe classified as noncombustible materials. [NFPA 5000]

A4.11.1.1 (1) Examples of such materials include steel, concrete, masonry and glass. [NFPA 5000]

A4.11.2 Material subject to increase in combustibility or flame spread index beyond the limits hereinestablished through the effects of age, moisture, or other atmospheric condition is considered combustible(See NFPA 259 and NFPA 220). [NFPA 5000 A.7.1.4.2]

(This requires adding ASTM E2652 into section on referenced standards)

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

This is a place to include the requirements for limited combustible materials and noncombustible materials in a way consistent with most NFPA documents. This is a companion to deleting the definitions from Chapter 3, where they are both inconsistent with those in other documents and placed in a section that is not intended to be enforced.

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Related Comment Relationship

Public Comment No. 53-NFPA 13-2017 [Section No. 3.3.115]

Public Comment No. 53-NFPA 13-2017 [Section No. 3.3.115]

Public Comment No. 55-NFPA 13-2017 [Section No. 3.3.130]

Public Comment No. 56-NFPA 13-2017 [Section No. 2.3.4]

Related Item

Public input 12

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Marcelo Hirschler

Organization: GBH International

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Thu Apr 27 15:21:09 EDT 2017

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Public Comment No. 35-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 5.1.5.2 ]

5.1.5.2

Water supplies and environmental conditions shall be evaluated for conditions that contribute to unusualcorrosive properties. Where conditions are found that contribute to unusual corrosive properties, theowner(s) shall notify the sprinkler system installer and a plan shall be developed to treat the system usingone of the following methods:

(1) Install a water pipe that is corrosion resistant

(2) Treat all water that enters the system using an approved and listed corrosion inhibitor.

(3) Implement an approved plan for monitoring the interior conditions of the pipe at established intervalsand locations

(4) Install corrosion monitoring station and monitor at established intervals

(5) Fill dry-pipe or preaction systems with nitrogen as a supervisory gas to mitigate against corrosion.

(6) When using a generator, use an approved nitrogen generator.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

The TC removed this section from the code, which removes all recommendations to treat the water with a corrosion inhibitor. NFPA 13 section 7.8.1 'Additives to the water supply intended for control of Microbiological or other corrosion shall be listed for use within fire sprinkler systems". UL and Huguenot Laboratories are in contract to produce a listed and approved inhibitor within the calendar year of 2017. Copies of the developed testing standard are being provided as verification of compliance that a listed inhibitor is forthcoming. Please return this section to the code now that a listing standard exists. A copy of the testing standard and contract between UL and Huguenot Laboratories are being provided as proof of compliance. Thank you.

Related Item

FR-919

PI-44-NFPA 13-2016

PI-35-NFPA 13-2016

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Tim O'Leary

Organization: Huguenot Laboratories

Affilliation: President and CEO

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Fri Apr 07 08:53:10 EDT 2017

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Public Comment No. 20-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 5.1.8 ]

5.1.8* Connection from Waterworks System.

5.1.8.1

The requirements of the public health authority having jurisdiction shall be determined and followed.

5.1.8.2

Where equipment is installed to guard against possible contamination of the public water system, suchequipment and devices shall be listed for fire protection service.

5.1.8.3

When a hydrant is installed between the public waterworks system and a fire pump, the hydrant shall beuniquely identified in a manner approved by the AHJ.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

I have seen many private fire hydrants installed between a fire pump and the public water supply connection. The purpose of this hydrant is to be used as a water source by the fire department to supply the FDC in the event that a fire pump fails to operate. Should the fire pump be operating as normal, utilizing this hydrant will steal water from the fire pump, which will reduce the amount of water being supplied to the sprinkler system and other private fire hydrants. Additionally, since this hydrant is before the fire pump, the hydrant will only have municipal pressure and not which would have been received from the fire pump. We have 5 industrial buildings within our district.

Related Item

PI

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Ryan Wyse

Organization: Hebron Fire Department

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Fri Mar 24 15:05:14 EDT 2017

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Public Comment No. 133-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 5.2.2.2 ]

5.2.2.2

The volume and pressure of a public water supply shall be determined from waterflow test data or otherapproved methods.

5.2.2.2.1

Where a waterflow test is conducted, the volume and pressure available for use for a fire protectionsystem shall be determined in accordance with 5.2.2.2.1.1 . If knowledge of the water supply isunavailable, the volume and pressure shall be determined in accordance with 5.2.2.2.1.2 .

5.2.2.2.1.1 *

Water supply adjustments shall be based on knowledge of the water supply and engineering judgment,taking into account daily and seasonal fluctuations, not extreme conditions.

5.2.2.2.1.2 *

If knowledge of the water supply is unavailable, the following formula shall be used to determine volumeand pressure:

[5.2.2.2.1.2]

where:

P = pressure available from the water supply to use for a fire protection system that will be calculatedfor a given flow ( Q )

P R = residual pressure measured during the waterflow test while the flow Q R was discharging from

the water supply

P S = static pressure measured during the waterflow test

Q = flow that will be used to calculate the available pressure from the water supply

Q R = flow discharging from the water supply when PR was measured

P L = expected low static pressure at the location of the test results accounting for daily and seasonalfluctuations (not extreme conditions) obtained from the water utility

5.2.2.2.1.3

Where the water authority does not provide a value for P L , the value of P L shall be calculated from the

following formula:

[5.2.2.2.1.3]

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

The adjustment to a water flow test is unnecessary as many safety factors are already included throughout the standard for installation and design of sprinkler systems. NFPA 13 has not previously required a set safety margin specifically to water flow tests and this has not been an issue. Local jurisdictions already include their own safety factor, just as many contractors include their own safety factors within their own set of calculations above the standard.

Related Public Comments for This Document

Related Comment Relationship

Public Comment No. 134-NFPA 13-2017 [Section No. A.5.2.2.2.1.1]

Public Comment No. 135-NFPA 13-2017 [Section No. A.5.2.2.2.1.2]

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FR-751

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Robert Upson

Organization: National Fire Sprinkler Association

Affilliation: NFSA Engineering and Standards Committee

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Tue May 09 09:16:29 EDT 2017

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Public Comment No. 302-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 5.2.2.2.1 ]

5.2.2.2.1

Where a waterflow test is conducted, the volume and pressure available for use for a fire protectionsystem shall be determined in accordance with 5.2.2.2.1.1 . If knowledge of the water supply isunavailable, the volume and pressure shall be determined in accordance with 5.2.2.2.1.2 .

5.2.2.2.1.1*

Water supply adjustments shall be based on knowledge of the water supply and engineering judgment,taking into account daily and seasonal fluctuations, not extreme conditions.

5.2.2.2.1.2*

If knowledge of the water supply is unavailable, the following formula shall be used to determine volumeand pressure:

[5.2.2.2.1.2]

where:

P = pressure available from the water supply to use for a fire protection system that will be calculated fora given flow (Q)

PR = residual pressure measured during the waterflow test while the flow QR was discharging from the

water supply

PS = static pressure measured during the waterflow test

Q = flow that will be used to calculate the available pressure from the water supply

QR = flow discharging from the water supply when PR was measured

PL = expected low static pressure at the location of the test results accounting for daily and seasonalfluctuations (not extreme conditions) obtained from the water utility

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5.2.2.2.1.3

Where the water authority does not provide a value for PL, the value of PL shall be calculated from the

following formula:

[5.2.2.2.1.3]

5.2.2.2.1

Where a waterflow test is conducted, the volume and pressure available for use for a fire protection system sha

5.2.2.2.1.1*

Water supply adjustments shall be based on knowledge of the water supply and engineering judgment, taking in

5.2.2.2.1.2*

If knowledge of the water supply is unavailable, the following formula shall be used to determine volume and pre

http://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraView/Content/13-2016.ditamap/2/E13-1139.jpg [5.2.2.2.1.2]

where:

P = pressure available from the water supply to use for a fire protection system that will be calculated for a

P R = residual pressure measured during the waterflow test while the flow Q R was discharging from the wa

P S = static pressure measured during the waterflow test

Q = flow that will be used to calculate the available pressure from the water supply

Q R = flow discharging from the water supply when PR was measured

P L = expected low static pressure at the location of the test results accounting for daily and seasonal fluctu

5.2.2.2.1.3

Where the water authority does not provide a value for P L , the value of P L shall be calculated from the follow

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

APPA disagrees with adding more words to this subsection. Subsection 5.2.2.2.1.1 requires adjustments to flow test data that was guidance in the annex. In subsection 5.2.2.2.1.2 it requires a factor of safety of an arbitrary 10% if a flow test is not taken and the water authority does not provide a factor of safety. However, this section does not explicitly include private waterworks systems. We agree with Technical Committee voting member John August Denhardt in his approval comments – “While I have mixed feelings on this issue, I do feel that this issue does need guidance in the body of the standard. I'm still not sure this approach is the correct one. However, where is the committee statement? We developed a committee statement to attempt to draw out comments from the users of the standard.” We are asking the technical committee to review this section for clarity.

Related Item

P-1

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Billie Zidek

Organization: APPA

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Wed May 10 14:38:06 EDT 2017

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Public Comment No. 324-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 5.2.2.2.1 ]

5.2.2.2.1

Where a waterflow test is conducted, the volume and pressure available for use for a fire protectionsystem shall be determined in accordance with 5.2.2.2.1.1 . If knowledge of the water supply isunavailable, the volume and pressure shall be determined in accordance with 5.2.2.2.1.2 .

5.2.2.2.1.1 *

Water supply adjustments shall be based on knowledge of the water supply and engineering judgment,taking into account daily and seasonal fluctuations, not extreme conditions.

5.2.2.2.1.2 *

If knowledge of the water supply is unavailable, the following formula shall be used to determine volumeand pressure:

[5.2.2.2.1.

2]

where:

P = pressure available from the water supply to use for a fire protection system that will be calculatedfor a given flow ( Q )

P R = residual pressure measured during the waterflow test while the flow Q R was discharging from

the water supply

P S = static pressure measured during the waterflow test

Q = flow that will be used to calculate the available pressure from the water supply

Q R = flow discharging from the water supply when PR was measured

P L = expected low static pressure at the location of the test results accounting for daily and seasonalfluctuations (not extreme conditions) obtained from the water utility

[5.2.2.2.1.3

5.2.2.2.1. 3

Where the water authority does not provide a value for P L , the value of P L shall be calculated from the

following formula:

]

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

The responsibility for adjustments to the water supply should not be a mandate for the contractor, rather it should be the responsibility of the water purveyor. This is clearly identified in the IBC in section 903.3.5, and to establish this as a requirement for the contractor places them at odds with the IBC by complying with NFPA 13.

Related Item

PI-160

Submitter Information Verification

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Submitter Full Name: Kenneth Wagoner

Organization: Parsley Consulting

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Wed May 10 17:28:41 EDT 2017

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Public Comment No. 215-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 19.2 ]

19.2 General Design Approaches.

The requirements of Section 19.2 shall apply to all sprinkler systems unless modified by a specific sectionof Chapter 11 19 or Chapter 12 20 .

19.2.1

A building or portion thereof shall be permitted to be protected in accordance with any applicable designapproach at the discretion of the designer.

19.2.2* Adjacent Hazards or Design Methods.

For buildings with two or more adjacent hazards or design methods, the following shall apply:

(1) Where areas are not physically separated by a draft curtain, barrier, or partition capable of delayingheat from a fire in one area from fusing sprinklers in the adjacent area, the required sprinkler protectionfor the more demanding design basis shall extend 15 ft (4.6 m) beyond its perimeter.

(2) The requirements of 19.2.2(1) shall not apply where the areas are separated by a draft curtain, orbarrier located above an aisle, where the aisle has a minimum 2 ft (600 mm) horizontal separation fromthe adjacent hazard on each side, or a partition that is capable of delaying heat from a fire in one areafrom fusing sprinklers in the adjacent area.

(3) The requirements of 19.2.2(1) shall not apply to the extension of more demanding criteria from anupper ceiling level to beneath a lower ceiling level where the difference in height between the ceilinglevels is at least 2 ft (600 mm), located above an aisle, where the aisle has a minimum 2 ft (600 mm)horizontal separation from the adjacent hazard on each side.

19.2.3

For hydraulically calculated systems, the total system water supply requirements for each design basisshall be determined in accordance with the procedures of Section 19.6 unless modified by a section ofChapter 11 19 or Chapter 12 20 .

19.2.4 Water Demand.

19.2.4.1*

The water demand requirements shall be determined from the following:

(1) Occupancy hazard fire control approach and special design approaches of Chapter 11

(2) Storage design approaches of Chapter 12 20 through Chapter 20 25

(3) Special occupancy approaches of Chapter 22 26

19.2.4.2*

The minimum water demand requirements for a sprinkler system shall be determined by adding the hosestream allowance to the water demand for sprinklers.

19.2.5 Water Supplies.

19.2.5.1

The minimum water supply shall be available for the minimum duration specified in Chapter 11.

19.2.5.2*

Tanks shall be sized to supply the equipment that they serve.

19.2.5.3*

Pumps shall be sized to supply the equipment that they serve.

19.2.6 Hose Allowance.

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19.2.6.1 Systems with Multiple Hazard Classifications.

For systems with multiple hazard classifications, the hose stream allowance and water supply duration shallbe in accordance with one of the following:

(1) The water supply requirements for the highest hazard classification within the system shall be used.

(2) The water supply requirements for each individual hazard classification shall be used in thecalculations for the design area for that hazard.

(3)

19.2.6.2*

Water allowance for outside hose shall be added to the sprinkler requirement at the connection to the citymain or a private fire hydrant, whichever is closer to the system riser.

19.2.6.3

Where inside hose connections are planned or are required, the following shall apply:

(1) A total water allowance of 50 gpm (190 L/min) for a single hose connection installation shall be addedto the sprinkler requirements.

(2) A total water allowance of 100 gpm (380 L/min) for a multiple hose connection installation shall beadded to the sprinkler requirements.

(3) The water allowance shall be added in 50 gpm (190 L/min) increments beginning at the most remotehose connection, with each increment added at the pressure required by the sprinkler system designat that point.

19.2.6.3.1

Where the system is a combined sprinkler/standpipe system (Class I or Class III) and the building is fullysprinklered in accordance with NFPA 13, no inside hose demand shall be required at any of the standpipeoutlets.

19.2.6.4*

When hose valves for fire department use are attached to wet pipe sprinkler system risers in accordancewith 16.15.2, the following shall apply:

(1) The sprinkler system demand shall not be required to be added to standpipe demand as determinedfrom NFPA 14.

(2) Where the combined sprinkler system demand and hose stream allowance of Table 19.3.3.1.2 exceedsthe requirements of NFPA 14, this higher demand shall be used.

(3) For partially sprinklered buildings, the sprinkler demand, not including hose stream allowance, asindicated in Figure 19.3.3.1.1 shall be added to the requirements given in NFPA 14.

19.2.7* High Volume Low Speed (HVLS) Fans.

The installation of HVLS fans in buildings equipped with sprinklers, including ESFR sprinklers, shall complywith the following:

(1) The maximum fan diameter shall be 24 ft (7.3 m).

(2) The HVLS fan shall be centered approximately between four adjacent sprinklers.

(3) The vertical clearance from the HVLS fan to sprinkler deflector shall be a minimum of 3 ft (0.9 m).

(4) All HVLS fans shall be interlocked to shut down immediately upon a waterflow alarm. Where thebuilding is protected with a fire alarm system, this interlock shall be in accordance with therequirements of NFPA 72.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

In Sections 19.2, 19.2.3 and 19.2.4.1, the references are from the 2016 edition of the NFPA 13. These matters need to be revised to match the new chapter structure for the standard.

* For systems with multiple hazard classifications where the higher classification only lies within single

rooms less than or equal to 400 ft2 (37 m2) in area with no such rooms adjacent, the water supplyrequirements for the principal occupancy shall be used for the remainder of the system.

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FR-647

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Larry Keeping

Organization: PLC Fire Safety Solutions

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Tue May 09 19:52:20 EDT 2017

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Public Comment No. 170-NFPA 13-2017 [ New Section after 19.3.3.1.1 ]

19.3.3.1.1.1

The maximum design area for miscellaneous and low-piled storage shall be 3000 ft2 (279 m2).

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

This text appears as 19.3.3.1.2.1. It should be relocated as a subsection of the density/area curve items; not water supply and hose stream allowances.

See also PC for addition of former 13.2.1 truncated density/area table in annex.

Related Public Comments for This Document

Related Comment Relationship

Public Comment No. 172-NFPA 13-2017 [Section No. 19.3.3.1.2.1]

Public Comment No. 174-NFPA 13-2017 [New Section after A.19.3.2.6]

Related Item

PI-167

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Robert Upson

Organization: National Fire Sprinkler Association

Affilliation: NFSA Engineering and Standards Committee

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Tue May 09 14:49:54 EDT 2017

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Public Comment No. 172-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 19.3.3.1.2.1 ]

19.3.3.1.2.1

The maximum design area for miscellaneous and low-piled storage shall be 3000 ft 2 (279 m 2 ).

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Relocate to 19.3.3.1.1.1 for clarity.

Related Public Comments for This Document

Related Comment Relationship

Public Comment No. 170-NFPA 13-2017 [New Section after 19.3.3.1.1] Suggested relocation for clarity

Public Comment No. 174-NFPA 13-2017 [New Section after A.19.3.2.6]

Related Item

PI-167

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Robert Upson

Organization: National Fire Sprinkler Association

Affilliation: NFSA Engineering and Standards Committee

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Tue May 09 14:54:11 EDT 2017

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Public Comment No. 160-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 19.3.3.2.3.1 ]

19.3.3.2.3.1

Where listed quick-response sprinklers, including extended coverage quick-response sprinklers, are usedthroughout a system or portion of a system having the same hydraulic design basis, the system area ofoperation shall be permitted to be reduced without revising the density as indicated in Figure 19.3.3.2.3.1when all of the following conditions are satisfied:

(1) Wet pipe system

(2) Light hazard or ordinary hazard occupancy

(3) 20 ft (6.1 m) maximum ceiling height

(4) No unprotected ceiling pockets as allowed by 10.2.9 and 11.2.7 exceeding 32 ft2 (3.0 m2)

(5) No unprotected areas above cloud ceilings as allowed by 9.2.7

Figure 19.3.3.2.3.1 Design Area Reduction for Quick-Response Sprinklers. (in the figure, makesure the "less than or equal to" sign is printed correctly before "20 ft" on the third note)

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

In the figure that was re-drawn after the reorganization, the sign did not print correctly in the note, which alters the meaning of the figure incorrectly.

Related Item

FR647

Submitter Information Verification

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Submitter Full Name: Kenneth Isman

Organization: University of Maryland

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Tue May 09 14:20:27 EDT 2017

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Public Comment No. 68-NFPA 13-2017 [ Sections 19.6, 19.7, 19.8, 19.9 ]

Move Sections 19.6, 19.7, 19.8, 19.9

19.6

to a new Chapter 27 and renumber the proposed Chapter 27 and all subsequent chapters.

27.2 Hydraulic Calculation Procedures.

19 27 .6 2 .1* General.

19 27 .6 2 .1.1

A calculated system for a building, or a calculated addition to a system in an existing sprinklered building,shall supersede the rules in this standard governing pipe schedules, except that all systems shall continueto be limited by area.

19 27 .6 2 .1.2

Pipe sizes shall be no less than 1 in. (25 mm) nominal for black or galvanized steel piping and 3⁄4 in.(20 mm) nominal for copper tubing or brass, stainless steel, or nonmetallic piping listed for fire sprinklerservice unless permitted by 28.5 and 28.6.

19 27 .6 2 .1.3

The size of pipe, number of sprinklers per branch line, and number of branch lines per cross main shallotherwise be limited only by the available water supply.

19 27 .6 2 .1.4*

Unless required by other NFPA standards, the velocity of water flow shall not be limited when hydrauliccalculations are performed using the Hazen–Williams or Darcy Weisbach formulas.

19 27 .6 2 .1.5

However, sprinkler spacing and all other rules covered in this and other applicable standards shall beobserved.

19 27 .6 2 .1.6

Hydraulic calculations shall extend to the effective point of the water supply where the characteristics of thewater supply are known.

19 27 .6 2 .2 Formulas.

19 27 .6 2 .2.1 Friction Loss Formula.

19 27 .6 2 .2.1.1

Pipe friction losses shall be determined on the basis of the Hazen–Williams formula, as follows:

[19 27 .4 2 .2.1

where:

p = frictional resistance (psi/ft of pipe)

Q = flow (gpm)

C = friction loss coefficient

d = actual internal diameter of pipe (in.)

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19 27 .6 2 .2.1.2

For SI units, the following equation shall be used:

[19 27 .4 2 .2.1

where:

pm = frictional resistance (bar/m of pipe)

Qm = flow (L/min)

C = friction loss coefficient

dm = actual internal diameter (mm)

19 27 .6 2 .2.1.3

For antifreeze systems greater than 40 gal (150 L) in size, the friction loss shall also be calculated using theDarcy–Weisbach formula:

[19 27 .4 2 .2.1

where:

ΔP = friction loss (psi)

f = friction loss factor from Moody diagram

l = length of pipe or tube (ft)

ρ = density of fluid (lb/ft3)

Q = flow in pipe or tube (gpm)

d = inside diameter of tube (in.)

19 27 .6 2 .2.2 Velocity Pressure Formula.

