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Page 1: The thesis and viva voce by Christopher Teh Boon Sung, Ph.D. Fac. of Agriculture, UPM christopherteh.com christeh@yahoo.com Tel: 03-89474858

The thesis and viva voceThe thesis and viva voce

by Christopher Teh Boon Sung, Ph.D.Fac. of Agriculture, UPM

[email protected]

Tel: 03-89474858

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• You can download these slides from:• www.christopherteh.com/thesis-and-viva-voce.ppt

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What is viva voce?What is viva voce?

• Literally, "viva voce" means “by the living voice” or “by word of mouth”

• Today viva means oral examination – thesis defense

• The final hurdle of your postgraduate research degree

• No marks given for viva but it is used to evaluate the worth of your work and thesis

http://rahmitanotes.blogspot.com/2008_06_01_archive.html

Mohd. Said Bashir defending his thesis on Apr 19, 2008

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Purpose of viva vocePurpose of viva voce

• The purpose of the viva is to validate your thesis and show the examiners:• that the thesis is your own work • that you understand what you have done and

written• that you are aware where your work sits in relation

to the wider research field • that your work is of sufficiently high standard (in

terms of scientific rigor and writing maturity)• that you can defend your work in response to the

examiners' questions

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Who are in the viva?Who are in the viva?

• Examiners• 1 external examiner (may not be present)• 1 or 2 internal examiners• 1 chairperson

• The candidate (you!)• Your supervisor and co-supervisors

• one or more of them may not be present

http://education.exeter.ac.uk/images/mtl_viva_1.jpg

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External examinerExternal examiner

• Expert in the field of the candidate’s research• Must be from outside UPM• Can be from

• local universities – for MSc only• foreign universities – MSc and PhD

• For foreign students, examiner from the same nationality is not recommended

• Must have at least 10 significant journal publications in your field of work

• Must graduate at least 1 student at the same level of your degree

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• Not involved in your work/research• e.g., any joint publications can be problematic

• May not attend your viva• Foreign external examiners rarely attend• Local external examiners may come especially if

one of the internal examiners is unable to attend your viva

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Internal examinersInternal examiners

• One or two examiners from within UPM• Masters – 1• PhD – 2

• Have expertise your field of study• Can sometimes be more strict than the external

examiner!

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ChairpersonChairperson

• Have graduated at least one postgraduate student • Not necessarily has the expertise in your field of

research• Duties include to

• moderate/coordinate the discussion/examination• ensure all examiners’ questions are adequately

answered by the candidate• NOT become an examiner!

• but the person can ask questions on behalf on the external examiner based on the examiner’s report if the examiner is not present

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Supervisor and co-supervisorsSupervisor and co-supervisors

• They are invited to attend the viva, but their attendance is optional

• They will come and sit and listen but they will not actively participate in the discussion unless asked by the examiners or chairperson

• Do not depend on your supervisors or co-supervisors to bail you out of tough questions!• reflects badly on you as it shows you cannot

defend your work well• Do not become angry if they do not attend your viva• It is your thesis defense, not theirs

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Selection of viva committeeSelection of viva committee

• Candidate can suggest names for the viva committee, but ultimately, the main supervisor must ask and appoint the examiners and chairperson

• Choose the best people who can understand, correct, and improve your work

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What happens during a viva?What happens during a viva?

• A 20-minute oral presentation of your work• Focus on:

• Problem and justification of study• Objectives• How you did your work• Results – what you obtained/observed• Discuss/explain your results• Conclusion – not a summary!

• Integrate review of literature with the above rather than have a separate section on literature review

• Avoid a lengthy presentation

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Q & AQ & A

• Key areas examiners will evaluate your work:• Is the problem of study clear and important?• Are the study’s objectives clear, achievable, and

sufficient?• Are the methods used sufficient ?• Are the results clear, sufficient, and important?• Can the results be explained clearly and

sufficiently?• Have the study’s objectives been achieved?• Is the scientific work robust/rigorous?• Is the level of work sufficient for the awarded

degree?• Are the presentation of work and writing in thesis

adequate?

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Thesis Acceptance/rejection Thesis Acceptance/rejection categoriescategories

• Accepted with distinction• minimal corrections needed for spelling, grammar,

and syntax• met all criteria for award (e.g., no. of publications

and number of credits)• 15 days for correction

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• Accepted with minor modifications• reformatting of chapters• revision of literature and/or objectives• correction of references• minor spelling, grammar, and syntax errors• 30 days for correction

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• Accepted with major modifications• extensive revision of thesis to improve quality• re-analysis of data• removal of chapters• re-discuss your results• major corrections in spelling, grammar, and syntax• 60 days for correction

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• Oral re-examination (Re-viva voce)• fails the first viva voce• second viva and final viva to be conducted within

60 days• Re-submission of thesis

• scope of degree not met• objectives not met• serious flaws in methodology and analysis• requires additional experiments or data collection• 2 semesters or 1 year for res-submission (repeat

the whole thesis submission and viva process)

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• Re-submission of a PhD thesis as a Masters thesis• scope of work not suited at a PhD level• 60 days for correction

• Fail/rejected• very serious flaws in work• plagiarism detected

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Appeal against viva decisionAppeal against viva decision

• You can appeal a decision by the viva committee if you think it is incorrect• Fill in the relevant form from SGS and provide

supporting documents for your appeal• The following criteria is included for appeal cases to

be considered:1.At least one member of the supervisory committee

is present at the viva2.Appeal letter is officially submitted by the

supervisor.3.No scientific misconduct such as plagiarism,

falsification of data, cheating has occurred.

