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Thomas Turner Reserve Master PlanStage 2 Consultation Summary Report
April 2018
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Contents
Background 5
The Project 6
Role of this Report 6
What did we do 6
Consultation Responses
Surveys 8
Individual Submissions 16
Second Park Day 20
Sports Club Feedback 21
Conclusions and Recommendations 24
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Background
The Project Area
Thomas Turner Reserve is a large open space and established recreation reserve located on the corner of Nelson and Grand Junction
Roads in Valley View. Situated within the City of Port Adelaide Enfield, the Reserve is located adjacent to the borders of the City of Tea Tree Gully and the City of Salisbury and is highly valued by the local and regional communities.
The Dry Creek corridor is a key feature of the Reserve, featuring large Eucalyptus trees and a shared linear path. The site’s topography presents both a constraint and opportunity.
The Reserve includes three playing fields that are licensed by Council to sporting clubs for soccer and cricket. One of the fields has flood lighting.
There are two small buildings that provide basic change room facilities.
The Reserve also features a par-three golf course, driving range and a heritage listed house, all of which are held under commercial leases from Council. In addition to organised sport, there is significant passive usage of the Reserve by people who are walking, exercising dogs and using the playground and other facilities.
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Project Vision
Analysis
The VisionThe overall vision for Thomas Turner Reserve (TTR) is to create a high quality park which caters to the needs of the local residents, visitors and sporting stakeholders and respects the existing landscape.
The SiteThomas Turner Reserve is a large open space and established recreation reserve located on the corner of Nelson and Grand Junction Roads in Valley View. Situated within the City of Port Adelaide Enfield, the Reserve is located adjacent to the borders of the City of Tea Tree Gully and the City of Salisbury and is highly valued by local and regional communities.The Dry Creek corridor is a key feature of the Reserve, featuring large Eucalyptus trees and a shared linear path. The site’s topography presents both a constraint and opportunity.The Reserve includes three playing fields that are licensed by Council to sporting clubs for soccer and cricket. One of the fields has flood lighting. There are two small buildings that provide basic change room facilities.The Reserve also features a par-three golf course, driving range and a heritage listed house, all of which are held under commercial leases from Council.In addition to organised sport, there is significant passive usage of the Reserve by people who are walking, exercising dogs and using the playground and other facilities.
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The Project
The City of Port Adelaide Enfield has prepared a Master plan for Thomas Turner Reserve. The intent is that the Master plan will help guide future upgrades, enhance connections within and through the site and provide residents, sports groups and visitors with a high quality park to recreate and spend time.
The first stage of consultation was undertake October-December 2016 and included consultation with the sports clubs which hold leases over the sporting facilities as well as the local community. These responses were used to develop a Draft Master plan. The Draft Master plan is included in Appendix A.
The draft Master Plan identifies a number of proposals divided into staged Landscape Master Plans, namely:
• Year 1 – 5 (shorter-term);• Year 5 – 10 (medium-term);• Year 10+ Option A (longer-term); and• Year 10+ Option B (longer-term).
A second round of consultation was undertaken in November 2017 - March 2018 to present the draft master plan back to the sports clubs and the local community and to get feedback on the suggested project outcomes and to inform the finalisation of the master plan.
Role of this Report
This report has been developed to summarise the engagement process and the responses from the second stage of consultation for the draft master plan. It will ultimately provide some key recommendations for the final master plan based on community feedback.
Background
What did we do
The following engagement activities were undertaken to gather feedback from stakeholders and the community on the Draft Master plan:
1. A Community ‘Park Day’ at the reserve2. Face to face meetings with key stakeholders and user
groups of the site3. A community survey (‘mail out’ and online versions)4. Project web page5. Signage at five key locations around the reserve6. Promotion on Council’s social media7. Advertisements in local Messenger newspapersRefer Appendix B for Consultation material
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Consultation Responses
Surveys
There was a total of 53 survey completed, consisting of 42 hardcopies and 11 online surveys. The majority of survey respondents were residents of the City of Port Adelaide Enfield (60%) followed by the City of Tea Tree Gully (22%) and then the City of Salisbury (9%).
Survey respondents were predominately local residents (92%) with participants of the Par 3 Golf Course and Golf Driving Range the second and third highest respondents (15% and 13% respectively). This respondent base could be due to the sports clubs providing comment and feedback through a focused consultation process.
The majority of respondents accessed Thomas Turner Reserve by walking (83%) which is consistent with the high response from local residents.
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City of Port Adelaide Enfield
City of Tea Tree Gully
City of Salisbury
Local resident
Member of soccer club
Par 3 golf participant
Driving range participant
Car
Walking
Cycling
Question 1: Please indicate your Council of residence
Question 3: How do you usually access Thomas Turner Reserve?
