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THE PROBLEM OF THE FIRST ITALIOTE COINS
[See
Plates
I-III]
I.
Date, Fabric,
Finance
No
group
of Ancient
Greek
coins not even the
sixth-century
oins
of Athens has aroused so
much
discussion,
o much
controversy,
s
the
early
incuse
coinage
of
Magna
Graecia.
Having
taken
part
in
these discussions
already
I
venture once more
nto
a
dangerous
field,
where,
dodging
round the
holy tripod
of
Croton,
eluding
the
sharp
spikes ofMetapontum,and the horns of theSybaritebull, I am still
confrontedwith
the noble
agalmata
of
Apollo
and Poseidon to
which
I
raise
my
hands
in
supplication.
Those who
have been attracted
by
these
superb
coins have been
either
romanticsor realists
n
their
pproach.
The
romantics,
mong
whom
are to be included
the
Duc
de
Luynes, François
Lenormant,
Ernest
Babelon,
Sir
George
Hill,
and
myself,
have all
thought
that
these
coins
must,
in
some
kind
of
way,
have been linked
to the
Pythagorean movement. I think perhaps they felt that it was
overstraining
robability
to
deny
all connexion
between
the
move-
ment
and the
money.
The
realists,
among
whom
are included
the
late
Dr. B. V.
Head,
Sir
W.
Ridgeway,
Mr.
Sydney
P.
Noe,
Dr.
Milne,
and
Dr.
Sutherland,
share
that historical
approach
which
rightly
uspects
everything
nd
anything
that seems
"too
good
to
be true
.
In
fact,
both sides
feel
that
probabilities
can be
too
attrac-
tive,
and one side
shrinks
from
discarding
them,
solely
because
they
are
attractive,
the
other
from
admitting
them because
they
are so
alluring.
Now
the
strongest
rgument
of the
realists
who
oppose
any
idea
of a
connexion
between
the
incuse
coinage
and
Pythagoreans
s one
of date.
They
maintain,
rightly,
that
Pythagoras
himself
could
hardly
have
arrived
in
Croton
before
about
535
b.c.,
but that
the
city
of
Siris
was
destroyed
by
Metapontum,
Croton,
and
Sybaris
in
alliance
at
some
date
shortly
fter
550
b.c.1
and
that,
since
there are
coins
with
the
name
of Siris
(in
appearance
just
like
the coins
of
Sybaris), thesemusthave been issued about or before550 b.c.
1
However,
n
C.A.H.
iv,
the destruction
f Siris
s
put
as late
as 527 b.c.
vi.
X.
-2
B
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CHARLES SELTMAN
This,
of
course,
would be conclusive
f
t could be shown that
there
were
any
coins of
Siris.
But therewere not
any.
There are
coins of
a
west-coast
place
called
Pyxus
(Greek,
lvÇóes
=
IIvŠovs),
which,
on the
evidence
of the
legend,
may
be
assumed to
have been
founded
or
occupied by
the remnant
of
the
Sirinians
who
survived
the
disaster of
c.
550
b.c.
By
530
b.c.
these
people,
having
attained
stability
and
prosperity,
ssued coins
n
imitation of
current
Sybarite money
and inscribedthem with an
adjective
and a noun in
the
nominative2
Sirinian
Pyxus". They
are
coins
of
Pyxus
-
cer-
tainlynot of Siris. If "Pyxous" is thoughtto be an unusual form
one
may
recall the existence of Lokrian
"
Opous
".
A
simple
nomina-
tive is
in
accordance with
Italiote
practice;
for
example,
?PoToN
at
Croton,
and
TARA*
on the first
oins
of
Tarentum.
Fifty
years
later
exactly
the
same kind of
thing
was
done at
Poseidonia;
for,
after
Croton
destroyed Sybaris
in 510
b.c.,
some
displaced
Sybarites
found a home
in
their own
west-coast
colony
of
Poseidonia.
There,
after
480
b.c.,
they
ssued,
with
the
permission
f
the Poseidoniates, coins inscribed on their two sides Sv . . . Tloa
which
must
surely
mean
"
Sybarite
Poseidonia".3
The
coins of
Pyxus,
then,
are imitations of
coins of
Sybaris
and
may
well have
originated
as late as 530
b.c.
The second
argument
from
date is
based,
sometimeswithout
suffi-
cient
reflection,
n
the
Metapontine
chronology
f
Mr.
S.
P.
Noe,
who
was influenced
by
the
supposed
bulk of
surviving
coins
of
Sybaris
(destroyed
n 510
b.c.)
which
he
thought
covered more than
24
years.
Noe's
scholarly
work
groups
the incuse coins of
Metapontum
into
twelve
classes,
and I have
long
held the view that these call for a
partial
rearrangement.4
One of his most
interestinggroups
is
his
2
Thus
B.
V. Head in
H.N,2,
.
84.
It
is conceivable
hat hese
oins
were
actually
made
n
Sybaris
or
yxus.
3
Loc.
cit.,
.
85.
4
The
Coinage
f
Metapontum
art
;
Num.Notes nd
Monogr
no.
32,
1927.
Probably
etween 34 and 510 b.c. the
Metapontine
intor
mints
ssued
staters
f the
following
lasses
et forth
y
Noe: Class
II
(14
die-pairs),
V
(12),
(27),
I
(10),
VIII
(10),
V
(6)
i.e.
79
die-pairs
n 24
years,
r
a
little
ver
3
die
pairs er
nnum.
Noe,p. 50,
thinks he
urvivinguantity
f
Sybaritecoins s twobigto be fittednto hese ame 24years.Myown mpressions
that
Sybarites
re
ess
plentiful
han
Metapontines. ailing
Corpus,
have
collected rom 7 accessible
nd
published
ollectionsome
details
bout the
coins of five ities ssuedbefore 10
b.c. The
sources re
Carelli,Garucci,
B.M.G.
taly,
Ashmolean
useum,McClean,
e
Luynes,
unter,
Metropolitan
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CHARLES SELTMAN
was to renderthese thinflans mmensely trong".7 (vi) "The coins
produced
in
this fabric
formed stock of
silver
currency
which,
so
far
from
being
available for
export,
was
in
fact
supplemented
by
assiduous
importation
of
silver,
notably
in
the form
of
Corinthian
coin
'used
for
recoiningV'
However,
there is more
to be
said
about
pressure-moulding,
or
this
in
its
turn
has
likeness to
the cire
perdue*
echnique
introduced
to
the Greeks
by
Rhoikos and
Theodoros,9
he
technique
of
hollow-
casting
between
a core and
a
mantle
the
latter
perfectly
djusted
over the former. Monsieur Paul
Naster,
Librarian of the
Royal
Cabinet of
Coins
in
Brussels,
pointed
this
out in
1947.
0
The
impor-
tance of
Naster's
paper
is that he
has
shown
beyond
all doubt
that
the
early
incuse
coins of
Croton,
Metapontum,
and
other
Italiote
cities
were made
from
a
deep
intaglio-carved
obverse-die and
from
a
cameo-carved
reverse-die n
high
relief,
but
not
by any
method
of
hubbing.
Accordingly,
he
cameo
reverse-die s
to be
regarded
as
a kind of
core,
the
intaglio
obverse-die as a
kind of
mantle.
