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NONDESTRUCTIVE TESTING OCTOBER 2011 CONFIRMED MINUTES CONFIRMED MINUTES OCTOBER 18-20, 2011 SHERATON STATION SQUARE PITTSBURGH, PA, USA These minutes are not final until confirmed by the Task Group in writing or by vote at a subsequent meeting. Information herein does not constitute a communication or recommendation from the Task Group and shall not be considered as such by any agency. Tuesday, October 18, 2011 to Thursday, October 20, 2011 1.0 OPENING COMMENTS 1.1 Call to Order / Quorum Check The Nondestructive Testing Task Group (NDT) was called to order at 8:04 a.m., 18 Oct 2011. It was verified that only SUBSCRIBER MEMBERS were in attendance during the closed portion of the meeting. PRI Anti-trust Policy and Conflict of Interest was displayed and read to the Task Group. A quorum was established with the following representatives in attendance: Subscriber Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member) NAME COMPANY NAME * Stephen Bauer Northrop Grumman Corporation * Philippe Beck Eurocopter * Mitch Birzer General Dynamics Corp. * Alain Bouchet SAFRAN Group Chris Brust DCMA * Juergen Burchards MTU Aero Engines * Richard Costantino Goodrich Corporation * Michael Daehling Cessna Aircraft Company * Timothy Doane 309 th Maintenance Wing – Hill AFB * Chris Dootson BAE Systems Steven Garner Eaton Aerospace/MA Lou Grijalva Lockheed Martin 1

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NONDESTRUCTIVE TESTING OCTOBER 2011

CONFIRMED MINUTES

CONFIRMED MINUTESOCTOBER 18-20, 2011

SHERATON STATION SQUAREPITTSBURGH, PA, USA

These minutes are not final until confirmed by the Task Group in writing or by vote at a subsequent meeting. Information herein does not constitute a communication or recommendation from the Task Group and shall not be considered as such by any agency.

Tuesday, October 18, 2011 to Thursday, October 20, 2011

1.0 OPENING COMMENTS

1.1 Call to Order / Quorum Check

The Nondestructive Testing Task Group (NDT) was called to order at 8:04 a.m., 18 Oct 2011.

It was verified that only SUBSCRIBER MEMBERS were in attendance during the closed portion of the meeting.

PRI Anti-trust Policy and Conflict of Interest was displayed and read to the Task Group.

A quorum was established with the following representatives in attendance:

Subscriber Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member)

NAME COMPANY NAME

* Stephen Bauer Northrop Grumman Corporation* Philippe Beck Eurocopter* Mitch Birzer General Dynamics Corp.* Alain Bouchet SAFRAN Group

Chris Brust DCMA* Juergen Burchards MTU Aero Engines* Richard Costantino Goodrich Corporation* Michael Daehling Cessna Aircraft Company* Timothy Doane 309th Maintenance Wing – Hill AFB* Chris Dootson BAE Systems

Steven Garner Eaton Aerospace/MALou Grijalva Lockheed MartinThomas(Mike) Guinn Bell HelicopterHarry Hahn GE Aviation

* Greg Hall Cessna Aircraft Company* Robert Hogan Honeywell Aerospace* Edward Hohman Bell Helicopter Textron Inc.* Scott Iby Hamilton Sundstrand* Phil Keown GE Aviation Chairperson* Serge Labbe Heroux-Devtek, Inc.

