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ReconDiscussion6.test.pt at 17:41 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Reconstruction brought 3 keyamendments so it wasn't a total failureHK at 17:42 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
cruel mockery BUT necessarypt at 17:42 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Legally adequate but not in practiceBS at 17:42 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
It created a path for the freedoms wehave todayGK at 17:42 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
*2 key amendmentsHK at 17:43 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Supported by law, but not societySs at 17:43 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Who is to blame for end ofreconstruction? Presidents, congress?B.K. at 17:43 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
It took many years after reconstructionbut the goals were finally realizedHK at 17:43 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
The North didn't follow through withtheir commitmentSM at 17:44 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
what does *2 mean?pt at 17:44 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
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Reconstruction was essentially a totalfailure because the south reverted backto racismDl at 17:44 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
I thought slavery in itself was sufficientreason for the government to want toabolish it and extend suffrage to blacks -what atrocitiesE. W. at 17:44 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
President blocked all progressBS at 17:44 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Correction. I wrote 3 key amendmentwhen it was actually 2HK at 17:44 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
If these changes were not made the uswould've fallen back into antebellumsocietyGK at 17:44 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
The road to reconstruction was filledwith a lot of obstruction, and althoughthe means were not30 at 17:44 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
During reconstruction were so pertinentto ratifying the 13 14 and 15th?E. W. at 17:45 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
End to slavery is a good reason in itself,but blacks voting is to a differentextreme in many eyesB.K. at 17:45 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
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Justly motivated the end result wasworth it30 at 17:45 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
It did in some ways return to antebellumsocietyDl at 17:45 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Black fighting for the union was reasonin itself to extend suffrage to blacksSM at 17:45 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Reconstruction was a rollercoaster ofhope and disappointment.NM at 17:46 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Did they really receive suffrage or was ita shamNd at 17:46 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
But the blacks tehnically had the rightsthey were just denied them by thesoutherners? The gov can't effectivelycontrol thatGK at 17:46 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Yes, the ends justify the means hereSs at 17:46 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
It was a shamDl at 17:46 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
It was not intended as a sham, southernrackets just made it a shamHK at 17:46 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
No question mark*GK at 17:46 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
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They had it for awhile, see twosimultaneous black senators frommississippiSM at 17:46 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
That's also on the north thoughDl at 17:47 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Government couldn't stop the generalracism in southB.K. at 17:47 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
yes, they did have suffrage, whathappened?pt at 17:47 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
The KKKSM at 17:47 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
The south was just really racistDl at 17:48 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
So was it moral opposition to inequalitythat fueled support for that eventualsuffrage, or something else?E. W. at 17:48 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Poor farmers wanted to feel superior tosomeoneBS at 17:48 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Eventually led to civil rights for blacks..?30 at 17:49 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Blacks were not enslaved afterreconstruction, so that is a hugeimprovement for them.B.K. at 17:49 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
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"still reconstructing"pt at 17:49 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
The civil rights movement gave blacksrights, not recostructionDl at 17:49 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
What will signal the true end ofreconstruction?SM at 17:49 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
They were in fact almost enslavedDl at 17:49 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Are we trying to reconstruct the union orrace perception?HK at 17:49 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
The comp of 1877 is the recognized endbut it wasnt rleGK at 17:50 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
When nobody argues about this anymoreSs at 17:50 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
SM that idea is utopian (if that makessense)E. W. at 17:50 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Had to pas laws to protect blacks againstthat racismBS at 17:51 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Ss, what do you mean?pt at 17:51 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
I would call it a struggle for power, notequality30 at 17:51 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
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Agreed, unfortunately racism will alwaysexist in some formSM at 17:51 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Read the book blink, goes into thatB.K. at 17:51 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
That's a key pointHK at 17:51 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
backchannel folks, title this discussion.pt at 17:52 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Reconstructing the FutureSM at 17:52 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Racism vs the lawBS at 17:52 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
How Reconstruction Affected the FutureHK at 17:53 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
The fight for equality never endsB.K. at 17:53 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Reconstruction: a negative goodE. W. at 17:53 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Racism and reconstructionNd at 17:53 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Can the constitution stop racism?GK at 17:53 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Reconstructing RacismNM at 17:53 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Society vs lawSs at 17:53 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
