tri-vortex™ technology – big scam?

Tri-Vortex™ Technology – Big scam? Posted 30 October 2011

Tri-Vortex™ claims that by treating water with a hi-end computer, professional audio software & hardware, amplifiers and a set of domed cylindrical chambers, that they can change the molecular structure of water and give it additional properties.Tri-Vortex is a quantum technology using sound to mimic the rhythms of nature. When

The claims are made that drinking the treated water will have the following effects:

Natural pain relief – with no chemicals. Complete hydration – water is structured and offers better cellular hydration. Improved vitality and balance – in both humans and animals. Reduction of negative effects from radiation in cell phones and electronic devices

http://www.wellnessdeals.co.za/deals/tri-vortex-technology-seminar/

Frankly, this is baloney and reeks of scam.

The local distributor is Anton Ungerer.

This is his contact details: Address: No. 159 Goodwood Street Kyalami Estate 1684 Gauteng South Africa Telephone: +27 (11) 025-8838 +27 (11) 026-0107 Email: [email protected]

The “product” is based on the work of Masaru Emoto, a Japanese author and entrepreneur known for his claims that human consciousness has an effect on the molecular structure of water. Emoto claims that positive changes to water crystals can be achieved through prayer, music or by attaching written words to a container of water.

Commentators have criticized Emoto for insufficient experimental controls, and for not sharing enough details of his approach with the scientific community. In addition, Emoto has been criticized for designing his experiments in ways that leave them open to human error influencing his findings. In 2003, James Randi publicly offered Emoto one million dollars if his results can be reproduced in a double-blind study. From Wikipedia – read more (Note: Although Wikipedia cannot be used as a perfect reference, the information available is often very useful and mostly correct.)

At the local Tri-Vortex website, the “experiments” appear to overwhelmingly support the effects of this product. However, the reader should remember that this is not independent research nor have these effects been reproduced.

At http://forloveofwater.co.za/tri-vortex/ the following nonsense is sprouted:

Tri-Vortex is a quantum technology using sound to mimic the rhythms of nature. When products that are treated in special chambers come into contact with water, it assists in adjusting the structure of the molecules in such a way that it returns to the original state as found in nature. It helps to remove the chaos from the water thereby reducing stress in the water and ultimately in

humans, animals and plants. It has seen remarkable results around the world. Cells hydrate optimally when presented with structured water. As a first step, always remember to filter your water to get rid of harmful substances.

The Tri-Vortex treated products usually retain their properties for a few years during which the person, or animal, will have benefited tremendously.

Tri-Vortex South Africa was established by Anton Ungerer in 2001. His tremendous excitement and passion for this technology has led to some new discoveries and applications that have a world wide application and benefits. Developments in the pipeline are equally exciting and promise to usher in the concept of true empowerment in personal healthcare.

Again, this reads like pseudoscience baloney, quackery, and scam.

Anton Ungerer / Tri-Vortex also sell the “Tri-Vortex™ range of Pendants, Bangles and various other items are most commonly used for NATURAL pain relief. “These items are used as indicated or placed directly on the specific area for most effective relief of pain. Although pain relief is the most obvious result, the Tri-Vortex™ products have a wonderful balancing effect on the entire body and, if needed the disc can be worn permanently with no side effects.”

Big SCAM!

Read more about similar products, e.g., Power Balance bracelet

Anton Ungerer with Dr. Emoto

More on Anton Ungerer and the “team” behind Tri-Vortex.

At this site are links to Dr Emoto’s studies and a discussion of the studies and the “evidence”.NOTE: The two published* studies specifically examined whether a change in water crystals is possible and NOT on any of the “benefits” being claimed, i.e., pain relief, improved vitality and balance, etc. *not in highly-regarded publications

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How many of the so called “experts” you consulted with have had any education or experience with subtle energy systems or items? None. So the “expert’s” prejudices based upon their ignorance’s and fears were hoisted up your flagpole as you went charging into to the dysfunctional ASA with your perverted agenda.

Because Tri-Vortex Technology was deprived of any kind of due process of law and did not have the opportunity of presenting to impartial referees nor present a case in a court of law, Anton’s freedom of speech (advertising on the Internet) was crushed and destroyed. The first amendment of the U.S. Constitution guarantees the right of freedom of speech so the citizenry is protected from fanatical tyrants such as you Harris and the bumbling bureaucrats employed by the ASA.

Depriving Tri-Vortex Technology of due process of law and stifling Anton’s freedom speech created a situation for the people of South Africa that is just as worse as the dark days and functions of Apartheid. Due to the ASA decision regarding Tri-Vortex Technology, the populace of South Africa lost their Freedom of Choice.

