the us, the biggest bully in the world [drone killings]

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The U.S govt and media are the biggest bullies in the world. Dronekillings - Media: names and address of gun owners in N.Y. online.

Posted by Sherrie | Wednesday, December 26, 2012

The U.S. government is the biggest bully in the world. Not just toother countries in the world but to the citizens of the U.S. too.

Let's stop to think about what the U.S. government does around theworld.

First the government kills women and children all the time throughdrone attacks. They do this indiscriminately. The U.S. governmentdoes this even without the approval of the countries they are killingthe people in. The U.S. doesn't care about the sovereignty ofanother country. I have been researching drone attacks in Pakistanand how many innocent men, women and children the U.S. has


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killed. (I am going to include some of the research and information atthe bottom of this article)

It really is sad to see a country that was suppose to be the shininglight of humanity when it was formed with equal justice for all. Yet thecountry has degraded so badly due to the morals of theleaders/elected officials.

We were suppose to be a place that other countries and people couldlook up to as an example of moral and ethical leadership and how thepeople of the country were free, yet worked for the benefit of all ofmankind.

The U.S. as it stands today has become the most immoral country

with the least ethical leaders of the world.

Through torture, jailing people without any rights or justice in acourtroom (including U.S. citizens), invading other countries, killingthe innocent people including children without thought or remorse,poisoning it's own citizens through the air, water and food andbullying it's own citizens to get it's way.

Now... there is that term "Like begets Like."

The government has become a bully, yet they are shocked whencitizens of the U.S. act out in a violent manner. I don't believe peopleshould act out in violence at all, but I also don't pretend to be "holierthan thou" either, like the U.S. government does.

How did the country come to believe that we are the ones with therights to all things in the world and to hell with the rest of the peopleof the world?

The U.S bullies it's citizens and creates a mind set through the mediaof "peer pressure." They did this with those who smoke cigarettes, tothe point of smokers hiding to smoke. In N.Y. and California, youcan't even smoke in the opened air hardly. It doesn't not matter if youagree with smoking or not... the fact is the U.S. became a bully tothose who do. FYI - I have researched about smoking and it is notall that it has been made to be. The facts are what causes cancer


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are all the 3000 additives the big corps put in. If people smoked puretobacco without additives.. then it is actually good for you in manyways. Don't just believe me... do some research yourself. Also atthe time of the big push against smokers, is when they beganchemtrails in the 80's. (Smoke coats your lungs so you don't absorba lot of the poisons)

Now with the gun issue, the government and media are going toattempt to do the same thing with gun owners. Where gun ownerswill hide the fact they have guns. They are using the media to goafter legal gun owners, to make them ashamed of owning a gun. It isexactly what they did with smokers.

A media outlet decided to risk people's lives and safety by putting an

interactive map of law abiding citizens who have a legal right andpermit to own a gun. The address and names of all of those U.S.citizens in 3 counties in New York are on the net. They are there forany robber or desperate person to get a hold of a gun, to break in.


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But what the base of this is, is to bully those who are law abidingcitizens who utilize their 2nd amendment of the constitution to have agun. They are trying to get people to give up their guns through"embarrassment." [I will again say, this is exactly what they did withsmokers. Many gave up smoking due to the peer pressure and beingostracized for smoking 1].

What that media outlet has done is one of the biggest bullying tacticsand they may have caused people to lose their lives in the future bydoing so. I can only hope that all of those people who are on the mapwith their names and addresses will have their guns next to them atnight now. There may be shootings in defense of themselves inhouses around N.Y.

If people view things with a clear and honest vision, they will see thatthe U.S. government and media is the bully in the school yard thattalks out of both sides of their mouth.

Children learn through their peers and parents as they are growingup, what is right and wrong. They learn how to treat others throughtheir experiences and culture. Is there any wonder there is moreviolence now in the world, when the U.S. kills innocent people aroundthe world and invades countries? All anyone has to do is look at whatthey are being taught by those that are suppose to uphold the moralsand ethics of the country. Is there any wonder that kids think it isokay to bully another, when the U.S. government does it to the rest ofthe world? Is it any wonder that kids think violence is okay over all,when the U.S. commits violent acts around the world? Is there anywonder that people think they can get away with crimes when all thebankers that have committed fraud are free and never prosecuted?

The media acts so outraged when someone does something in theU.S. of a violent nature.

Isn't it time that the U.S. government and media

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look in the mirror to view themselves?