Velocity pressure shall be determined on the basis of the following formula:

[19 27 .4 2 .2.2

where:

Pv = velocity pressure (psi) (SI, 1 psi = 0.0689 bar)

Q = flow (gpm) (SI, 1 gal = 3.785 L)

D = inside diameter (in.) (SI, 1 in. = 25.4 mm)

19 27 .6 2 .2.3 Normal Pressure Formula.

Normal pressure (Pn) shall be determined on the basis of the following formula:

[19.4.2.3]

where:

Pn = normal pressure

Pt = total pressure [psi (bar)]

Pv = velocity pressure [psi (bar)]

19 27 .6 2 .2.4 Hydraulic Junction Points.

19 27 .6 2 .2.4.1

Pressures at hydraulic junction points shall balance within 0.5 psi (0.03 bar).

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19 27 .6 2 .2.4.2

The highest pressure at the junction point, and the total flows as adjusted, shall be carried into thecalculations.

19 27 .6 2 .2.4.3

Pressure balancing shall be permitted through the use of a K-factor developed for branch lines or portionsof systems using the formula in 19.6.2.5.

19 27 .6 2 .2.5 K-Factor Formula.

K-factors, flow from an orifice, or pressure from an orifice shall be determined on the basis of the followingformula:

[19 27 .4 2 .2.5

where:

Kn = equivalent K at a node

Q = flow at the node

P = pressure at the node

19 27 .6 2 .3 Equivalent Pipe Lengths of Valves and Fittings.

19 27 .6 2 .3.1 Pipe and Fittings.

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19 27 .6 2 .3.1.1

Table 19 27 .6 2 .3.1.1 shall be used to determine the equivalent length of pipe for fittings and devicesunless manufacturer’s test data indicate that other factors are appropriate.

Table 19 Table 27 .6 2 .3.1.1 Equivalent Schedule 40 Steel Pipe Length Chart

Fittings and Valves Expressed in Equivalent Fe

Fittingsand

Valves

1⁄2 in. 3⁄4 in. 1 in. 11⁄4 in. 11⁄2 in. 2 in. 21⁄2 in. 3 in. 31⁄2 in. 4 in.

(15 mm) (20 mm) (25 mm) (32 mm) (40 mm) (50 mm) (65 mm) (80 mm) (90 mm) (100 mm)

45°elbow

— 1 (0.3) 1 (0.3) 1 (0.3) 2 (0.6) 2 (0.6) 3 (0.9) 3 (0.9) 3 (0.9) 4 (1.2)

90°standard

elbow1 (0.3) 2 (0.6) 2 (0.6) 3 (0.9) 4 (1.2) 5 (1.5) 6 (1.8) 7 (2.1) 8 (2.4)

10

(3)

90°long-turn

elbow0.5 (0.2) 1 (0.3) 2 (0.6) 2 (0.6) 2 (0.6) 3 (0.9) 4 (1.2) 5 (1.5) 5 (1.5) 6 (1.8)

Tee orcross(flow

turned90°)

3 (0.9) 4 (1.2) 5 (1.5) 6 (1.8) 8 (2.4)

10

(3)

12 (3.7) 15 (4.6) 17 (5.2) 20 (6.1)

Butterflyvalve

— — — — — 6 (1.8) 7 (2.1)

10

(3)

— 12 (3.7)

Gatevalve

— — — — — 1 (0.3) 1 (0.3) 1 (0.3) 1 (0.3) 2 (0.6)

Vanetype flow

switch 6 (1.8) 9 (2.7) 10 (3) 14 (4.3) 17 (5.2) 22 (6.7)

Swingcheck*

— — 5 (1.5) 7 (2.1) 9 (2.7) 11 (3.3) 14 (4.3) 16 (4.9) 19 (5.8) 22 (6.7)

Note: Information on 1⁄2 in. pipe is included in this table only because it is allowed under 8.15.19.4 and8.15.19.5 (Note - Need to correct these section references) .

*Due to the variation in design of swing check valves, the pipe equivalents indicated in this table areconsidered average.

19 27 .6 2 .3.1.2

For saddle-type fittings having friction loss greater than that shown in Table 19.6.3.1.1, the increasedfriction loss shall be included in hydraulic calculations.

19 27 .6 2 .3.1.3 Equivalent Length Modifier.

19 27 .6 2 .3.1.3.1

For internal pipe diameters different from Schedule 40 steel pipe [Schedule 30 for pipe diameters 8 in.(200 mm) and larger], the equivalent length shown in Table 19.6.3.1.1 shall be multiplied by a factor derivedfrom the following formula:

[19 27 .4 2 .3.1

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19 27 .6 2 .3.1.3.2

The factor thus obtained shall be further modified as required by Table 19.6.3.1.1. This table shall apply toother types of pipe listed in Table 19.6.3.1.1 only where modified by factors from 19.6.3.1.1 and 19.6.3.2.

19 27 .6 2 .3.2 C Factors.

Table 19 27 .6 2 .3.1.1 shall be used with a Hazen–Williams C factor of 120 only.

19 27 .6 2 .3.2.1

For other values of C, the values in Table 19 27 .6 2 .3.1.1 shall be multiplied by the factors indicated inTable 19 27 .6 2 .3.2.1.

Table 19 Table 27 .6 2 .3.2.1 C Value Multiplier

Value of C 100 130 140 150

Multiplying factor 0.713 1.16 1.33 1.51

Note: These factors are based upon the friction loss through the fitting being independent of the C factoravailable to the piping.

19 27 .6 2 .3.3 Valves.

Specific friction loss values or equivalent pipe lengths for alarm valves, dry pipe valves, deluge valves,strainers, and other devices shall be made available to the authority having jurisdiction.

19 27 .6 2 .3.4

Hydraulic design calculations shall include a design area selected to include ceiling sprinklers adjacent tothe water curtain.

19 27 .6 2 .3.5 Differing Values.

Specific friction loss values or equivalent pipe lengths for listed fittings not in Table 7.4.1 (Note: needcorrect section reference) shall be used in hydraulic calculations where these losses or equivalent pipelengths are different from those shown in Table 19 27 .6 2 .3.1.1.

19 27 .6 2 .4* Calculation Procedure.

19 27 .6 2 .4.1*

For all systems the design area shall be the hydraulically most demanding based on the criteria ofChapter 11, Chapter 12, (Note: Need correct chapter references) or the special design approaches inaccordance with the requirements of Chapter 22 (Note: need correct reference) .

19 27 .6 2 .4.1.1 Room Design Method.

Where the design is based on the room design method, the calculation shall be based on the room andcommunicating space, if any, that is hydraulically the most demanding.

19 27 .6 2 .4.2 Density/Area Method.

19 27 .6 2 .4.2.1*

Where the design is based on the density/area method, the design area shall be a rectangular area havinga dimension parallel to the branch lines at least 1.2 times the square root of the area of sprinkler operation(A) used, which shall permit the inclusion of sprinklers on both sides of the cross main.

19 27 .6 2 .4.2.2

Any fractional sprinkler shall be carried to the next higher whole sprinkler.

19 27 .6 2 .4.2.3

In systems having branch lines with an insufficient number of sprinklers to fulfill the 1.2 requirement, thedesign area shall be extended to include sprinklers on adjacent branch lines supplied by the same crossmain.

19 27 .6 2 .4.2.4*

Where the available floor area for a specific area/density design criteria, including any extension of area asrequired by 19.2.2 and Section 20.10, (Note: need correct section references) is less than the requiredminimum design area, the design area shall be permitted to only include those sprinklers within theavailable design area.

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19 27 .6 2 .4.2.5

Where the total design discharge from these operating sprinklers is less than the minimum requireddischarge determined by multiplying the required design density times the required minimum design area,an additional flow shall be added at the point of connection of the branch line to the cross main furthestfrom the source to increase the overall demand, not including hose stream allowance, to the minimumrequired discharge.

19 27 .6 2 .4.3 CMSA Sprinkler Method.

19 27 .6 2 .4.3.1

For CMSA sprinklers, the design area shall be a rectangular area having a dimension parallel to the branchlines at least 1.2 times the square root of the area protected by the number of sprinklers to be included inthe design area. The design area protected by the number of sprinklers to be used by the 1.2 rule shall bebased on the maximum allowable area per sprinkler.

19 27 .6 2 .4.3.2

Any fractional sprinkler shall be carried to the next higher whole sprinkler.

19 27 .6 2 .4.3.3

In systems having branch lines with an insufficient number of sprinklers to fulfill the 1.2 requirement, thedesign area shall be extended to include sprinklers on adjacent branch lines supplied by the same crossmain.

19 27 .6 2 .4.4 ESFR Sprinkler Method.

For ESFR sprinklers, the design area shall consist of the most hydraulically demanding area of 12sprinklers, consisting of four sprinklers on each of three branch lines, unless other specific numbers ofdesign sprinklers are required in other sections of this standard.

19 27 .6 2 .4.5* Gridded Systems.

19 27 .6 2 .4.5.1

For gridded systems, the designer shall verify that the hydraulically most demanding area is being used.

19 27 .6 2 .4.5.2

A minimum of two additional sets of calculations shall be submitted to demonstrate peaking of demand areafriction loss when compared to areas immediately adjacent on either side along the same branch lines,unless the requirements of 19.6.4.5.3 are met.

19 27 .6 2 .4.5.3

Computer programs that show the peaking of the demand area friction loss shall be acceptable based on asingle set of calculations.

19 27 .6 2 .4.6 Design Densities.

19 27 .6 2 .4.6.1*

System piping shall be hydraulically designed using design densities and areas of operation in accordancewith 19.3.3.2 or Chapter 12 (Note: need correct references) as required for the occupancies or hazardsinvolved.

19 27 .6 2 .4.6.2*

The density shall be calculated on the basis of floor area of sprinkler operation. Where sprinklers areinstalled under a sloped ceiling, the area used for this calculation shall be the horizontal plane below thesprinklers.

19 27 .6 2 .4.6.3

The area covered by any sprinkler used in hydraulic design and calculations shall be the horizontaldistances measured between the sprinklers on the branch line and between the branch lines in accordancewith 9.5.2 (Note: need correct section reference) .

19 27 .6 2 .4.6.4

Where sprinklers are installed above and below a ceiling or in a case where more than two areas aresupplied from a common set of branch lines, the branch lines and supplies shall be calculated to supply thelargest water demand.

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19 27 .6 2 .4.6.5*

For sloped ceiling applications, the area of sprinkler application for density calculations shall be based uponthe projected horizontal area.

19 27 .6 2 .4.7* Design Area Sprinklers.

19 27 .6 2 .4.7.1

Each sprinkler in the design area and the remainder of the hydraulically designed system shall discharge ata flow rate at least equal to the stipulated minimum water application rate (density) multiplied by the area ofsprinkler operation.

19 27 .6 2 .4.7.1.1

Where sprinklers are required to discharge a specific flow or pressure rather than a density, each sprinklerin the design area shall discharge at a flow or pressure at least equal to the minimum required.

19 27 .6 2 .4.7.2*

Where the design area is equal to or greater than the area in Table 19 27 .6 2 .4.7.2 for the hazard being

protected by the sprinkler system, the discharge for sprinklers protecting small compartments 55 ft2

(5.1 m2) or less, such as closets, washrooms, and similar compartments that are in the design area, shallbe permitted to be omitted from the hydraulic calculations.

Table 19 Table 27 .6 2 .4.7.2 Minimum Design Area

Occupancy HazardClassification

Minimum Design Area to Omit Discharge from Sprinklers in Small

Compartments in Design Area [ft2 (m2)])

Light hazard–wet pipesystem 1500 (139)

Light hazard–dry pipesystem 1950 (181)

Ordinary hazard–wet pipesystem 1500 (139)

Ordinary hazard–dry pipesystem 1950 (181)

Extra hazard–wet pipesystem 2500 (232)

Extra hazard–dry pipesystem 3250 (300)

19 27 .6 2 .4.7.2.1

The sprinklers in these small compartments shall be capable of discharging the minimum densityappropriate for the hazard they protect in accordance with Figure 19.3.3.1.1.

19 27 .6 2 .4.7.2.2

The requirements of 19 27 . 6 2 .4.7.2 shall only apply where the area of application is equal to or greaterthan the area shown in Table 19 27 .6 2 .4.7.2 for the appropriate hazard classification (including a30 percent increase for dry pipe systems).

19 27 .6 2 .4.7.3

The requirements of 19 27 . 6 2 .4.7.1.1 to include every sprinkler in the design area shall not apply wheresprinklers are provided above and below obstructions such as wide ducts or tables.

19 27 .6 2 .4.7.3.1

Sprinklers under the obstruction shall not be required to be included in the hydraulic calculation of theceiling sprinklers.

19 27 .6 2 .4.7.3.2

Where the piping to sprinklers under obstructions follows the same sizing pattern as the branch lines, noadditional hydraulic calculations shall be required for sprinklers under obstructions.

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19 27 .6 2 .4.7.4

Water demand of sprinklers installed in concealed spaces shall not be required to be added to the ceilingdemand.

19 27 .6 2 .4.7.5

Calculations shall begin at the hydraulically most remote sprinkler.

19 27 .6 2 .4.7.6

The calculated pressure at each sprinkler shall be used to determine the discharge flow rate for thatparticular sprinkler.

19 27 .6 2 .4.7.7

Where sprinklers are installed under a sloped ceiling, the area shall be calculated on a horizontal planebelow the sprinklers.

19 27 .6 2 .4.8 Friction Loss.

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19 27 .6 2 .4.8.1

Pipe friction loss shall be calculated in accordance with the Hazen–Williams formula with C values fromTable 19 27 .6 2 .4.8.1, as follows:

(1) Pipe, fittings, and devices such as valves, meters, flow switches in pipes 2 in. (50 mm) or less in size,and strainers shall be included, and elevation changes that affect the sprinkler discharge shall becalculated.

(2) Tie-in drain piping shall not be included in the hydraulic calculations.

(3) The loss for a tee or a cross shall be calculated where flow direction change occurs based on theequivalent pipe length of the piping segment in which the fitting is included.

(4) The tee at the top of a riser nipple shall be included in the branch line, the tee at the base of a risernipple shall be included in the riser nipple, and the tee or cross at a cross main–feed main junctionshall be included in the cross main.

(5) Fitting loss for straight-through flow in a tee or cross shall not be included.

(6) The loss of reducing elbows based on the equivalent feet value of the smallest outlet shall becalculated.

(7) The equivalent feet value for the standard elbow on any abrupt 90-degree turn, such as the screw-typepattern shall be used.

(8) The equivalent feet value for the long-turn elbow on any sweeping 90-degree turn, such as a flanged,welded, or mechanical joint-elbow typeshall be used. (See Table 19 27 .6 2 .3.1.1.)

(9) Friction loss shall be excluded for the fitting directly connected to a sprinkler.

(10) Losses through a pressure-reducing valve shall be included based on the normal inlet pressurecondition. Pressure loss data from the manufacturer's literature shall be used.

Table 19 Table 27 .6 2 .4.8.1 Hazen–Williams C Values

Pipe or Tube C Value*

Unlined cast or ductile iron 100

Black steel (dry systems including preaction) 100

Black steel (wet systems including deluge) 120

Galvanized steel (dry systems including preaction) 100

Galvanized steel (wet systems including deluge) 120

Plastic (listed) all 150

Cement-lined cast- or ductile iron 140

Copper tube, brass or stainless steel 150

Asbestos cement 140

Concrete 140

*The authority having jurisdiction is permitted to allow other C values.

19 27 .6 2 .4.8.2*

For antifreeze systems greater than 40 gal (150 L) in size, the pipe friction loss shall be calculated using theDarcy-Weisbach equation shown in 19.6.2.1.3 using a Moody diagram and ℇ ? -factors that arerepresentative of aged pipe otherwise following the methodology presented in 19 27 . 6 2 .4.8.1.

19 27 .6 2 .4.9* Orifice Plates.

19 27 .6 2 .4.9.1

Orifice plates shall not be used for balancing the system.

19 27 .6 2 .4.9.2

Unless the requirements of 19 27 . 6 2 .4.9.3 or 19 27 . 6 2 .4.9.4 are met, mixing of sprinklers of differentK-factors by reducing the K-factor of adjacent sprinklers on the same branch line leading back to the mainfor the purpose of minimizing sprinkler over discharge shall not be permitted.

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19 27 .6 2 .4.9.3

Sprinklers with different K-factors shall be acceptable for special use such as exposure protection, smallrooms or enclosures, or directional discharge. (See 3.3.196 for definition of small rooms.)

19 27 .6 2 .4.9.4

Extended-coverage and residential sprinklers with a different K-factor shall be acceptable for part of theprotection area where installed in accordance with their listing.

19 27 .6 2 .4.10* Pressures.

19 27 .6 2 .4.10.1

When calculating flow from an orifice, the total pressure (Pt) shall be used, unless the calculation method of

19 27 . 6 2 .4.10.2 is utilized.

19 27 .6 2 .4.10.2

Use of the normal pressure (Pn) calculated by subtracting the velocity pressure from the total pressure shall

be permitted. Where the normal pressure is used, it shall be used on all branch lines and cross mainswhere applicable.

19 27 .6 2 .4.10.3

Flow from a sprinkler shall be calculated using the nominal K-factor except that the manufacturer's adjustedK-factors shall be utilized for dry-type sprinklers.

19 27 .6 2 .4.11 Minimum Operating Pressure.

19 27 .6 2 .4.11.1

Minimum operating pressure of any sprinkler shall be 7 psi (0.5 bar).

19 27 .6 2 .4.11.2

Where a higher minimum operating pressure for the desired application is specified in the listing of thesprinkler, this higher pressure shall be required.

19 27 .6 2 .4.12 Maximum Operating Pressure.

For extra hazard occupancies, palletized, solid-piled, bin box, back-to-back shelf storage, shelf storage, orrack storage, the maximum operating pressure of any sprinkler shall be 175 psi (12 bar).

19 27 .6 2 .5 In-Rack Sprinklers.

19 27 .6 2 .5.1

Pipes to in-rack sprinklers shall be sized by hydraulic calculations.

19 27 .6 2 .5.2

Water demand of sprinklers installed in racks or water curtains shall be added to the ceiling sprinkler waterdemand at the point of connection. Demands shall be balanced to the higher pressure. (See Chapter 8.)

19 27 . 7 3 Hose Allowance.

Water allowance for outside hose shall be added to the sprinkler and inside hose requirement at theconnection to the city water main or a yard hydrant, whichever is closer to the system riser.

19 27 . 8 4 Hydraulic Calculation Forms.

19 27 .8 4 .1 General.

Hydraulic calculations shall be prepared on form sheets that include a summary sheet, detailed worksheets,and a graph sheet. [See Figure A.19 27 .8 4 .2(a), Figure A.19 27 .8 4 .3, and Figure A.19 27 .8 4 .4 forcopies of typical forms.]

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19 27 .8 4 .2* Summary Sheet.

The summary sheet shall contain the following information, where applicable:

(1) Date

(2) Location

(3) Name of owner and occupant

(4) Building number or other identification

(5) Description of hazard (for storage applications, the commodity classification, storage height, and rackconfiguration shall be included)

(6) Name and address of contractor or designer

(7) Name of approving agency

(8) System design requirements, as follows:

(9) Design area of water application, ft 2 (m 2 ).

(10) Minimum rate of water application (density), gpm/ft 2 (mm/min). Where sprinklers are listed withminimum water application in gpm (L/min) or pressure in psi (bar), the minimum rate of waterapplication shall be indicated in gpm (L/min) or pressure, psi (bar).

(11) Area per sprinkler, ft 2 (m 2 ).

(12) Total water requirements as calculated, including allowance for inside hose, outside hydrants, andwater curtain and exposure sprinklers

(13) Allowance for in-rack sprinklers, gpm (L/min)

(14) Limitations (dimension, flow, and pressure) on extended coverage or other listed special sprinklers

19 27 .8 4 .3* Detailed Worksheets.

Detailed worksheets or computer printout sheets shall contain the following information:

(1) Sheet number

(2) Sprinkler description and discharge constant (K)

(3) Hydraulic reference points

(4) Flow in gpm (L/min)

(5) Pipe size

(6) Pipe lengths, center-to-center of fittings

(7) Equivalent pipe lengths for fittings and devices

(8) Friction loss in psi/ft (bar/m) of pipe

(9) Total friction loss between reference points

(10) In-rack sprinkler demand balanced to ceiling demand

(11) Elevation head in psi (bar) between reference points

(12) Required pressure in psi (bar) at each reference point

(13) Velocity pressure and normal pressure if included in calculations

(14) Notes to indicate starting points or reference to other sheets or to clarify data shown

(15)

(16) Combined K-factor calculations for sprinklers on drops, armovers, or sprigs where calculations do notbegin at the sprinkler

* Diagram to accompany gridded system calculations to indicate flow quantities and directions for lineswith sprinklers operating in the remote area

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19 27 .8 4 .4* Graph Sheet.

A graphic representation of the complete hydraulic calculation shall be plotted on semiexponential graph

paper (Q1.85) and shall include the following:

(1) Water supply curve

(2) Sprinkler system demand

(3) Hose allowance (where applicable)

(4) In-rack sprinkler demand (where applicable)

19 27 .8 4 .5 Hydraulic Reports.

19 27 .8 4 .5.1* General.

19 27 .8 4 .5.1.1

Hydraulic calculations shall be prepared on form sheets that include a summary sheet, a graph sheet, awater supply analysis, a node analysis, and detailed worksheets.