The peoples of South Africa have the right to be informed about and purchase a product that cannot harm them in any manner and has a money back guarantee yet has no “empirical data” to back up any claims. The people have the right and freedom to exercise the function known as “Buyer Beware” but the right and freedom have been deprived by one single meaningless complaint by a prejudiced individual with a perverted agenda and the dysfunctional ASA.

What is so very sad is that you Harris and people like you swing your intellectual sword of demanding “empirical data” but your fears and prejudices bar you from taking action to conduct any kind of tests yourselves. Your hands-off, living strictly in your head – non-involvement are the ultimate states of cowardice and immaturity.

Countless “skeptics” who have taken the time to actually test Tri-Vortex Technology products, are very impressed with the abilities of the disc and other items. Those “skeptics’ had the courage to overcome their fears and conduct fair and balanced tests. Harris do you know the true definition of nevertheless practice the word “courage?” Another classic example of cowardice is

The “Amazing” Randi

When first starting Tri-Vortex Technology in the early 1990s,I had interactions with James Randi who wanted me to conduct smell and taste tests to prove the efficacy of the Tri-Vortex Technology items and compete for his “one million dollar prize.” Randi’s amateur protocols called for me to be the smell and taste tester. When I countered his cloddish protocols with far stricter and professional standards and practices for the smell and taste tests, The “Amazing” Randi went amazingly silent during his total retreat into his day to day state of cowardice and immaturity.

I feel and believe you Harris and James Randi have every right to exercise your freedom of speech while communicating a warped agenda that you mask and market as “skepticism.” Regretfully, for now, only we in the United States are protected from you and Randi’s agenda to negate an individual’s right to due process of law and exercise the freedoms of speech and choice while practicing the right of “Buyer Beware.”

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Scientists associated with the test labs and instrument companies are in the midst of a experiencing either a paradigm shift or a state of cognitive dissonance due to anomalous positive results generated by the Tri-Vortex Technology items. Because of these developments I will have to hold off providing an answer to condition number three.

The on-going clinical trial and studies do not involve smell and taste tests nor plant and flower tests. Twenty Tri-Vortex Discs will be provided directly to the University of Cape Town for the tests should all the conditions and protocols be agreed to by all parties. For example, red wine will be used for the smell and taste tests and not water.

If I provide the 20 Discs and the trials commence and complete and you simply publish the results on your blog:

1. Will the positive test results be of benefit to all citizens of South Africa? Answer – No 2. Will the positive test results reverse the loss of rights and freedoms for the citizens of South Africa? Answer – No 3. Will the positive test results reverse Anton losing his common sense right of due process of law and his fundamental freedom of speech? Answer – No

Harris, this whole situation was started by you writing a letter of complaint to the ASA therefore the issues need to be resolved with the ASA. I suggest a letter be drafted to the ASA detailing the testing that will take place a UCT. The letter will be signed by you Harris, Anton and me. The letter will request five referees be appointed by the ASA. Two referees will be nominated by you Harris (one layman & one scientist) and two referees will be nominated by Anton (one layman & one scientist). The fifth referee will be nominated by the ASA.

The referee’s will evaluate: 1. The UTC clinical trial test results 2. Oral argument by you Harris 3. Oral argument by Anton 4. Oral argument by an individual chosen by you Harris. 5. Oral argument by Brian David Andersen

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I have been in communication with a network including scientist to get more information on you and the “science” behind your products. I agree with all who I have engaged with: your claims are nonsense, or to put it nicely, “unproven beliefs”. The physiological basis to your product’s claims are implausible and have been debunked elsewhere, including that of Dr. Masaru Emoto’s beliefs which underpin some of your assertions.

As I am not a research organisation, I do not conduct studies. As an objective commentator, I cannot conduct studies. The fact is this: you are based in the USA that has thousands of academic institutions that could conduct this research for you, and have not.

This is a point that is very pertinent- why does not a SINGLE academic institution want to investigate your product? Of thousands of academic institutions throughout the world, surely your “ground-breaking” claims would be investigated by at least ONE?

It is important for scientists to keep an open mind, but not the point where everything just falls out. Your explanation of why the scam buster, James Randi has dismissed your claims, “James Randi proposed protocols that were amateur and he withdrew when confronted with far more professional standards” is rubbish – here you had an opportunity to prove your product using protocols that were amateurish and you did not accept the challenge? Come on Brian, how stupid do I seem? James Randi has detailed many scam artists who operate exactly the same way you do – they decline his “protocols” because they are not rigorous enough, because they do not consider the observers academic enough, and a myriad of other cop-outs.

The facts are very simple to appreciate: 1. Trivortex makes claims that are physiologically highly unlikely, and frankly, bizarre. 2. The physiological basis of the Trivortex has been discounted elsewhere, e.g., Dr. Masaru Emoto’s “science” 3. Trivortex has been in operation for many years: yet you are unable to supply evidence of a single academic institutions that you approached and were willing to do research on Trivortex. 4. Without vigorous peer-reviewed proof, stop making unsubstantiated claims for your product.