Question 2: How would you describe your interest in Thomas Turner Reserve? (tick all that apply)
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Consultation Responses
Surveys
The remainder of the survey broke the Draft Master plan down into the short term, medium term and long term (options A and B) outcomes, this looked at assessing whether the respondent like the outcome, would change or improve the outcome, and whether they preferred either option A or B for the long term master plan outcome. Question seven asked for any other comments.
As there were comments made over questions 4-7 which related to whether the respondent liked a key outcome of the draft master plan or would change/improve key outcomes of the draft master plan these responses have been collated and then the key outcomes from this are explored for the short, medium and long term master plan options. For the full collation table please refer to Appendix C.
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Ref Key Masterplan Outcome Like Change or Improve
7 New access road 17 3
8 Emergency vehicle access only (no general vehicle access). Maintain pedestrian access.
1 1
9 Upgrade vehicle entrance off Nelson Road 1 4
Ref Key Masterplan Outcome Like Change or Improve
2 Retain existing carpark 3 2
17 New carpark 14 1
17 Expanded carpark 1 1
Ref Key Masterplan Outcome Like Change or Improve
21 Regional level playspace focused on nature play 17 3
Ref Key Masterplan Outcome Like Change or Improve
19 Strategic upgrade to existing buildings to provide improved canteen, storage & shelter facilities
4 1
Ref Key Masterplan Outcome Like Change or Improve
10 Renovate local Heritage Building (opportunity for community use. E.g. artist in residence)
5 4
Short Term Draft Master plan (1-5 years)
The new entrance road
The majority of responses around the new entrance road were positive with 19 comments showing support (including the Derwent Terrace entrance modification and the upgraded vehicle entrance along Nelson Road).
The comments for how this could be changed or improved included:
• Locating the entrance off Grand Junction Road (2 comments)• Whether the entrance would be gated to manage access at night (1 comment)• Managing traffic and ‘hoon’ behaviour along the new entrance road (2 comments)• Loss of trees with the new entrance road (1 comment)• Retaining resident access from Derwent Terrace between certain times (1 comment)
Discussion:
• Locating the entrance off Grand Junction Road is not recommended due to the following: - This location would not support the access and parking to the local Heritage Building or proposed future nature
play area or community and sports building - Increase the traffic turning into the reserve from Grand Junction Road which may in future necessitate a dedicated
turning lane (depending on traffic volumes) which would be located in close proximity to an existing intersection - May result in the duplication of hard surface (along the shared use path) within the riparian zone or result in conflict
between vehicles and pedestrians if this was a shared use space - May result in the removal of a significant amount of established trees - May result in the realignment of Oval 1
• Traffic calming measures should be included along the new entrance road (speed bumps)• Replacement tree planting should be undertaken for any loss of trees from new access road• Retaining two-way vehicle access from Derwent Terrace is not recommended and restricting general access whilst retaining
resident access would be difficult to achieve without significant financial investment. It is recommended that this entrance is retained for emergency vehicles with consideration given to allowing one-way exit from this point on large event days to manage traffic exiting the reserve.
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Consultation Responses
Ref Key Masterplan Outcome Like Change or Improve
7 New access road 17 3
8 Emergency vehicle access only (no general vehicle access). Maintain pedestrian access.
1 1
9 Upgrade vehicle entrance off Nelson Road 1 4
Ref Key Masterplan Outcome Like Change or Improve
2 Retain existing carpark 3 2
17 New carpark 14 1
17 Expanded carpark 1 1
Ref Key Masterplan Outcome Like Change or Improve
21 Regional level playspace focused on nature play 17 3
Ref Key Masterplan Outcome Like Change or Improve
19 Strategic upgrade to existing buildings to provide improved canteen, storage & shelter facilities
4 1
Ref Key Masterplan Outcome Like Change or Improve
10 Renovate local Heritage Building (opportunity for community use. E.g. artist in residence)
5 4
Ref Key Masterplan Outcome Like Change or Improve
7 New access road 17 3
8 Emergency vehicle access only (no general vehicle access). Maintain pedestrian access.
1 1
9 Upgrade vehicle entrance off Nelson Road 1 4
Ref Key Masterplan Outcome Like Change or Improve
2 Retain existing carpark 3 2
17 New carpark 14 1
17 Expanded carpark 1 1
Ref Key Masterplan Outcome Like Change or Improve
21 Regional level playspace focused on nature play 17 3
Ref Key Masterplan Outcome Like Change or Improve
19 Strategic upgrade to existing buildings to provide improved canteen, storage & shelter facilities
4 1
Ref Key Masterplan Outcome Like Change or Improve
10 Renovate local Heritage Building (opportunity for community use. E.g. artist in residence)
5 4
Car Parking
The majority of responses around car parking were positive with 18 comments showing support for the retention of the existing car park, the new car park along the entrance road and the expanded car parking facilities in future.