Just as
a thin-walledbronze statue was cast between its core and mantle,
so a thin11
ilver
coin-disk
was
pressed
out
by
hammerblows
between
its
two dies
reverse core
obverse
mantle.
Yet
there
was one
obvious
disadvantage;
for
this
coinage
must
have
been
exceedingly
expensive
to
produce
more
expensive
than
any
other
ancient
money.
Meticulous
adjustment
of
dies,
slow
technical
production,
a
constant
watch
for
small
die-flaws12
hich
would have
broken
these thin
coins;
all
these
factors
must
have
added to the
cost of
minting. Whereas, in many a State making
tougher
coins,
flaws
could be
and
were
ignored,
the
Italiotes
had
7
Sutherland,
oc.
it.,
p.
21
f. The
Tableof
Frequency
n
p.
23
incomplete
though
t
is
for
Croton
nd
Caulonia
n
particular)
s
of
great
value.
Gisela M. A.
Richter,
he
Sculpture
nd
Sculptors
f
the
Greeks
1929,
p.
104.
9
Seltman,
pproach
o
Greek
rt
1948,
.
37.
10
Rev
Belge
de
Numis.,
1947,
pp.
5
ff.
He
did
not
knowof
Sutherland's
article
lanned
orAm.
Num.
Soc.
Mus.
Notes
iii,
of
1948
and
while
uther-
land
had
heard
f
Naster's
aper,
e had
not
been
ble to
see t.
11
Naster,oc.cit., late with hotographsfcasts taken irect romhehollow everses) hich ecreateheformfthereverse ies. Ontheextreme
thinnessee
loc.
cit.,
.
15.
12
Witness
he
anxiety
aused
to a
Metapontine
mint
operative
y
an
insignificant
ut
growing
law n
the
obverse
ie
of
Noe,
op.
cit.,
no.
la
to
Id,
whichwas
carefullyepaired.
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PKOBLEM
OF
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FIRST ITALIOTE
COINS 5
to discard or to remake completely heir dies afterbriefuse. There-
fore,
n
a
short
period
of
years
they
would
be
obliged
to
employ
a
greater
number
of
dies than
any
other
coin-minting
Greeks.
The
sheer
expense
was
probably
the main
cause
for the
adoption
after
c.
510
b.c.
of
smallerdies
and the
consequent
thickening
f
coin-flans.
This
superb
coinage
could
not have been
brought
nto
being by
a
committee
f
bankers who
would
not
have understood
he
technique,
nor
by
a
committee of
artists
who would not have
appreciated
economic
necessities.
It could
only
be the
work
of an
exceptional
personality;
an individual
(a)
who from
youth
had learnt and
mastered
the
technique
of
engraving,
chasing,
and
working
in
precious
metals
(b)
who had delicate
and
fine
ersonal
art-sensibility
(c)
who
understood ertain
ngineering
rinciples,
nd was
acquainted
with the
cire-perdue
rocess recently
ntroduced
from
Egypt
into
Samos
;
(d)
who
had a mathematical bent which
turned
his
interest
to
Greek world finance n
his
day,
and who was
fully
alive to the
importance
of
Corinth and
Corinthian
trade
within
that economic
frame.
If
Sutherland be
right
and
I
believe
he is
he
is
presupposing
forthe
creation of this
masterly
oinage
out
of
nothing
anyway,
out
of
nothing
obvious)
the
existence
of a
genius;
a
genius
equal
in
eminence at the
very
east to the eminence
of
Leonardo
da Vinci.
For
the latter half
of
the sixth
century
b.c.
there
is
only
one
name to
fit
this role
Pythagoras.
II. Pythagoras as an Artist
It is a
matter for
some
surprise
that there does
not seem
to exist
a modern
critical
biography
of
Pythagoras,
slight
hough
t would
be.
Books
by
the
hundred,
rticles
by
the
thousand,
may
be found
dealing
with his
thought,
the
thought
of his
followers,
nd
Pythagoreanism
in
general
as
science,
philosophy,mysticism,
r
religion
but
not
a
recent
critical "Life" of the man.13
The best
I have
been
able
to
discover s
in
Latin
by
Mullach,
published
n Paris
in
1867.14
Yet the
ancient
sources are not
too bad.
Primary
s
Herodotus,
who,
born
13
Pauly-Wissowa,
eal-Encyclopädie,
as not
yet
reached
im.
14
r. A.
G.
Mullach n
Frag, ťmíosop
iorum
Jraecorum,
,
lob/,
edition
Didot,
Paris.
J.
Burnet,
arly
Greek
hilosophy,
d.
4,
193Ó,
p.
87
f.,
has
a
slender
utline fhis ifewhich
annot
elp
us
much.
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SELTMAN
at
Halicarnassus and
ending
his life at
Thurii,
was
equally
familiar
with Samos
and
Croton.
He,
of
course,
refersto
Pythagoras
and
supplies
an admirable
picture
of his
background
when
talking
about
the
reign
of
Polycrates
of
Samos
between 540
and
522
b.c.
A
secondary
source,
of mixed
value,
is the Life in
the
eighth
book
of
the
Lives
of
the
Philosophers
by
Diogenes
Laertius. To
these two
sources
must be added
tales and
fragments
from other
writers15
relating
to
Pythagoras
and his
father
Mnesarchos.
From
all
this
something
was
compiled
by
Mullach;
but
there
seems a
need
for
some more modernbiography, nd especiallyfor a carefulsifting f
the
different
ales,
so variable in their
reliability,
ncorporated
by
the
voracious
Diogenes
Laertius.
Here
I
can
do
no more than
give
a
summary
f
my
own
conclusions
founded
on much
reading
and considerable
research.
In
the
whole
corpus
of
ancient
writings
oncerning ythagoras
there re
four
kinds
of
tradition
I.
Tradition
based
on
Samos.
This is the
most
reliable.
II. Traditionbased on Croton and Metapontumconcerning is life
and death in
Italy
: also
fairly
eliable.
III. Tradition
coming
from
Italy
concerning
the
Pythagorean
Brotherhoods nd their
rules less
reliable
sometimes
dubious.
IV. General
traditions
oncerning
he
beliefs,
heories,
nd
religious
and
philosophical
views of
himself
nd his
followers.
Some of
these are
very
ate
and often
unreliable.
It is
unfortunatethat in
Diogenes
Laertius'
Life of Pythagoras
these four
separate
traditions are not
always kept
clearly apart
;
but,
if
you
approach
the text with the
four
eparate
strands
n
mind,
it is
usually
fairly imple
to isolate
items
derived from
Traditions I
and
II.
For
one
who is not a
philosopher
and
I
cannot claim
to be
one it
is far more
difficult
o
keep
Tradition III
and Tradition
IV
15
e.g.
Apuleius,
lorida
ii.
15.
3;
and
the various
ources ollected
y
Mullach.
There
s,
of
course,
orphyry's ife
of
Pythagoras
but this s
so
heavily
harged
with
ater
neo-Pythagoreanism,
hich
ses
any appropriateMärchenthat t is best eft ut ofaccount. Much hesamecriticism ust,
unfortunately,
e
applied
o the
Life
by
Iamblicus. Both
these
ate
writers
carry
ome
historical
etails
missing
rom
ther ources
but
the details
re
frustratingly
ard
o
dentify.
ee also
J.