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4. There is evidence to support case including report (s) from independent expert opinion, journal papers (preferably ISI papers), if relevant.

5. Evidence of conflict of interest by examiners is provided, if relevant.

6. Contradicting statements on the outcome of the examination in the report by Chair of Examination Committee, if relevant.

• Note: Criteria 1, 2 and 3 are compulsory. In addition either criteria 4 or 5 or 6 is also required for SGS to consider the case.

• Deadline for submission of appeal letter is one month after viva date.

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Minimum no. of publicationsMinimum no. of publications

• For GRF (Graduate Research Fellowship) holders:• PhD level - 2 journal publications (or accepted)• MSc level - 1 journal publication (or accepted)

• For others:• PhD level - 1 journal publication (or accepted) and

1 article submitted• MSc level - 1 journal submitted

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Correcting your thesis (after the Correcting your thesis (after the viva)viva)

• You can ask for extension for thesis correction but for not reasons regarding busy work schedule or insufficient time given

• Make ALL corrections as requested by your examiners – do not pick and choose which corrections you want to do• Corrections based on examiners’ and

chairperson’s reports and corrections written in your thesis copy

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• You can see/contact your examiners to resolve any• contradictory corrections suggested by two or

more examiners• unclear corrections or comments• disagreement with the corrections

• give your reasons for your disagreement• but ask yourself first: “Was my

writing/explanation/presentation unclear?”

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Final thesis preparationFinal thesis preparation

• Guidelines and forms can be downloaded from SGS website• www.sgs.upm.edu.my/THESIS

• NEW guidelines since Jan 2014:• Submit your thesis in double spacing for ease of

corrections by the viva committee, but in final form, your thesis must be prepared• in single spacing and printed on both sides of

paper• but in double spacing for between paragraphs

and sections• using 80 g paper

• Check other requirements as listed in the SGS website

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Preparing for your vivaPreparing for your viva

• Go through your thesis and anticipate the questions you can be asked during the viva

• All questions will be related to four general areas:• What is it about? • What did you do? • What did you find? • Why does that matter?

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• Find out who are your examiners• What are their research background and

expertise?• What have they published, and mostly in what

field?• Read some of their articles to understand their

interest• Ask your supervisory committee as some of them

might familiar with one or more of your examiners• Prepare a 20-minute presentation and run it through

your supervisory committee for their feedback• If possible, prepare a mock/trial viva with your

supervisory committee

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• Bring supporting documents (books, publications, photos, saved website information) into your viva in case you need them to defend your work• documents preferably in softcopies for easy

retrieval• Bring pen and paper!

• to jot down the examiners’ comments• Do not discuss your viva or your thesis with any of

the examiners prior to your viva

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During your viva …During your viva …

• Some examiners, unfortunately, can conduct their examination as if they are challenging you• some personalities are more prone to such an

approach• Do not take offence

• A relaxed, thoughtful, and non-confrontational response from you will help rebalance the discussion

• What happens when you think the examiners have misinterpreted/misunderstood your work?• Do not be so quick to blame the examiners• Ask yourself:

• Was your explanation clear?• Did you accidentally omit important information?

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• What happens when you think the examiners have misinterpreted/misunderstood your work?• Do not be so quick to blame the examiners• Ask yourself first:

• Was your explanation in your thesis clear?• Did you accidentally omit important

information?• Evaluate the validity of the examiners’ comments• Explain to clear up misunderstandings

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• Avoid• giving a general, resigned declaration that "this

happens in every study" • blaming your supervisors or university• blaming your data or situation but without sufficient

problem solving efforts• do not lie, be evasive, or “talk in circles”• do not use the argument that “it is like that” or that

defend your work simply on the basis of your “many years of experience”

• saying "that was beyond the scope of my study" without giving a convincing argument to support the statement

• dismissing as unimportant what has been identified as a weakness in your study

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• Do not take criticisms of your work personally • do not take offence, be defensive, be offensive, or

be angry

http://drprem.com/love/defensive-people

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• Instead,• be confident and eager to share your work• take time to consider before replying • remember to breathe and speak reasonably slowly • enjoy the opportunity to talk about your research

• No time limit for viva but it often lasts between one to three hours

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ResourcesResources

• Uni. Putra Malaysia Thesis• http://www.sgs.upm.edu.my/THESIS

• Your viva voce exam by Uni. of Leicester• www2.le.ac.uk/departments/gradschool/training/

eresources/study-guides/viva/print• The viva voce exam by Uni. of Sheffield

• www.shef.ac.uk/medicine/current/postgraduates/viva

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THANK YOUTHANK YOUGood luck!