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19 27 .8 4 .5.1.2

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The data shall be presented in the order shown in Figure 19 27 .8 4 .5.1.2(a) through Figure19 27 .8 4 .5.1.2(d).

Figure 19 Figure 27 .8 4 .5.1.2(a) Summary Sheet.

Figure 19 Figure 27 .8 4 .5.1.2(b) Graph Sheet.

Figure 19 Figure 27 .8 4 .5.1.2(c) Supply and Node Analysis Sheet.

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Figure 19 Figure 27 .8 4 .5.1.2(d) Detailed Worksheet.

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19 27 .8 4 .5.2 Summary Sheet.

The summary sheet as shown in Figure 19.8.5.1.2(a) shall contain the following information, whereapplicable:

(1) Project name and date

(2) Location (including street address)

(3) Owner or expected occupant of space being designed

(4) Name, address, and phone number of installing contractor

(5) Name and phone number of designer

(6) Authority having jurisdiction

(7) Standard or document system is being designed to, including the edition of the document

(8) Design area number and location

(9) Drawing or sheet number where design area is located

(10) Occupancy or commodity classification and information

(11) For storage applications (including miscellaneous), additional information including storage height,ceiling height, storage configuration, aisle width, orientation of upright or pendent, sprinkler K-factorand sprinkler temperature, and the table and or curve utilized in the design

(12) System type, including the system volume with type of protection system indicated in the notes

(13) Sprinkler type, including coverage and response type

(14) Slope of roof or ceiling within the design area

(15) System design requirements, as follows:

(16) Design area of application, ft 2 (m 2 )

(17) Minimum rate of water application (density), gpm/ft 2 (mm/min)

(18) Area per sprinkler, ft 2 (m 2 )

(19) Number of sprinklers calculated

(20) Total water requirements as calculated, including allowance for inside hose, outside hydrants, watercurtain, and exposure sprinklers, and allowance for in-rack sprinklers, gpm (L/min)

(21) Ceiling height if used for quick response sprinkler reduction

(22) Elevation of highest calculated sprinkler

(23) Water supply information, including the following:

(24) Date and time of test

(25) Location of the test and flow hydrant(s)

(26) Source of the water for the flow test

(27) Elevation of the test hydrant relative to the finished floor

(28) Size of fire pump, gpm @ psi

(29) Size of on-site water tank

(30) Notes that include peaking information for calculations performed by a computer program, type ofpreaction system, limitations (dimension, flow, and pressure) on extended-coverage or other listedspecial sprinklers, system type, including the system volume

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19 27 .8 4 .5.3 Graph Sheet.

A graphic representation of the complete hydraulic calculation shall be plotted on semiexponential graph

paper (Q1.85) as shown in Figure 19 27 .8 4 .5.1.2(b) and shall include the following:

(1) Water supply curve

(2) Sprinkler system demand

(3) Hose demand (where applicable)

(4) In-rack sprinkler demand (where applicable)

(5) Additional pressures supplied by a fire pump or other source (when applicable)

19 27 .8 4 .5.4 Supply Analysis.

Information summarized from the graph sheet as shown in Figure 19 27 .8 4 .5.1.2(c) shall include thefollowing:

(1) Node tag at the source

(2) Static pressure [psi (bar)] available at the source

(3) Residual pressure [psi (bar)] available at the source

(4) Total flow [gpm (L/min)] available at the source

(5) Available pressure [psi (bar)] at the source when the total calculated demand is flowing

(6) Total calculated demand [gpm (L/min)] at the source

(7) Required pressure [psi (bar)] when flowing total calculated demand

19 27 .8 4 .5.5 Node Analysis.

Organized information as shown in Figure 19 27 .8 4 .5.1.2(c) regarding the node tags given to eachhydraulic reference point on the system as indicated on the shop drawings shall include the followinginformation:

(1) Node tag for each specific point on the system used in the hydraulic calculations

(2) Elevation in ft (m) of each node tag

(3) K-factor of flowing nodes (such as sprinklers)

(4) Hose allowance in gpm (L/min) requirements for the node tag

(5) Pressure in psi (bar) at the node

(6) Discharge in gpm (L/min) calculated at the node

(7) Notes that indicate any special requirements for the node

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19 27 .8 4 .5.6 Detailed Worksheets.

Detailed worksheets as shown in Figure 19 27 .8 4 .5.1.2(d) or computer printout sheets shall contain thefollowing information:

(1) Sheet number

(2) Hydraulic reference points used in each step

(3) Elevation in ft (m) at each hydraulic reference point

(4) Sprinkler description and discharge constant (K) for the flowing reference point

(5) Flow in gpm (L/min) for the flowing reference point (when applicable)

(6) Total flow in gpm (L/min) through each step

(7) Nominal pipe size in in. (mm)

(8) Actual internal diameter of pipe in in. (mm)

(9) Quantity and length in ft (m) of each type of fitting and device

(10) Pipe lengths in ft (m), center-to-center of fittings

(11) Equivalent pipe lengths in ft (m) of fittings and devices for the step

(12) Total equivalent length in ft (m) of pipes and fitting for the step

(13) C-factor used in each step

(14) Friction loss in psi/ft (bar/m) of pipe

(15) Sum of the pressures from the previous step (starting pressure at beginning)

(16) Elevation head in psi (bar) between reference points

(17) Total friction loss in psi (bar) between reference points

(18) Required pressure in psi (bar) at each reference point

(19) Notes and other information shall include the following:

(20) Velocity pressure and normal pressure if included in calculations

(21) In-rack sprinkler demand balanced to ceiling demand

(22) Notes to indicate starting points or reference to other sheets or to clarify data shown

(23) Diagram to accompany gridded system calculations to indicate flow quantities and directions forlines with sprinklers operating in the remote area

(24) Combined K-factor calculations for sprinklers on drops, armovers, or sprigs where calculations donot begin at the sprinkler

(25) The pressure [psi/(bar)] loss assigned the backflow device when included on a system

(26) Friction factor and Reynolds number when the Darcy–Weisbach equation is used

19 27 . 9 5 Pipe Schedules.

Pipe schedules shall not be used, except in existing systems and in new systems or extensions to existingsystems described in Chapter 11. Water supplies shall conform to 19.3.2.

19 27 .9 5 .1* General.

19 27 .9 5 .1.1

The pipe schedule sizing provisions shall not apply to hydraulically calculated systems.

19 27 .9 5 .1.2

Sprinkler systems having sprinklers with K-factors other than 5.6 nominal, listed piping material other thanthat covered in Table 7.3.1.1, extra hazard Group 1 and Group 2 systems, and exposure protection systemsshall be hydraulically calculated.

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19 27 .9 5 .1.3

The number of automatic sprinklers on a given pipe size on one floor shall not exceed the number given in19.9.2, 19.9.3, or 19.9.4 for a given occupancy.

19 27 .9 5 .1.4* Size of Risers.

Each system riser shall be sized to supply all sprinklers on the riser on any one floor as determined by thestandard schedules of pipe sizes in 19.9.2, 19.9.3, or 19.9.4.

19 27 .9 5 .1.5 Slatted Floors, Large Floor Openings, Mezzanines, and Large Platforms.

Buildings having slatted floors or large unprotected floor openings without approved stops shall be treatedas one area with reference to pipe sizes, and the feed mains or risers shall be of the size required for thetotal number of sprinklers.

19 27 .9 5 .1.6 Stair Towers.

Stair towers, or other construction with incomplete floors, if piped on independent risers, shall be treated asone area with reference to pipe sizes.

19 27 .9 5 .2 Schedule for Light Hazard Occupancies.

19 27 .9 5 .2.1 Branch Lines.

19 27 .9 5 .2.1.1

Unless permitted by 19 27 . 9 5 .2.1.2 or 19 27 . 9 5 .2.1.3, branch lines shall not exceed eight sprinklers oneither side of a cross main.

19 27 .9 5 .2.1.2

Where more than eight sprinklers on a branch line are necessary, lines shall be permitted to be increasedto nine sprinklers by making the two end lengths 1 in. (25 mm) and 11⁄4 in. (32 mm), respectively, and thesizes thereafter standard.

19 27 .9 5 .2.1.3

Ten sprinklers shall be permitted to be placed on a branch line, making the two end lengths 1 in. (25 mm)and 11⁄4 in. (32 mm), respectively, and feeding the tenth sprinkler by a 21⁄2 in. (65 mm) pipe.

19 27 .9 5 .2.2 Pipe Sizes.

19 27 .9 5 .2.2.1

Pipe sizes shall be in accordance with Table 19 27 .9 5 .2.2.1.

Table 19 Table 27 .9 5 .2.2.1 Light Hazard Pipe Schedules

Steel Copper

1 in. (25 mm) 2 sprinklers 1 in.(25 mm) 2 sprinklers

11⁄4 in. (32 mm) 3 sprinklers 11⁄4 in. (32 mm) 3 sprinklers

11⁄2 in. (40 mm) 5 sprinklers 11⁄2 in. (40 mm) 5 sprinklers

2 in. (50 mm) 10 sprinklers 2 in. (50 mm) 12 sprinklers

21⁄2 in. (65 mm) 30 sprinklers 21⁄2 in. (65 mm) 40 sprinklers

3 in. (80 mm) 60 sprinklers 3 in. (80 mm) 65 sprinklers

31⁄2 in. (90 mm) 100 sprinklers 31⁄2 in. (90 mm) 115 sprinklers

4 in. (100 mm) See Section 8.2 4 in. (100 mm) See Section 8.2

19 27 .9 5 .2.2.2

Each area requiring more sprinklers than the number specified for 31⁄2 in. (90 mm) pipe in Table19 27 .9 5 .2.2.1 and without subdividing partitions (not necessarily fire walls) shall be supplied by mains orrisers sized for ordinary hazard occupancies.

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19 27 .9 5 .2.3

Where sprinklers are installed above and below ceilings in accordance with Figure 19 27 .9 5 .2.3(a)through Figure 19.9.2.3(c), and such sprinklers are supplied from a common set of branch lines or separatebranch lines from a common cross main, such branch lines shall not exceed eight sprinklers above andeight sprinklers below any ceiling on either side of the cross main.

Figure 19 Figure 27 .9 5 .2.3(a) Arrangement of Branch Lines Supplying Sprinklers Above andBelow Ceiling.

Figure 19 Figure 27 .9 5 .2.3(b) Sprinkler on Riser Nipple from Branch Line in Lower Fire Area.

Figure 19 Figure 27 .9 5 .2.3(c) Arrangement of Branch Lines Supplying Sprinklers Above,Between, and Below Ceilings.

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19 27 .9 5 .2.4

Unless the requirements of 19 27 . 9 5 .2.5 are met, pipe sizing up to and including 2 1⁄2 in. (65 mm) shall beas shown in Table 19 27 .9 5 .2.4 utilizing the greatest number of sprinklers to be found on any two adjacentlevels.

Table 19 Table 27 .9 5 .2.4 Number of Sprinklers Above and Below Ceiling

Steel Copper

1 in. (25 mm) 2 sprinklers 1 in. (25 mm) 2 sprinklers

11⁄4 in. (32 mm) 4 sprinklers 11⁄4 in. (32 mm) 4 sprinklers

11⁄2 in. (40 mm) 7 sprinklers 11⁄2 in. (40 mm) 7 sprinklers

2 in. (50 mm) 15 sprinklers 2 in. (50 mm) 18 sprinklers

21⁄2 in. (65 mm) 50 sprinklers 21⁄2 in. (65 mm) 65 sprinklers

19 27 .9 5 .2.5

Branch lines and cross mains supplying sprinklers installed entirely above or entirely below ceilings shall besized in accordance with Table 19 27 .9 5 .2.2.1.

19 27 .9 5 .2.6*

Where the total number of sprinklers above and below a ceiling exceeds the number specified in Table19 27 .9 5 .2.4 for 21⁄2 in. (65 mm) pipe, the pipe supplying such sprinklers shall be increased to 3 in.(75 mm) and sized thereafter according to the schedule shown in Table 19 27 .9 5 .2.2.1 for the number ofsprinklers above or below a ceiling, whichever is larger.

19 27 .9 5 .3 Schedule for Ordinary Hazard Occupancies.

19 27 .9 5 .3.1

Unless permitted by 19 27 . 9 5 .3.2 or 19 27 . 9 5 .3.3, branch lines shall not exceed eight sprinklers oneither side of a cross main.

19 27 .9 5 .3.2

Where more than eight sprinklers on a branch line are necessary, lines shall be permitted to be increasedto nine sprinklers by making the two end lengths 1 in. (25 mm) and 11⁄4 in. (32 mm), respectively, and thesizes thereafter standard.

19 27 .9 5 .3.3

Ten sprinklers shall be permitted to be placed on a branch line, making the two end lengths 1 in. (25 mm)and 11⁄4 in. (32 mm), respectively, and feeding the tenth sprinkler by a 21⁄2 in. (65 mm) pipe.

19 27 .9 5 .3.4

Pipe sizes shall be in accordance with Table 19 27 .9 5 .3.4.

Table 19 Table 27 .9 5 .3.4 Ordinary Hazard Pipe Schedule

Steel Copper

1 in. (25 mm) 2 sprinklers 1 in. (25 mm) 2 sprinklers

11⁄4 in. (32 mm) 3 sprinklers 11⁄4 in. (32 mm) 3 sprinklers

11⁄2 in. (40 mm) 5 sprinklers 11⁄2 in. (40 mm) 5 sprinklers

2 in. (50 mm) 10 sprinklers 2 in. (50 mm) 12 sprinklers

21⁄2 in. (65 mm) 20 sprinklers 21⁄2 in. (65 mm) 25 sprinklers

3 in. (80 mm) 40 sprinklers 3 in. (80 mm) 45 sprinklers

31⁄2 in .(90 mm) 65 sprinklers 31⁄2 in. (90 mm) 75 sprinklers

4 in. (100 mm) 100 sprinklers 4 in. (100 mm) 115 sprinklers

5 in. (125 mm) 160 sprinklers 5 in. (125 mm) 180 sprinklers

6 in. (150 mm) 275 sprinklers 6 in. (150 mm) 300 sprinklers

8 in. (200 mm) See Section 8.2 8 in. (200 mm) See Section 8.2

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19 27 .9 5 .3.5

Where the distance between sprinklers on the branch line exceeds 12 ft (3.7 m) or the distance betweenthe branch lines exceeds 12 ft (3.7 m), the number of sprinklers for a given pipe size shall be in accordancewith Table 19 27 .9 5 .3.5.

Table 19 Table 27 .9 5 .3.5 Number of Sprinklers — Greater Than 12 ft (3.7 m) Separations

Steel Copper

21⁄2 in. (65 mm) 15 sprinklers 21⁄2 in. (65 mm) 20 sprinklers

3 in. (80 mm) 30 sprinklers 3 in. (80 mm) 35 sprinklers

31⁄2 in. (90 mm) 60 sprinklers 31⁄2 in. (90 mm) 65 sprinklers

Note: For other pipe and tube sizes, see Table 22.5.3.4 (Note: need correct reference) .

19 27 .9 5 .3.6

Where sprinklers are installed above and below ceilings and such sprinklers are supplied from a commonset of branch lines or separate branch lines supplied by a common cross main, such branch lines shall notexceed eight sprinklers above and eight sprinklers below any ceiling on either side of the cross main.

19 27 .9 5 .3.7

Pipe sizing up to and including 3 in. (76 mm) shall be as shown in Table 19.9.3.7 in accordance with Figure19 27 .9 5 .2.3(a), Figure 19.9.2.3(b), and Figure 19.9.2.3(c) utilizing the greatest number of sprinklers to befound on any two adjacent levels.

Table 19 Table 27 .9 5 .3.7 Number of Sprinklers Above and Below a Ceiling

Steel Copper

1 in. (25 mm) 2 sprinklers 1 in. (25 mm) 2 sprinklers

11⁄4 in. (32 mm) 4 sprinklers 11⁄4 in. (32 mm) 4 sprinklers

11⁄2 in. (40 mm) 7 sprinklers 11⁄2 in. (40 mm) 7 sprinklers

2 in. (50 mm) 15 sprinklers 2 in. (50 mm) 18 sprinklers

21⁄2 in. (65 mm) 30 sprinklers 21⁄2 in. (65 mm) 40 sprinklers

3 in. (80 mm) 60 sprinklers 3 in. (80 mm) 65 sprinklers

19 27 .9 5 .3.8

Branch lines and cross mains supplying sprinklers installed entirely above or entirely below ceilings shall besized in accordance with Table 19.9.3.4 or Table 19.9.3.5.

19 27 .9 5 .3.9*

Where the total number of sprinklers above and below a ceiling exceeds the number specified in Table19.9.3.7 for 3 in. (80 mm) pipe, the pipe supplying such sprinklers shall be increased to 31⁄2 in. (90 mm) orlarger and sized thereafter according to the schedule shown in Table 19.9.2.2.1 or Table 19.9.3.4 for thenumber of sprinklers above or below a ceiling, whichever is larger.

19 27 .9 5 .3.10

Where the distance between the sprinklers protecting the occupied area exceeds 12 ft (3.7 m) or thedistance between the branch lines exceeds 12 ft (3.7 m), the branch lines shall be sized in accordance witheither Table 19.9.3.5, taking into consideration the sprinklers protecting the occupied area only, or Table19.9.3.7, whichever requires the greater size of pipe.

19 27 .9 5 .4* Extra Hazard Occupancies.

Extra hazard occupancies shall be hydraulically calculated.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

The hydraulic calculations should not be separated from the working plan requirements and should not be before the design approaches for storage. In the flow of the proposed new standard, the design approaches for storage are separated from the design approaches for light, ordinary and extra hazard occupancies by the calculation rules. That just does not flow correctly. It forces the user to circle backwards through the standard for storage protection.

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Related Public Comments for This Document

Related Comment Relationship

Public Comment No. 67-NFPA 13-2017 [Section No. 4.6]

Related Item

FR-914 Rewrite of Chapter 19

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Kenneth Isman

Organization: University of Maryland

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Fri May 05 15:44:26 EDT 2017

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Public Comment No. 321-NFPA 13-2017 [ New Section after 19.6.1 ]

x.1 Hydraulically calculated fire sprinkler systems shall be designed to ensure the requiredsystem pressure is a minimum of ten percent but not less than ten (10) psi below the availablesupply pressure.

x.2 The maximum velocity for use in hydraulic calculations shall be 32 ft/sec (9.8 m/sec).

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Most water supplies fluctuate through the day, week, month and year, with the range in pressure movement exceeding several psi. In developing communities the water supply changes greatly over time. The use of a safety factor will aid to overcome these deficiencies.

The second part is: The purpose of this amendment is to limit the velocity in calculations. Other NFPA Codes/Standards have maximum velocity limits. For example in fire fighting piping is 20 ft/sec as NFPA 20 and 35 ft/sec in inspection, test and stationary pumps as NFPA 1963.

Related Item

PI 577

PI 576

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Lynn Nielson

Organization: City of Henderson

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Public Comment No. 313-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 20.1.1 ]

20.1.1

Miscellaneous and low-piled storage, meeting the criteria of Chapter 4, shall be protected in accordancewith the relative occupancy hazard criteria reference in that section. Table 20.1.1

Insert A new Table, an udated version of Table 13.2.1 from the 2016 edition of NFPA 13:

Table 20.1.1 Discharge Criteria for Miscellaneous and Low-Piled Storage

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

In the First Draft Report, Table 13.2.1 has been deleted and replaced with text in Chapter 4 and a reference the current 20.1.1 reference in Chapter 20 back to Chapter 4. However to deternine the required design criteria, the user must then go to Chapter 19 for the associated OH or EH curve in Figure 19.3.3.1.1. This makes the determination of the required protection awkward and hard to discern and is not at all necessary.

The new Table 20.1.1 needs to be updated, from the previous Table 13.2.1, since minimum durations have been revised in the First Draft Report. (ie. OH2 designs can now be reduced to a 60 minute duration, in lieu of the 90 from Table 13.2.1. Similarly, EH1 designs can now be reduced from 120 minutes to 90.

Additionally, at the 1st Draft Meeting the TC voted in favour of PI-513 to allow Class IV on Racks to 12 ft. to be protected as OH2 with 1 level of in-rack sprinklers, but this item has not been addressed in the rewrite. In light of this, a new Table 20.1.1 should be inserted, to provide the needed clarity and to offer all acceptable options.

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Public Comment No. 227-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 20.3.1 [Excluding any

Sub-Sections] ]

Commodity classification and the corresponding protection requirements shall be determined based on themakeup of individual storage units (ie. , unit load, pallet load, or module held together in some manner andnormally transported by material-handling equipment ) .

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

The intent of this Comment is to return the text to that from the 2016 edition of NFPA 13. In the First Draft Report, Section 20.3.1 it states that a commodity must be held together and normally transported by material handling equipment. This is very limiting and does not match the reality of many typical storage configurations. Shelf storage, solid piles, loose cartons/containers placed on racks and bin box storage do not fit that profile, so the new text should not be accepted.

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Public Comment No. 169-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 20.3.2.5 ]

20.3.2.5 Slave Pallet.

Where solid, flat-bottom, combustible pallets are used for rack storage of Class I through IV commodity upto 25 ft in height in combination with CMDA sprinklers, Section 20.xxxx 21.4.1.4.7 shall apply. (See FigureA.3.9.1.10.). For other situations where solid, flat-bottom, combustible pallets are used, judgment shall beused to decide whether the fire protection needs to be increased.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

The reference in Chapter 20 did not seem correct. I believe that the intent was to reference the one section where we tell the user what to do with slave pallets, which ended up in Chapter 21. However, this section in Chapter 21 only applies to rack storage up to 25 ft in height of Class I - IV commodities. For other commodities, we have never required an increase in ceiling sprinkler design (probably because there were in-rack sprinklers involved). During the rewrite, there was a decision to insert a warning in the "General" chapter, but we should not make new requirements for all storage when we do that.