The comments relating to how this could be changed or improved included:
• Car parks should be configured to ensure maximum spaces are provided (1 comment)• Car parking spaces should be larger (1 comment)• Query on how much open space was lost to car parking (1 comment)• Parking spaces for Valley View East Side (1 comment)
Discussion
• Recommend to retain car parking at it is shown in the draft master plan• The configuration of the car park would be finalised during the detailed design stage• The size of the car parks should meet Australian Standards
Upgrade to existing sports facilities
The survey respondents indicated a mixed response to the upgrade to the existing buildings with 4 comments showing a positive response. However the comment around how this action could be changed or improved was made to ensure that women’s change facilities were considered in the future development of this ground which indicates support for the upgrade of facilities.
Discussion
• Assess key master plan outcome against sports clubs feedback • Recommend retaining the facilities located between oval 2 and 3 to support sports use
Ref Key Masterplan Outcome Like Change or Improve
7 New access road 17 3
8 Emergency vehicle access only (no general vehicle access). Maintain pedestrian access.
1 1
9 Upgrade vehicle entrance off Nelson Road 1 4
Ref Key Masterplan Outcome Like Change or Improve
2 Retain existing carpark 3 2
17 New carpark 14 1
17 Expanded carpark 1 1
Ref Key Masterplan Outcome Like Change or Improve
21 Regional level playspace focused on nature play 17 3
Ref Key Masterplan Outcome Like Change or Improve
19 Strategic upgrade to existing buildings to provide improved canteen, storage & shelter facilities
4 1
Ref Key Masterplan Outcome Like Change or Improve
10 Renovate local Heritage Building (opportunity for community use. E.g. artist in residence)
5 4
Ref Key Masterplan Outcome Like Change or Improve
7 New access road 17 3
8 Emergency vehicle access only (no general vehicle access). Maintain pedestrian access.
1 1
9 Upgrade vehicle entrance off Nelson Road 1 4
Ref Key Masterplan Outcome Like Change or Improve
2 Retain existing carpark 3 2
17 New carpark 14 1
17 Expanded carpark 1 1
Ref Key Masterplan Outcome Like Change or Improve
21 Regional level playspace focused on nature play 17 3
Ref Key Masterplan Outcome Like Change or Improve
19 Strategic upgrade to existing buildings to provide improved canteen, storage & shelter facilities
4 1
Ref Key Masterplan Outcome Like Change or Improve
10 Renovate local Heritage Building (opportunity for community use. E.g. artist in residence)
5 4
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Ref Key Masterplan Outcome Like Change or Improve