I have never played a violent game that I see advertisements on allthe time... I am not a "gamer." I personally don't see how someonecan find killing lots of people in a game as being fun. I do have aquestion, how does someone distinguish what is real or fiction whenthey spend hours and hours in those role playing games of killingothers?

It is up to each of us to recognize bullying when we see it.


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It is up to each of us to not be a part of itand speak out against bullyingby an individual, government, media or peer group.

We have to stand up to bullying and it seems that the U.S.government and media gets what they want through bully tactics.Don't forget that the U.S. government is now using dronesinsides the U.S.. I have no doubt at some point they will justifybombing their own citizens and the media of course will have theirback in convincing people why it should be done.

Don't think that will happen? Let me ask you this... did you ever thinkthat owning a gun would become like smoking where you have tohide that fact and be "ashamed" of it due to government and mediapressure?


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Regarding Drones there have been studies done in regards to howmany people have been killed by drones and if drones really hit theirtargets or simply kills innocent men, women and children.

Last week an article came out "Confessions of a Drone Operator."2

The guy quit after he killed an innocent child, yet another person thatwas part of the government called that child a "dog."

It makes you stopand contemplate... 3

how did the moralsin our government go so far downto call a child a dog?

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I began researching dronesand what the U.S has doneand how many childrenhave been killed last week.

The U.S. has continually jeopardized other countries sovereignty by

using drones to kill the citizens of the country. You have to wonderwhat would happen if another country felt it was there right to usedrones inside the U.S. boundaries to kill people they said were athreat to their country? We know that a war would start as the U.S.would scream and shout that the country that is using the droneswould be committing "acts of war." The U.S. would be the typical bullyin that they can do as they want but don't turn the tables on them...then it is "unfair and unjust."

There is this site of the stories of the victims of U.S. drone attacks. 4

Here is the information about a village and innocent people killedfrom a U.S. drone attack. 5

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As of August 2011 an estimated 168 innocent children have beenkilled by the United States government and they have not onceapologized for it. 6

Where are the morals and ethics of that?

The Columbia Law school did an extensive study about U.S. droneattacks and their impact on the countries and citizens that wereattacked.

It is 83 pages long but I have taken segments out of it that I believeare important to this discussion and understanding of what the U.S.has and is doing.

You will find that it is the CIA and the JSOC that do not have to admitwhat they do nor is there oversight to their killing anyone theywant. They don't answer to the military nor anyone else, except tothe President.

Oh another thing, I did not realize how extensively the U.S. usingdrones around the world and in many countries. It is not just Pakistanand Afghanistan that drones are used.

Here are excerpts from the article:

In locations such as northern Pakistan, where drones often buzzoverhead 24 hours a day, people live in constant fear of beinghit.125 Michael Kugelman of the Woodrow Wilson

International Center for Scholars notes:

I have heard Pakistanis speak about children in the tribalareas who become hysterical when they hear the characteristicbuzz of a drone. [] Imagine the effect this has on psyches, and

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particularly on young ones already scarred by war anddisplacement. 126

Unlike deaths and property loss, which may affect one or morefamilies, the fear associated with covert drone strikes affects nearlyeveryone in a community.

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The information included here is not comprehensive, as despite publicand repeated allusions to covert drone strikes by ObamaAdministration officials in 2011 and 2012, most official materialsrelated to the drone program are classified. Even the existence of aCIA drone program remains classified, although government officialshave repeatedly leaked information to the media.2

In our interviews with government officials, most were unwilling tospeak about drone operations outside of Afghanistan. The persistentgovernment secrecy on this issue, particularly surrounding theinvolvement of the CIA and JSOC, leads us to term drone strikesoutside of Afghanistan as covert. In this report, we use covert inthe colloquial, rather than legal sense.3

Until 2006, the US reportedly notified the Pakistani government before launching strikes.62

Since that time, the Pakistani government has publicly signaled itsrejection of drone strikes as a violation of sovereignty, but there arenumerous reports of its consent to continuing strikes.63

In spring 2012, the US increased the frequency of drone strikes,reportedly out of concern that the CIA would soon need to haltoperations due to the opposition of the Pakistani government.64

The degree of Pakistani government cooperation, includingintelligence and surveillance support, may be diminished at present.65

US strikes in Yemen increased in spring 2012, with between 15 and62 reported strikes, more than in the previous ten years combined.75

Media reports suggest that JSOC personnel are on the ground in

Yemen, coordinating the drone strikes. US officials state that currentdrone strikes are only carried out with Yemeni governmentapproval.76