TestMR at 17:55 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Racism is inevitable in some form btw, to
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some extent we r all racistMmm at 17:57 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Amendments didn't do their job wellThe real SS at 17:57 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Crushed hopes, may have seemed thatway at the time but everything theythought for eventually happenedAA at 17:57 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
white farmers had crushed hopes too?pt at 17:57 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Agree, society has to support the changesin order for them to be effectiveHC at 17:57 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Can the constitution actually dictateswhat happens in society?Lf at 17:58 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Supeme court decisions later gutted theamendments24 at 17:58 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
But it took too longEtc at 17:58 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Not ignored but overriddenLf at 17:58 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
It was a cultural upheavel, it had to beradical to a certain extentMmm at 17:58 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
South seemed to interpret everythingdifferently than the NorthThe real SS at 17:59 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
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People see what they want--interpretationLf at 17:59 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Why was it easy for south to pass laws?24 at 17:59 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Loop holes, states vs federal govAm at 17:59 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Threats did restrict their voting rights,kindof like mizzou voters in Kansasbefore warMR at 17:59 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
I agree, if president and congress had aunited front, reconstruction would havebeen much "lighter" for the blacks-would have had an easieAA at 18:00 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
The only way we could stop the threatstho is with violence, so its a lose losesituationMmm at 18:00 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
South vs north, Feds vs south, legislativevs executive24 at 18:00 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
How can it represent southern views ifnorth passed black suffrage and equalrights?HC at 18:00 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Everyone May be disappointed, nobodygot exactly what they wanted
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Mf at 18:01 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Civil rights movement was peacefulEtc at 18:01 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Johnson represents views of south, but itwas determined that souths votes wereskewed b/c they were restricting blacksoppinions to b heardMR at 18:01 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
What was the greater conflict limiting theadaptation of black rights: north vs southor legislative branch vs pres?Lf at 18:01 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Johnson eventually supported some pro-black lawsHC at 18:02 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
I agree that Johnson wasn't fighting foreither the n.or s. He was pretty muchdoing what HE believed inAm at 18:02 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Yes, peaceful for the whites who threwtear gasMmm at 18:02 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Johnson wanted whites to take powerover north and planter classMf at 18:02 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Legislative versu executive because theyrepresented conservative vs moderateviews24 at 18:02 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
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Johnson doesn't accurately representanyoneMR at 18:02 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Agree, it didn't have to be a struggleHC at 18:03 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Johnson was crazy, let's be honestMmm at 18:03 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Johnson represent moderate view. Samewith lincoln24 at 18:03 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Southerners resisted almost all northerndecisions, wanted their own power evenafter warMf at 18:03 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Who did Johnson intend to benefit withhis policies?Lf at 18:03 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
He wasn't "crazy" he just shouldn't havebeen presidentMR at 18:03 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
He thought he was God's chosen one...Mmm at 18:04 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
The kkk were the new confederatesMf at 18:04 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Without Johnson, less fuel for radicalrepublican cause--involuntary effectLf at 18:05 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Johnson only benefited himself. If hewanted to support his initial stance of
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supporting the poor white southerners heshouldn't have pardonAA at 18:05 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
There were new 'groups' fighting thesouthern battleHC at 18:05 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Johnson was the best president ever. Hedid what he believed inE.W. at 18:05 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
The kkk was more like a terrorist groupthan a confederate armyMmm at 18:05 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Its after AJ and beginning ofCongressional Recon that the "LostCause" narrative emerged.pt at 18:05 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
How did KKK gain so much power andinfluence?SS at 18:06 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
The south's new battleHC at 18:06 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
The best president would be doingsomething for the country not for himselfCC at 18:06 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Involuntary accomplishmentLf at 18:06 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Kkk had no one to stop them as well withthe south community supportAm at 18:07 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
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Kkk had no one to stop them as well withthe south community supportAm at 18:07 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Congres vs president, north vs south (Ithink this was a very valid point saidduring the discussion)AA at 18:07 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
@SS the south feared the changes andused the blacks as a scapegoatMmm at 18:07 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Violence scares people.Mf at 18:07 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Kkk represented views of conservativesouth24 at 18:07 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
The long lasting struggleLC at 18:07 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
The struggleCC at 18:08 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
A Government-Sponsored RollercoasterThe real SS at 18:08 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
No true winnersMf at 18:08 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web
Story of preservation24 at 18:08 PM, 28 Sep 2011 via web