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Page 1: The Surprising Impact Stuff on the Tower has on Meteorological Data NUMUG Meeting Chicago June 2011 Jim Holian, SAIC

The Surprising Impact Stuff on the Tower has on

Meteorological Data

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Jim Holian, SAIC

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Tower, Conduit, and Equipment Impacts on

Wind Speed and Direction

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Wind-Speed Averages (Unobstructed)

Impact Hours A Avg. B Avg. Diff.

100-M

WS7433 13.9 12.8 1.4

60-M

WS7637 11.8 10.3 1.5

10-M

WS7754 7.8 7.0 0.9

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• Wind Directions from 195-245 degrees blow through tower

• Window is 25 degrees for vane and cup sensors and 30 degrees for sonic sensor

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Tower Interference

MO DY TM A100 B100 A60 B60 A10 B10 WD

4 30 12 13.0 13.4 12.9 13.0 10.7 10.6 192

4 30 13 12.3 14.6 13.0 14.9 11.9 12.4 209

4 30 14 16.6 10.8 16.4 11.8 14.5 9.7 224

4 30 15 22.3 11.9 20.5 13.3 17.9 9.8 238

4 30 16 19.4 9.5 17.9 10.8 15.3 7.8 234

4 30 17 25.8 22.4 23.1 21.1 20.2 17.1 261

4 30 18 16.5 13.2 14.2 11.6 12.1 8.8 252

4 30 19 14.7 9.3 12.4 8.4 9.7 6.1 235

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Tower Interference - A Data Bad

MO DY TM A100 B100 A60 B60 A10 B10 WD

4 30 12 13.0 13.4 12.9 13.0 10.7 10.6 192

4 30 13 12.3 14.6 13.0 14.9 11.9 12.4 209

4 30 14 16.6 10.8 16.4 11.8 14.5 9.7 224

4 30 15 22.3 11.9 20.5 13.3 17.9 9.8 238

4 30 16 19.4 9.5 17.9 10.8 15.3 7.8 234

4 30 17 25.8 22.4 23.1 21.1 20.2 17.1 261

4 30 18 16.5 13.2 14.2 11.6 12.1 8.8 252

4 30 19 14.7 9.3 12.4 8.4 9.7 6.1 235

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Tower Interference – B Data Bad

MO DY TM A100 B100 A60 B60 A10 B10 WD

4 30 12 13.0 13.4 12.9 13.0 10.7 10.6 192

4 30 13 12.3 14.6 13.0 14.9 11.9 12.4 209

4 30 14 16.6 10.8 16.4 11.8 14.5 9.7 224

4 30 15 22.3 11.9 20.5 13.3 17.9 9.8 238

4 30 16 19.4 9.5 17.9 10.8 15.3 7.8 234

4 30 17 25.8 22.4 23.1 21.1 20.2 17.1 261

4 30 18 16.5 13.2 14.2 11.6 12.1 8.8 252

4 30 19 14.7 9.3 12.4 8.4 9.7 6.1 235

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10-m Wind-Speed AveragesTower Impact

Impact Hours A Avg. B Avg. Diff.

10-M

WS-A

394 7.7 8.1 -0.4

10-M

WS-B

225 7.1 4.3 2.8

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60-m Wind-Speed AveragesTower Impact

Impact Hours A Avg. B Avg. Diff.

60-M

WS-A

364 9.8 10.3 -0.5

60-M

WS-B

285 10.5 6.6 3.9

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100-m Wind-Speed AveragesTower Impact

Impact Hours A Avg. B Avg. Diff.

100-M

WS-A

409 10.0 12.7 -2.7

100-M

WS-B

266 13.4 7.3 6.1

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Wind-Direction Averages (Unobstructed)

Impact Hours A Avg. B Avg. Diff.

100-M

WD

7375 184 182 2.6

60-M

WD

3970 184 180 3.6

10-M

WD

6148 195 189 6.7

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10-m Wind-Direction AveragesTower Impact

Impact Hours A Avg. B Avg. Diff.