Burnet,
p.
cit.,
n
thevariable
alue
of
these
ources.
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COINS
7
apart the one from he other.16Fortunatelyforthe purpose of this
paper,
I
have no
need
to make the
attempt,
for
am
concerned
only
with the
life.
The
background
formed
by
the court and
island
empire
of
Poly-
crates of
Samos is
fairly asy
to
reconstruct,
nd
this has been done
admirably by
P.
N. Ure
in the
Cambridge
Ancient
History.11Many
of the
Aegean
Islands were
under
Samian
control,
nd
in the
capital
itself
art,
poetry,
and
engineering
lourished.
The
principal
artists
working
here were the celators Theodoros
and
Rhoikos,
sons of
Telekles I, and the son ofRhoikos, Telekles II,18 also Mnesarchos19
and,
as we shall
see,
Pythagoras
himself.
The
poets
Ibycus
and
Anacreon
found
a
home at
the
court;
and the celebrated
engineer
Eupalinos,
who
constructed
the
famous
tunnel,
rediscovered
fifty
years ago,
and made the
great
mole
round the
harbour
of
Samos.
Demokedes of
Croton
came from he
west
to become court
physician
to
Poly
crates.
Commercial
relations
with
Corinth
were well
established.
When Polycratesbecame masterofSamos in 540 b.c., Pythagoras
was
probably
in
his
sixties,
and had
been
associated
some
thirty
years previously
with
Pherekydes,
the
Theolog,
son
of
Babys
of
Syros,
a thinker who
taught
the doctrine
of
metempsychosis,
or
more
correctlypalingenesia,
which
Pythagoras
himself
so
eagerly
adopted.
Yet
Pythagoras
continued
to
practise
the
art of
celature
in
which he had been
brought
up by
his
father,
Mnesarchos,
he
gem-
engraver,
s
appears
from
passage
in the
Life
by
Diogenes
Laertius.
Shortly fter540 b.c., Pythagoras,obviouslystillon good termswith
the
despot Polycrates,
acted as
his
emissary
to
Amasis,
Pharaoh
of
Egypt.
The
significant
assages
are
as
follows:
"He made
himself
three silver
goblets,
and
gave
them
away
to
each
of
the
priests
n
Egypt.
. .
.
Accordingly
he went
to
Egypt
at
that
time
when
Poly-
crates
gave
him
a letter
of
introduction
to
Amasis
and
he
learnt
their
i.e.
the
Egyptians')
language."20
From
Egypt
he
returned
o
16
See,
however,
he
brilliant
ccount
y
the
ate
Professor
M. Cornford
inG.A.H. v,pp. 544ff.alsoJ.Burnet,p.cit.17Vol.
v,
pp.
90
ff.,
nd n his
Origin f
Tyranny,
h. ii.
18
Seltman,
pproach
oGreek
rt
p.
37.
19
But Mnesarchos
as
of the
older
generation,
nd
may
have
been
dead
before
40 b.c.
20
Diog.
Laert.,
viii. 1-3.
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Samos
-
presumably
after more than
a
year's
absence
and, failing
to
hit it offwith
Polycrates,
eft
Samos
for
Magna
Graecia.
The new
point
which is
now raised
is that
Pythagoras
made
for
himself
he silver
goblets
and
was,
accordingly,
practising
celator.
Commentators,
ater
Greek, Roman,
and
modern,
have too
often
given
an
appearance
of
taking
the
following
ine:
"though
our
hero
was the
son of a
'tradesman',
and
though
Greek
fathers
taught
their sons
their
trade,
perhaps
Mnesarchos
did
not
teach
Pythagoras
Ms trade"
Nowadays
it
will,
think,
be admitted that
Mnesarchos
as a celator ranked in his own day with the othergreat ones, like
Theodoros
and
Rhoikos,
and that
the
professional
alling
of
Pythago-
ras was
one
held in
high
honour.21
With
care and
delight
he
himself
made silver
cups,
and like some
ancient
Keftian of
Crete
over 900
years
before22 took them as
gifts
to
Egypt.
Since
this
neglected
passage
surely upports
he view that
Pythago-
ras
practised
celature
himself,
must recall a
paper
written
many
years ago by Sir William Ridgeway.23In 1896 he pointed out that
"
combining
his
knowledge
of
crystallography,
gained
from
his
father's
trade,
with
that of
Egyptian
geometry,
Pythagoras
con-
ceived the
world
as
built
up
of
a
series
of
material bodies
imitating
geometric
solids".
"
Quartz-crystal
would
give
him
a
perfect
pyra-
mid and
double
pyramid";
iron
pyrites
"is
found
in
cubes massed
together";
"the
dodekahedron
is
found
in
nature in the
common
garnet";
and the
beryl
is a
cylindrical
hexagon. Pythagoras,
Sir
William
concluded,
was a
practical engraver
who could not
help
observing
these
and
many
other
natural
details
in
the
pursuit
of
his
art.
Further,
Pythagoras,
according
to
Aristotle,
declared that
the
sound
of
bronze
being
beaten
was
the
voice of some
deity
shut
up
within t.24
Who
but
a
celator
who
loved his material
would
have
made such
a
remark
Shapes
of
bronze
and silver
crystals
n
the
hands
of a
celator: it
was
Cornfordwho
remarkedthat the
Pytha-
gorean
philosophy,
n
contrast
to
the
Milesian,
was a
philosophy
of
form
as
opposed
to
matter.
21
Seltman,
p.
cit.,
nd
Masterpieces
f
Greek
oinage
pp.
8 if.
C.A.H.
ii,
pp.
275
ff.
Bossert,
ltkreta,
igs.
333-41.
16
Classical
Review,
896,
p.
92
ff.
A.
B.
Cook,
eus
ii,
p.
649
and
references
d
loc.
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And ifPythagoras was closely concerned with celature as an art
this
was
bound to affect
is
policy
and
thought
once he
foundhimself
in
a
position
of
unchallengedauthority
n
Italy.
It
is not
known
why Pythagoras, travelling
west,
should have
chosen
Croton,
rather than
Sybaris,
Tarentum,
Syracuse,
or
Naxos,
forhis new
home. There
is, however,
the fact
that he had
in
Samos
a
friend,
Demokedes of
Croton,
the court
physician,
who
could have
given
him
lettersof
ntroduction. He
sailed round
Peloponnese,
but
put
into the
gulf
and visited
Delphi
first,
proper procedure
for
one
who was to be an oikistes. There is a tradition that while there he
showed
some
interest
n
the
holy
tripod
upon
which the
Pythia
sat,
and
Apollo
himself
might
sit.25
III.
Coinage
in
the
Samian
Empire
So
Pythagoras
arrived
n
Croton
about
535
b.c.
-
say
between 537
and
533
b.c.
-
never to returnto
his home
in
Samos.
When he
got
there
the
city
was
probably
n a
trough
of
depression,having
recently
sustained, at the hands of the WesternLocrians, a seriousmilitary
defeat
on the banks of the river
Sagras
at
Caulonia,
a close
ally
of
Croton.
He came with a
great
reputation
and
his
tremendous
personality
imposed
itself almost
instantly
upon
the
Crotoniates,
to
whom
he
must have
appeared
as a veritable
emissary
of the
high gods.