Israel Matelski Israel Aerospace Industries* Michael Mitchell Hamilton Sundstrand

Stephen Mitchell BombardierHongli Niu Goodrich

* Dale Norwood Parker AerospaceScott O’Connor Honeywell

* Gary O’Neill Parker Aerospace Gas Turbine Fuel 1

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* Robert Rainone Goodrich Corporation* Carl Roche Textron Systems* David Royce Pratt & Whitney Secretary* Kurt Ruoff General Dynamics* Bobby Scott Bombardier Inc. Vice

Chairman* Michael Shiplett Triumph Group, Inc.* Chris Stevenson Rolls-Royce PLC

Terho Sulkupuro Volvo Aero Corporation* Scott Sullivan Honeywell Aerospace

Walter Tonizzo Heroux-Devtek* Peter Torelli The Boeing Company* Louis Truckley The Boeing Company* David Vaughn Spirit AeroSystems* Tony Warren Airbus SAS UK

Trish Wesemann The Boeing Company

Other Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member)

NAME COMPANY NAME

John Abrahams RTI International Metals, Inc.Christopher Andersen PCC StructuralsLeandro Aparicio Advanced Coating Technique

* Michael Ashton Hexcel Kent* Andy Bakewell E. M. Inspection Co. Ltd.

Shawn Ballou Wyman Gordon* Martyn Bills Exova UK Ltd

David Bullard Hi-Tech Metal FinishingAndrew Cantrell Jorgensen ForgeAlan Chlpka Solar Atmospheres of Western PASteve Crest Stabile Plating Co Inc.John Cristman X-R-I TestingNathalie Crozat-Vigier SKF Aerospace FranceKevin Curry Haley Industries Ltd.

* Robert Custer AAA Plating & Inspection, Inc.Sharon Davis Northeast Testing & Mfg, LLCFabienne DuFour Sherwin Babb Co.John Edwards Edwards ServicesTim Emmenegger Mistras Group

* Paul Evans James Fisher IMS Ltd.Donald Fie ESCO Turbine Technologies

SyracuseBen Flores Applied Aerospace StructuresSarah Fuqua Kearfott Guidance & Navigation Corp.Alexander Gamble Vermont Composites

* Richard Gasset Lisi AerospaceRichard Goodwin Laboratory Testing Inc.

* David Gray Mitchell LabsMichael J. Guthmiller Applied Aerospace StructuresRick Heise XRI TestingBob Henchar X-Ray IndustriesBarry Hickey Parker AerospacePhil Hilliard Dynamic Paint SolutionsBallard Hindman Advanced Coating TechniqueRandy Hite PCC Airfoils-Portland

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Ho Taikoo (Xiamen) Aircraft Eng. Co. Ltd

Don Horzewski Ladish Co, Inc.Gerard Hub G. Cotter Enterprises, IncBlanca Huerta Bowman Plating Co, IncJeff Jones Alloy Processing, Inc.Taneka King Essex CryogenicsRichard Kline X-R-Testing / TroyMichael Kocka Arrow GearJosef Maier Bohler Edelstahl GmbH & Co. KG

* D.E. "Skip" McDougall Hitco Carbon CompositesBill McKessy Howmet Corp/Hampton Casting

(HHC)Jerome Mehal Corpus Christi Army DepotNorm Miller Senior Aerospace, Ketema Division

* Dave Mitchell Mitchell NDT Associates, LLCAngelo Monzo Barnes AerospaceNour Nasr RTI Claro IncThomas Newton Aircraft Xray Laboratories, Inc.Juan M. Perez Aircraft Xray Laboratories, Inc.

* Mark Pompe West Penn Testing Group* Jonathan Pugh Exova UK Ltd

Venicia Queen Vandergriff TechnologiesSteve Raddich Jorgensen ForgeJim Reinhardt Applus RTD Canada LPCatherine Renfer ESCO Turbine TechnologiesDoug Riley Haley Industries Ltd

* Cindy Roth Team Industrial ServicesGuy Saenz Hi-Tech Metal FinishingVicki Salzarulo Kaman Aerospace CorpVictor Schonberger Israel Aerospace IndustriesTammi Schubert LMI Aerospace IncJohn Smith Sandvik Special MetalsDoug Starzec A.I.D. Company, Div of RBC BearingsMichael D. Steele Northstar AerospaceJackie Sternot PAKO, Inc.Craig Swindell Dynamic Paint SolutionsKirk Thams X-Ray IndustriesMarc Trepanier Composites Atlantic LtdDale Urban Mistras Group