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Public Comment No. 176-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 20.3.5 ]

20.3.5 Encapsulation. Whether or not a commodity is encapsulated shall not be used in thedetermination of the commodity classification. If an increase in fire protection is necessary due to theencapsulation, the requirements of Chapters 20 through 24 will include such additional protection.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

The rewrite had a section number and title here with no text, which violates the style manual. I attempted to put in language that fits with the theme of this section. Alternatively, the committee could just eliminate the section number and title.

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Public Comment No. 233-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 20.5.2 [Excluding any

Sub-Sections] ]

On floor storage of commodities on pallets or other storage aids that form horizontal spaces between tiersof storage shall be considered as palletized storage.

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Public Comment No. 235-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 20.5.2.1 ]

20.5.2.1 Closed Array.

Where the vertical flues between pallet loads are 6 in. (152 mm) or less, the arrangement shall beconsidered closed array.

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Public Comment No. 236-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 20.5.2.2 ]

20.5.2.2 Open Array.

Where the vertical flues between pallet loads are greater than 6 in. (152 mm), the arrangement shall beconsidered open array.

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Public Comment No. 237-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 20.5.2.3 ]

20.5.2.3 Pile Stability, Stable Piles.

Those arrays where collapse, spillage of contents, or leaning of stacks across flue spaces is not likely tooccur soon after initial fire development shall be considered as stable piles.

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Public Comment No. 238-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 20.5.2.4 ]

20.5.2.4 * Pile Stability, Unstable Piles.

Those arrays where collapse, spillage of contents, or leaning of stacks across flue spaces occurs soonafter initial fire development shall be considered as unstable piles.

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Public Comment No. 240-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 20.5.3 ]

20.5.3 Solid-Piled Storage.

Storage of commodities stacked on each other shall be considered as solid piled storage.

20.5.3.1 Closed Array.

Where solid piled storage has vertical flues between the piles of 6 in. (152 mm) or less, the storagearrangement shall be considered as closed array.

20.5.3.2 Open Array.

Where solid piled storage has vertical flues between the piles that are greater than 6 in. (152 mm), thestorage arrangement shall be considered as open array.

20.5.3.3 Pile Stability, Stable Piles.

Those arrays where collapse, spillage of content, or leaning of stacks across flue spaces is not likely tooccur soon after initial fire development shall be considered as stable piles.

20.5.3.4 * Pile Stability, Unstable Piles.

Those arrays where collapse, spillage of contents, or leaning of stacks across flue spaces occurs soonafter initial fire development shall be considered as unstable piles.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

All of these definitions are found in Chapter 3 and are duplicates. They belong in Chapter 3.

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Public Comment No. 239-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 20.5.3 [Excluding any

Sub-Sections] ]

Storage of commodities stacked on each other shall be considered as solid piled storage.

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Public Comment No. 241-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 20.5.4 ]

20.5.4 Bin Box Storage.

Storage in five-sided wood, metal, or cardboard boxes with open face on the aisles in which boxes areself-supporting or supported by a structure so designed that little or no horizontal or vertical space existsaround boxes shall be considered as bin box storage.

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Public Comment No. 242-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 20.5.5 ]

20.5.5 Shelf Storage.

Storage on structures up to and including 30 in. (0.76 m) deep and separated by aisles at least 30 in. (0.76m) wide shall be considered as shelf storage.

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Public Comment No. 243-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 20.5.6 ]

20.5.6 Back-to-Back Shelf Storage.

Two solid or perforated shelves up to 30 in. (0.76 m) in depth each, not exceeding a total depth of 60 in.(1.52 m), separated by a longitudinal vertical barrier such as plywood, particleboard, sheet metal, orequivalent, with a maximum 0.25 in. (6.4 mm) diameter penetrations and no longitudinal flue space and amaximum storage height of 15 ft (4.57 m) shall be considered as back-to-back storage.

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Duplicate From Chapter 3.3.13. Belongs in Chapter 3

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Public Comment No. 244-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 20.5.7 [Excluding any

Sub-Sections] ]

Racks on fixed rails or guides that can be moved back and forth only in a horizontal, two-dimensional planeshall be protected as movable racks.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

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Public Comment No. 246-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 20.5.8.1 ]

20.5.8.1 Open Rack.

Racks without shelving or with shelving in racks that are fixed in place with shelves having a solid surface

and a shelf area equal to or less than 20 ft 2 (1.9 m 2 ) or with shelves having a wire mesh, slatted surface,or other material with openings representing at least 50 percent of the shelf area, including the horizontalarea of rack members and where the flue spaces are maintained, shall be protected as open rack.

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Public Comment No. 248-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 20.5.8.2 ]

20.5.8.2 Shelving.

20.5.8.2.1 Rack Shelf Area.

The area of the horizontal surface of a shelf in a rack defined by perimeter aisle(s) or nominal 6 in. (152mm) flue spaces on all four sides, or by the placement of loads that block openings that would otherwiseserve as the required flue spaces, shall be considered to determine the rack shelf area.

20.5.8.2.2 Slatted Shelf Rack.

A rack where shelves are fixed in place with a series of narrow individual solid supports used as the shelfmaterial and spaced apart with regular openings shall be protected as a slatted shelf rack.

20.5.8.2.3 Solid Shelf Rack.

A rack that is not defined as an open rack where shelves are fixed in place with a solid, slatted, or wiremesh barrier used as the shelf material and having limited openings in the shelf area shall be protected asa solid shelf rack.

20.5.8.2.4 Solid

Shelving

.

The area of a shelf shall be measured by perimeter aisle or flue space on all four sides or by theplacement of loads that block openings that would otherwise serve as the required flue spaces.

20.5.8.2.4.1

Shelving material that is less than 50 percent open, or placement of loads that block openings that would

otherwise serve as the required flue spaces, greater than 20 ft2 (1.9 m2) in area shall be treated as solidshelf racks.

20.5.8.2. 4. 2

Where multiple-row racks of any height have no longitudinal flue or where double-row racks with storage up25 ft (7.6 m) in height have no longitudinal flue, the situation shall not be considered solid shelves wheretransverse flues exist at maximum 5 ft (1.5 m) intervals, and additional in-rack sprinklers shall not berequired in accordance with 16 with 25 .1. 6.3. 1 and 16 25 .1. 6.3. 2.

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Public Comment No. 257-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 20.5.8.3.2 ]

20.5.8.3.2 Aisle Width.

The horizontal dimension between the face of the loads in racks under consideration shall determine theaisle width for protection criteria.

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Public Comment No. 258-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 20.5.8.4.1 [Excluding any

Sub-Sections] ]

The space between rows of storage perpendicular to the direction of loading with a width not exceeding 24in. (610 mm) between storage shall be considered as the longitudinal flue.

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Public Comment No. 259-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 20.5.8.4.2 [Excluding any

Sub-Sections] ]

The space between rows of storage parallel to the direction of loading shall be considered as thetransverse flue. (See Figure A.3.9.3.6.)

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Public Comment No. 260-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 20.5.8.5 ]

20.5.8.5 Bulkhead.

A vertical barrier across the rack shall be considered a bulkhead.

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Public Comment No. 261-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 20.5.8.6 ]

20.5.8.6 Horizontal Barrier.

A solid barrier in the horizontal position covering the entire rack, including all flue spaces at certain heightincrements, to prevent vertical fire spread shall be considered a horizontal barrier.

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Public Comment No. 262-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 20.5.8.7 ]

20.5.8.7 Single-Row Racks.

Racks that have no longitudinal flue space and that have a depth up to 6 ft (1.8 m) with aisles having awidth of at least 3.5 ft (1.1 m) between loads on racks shall be protected as single-row racks.

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Public Comment No. 263-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 20.5.8.8 ]

20.5.8.8 Double-Row Racks.

Racks less than or equal to 12 ft (3.7 m) in depth or single-row racks placed back to back having anaggregate depth up to 12 ft (3.7 m), with aisles having an aisle width of at least 3.5 ft (1.1 m) betweenloads on racks shall be protected as double-row racks.

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Public Comment No. 264-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 20.5.8.9 ]

20.5.8.9 Multiple-Row Racks.

Racks greater than 12 ft (3.7 m) in depth or single- or double-row racks separated by aisles less than 3.5 ft(1.1 m) wide having an overall width greater than 12 ft (3.7 m) shall be protected as multiple-row racks.

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Public Comment No. 265-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 20.5.8.10 ]

20.5.8.10 Movable Racks.

Racks on fixed rails or guides that can be moved back and forth only in a horizontal, two-dimensional planeshall be protected as movable racks.

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Public Comment No. 266-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 20.5.8.11 ]

20.5.8.11 Portable Racks.

Racks that are not fixed in place and can be arranged in any number of configurations shall be protectedas portable racks.

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Public Comment No. 267-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 20.5.9 ]

20.5.9 Rubber Tires.

Paragraphs

20.5.9.1

through 20.5.9.7 cover the general terms of rubber tire storage that identify which type of protectioncriteria shall be used in Chapters 21 to 24.

20.5.9.1 Banded Tires.

When tires are strapped together, they shall be considered as banded.

20.5.9.2 Horizontal Channel.

Any uninterrupted space in excess of 5 ft (1.5 m) in length between horizontal layers of stored tires shall beconsidered as the horizontal channel.

20.5.9.3 Laced Tire Storage.

Tires stored where the sides of the tires overlap, creating a woven or laced appearance, shall beconsidered as laced tire storage. [See Figure A.3.9.4.9(g).]

20.5.9.4 On-Side Tire Storage.

Tires stored horizontally or flat shall be considered as on-side storage.

20.5.9.5 On-Tread Tire Storage.

Tires stored vertically or on their treads shall be considered as on-tread storage.

20.5.9.6 Palletized Tire Storage.

Storage on portable racks of various types utilizing a conventional pallet as a base shall be considered aspalletized storage.

20.5.9.7 Pyramid Tire Storage.

On-floor storage in which tires are formed into a pyramid to provide pile stability shall be considered aspyramid storage.

20.5.9.8 Water Supplies.

Total water supplies shall be capable of providing flow for automatic sprinklers, hose streams, and foamsystems (if provided) for the duration required in Table 20.12.2.6.

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Public Comment No. 268-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 20.5.10 ]

20.5.10 Roll Paper.

Paragraphs

20.5.

9.1 through 20.5.9.11 cover the general terms of roll paper that identify which type of protection criteria shallbe used in Chapters 21 through 24.

20.5. 10.1 Paper.

Storage of all kinds of felted sheets made from natural fibrous materials, usually vegetable but sometimesmineral or animal, and formed on a fine wire screen from water suspension, where stored in rolled formshall be protected as roll paper storage.

20.5.10.2 Closed Array (Paper).

Where a vertical storage arrangement in which the distances between columns in both directions are short[not more than 2 in. (50 mm) in one direction and 1 in. (25 mm) in the other], the storage array shall beconsidered as closed array.

20.5.10.3 Open Array (Paper).

Where a vertical storage arrangement in which the distance between columns in both directions is lengthy(all vertical arrays other than closed or standard), the storage array shall be considered as open array.

20.5.10.4 Standard Array (Paper).

Where a vertical storage arrangement in which the distance between columns in one direction is short [1in. (25 mm) or less] and is in excess of 2 in. (50 mm) in the other direction, the storage array shall beconsidered as standard array.

20.5.10.5 Banded Roll Paper Storage.

Where rolls are provided with a circumferential steel strap [ 3 ⁄ 8 in. (9.5 mm) or wider] at each end of theroll, the rolls shall be considered banded.

20.5.10.6 Column.

A single vertical stack of rolls shall be considered a column.

20.5.10.7 Core.

The central tube around which paper is wound to form a roll shall be considered as the core.

20.5.10.8 Horizontal Roll Paper Storage.

Rolls stored with the cores in the horizontal plane (on-side storage) shall be considered as horizontalstorage.

20.5.10.9 Vertical Roll Paper Storage.

Rolls stored with the cores in the vertical plane (on-end storage) shall be considered as vertical storage.

20.5.10.10 Wrapped Roll Paper Storage.

Rolls provided with a complete heavy kraft covering around both sides and ends shall be considered aswrapped storage.

20.5.10.11 Roll Paper Storage Height.

The maximum vertical distance above the floor at which roll paper is normally stored shall be consideredas the storage height.

20.5.10.12 Protection Criteria for Roll Paper Storage.

20.5.10. 13 2

Wet pipe systems shall be used in tissue storage areas.

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20.5.10. 13 2 .1

The water supply design shall include the demand of the automatic sprinkler system plus the hose streamallowance plus, where provided, the high-expansion foam system for the duration specified in Table20.12.2.6.

20.5.10. 14 3

Horizontal storage of heavyweight or mediumweight paper shall be protected as a closed array.

20.5.10. 15 4

Mediumweight paper shall be permitted to be protected as heavyweight paper where wrapped completelyon the sides and both ends, or where wrapped on the sides only with steel bands. Wrapping material shallbe either a single layer of heavyweight paper with a basis weight of 40 lb (18.1 kg) or two layers ofheavyweight paper with a basis weight of less than 40 lb (18.1 kg).

20.5.10. 16 5

Lightweight paper or tissue paper shall be permitted to be protected as mediumweight paper wherewrapped completely on the sides and both ends, or where wrapped on the sides only with steel bands.Wrapping material shall be either a single layer of heavyweight paper with a basis weight of 40 lb (18.1 kg)or two layers of heavyweight paper with a basis weight of less than 40 lb (18.1 kg).

20.5.10. 17 6

For purposes of sprinkler system design criteria, lightweight class paper shall be protected as tissue.

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Public Comment No. 269-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 20.5.11 ]

20.5.11 Plastic Motor Vehicle Components.

Group A plastic automotive components and associated packaging material consisting of exposed,expanded Group A plastic dunnage, instrument panels, and plastic bumper fascia shall be permitted to beprotected as defined in Chapter 23.

20.5.11.1

Automotive components covered in this section shall not include the storage of air bags, tires, and seats onportable racks. Paragraphs 20.5.11.1 through 20.5.11.3 cover the general terms of plastic motor vehiclecomponents that identify which protection criteria shall be used in Chapter 23.

20.5.11.2 Automotive Components on Portable Racks.

Instrument panels, windshields, metal and plastic gasoline tanks, heater housings, door panels, interiortrim, bumper fascia, wiring harnesses, sheet metal, body components, engines, driveline components,steering mechanisms, auxiliary motors, and lighting, all with or without expanded Group A plastic dunnage,shall be permitted to be protected as automotive components in Chapter 23.

20.5.11.3 Closed Array.

Where portable racks have vertical flues between the racks that are 6 in. (152 mm) or less, the storagearrangement shall be considered as closed array.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

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Public Comment No. 270-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 20.5.12 ]

20.5.12 Retail Display/Storage.

Paragraph 20.5.7.1 covers the general terms of retail display/storage that identify which type of protectioncriteria shall be used in Chapters 21 through 24.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

This paragraph has no bearing in this location. Paragraph 20.5.7.1 deals with movable rack only, and is currently addressed.

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Public Comment No. 271-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 20.5.13 ]

20.5.13 Baled Cotton Storage.

Paragraph 20.5.13.1 covers the general terms of baled cotton storage that identify which type ofprotection criteria shall be used in Chapter 21.

20.5.13.1 Tiered Storage.

An arrangement in which bales are stored directly on the floor, two or more bales high, shall be consideredas tiered storage.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Paragraph 20.5.13.1 is currently defined in Chapter 3. This definition belongs in Chapter 3. Chapter 21 defines the protection requirements.

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Public Comment No. 272-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 20.5.14 ]

20.5.14 Cartoned Record Storage.

Paragraphs

20.5.14.1

and 20.5.14.2 cover the general terms of cartoned record storage that identify which type of rack andshelving criteria shall be used in Chapters 21 through 24.

20.5.14.1 Cartoned Records Storage.

The protection criteria in Chapter 21 for cartoned records storage shall be based on a Class III commodityconsisting predominantly of paper records in cardboard cartons.

20.5.14.2 * Catwalk.

For the purposes of cartoned records storage, catwalks shall be considered a storage aid consisting ofeither open metal grating or solid horizontal barriers supported from a rack storage system that is utilizedas a walkway for access to storage at elevated levels.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

The Protection Criteria is provided in Chapter 21 and Definitions are currently located in Chapter 3.

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Public Comment No. 186-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 20.6.4.2 ]

20.6.4.2 3

Protection of Class I-IV commodities with excessive clearance from the top of storage to the ceilingsprinkler deflectors spray sprinklers using CMDA criteria that exceed the maximum allowable clearance inTable 20.6.4.2 shall be in accordance with Table 20.6.4.2 3 .

Table 20.6.4.2 Class 3 Class I Through Class IV Commodities

Storage ConfigurationWhere the

clearance toceiling exceeds

Protection is based upon thestorage height that would

result in a clearance to ceilingof…

In-rack Sprinklers*

Palletized, solid-piled, binbox, shelf, or back-to-backshelf storage

20 ft (6.1 m)20 ft (6.1 m) N/A

Rack storage up to andincluding 25 ft (7.6 m) inheight

20 ft (6.1 m)20 ft (6.1 m) Permitted as alternative

to presumed clearanceof 20 ft (6.1 m)

Rack storage over 25 ft (7.6m) in height

10 ft (3.1 m)10 ft (3.1 m) Permitted as alternative

to presumed clearanceof 10 ft (3.1 m)

*When applying the supplemental in-rack sprinkler option, the ceiling density is based upon the givenstorage height with an assumed acceptable clearance to ceiling. Provide one level of supplemental, quickresponse in-rack sprinklers located directly below the top tier of storage and at every flue spaceintersection.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

This eliminates the use of the word "excessive", which is not enforceable and clarifies that this rule only applies to CMDA approaches. The Tables for CMSA and ESFR sprinklers handle the maximum clearance situation in a much better manner and do not need to be addressed in this general section.

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Public Comment No. 190-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 20.6.4.3 ]

20.6.4.3 4

Protection of Plastic and Rubber commodities with excessive clearance from the top of storage to theceiling sprinkler deflectors using spray sprinklers with CMDA criteria having clearance exceeding theallowable limits of Table 20.6.4.2 shall be in accordance with Table 20.6.4.3 4 .

Table 20.6.4.3 Plastics 4 Plastics and Rubber Commodities

Storage ConfigurationWhere the

clearance toceiling exceeds

Protection is based upon thestorage height that would

result in a clearance to ceilingof…

In-rack Sprinklers*

Palletized, solid-piled, binbox, shelf, or back-to-backshelf storage

20 ft (6.1 m)20 ft (6.1 m) N/A

Rack storage up to andincluding 25 ft (7.6 m) inheight

10 ft (3.1 m)10 ft (3.1 m) Permitted as alternative

to presumed clearanceof 10 ft (3.1 m)

Rack storage over 25 ft (7.6m) in height

10 ft (3.1 m)N/A Required

*If in-rack sprinklers are required for the actual storage height with an acceptable clearance to ceiling,in-rack sprinklers are installed as indicated by that criteria. Provide one level of supplemental, quickresponse in-rack sprinklers located directly below the top tier of storage and at every flue spaceintersection.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

This eliminates the use of the word "excessive", which is not enforceable and clarifies that these maximum clearance rules only apply to spray sprinklers using CMDA criteria. The situation with CMSA and ESFR sprinklers is handled much better in the Tables in Chapters 22 and 23 and does not need to be addressed here. Also, this helps to clarify that it is the ceiling clearance being calculated here, not the sprinkler clearance. The difference can be about 22 inches depending on the type of construction of the ceiling, and we have gone to great lengths to tell people how to measure this in previous parts of this section.

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Public Comment No. 183-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 20.6.4.4 ]

20.6.4.4 2

For spray sprinkler CMDA criteria where the clearance to ceiling exceeds those identified in Table20.6.4.4 2 , the requirements of 20 Table 60 .6.4. 5 through 3 and Table 20.6.4. 10 shall 4 shall apply.

Table 20.6.4.4 Maximum 2 Maximum Clearance from Top of Storage to Ceiling for CMDA ProtectionCriteria

Commodity Class I to IV Group A Plastic

Palletized, Solid-Piled, Bin Box, Shelf, or Back-to-Back Shelf Storage 20 ft (6.1 m) 20 ft (6.1 m)

Rack Storage up to 25 ft (7.6 m) 20 ft (6.1 m) 10 ft (3.1 m)

Rack Storage > 25 ft (7.6 m) 10 ft (3.1 m) 10 ft (3.1 m)

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

This table should come first. It establishes the maximum clearance for each type of storage protected by spray sprinklers using CMDA criteria.

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Public Comment No. 182-NFPA 13-2017 [ Sections

20.6.4.5, 20.6.4.6, 20.6.4.7, 20.6.4.8, 20.6.4.9 ]

Sections 20.6.4.5, 20.6.4.6, 20.6.4.7, 20.6.4.8, 20.6.4.9

20.6.4.5

Where the clearance to ceiling exceeds 20 ft (6.1 m) for palletized, solid-piled, bin box, shelf, orback-to-back shelf storage, the protection shall be based on the storage height that would result in aclearance to ceiling of 20 ft (6.1 m).