7 New access road 17 3
8 Emergency vehicle access only (no general vehicle access). Maintain pedestrian access.
1 1
9 Upgrade vehicle entrance off Nelson Road 1 4
Ref Key Masterplan Outcome Like Change or Improve
2 Retain existing carpark 3 2
17 New carpark 14 1
17 Expanded carpark 1 1
Ref Key Masterplan Outcome Like Change or Improve
21 Regional level playspace focused on nature play 17 3
Ref Key Masterplan Outcome Like Change or Improve
19 Strategic upgrade to existing buildings to provide improved canteen, storage & shelter facilities
4 1
Ref Key Masterplan Outcome Like Change or Improve
10 Renovate local Heritage Building (opportunity for community use. E.g. artist in residence)
5 4
Ref Key Masterplan Outcome Like Change or Improve
7 New access road 17 3
8 Emergency vehicle access only (no general vehicle access). Maintain pedestrian access.
1 1
9 Upgrade vehicle entrance off Nelson Road 1 4
Ref Key Masterplan Outcome Like Change or Improve
2 Retain existing carpark 3 2
17 New carpark 14 1
17 Expanded carpark 1 1
Ref Key Masterplan Outcome Like Change or Improve
21 Regional level playspace focused on nature play 17 3
Ref Key Masterplan Outcome Like Change or Improve
19 Strategic upgrade to existing buildings to provide improved canteen, storage & shelter facilities
4 1
Ref Key Masterplan Outcome Like Change or Improve
10 Renovate local Heritage Building (opportunity for community use. E.g. artist in residence)
5 4
Ref Key Masterplan Outcome Like Change or Improve
7 New access road 17 3
8 Emergency vehicle access only (no general vehicle access). Maintain pedestrian access.
1 1
9 Upgrade vehicle entrance off Nelson Road 1 4
Ref Key Masterplan Outcome Like Change or Improve
2 Retain existing carpark 3 2
17 New carpark 14 1
17 Expanded carpark 1 1
Ref Key Masterplan Outcome Like Change or Improve
21 Regional level playspace focused on nature play 17 3
Ref Key Masterplan Outcome Like Change or Improve
19 Strategic upgrade to existing buildings to provide improved canteen, storage & shelter facilities
4 1
Ref Key Masterplan Outcome Like Change or Improve
10 Renovate local Heritage Building (opportunity for community use. E.g. artist in residence)
5 4
Heritage Building Adaptive Re-use
There was support shown for the adaptive re-use and conservation of the existing heritage building on site (5 comments) with the potential for this to include an artist-in-residence space.
The comments indicating that this outcome could be changed or improved included:
• That this building should be available to hire for small community events (1 comment) this was supported by other comments made about a community hall which the community could hire
• The inclusion of a coffee shop within the building (1 comment)• That the funds could be better used to expand the nature play area or that this could be demolished and the space
incorporated into the nature play area (2 comments)
Discussion
• The artist-in-residence was included in the draft master plan as a potential use of this space and does not preclude other uses for this building. This outcome would be subject to future feasibility assessment and expression of interest through which the final use would be decided.
• Include an additional note indicating that this would be subject to further feasibility process
Medium Term Draft Master plan (5-10 years)
Nature Play Space
Overall there was support for the nature play space 17 comments, while there were 3 comments that the nature play space could be changed or improved two of these comments stated that the play space should be bigger and one comment wanted an “substantial ultra-modern playground should be built covering a multitude of activities” rather than a nature play space.
Additionally there were three comments around the existing playground saying both that this is underutilised (1 comment) and that it should be replaced with a modern/new playground (2 comments). The current draft master plan does not mention this playground and what the future actions should be.
Discussion
• Recommend to retain the nature play space as shown in the draft master plan• Recommend to retain the existing playground and upgrade the asset as part of Council’s Asset Management Plan. This is
recommended for retention due to its proximity to the sporting fields and its provision of additional activities for families with small children who participate in sporting activities.
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Long Term Draft Master plan (10+ years)
• The main reason, stated through the comments, for respondents to choose Option B was the retention of the driving range in its current extended format (rather than relocating it to a smaller space with nets).
• However overall there was a higher level of support for Option A than Option B, generally this support was due to increased amount of activities. There was a more expressed level of support for the provision of youth facilities.
• However it should be recognised that there were also a number of people who did not state a preference
Discussion
• Due to the indicative time frame for the long term master plan it would be appropriate to retain both option A and B at this stage in the project. The options for the long term development of the reserve should be assessed through a more detailed design process undertaken in due time.
Consultation Responses
Option A
Option B
Didn't State Preference
45%
28%
27%
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Other Comments
Public Toilets
There were seven comments made in relation to the access to public toilet facilities. These comments highlighted that the access to public toilet facilities was a concern for the community. The co-location of these facilities was suggested with the following options highlighted; within the sporting facilities, the heritage building or the proposed new community and sports facility.
Discussion
• The final master plan should indicate potential locations for public toilet facilities, these could be co-located with other facilities for efficiencies in access to services (sewerage, water) and maintenance as well as providing passive surveillance
• This could include 2-3 locations identified, equally distributed across the reserve, due to the size of the site and the proposed increase in activities
• There should be a disabled accessible toilet provided and all public toilet facilities should meet Australia Standards• Further assessment of accessible public toilet facilities and locations should be considered during subsequent stages
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Consultation Responses
Individual Submissions
There were three individual submissions during the second consultation; two from local residents and one from the Friends of Dry Creek Trail inc. There responses and the recommended response to these for the draft master plan is detailed below.
Friends of Dry Creek Trail Inc
Via letter 30 November 2017
This group has a long history of working with the City of Port Adelaide Enfield. They have a strong focus on re-establishing the endemic biodiversity of Thomas Turner Reserve; they see the master plan as an opportunity to continue their work.
Ref Response Discussion
13, 14
• Opportunity for Friends of Dry Creek volunteers to help with the additional planting. Suggest endemic species to improve the aesthetic value of the planting and lower maintenance costs.
• Noted, should be considered during the detailed design.
15 • It would also benefit our National Tree Day plantings along Dry Creek. Another opportunity for more endemic plantings to connect the separate elements.
• Noted, should be considered during the detailed design.
• Council supports the involvement of community groups in vegetation planting.
21 • Support the development of the regional play space particularly if it connects and integrates with the low buffer planting.