* Gary White Orbit Industries Inc.Sean Wood TriumphTom Zimmerman SPS Technologies

PRI Staff Present

Mark AubeleJim BennettPhil FordMike GutridgeAndy Statham

2.0 TASK GROUP REGULAR BUSINESS ITEMS – CLOSED

Auditor Observations performed since June 2011:

#141194 – Observed by Lou Truckley3

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CONFIRMED MINUTES#138008 – Observed by Pete Torelli#135759 – Observed by Lou Truckley#140427 – Observed by Tony Warren#137512 – Observed by David Wall (Boeing)#139407 – Observed by Greg Hall#138947 – Observed by Pete Torelli

The comments made by the observers were discussed.

A question was asked regarding the process for communicating with the Auditor prior to the audit and if the Subscriber wishes to ask a question during an audit. PRI Staff clarified the expectations of NOP-007.

ACTION ITEM: PRI to verify the verbiage in the email that describes what information the Auditor is to supply to and coordinate with the Observer. PRI Staff to determine if an Auditor Advisory is required to assure Auditors are aware. (DUE DATE: 30-Nov-11)

A question was asked relating to the intent of audit observations. TG Chair clarified it is to verify the NDT Program and Auditor.

Supplemental Scope Extensions - There were no Supplemental Scope Extension audits conducted since June 2011.

Accreditation extensions - Six accreditation extension requests were granted since June 2011. These extensions were due to natural disasters or political unrest in the region. One Audit Extension request was received and disapproved.

Failure Issues - Four audits have failed since February 2011. None of these decisions were overturned.

Lapsed Accreditations – In 2010, five accreditations have lapsed out of 1031 (0.5%). In 2011, two accreditations lapsed out of 406 (0.5%). Goal is less than 10%.

Subscriber NDT Sub Groups – Reviewed.

AC7114

Scott Sullivan (Chair) Alain BouchetLou Truckley David VaughnPhil Keown

AC7114/1

Pete Torelli (Chair) Chris DootsonMike Mitchell Andrea SteenPat Thompson Tony Warren

Luigi Merletti (Agusta Westland) & Sean Wood (Triumph Actuation Systems – Clemmons) to be added to group.

AC7114/2

Bob Hogan (Chair) Bob ReynoldsBobby Scott Mike ClarkDave Vaughn

AC7114/3

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Mike Mitchell (Chair) Greg HallDoug Ladd Uri SolRon Levi David Vaughn

Lou Truckley to be added to group. Ron Levi and Uri Sol to be removed from group.

AC7114/4

Dave Royce (Chair) Carl RocheMike Shiplett Chris StevensonPat Thompson

Filmless RT Sub Group – Add Mike Mitchell and Lou Grijalva to Group.

Merit Sub Group – Agreed to sunset group as NOP-008 has been revised and will be released 15 January 2012.

UT Phased Array Sub Group – Agreed to sunset group per request by Dave Vaughn as AC7114/3 checklist was revised and implemented with over 20 audits including phased array being conducted with no issues.

Major/Minor Sub Group – Agreed to sunset group due to the Nadcap NCR template being changed. No further action was deemed necessary.

Non NDT Subscriber Representatives requested as sub group members. Per the requirements of NTGOP-001 App 1 a vote is required.

Motion made by Dave Vaughn and seconded by Mike Mitchell to approve Keith Griffiths of Rolls Royce plc as a member of the Maintenance Repair and Overhaul (MRO) ad-hoc group and Bob Francoeur, and Matt Gromley of Pratt & Whitney for the Filmless RT ad-hoc group. Motion Passed

ACTION ITEM: PRI Staff to modify the master lists for all sub-groups identified above and publish accordingly.( DUE DATE: 15-Nov-11)

Specific metrics were reviewed associated with audit data. Phil Ford asked if the Task Group wanted to keep the Audit Observations and Red Line Spreadsheets. TG Chair indicated that the TG would not want to lose the data, PRI will continue to input data.