20.6.4.6

Where the clearance to ceiling exceeds 20 ft (6.1 m) for rack storage of Class I through IV storage up toand including 25 ft (7.6 m) in height, the protection shall be based upon the storage height that would resultin a clearance to ceiling of 20 ft (6.1 m) or providing one level of supplemental, quick-response in-racksprinklers in accordance with Chapter 25 .

20.6.4.7

Where the clearance to ceiling exceeds 10 ft (3.0 m) for rack storage of Class I to IV above 25 ft (7.6 m) inheight or Group A plastic up to 25 ft (7.6 m) in height, protection shall be based upon the storage heightthat would result in a clearance to ceiling of 10 ft (3.0 m) or providing one level of supplemental, quick-response in-rack sprinklers in accordance with Chapter 25 .

20.6.4.8

Where the clearance exceeds 10 ft (3.0 m) for rack storage of Group A plastic above 25 ft (7.6 m) inheight,, protection shall be based on providing one level of supplemental, quick-response in-rack sprinklersin accordance with Chapter 25 .

20.6.4.9

When applying the supplemental in-rack sprinkler option, the ceiling density shall be based upon the givenstorage height with an assumed acceptable clearance to ceiling.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

All of this material is redundant with the tables earlier in 20.6.4.

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Public Comment No. 191-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 20.6.4.10 ]

20.6.4.10 5

If in-rack sprinklers are required for the actual storage height with an acceptable clearance to ceiling,in-rack sprinklers shall be installed as indicated by that criteria.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

This section is important and needs to stay. I intentionally did not include it in the proposal to remove many of the previous sections. While this renumbering would have probably happened without my submitting this comment, I wanted to be clear that I did not intend to omit this section.

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Public Comment No. 194-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 20.7.2 ]

20.7.2

The following unsprinklered combustible concealed spaces shall not require a minimum design area of

sprinkler operation of 3000 ft2 (280 m2):

(1) Noncombustible and limited-combustible concealed spaces with minimal combustible loading havingno access. The space shall be considered a concealed space even with small openings such as thoseused as return air for a plenum.

(2) Noncombustible and limited-combustible concealed spaces with limited access and not permittingoccupancy or storage of combustibles. The space shall be considered a concealed space even withsmall openings such as those used as return air for a plenum.

(3) Combustible concealed spaces filled entirely with noncombustible insulation.

(4) Concealed spaces where rigid materials are used and the exposed surfaces have a flame spreadindex of 25 or less and the materials have been demonstrated to not propagate fire more than 10.5 ft(3.2 m) when tested in accordance with ASTM E 84, Standard Test Method for Surface BurningCharacteristics of Building Materials, or ANSI/UL 723, Standard for Test for Surface BurningCharacteristics of Building Materials, extended for an additional 20 minutes in the form in which theyare installed in the space.

(5) Concealed spaces in which the exposed materials are constructed entirely of fire retardant–treatedwood as defined by NFPA 703.

(6) Concealed spaces over isolated small compartments not exceeding 55 ft2 (5.1 m2) in area.

(7) Vertical pipe chases under 10 ft2 (0.9 m2), provided that in multifloor buildings the chases arefirestopped at each floor using materials equivalent to the floor construction. Such pipe chases shallcontain no sources of ignition, piping shall be noncombustible, and pipe penetrations at each floor shallbe properly sealed.

(8) Exterior columns under 10 ft2 (0.9 m2) in area formed by studs or wood joists, supporting exteriorcanopies that are fully protected with a sprinkler system.

(9) Cavities within unsprinklered wall spaces.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

This needs to be consistent with Chapter 19, which accepted this chance at the First Draft. There are two other items that are in Chapter 19 that are not here, but I have not had time to compare them to see what else is missing.

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Public Comment No. 228-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 20.12.2.5 ]

20.12.2.5

When hose valves for fire department use are attached to wet pipe sprinkler system risers in accordancewith 16.15.2, the following shall apply:

(1) The water supply shall not be required to be added to standpipe demand as determined from NFPA 14.

(2) Where the combined sprinkler system demand and hose stream allowance of Chapter 12 andChapters 14 through 20 through 25 exceeds the requirements of NFPA 14, this higher demand shallbe used.

(3) For partially sprinklered buildings, the sprinkler demand, not including hose stream allowance, asindicated in Chapter 12 and Chapters 14 through 20 through 25 shall be added to the requirementsgiven in NFPA 14.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

In Section 20.12.2.5 the references are from the 2016 edition of the NFPA 13. These matters need to be revised to match the new chapter structure for the standard.

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Public Comment No. 229-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 20.15.1 [Excluding any

Sub-Sections] ]

Where fireproofing of building columns is not provided and storage heights are in excess of 15 ft (4.6 m),protection of building columns located wholly or partially within the rack footprint inclusive of flue spaces orwithin 12 in. (300 mm) of the footprint shall be protected in accordance with one of the following:

(1) In-rack sprinklers

(2) Sidewall sprinklers at the 15 ft (4.6 m) elevation, pointed toward one side of the steel column

(3) Provision of ceiling sprinkler density for a minimum of 2000 ft2 (186 m2) with ordinary 165°F (74°C) orhigh-temperature 286°F (140°C) rated sprinklers as shown in Table 20.15.1 for storage heights above15 ft (4.6 m), up to and including 20 ft (6.1 m)

(4) Provision of CMSA or ESFR ceiling sprinkler protection

Table 20.15.1 Ceiling Sprinkler Densities for Protection of Steel Building Columns

Commodity Classification

Aisle Width

4 ft (1.2 m) 8 ft (2.4 m)

gpm/ft2 (L/min)/m2 gpm/ft2 (L/min)/m2

Class I 0.37 15.1 0.33 13.4

Class II 0.44 17.9 0.37 15.1

Class III 0.49 20.0 0.42 17.1

Class IV and Group A plastics 0.68 27.7 0.57 23.2

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

In the First Draft Report, Section 20.15.1 only addresses Class I to IV commodities. Section 17.1.4 of the 2016 edition of NFPA 13, contains the provisions for column protection are provided of Group A plastics, which are the same as for Class IV. This Comment is to bring that information over into the new Chapter 20.

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Public Comment No. 146-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 20.16 ]

20.16 Alternative Protection Scheme A.

Class I, II, III, IV commodities requiring a greater level of protection than is available from the overheadsprinkler system shall be permitted to be protected in accordance with 20.16.1.1 through 20.16.1.7 .

20.16.1

Class I, II, III, IV, and Group A plastic commodities requiring a greater level of protection than is availablefrom the overhead sprinkler system shall be permitted to be protected in accordance with 20.16.1.1through 20.16.1.7 .

20.16.1.1

Where the storage rack will not be solely dedicated to the storage of commodities requiring a greater levelof protection than is available from the overhead sprinkler system, either of the following shall apply:

(1) Extend the protection prescribed by Section 20.16 horizontally one pallet load in all directionsbeyond the commodity storage area requiring the higher level of protection.

(2) Install a vertical barrier to segregate the commodities requiring the higher level of protection from anyadjacent commodities.

20.16.1.2

Commodities that can be protected by the ceiling-level sprinkler system shall be permitted to be storedvertically above and horizontally adjacent to the portions of the storage rack equipped as prescribed bySection 20.16 .

20.16.1.3 Horizontal Barriers.

Horizontal barriers shall be installed at every tier level of the dedicated storage rack where the rack isequipped with solid shelves.

20.16.1.3.1

Where the dedicated storage rack is open-frame, horizontal barriers shall be installed at vertical incrementsnot exceeding 12 ft (3.6 m).

20.16.1.3.2

The barriers shall span horizontally so that all flue spaces within the rack bay are covered.

20.16.1.3.3

A maximum 3 in. (75 mm) wide gap shall be permitted at rack uprights.

20.16.1.3.4

The solid barrier shall be installed on a horizontal plane within a rack, beneath which in-rack sprinklersshall be installed, as follows:

(1) The barrier shall be constructed of minimum 22 gauge (0.7 mm) sheet metal or of minimum 3 ⁄ 8 in.(10 mm) plywood.

(2) The barrier shall extend to both aisle faces of the racks, covering up both the longitudinal and thetransverse flue spaces of the rack bays in which they are installed.

(3) The barrier shall be fitted to within 3 in. (75 mm) of any vertical rack member or other equipment thatwould create an opening, such as vertical in-rack sprinkler pipe drops.

20.16.1.4 In-Rack Sprinklers.

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Minimum K-8.0 (K-115) quick-response sprinklers (ceiling-level or in-rack) shall be installed beneath eachhorizontal barrier. The deflector of the sprinkler shall be located as close to the underside of the horizontalbarrier as possible.

20.16.1.4.1 Single-Row Racks.

(A)

For single-row racks, sprinklers shall be installed at each rack upright and at each rack mid-bay as shownin Figure 20.16.1.4.1(A) .

Figure 20.16.1.4.1(A) Alternative Protection for Single-Row Racks.

(B)

The maximum linear spacing between sprinklers shall not exceed 5 ft (1.5 m).

20.16.1.4.2 Double-Row Racks.

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(A)

For double-row racks, sprinklers shall be installed at each rack upright within the longitudinal flue spaceand at the face of the rack and at the mid-bay face of each rack bay as shown in Figure 20.16.1.4.2(A) .

Figure 20.16.1.4.2(A) Alternative Protection for Double-Row Racks.

(B)

The maximum linear spacing between sprinklers shall not exceed 5 ft (1.5 m) at the rack face and 10 ft(3.0 m) within the longitudinal flue space.

20.16.1.4.3 Multiple-Row Racks.

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(A)

For multiple-row racks, an alternating sprinkler arrangement shall be installed within adjacent transverseflue spaces as shown in Figure 20.16.1.4.3(A) , with sprinklers at the face of each flue space.

Figure 20.16.1.4.3(A) Alternative Protection for Multiple-Row Racks.

(B)

The maximum linear spacing between sprinklers at the face and at each alternating bay shall not exceed 5ft (1.5 m) and shall not exceed 10 ft (3.0 m) between sprinklers at every other bay.

20.16.1.5

The design of an in-rack sprinkler system shall be based on a minimum flow of 60 gpm (230 L/min) fromthe most remote six sprinklers for single-row racks or the most remote eight sprinklers for both double-rowand multiple-row racks.

20.16.1.6

The in-rack sprinkler demand shall not be required to be hydraulically balanced with the ceiling-levelsprinkler system.

20.16.1.7 Ceiling Sprinkler System.

The ceiling-level sprinkler system shall be designed based on the highest commodity hazard not protectedby the criteria prescribed by 20.16 .

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Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

The existing Alternative Protection In-rack Sprinkler option is repeated in Section 20.16 and Section 25.8 in the First Draft. I suggest deleting Section 20.16 and consolidating all of the Alternative Protection In-rack Sprinkler options to 25.8 to make NFPA 13 easier to use.

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Submitter Information Verification

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Public Comment No. 145-NFPA 13-2017 [ New Section after 20.16.1.7 ]

20.17 Alternative Protection Scheme B

The protection of Group A plastic commodities requiring a greater level of protection than is available fromthe overhead sprinkler system shall be permitted to be protected in accordance with 20.17.1.2.10.1through 20.17.1.2.10.7.

20.17.1.2.10.1 Where the storage rack will not be solely dedicated to the storage of commodities requiringa greater level of protection than is available from the overhead sprinkler system, either of the following shall apply:

(1) Extend the protection prescribed by 20. 17.1.2.10 horizontally one pallet load in all directions beyondthe commodity storage area requiring the higher level of protection.

(2) Install a vertical barrier to segregate the commodities requiring the higher level of protection fromany adjacent commodities.

20.17.1.2.10.2 Commodities that can be protected by the ceiling level sprinkler system shall be permittedto be stored vertically above and horizontally adjacent to the portions of the storage rack equippedas prescribed by 20. 17.1.2.10.

20.17.1.2.10.3 Horizontal Barriers. Horizontal barriers shall be installed at every tier level of thededicated storage rack where the rack is equipped with solid shelves.

20.17.1.2.10.3.1 Where dedicated storage of cartoned Group A plastic commodity is in open-frameracks, horizontal barriers shall be installed at vertical increments not exceeding 30 ft (9.1 m).

20. 17.1.2.10.3.2 Where dedicated storage of exposed Group A plastic commodity is in open-frameracks, horizontal barriers shall be installed at vertical increments not exceeding 20 ft (6.1 m).

20. 17.1.2.10.3.3 The barriers shall span horizontally so that all flue spaces within the rack bay arecovered.

20. 17.1.2.10.3.4 A maximum 3 in. (75 mm) wide gap shall be permitted at rack uprights.

20. 17.1.2.10.3.5 The solid barrier shall be installed on a horizontal plane within a rack, beneathwhich in-rack sprinklers shall be installed, as follows:

(A) The barrier shall be constructed of minimum 22 gauge (0.7 mm) sheet metal or of minimum 3 ⁄ 8in. (10 mm) plywood.

(B) The barrier shall extend to both ends and both aisle faces of the racks covering up boththe longitudinal and transverse flue spaces of the rack bays in which they are installed.

(C) The barrier shall be fitted to within 3 in. (75 mm) of any vertical rack member or other equipmentthat would create an opening, such as vertical in-rack sprinkler pipe drops.

20. 17.1.2.10.4 In-Rack Sprinklers. Intermediate temperature extended coverage CMDA pendentstorage sprinklers with a nominal K-factor of K-25.2 (360) shall be installed beneath each horizontalbarrier. The deflector of the sprinkler shall be located as close to the underside of the horizontal barrier aspossible.

17.1.2.10.4.1 Single-Row Racks.

(A) For single-row racks, sprinklers shall be installed at each rack mid-bay as shown inFigure 20. 17.1.2.10.4.1(A) for cartoned Group A plastic commodity and Figure 20. 17.1.2.10.4.1(B)for exposed Group A plastic commodity.

(B) The maximum linear spacing between sprinklers shall not exceed 10 ft (3.1 m).

17.1.2.10.4.2 Double-Row Racks .

(A) For double-row racks, sprinklers shall be installed within the longitudinal flue space at each rackmidbay as shown in Figure 20. 17.1.2.10.4.2(A) for cartoned Group A plastic commodity andFigure 20. 17.1.2.10.4.2(B) for exposed Group A plastic commodity.

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(B) The maximum linear spacing between sprinklers shall not exceed 10 ft (3.1 m).

17.1.2.10.4.3 Multiple-Row Racks.

(A) For multiple-row racks with an overall depth between aisles not exceeding 15 ft 6 in. (4.7 m),an alternating sprinkler arrangement shall be installed within adjacent transverse flue spaces asshown in Figure 20. 17.1.2.10.4.3(A) for cartoned Group A plastic commodity andFigure 20. 17.1.2.10.4.3(B) for exposed Group A plastic commodity.

(B) The maximum linear spacing between sprinklers at the face shall not exceed 10 ft (3.1 m) andshall not exceed 10 ft (3.1 m) between sprinklers at every other bay.

20. 17.1.2.10.5 The design of an in-rack sprinkler system shall be based on a minimum flow of 138 gpm(520 L/min) from the most remote five sprinklers for single-row and double-row racks or the most remotenine sprinklers (three at each face and three in-between) for multiple-row racks.

20. 17.1.2.10.6 The in-rack sprinkler demand shall not be required to be hydraulically balanced withthe ceiling-level sprinkler system.

20. 17.1.2.10.7 Ceiling Sprinkler System. The ceiling-level sprinkler system shall be designed based onthe highest commodity hazard not protected by the criteria prescribed by 20. 17.1.2.10.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

As proposed in CI-931 based on PI-453. This section should have been an FR based on balloting.

The proposed section adds criteria for extended coverage K-25.2 pendent in-rack sprinklers. The proposed criteria is based on a series of full-scale fire tests conducted at UL. The proposed section mirrors the existing Alternative Protection criteria for consistency.

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CI-931

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Organization: National Fire Sprinkler Association

Affilliation: NFSA Engineering and Standards Committee

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Public Comment No. 209-NFPA 13-2017 [ New Section after 20.16.1.7 ]

20.17 Protection of Car Stackers and Car Lift Systems.

20.17.1 Car stackers and car lift systems with cars stacked 2 vertically shall be protected as an extrahazard group 2 occupancy. Reduction in overhead area of application shall be allowed in accordance with20.17.3

20.17.2 Car stackers and car lift systems with cars stacked more than 2 vertically shall be protected asfollows:

1. An automatic overhead wet-pipe sprinkler system designed to Extra Hazard Group 1. Reductionin the overhead area of application shall be allowed in accordance with 20.17.3; and

2. Standard coverage sidewall sprinklers listed for ordinary hazard shall be provided under eachparking level, including the bottom level if the car stacker or car lift system is provided with a pit. Each sidewall sprinkler shall cover an area not to exceed 80 square feet; and

3. Flow from all sprinklers in the area of application including those at the ceiling and those beloweach level of the car stacker shall be included in the hydraulic calculation.

20.17.3 The area of application of the overhead system may be reduced from the required 2500 sq. ft. butnot less than 1500 square feet if

(1) 1-hour fire rated walls are provided to separate the car stacker areas from the standard parking stalls,and

(2) The car stacker areas are divided up into areas by 1-hour fire rated walls, and

(3) One-hour fire rated walls are provided to separate the car stacker areas from any other areas in thegarage, though no separation is required from the drive aisles.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Currently, NFPA 13 does not address how to handle cars in car stacker and car lift systems when they are stacked more than two vertically. The proposed added language addresses this gap.

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PI-218

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Submitter Full Name: Sagiv Weiss-Ishai

Organization: San Francisco Fire Department

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Public Comment No. 195-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 21.3.4 ]

21.3.4

The ceiling-only protection criteria specified in Chapter 17 for Chapter 21 for rack storage of Group Aplastic commodities shall be permitted to be used for solid-piled and palletized storage of the samecommodity at the same height and clearance to ceiling.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Corrected Chapter reference.

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Organization: University of Maryland

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Public Comment No. 197-NFPA 13-2017 [ Sections 21.3.5, 21.3.6, 21.3.7 ]

Sections 21.3.5, 21.3.6, 21.3.7

21.3.5 3.1 *

For Table 21.3.3(a) and Table 21.3.3(b), the design areas shall be as follows:

(1) The area shall be a minimum of 2500 ft2 (232 m2).

(2) Where Table 21.3.3(a) and Table 21.3.3(b) allow densities and areas to be selected in accordance withCurve EH1 and Curve EH2 of Figure 13.2.1, any density/area from the curves in Figure 13.2.1 shall bepermitted. When selecting a point from the EH1 or EH2 density/area curves of Figure 13.2.1, thefollowing area reductions shall be permitted:

(3) For K-8.0 (115) sprinklers used with Curve EH1, the design area shall be permitted to be reduced

by 25 percent, but not below 2000 ft 2 (186 m 2 ), where high temperature sprinklers are used.

(4) For K-11.2 (160) or larger sprinklers, the design area shall be permitted to be reduced by

25 percent, but not below 2000 ft 2 (186 m 2 ), regardless of temperature rating.

(5) For closed arrays, the area shall be permitted to be reduced to 2000 ft2 (186 m2).

21.3.6 3.2 *

Interpolation of densities between storage heights shall be permitted.

21.3. 6.1

Densities shall be based on the 2500 ft 2 (232 m 2 ) design area.

21.3.6.2 3.3

Interpolation of ceiling/roof heights shall not be permitted.

21.3.7 5

For storage of Group A plastics between 5 ft (1.5 m) and 12 ft (3.7 m) in height, the installationrequirements for extra hazard systems shall apply.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Some of the information is redundant and can be eliminated. The rest of the information in 21.3.5 and 21.3.6 specifically applies to 21.3.3 and should be subsections to that sections, rather than after that section. Finally, section 21.3.7 needs to be renumbered to 21.3.5 since there is already a section 21.3.4.

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Organization: University of Maryland

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Public Comment No. 219-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 21.5.4.4 ]

21.5.4.4

The minimum water supply requirements for a hydraulically designed occupancy hazard fire controlsprinkler system shall be determined by adding the hose stream allowance from Table 21.5.4.4 to thewater supply for sprinklers determined in Section 17.3.

Table 21.5.4.4 Hose Stream Allowance and Water Supply Duration Requirements for Rack Storage ofGroup A Plastic Commodities Stored Over 25 ft (7.6 m) in Height

Commodity Classification Storage Height Inside Hose Total Combined Inside and Outside Hose Duration(minutes) ft m gpm L/min gpm L/min Plastic >25 >7.6 0, 50, or 100 0, 190, or 380 500 1900 120

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Section 21.5.4.4 and Table 21.5.4.4 are redundant. They deal with hose stream and water supply issues that are addressed in Section 20.12.2.6 and Table 20.12.2.6. Therefore, this redundat information should be deleted.

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Public Comment No. 221-NFPA 13-2017 [ New Section after 21.6.1 ]

21.6.2

Reduced-Discharge Density. Where high-expansion foam systems are installed in accordance withNFPA 11, a reduction in sprinkler discharge density to one-half the density specified in Table 21.6.1(a) or0.24 gpm/ft2 (9.8 mm/min), whichever is higher, shall be permitted.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Section 21.8.1.3 about reduced density with the use of Hi-X foam should be moved to 21.6.2 to go with the applicable subject of tire storage.

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FR-900

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Public Comment No. 126-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 21.6.1 ]

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21.6.1 Ceiling Systems.

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Protection of rubber tire storage shall be selected from Table 21.6.1(a) or Table 21.6.1(b).