10-M

WD-A

402 203 197 6

10-M

WD-B

80 243 236 7

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100-m Wind-Direction AveragesTower Impact

Impact Hours A Avg. B Avg. Diff.

100-M

WD-A

451 203 199 4

100-M

WD-B

145 240 235 5

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Electric Boxes atSensor height

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Pole Interference with Wind Speed

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Pole

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Antenna and Associated Conduit Interference with

Wind Speed

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Year Total Hours

Freq. (%)

A System (mph)

B System (mph)

Diff. (mph)

2009 1645 19.8 16.4 16.5 0.1

2007 1789 21.9 15.8 15.9 0.1

Average Wind Speed from Totally Unobstructed Directions (180°-230°)

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Year Total Hours

Freq. (%)

A System (mph)

B System (mph)

Diff. (mph)

2009 175 2.1 10.6 12.8 2.2

2007 103 1.3 11.9 13.0 1.1

Average Wind Speed Blowing Through Conduit to System A Sensor (355°-010°) with System B Sensor

Unobstructed

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Year Total Hours

Freq. (%)

A System (mph)

B System (mph)

Diff. (mph)

2009 145 1.8 12.3 13.7 1.4

2007 117 1.4 13.1 13.4 0.3

Average Wind Speed Blowing Through West Antenna to System A Sensor (345°-355°) with

System B Sensor Unobstructed

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Year Total Hours

Freq.

(%)

A System (mph)

B System (mph)

Diff. (mph)

2009 293 3.5 10.4 11.1 0.7

2007 199 2.4 11.3 12.7 1.4

Average Wind Speed Blowing Through West Antenna and Conduit to System B Sensor (010°-

025°) with System A Sensor Obstructed by Tower

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Year Total Hours

Freq. (%)

A System (mph)

B System (mph)

Diff. (mph)

2009 666 8.0 11.5 9.9 -1.6

2007 495 6.1 13.4 11.5 -1.9

Average Wind Speed Blowing Through South Antenna to System A Sensor (040°-060°) with

System B Sensor Obstructed by Tower

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Year Total Hours

Freq. (%)

A System (mph)

B System (mph)

Diff. (mph)

2009 920 11.1 14.1 13.5 -0.6

2007 654 8.0 13.9 13.7 -0.2

Average Wind Speed Blowing Through South Antenna to System B Sensor (065°-085°) with

System A Sensor Unobstructed

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Tower Interference with No Additional Equipment and

Limited Conduit

Dedicated Met Tower Concept

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Wind-Speed Averages – A System in Tower Wake

Impact Hours A Avg. B Avg. Diff.

10-M

WS162 4.6 4.5 0.1

60-M

WS97 4.1 4.7 -0.6

100-M

WS45 5.2 6.5 -1.3

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Wind-Speed Averages – B System in Tower Wake

Impact Hours A Avg. B Avg. Diff.

10-M

WS106 6.8 6.9 0.1

60-M

WS292 6.4 6.1 -0.3

100-M

WS189 7.2 7.1 -0.1

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What Caused 100-Meter Impact of 1.3 MPH?

• Close Review of data indicated almost 3 mph difference with wind directions from 339-347 degrees..

• This accounted for nearly all of the difference at the 100-meter level.

• Large Beacon Light is on north tower leg at top of tower.

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Conclusions

• Tower wake, equipment, and conduit have no measurable impact on wind direction.

• Greatest impact is on wind speed. Differences up to 10 mph seen at wind speeds above 20 mph.

• Obstructions such as antennas, beacons, and associated conduit have measurable impacts.

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Conclusions (cont’d)

• Dedicated meteorological towers have significantly less equipment and conduit and therefore have less interference.

• Having dual systems on separate faces of the tower appears to minimize wake effects due to spreading out of conduit, bracing, etc

• The data suggests that the sonic sensors may be influenced less by tower wake – not convinced.

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