He
was now
between
70
and
75,
but
full of
energy
nd
evidently
one
of
the
greatest
and most
gifted
men
in
the.
history
of the
world. It
is
not for me to write about his religio-political rganizations, nd his
profound
discoveries
in
the
realms
of
acoustics,
geometry,
and
science.
Many problems
confronted
him but
we,
as
numismatists,
are at the
moment nterested
chiefly
n the
coinage-problem
which
has been so
brilliantly
outlined
by
Sutherland
and Naster in
the
papers
already
cited.
It
has,
perhaps,
not
yet
been
remarked
hat
Pythagoras
came
from
a
country
of
few coins to another
altogether
coinless,
and
yet
per-
ceived that
something
must
be
done
about
it.
All
round
the
Aegean
one
power
after
another
adopted
coinage
the
Kings
of
Lydia,
the
25
A. B.
Cook,
p.
cit.,
.
221,
quoting
orphyry,
dubious
uthority.
ut
thevisit
o
t>elphi
s
probable
n other
rounds.
On
the
ripod
ee footnote
5
below.
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CHARLES
SELTMAN
merchant-princes
f
Ionia,
Pheidon of
Argos,Solon,
and later
Peisi-
stratos,
were concernedwith the issues of
coinage
and the
Corin-
thians,
withwhom the
Samians
were
closely
associated
in
trade,
were
prolific
moneyers. Seventh-century
amos
had had
a
coinage
of
a
kind
in
electrum.26But
it is
not at
present possible
to
assign
more
than one issue of tetrobols
o the
island for he
eighteenyears during
which
Polycrates
ruled.27
His
thalassocracy
was not a
rigidorganiza-
tion,
and
within
it,
presumably,
coin-using
states
like
Delos
and
Chios
issued their own
money.
Samos,
it
seems,
used
any
metal,
coined or uncoined, gold, electrum,or silver which came into its
market.
In
Magna
Graecia
far
away
from
ources of
silver
the
situation
was
quite
different.
omehow,
as
Sutherland
has
shown,
a stock of
silver must
be
imported,
and
subsequently
so controlled as to dis-
courage
its
re-exportation.
It
required
a man with
experience
of
Greek
money
markets to
bring
this
about,
and it also
required
a
technician.
We may reflect hat a man who willhave learnt his father's rade
of
gem-engraving,
who was the
contemporary
n
Samos
of
Rhoikos
and
Theodoros,
who
himself
made silver
goblets,
and who was
therefore
ssuredly
a
t
opevrrfs,
aelator,
celator what
you
will
was
precisely
he
man to be
successfulwith
the technical side of
this
coinage.
I
know
that it is a
daring thing
to claim
this
coinage
a
sponta-
neous invention as
his
personal
creation. But
I
am
bound
to state
that
I
have
been driven
to this
view.
And,
since
it was the
sponta-
26
E.
Babelon,
Traite
I,
i,
pp.
201
ff. nd Pl. IX.
27
Viz. B.M.C. Ionia
p.
350. 10.
The coins
ssigned
y
Babelon,
p.
cit.,
pp.
281
ff.,
o the
reign
f
Polycrates
re
surely
ater.
As there
were
ew ocal
coinshe
was
in
some
difficulty
hen
Spartan
force
esieging
amos
was
ready
o be
bought
ff.
He took
herisk f
minting
ome
pecial
oins f
ead,
coating
hem
with
gold,
nd
handing
hem
over
see
Hdt. iii.
56).
As the
besiegers
ere
partans,
hetrick
aturally
orked.Two
ofthese ead
coins,
the
gilt
coating one,
may
survive: stater
with
n
eagle
tearing
serpent
(8*37
grammes,
he
right
weight
or
Samos,
the
right
abric nd
reverse
punches).
t
is in
Boston;
K.
Regling,
atal. Warren
oll.,
no. 1769. The
second,
f
dentical
abric,
as a lion
ooking
ack
(6-56grammes:nParis,poorpreservation),bogusMilesian lazon Pl. . 1,2]. Herodotus adfifth-
century
cepticism
bout
his
tory,
ut sixth
century
partans
were
ullible.
See
also
Babelon,
oc.
cit.,
p.
219
ff.
Mr.
Jean
Babelon
nforms e
that
he
lead
piece
n
Paris s
now n a
very
ad
state f
preservation
ndhefearstwill
not ast
very
ong.
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neous
invention of a
genius, t will be found
that
in
each
of the six
principal
groups28
Croton,Caulonia,
Metapontum,29ybaris,
Taras,30
Poseidonia
the
finest
oins are in
every
nstance the
earliest,
because
they
were
so difficult
o
make,
and meticulous
care
had
to be
exer-
cised
in
the
making
of
dies,
in
their
adjustment,
and
in
coining.
"
A
spontaneous
invention . . evolved
without
any
evolutionary
development:"31
well,
almost;
but
perhaps
not
quite.
Within
the
historical
framework
which
I am
trying
to construct there
was a
coinage
of a
city,
n
the orbit of the
Samian
empire,
which
must
have
been known to
Pythagoras,
and which technicallyhas more claim
than
any
other to
stand in loco
parentis
to
the
spread
coins of
Magna
Graecia.
The
island of
Calymna
lies
fifty
miles to the
south
of
Samos
;
and
there are
some
exceedingly
rare
sixth-century
oins
[Pl.
II.
2]
which
probably
belong
to this
State.
On
the
obverse
s a bearded
head,
Ares
or
a
local
hero,
wearing
a crested
Corinthian
helmet,
eye large
and
full. The
reverse
shows a
seven-stringed
yre,
made
of tortoise-shell
and curved horns,within a neat sunk incuse cut to take the lyre's
shape.32
The standard is
peculiar,
the
two
specimens
n
the
British
Museum33
weighing
10*51 nd
10*11
grammes
Pl.
I.
3,
4].
Dr.
Head
remarked34
hat the
coins are
on the
Lydian
silver
standard of
Croesus,
and
this
pretty
well
fixes
their
issue
between
c.
560
and
546
b.c.
These coins were
succeeded,
after
very
short
nterval,
by
a
second
issue,35
which differed
rom he
first
n two
points
of detail.
On
the
28
Apart
rom hese ix
there re
the
mitative
oins
f Sirinian
yxus
see
p.
2
above),
unique roblem
iece
with
boar)
which
emains
mystery,
nd
a
Rhegian
oinwhich s
not
quite
within
he
framework
f
the
ix.
29
am
assuming
hatNoe's
Class
II is
the
earliest
see
p.
2,
n.
4 and
p.
3
above.
30
The first
oinswith
Apollo
kneeling,
ot
the
Dolphin-rider
oins
which
followed.
31
S.
P.
Noe,
op.
cit.,
.
14.
32
The
celebrated
ing
of
Polycrates
made
by
JLheodoros
as
reputed
o
have
been
ngraved
ith
lyre.
Overbeck,
ie
antiken
chriftquellen,
o.
310.
33
B.M.C. Caria,p. 188,1,2.34Loc.cit.,
.
lxxxvi. The lyreon thereverses possibly canting-type:
xéXvfiva
Babrius
115,
5)
=
x€^vri
-
lyre*
35
Represented
y
two
coins:
n
Boston,
K.
Regling,
atal.
Warren
u.,
no.
1179;
and
in the Jameson
ollection,
atal
no.