• Noted, should be considered during the detailed design.
31 • Where there are priority areas for creek works the Friends of Dry Creek ask that these areas which include their National Tree Day Planting considers these trees and if possible excludes them as many trees are significant to the volunteers who planted them.
• Noted, these areas will be considered and retained where possible while still achieving the bank stabilisation requirements.
• Recommend further consultation to be undertaken during detailed design.
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• In regards to the use of the terms native planting and succession planting, these have different meanings to the Friends of Dry Creek so they recommend clarifying these terms
• It would be of benefit to the Draft Master Plan if a “Landscape Functional Analysis” (CSIRO Sustainable Ecosystems 2005) was conducted before the landscape design was developed.
• Noted.
30 • In option A the Council depot is to be considered to be relocated. Our shed is very valuable to us and other Adelaide and Mount Lofty Ranges NRM Board groups. So, if a move is to be considered, we ask that it then be re-located close by in the Valley View area, for ease of regular access.
• Noted, subject to a review of depot operations Council would be seeking to retain this facility.
• Any future change to this facility should be part of a further design and consultation process when the implementation of the long term options are realised; there are additional considerations which will also be examined to assess between option A and B such as feasibility of the Driving Range.
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Local Resident - Derwent Terrace adjacent reserve
Via email 16 December 2017
Ref Response Discussion
7 • Suffers from severe anxiety• Condition exacerbated by speed of vehicles exiting the
car park from late night training• Very against the new entry road as he is concerned that
this will further impact on his condition
• New access road would be a similar distance from this residence as the existing exit along Derwent Terrace and would transfer the traffic to another location rather than significantly increasing the amount of traffic, particular with consideration of the additional car parking identified in the master plan being provided within the western section of the reserve.
• A traffic survey undertaken by Council in March and May 2017 did not record any vehicles traveling above the speed limit; however,
• Traffic calming should occur along this new access road to manage vehicle speeds and should reduce the exit speed of vehicles.
7 • Suggests entry road off Grand Junction Road along the bike path and to the car park
• This has been considered and is not recommended as discussed within this report.
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Consultation Responses
Local Resident – Geraldine Street on reserve boundary
Via Email 13 December 2017 and 18 December 2017
Ref Response Discussion
2,3,6,13
14,19
• Support a number of master plan outcomes including the upgrade to existing sport building, picnic, landscape and oval 1
• Noted
7,8 • Strongly oppose the new access road and restricted access at the existing Derwent Terrace exit to the existing car park. Reasons include:
- The volume of traffic on Geraldine Street (access to the current car park) is not an issue. - The current car park is never at capacity,
even on our busiest sporting days. - It is only weekends and some winter
practice nights that the car park is even used. - So many people walk to the oval in the
area, rather than drive. - We do not want to look at OR hear cars
driving up and down our back yard. - Our rear view will be highly impacted,
reducing the amount of time we will want to spend in our back yard. - We access the park daily (from our back
fence) with our 4 year old daughter. For safety reasons we do not feel this is a suitable place for a road.
• Currently the volume of traffic along Geraldine Street is consistent with a local street, however one of the key outcomes of the master plan is an increase in activity and use of the reserve which will generate increases in traffic in future.
• Additionally the location of the entry to the reserve off a local street with limited signage and no main road legibility may reduce the amount of incidental visitors to the reserve
• Car parking has been indicated as an issue by the sports clubs and as per previous comments increase in activities on the reserve will result in increased demand for car parking
• This master plan will not discourage people who walk to the reserve.
• Providing regional destinations such as the nature play space and local Heritage Building will result in an increase in visitors who drive to the reserve
• Impact on visual amenity is noted and should be managed through the increased planting suggested in the draft master plan (13 and 14)
9 • Do not support the upgrade of the vehicle entrance off Nelson Road due to safety concerns.
• Located on a crest and is a dangerous blind spot for motorists.
• Concern also over the speed vehicles travel up the hill, the vehicles waiting at the Grand Junction Road Traffic Lights and cars lining up to turn right onto the new access road.
• Raises concern over the existing shops along Nelson Road and the conflict between vehicles that occurs there.
• This issue has been raised previously in discussions with the Department of Planning Transport and Infrastructure
• Council recognises the importance of providing safe vehicle movements at this location and will work closely with DPTI to achieve this
• A more detailed assessment of this access point will be required through the detailed design phase of the project
• Currently there is enough space in this road and median to accommodate a dedicated turning lane if required
7 • Suggests that the access road should start from the existing car park along Grand Junction Road as this car park is always at capacity and the area is flat, Grand Junction Road is a double lane road and there is a break in the traffic from the traffic lights.