Scott Sullivan asked a question associated with the compliance data as the same high level of NCR’s / Checklist paragraph call outs are identified. TG Chair will be giving a presentation to the Supplier Support Committee to see if this aspect can be addressed.

ACTION ITEM: TG Chair to present to the SSC and provide feedback on any necessary actions for PRI Staff / Task Group. (DUE DATE: 30-Nov-11)

Chris Dootson asked if the trending for compliance issues are reducing over the years. PRI Staff clarified that this is not monitored but could be considered as part of the overall metrics during their meetings.

ACTION ITEM: PRI Staff to investigate if it is possible to trend the compliance jobs over the years to determine if there is a reduction or increase. (DUE DATE: 12-Jan-12)

Scott Sullivan asked about the Delegation Status of Andy Statham. The Subscribers were presented with the metrics (222 NCR’s / 74 Audits were reviewed).

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CONFIRMED MINUTESMotion made by Mike Mitchell and seconded by Alain Bouchet to grant delegation for audit review to Staff Engineer Andy Statham. Task Group waived the requirements as imposed by NOP-003 and NTGOP-001, Appendix I. Motion Passed

ACTION ITEM: PRI Staff to complete necessary internal paperwork to address granting of audit review delegation for Andy Statham. (DUE DATE: 30-Nov-11)

3.0 TG RESOLUTIONS AND CLOSED DISCUSSION POINTS – CLOSED

NUCAP deviations - Deviation #000037 was submitted to the TG Group review. After further discussion, the deviation was withdrawn by the requester.

Audit #138264 – Ballot comments identified a Subscriber recommending a Verification Corrective Action (VCA) to be performed, based on the number of compliance issues identified.

Motion made by Bob Hogan and seconded by Dave Royce to close the audit without a VCA being required on the basis that Boeing plans to visit this company. Motion Passed

Audit #142644 was brought to the attention of the Subscribers. Company, during the first round of NCR responses, decided to discontinue with the Nadcap process. This audit will be FAILED per NOP-011 mode A – Supplier Stops the Audit Process.

4.0 ETHICS AND APPEALS – CLOSED

None presented.

5.0 NEW BUSINESS – CLOSED

Various items of a confidential nature were discussed.

ASTM has recently revised E1417, E1444 & E1742. AC7114/1, /2 & /4 will need to be reviewed to determine if any changes are required to the checklist as a result.

ACTION ITEM: AC7114/1, /2 & /4 sub groups to review the applicable specifications against the checklist and report if any changes are necessary. (DUE DATE: 12-Jan-12)

Auditor Advisory 10-01 associated with Spray Guns was discussed. It was agreed that the advisory should be removed with recommendations for potential checklist changes to address.

ACTION ITEM: PRI Staff to withdraw Supplier advisory 10-01. (DUE DATE: 30-Nov-11)

ACTION ITEM: PT Sub Group to recommend (if any) changes to the PT checklist following the withdrawal of advisory 10-01. Also recommend the possibility of adding a training module for future Auditor Conference sessions on the use of water spray guns. (DUE DATE: 12-Jan-12)

6.0 SUPPLEMENTS – CLOSED

None presented.

7.0 CHAIR REPORT OUT ON THE ROUND TABLE – OPEN

Checklist Vision - NOP-002 defines what is to be in a checklist, each TG shall review their checklist to ensure no “new requirements” are contained in the checklist. NMC requested that the TG’s be flexible on how requirements are met.

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AS9100 Rev C will be implemented as Auditor’s are certified. This may be a problem as many Suppliers rely on the AS9100 system, and there may not be enough Auditors.

Concerns have arisen due to audits in “dangerous” areas of the world, many Auditors do not want to travel to those areas, and extensions are issued. How long will the extensions last? The Nadcap Management Council (NMC) to investigate.

Language issues were discussed that affect the audits, a NMC group will be formed to investigate with the NDT TG Chair participating.