1844,
rom
he
Taranto
Hoard.
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CHARLES SELTMAN
bowl
of
the
helmet,
bove the raised
ridge,
s
a
large
letter
A.36
The
weight
s no
longer
that of
the
Lydian
silver
standard,
but
Samian-
Euboic,
forthe
coins
weigh
8-49 and
8*68
grammes
Pl.
I.
5,
6].
This
standard
had been
employed
n Samos
for electrum coins minted n
the seventh
century
b.c.,
and
may,
since the coin
is
certainly
East
Greek,
be
regardeddefinitely
s a
Samian standard.
A
cogent
reason
for
regarding
these coins with the
helmeted head
and
the seven-
stringed
lyre
as
being
struck within the
region
of
south-western
Asia
Minor,
is
the fact
that their
die-positions
are
in
every
case
regular jf . And l°ng ag°> Sir GeorgeMacdonald pointed out that
this
part
of
the
world was "the
original
home
of the mechanical
device
to
whose existence
precision
of
adjustment
testifies.
In the
coinages
of
places
like
Cnidus,
Samos,
Calymna,
and
Carpathos,
irregularity
s
virtually
unknown. There the
dies
seem to have been
fixed from he
seventh or
sixth
centuries
b.c.
onwards."37
In
any
event,
Pythagoras,
when
living
n
Samos,
must have seen
such
coins;
and
for
Asia
Minor
they
are
very
queer
coins
indeed.
This pop-eyed,big-nosedgod (or hero) is elder brother o a Peisistra-
tid
Athene of
about 540
to
530
b.c.
[Pl.
II.
I],38
and
I
have
recently
given
reasons
for
my
belief
hat
the
firstAthenian
tetradrachms
were
struck
in
566
b.c.39
They
were,
in
any
case,
the first
"
two-type"
coins
in
the
world.
Ravel
puts
the
first Corinthian
"two-type"
coins
shortly
afterwards,
bout
549
b.c.40
Croesus,
whose new
bi-
metallismtook
a
little
while
to
develop,
had his silver
n
circulation
by
about
560
b.c. : it
ceased with
his
downfall
n
546
b.c.
Into
this
framework
we
can
now fit
he "Calymna" coins and they
36
do not for
moment
elieve
hat
the
A
is
the middle
etter
f
KAA,
as
Greenwellnd
Regling
hought,
or
he
A
is far
oo
conspicuous
nd
must
label he
wearer f
he
helmet.
But
who
s
he ?
Ares,
Ankaios,
chilles,
jax
?
For the
tyle
ompare
rmed
heroes
y
the
Amasis
ainter
n
Athens,
.
550
to 535
b.c.
37
Corolla
umis
1906,
.
180.
Mr.E.
S.
G. Robinson
oints
utto
me
that
this
s not
true
or
he
arliest
ssues
f
Cnidus
where he
dies
re on
the
whole
irregular.
38
n
the
Hague:
Seltman,
thens
Hist. &
Coinage
no.
250,
Pl.
XI,
A165,
P202. In
that
work
setthe
oin
oo
ate
because
had
only
poor
ast of t.
Nowthat
havehad
an
opportunityf eeinghe oin tself ndhavereceivedan excellent irect hotographromMr.H. Enno vanGelder, prefer date
about
540 to
530
b.c.
for
t.
39
Num.
Chron.
946,
p.
97
f.
O.
Ravel,
Les
Poulainsde
Corinthe,936,
.
57.
Some
cholars
hink
his
date
rather
oo
early.
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drop ntoplace neatly somewhat ater than the earliest
"
two-type"
coins
of Athens and
having
two
issues one of
Lydian
weight
before
the
disappearance
of the
Croesean
silver-standard,
he other
Samian
in
weight.
What
is, however,
remarkable s the fact that
they
are
by
far the
earliest
East
Greek
"
two-type"
coins,
that
they
are
thin,
that
they
are from fixed
dies,
and
that
they
have a reverse
which is both
spacious
and aftera
fashion
incuse.
Accordingly,
t
may
be
that
when
Pythagoras
travelled
west,
and when
he became the
creatoror
inventor of the Italiote
coinage,
he had the
memory
of one
very
peculiar
Eastern
coinage
to
influence
his ideas.
IV. Croton
and
the
Rest
In each of
the six
principal groups
of Italiote
coins the finest
re,
as
already
stated,
the
earliest.
Yet,
within the small
group
of
the
"earliest
finest" here
s one lot which for
pure
design
and technical
perfection
surpasses
all the others the
widespread
first
coins of
Croton[PL III. 1, 2].41
On
these dies
the artist s
telling
you
about his own art
the celator
is
illustrating
celature.
In
his
youth
he too had
made
tripods
of
bronze
exactly
like the
great
tripod
of
Croton,
and he knew
with
the
knowledge
of an
expert
how
they
were
put
together.
The
principle
described
by
Sutherland42
hat
4
'thin sheets of
metal,
when
traversed
by pressure-moulded
idges
which are
correspondingly
n-
dented
on
the
under-surface,
re
remarkablyproof
against
bending
or buckling" this principle,whichgave strength o the thin coin-
disks,
was an
engineering
rinciple already applied
to
the
long
legs
of bronze
tripods.
They
have the fine tructure f
angle-girders
nd
the
same
kind of
strength.43
41
B.M.C.
Italy
p.
342.
1,
snakes n
the
cauldron;
e
Luynes
Catal.
Bib.
Nat.,
Paris),
PI.
25.
702,
nakes
mong
hefeet.
42
See
footnote
above.
43
Later
tripods ppear
to have
required
he reinforcement
í
horizontal
rings;
e.g.
de
Luynes
Catal.,Croton,
l. 26.
713, 715-24;
Syracuse,
l. 46.
1265-8; and at Abdera,Seltman,Greek oins,PI. 28. 12; Thebes, bid.,Pl. 53.2
Philippi,
bid., l. 46.6,7. From his nemust ssume hatpressure-
moulding
nd
casting
f he
egs
nd feet
ad been bandoned
n
favour f n
inferior
echnique.
The same
phenomenon
s seen
n
paintings
f
tripods
n
vases:
e.g.
on the
François
ase
(Furtwängler
eichhold,
l.
1),
tripods
s on
the
coin;
on
a
vase
by
the Berlin
Painter,
.
490
b.c.
(J.
D.
Beazley,
Der
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The two pairs ofdies illustratedon Plate III were apparentlythe
first,
r
among
the
very
first,
made for
Croton,
nd
probably
antedate
all other
coins of
Magna
Graecia.44
They
seem also to differ
n
one
important
detail
from
the
rest;
for the three
letters
?Po
upon
them have
been
hammered nto the die
with
punches
of the
shapes
O, I, >,
exactly
ike
the letters
hammered nto the side
of the famous
gold
Cypselid
bowl
in
Boston
45
The letters on coins of
Caulonia,
Metapontum,
nd
other ities ook as
though hey
had been
engraved,
rather
than
punched
with little
"
shapes"
such as
belonged
to
the
normal outfitof a celator.
I
do
not feel sure which came
next,
but think t was eitherdies for
Caulonia
or for
Metapontum
46
nor
am
I
suggesting
hat
Pythagoras
himselfmade these. Yet the
possibility
must not be
excluded
since
he
did
not have to
go
to those cities
n
order to make them
dies.