Table 21.6.1(a) Protection Criteria for Rubber Tire Storage Using Control Mode Density/Area Sprinklers

Piling Method

Pile Height

[ft (m)]

Sprinkler DischargeDensity

[gpm/ft2 over ft2

( mm/min over m2)]

(see Note 1)

Areas of Application

[ft2(m2)]

(see Note 1)

OrdinaryTemperature

High

Temperature

(see Note 1)

(1) On-floor storage Up to 5 (1.5) 0.19 (0 7 .72 7 ) 2000 (186) 2000 (186)

(a) Pyramid piles,on-side

Over 5 (1.5) to 12(3.7)

0.30 (1 12 .1 2 ) 2500 (232) 2500 (232)

(b) Other arrangementssuch that no horizontalchannels are formed(see Note 2)

Over 12 (3.7) to18 (5.5)

0.60 (2 24 .3 4 ) Not allowed 2500 (232)

(2) On-floor storage Up to 5 (1.5) 0.19 (0 7 .72 7 ) 2000 (186) 2000 (186)

Tires, on-treadOver 5 (1.5) to 12(3.7)

0.30 (1 12 .1 2 ) 2500 (232) 2500 (232)

(3) Palletized portablerack storage

Up to 5 (1.5) 0.19 (0 7 .72 7 ) 2000 (186) 2000 (186)

On-side or on-tread

Over 5 (1.5) to 20(6.1)

See Table 18.4(b) — —

Over 20 (6.1) to30 (9.1)

0.30 (1 12 .1 2 ) plushigh-expansion foam

3000 (280) 3000 (280)

(4) Palletized portablerack storage, on-side

Up to 5 (1.5) 0.19 (0 7 .72 7 ) 2000 (186) 2000 (186)

Over 5 (1.5) to 20(6.1)

See Table 18.4(b) — —

Over 20 (6.1) to25 (7.6)

0.60 (2 24 .2 4 ) and Not allowed 5000 (465)

0.90 (3 36 .4 7 ) (seeNote 3) or

Not allowed 3000 (280)

0.75 (2 30 .8 6 ) with1-hour fire-resistiverating of roof andceiling assembly

Not allowed 4000 (370)

(5) Open portable rackstorage, on-side oron-tread

Up to 5 (1.5) 0.19 (0 7 .72 7 ) 2000 (186) 2000 (186)

Over 5 (1.5) to 12(3.7)

0.60 (2 24 .2 4 ) 5000 (465) 3000 (280)

Over 12 (3.7) to20 (6.1)

0.60 (2 24 .2 4 ) and Not allowed 5000 (465)

0.90 (3 36 .4 7 ) (seeNote 3) or

Not allowed 3000 (280)

0.30 (1 12 .1 2 ) plushigh-expansion foam

3000 (280) 3000 (280)

(6) Open portable rackstorage, laced

Over 12 (3.7) to20 (6.1)

0.60 (2 24 .2) and Not allowed 5000 (465)

0.90 (3 36 .4 7 ) (seeNotes 3 and 5)

Not allowed 3000 (280)

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Piling Method

Pile Height

[ft (m)]

Sprinkler DischargeDensity

[gpm/ft2 over ft2

( mm/min over m2)]

(see Note 1)

Areas of Application

[ft2(m2)]

(see Note 1)

OrdinaryTemperature

High

Temperature

(see Note 1)

(7) Single-, double-, andmultiple-row fixed rackstorage on pallets,on-side, or on-treadwithout shelves

Up to 5 (1.5) 0.19 (0 7 .72 7 ) 2000 (186) 2000 (186)

Over 5 (1.5) to 20(6.1)

See Table 18.4(b) or0.40 (1 16 .5 3 ) plusone level in-racksprinklers or

3000 (280) 3000 (280)

0.30 (1 12 .1 2 ) plushigh-expansion foam

3000 (280) 3000 (280)

Over 20 (6.1) to 30 (9.1)

0.30 (1 12 .1 2 )plushigh-expansionfoam

Not allowed 3000 (280)

(8) Single-, double-, andmultiple-row fixed rackstorage without pallets orshelves, on-side oron-tread

Up to 5 (1.5) 0.19 (0 7 .72 7 ) 2000 (186) 2000 (186)

Over 5 (1.5) to 12(3.7)

0.60 (2 24 .2 4 ) 5000 (465) 3000 (280)

0.40 (1 16 .5 3 )plus one levelin-rack sprinklers

3000 (280)3000(280)

Over 12 (3.7) to20 (6.1)

0.60 (2 24 .2 4 ) and Not allowed 5000 (465)

0.90 (3 36 .4 7 ) (seeNote 3) or

Not allowed 3000 (280)

0.40 (1 16 .5 3 ) plusone level in-racksprinklers or

3000 (280) 3000 (280)

0.30 (1 12 .1 2 ) plushigh-expansion foam

3000 (280) 3000 (280)

Over 20 (6.1) to 30 (9.1)

0.30 (1 12 .1 2 )plushigh-expansionfoam

Not allowed 3000 (280)

Notes:

(1) Sprinkler discharge densities and areas of application are based on a maximum clearance to ceiling of10 ft (3.0 m) with the maximum height of storage anticipated.

(2) Laced tires on-floor, vertical stacking on-side (typical truck tires), and off-road tires. Laced tires are notstored to a significant height by this method due to the damage inflicted on the tire (i.e., bead).

(3) Water supply shall fulfill both requirements.

(4) Shelf storage of rubber tires shall be protected as solid rack shelving.

(5) This protection scheme is for use with K-16.8 (240) or larger control mode sprinklers only. Maximum

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clearance to ceiling can be increased to 14 ft (4.3 m) with this scheme.

Table 21.6.1(b) Control Mode Density/Area Sprinklers System Density (gpm/ft2 over ft2) for PalletizedPortable Rack Storage and Fixed Rack Storage of Rubber Tires with Pallets Over 5 ft (1.5 m) to 20 ft(3.7 m) in Height

Storage Height

[ft (m)]

Sprinkler Temperature

High Temperature Ordinary Temperature

>5 to 10 (1.5 to 3.0) 0.32/2000 (8. 1.2 /186) 0.32/2000 (8. 1.2 /186)

>10 to 12 (3.0 to 3.7) 0.39/2000 (1 15 .5 9 /186) 0.39/2600 (1 15 .5 9 /241)

>12 to 14 (3.7 to 4.3) 0.45/2000 (1 18 .7 3 /186) 0.45/3200 (1 18 .7 3 /300)

>14 to 16 (4.3 to 4.9) 0.5/2300 (1 20 .9 4 /214) 0.5/3700 (1 20 .9 4 /345)

>16 to 18 (4.9 to 5.5) 0.55/2600 (2 22 .1 4 /241) 0.55/4400 (2 22 .1 4 /410)

>18 to 20 (5.5 to 6.1) 0.6/3000 (2 24 .3 4 /280) 0.6/5000 (2 24 .3/465)

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Editorial revision to correct metric density values.

Related Item

CI-810

Submitter Information Verification

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Organization: S Netanel Engineers and Consultants

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

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Public Comment No. 220-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 21.8.1.2 ]

21.8.1.2

A wet pipe system that is designed to provide a minimum of 0.6 gpm/ft2 (24.4 mm/min) density over a

minimum area of 2000 ft2 (186 m2) shall be permitted to protect single-row and double-row racks withslatted rack shelving where all of the following conditions are met:

(1) Sprinklers shall be K-11.2 (160), K-14.0 (200), or K-16.8 (240) orifice spray sprinklers with atemperature rating of ordinary, intermediate, or high and shall be listed for storage occupancies.

(2) The protected commodities shall be limited to Class I through Class IV, Group B plastics, Group Cplastics, cartoned (expanded and nonexpanded) Group A plastics, and exposed (nonexpanded) GroupA plastics.

(3) Slats in slatted rack shelving shall be a minimum nominal 2 in. (50 mm) thick by maximum nominal6 in. (150 mm) wide, with the slats held in place by spacers that maintain a minimum 2 in. (50 mm)opening between each slat.

(4) Where K-11.2 (160), K-14.0 (200), or K-16.8 (240) orifice sprinklers are used, there shall be no slattedshelf levels in the rack above 12 ft (3.7 m). Open rack shelving using wire mesh shall be permitted forshelf levels above 12 ft (3.7 m).

(5) Transverse flue spaces at least 3 in. (75 mm) wide shall be provided at least every 10 ft (3.0 m)horizontally.

(6) Longitudinal flue spaces at least 6 in. (152 mm) wide shall be provided for double-row racks.

(7) The aisle widths shall be at least 71⁄2 ft (2.3 m).

(8) The maximum roof height shall be 27 ft (8.2 m).

(9) The maximum storage height shall be 20 ft (6.1 m).

(10) Solid plywood or similar materials shall not be placed on the slatted shelves so that they block the 2 in.(50 mm) spaces between slats, nor shall they be placed on wire mesh shelves.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

For slatted shelves in Section 21.8.1.2 the requirement for 6" longitudinal flues was deleted without and substantiation. Without any technical justification for the deletion, this requirement must be re-inserted.

Related Item

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Street Address:

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Public Comment No. 222-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 21.8.1.3 ]

21.8.1.3 Reduced-Discharge Density.

Where high-expansion foam systems are installed in accordance with NFPA 11, a reduction in sprinkler

discharge density to one-half the density specified in Table 21.6.1(a) or 0.24 gpm/ft 2 (9.8 mm/min),whichever is higher, shall be permitted.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Section 21.8.1.3 about reduced density with the use of Hi-X foam should be moved to 21.6.2 to go with the applicable subject of tire storage.

Related Item

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Street Address:

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Zip:

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Public Comment No. 223-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 21.11.6.2.1 ]

21.11.6.2.1

Ceiling sprinklers spaced to cover a maximum of 100 ft2 (9.3 m2) shall be standard-response spraysprinklers with K-factors per Section 12 Section 21 .6 1 .

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

In Section 21.11.6.2.1 the reference to Section 20.6 is from the 2016 edition of the NFPA 13. This matter needs to be revised to match the new chapter structure for the standard.

Related Item

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Organization: PLC Fire Safety Solutions

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

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Public Comment No. 225-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 23.1.2.3 ]

23.1.2.3 Temperature Ratings.

Sprinkler temperature ratings for ESFR sprinklers shall be ordinary unless 8 9 .3 4 .2 requires intermediate-or high-temperature ratings.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

In Section 23.1.2.3 the references are from the 2016 edition of the NFPA 13. These matters need to be revised to match the new chapter structure for the standard.

Related Item

FR-902

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Street Address:

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Public Comment No. 226-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 23.1.4 ]

23.1.4

The ceiling design criteria for single-, double-, and multiple-row racks in Chapter 23 shall be based on openrack configurations as defined in 3.9. 3.7 139 .4.

23.1.4.1

ESFR sprinklers shall not be permitted to protect storage on solid shelf racks unless the solid shelf racksare protected with in-rack sprinklers in accordance with Chapter 25.

23.1.4. 2

ESFR sprinklers shall not be permitted to protect storage on solid shelf racks unless the solid shelf racksare protected with in-rack sprinklers in accordance with 16.

1.

6.

23. 1 .4.2.1

Where solid shelves are used, in-rack sprinklers shall be installed in every level below the highest solidshelf.

23.1.4.3 2

ESFR sprinklers shall not be permitted to protect storage with open top containers.

23.1.4.4 3

ESFR sprinkler systems shall be designed such that the minimum operating pressure is not less than thatindicated in Table 23.5.1 for type of storage, commodity, storage height, and building height involved.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Revised to update the reference to the definition for open racks and to delete a duplicate line.

Related Item

FR-902

Submitter Information Verification

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Street Address:

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Zip:

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Public Comment No. 25-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 23.3.1 ]

23.3.1

Protection of palletized and solid-piled storage of Class I through Class IV commodities shall be inaccordance with Table 23.3.1.

Table 23.3.1 ESFR Protection of Palletized and Solid-Piled Storage of Class I Through Class IVCommodities

Commodity

MaximumStorageHeight

MaximumCeiling/Roof

HeightNominalK-Factor

Orientation

MinimumOperatingPressure

ft m ft m psi bar

Class I, II, III, or IV,encapsulated andnonencapsulated (noopen-top containers)

20 6.1 25 7.6

14.0 (200)Upright/pendent

50 3.4

16.8 (240)Upright/pendent

35 2.4

22.4 (320) Pendent 25 1.7

25.2 (360) Pendent 15 1.0

25 7.6

30 9.1

14.0 (200)Upright/pendent

50 3.4

16.8 (240)Upright/pendent

35 2.4

22.4 (320) Pendent 25 1.7

25.2 (360) Pendent 15 1.0

32 1014.0 (200)

Upright/pendent

60 4.1

16.8 (240) Upright/pendent 42 2.9

30 9.1 35 11

14.0 (200)Upright/pendent

75 5.2

16.8 (240)Upright/pendent

52 3.6

22.4 (320) Pendent 35 2.4

25.2 (360) Pendent 20 1.4

35 11 40 12

16.8 (240) Pendent 52 3.6

22.4 (320) Pendent 40 2.7

25.2 (360) Pendent 25 1.7

35 11 45 1422.4 (320) Pendent 40 2.7

25.2 (360) Pendent 40 2.7

40 12 45 1422.4 (320) Pendent 40 2.7

25.2 (360) Pendent 40 2.7

Additional Proposed Changes

File Name Description Approved

.1491243140559 K28 approval

EX5085-20150407-CertificateofCompliance.pdf

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Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Please add k28 sprinkler on table 23.3.1 and wherever applicable

Related Item

Table 23.3.1

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Public Comment No. 24-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 23.4.2 ]

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Protection of palletized and solid-piled storage of cartoned or exposed nonexpanded plastic and cartonedexpanded or exposed expanded plastic shall be in accordance with Table 23.4.2.

Table 23.4.2 ESFR Protection of Palletized and Solid-Piled Storage of Group A Plastic Commodities

StorageArrangement Commodity

MaximumStorage Height

MaximumCeiling/Roof

HeightNominalK-Factor Orientation

MinimumOperatingPressure

ft m ft m psi bar

Palletized andsolid-piledstorage (noopen-topcontainers)

Cartonednonexpanded

plastic20 6.1

25 7.6

14.0

(200)

Upright/

pendent

50 3.4

16.8

(240)

Uprigh

pende

22.4

(320)

25.2

(360)

30 9.1

14.0

(200)

16.8

(240)

22.4

(320)

25.2

(360)

3511 10.7

14.0

(200)

16.8

(240)

22.4

(320)

25.2

(360)

40 12 .2

16.8

(240)

22.4

(320)

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StorageArrangement Commodity

MaximumStorage Height

MaximumCeiling/Roof

HeightNominalK-Factor Orientation

MinimumOperatingPressure

ft m ft m psi bar

25.2

(360)

4514 13.7

22.4

(320)

25.2

(360)

25 7.6

30 9.1

14.0

(200)

Upright/

pendent

50

16.8

(240)

Upright/

pendent

35

22.4

(320)

Pendent 25

25.2

(360)

Pendent 15

3210 9.7

14.0

(200)

Upright/

pendent

60

16.8

(240)

Upright/

pendent

42

3511 10.7

14.0

(200)

Uprightorpendent

75

16.8

(240)

Upright/

pendent

52

22.4

(320)

Pendent 35

25.2

(360)

Pendent 20

40 12 .2

16.8

(240)

Pendent 52

22.4

(320)

Pendent 40

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StorageArrangement Commodity

MaximumStorage Height

MaximumCeiling/Roof

HeightNominalK-Factor Orientation

MinimumOperatingPressure

ft m ft m psi bar

25.2

(360)

Pendent 25

4514 13.7

22.4

(320)

Pendent 40

25.2

(360)

Pendent 40

30 9.1

3511 10.7

14.0

(200)

Upright/

pendent

75

16.8

(240)

Upright/

pendent

52

22.4

(320)

Pendent 35

25.2

(360)

Pendent 20

40 12 .2

16.8

(240)

Pendent 52

22.4

(320)

Pendent 40

25.2

(360)

Pendent 25

4514 13.7

22.4

(320)

Pendent 40

25.2

(360)

Pendent 40

35 10.7 40 12 .2

16.8

(240)

Pendent 52

22.4

(320)

Pendent 40

25.2

(360)

Pendent 25

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StorageArrangement Commodity

MaximumStorage Height

MaximumCeiling/Roof

HeightNominalK-Factor Orientation

MinimumOperatingPressure

ft m ft m psi bar

4514 13.7

22.4

(320)

Pendent 40

25.2

(360)

Pendent 40

40 12.2 4514 13.7

22.4

(320)

Pendent 40

25.2

(360)

Pendent 40

Exposednonexpanded

plastic20 6.1

25 7.6

14.0

(200)

Pendent 50 3.4

16.8

(240)

Pendent 35 2.4

30 9.1

14.0

(200)

Pendent 50 3.4

16.8

(240)

Pendent 35 2.4

3511 10.7

14.0

(200)

Pendent 75 5.2

16.8

(240)

Pendent 52 3.6

40 12 .2

16.8

(240)

Pendent 52 3.6

25 7.6

30 9.1

14.0

(200)

Pendent 50

16.8

(240)

Pendent 35

32 9.7

14.0

(200)

Pendent 60

16.8

(240)

Pendent 42

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StorageArrangement Commodity

MaximumStorage Height

MaximumCeiling/Roof

HeightNominalK-Factor Orientation

MinimumOperatingPressure

ft m ft m psi bar

3511 10.7

14.0

(200)

Pendent 75

16.8

(240)

Pendent 52

40 12 .2

16.8

(240)

Pendent 52

22.4

(320)

Pendent 50

25.2

(360)

Pendent 50

30 9.1

3511 10.7

14.0

(200)

Pendent 75

16.8

(240)

Pendent 52

40 12 .2

16.8

(240)

Pendent 52

22.4

(320)

Pendent 50

25.2

(360)

Pendent 50

35 11 40 12 .2

16.8

(240)

Pendent 52

22.4

(320)

Pendent 50

25.2

(360)

Pendent 50

Cartonedexpanded

plastic20 6.1 25 7.6

14.0

(200)

Upright/

pendent

50 3.4

16.8

(240)

Upright/

pendent

35 2.4

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StorageArrangement Commodity

MaximumStorage Height

MaximumCeiling/Roof

HeightNominalK-Factor Orientation

MinimumOperatingPressure

ft m ft m psi bar

30 9.1

14.0

(200)

Upright/

pendent

50 3.4

16.8

(240)

Upright/

pendent

35 2.4

25 7.6

30 9.1

14.0

(200)

Upright/

pendent

50 3.4

16.8

(240)

Upright/

pendent

35 2.4

3210 9.7

14.0

(200)

Pendent 60 4.1

16.8

(240)

Upright/

pendent

42 2.9

Exposed*expanded

plastic25 7.6 40 12 .2

25.2

(360)

Pendent 60 4.1

*Applies to closed array storage only.

Additional Proposed Changes

File Name Description Approved

metric_conversion.doc wrong metric conversion

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

I kindly recommend the Technical Committee to back review to 2010 Edition all Imperial to Metric conversion. Most of new rounded numbers are very different from reality and are causing huge troubles for non-US application of NFPA13, mostly because changes are not uniform for all tables + diagrams. If you want to round all numbers as new standard values (i.e. 45ft = 14m instead of 13.7m) do it, but everywhere, not only for some tables. One foot rounding more or less will affect a lot in warehouses costs. Thanks so much to pay attention

Related Item

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Since you introduced Metric converted tables and diagrams, many troubles have been caused in Europe for 

NFPA application. Building height discrepancy +/‐ 300mm due to wrong conversion from Imperial sizes, may 

affect billions dollars. More, you applied new wrong/rounded Imperial‐to‐Metric conversions not for all 

diagrams, but only for some of them, increasing the confusion. Therefore I kindly ask you to apply the old 

and right conversions till 2010 edition to cancel any misunderstanding. To resume, most of significant: 

10.7m = 35ft NO 11m 

12.2m = 40ft NO 12m 

13.7m = 45ft NO 14m‐ 0.3m = 1ft. A warehouse may be 1ft taller it means a huge volume of goods, but 

that’s wrong   

All above is for every table and diagram where you introduced new “wider” rounding in metric conversion. 

It means a huge change in design approach for storages, but if you want to do that, you have to do it 

homogeneous everywhere, not spotted as 2013 + 2016 editions 

 

     

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Public Comment No. 319-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 23.7.4.1 ]

23.7.4.1

The maximum sprinkler deflector distance below the ceiling shall be 14 18 in. (350 mm).

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

While it is acknowledge that the testing was conducted with a 14 in. deflctor distance, the K-25.2 ESFR sprinklers are listed with an 18 in. deflector distance and these installations should be allowed to follow the listing parameters of the sprinklers. The large pipe sizes and large frame sizes associated with ESFR sprinklers are such that installing to the 14 in. level can become extremely difficult, so the lower elevations should be permitted. If the protection scheme is so sensitive to the deflector distance that was used during the testing cannot be varied, that criteria should never have been accepted into the NFPA standard.

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Public Comment No. 84-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 23.7.4.1 ]

23.7.4.1

The maximum sprinkler deflector distance below the ceiling shall be 14 in. (350 mm).