Readers should be aware that James Randi is regarded as one of the most credible quack and scam busters in the world. Even the very famous and credible magazine,Nature, have utilised his services in busting charlatans. [1, 2] At the James Randi Foundation website, an article regarding the Trivortex can be read. [3]

1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_memory 2. http://www.nature.com/news/2004/041004/full/news041004-19.html 3. http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/2012-help-indian-skeptics-fight-new-nonsense.html

This posting was first made in October 2011. Two years and 4 months on, Brian Anderson has not been able to supply us with a single study conducted by a reputable academic institution. Even if you do not agree with my posting, are you not curious as to why this is so? But wait, there’s more! Considering that Trivortex has been around even before October 2011, and not a single study to confirm the claims?

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Harris,

The questions below are for clarification regarding your background and motives.

If the answer is yes then please explain. If you answer no but the reality is yes then you are vulnerable to being further exposed as a liar. If you refuse to answer some or all of, the questions then the logical assumption is “yes” is the anwser to all the questions you do not answer.

1. Have you indirectly or directly received any gifts, payments or special treatments by an individual or an organization indirectly or directly connected with the pharmaceutical, chemical or oil industries?

2. Has any university department you have been indirectly or directly associated with received any gifts, grants, payments or special treatments by an individual or an organization indirectly or directly connected with the pharmaceutical, chemical or oil industries?

3. Have you ever given lectures presentations or had any public communications associated with the pharmaceutical, chemical or oil industries?

4. Have your ever consulted with or been consulted by an individual or an organization indirectly or directly connected with the pharmaceutical, chemical or oil industries?

You have taken full advantage of the dysfunctional, corrupt and perverted conditions and structure of the ASA so health related products that do not harm a human, animal or plant in any manner cannot advertise on the internet due to your ONE complaint about the product that you have not used, tested nor have been harmed by in any manner.

If you do not have any connections to big pharma then you sure do walk, talk, smell and whistle like big pharma whose profits are threatened by subtle energy products.

You insist all health products must be exposed to the dysfunctional, corrupt and perverted practice known as “academic peer review.” In this blog the obvious weaknesses of “academic peer review” have been detailed but you have made no attempt to rehabilitate nor provide information in support of “academic peer review.”

Due to the conditions above, is your life existence relegated to the level of a dysfunctional, corrupt _ _ _ _ _ _ _?

As far as the credibility of Tri-Vortex Technology…I invite the reader to review the webpage http://trivortex.com/Research1.html and the blood test results on webpage http://trivortex.com/Tri-Vibes-Blood.html and the video posted on the webpage http://trivortex.com/StemCell.html

However, these webpages do not detail any dysfunctional, corrupt and perverted “academic peer reviewed” studies. The Tri-Vortex Technology webpages only communicate some plain old common sense – a

characteristic and state of being that, you, Harris, big pharma and ASA have no interest in persuing or living.

Fortunately a significant portion of the global population is desiring common sense therefore your inhumane methods and practices will be eventually be exposed and neutralized. But till that time of freedome and liberty occurs, the ghastly deceitful smirk on you face and in your writings will always expose your motives and personality. Brian David Andersen —

Brian,

The fact is simply that you have no robust proof that your product works or that the “research” you have conducted is valid and robust – it has not been peer-reviewed suggesting that it may be true, but is also may be pure bogus – I argue the latter.

I am tired of idiots like you claiming that ” If you do not have any connections to big pharma then you sure do walk, talk, smell and whistle like big pharma whose profits are threatened by subtle energy products.”

Your sole rationale for selling Tri-Vortex products is to make money. Do I look like an idiot to not see how much money you are charging for a worthless trinket? You no better than Big Pharma scum you accuse of abusing consumers – they abuse the scientific process and you do not even apply it. I do not know if you genuinely believe the crap you are spewing forth or whether you are knowingly scamming consumers – either way, until you prove your product works using proper research process, your claims are worthless.

These are the facts: 1. The claims for your products are bizarre and have no known physiological, physics or chemistry basis. They are as New Scientist puts it, “fruitloopery”. 1. You have no known academic supporters for your claims. 2. No academic institutions want to touch doing research on your products – and you have been touting this rubbish for 5-10 years? 3. Not a single study has been published verifying your claims. 4. You claim that Tri-Vortex will prevent food from going off and flowers wilting: if this was true why are retailers not flocking to buy your product to benefit? 5. You refused a simple basic test by James Randi claiming it was not rigorous enough. What balderdash – it was a copout. (I should disclose I have been in contact with his organisation)

I have witnessed a number of what appeared to be good studies only to find with a bit of digging that they were bogus. I include Slim Coffee, the company claimed that research had been conducted in Italy but turned out the organisation did not exist and the address was bogus.