It
is
more
probable
that he had efficient
pprentices
even within
his
own
family.
When
you imagine
a
picture
of
Pythagoras
migrating
from amos
to
Croton,
do
not visualize the
lone
traveller,
he
sad
old
man, leaning over the stern of some sixth-century alley until the
cliffs
f
Samos
drop
below the
horizon.
The
truth, think,
can
be
better
magined
n
the
picture
of a
small
clan
migration
two,
three,
or more
ships,
the
patriarch
n
command, wife,
sons,
daughters-in-
law,
daughters, grand-children,
ervants, crew,
domestic
animals,
and chattels.
Long
afterthis
Apollonius
the
Arithmetician
tated47
that when
Pythagoras
had discoveredthat the
square
of
the
hypote-
nuse of
a
right-angled riangle
s
equal
to the
squares
of
the
sides
containing
the
right angle,
he
sacrificed hundred
oxen.
Here is
hyperbole
But
Apollonius
thought
of
Pythagoras
as
within
the
income-group
f those who
could afford
xtravagant
religious
obser-
vances.
Such
an
impact
as all
this on
Croton,
and
presently
on
the
other
cities,
did
produce
results when
you
remember
that
the
old
Berliner
aler,
Pl.
25),
reinforcing
orizontal
ings.
The
ong
nd
important
article
n
tripods
y
Miss
Silvia
Benton,
.S.A.
xxxv,
pp.
74
ff.,
s
concerned
almost
ntirely
ith
ripods
madebefore 00
b.c.
44
Except,
of
course,
he
"Phocaean"
coins,
.
540
b.c.,
of
purely
Asiatic
Ionian
style
minted n
Velia,
cf.
Seltman,
reek oins
pp.
79 f.
45Seltman, pproachoGreek rt,PI. 206; and C.A.H. Plates, , p. 274.
In
Sylloge
ummorum,
.
C.
Lockett
oll.,
os.
596, 97,
98,
heuse of
ittle
"shapes"
for
making
etters n the
dies s
very
lear.
46
Noe's
Class
II
;
not
his Class : see
footnote above.
47
Diog.
Laert.
viii.
11.
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FIRST ITALIOTE
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15
man
himself
was an
artist,
an
economist,
a
musician,
a mathemati-
cian,
a
linguist,
a man of
science,
a
statesman,
and
a
profound
thinker. It is no wonder that he
and his were
quickly
able to
found
the celebrated
Pythagorean
Brotherhoods
n a number of
Italiote
cities.
He
could win the affections f
his followers
o an
unusual
degree by teaching
them a
"way
of ife".48
An
attempt
to establish a
possible sequence
forthe initial ssues
of
incuse coins in these
cities
may
be
made.
If
Croton was
the
first,
about
535
to 534
b.c.,
Metapontum
and
Caulonia
could be
second
and third,bearing in mind for the latter that the type is not an
engraver's
dea of
Apollo,
but his
memory picture
of
an
actual
cult-
statue
of
the
god.
Just before
30
b.c.,
perhaps,
came the first oins
of
Sybaris,
closely
followed
by
those of
Pyxus,49
nd soon after hat the
so-called
"unofficial mitations" of
Metapontines.50
The
Sybarite
colony
of Poseidonia
may
have started
coining
near
520
b.c.,
and
on
these
again
the
picture
s
that of a
cult-statue.
By
510
b.c.,
in
which
year
Sybaris
was
destroyed,
flans
tended
to become a little
smaller,
and Crotonbroughtout a set of "victory" coinsrecording riumphs
over
Sybaris,
Pandosia,
and Temesa. It
was,
apparently, precisely
at this
time
that four
ther tates became coin-issuers
Tarentum,
he
enigmatic
Pal.
. .
.
,
Rhegium,51
nd Zankle.
The first arentine
s
the
coin with
the
kneeling
Apollo, lyre
in
hand,
for
type
and he
may
profitably
e
compared
with
a
kneeling
Herakles
engraved
on
a sard
scarab,52
dated,
on other
grounds,
to
about
510
b.c.
Last of
all,
shortly
before
500
b.c.,
came
the
coins of
Sybarite
Laos
with
their
clumsilydesignedman-headed
bull. After
this a
general shrinking
and
thickening
f flans
took
place
in
all the Italiote
cities.53
48
J.
Burnet,
arly
Greek
hilosophy,
930,
.
85.
49
See
pp.
2-3 above.
60
See
p.
3 above
ratherssues
rom
separate
mint.
51
For
Rhegium
ee
E.
S. G.
Robinson
n
J.H.S,
66,
1946,
.
18.
Pal
....
Mol
...
perhaps
o
longer
n
enigma,
i)
Recent xcavations
graves
with
imported
ttic nd
onian
pottery
.
530-20
.c.)
at
Palinurus,
est f
Pyxus,
are evidence
or town
ig nough
ohave
minted hePal
.... Mol ... coins
A.J.
A.
Iii,
1948,
.
510.
(ii)
Was
Palinurus,
elmsman
fAeneas nd
drowned
off he
Palinurian
ape,
a
kind
of
doublet
f Palaimon
Melicertes)
The
latter,withhismother,ell nto he ea from heMolurianock earMegara.
Was there
erhaps
Molurian
ock t Palinurus
own Both
dead
heroes
were
washed
p
and became
he
objects
f
underground
ult.
52
Seltman,
pproach
o Greek
rt PI. 51a.
53
t seems
mportant
o
look
t Plateswhere
hese oins
ppear
n
quanti-
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CHARLES
SELTMAN
Hitherto
some
of us
have felt it
probable
that some connexion
may
have existed
between
the
theological-philosophical
rganization
of
the
Pythagorean
communities
nd
the
queer
coins current n the
hey-day
of the
brotherhoods
nd
in
several
of their controlledcities.
Types,
borders,
nd
a
peculiar
incuse fabric
have
seemed to contain
possible
allusions.
We,
the
romantics
to whom
I
referred
t the
beginning
of this
paper,
always
felt
there could
be some link. The
coins
are
so
very
mathematical
even
arithmetical
in form
and,
as
Burnet
has
remarked,54
we sometimes
feel
tempted
to
say
that
Pythagorashad reallyhitupon the secretof the worldwhen he said,
'things
are
numbers'".
At
any
rate,
stimulated
by
Naster's
and
Sutherland's
views about
the
technique
and the economics
of
this
coinage,
I
have decided to
put
forth
he
startling
view
that the
very
first
f these
superb
coins
-
the
early
Crotoniates55
may
have been
the
personal
creation
of
the
great
celator-philosopher
imself,
ven
though
this
may
evoke
that
most
opprobrious
of all words which
can be aimed
at a scholar
"ingenious".
The death
of
Pythagoras
at
Metapontum
is
usually placed
about
509 b.c.
The
sage,
who had seemed
god-given
o the
people
of
Croton
in
535,
had
left their
city
after
exercisingpower
for
twenty
years.56
ties
n order
o
obtain
conspectus
f
types
nd
sequences.
One
ofthe
most
useful
ources
s
E.
Babelon,
raité
Pis. 65-71 also
Jean
Babelon,
e
Luynes
Catal.,
Pis.
19, 20, 25, 26;
also
the relevant
lates in
Sylloge
Nummorum,
Lloyd
Collection,
ockett
Collection,
c.