However, in 2011, during a period of political turmoil andgovernment transition in Yemen, the United States reportedlyconducted strikes without approval.77


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It remains unclear which agency takes operational lead or under whichagencys legal authority the operations are conducted.78

In 2011, unnamed Obama Administration officials described JSOCand CIA operations as closely coordinated but separatecampaigns.79

Some 2011 media accounts described US operations as run by JSOC, but with CIA assistance.80

According to one account

CIA and JSOC alternate Predator missions in Yemen

and borrow each others resources. 81

JSOC commanders

appear on videoconference callsalongside CIA station chiefs .82

The scale of drone strikes in Somalia is still unknown, but appears to be increasing. A Bureau of Investigative Journalism study estimated between ten and 21 US airstrikes in Somalia as of publicationthreeto 12 of which may have been drone strikes. According to the Bureau,the strikes resulted in between 58 and 169 deaths.89

The UN Monitoring Group on Somalia and Eritrea stated in late June2012 that

the number of reports concerning the use ofUnmanned Aerial Vehicles in Somaliain 2011-12 has increased.90

As a sampling of figures:

In Somalia, the Bureau of Investigative Journalism reports that since2007, US covert actionsincluding operations other than dronestrikeshave resulted in the death of 58 to 169 individuals as ofSeptember 2012, of which 11 to 57 were civilians.101


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In Yemen, the New America Foundation reports that drone strikeskilled 531 to 779 people, with a civilian casualty rate between 4% and8.5%, as of June 2012.102

In Pakistan, statistics are compiled by both Pakistan-basedorganizations and foreign organizations, and they vary.103 TheBureau of Investigative Journalism reports a total of 2,562 to 3,325total killed in drone strikes, including 474 to 881 civilian deaths as ofSeptember 2012.

Increasing Violence & Instability

Some commentators are concerned that drones may actually becontributing to an increase in violence in Pakistan and Yemen,although studies are not conclusive and some observers disagree.Since the drone program in Pakistan began, there has been an increasein deaths due to terrorist incidents, peaking at 2,500 civilians killed in2011, according to the US State Departments NationalCounterterrorism Center.113

This increase appears to predate the escalation of drone strikes in2008; we are not aware of a study that conclusively demonstrates acausal link between drone strikes and increased violence. To thecontrary, some commentators argue that drone strikes have correlatedwith a slight decrease in violence.114

The conflicting evidence illustrates the confusion over theeffectiveness of the US counterterrorism strategy, and the imperativefor US policymakers to questionand fully and adequately clarify the impact of covert drone operations on the ground, including the

changing impact over time.

Drone strikes have also hit many homes in Yemen.133

Strikes have contributed to ongoing violence, which has led tothe displacement of over 100,000 people.134


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Displacement impacts every layer of civilian life and threatens thestability of the community.

An airstrike in Jaar, a town in southern Yemen, reduced an entire block to rubble in two consecutive explosions; however, whetherthestrike was by the US or Yemeni government is unknown.135

According to media reports, the threat or prevalence of drone strikesin Yemen and Pakistan mean some parents are unwilling to send theirchildren to school out of fear.138

In Pakistan, there have been several reports of drone strikes that havedamaged or destroyed local schools.139

Usman Wazir was at his job selling fruits when a drone hit his house,killing his younger brother, his wife, their 15-year-old son, and 13-year-old daughter. He told the Center

I demand compensation for each member of my familyand demand that my house is rebuilt. 143

For civilians who demand justice for such losses, there is no known process in Pakistan, Yemen, or Somalia by which they can apply forcompensation or file a claim of personal loss. This is compounded bythe fact that the existence of the drone program has for so long beenofficially denied by the US government.

Events following one particular drone strike illustrate the complexitiesof deciphering an accurate story of civilian harm. On August 23,2010, a CIA strike reportedly killed at least seven civilians inPakistan. Unnamed US officials repeatedly told media for a year afterthis incident that there were no civilian deaths from drone strikes:

Demand for drone pilots and other personnel will only increase as theUS continues to rely on this technology; indeed, in 2011 the demandreportedly prompted the Air Force to consider having pilots controlfour planes at once.249


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These operators spend their days and nights on deceptive and deceitfultasks that violate foreign and some international laws as well aseveryday ethics. They are constantly reminded that whatever otherrules and laws they must violate in their work, they must not violateUS law.312

International lawparticularly the laws of warwould require theCIA to take steps to reduce civilian harm in using force, but observersdebate whether the CIA sees itself as bound by it. The statements ofgovernment officials have been ambiguous.308

