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    Til v. till v. til v. untilhttp://motivatedgrammar.wordpress.com/2007/11/23/til-v-till-v-til-v-until/My roommate asked me how to spell the rst word o! Till death do uspart"!or reasons that # don$t !ully recall% &ut it denitely wasn$t

    &ecause we were starting some odd sort o! relationship'. (e agreedthere were three possi&ilities:

    til, till, til

    # )uickly responded that til was the logical choice% a truncation o!until% with the missing un marked &y an apostrophe. *pen-and-shutcase. +,cept that it wasn$t. #t kept gnawing at me. ad # seen peopleuse till in that conte,t (hy would they do that o # made the samemistake # o!ten do% and # looked into e,actly what the deal was. irsto% let$s look at some proponents o! each !orm:

    Tils:Til Tuesday, Aimee Manns semi-pivotal 80s band.Til Death, Brad Garretts follo-up to !verybody "oves #aymond.$aitin% Til the Midni%ht &our' A (arrative &istory of Bla)* +oer inAmeri)a.

    Tills:

    Till Death s Do +art, British sit)om that paved the ay for All in theamily.rom Dus* Till Dan, movie featurin% alma &aye* dan)in% and /so itis rumored some other plot as ell.

    "Til is hard to nd attestations o! people seem to &e pretty good atremem&ering to put apostrophes at the words when the rst sylla&le isremoved.' o why would anyone spell it till i! it$s coming !rom until(ell% it turns out that till isn$t derived !rom until. Till and til areactually two dierent words with two dierent etymologies. Till is theearlier !orm% attested as early as 1330 Untilis actually derived !romtill% not the other way around as in til "a &ack!ormation which showedup much later'. 4oth are common% so it$s up to you which one you like.Tillis commoner in cotland% where it can &e used like dative to insome situations% whiletil is commoner in the 5.. 6ake your pick.

    Until, Till, and 'Tilhttp://www.)uickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/until-till-and-tilpageall# regularly receive )uestions !rom people who are con!used a&out 8till%88until%8 and 8 9til.8

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    (hen you9re talking a&out a period o! time that must lapse &e!oresomething happens% 8till8 and 8until8 are e)uivalent. on9t &elieve it;heck a dictionary. 86ill8 actually came rst% and 8until8 !ollowed morerecently.$e spun in )ir)les until e ere di11y.

    $e ran till e ere breathless.

    8 96il8 is also an accepta&le shortened !orm o! 8until%8 &ut the etymologically incorrect.?

    Until, till and tilhttp://www.worldwidewords.org/)a/)a-unt1.htmQ:

    # have always &elieved that the shortened !orm o! until wastil.owever% my !ather recently asked me !or my thoughts% as someone

    had tried to convince him it should &e spelled till as in @eight till late$.*n consulting his dictionary% that was indeed the only denition thatcould &e !ound. (e would &e very grate!ul i! you could clear up thissituation !or us.

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    6he status o! til versus until and till is o!ten argued a&out and moststyle guides have something to say on the matter.

    6he most common &elie! is that till is a shortened !orm o! until. Aoucan see how this could have grown up% &ut the truth o! the matter is

    that till is &y !ar the older word% &eing recorded !rom a&out the yearB00% while it took another C00 years !or until to appear in thelanguage "it$s a compound o! till with the archaic *ld Dorse und% as !aras% which also survives in the archaic unto'. 4ut the rst sense o! tillwas to% as it still can &e% !or e,ample% in cots and some dialects.6hough the modern sense o! till in standard +nglish is alwaysconnected with time% this only appeared a&out 1300.

    6he current position is that until is the more common o! the two wordsand is generally considered to &e slightly more !ormal% which is why itturns up more o!ten in edited prose. #t is also rather more likely to

    appear at the &eginning o! a sentence than is till. 4ut till is per!ectlygood +nglish and the choice o! whether to use it or until is o!tendecided &y the rhythm o! the sentence.

    Aour !ather$s version%til% has &een created within the past century &ypeople who &elieve that till is an a&&reviation o! until and want tomark it as such. #t has o!ten &een said &y style guides and dictionariesthat it$s a mistake and it arouses passion in some people. Most recent

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    writers on language pre!er to descri&e it as an in!ormal version o! until it o!ten turns up in newspapers% advertising and song lyrics% !ore,ample% and in in!ormal set phrases like >shop tilyou drop?% >2t aintover til its over? or > Til e meet a%ain?. 4ut to use the spelling tilwithout the preceding apostrophe is still regarded as wrong.

    6here is really only one usage # can think o! where you would not usetill: in setting up a negative conditional.

    5ntil my landlord ,es the plum&ing% # am not going to pay the rent.

    # am not going to pay the rent until my landlord ,es the plum&ing.

    ere it would sound strange to use till% and #9m not really sure why.Eerhaps it is the negative.

    What is the diference between till and until?http://english.stacke,change.com/)uestions/FGBG/what-is-the-dierence-&etween-till-and-until(hat is the dierence &etween till and until(hen to use till or until

    #n a nutshell% they can &e used interchangea&ly in most situations% withthe o&vious e,ception o! ,ed phrases such as 8Till death do us part8.ome people will o&Hect to 8till8 "as &eing too in!ormal or whatever'%&ut only !or entirely made-up reasons "such as that 8till8 is a careless

    a&&reviation o! 8until8 or something% which is simply wrong 8till8 isactually the older o! the two words% and 8until8 was derived !rom itrather than the other way round'.

    Till is indeed older and the two can &e used pretty muchinterchangea&ly.6here is really only one usage # can think o! where you would not usetill: in setting up a negative conditional:Until my landlord 34es the plumbin%, 2 am not %oin% to pay the rent.2 am not %oin% to pay the rent until my landlord 34es the plumbin%.

    ere it would sound strange to use till% and #9m not really sure why.Eerhaps it is the negative.

    *ne more thing. ometimes you will see people spell till as acontraction o! until: that is% as 'til. 6his is simply wrong% and not seenoutside o! old poetry and modern greeting cards aiming !or a 8poetic8tone.

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