54
Op.
cit.,
.
112,
note 1.
65Symbolicallyhe ripods,for ythagoras, ostmportant,or ts ssocia-
tion
s with
Apollo,
Delos,
Delphi,
elature,
umbers,
ven musical
ound
all that
mattered
most o him. Also
note hat
Andron f
Ephesus
4th
ent.
b.c.)
wrote
book called
Tpínovs
bout a
tripod
warded
o
and
held
for
time
y
theSeven
ages
n rotation.
haïes,
irst
older,
assed
t to
another,
and
t
went
herounds
ill t
came
back to Thaïes
who hen
deposited
t
with
Apollo
t
Delphi.
Plausibilitiesnliven he
tory,
ut the ext f
Diog.
Laert.
(i.
7
ff.)
s
befuddled ith wo
other tories bout
phiale
nd
a
goblet.
One
of
the
Seven
Sages
in one list was
Pherekydes,
he teacher f
Pythagoras.
I
suspect
hat
'Tripod-holding"
as
a kindof hall-mark
f
sixth-century
sage. Pythagoras
as too
young
o have held t
in
the
original
seven-rota
tion"
buthe
or
his
disciples
or
im)
musthave aid claim o
4
'sage
status".
Is this furthereason or heCrotoniateripod assumingt to be his?
66
Diog.
Laert.viii.
25,
at the end of the
Life,
mentions
ome othermen
named
Pythagoras,mong
hem
ls
fièv
poTcovíarrjs,vpawLKÒsvdpcjTTos,
hom
I
suspect
o
be still he
great ythagoras.
n
Pythagoras
I
see theexcursus
at
theend
ofthis
paper.
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Are we to think that one who must have combined thegifts nd the
energy
of
Leonardo da
Vinci,
Mr.
Gladstone,
and
General
Booth,
was
getting
little tiresome t
the
age
of 93
?
* * *
Finally,
one
may
summarize the conclusions of
certain numisma-
tists about the coins
themselves,
and
then the
literary
vidence for
the work of
Pythagoras
as
a
celator.
(a)
Noe :
"A
spontaneous
invention
. . .
evolved without
any
evolutionary development. This is nearly true, though I
have observed a
forerunner f
c.
548
b.c.
in the
coinage
of
"Calymna"
which
ay
withinthe
thalassocracy
of
Samos.
(b)
Sutherland:
"bold
and
arresting
fabric";
"
effects f unusual
beauty";
"
special
fabric
peculiar
to
South
Italy";
excep-
tionally
careful and difficult
roduction;
"
pressure-moulded
ridges" giving
mmense
strength;
these
coins,
unfamiliar
lse-
where,
were
specially designed
to
discourage
their
export.
In
otherwordstheywere the creationofa technicaland financial
genius.
(c)
Naster:
a
marked
kinship
with
cire-perdue
echnique,
since
the
reverse-die
n
cameo
equals
the core of a hollow-cast
bronze,
while the
intaglio
obverse-die
equals
the mantle of a
hollow-
cast
bronze.
But this
seems to have been
introduced
by
Rhoikos
and
Theodoros,
contemporaries
of
Pythagoras
in
Samos.
Naster, therefore,
maintains that the coins are
the
work of a Samian
-
a
"
toreuticienmigré who accompanied
Pythagoras
in
535 b.c.
-
and he
calls
him
a
"
praticien
de
génie".57
And
now
the
literary
evidence for
the work of
Pythagoras
as a
celator
(i)
He was
son
of
Mnesarchos,
a
ring-
and
gem-engraver.
(ii)
He
himself
made
three silver
cups
to
take
to
Egypt.
(iii)
Combining
his
trade-knowledge
f
crystals
with
Egyptian
geo-
metry,he conceiveda world built ofsolids.
67
But s
this
not
ike
he xaminee
howrote
"
It has been hown hat
he
Homeric
pics
were
not written
y
Homer,
ut
by
another
man of
the
same
name"
?
VI.
X.
-2
C
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(iv)
To this one
may
add
a
fourth onsideration
oundedon a
kind
of
epitaph
written about
Pythagoras by
a
philosopher,
an
ex-Pythagorean,
of the
followinggeneration,Empedocles
of
Akragas
58
And therewas
among
them
man of rare
knowledge
who
had
won
the
utmost
wealth of
understanding,
nd was
master
of all
manner f
killed
work
"
der
mannigfacher
ünste
mächtig
war
as
Diels
translates)
59
orwhensoever
e strainedwith
ll
his
wits
he
easily
saw
everything
f
all
the
things
hat
are,
n
ten,
ven
n
twenty
ifetimes
f men.
Here is a concise
appreciation
by
an
author,
nearer
to
him
n
time
even than
Herodotus,
who
refers o his
wealth of
ideas,
his
skill in
fine
art,
and the vastness
of
his
knowledge.
It seems a little
difficult o
argue
against
the
contention
that
Pythagoras
was a
practical
artist.
Charles
Seltman
Some of my friendshave helped with apposite suggestionsand
criticisms
especially Jacqueline
Chittenden,
A.
B.
Cook,
and
E.
S.
G.
Robinson.
I
wish to
thank
Mr.
Robinson,
Mr.
Jean
Babelon,
and
Miss Edith
Marshall
for
sending
casts,
and
John
Seltman
for
some
statisticalwork on
my
behalf.
This
article was
read as a
paper
to
the
Oxford
Philological
Society
in
June
1949.
A
date chart for
the life of
Pythagoras
may
be
helpful.
It
begins
with
the
probable
date
of his
association
with
Pherekydes.
Nothing
earlier s known save the date ofhis birth n 608 b.c. Bürchner, n
Pauly
Wissowa,
R.E .
n.
i.
2214,
suggests
594
b.c. as an
alternative
date
for
his
birth,
but
with a
query.
58
quote
the
besttext
H.
Diels,
Die
Fragmente
er
V
rsokratiker
ed.
3,
vol.
i
(1912),
p.
272;
Empedocles,
rag.
129:
r¡V
4TL€V
€LVOLGLV
LVTjp
T€pLO)Oia
l8u>S
OS
t) JLT¡KLarOV
Tpa7T¿8(X)V
KTTjGCLTO
tXoVTOV
TTCLVTOLOiV€
láXiOTCL
0ÜJV
7Tl7]paVOS
pyCJV
¿7T7T¿T€
àp
ráorjMJLV
peranorpairfàeaaLV,
peť
o
ye
còv
vtcjüv
ávrojv
evooeoKev
kclotov
Kai e8¿k vOpcotcdvai clkooivicóveooiv.
59
J.
Burnet,
oc.
cit.,
p.
224,
translatesess
accurately.
oœv
pyœv
n
an
early
ifth-century
ontext
must
mean
of
skilled
works",
.g.
ike
celator's
works. on
of
Chios
c.
450
b.c.),
an
admirer
f
Pythagoras,
choed
he
phrase
in
an
elegiac
ragmentEleg.
.
15.
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All the dates in this chart are approximate.
B.C.
570.
Pherekydes
f
Syros
lor.
Pythagoras,
ged
c.
38
(or
24),
his
pupil.
566. Peisistratos.
irst
two-type"
oins.
564. Croesus
ucceeded
Alyattes, ing
f
Lydia.