• This has been considered and is not recommended as discussed within this report
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Ref Response Discussion
21 • Would like to see the proposed regional level nature play space relocated to where the existing play space is along the creek
• Regional level play spaces can attract a significant number of visitors. These visitors travel from a wider catchment area and usually travel by car. Locating this at the existing play space location would not allow for the amount of support car parking required for this type of facility
22 • Would prefer to see the amphitheatre with spectator seating for community events located on oval 2 rather than oval 1 (as it is used more)
• The amphitheatre was located along oval 1 as it would not impact on the size of the playing surface on this oval, due to an adequate amount of space available around the oval, additionally it is taking advantage of the existing site topography. Oval 2 does not have the space required for this facility at the edge of the playing field and the topography is flat at this area.
• Additionally oval 1 is located further away from adjacent residents which would reduce the potential for noise conflict between residents and community events
19 • Do not support the removal of existing sports buildings
• Noted. Recommendations made previously recognises the importance of retaining the sports building between oval 2 and 3 to provide amenities for both players and spectators
28 • Suggest that the proposed community and sports facility is located where the existing building is in the car park on the eastern side of oval 1
• The location of the existing building between oval 1 and 2 does not provide enough space for a larger facility. To achieve a larger building at this location would require the loss of a significant amount of car parking however a larger facility would require additional car parking.. The proposed location also support a strongly link to the Golf Course allowing for shared use of this building.
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Consultation Responses
Second Park Day
Held on 18 November 2017 at Thomas Turner Reserve
Council staff held a second park day to display the draft master plan and respond to any concerns raised by the community. Throughout this process respondents were encouraged to complete the survey to provide a consolidated community feedback.
Feedback (provided ad verbatim):
• Good example to check out – Cobbler Creek Recreation Reserve this uses the topography for the bike trails and pump track – ramps/trails/tracks
• Nursery Stock – Native Grasses• Opportunity for clubs to work together to develop clubrooms – clubs have spent money on clubrooms• Other• Skate Park sooner than 10 years (comment from 11 & 14 year olds bike riding from Pooraka)• Female change rooms• Don’t block the current car park entrance• Good example – Anstey Hill walking trail not just passive• Interpretative signage – Biodiversity value & NRM• More car parking near current car park to cater for volume when sports are playing concurrently• Pathway from end of Penolope Avenue to be finished with bitumen surface (and raised) – Currently just a dirt path that
erodes• Local traffic access from Derwent Terrace• Signage/Wayfinding – to help people find and enter park• 10+ years retain sheds used by Friends of Dry Creek• Good example to check out – Morialta Risk Based Play
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Sporting Clubs Feedback
Council staff met with members of the Sporting Clubs which use Thomas Turner Reserve in person to present the draft master plan and to discuss any feedback or concerns that the clubs had with the design. In addition to this clubs were invited to attend the second Park Day, they were also encouraged to provide feedback to the Council over email or phone depending on what was most convenient for the club.
Adelaide Puma’s Soccer Club
Draft master plan meeting 19 February 2018
Feedback:
• Think the facility is great and really appreciate having it as their home ground.• Mainly use oval 3 and oval 2 for their games, but use oval 1 for pre-season training during day lights savings as it is lit.• Main concern is that the long term master plan removes the building between oval 1 and 2. This is their main facility and the
club has spent approximately $10,000 to refurbish the interior of the building and are looking to spend additional funds on this facility (verandah).
• Additionally the removal of this building would mean that the only amenities (toilets, change facilities and storage) would be a significant distance away from oval 3 in the proposed community and club facility.
• Realistically the club anticipates that the removal of this building would mean many of the players would just change under the trees or somewhere closer which does not promote a family friendly environment.
• The club sees high use of the linear trail as well as the existing play space and half court.• They requested that extra netting or tree planting buffers were included along the eastern boundary of oval 3 similar to
what is in place along the northern boundary of oval 2. They have ongoing issues with balls going over the fences along these boundaries which have resulted in the club paying residents for any damage incurred. This has resulted in a significant cost over time and the club would like to remove the cause of the issue.
• The club was pleased to see the inclusion of the power bollard next to oval 3 this would support the mobile canteen that they have refurbished and provide for the club members and spectators.
• The club did not have any preference between the draft master plan long term option A and B, although would prefer option A if the proposed soccer field was accessible by sporting clubs.
Valley View Par 3 Golf Course
Draft master plan meeting 19 February 2018
Feedback:
• The majority of the draft master plan will not have a large impact on the Golf Course.• The combined community and sports hub in the long term draft master plan would be of significant benefit to the Golf
Course with many of its members indicating a desire for a facility where they can have social congregation after playing (e.g. dinner/drinks)
• The proposed community and club facility would need to be supported with good links across Dry Creek for this to provide good access to the Golf Course.