Auditors have had problems when they cannot bring their computers or memory sticks into a Supplier once they arrive on site because they contain cameras or due to security issues.

8.0 PRI REPORT / RAIL / NMC METRICS - OPEN

Motion made by Scott Sullivan and seconded by Dave Vaughn to approve the minutes of the 2011 June meeting as written. Motion Passed

9.0 SUPPLIER REPORT & DISCUSSION - OPEN

10.0 ADHOC PANEL REPORTS - OPEN

Digital Radiography (DR) – Originally a single checklist was going to be used for DR. There will now be a separate checklist for each technique, Computed Radiography (CR) and Digital Detector Array (DDA). It is planned to finalize the DDA checklists early 2012, when completed test audits will be conducted. Suppliers will be needed for these test audits. The CR checklist will be later in the year.

UT Phased Array – Items have been included in AC7114/3. Team has been sunsetted.

NAS 410 Rev 3 – Decided that the Group would be sunsetted until Revision 4 is released.

Eddy Current checklist (AC7114/5) – Two test audits have been completed, with the objective of finding problems with the checklist. Following this meeting the checklist will be balloted. Audits may commence 2nd quarter 2012.

UT High Energy/discs/shafts – Investigation under way.

MRO team – Ready for test audits, need to find candidates. Mark Aubele identified that the NMC has requested that no test audits be conducted at this time and the MRO group is placed on hold. It is believed that aspects in the current NDT checklists address MRO expectations as there are MRO companies accredited for Nadcap NDT.

Readdressed the sunsetting of the Supplier Merit & Major / Minor Sub Groups Auditor Development – Still in the early stages, meetings and discussions under way. This may be

combined with the Auditor Conference sub-group.

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11.0 NADCAP AND NDT PROCEDURE REVIEW - OPEN

The following documents have been revised and the revisions discussed: NIP 4-01, NIP 6-01, NIP 7-01, NIP 7-02, NIP 7-04, NIP 7-08, NOP-004, NOP-006, NOP-008, NOP-009, NOP-011, NTGOP-001 Appendix 1. All documents are available on eAuditNet “Resources-Documents-Procedures”.

A sub team is established to review NTGOP-001 Appendix 1, Scott Sullivan, Gary White, Venicia Queen, and Mike Ashton, have volunteered.

ACTION ITEM: PRI to send procedure to review team and follow-up with comments or proposed changes. (Due Date: 15–Nov-11)

12.0 CLARIFICATION DATABASE - OPEN

Andy Bakewell presented the clarification database and open items were reviewed.

Motion made by Scott Sullivan and seconded by Chris Stevenson to approve the definition of annual to be 12 months +/- 3 months. Discussion ensued, many questions arose, this definition may affect all Task Groups. Motion Tabled

Phil Keown and Bobby Scott agreed to be Subscriber Task Group representatives for the clarification database.

ACTION ITEM: PRI Staff to ensure Phil Keown and Bobby Scott are added to the circulation lists regarding the clarification database. (DUE DATE 15-Nov-11).

ACTION ITEM: Phil Keown will raise the definition of frequency to the Standardization Committee for consistency amongst Task Groups. (DUE DATE 19-Oct-11).

A suggestion was made to incorporate the clarifications database with the discussion of the RAIL closure items to ensure all aspects were captured from the meeting.

ACTION ITEM: PRI Staff to include reference to clarification database review to the agenda with the RAIL closure items. (DUE DATE 15-Nov-11).

13.0 CHAIR REPORT OUT ON THE NMC - OPEN

Bobby Scott reported; standardization was discussed, as well as the future of the program.

Embraer has signed on to participate in the Nadcap program. They are pending.

14.0 SSC REPORT OUT ON THE NMC - OPEN

Gary White reported:

Major/minor NCR’s has been a topic and Suppliers have had a concern, the SSC Leadership team has been investigating. They determined that no significant difference has occurred on major NCR’s for the past six months. They will continue their investigation and report out next meeting.

First time Supplier orientation meeting was implemented.