560.
Croesean
ilver tandard ntroduced.
558.
Pythagoras
0
(or 36)
years
ld.
550.
Three
taliote
cities
estroyed
iris.
549.
Corinth
egan "two-type"
oins.
548.
"Calymna"
first
two-type"
oins
n
East;
Lydianweight,
Theodorosworked orCroesus.
546. End of
LydianEmpire.
544.
"Calymna"
econd
ssue;
Samian-Euboic
weight.
540.
Polycrates yrant
f
Samos.
Phocean ilver oins
n
Velia.
538.
Pythagoras
ent
o
Amasis
n
Egypt.
536.
Pythagoras
eturned rom
gypt.
535.
Pythagoras,ged
c. 73
(or 59),
eft
amos
for
Croton.
Croton
first
oins.
Metapontum,
aulonia
first
oins.
Sybaris first oins.
530. Sirinian
yxus
first oins.
Other
Metapontine
oin
groups.
525.
Spartans
ought
ff
with
gilt-lead
oins.
522.
Death of
Polycrates.
520. Poseidonia
first oins,
518.
Pythagoras
ged
90
(or 76).
515.
Pythagoras
erhaps
moved o
Metapontum.
510.
Sybaris
estroyed.
Tarentum,
al.,
Rhegium,
ankle coins.
509.
Pythagoras,
ged
99
(or 85),
died at
Metapontum.
EXCURSUS
ON
PYTHAGORAS
II
For the
sake
of
symmetry
t is worth
considering
Pythagoras
II,
commonly
alled
Pythagoras
of
Rhegium,
who,
as Mr. G.
K. Jenkins
reminds
me,
may
have
been
related to the
great Pythagoras
I.
A
similar
view
was
long
ago
mooted
by
H.
Brunn
(Geschichte
er
griech.
Künstler
i,
p.
116).
Mnesarchos
was
a
gem-
and
ring-engraver
his
son,
Pythagoras
I the
Great,
a
gem-,
silver-,
nd
bronze-worker he
had a son named Mnesarchos I who should have called a son ofhis
Pythagoras.
The
family
profession
was
ropevriK-q
celature.
Pythago-
ras
II,
one of
the
most
famous Greek
artists,
was a celator.
He worked
only
n bronze
no
marble statue
of his
has been recorded
he was
an
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CHARLES
SELTMAN
âvSpiavTOTTOLÓs,
ot
a Xidovpyós. Pythagoras
II
is almost
always
described as
"of
Rhegium",
but once
on a
statue
base
discovered at
Olympia
he set
Saynos
afterhis name
(Olympia
v,
Inschr.
144).
For
this reason
modern riticshave
suggested
hat
he could
have
migrated
to
Rhegium
n
the
company
of
other
Samians
alleged
to
have arrived
there in
493 b.c. This
supposition, anyhow,
raised
a
difficulty
for
another
tradition
Pausanias,
vi.
4.
4)
maintained that
Pythagoras
I
was
taught
by
Klearchos of
Rhegium,
and
this
same
Klearchos
was
one
of the
numerous
pupils
of
Dipoinos
and
Skyllis
(Paus.
iii.
17.
6)
whowereactive
mainly
n Peloponnesusc. 550 b.c. Accordingly, he
floruit f
Klearchos
should be
c.
525
b.c.
Now,
if
Pythagoras
II
had
only
arrived
in
Rhegium
in
493
b.c. and had
instantly
become
apprenticed
this
would have
occurred
very
late in
the
life of
Klear-
chos.
However,
we
may
now abandon
the
migration
from
Samos
theory
ltogether,
or
Mr. Robinson
has
proved
conclusively
hat
the
Samians
never
went
to
Rhegium
at all
(see
J.H.8.
lxvi,
1946,
pp.
13
ff.).
They
went to
Zankle.
Anaxilas
of
Rhegium
turnedthem
out of
Zankle and took it over himself bout 489 b.c.
If
we
were
to
assume
that
Pythagoras
II
was born
about 525
b.c.
and in
Croton
then,
after
the
death in 509
b.c. of
his
grandfather,
Pythagoras
,
he,
at the
age
of
about
16
might
have
gone
to
Rhegium
and
been
apprenticed
to
Klearchos.
On
this
assumption
Pythagoras
II
would
have
been
over 35
when he
made a
bronze
statue
of
Astylos
of Croton n
488b.c.
(Paus.
vi. 13.
1),
over
50whenhe
made in
472b.
c.a
portrait
tatue
of
Euthymos
of
Italiote
Locri
(Paus.
vi.
6.
4-6),
over
60
when
he
made
figures
f
Leontiskos
of
Messina and ofMnaseas of
Cyrene
Paus.
vi.
4.
3,
and
vi.
13.
7).
His
last
work,
a
chariot-group
for
Kratisthenes
of
Cyrene
dated to 448
b.c.
would
have
been
achieved in
his
seventies.
That
he
signed
Sábios
on
the
base
of
the
portrait
statue
of
Euthymos
in 472
b.c.
would
be
evidence
of
his
pride
in
his
father's
and
grandfather's
and
of
origin.
And
indeed,
Pythagoras
I,
who
was a
celator,
had
good
reason
to
be
proud
of
the
Samian
art
tradition
of
his
own
family
nd
of
others
ike
Theodoros,
Rhoikos,
and
Telekles.
Two criticisms fthe styleofPythagorasII can be tracedback to
Xenocrates,
a
bronze
sculptor
and
writer
of
the
Lysippean
School;
they
have
therefore
ome
value.
Realism
combined
with
rhythm
and
proportion
were
attributed
to
him.
When
an
athlete
gained
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threevictories
at
Olympia
it
was the custom
to
set
up
a
portrait
statue
of
him,
but
Pliny
(N.H.
34.
16)
does not
state
how
early
this
custom
began.
Pythagoras
I
made
in
472
b.c.
a statue of
Euthymos
after
his third
victory,
possibly,
therefore,
kind
of
portrait
statue
but
we cannot
know how
realistic,
though
realism was
ascribed
to
Pythagoras
II.
If
he
had
this
gift
t
is conceivable that he
could
have made
from
memory
quasi-realistic
portrait
f his
grandfather,
Pythagoras
I. Such
a
portrait
eems to have been known as
early
as
c.
440
b.c.,
for it was
copied
by
an
Abderite
die-engraver
for the
reverseof a tetradrachmssuedbya magistratenamed "Pythagorës"
(Seltman,
Greek
Coins
pp.
143 f. and PI. 28.
11),
and this in a
city
where
the
memory
of
Pythagoras
I
was held
in
reverence.
Yet
we
cannot
know
whether
this
"
portrait" gives anything
ike a
faithful
record
of his features.
(For
ancient
texts
on
Pythagoras
II
see
J.
Overbeck,
Antilce
Schriftquellen,
os.
490-507
;
H. Stuart
Jones,
Select
Passages
Greek
Sculpt
,
London
1895,
nos.
72-7: modem
discussions,
H.
Lechat,
Pythagoras eRhégion,Lyon 1905 A. W. Lawrence,Classical Sculp-
ture
1929,
pp.
164
f. G.
M.
A.
Richter,
Sculpture
nd
Sculptorsof
the
Greeks
1929,
pp.
151
f.)
O.S.
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