In a major address, Preston described the CIAs compliance withinternational law principlesas opposed to rules or treaty

provisions. [To be fair, the same can be said of remarks by his

counterparts at other agencies.309] Some observers speculate that theCIA interprets statutory provision 50 USC section 413b[a][5]

which prohibits the president from authorizing any action that wouldviolate the Constitution or any statute of the United States asfreeing the CIA from international law obligations, since it omitsmention of them.310

A US Army colonel notes that

the Department of Defense is legally bound to execute itsmilitary operations in accordance

with the laws of armed conflict;

the CIA, however, is under no similar requirementregarding international law. 311

As watchdogs in the form of journalists and human rights

organizations struggle to garner factual information in the relativelyinaccessible areas where covert drones strikes occur, the public isespecially reliant on Congress to take the lead in scrutinizing theCIAs actions.

Yet Congresss obligation extends further: to contribute to publicdebate. As former CIA lawyer and minority staff director for the


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House intelligence committee Suzanne Spaulding emphasizes,Congress has the responsibility

to inform and lead public discussion and debate particularly about how best to address the long term threatof terrorism. 339

There are established procedures for Congress to declassify and publicize previously secret information, but these procedures havereportedly never been employed, and certainly not with regard tocovert drone strikes.340

JSOC camouflages itself with cover names, black budgetmechanisms, and bureaucratic parlor tricks to maintain its

secrecy.342

Indeed, the official description of JSOC is confusing, mentioning ahost of roles:

to study Special Operations requirements, ensure...interoperability and equipment standardization, develop... jointSpecial Operations plans and tactics, and conduct... jointSpecial Operations exercises and training

These descriptions make no mention of JSOCs targeting or droneoperations.343

The entirety of JSOCs relationship to the conventional military forcesand its rules is unknown. As a general matter, US Special OperationsCommand [SOCOM] provides special forces units to geographiccommands.

Once those forces are in a geographic combatant

commanders area of responsibility, they work for thatcommanderunder the same rules as other forces,

a SOCOM officer told the Columbia Human Rights Clinic byemail.344


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However, there are indications that JSOC operates independently ofthe conventional military forces geographic combatant commandsand that it has its own rules of engagement.345

Unfortunately, there is so much secrecy about JSOCs operations thatit is difficult to evaluate whether, and to what extent, JSOCsrelationship to the law and mechanisms to reduce civilian harmcontinues to be problematic. This lack of transparency is compounded

by JSOCs relative freedom from congressional scrutiny. As journalistMarch Ambinder notes

many in Congress whod be very sensitive to CIA operationsalmost treat JSOC as an entity that doesnt have to submit tooversight. 361

Covert drone strikes enjoy wide political support as an attractivealternative to counterinsurgency strategies that cost significant US

blood and treasure in Iraq and Afghanistan.383

As the Administration seeks to counter a growing number of groups itdescribes as al-Qaeda affiliates in a growing number of places aroundthe globe, it may view strikes as an alternative to adding multiple newland-war fronts in the Middle East and Africa.

Policymakers appear comfortable and confident that surgical dronestrikes conducted by the CIA and JSOC will disrupt militant groupsand prevent terrorist plots, and increasingly favor this strategy overalternative means to establish security or set conditions for peace.384

In February 2012, the Bureau of Investigative Journalism reported thatat least 50 individuals were killed in follow-up drone strikes inPakistan when they had gone to help victims killed in initialstrikes.416

There are also reports of strikes killing rescuers in Yemen.417

There is a lot more in the site linked. The above shows there is notaccountability for the U.S. and they kill as they please.


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We the people, in the United States are moral people on a whole.We need to start demanding our government become moral andethical as it was meant for them to be. We need to show the worldthat we do not support killing innocent men, women and children ofthe world.

If we keep allowing it without saying something.... then how can weraise our voices when they start doing it to their own citizens on U.S.soil if we did not raise our voices about them doing it elsewhere?

How do we change what is happening?

That is one big question... because how do we each try and makethat difference? How do we each stand up and show the correct

morals and ethics to the bully and hope that the example becomesthe norm?

We need to demand morals and ethics once more as part of ourfoundation of the United States. We need to demand the electedofficials stop bullying the world and their own citizens through theTSA, police states and drone spying.

I know that is asking a lot but in having compassion for the rest of theworld's people, we will begin to have compassion for ourselves andothers around us once more.


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