Established a Supplier Support Center at the Nadcap meeting.

The Supplier survey has been doing well. Goal was 1500 respondents, they have had 1522. The survey will continue for a few more months.

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CONFIRMED MINUTESMentoring: 7 individuals have volunteered. There are 3 or 4 requests a month for mentors.

SSC is evaluating cycle times and what support that they can provide to reduce.

There was a flow down panel discussion, from a Subscriber, an Auditor, and a Supplier.

15.0 TECHNICAL ISSUES AND OPEN DISCUSSION ITEMS - OPEN

No issues from Staff.

With recent revisions to the ASTM’s, what are exceptions for compliance to the new revisions? Most Subscribers would expect an immediate compliance, unless they have their documents, which they would revise accordingly and publish.

Question on calibration of light meters, will readings in 10ths be required? The penetrant and quality sub groups will discuss.

ACTION ITEM: AC7114 & /1 sub groups to review the calibration of light meters in regard to whether the readings in 10ths is required and report out. (DUE DATE 24-Feb-12)

When will Nadcap review the ASTM’s for incorporation into the checklists? This is under review by the sub groups affected and the checklist will be revised accordingly.

Will the Suppliers be given access to the Digital RT checklist for input while it’s being developed? There is a draft checklist being developed by Subscribers and will be made available to Suppliers for review as part of the sub-team as the review process continues.

AC7114/1 paragraph 5.5.1.5 was discussed, emulsifier concentration. Addressed in the proposed checklist changes sheet.

Major findings in the compliance section were discussed, there seems to be no change in this area with many NCR’s in compliance. Why? The SSC has instituted the mentoring program to help with this; we need to focus efforts in this area. Why do some Suppliers have problems in this arena and others don’t? Supplier support was encouraged for the mentoring program. Suppliers are asked to contact the SSC or PRI Staff if they could benefit from the mentoring program.

ACTION ITEM: PRI Staff to determine if there is way to include the advertisement of the mentoring program into the audit close out meeting. (DUE DATE: 31-Jan-12)

What is the expectation of the 3 compliance jobs if the facility has one Inspector? If there are three compliance jobs from different Subscribers can they be processed at the same time? Answer - If there is one Inspector at a facility they can process the three compliance jobs provided the same technique is used.

ACTION ITEM: PRI Staff to write an NDT Newsletter article to address and clarify the expectations of the compliance jobs. If only one inspector is employed then the inspector processes all jobs for available customers. If three components from different Subscribers then they must be processed separately unless the same technique applies. (DUE DATE: 22-Dec-11)

Is there a requirement for white light intensity for indication verification during penetrant inspection? If there are they would be in the checklist or Supplement. No resolution as requirements vary.

Light meters for RT, do they need to be calibrated for both foot candles and candelas? This item will be added to the Clarification Database.

ACTION ITEM: Clarification database to include clarification for RT light meters. AC7114/4, par. 5.6.5 already addresses this issue. They need to be calibrated for both foot candles and candelas. (DUE DATE: 30-Nov-11)

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16.0 DIGITAL RADIOGRAPHY PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION - OPEN

Hank Sikorski of Pratt & Whitney gave a presentation on digital radiography at Pratt & Whitney and the activities of the MAI Group.

17.0 NEW BUSINESS - OPEN

The NMC performed an oversight audit during the June 2011 meeting. Finding were presented and discussed.

Smart checklist: A report was given on the NMC Standardization Committee and the “smart checklist” (also known as “Checklist on Demand”) .

Motion made by Gary White and seconded by Dave Vaughn to approve Jonathan Pugh of Exova as a Supplier Voting Member and Martyn Bills of Exova as an Alternate Supplier Voting Member.Motion Passed

Fast drying solvents for PT were discussed, is there an approval for them, what’s allowed? ASTM decided that laboratory grades are acceptable.

Does the photo of the TAM panel need to be a photo or can the image be displayed on a computer monitor. It was determined that it must be a photograph.