• This long term plan did not necessitate the re-orientation or re-development of the Golf Course (in terms of the alignment of the start/end of the course to the facility).
• Currently there is no link between the Golf Course and the Golf Driving Range and the Golf Course could see benefit in these being managed together as a single facility.
• There was a strong preference for the draft master plan long term option B with the retention of the Golf Driving Range to maintain a Golfing hub in this location.
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Enfield United Cricket Club
Draft master plan meeting 19 February 2018
Feedback:
• This is not their home ground so interest in the master plan extends to the use of oval 1 and 2 during the summer months as well as the use of the sports building between oval 1 and 2.
• Main concern with the draft master plan is to retain or increase the amount of storage accessible from oval 1 and 2. In the long term master plan the removal of both existing sports buildings is of concern as storage facilities provided in the new community and sports building would be too far away for sports gear used on oval 2.
• The expansion of playing surface on oval 2 is strongly supported and the club would suggest exploring the potential to relocate the cricket wicket so that it is central to the new expanded oval.
• Another concern is cricket balls going into the creek from oval 2 currently in the summer months there is no net erected to catch the balls. Balls can go out either along the ground or ‘out on the full’ in the air. Netting would only catch a proportion of the balls. It was suggested during the first stage of consultation to establish raised planting beds along this edge to catch the balls along the ground.
• The cricket club observes people using the linear trail; existing playground and half court facility all the time and provides an additional activity for families of players.
Para Vista Lutheran Cricket Club
Via Email 10 November 2017 and 23 February 2018
Feedback:
• The club is a new tenant of the Reserve and currently uses oval 2 and the spots building between oval 1 and 2 for storage, changing facilities and toilets
• Any action taken to increase the size of Oval 2 would be appreciated. With thicker modern bats, the ball can now be hit further by the batsman.
• Following the increase in size of Oval 2. Suggest considering relaying the concrete pitch in a more central location. This would lengthen/optimise the distance to all boundaries.
• There may be an added potential benefit of locating the concrete slab in between two soccer pitches, and therefore having less impact on the soccer playing surface.
• It is understood that it is common for balls to be hit into the creek and lost, the club acknowledges there is netting in place but there is concern for additional nearby pedestrians who may be within ‘firing range’, once the redevelopment is completed.
• The club would consider the removal of the sports building between oval 1 and 2 to be detrimental to the use of Oval 2 for sports, especially cricket. With the use of the concrete pitch, matting is required to be laid down over the concrete for each match. These mats come in pairs, each covering half the length of the pitch. Each mat is extremely heavy, but can be carried by three people short distances. The removal of this building would require the mats to be carried distances further that what is considered to be safe. Options include the laying of permanent matting (which can be damaged outside of match times) or car access onto the oval.
• Toilets and changing space for players will need to remain close. The club would hate for people (not just players) to consider the toilets at the new Community Centre to be too far to walk to at times of urgency or have player getting changed under the trees.
• Breaks in play can be a short as 5 minutes. Close facilities would enable players to remain hydrated as well as toileted during matches
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Golf Driving Range
Via Email 30 November 2017
Feedback:
• Have concerns over the draft master plan long term option A and what happens to the Golf Driving Range if this option happens.
• Raises concern that there won’t be financial justification for this to occur or proper consultation with the Golf Driving Range prior to this happening
• Very interested in running both the Golf Driving Range and the Valley View Par 3 Golf Course
Valley View Soccer Club
Via Email 23 February 2018
Feedback:
• The master plan is extremely welcome and improved facilities in particular upgrades to clubrooms and new lights would be welcome.
• Concerned with that dedicated female change facilities have not been included in the master plan this is socially exclusive and unacceptable to the club
• Concern that enough parking has not been included in the master plan, currently there is an under supply of parking on weekend sport days. The master plan proposed an increase of activities on the precinct (social, artist, sport) and there is concern that the increase in car parking will not accommodate for the increase in people using the precinct. On game days there would be at least 120 cars just for Valley View Soccer.