I am also aware of my contact at the FDA/FTC (Federal Trade Commission), that studies for e.g., Peel Away the Pounds, although conducted by an entity that did exist, was not credible at all (and the company was fined and put out of business). The list of examples goes on and on. I frankly do not believe your research – the claims you make so bizarre, that I suspect that they are not – hence I ask for robust peer-review. Now that I think of this, I should consider asking my contacts at the FTC to evaluate your claims since they have the resources and I don’t.

And mostly, from your email, you are missing the point completely.

It is not about me – this is about your claims for the Tri-Vortex. They are either true and proven, or not true and unproven. I do not have to justify by background and I expect that exact same parameters from all – whether big pharma or not: if you are going to induce consumers to give you their money, prove your credentials. You have failed dismally.

And for your information, I have not received any money from “pharmaceutical, chemical or oil industries”. My income derives from doing analysis for the food industry and writing unbiased overviews on allergens for an allergy testing company and neither will benefit from my activism. You on the other hand are making money from a scam. Shame on you. I will now focus a lot of my effort on getting the Federal Trade Commission to investigate your activities.

Harris,

Fortunately the FTC does not work like the ASA.

There has been no complaints filed against Tri-Vortex Technology by a single CONSUMER to the FTC.

Your one single complaint that will not include your use or testing of the a Tri-Vortex product will be meaningless. The FTC only takes action after there are certain number of complaints by consumers who have purchased and used the product and feel they have be defrauded.

Your “contact” at the FTC will confirm this reality if that person truly exists.

The FTC has never taken action based one complaint or complaints by a single or multiple individuals and especially non-US citizens who have never PURCHASED and TRIED the product.

This should be how the ASA functions but high IQ sleaze bags like you take full advantage of their dysfunctional, corrupt and perverted procedures and practices.

Your one complaint that resulted in Anton Ungerer losing his freedom of speech is the pivot point of these discussions on your blog and not the efficacy and any money-back guaranteed subtle energy product that you have never used and tested and cannot do nor has ever caused any physical, emotional nor financial harm to any human, animal or plant.

You have never addressed and totally avoid the true issue discussed on the blog: freedom of speech by citizens of South Africa that you crushed by your manipulations of the crippled ASA.

The readers of the blog would not have been surprised by you labeling the truths in my last post as nonsense. You cite the poor clinical trials of products like Slim Coffee but you do not address the unethical and corrupt practices of big pharma related to their perversions of “academic peer reviewed” studies.

Therefore I have combined my last post, your response and this response (minus the first sentence of your last post) and pasted onto a post for the blog.

If you let this combined post stay on the blog, this will be my last entry (unless I do find you have any ties to big pharma) because I have stated the all the facts that need to be posted and the consumers from around the world can make their decision.

And yes if you let the combined post stay on the blog, you will have the last word touting your mantra that “scientific” studies need be completed. Hopefully one of these days you will realize that if a subtle energy product does not meet your “scientific” criteria, that does not mean you

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Andersen reply If allowed this is my last post. This entire blog about Tri-Vortex Technology including this reply are posted on the Tri-Vortex Technology website. Question 1. You have avoided answering the question Reply What Question? I answered the question regarding Oxford. Question 2. You have avoided answering the question: You are arrogant enough to think that you have found a missing dimension in physics, chemistry and science. Reply The findings on the research posts are the answer... the test results indicate a dimension beyond the algebraic equations of physicists and chemists does exist. The findings and results speak for themselves and there is no need for me to make any additional statements. Statement 3. http://projects.propublica.org/graphics/bigpharma Reply You Harris have avoided answering the question - how many complaints have your filed against Big Pharma?

The measly fines against big pharma do not impact their bottom line glutinous profits whatsoever.

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The ASA Code states: "4.1.1 Before advertising is published, advertisers shall hold in their possession documentary evidence as set out in Clause 4.1, to support all claims, whether direct or implied, that are capable of objective substantiation"

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The key words of this regulation that subject the entire process to subtle and outright corruption is "objective substantiation." A medical doctor reviewed numerous big pharma and alternative medicine modality studies. The MD proved beyond any shadow of a doubt that big pharma dominated panels who judge the "objective substantiation" of health items have a distinct bias towards big pharma products.

Flawed and sloppy studies by big pharma are immediately given approval while pristine and impressive studies of alternative modalities are not approved by always using the phrase "need further studies."

What staff members on the ASA have the qualifications to determine "objective substantiation" of a Tri-Vortex Technology product ?

Answer, No staff members on the ASA are qualified to make judgments on subtle energy products.

This has been a very good run and the consumer has more information on "skeptics" such as Harris and the issues related to Tri-Vortex Technology

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