ACTION ITEM: PRI Staff to add to clarification database that the photograph of the TAM Panel shall be a photograph. Images displayed on a computer monitor are not acceptable. (DUE DATE: 30-Nov-11)

If the expiration date on penetrant has passed should the material be discarded after that date? Discussion ensued. The decision was that the material shall not be discarded provided the material is rendering acceptable test results, i.e. TAM panel, it is OK to use.

ACTION ITEM: PRI Staff to add to clarification database that penetrant material may continue to be used after the date of expiration provided the material is rendering acceptable test results,( i.e. TAM panel). (DUE DATE: 30-Nov-11)

Question was brought up regarding the use of the same qualification examination test samples in subsequent exams. AIA had clarified this and determined that this practice is acceptable only when other test samples are not available and there is no other alternative.

ACTION ITEM: PRI Staff to add to AC7114, para 5.3.13 CAG a new bullet to add this clarification from the AIA. (DUE DATE: 30-Nov-11)

18.0 METHOD CHAIR REPORT OUT - OPEN

The Method Chairs reported on the Sub Groups:

AC7114 - No new issues.

AC7114/1 – A couple of items being worked, ASTM E 1417M-11will be reviewed for items to be Including in the checklist (refer to earlier action item).

AC7114/2 - A new checklist question may be added to address the adequacy of the technique used. In addition ASTM E 1444M-11 has been issued and will be reviewed by the sub-group for other potential changes.

AC7114/3 - The phased array group has been sunsetted.

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AC7114/4- No new issues, ASTM E 1742M-11 has been reviewed – no impact to the checklist anticipated.

AC7114/5 - Eddy Current checklist has had two test audits and the checklist will be balloted soon.

19.0 CHECKLIST DISCUSSION - OPEN

Proposed revision to the checklists were presented, once changes are made the checklists will be balloted: AC7114, AC7114/1, AC7114/2, AC7114/3 and AC7114/4. See b-frm-04 for proposed changes.

ACTION ITEM: PRI Staff to make changes accordingly to the checklist following discussion of the proposed changes. (DUE DATE: 30-Dec-11)

ACTION ITEM: PRI Staff to determine a more effective method to review checklist change proposals. Proposal to include both Subscriber and Supplier participation. (DUE DATE: 30-Dec-11)

ACTION ITEM: PRI Staff to create verbiage for AC7114 paragraph 2.1 to address past finding. This to address clarification of quality system identification and where to record in the checklist. Now added to b-frm-04 for ballot. (DUE DATE: 30-Dec-11)

20.0 SUPPLIER SYMPOSIUM – NCR RESPONSES - OPEN

Following concerns identified previously by Suppliers, regarding the expectations of addressing NCR’s with NDT, a symposium was given to clarify the expectations of PRI Staff and Subscribers.

21.0 DEVELOP AGENDA FOR FEBRUARY 2012 - OPEN

Off Agenda Item: Shariq Parvez of PRI gave a presentation regarding the eAuditNet ballot process.

The new agenda format developed by NMC will be utilized for the meeting in February (San Diego). The NMC meeting will be held Thursday morning, instead of Wednesday morning allowing a more accurate TG Report out to be presented as the TG will be able to meet for the full three days.

22.0 RAIL REVIEW - OPEN

Completed and new items added to the rail.

23.0 MEETING FACILITATION FEEDBACK - OPEN

Completed. Based upon discussion at Planning and Operations meeting this is no longer required, however commodities are encouraged to obtain some form of feedback.

24.0 BREAK OUT SESSIONS - OPEN

Completed

ADJOURNMENT – 20-OCT-11 – Meeting was adjourned at 5:00 p.m.

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Minutes Prepared by: David N. RoycePratt & [email protected]

***** For PRI Staff use only: ******

Are procedural/form changes required based on changes/actions approved during this meeting? (select one)

YES* NO

*If yes, the following information is required:

Documents requiring revision:

Who is responsible: Due date:

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