Discussion
• The relocation of the concrete cricket wicket on oval 2 as part of the oval expansion works to a location which is central to the expanded size is supported as this will allow for greater flexibility for this oval to be shared use across cricket and soccer and will provide improved facilities for cricket which reflect the change in the sport and capacity of modern equipment;
• The inclusion of low level amenity planting beds along the linear trail to function as a barrier to ‘catch’ balls traveling along the ground which would otherwise go into the river is supported This action is to compliment the netting which would attract balls which go into the river traveling through the air. The netting should be left erected through both summer and winter sporting seasons;
• The inclusion netting and additional tree planting along the eastern boundary of oval 3 to improve the interface between the residential neighbours and the sporting use of the reserve is supported. This will improve safety for the adjacent residents and limit property damage;
• A strong pedestrian link should be established across the river between the proposed sport and community building and the golf course to support the shared use of this building;
• It is recommended that the master plan recognises the importance of the existing play area and retains this in the long term• A review of the existing buildings on the site has been undertaken both of these buildings are dated, fail to meet current
standards and nearing the end of their useful life, but otherwise are in good overall condition. It is acknowledged that the provision of a sports building and amenities between oval 2 and 3 in the long term is recommended to support both sports and recreation use of this space. The existing building quality and the importance of retaining a building in this location in the longer term would justify the replacement of the eastern building (between oval 2 and 3) with appropriate provision of change facilities, toilets and other facilities which are identified through further planning as appropriate.
• The concerns about the relocation or removal of the Driving Range is noted. It is recommended that further investigations would be required prior to this decision being made and that as previously stated both long terms options are retained at this point subject to further investigations and consultation.
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Conclusion and Recommendations
Thomas Turner Master plan Consultation Summary and Recommended changes
The second stage of consultation for the Thomas Turner Draft Master plan has shown community support for the key moves identified for the future development of the reserve. The community and stakeholder feedback indicates that the fundamental principles and structure of the draft master plan is sound.
Where there was responses which indicated that a key move could be changed or improved within the draft master plan (particularly around the new vehicle entrance off Nelson Road and the new entry road) these were reviewed; in each case the original rationale behind the design move was sound and minor changes were made to address concerns raised. Many of the concerns raised should be considered during the detailed design. The inclusion of an additional level of detail in the existing notation on the draft master plan is recommended to ensure that this occurs.
Recommendations:
Short Term (year 1-5)
1. Retain the location of the new entrance road off Nelson Road2. Include traffic calming measures along the new entrance road (speed bumps) to manage vehicle speeds3. Plant replacement trees for any loss of trees resulting from the development of the new access road4. Ensure that the new vehicle entrance off Nelson Road provides safe vehicle movements through detailed design process and
collaboration with DPTI5. Retain controlled access from the existing car park to Derwent Terrace with emergency vehicles access and consideration
given to allowing one-way exit from this point on large event days to manage traffic exiting the reserve.6. Include a note that the future use of the heritage building would be subject to future feasibility assessment and expression of
interest through which the final use would be decided.7. Include additional tree and vegetation planting along the northern boundary particularly adjacent the new entrance road to
provide visual screening and noise mitigation to adjacent residential properties8. Acknowledge the retention the existing playground and future upgrade as part of Council’s normal asset management
process. 9. Indicate 2-3 potential locations for public toilet facilities including disabled toilet, such as in the new sports and community
building, in the heritage building and in the existing sports building between oval 2 and 3, while stating that final location for public toilet facilities would be decided at a later stage
10. During creek works consider and retain where possible the tree planting undertaken through the Friends of Dry Creek Trail Inc.
11. Undertake detailed consultation with the Friends of Dry Creek Trails Inc. before planning any creek works12. In addition to netting establish low level amenity planting beds along the linear trail to function as a barrier to ‘catch’ balls
traveling along the ground which would otherwise go into the river13. Relocate the concrete cricket wicket on oval 2 as part of the oval expansion works to be central to the expanded size14. Include netting and additional tree planting along the eastern boundary of oval 3 to improve the interface between the
residential neighbours and the sporting use of the reserve. This will improve safety for the adjacent residents and ensure that there is limited property damage.
15. Modify notation on the existing sports buildings identified (number 19) to read: • For the western building “Undertake improvements to the existing western building to extend its useful life until the new
‘community and sports building’ is established”• For the eastern building “Replace the eastern building with improved change facilities and toilets”
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Medium Term (year 5-10)
16. Retain the nature play space as shown in the draft master plan17. Retain the existing depot with potential to expand after review of depot operations18. Undertake further investigation of driving range and consider the relocation of this facility
Long Term (year 10+)
19. Retain both options A and B for the long term master plan. Acknowledge that further consultation and detailed design process would be undertaken before the development of these facilities
20. Detail what could be included within the new sport and community building (including female friendly change facilities, club rooms, community spaces etc.)
21. Modify notation on the building to read “possible new community and sports facility” rather than “proposed”22. Establish a strong pedestrian link across the river between the proposed sport and community building and the golf course to
support the shared use of this building23. Note the removal of the current driving range building to accommodate the future community and sports facility
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