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

An FDS model was performed on a 35'-0" tall, double row rack configuration with a fire in the middle of four sprinklers at an elevation of 18" below a 40'-0" deck and an elevation of 14" below the same deck using a rapid fire growth model consistent with exposed expanded group A plastics. The model produced the time the average temperature of four sprinklers reached the 212 degree activation point. The results indicated that a 1/2 second delay was observed between the 14" and 18" elevation. The fire growth on a T-squared fire resulted in a growth of 963 kW which equates to less than 1% of the total fire growth. Therefore, the current criteria for all ESFR 25.2 requirements of a maximum 18" to the deck should be maintained and acceptable. Additionally, The current 2016 edition of NFPA 13 does not require a 14" maximum deck height. If this requirement is added to the 2019 Edition, it will not only affect the constructability of the system, but the current systems being installed with an 18" deflector design.

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Public Comment No. 179-NFPA 13-2017 [ New Section after 23.13 ]

23.13.1 Slatted rack shelves shall be considered equivalent to solid rack shelves where theshelving is not considered open rack shelving or where the requirements of 23.13.2 are not met.(see Section C.20.)

23.13.2 A wet pipe system that is designed to provide a minimum of 0.6 gpm/ft2 (24.4 mm/min) densityover a minimum area of 2000 ft2 (186 m2) or K-14.0 (200) ESFR sprinklers operating at a minimum of 50psi (3.4 bar), K-16.8 (240) sprinklers operating at a minimum of 32 psi (2.2 bar), K-22.4 (320) ESFRsprinklers operating at a minimum of 25 psi (1.7 bar), or K-25.2 (360) ESFR sprinklers operating at aminimum of 15 psi (1.0 bar) shall be permitted to protect single-row and double-row racks with slatted rackshelving where all of the following conditions are met:

(1) Sprinklers shall be K-11.2 (160), K-14.0 (200), or K-16.8 (240) orifice spray sprinklers with atemperature rating of ordinary, intermediate, or high and shall be listed for storage occupancies or shallbe K-14.0 (200), K-16.8 (240), K-22.4 (320) ESFR, or K-25.2 (360) ESFR.

(2) The protected commodities shall be limited to Class I through Class IV, Group B plastics, Group Cplastics, cartoned (expanded and nonexpanded) Group A plastics, and exposed (nonexpanded) Group Aplastics.

(3) Slats in slatted rack shelving shall be a minimum nominal 2 in. (50 mm) thick by maximum nominal 6in. (150 mm) wide, with the slats held in place by spacers that maintain a minimum 2 in. (50 mm) openingbetween each slat.

(4) Where K-11.2 (160), K-14.0 (200), or K-16.8 (240) orifice sprinklers are used, there shall be no slattedshelf levels in the rack above 12 ft (3.7 m). Open rack shelving using wire mesh shall be permitted forshelf levels above 12 ft (3.7 m).

(5) Transverse flue spaces at least 3 in. (75 mm) wide shall be provided at least every 10 ft (3.0 m)horizontally.

(6) Longitudinal flue spaces at least 6 in. (150 mm) wide shall be provided for double-row racks.Longitudinal flue spaces shall not be required where ESFR sprinklers are used.

(7) The aisle widths shall be at least ⁷¹⁄2 ft (2.3 m).

(8) The maximum roof height shall be 27 ft (8.2 m) or 30 ft (9.1 m) where ESFR sprinklers are used.

(9) The maximum storage height shall be 20 ft (6.1 m).

(10) Solid plywood or similar materials shall not be placed on the slatted shelves so that they block the 2in. (50 mm) spaces between slats, nor shall they be placed on wire mesh shelves.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

No subsections have been relocated to the Slatted Shelves heading. Add the requirements for slatted shelves from NFPA 13 (2016) 16.2.4.1 and 17.2.4.1 for protection. Changing wording from unexpanded to nonexpanded for consistency throughout NFPA 13. This should also be considered for addition in Chapter 25.

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Public Comment No. 224-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 23.13 ]

23.13 Slatted Shelves.

23.13.1* Slatted rack shelves shall be considered equivalent to solid rack shelves where the shelving isnot considered open rack shelving or where the requirements of 23.13.1 are not met. (See Section C.20.)

23.13.2 A wet pipe system that is designed to provide K-14.0 (200) ESFR sprinklers operating at aminimum of 50 psi (3.4 bar), K-16.8 (240) sprinklers operating at a minimum of 32 psi (2.2 bar), or K-25.2(360) ESFR sprinklers operating at a minimum of 15 psi (1.0 bar) shall be permitted to protect single-and double-row racks with slatted rack shelving racks where all of the following conditions are met:

(1) Sprinklers shall be K-14.0 (200), K-16.8 (240), or K-25.2 (360) ESFR.

(2) The protected commodities shall be limited to Class I through Class IV, Group B plastics, Group Cplastics, cartoned (expanded and unexpanded) Group A plastics, and exposed (unexpanded) Group Aplastics.

(3) Slats in slatted rack shelving shall be a minimum nominal 2 in. (50 mm) thick by maximum nominal 6in. (150 mm) wide with the slats held in place by spacers that maintain a minimum 2 in. (50 mm) openingbetween each slat.

(4) Where K-11.2 (160), K-14.0 (200), or K-16.8 (240) orifice sprinklers are used, there shall be no slattedshelf levels in the rack above 12 ft (3.7 m). Open rack shelving using wire mesh shall be permitted forshelf levels above 12 ft (3.7 m).

(5) Transverse flue spaces at least 3 in. (75 mm) wide shall be provided at least every 10 ft (3.0 m)horizontally.

(6) The aisle widths shall be at least ⁷¹⁄2 ft (2.3 m).

(8) The maximum roof height shall 30 ft (9.1 m)

(9) The maximum storage height shall be 20 ft (6.1 m).

(10) Solid plywood or similar materials shall not be placed on the slatted shelves so that they block the 2in. (50 mm) spaces between slats, nor shall they be placed on the wire mesh shelves.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

In the First Draft Report, Chapter 23, Section 23.13 for Slatted Shelves consists of just a title line. ESFR protection of slatted shelves is covered in 16.2.4.1 and 17.2.4.1 of NFPA 13-2016, so that information needs to be brought forward into this new ESFR chapter.

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Public Comment No. 217-NFPA 13-2017 [ Sections 24.1.2, 24.1.3 ]

Sections 24.1.2, 24.1.3

24.1.2

The requirements of Chapters 12 20 through 20 25 shall apply unless modified by this chapter.

24.1.2.1

Sprinklers having standard coverage areas that require up to 20 sprinklers to be included in the hydrauliccalculation shall be installed in accordance with 14.2.3, 14.2.4, 14.2.4.1 and 21.12.6.

24.1.2.1.1

Quick-response sprinklers shall also be installed in accordance with 14.2.5.1 and 14.2.5.2.

24.1.2.2

Sprinklers having extended coverage areas that require up to 10 sprinklers to be included in the hydrauliccalculation shall be installed in accordance with 14.2.3, 14.2.4, 14.2.4.1 and 21.12.6.

24.1.2.2.1

Quick-response sprinklers shall also be installed in accordance with 14.2.5.1 and 14.2.5.2.

24.1.3

The in-rack protection requirements of Chapters 12 through 20 Chapter 25 shall apply when storageracks are equipped with solid shelves and in-rack sprinklers are required per the applicable chapter.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

In Sections 24.1.2 and 24.1.3, the references are from the 2016 edition of the NFPA 13. These matters need to be revised to match the new chapter structure for the standard.

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Public Comment No. 309-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 24.2.1 ]

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Protection of palletized and solid-piled storage of Class I through Class IV and cartoned nonexpandedplastic commodities shall be permitted to be protected in accordance with Table 24.2.1.

Table 24.2.1 Extended Coverage, CMSA [K-factor 25.2 (360)] Sprinkler Design Criteria for Palletized andSolid-Piled Storage of Class I Through Class IV and Cartoned Nonexpanded Plastic Commodities

StorageArrangement

CommodityClass

MaximumStorageHeight

MaximumCeiling/Roof

Height

K-Factor/

Orientation

Type ofSystem

Numberof Design

Sprinklers

MinimumOperatingPressure

ft m ft m

Palletized andsolid-piled

Class I throughClass IV,encapsulatedandnonencapsulated,and cartonednonexpandedplastics

20 6.1 30 9.1

25.2 (360)Upright/

pendent

Wet 6

30 psi

(2.1 bar)

(

20 6.1 30 9.1

25.2 (360)Upright/

pendent

Wet 6

30 psi

(2.1 bar)

(

25 7.6 30 9.1

25.2 (360)Upright/

pendent

Wet 6

30 psi

(2.1 bar)

(

25 7.6 30 9.1

25.2 (360)Upright/

pendent

Wet 6

30 psi

(2.1 bar)

(

25 7.6 35 11

25.2 (360)Upright/

pendent

Wet 8

40 psi

(2.7 bar)

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StorageArrangement

CommodityClass

MaximumStorageHeight

MaximumCeiling/Roof

Height

K-Factor/

Orientation

Type ofSystem

Numberof Design

Sprinklers

MinimumOperatingPressure

ft m ft m

(

25 7.6 35 1125.2 (360)

UprightWet 8

40 psi

(2.8 bar)

(

30 9.1 35 11

25.2 (360)Upright/

pendent

Wet 8

40 psi

(2.8 bar)

(

30

30

9.1

9.1

35

35

11

11

25.2 (360)Upright

25.2 (360)

Pendent

Wet

Wet

8

6

40 psi

(2.8 bar)

60 psi

(4.1 bar)

(

(

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

The proposed change adds criteria for K25.2 EC Pendent sprinklers based on fire testing conducted by FM Global, which forms the basis for criteria included in FM Data Sheet 8-9 Table 3.

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PI-423

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Submitter Full Name: Steven Wolin

Organization: Reliable Automatic Sprinkler Co., Inc.

Street Address:

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Public Comment No. 297-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 24.3.1 ]

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Protection of single-, double-, and multiple-row racks without solid shelves of Class I through Class IV andcartoned nonexpanded plastic commodities shall be permitted to be protected in accordance with Table24.3.1.

Table 24.3.1 Extended Coverage, CMSA [K-Factor 25.2 (360)] Sprinkler Design Criteria for Single-,Double-, and Multiple-Row Racks Without Solid Shelves of Class I Through Class IV and CartonedNonexpanded Plastic Commodities

StorageArrangement

CommodityClass

MaximumStorageHeight

MaximumCeiling/Roof

Height

K-Factor/

Orientation

Type ofSystem

Numberof Design

Sprinklers

MinimumOperatingPressure

ft m ft m

Single-,double-, andmultiple-rowracks withoutsolid shelves(no open-topcontainers)

Class I throughClass IV,encapsulatedandnonencapsulated,and cartonednonexpandedplastics

20 6.1 30 9.1

25.2 (360)Upright/

pendent

Wet 6

30 psi

(2.1 bar)

(

20 6.1 30 9.1

25.2 (360)Upright/

pendent

Wet 6

30 psi

(2.1 bar)

(

25 7.6 30 9.1

25.2 (360)Upright/

pendent

Wet 6

30 psi

(2.1 bar)

(

25 7.6 30 9.1

25.2 (360)Upright/

pendent

Wet 6

30 psi

(2.1 bar)

(

25 7.6 35 11

25.2 (360)Upright/

Wet 8

40 psi

(2.6 bar)

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StorageArrangement

CommodityClass

MaximumStorageHeight

MaximumCeiling/Roof

Height

K-Factor/

Orientation

Type ofSystem

Numberof Design

Sprinklers

MinimumOperatingPressure

ft m ft m

pendent

(

25 7.6 35 1125.2 (360)

UprightWet 8

40 psi

(2.6 bar)

(

30 9.1 35 11

25.2 (360)Upright/

pendent

Wet 8

40 psi

(2.7 bar)

(

30

30

9.1

9.1

35

35

11

11

25.2 (360)Upright

25.2 (360)Pendent

Wet

Wet

8

6

40 psi

(2.6 bar)

60 psi

(4.1 bar)

(

(

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The proposed change adds criteria for K25.2 EC Pendent sprinklers based on fire testing conducted by FM Global, which forms the basis for criteria included in FM Data Sheet 8-9 Table 8.

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Public Comment No. 144-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 24.6 ]

24 25 .6 8.3 Alternative In-Rack rack Sprinkler Protection Criteria for Open-Frame Rack Storage ofClass I Through Class IV and Plastic Commodities Option 3 .

24.6.1

Protection of closed-top Class I through Class IV and plastic commodities stored on single-, double-, ormultiple-row racks without solid shelves shall be permitted to be protected in accordance with this section.

24.6.2

In-rack sprinkler systems shall be wet-pipe only.

24.6.3

In-rack sprinklers shall be standard-coverage, quick-response, pendent, and 160ºF (70ºC) nominallyrated.

24.6.3.1

Minimum K-14.0 (K-200) sprinklers shall be installed where the minimum required flow is 100 gpm (380L/min) or less.

24.6.3.2

Minimum K-22.4 (K-320) sprinklers shall be installed where the minimum required flow exceeds 100 gpm(380 L/min).

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Depending on the type of storage rack being protected, in-rack sprinklers shall be positioned horizontally inaccordance with Figure 24.6.4(a) through Figure 24.6.4(f) and the following:

(1) The minimum horizontal distance between in-rack sprinklers shall be 27 in. (700 mm), with themaximum horizontal distance being 4.5 ft (1.4 m), unless shown otherwise in the applicable figures.

(2) Except as shown in Figure 24.6.4(c), all in-rack sprinklers shall be located within the footprint of therack structure.

(3) All face sprinklers shall be positioned so that the horizontal distance between the face of the storagerack and the outer edge of storage, if it protrudes into the storage aisle, does not exceed 18 in. (450mm).

Figure 24.6.4(a) Plan View of In-Rack Sprinkler Arrangement for Open-Frame Single-Row RacksUp to 3 ft (0.9 m) Deep.

Figure 24.6.4(b) Plan View of In-Rack Sprinkler Arrangement for Open-Frame Single-Row RacksUp to 6 ft (1.8 m) Deep.

Figure 24.6.4(c) Plan View of In-Rack Sprinkler Arrangement for Open-Frame Single-Row RacksUp to 6 ft (1.8 m) Deep Located Against a Wall.

Figure 24.6.4(d) Plan View of In-Rack Sprinkler Arrangement for Open-Frame Double-Row RacksUp to 9 ft (2.7 m) Deep.

Figure 24.6.4(e) Plan View of In-Rack Sprinkler Arrangement for Open-Frame Double-Row RacksUp to 12 ft (3.7 m) Deep.

Figure 24.6.4(f) Plan View of In-Rack Sprinkler Arrangement for Open-Frame Multiple-Row Racks.

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24.6.5

The maximum allowable vertical distance between in-rack sprinklers for cartoned expanded plastics,exposed nonexpanded plastics, and exposed expanded plastics shall be 30 ft (9.1 m).

24.6.5.1

The maximum allowable vertical distance between in-rack sprinklers for Class I through Class IV andcartoned nonexpanded plastics shall be 40 ft (12.2 m).

24.6.5.2

A minimum 6 in. (150 mm) vertical distance between the top of storage and the in-rack sprinkler deflectorshall be maintained.

24.6.6

Regardless of the number of in-rack sprinkler levels installed, the number of sprinkler levels for the in-racksprinkler system design shall be based on the single most hydraulically remote in-rack sprinkler level andthe minimum number of in-rack sprinklers for this level in accordance with Table 24.6.6.

Table 24.6.6 Number of Sprinklers in the In-Rack Sprinkler Design

IRAS Installation Arrangement; Figure

Number of Sprinklers in the In-Rack Design

Class I through IV andCartoned Plastics

ExposedPlastics

Single-row racks uo to 3 ft (0.9 m) Deep; Figure21.6.4(a)

4 4

Single-row racks up to 6 ft (1.8 m) deep; Figures21.6.4(b) and 21.6.4(c)

5 5

Double- and multiple-row racks; Figures 21.6.4(e) and21.6.4(f)

6 6 and 6*

*This represents 6 sprinklers in the most remote rack as well as 6 sprinklers in the nearest adjacent rack.See Figures 21.6.4(d), 21.6.4(e) and 21.6.4(f) to determine which 6 sprinklers to account for in the in-racksprinkler design for double- and multiple-row racks.

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24.6.7

The minimum flow required in the system design shall be from the most remote in-rack sprinkler inaccordance with Table 24.6.7.

Table 24.6.7 Minimum Flow in the In-Rack Sprinkler Design

Maximum Vertical IRASInstallation Increment, ft

(m)Commodity Hazard

Min.K-Factor

Minimum Flow from MostRemote IRAS, gpm (L/min)

30 (9.1)

Class I through IV andcartoned nonexpandedplastic

14.0 (200) 65 (250)

Cartoned expanded plastic 14.0 (200) 100 (380)

Exposed plastic 22.4 (320) 120 (455)

40 (12.2)Class I through IV andcartoned nonexpandedplastic

22.4 (320) 121 (455)

24.6.8

A hose stream allowance of 250 gpm (950 L/min) shall be included as part of the in-rack sprinkler systemdesign obtained from Section 24.6.

24.6.9

The water supply requirements obtained from Section 24.6 shall be available for a minimum of 60 minutes.

24.6.10*

The water supply for the in-rack sprinkler system shall be capable of providing the required in-rack sprinklersystem design obtained from Section 24.6 independent of the design requirements of the ceiling sprinklersystem protecting this same area.

24.6.11

The ceiling sprinkler system shall be designed and installed in accordance with the guidelines outlined inChapters 16 or 17, depending on the commodity hazard, except as modified in Section 24.6 .

24.6.11.1

Where the in-rack sprinkler system is designed and installed in accordance with Section 24.6, the top levelof in-rack sprinklers shall be considered to be a floor for design purposes of the ceiling sprinkler system.

24.6.11.2

As a result, the storage height above the top level of in-rack sprinklers shall be permitted to be in excess of10 ft (3.0 m).

24.6.12*

The water supply for the ceiling system shall be capable of providing the required ceiling sprinkler systemdesign obtained from either Chapter 16 or Chapter 17 independent of the design requirements of thein-rack sprinkler system obtained from Section 24.6 and protecting this same area.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

The First Draft has the Alternative In-rack Sprinkler Protection Options in three different chapters, 20, 24, and 25. All of the Alternative In-rack Sprinkler Protection Options should be consolidated to one location in NFPA 13 so that they are easier to located and to avoid confusion about the application of these protection options.

I suggest consolidating the Alternative In-rack Sprinkler Protection Options to Section 25.8, with each option having a subsection. This comment suggests renumbering Section 24.6 to be Section 25.8.3 and renumbering all subsections of 24.6 accordingly.

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Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Steven Wolin

Organization: Reliable Automatic Sprinkler Co., Inc.

Street Address:

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Public Comment No. 325-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 24.6.3 ]

24.6.3

In-rack sprinklers shall be standard-coverage, quick-response, ESFR, pendent, and 160ºF (70ºC)nominally rated.

24.6.3.1

Minimum K-14.0 (K-200) ESFR sprinklers shall be installed where the minimum required flow is 100 gpm(380 L/min) or less.

24.6.3.2

Minimum K-22.4 (K-320) ESFR sprinklers shall be installed where the minimum required flow exceeds 100gpm (380 L/min).

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

As per the substantiation, this is to be guidance for in-rack sprinkler protection that utilizes ESFR sprinklers. However, nothing in the proposed text references that these in-rack sprinklers must be ESFRs. Since there are K-14.0 storage sprinklers available, which are not ESFR types, mistakes could too easily occur. Therefore, the text needs editing before it can go into the standard.

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Public Comment No. 218-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 25.1.2.1 ]

25.1.2.1

The in-rack sprinkler arrangements as well as the ceiling and in-rack sprinkler design criteria for rackstorage in this chapter shall be based on open -frame rack configurations as defined in 3.3.141 unlessindicated otherwise.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Editorial. Section 25.1.2 uses the term "open-frame racks", but that is not the term defined in Section 3.3.141. The term defined is "Open Rack". Therefore, the text of 25.1.2 must be revised accordingly.

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Public Comment No. 139-NFPA 13-2017 [ New Section after 25.5.1.1 ]

Horizontal

The horizontal spacing of in‐rack sprinklers shall be as follows:

(1) 10   (3.0 m) maximum for Class IV Commodi es

(2) 10   (3.0 m) maximum for Group A Plas c Commodi es

(3) 8   (2.4 m) maximum for rubber  res

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

{The original CI placed this language at 13.3.4.2, it is unclear if this is the best location to relocate that section within the new 25.]

This proposal was offered by the TC to provide better coordination between the in-rack spacing requirements of Chapter 13 with that of Chapters 16 to 18. NFSA supports this proposal. During the previous cycle, when the current text of 13.3.4.2 was entered via PI No. 330 and FR No. 295, the substantiation said that the maximum spacing of 8 ft was prescribed in Chapters 17 and 18. However, Chapter 17 only specifies 8 ft spacing across the width for multiple row racks, whereas for sprinklers in the longitudinal flue spaces, Figure 17.2.1.2.1(b), for storage up to 15 ft in height (beyond the height limitations of Chapter 13) indicates sprinklers ever two storage cubes, which represents a maximum spacing of 10 ft (3.0 m). The Committee Statement to FR No. 295 suggested that guidance for Class I--IV commodities should be included, so this proposal also offers in-rack spacing for Class IV commodities as well. Class I--III is not offered, since as per Table 13.2.1, with an OH2 design criteria in-rack sprinklers would not be needed to storage to 12 ft.

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Affilliation: NFSA Engineering and Standards Committee

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Public Comment No. 292-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 25.5.1.1.2 ]

25.5.1.1.2

For miscellaneous and low piled rack storage, the maximum allowable horizontal spacing of in-racksprinklers shall be as follows:

(1) 10 ft (3.0 m) maximum for Class IV Commodities

(2) 10 ft (3.0 m) maximum for Group A plastic Commodities

(3) 8 ft (2.4 m)

.maximum for rubber tires

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

During the First Draft Meeting, for PI-514, the Technical Committee, the horizontal spacing for in-rack sprinklers protecting was discussed and it was agreed that since 10 ft spacing was acceptable for Class IV, as per Table 16.2.1.4.2.1(b) and was acceptable for Group A plastics, as per Figure 17.2.1.2.1(b) for example, then it should also serve for Class IV and Group A for miscellaneous storage and low-piled storage applications. The Committee Comment for PI-513 PI-514 discusses this, but a change is not evident in the First Draft Report. Therefore, the revision should be accepted at this stage of the process.

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PI-514

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Public Comment No. 307-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 25.5.2.13 ]

25.5.2.13

Where miscellaneous and low piled single- and double-row rack storage does not have a longitudinal flue,in-rack sprinklers shall be located within 12 in. (300 mm) of the center of the rack while not exceeding themaximum allowable horizontal in-rack sprinkler spacing.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

During the First Draft meeting, the technical Committee resolve PI-512 with the statement that guidance is needed where there is no longitudinal flue. However, there is no such guidance for high-piled storage on single and double row racks, so there is no reason to apply such a severe requirement on the lesser demanding low-piled and miscellaeous storage situations.

This is a very severe requirement, especially for single row racks and should be deleted. There are no parallel requirements in Chapters 16 or 17. In fact in those chapters many of the illustrations, such as Figure 16.3.1.3.1.1(A)(b) and Figure 17.2.1.4(b) show sprinklers between an adjacent wall and a single row rack, rather than within 12 in. of the center of the rack.

The in-rack sprinkler criteria for low-piled storage and miscellaneous storage should not be more demanding than the requirements in for high piled storage.

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Public Comment No. 148-NFPA 13-2017 [ New Section after 25.8.2 ]

25.8.4 Alternative In-Rack Sprinkler Protection Option 4.

25.8.4.1 Class I through Class IV and Group A plastic commodities requiring a greater level of protectionthan is available from the overhead sprinkler system shall be permitted to be protected in accordance withthis section.

25.8.4.1.1 Where the storage rack will not be solely dedicated to the storage of commodities requiring agreater level of protection than is available from the overhead sprinkler system, either of the following shallapply:

(1) Extend the protection prescribed by this section horizontally one pallet load in all directions beyond thecommodity

storage area requiring the higher level of protection.

(2) Install a vertical barrier to segregate the commodities requiring the higher level of protection from anyadjacent

commodities.

25.8.4.1.2 Commodities that can be protected by the ceiling level sprinkler system shall be permitted to bestored vertically above and horizontally adjacent to the portions of the storage rack equipped as prescribedby this section.

25.8.4.2 Horizontal Barriers. Horizontal barriers shall be installed at every tier level of the dedicatedstorage rack where the rack is equipped with solid shelves.

25.8.4.2.1 Where dedicated storage of cartoned Group A plastic commodity is in open-frame racks,horizontal barriers shall be installed at vertical increments not exceeding 30 ft (9.1 m).

25.8.4.2.2 Where dedicated storage of exposed Group A plastic commodity is in open-frame racks,horizontal barriers shall be installed at vertical increments not exceeding 20 ft (6.1 m).

25.8.4.2.3 The barriers shall span horizontally so that all flue spaces within the rack bay are covered.

25.8.4.2.4 A maximum 3 in. (75 mm) wide gap shall be permitted at rack uprights.

25.8.4.2.5 The solid barrier shall be installed on a horizontal plane within a rack, beneath which in-racksprinklers shall be installed, as follows:

(A) The barrier shall be constructed of minimum 22 gauge (0.7 mm) sheet metal or of minimum 3 ⁄ 8in. (10 mm) plywood.

(B) The barrier shall extend to both ends and both aisle faces of the racks covering up both the longitudinaland transverse

flue spaces of the rack bays in which they are installed.

(C) The barrier shall be fitted to within 3 in. (75 mm) of any vertical rack member or other equipment thatwould create an opening, such as vertical in-rack sprinkler pipe drops.

25.8.4.3 In-Rack Sprinklers. Intermediate temperature extended coverage CMDA pendent storagesprinklers with a nominal K-factor of K-25.2 (360) shall be installed beneath each horizontal barrier. Thedeflector of the sprinkler shall be located as close to the underside of the horizontal barrier as possible withthe deflector a minimum of 6 in. (15m) above the top of the commodity.

25.8.4.3.1 Single-Row Racks.

(A) For single-row racks, sprinklers shall be installed at each rack mid-bay as shown in Figure25.8.4.3.1(A) for Class I through Class IV and cartoned Group A plastic commodity and Figure25.8.4.3.1(B) for exposed Group A plastic commodity.

(B) The maximum linear spacing between sprinklers shall not exceed 10 ft (3.1 m).

25.8.4.3.2 Double-Row Racks.

(A) For double-row racks, sprinklers shall be installed within the longitudinal flue space at each rackmid-bay as shown in Figure 25.8.4.3.2(A) for Class I through Class IV and cartoned Group A plasticcommodity and Figure 25.8.4.3.2(B) for exposed Group A plastic commodity.

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(B) The maximum linear spacing between sprinklers shall not exceed 10 ft (3.1 m).

.

25.8.4.3.3 Multiple-Row Racks.

(A) For multiple-row racks with an overall depth between aisles not exceeding 15 ft 6 in. (4.7 m), analternating sprinkler arrangement shall be installed within adjacent transverse flue spaces as shown inFigure 25.8.4.3.3(A) for Class I throught Class IV and cartoned Group A plastic commodity and Figure25.8.4.3.3(B) for exposed Group A plastic commodity.

(B) The maximum linear spacing between sprinklers at the face shall not exceed 10 ft (3.1 m) and shall notexceed 10 ft (3.1 m) between sprinklers at every other bay.

25.8.4.4 The design of an in-rack sprinkler system shall be based on a minimum flow of 138 gpm (520L/min) from the most remote three sprinklers for single-row and double-row racks or the most remote sixsprinklers (two at each face and two in-between) for multiple-row racks.

25.8.4.5 The in-rack sprinkler demand shall not be required to be hydraulically balanced with theceiling-level sprinkler system.

25.8.4.6 Ceiling Sprinkler System. The ceiling-level sprinkler system shall be designed based on thehighest commodity hazard not protected by the criteria prescribed by this section.

Additional Proposed Changes

File Name Description Approved

Figures_25_8_4_3.pdf

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

The Technical Committee on Sprinkler System Discharge Criteria voted to create First Revisions based on PI-427 and PI-453 at the First Draft Meeting. The First Revisions were inadvertently omitted from the First Draft. The proposed Second Revision will add the content of PI-427 and PI-453 to the Second Draft. The proposed Second Revision consolidates the First Revisions proposed by PI-427 and PI-453 to Section 25.8 to be consistent with the new format. The previously submitted figures are attached that have been updated with the new figure numbers and captions.

Two additional changes to the content of the PI-427 and PI-453 are suggested:

1. Revised design criteria to remove the 1.5X safety factor, consistent with CMDA sprinklers.2. Added criteria for min. deflector to commodity distance.

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PI-453

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Organization: Reliable Automatic Sprinkler Co., Inc.

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Public Comment No. 314-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. 25.8.2 ]

25 20 .8.2 Alternative In-Rack Sprinkler Protection Option 2. 25.8.2. 16 Solid Shelves.

20.16. 1

Where Class I, II, III, IV and Group A plastic commodities are protected in accordance with this section, thein-rack sprinkler system shall not be required to be hydraulically balanced with the ceiling-level sprinklersystem.

25 20 .8 16 .2.2

For open-frame storage racks, install horizontal barriers as outlined in 25.7 as well as in-rack sprinklers amaximum of every 6 ft (1.8 m) vertically.

25 20 .8 16 .2. 3

For storage racks having solid shelves with shelf areas that exceed 20 ft2 (1.9 m2) but not 64 ft2 (5.9 m2)and CMDA sprinklers are installed at ceiling level, in-rack sprinklers shall be installed below shelves atintermediate levels not more than 6 ft (1.8 m) apart vertically.

25 20 .8 16 .2. 4

For storage racks having solid shelves with shelf areas that exceed 20 ft2 (1.9 m2) but not 64 ft2 (5.9 m2)and CMSA or ESFR sprinklers are installed at ceiling level, in-rack sprinklers shall be installed below eachlevel of shelving.

25 20 .8 16 .2. 5

For storage racks having solid shelves with shelf areas that exceed 64 ft2 (5.9 m2), in-rack sprinklers shallbe installed below each level of shelving.

25 20 .8 16 .2. 6

Where CMDA sprinklers are at ceiling level and protecting single- or double-row racks with solid shelves ofClass I through Class IV commodities stored up to and including 25 ft (7.6 m) in height, a minimum 6 in.(150 mm) vertical clear space shall be maintained between in-rack sprinkler deflectors and the top ofstorage located below them.

25 20 .8 16 .2. 7

Where racks contain storage of Class I through Class IV commodities, the maximum allowable horizontalspacing of in-rack sprinklers shall be 10 ft (3.0 m).

25 20 .8 16 .2. 8

Where racks with solid shelves contain storage of plastic commodities, the maximum allowable horizontalspacing of in-rack sprinklers shall be 5 ft (1.5 m).

25 20 .8 16 .2. 9

Face sprinklers shall be installed under each solid shelf or horizontal barrier at rack uprights.

25 20 .8 16 .2. 10 In-Rack Sprinkler System Design.

The in-rack sprinkler design for the in-rack sprinkler arrangement outlined in this section shall be based ona minimum flow of 60 gpm (230 L/min) from the most remote eight in-rack sprinklers.

25 20 .8 16 .2. 11

Where a storage rack will not be solely dedicated to the in-rack sprinkler system outlined in this section,either of the following shall apply:

25 20 .8 16 .2. 11.1

Extend the protection outlined in this section horizontally one pallet load in all directions beyond thecommodity storage area that is being protected by the alternative in-rack sprinkler arrangement.

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25 20 .8 16 .2. 11.2

Install a vertical barrier to segregate the commodities that are being protected by the alternative in-racksprinkler arrangement.

25 20 .8 16 .2. 12

Where a storage rack is partially protected by the in-rack sprinkler system outlined in this section,commodities that can be protected by the ceiling-level sprinkler system shall be permitted to be storedvertically above and horizontally adjacent to the portions of the storage rack protected in accordance withthis section.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

This section was label "Solid Shelving" in the 2016 edition of NFPA 13. It has been labeled as an Alternative In-Rack Sprinkler Protection option in the First Draft, which I believe was inadvertent. This is a section on how to address solid shelving that provides additional requirements for in-rack sprinklers when solid shelves are present. This is not an alternative to other in-rack sprinkler systems or protection schemes. I suggest labeling this section Solid Shelving, as it was in the 2016 edition, and moving it to Chapter 20, General Requirements for Storage.

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Submitter Information Verification

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Organization: Reliable Automatic Sprinkler Co., Inc.

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Public Comment No. 115-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. A.3.3.206.4 ]

A.3.3.206.4 Sprinkler System.

As applied to the definition of a sprinkler system, each system riser serving a portion of a single floor of afacility or where individual floor control valves are used in a multistory building should be considered aseparate sprinkler system. Multiple sprinkler systems can be supplied by a common supply main.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

As it is currently entered in the First draft Report, the definitions for a sprinkler system and for the various types of sprinkler system is sandwiched in between the sections for the types of sprinkler by installation orientation and the sprinkler system types. This location is obscure. It is not intuitive to look for the definition of a wet pipe system immediately before the definition of a CMDA sprinkler. The systems (types) should have their section. Therefore it is proposed to move A.3.3.206.4 to A.3.3.207.

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Public Comment No. 116-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. A.3.3.206.4.6 ]

A.3.3.206.4.6 Gridded Sprinkler System.

See Figure A.3.3.206.4.6 .

Figure A.3.3.206.4.6 Gridded System.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

As it is currently entered in the First draft Report, the definitions for a sprinkler system and for the various types of sprinkler system is sandwiched in between the sections for the types of sprinkler by installation orientation and the sprinkler system types. This location is obscure. It is not intuitive to look for the definition of a wet pipe system immediately before the definition of a CMDA sprinkler. The systems (types) should have their section. Therefore it is proposed to move A.3.3.206.4.6 to A.3.3.207.5.

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Public Comment No. 117-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. A.3.3.206.4.7 ]

A.3.3.206.4.7 Looped Sprinkler System.

See Figure A.3.3.206.4.7 .

Figure A.3.3.206.4.7 Looped System.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

As it is currently entered in the First draft Report, the definitions for a sprinkler system and for the various types of sprinkler system is sandwiched in between the sections for the types of sprinkler by installation orientation and the sprinkler system types. This location is obscure. It is not intuitive to look for the definition of a wet pipe system immediately before the definition of a CMDA sprinkler. The systems (types) should have their section. Therefore it is proposed to move A.3.3.206.4.7 to A.3.3.207.6.

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Public Comment No. 118-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. A.3.3.206.4.10 ]

A.3.3.206.4.10 Preaction Sprinkler System.

The actuating means of the valve are described in 8.3.2.1 . Actuation of the detection system andsprinklers in the case of double-interlocked systems opens a valve that permits water to flow into thesprinkler piping system and to be discharged from any sprinklers that are open.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

As it is currently entered in the First draft Report, the definitions for a sprinkler system and for the various types of sprinkler system is sandwiched in between the sections for the types of sprinkler by installation orientation and the sprinkler system types. This location is obscure. It is not intuitive to look for the definition of a wet pipe system immediately before the definition of a CMDA sprinkler. The systems (types) should have their section. Therefore it is proposed to move A.3.3.206.4.10 to A.3.3.207.9.

Related Item

FR-866

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Organization: PLC Fire Safety Solutions

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Mon May 08 22:20:30 EDT 2017

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Public Comment No. 111-NFPA 13-2017 [ New Section after A.3.3.206.5.15 ]

A.3.3.207

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As it is currently entered in the First draft Report, the definitions for a sprinkler system and for the various types of sprinkler system is sandwiched in between the sections for the types of sprinkler by installation orientation and the sprinkler system types. This location is obscure. It is not intuitive to look for the definition of a wet pipe system immediately before the definition of a CMDA sprinkler. The systems (types) should have their section. Therefore it is proposed to move A.3.3.206.4 to A.3.3.207

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A.3.3.207   Sprinkler System.   As applied to the definition of a sprinkler system, each system riser serving a portion of a single floor of a facility or where individual floor control valves are used in a multistory building should be considered a separate sprinkler system. Multiple sprinkler systems can be supplied by a common supply main.  

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Public Comment No. 112-NFPA 13-2017 [ New Section after A.3.3.206.5.15 ]

A.3.3.20.5

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As it is currently entered in the First draft Report, the definitions for a sprinkler system and for the various types of sprinkler system is sandwiched in between the sections for the types of sprinkler by installation orientation and the sprinkler system types. This location is obscure. It is not intuitive to look for the definition of a wet pipe system immediately before the definition of a CMDA sprinkler. The systems (types) should have their section. Therefore it is proposed to move A.3.3.206.4.6 to A.3.3.207.5.

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A.3.3.207.5   Gridded Sprinkler System.   See Figure A.3.3.207.5.  

               Figure A.3.3.207.5   Gridded System  

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Public Comment No. 113-NFPA 13-2017 [ New Section after A.3.3.206.5.15 ]

A.3.3.207.6

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Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

As it is currently entered in the First draft Report, the definitions for a sprinkler system and for the various types of sprinkler system is sandwiched in between the sections for the types of sprinkler by installation orientation and the sprinkler system types. This location is obscure. It is not intuitive to look for the definition of a wet pipe system immediately before the definition of a CMDA sprinkler. The systems (types) should have their section. Therefore it is proposed to move A.3.3.206.4.7 to A.3.3.207.6.

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A.3.3.207.6   Looped Sprinkler System.   See Figure A.3.3.207.6.  

          Figure A.3.3.207.6   Looped System  

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Public Comment No. 114-NFPA 13-2017 [ New Section after A.3.3.206.5.15 ]

A.3.3.207.9

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Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

As it is currently entered in the First draft Report, the definitions for a sprinkler system and for the various types of sprinkler system is sandwiched in between the sections for the types of sprinkler by installation orientation and the sprinkler system types. This location is obscure. It is not intuitive to look for the definition of a wet pipe system immediately before the definition of a CMDA sprinkler. The systems (types) should have their section. Therefore it is proposed to move A.3.3.206.4.10 to A.3.3.207.9.

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A.3.3.207.9   Preaction Sprinkler System.   The actuating means of the valve are described in 8.3.2.1. Actuation of the detection system and sprinklers in the case of double‐interlocked systems opens a valve that permits water to flow into the sprinkler piping system and to be discharged from any sprinklers that are open.      

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Public Comment No. 134-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. A.5.2.2.2.1.1 ]

A.5.2.2.2.1.1

The purpose of the adjustment is to take into account reasonable daily and seasonal variations in the watersupply, which are easily predicted and tracked by a water utility. It is not the intent to use this section toaccount for unusual conditions such as 100-year droughts or water main breaks. These unusual conditionsare handled through the impairment procedures of NFPA 25 and should not be considered whendetermining the ability of a water supply to meet the demand of a fire protection system under more normalcircumstances.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

The adjustment to a water flow test is unnecessary as many safety factors are already included throughout the standard for installation and design of sprinkler systems. NFPA 13 has not previously required a set safety margin specifically to water flow tests and this has not been an issue. Local jurisdictions already include their own safety factor, just as many contractors include their own safety factors within their own set of calculations above the standard.

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Public Comment No. 135-NFPA 13-2017 [ Section No. A.5.2.2.2.1.2 ]

A.5.2.2.2.1.2

Consider the following example: A waterflow test is conducted at a location where a city water main isgoing to be tapped for a new sprinkler system. During the test, the static pressure is measured at 70 psi(4.8 bar) the residual pressure is measured at 50 psi (3.5 bar) while 1300 gpm (4920 L/min) wasdischarging from a nearby hydrant. The water utility is contacted, and they indicate that a reasonable lowstatic pressure accounting for typical daily and seasonal fluctuations in this area is 55 psi (3.8 bar). Thefollowing equation describes the water supply available for a fire sprinkler system :

[A.5.2.2.2.1.2a

There are two ways to use this formula:

(1) Assume two different values for Q , calculate P , and then draw a graph on log 1.85 paper. Any firesprinkler system demand falling on or below the line on this graph would be acceptable in accordancewith NFPA 13 to work with this water supply. In this case, the two easiest flows to pick for Q wouldbe 0 and 1300 gpm (4920 L/min). Where Q = 0, P is simply 55 psi (3.8 bar). Where Q = 1300gpm (4920 L/min), P = 35 psi (2.4 bar). These two points can be plotted on log 1.85 paper as shownin Figure A.5.2.2.2.1.2 .

(2) Calculate the fire protection system and determine the flow necessary to make the system work. Plugthis flow into the preceding formula to determine the available pressure from the water supply at thatflow. For example, if a sprinkler system connected to this water supply had a demand of 580 gpm(2195 L/min) the available pressure from the water supply would be as follows:

[A.5.2.2.2.1.2

So, as long as the sprinkler system has a pressure demand less than or equal to 50.5 psi (3.5 bar), itwill work with this water supply.

Figure A.5.2.2.2.1.2 Available Water Supply Curve for Example in A.5.2.2.2.1.2.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

The adjustment to a water flow test is unnecessary as many safety factors are already included throughout the standard for installation and design of sprinkler systems. NFPA 13 has not previously required a set safety margin specifically to water flow tests and this has not been an issue. Local jurisdictions already include their own safety factor, just as many contractors include their own safety factors within their own set of calculations above the standard.

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Public Comment No. 174-NFPA 13-2017 [ New Section after A.19.3.2.6 ]

A.19.3.3.1.1.1

The maximum design area for miscellaneous and low-piled storage is limited to 3000 ft2 (279 m2) whichtruncates the usable portion of Figure 19.3.3.1.1. See Figure A.19.3.3.1.1.1.

[Insert figure from NFPA 13 (2016) Figure 13.2.1]

Figure A.19.3.3.1.1.1 Miscellaneous Storage Up to 12 ft (3.7 m) in Height -- Design Curves

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Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

During the reorganization, Figure 13.2.1 was deleted along with the entirety of Chapter 13. In doing so, the reference to the abbreviated density/area table for Low/Misc and Solid piled storage was reduced to a text exception. This table should be placed in the Annex to clarify the 3000 square foot limit as it applies to miscellaneous and low-piled storage.

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Text subsection limiting D/A table use (existinglocation)

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Public Comment No. 99-NFPA 13-2017 [ New Section after A.21.8.1.1 ]

A.21.10

For protection of baled cotton, fire tests and actual

fire experience indicate an initial low heat release; thus, sprinklers

in the ordinary-temperature range should offer some advantage

by opening faster than those of intermediate- or hightemperature

classifications under similar conditions.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

This comment proposes to move the the exiting annex not A.9.4.2.1 to the Annex of section 21.10. This note is in reference to Baled Cotton and is more appropriate in this section then in section 9.4.2.1 which deals with temperature rating of sprinklers.

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