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From: [email protected] on behalf of Alexa D. O"Brien

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: Re: Re: [september17discuss] $6000?

Date: Thursday, September 22, 2011 5:17:00 AM

Jem,

Don't be a retard. The food fund has 15,000 in it. Spare us.

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 8:48 PM, < [email protected]> wrote:Are flyers really more important than feeding people?

On 09/20/11, Alexa D. O'Brien<[email protected]> wrote:

Donate to the wall street occupation [email protected] 347 640 0925 Paging Publius. #occupywallstreet has

FLYER FUND. DONATEhttp://bit.ly/oo538N

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 7:47 PM, < [email protected]> wrote:

I recently posted a message suggesting that we try to feed the hungry, but no one seems to have

commented on it. If we have $6000, I would like to suggest the idea one more time. I feel it would amounttom putting our money where our mouth is.

On 09/20/11, Doug Singsen<[email protected]> wrote:

Why not use the $6000 in food money for flyers? I believe Justin Wedes has access to the account.

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Jon Good <[email protected]> wrote:

I was only able to crank out 100, which I left on the table by the front of the GA. I'll try and print more once

my boss has gone home. Nobody else in my office is sympathetic to the occupation so I've got to be

sneaky.

Rock on,

Jon

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 2:46 PM, MAd Hatter <[email protected]> wrote:

Who can print flyers? We need thousands.

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Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com


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From: [email protected] on behalf of [email protected]


Subject: Re: Re: Re: [september17discuss] $6000?

Date: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 8:48:13 PM

Are flyers really more important than feeding people?


Donate to the wall street occupation [email protected] 347 640 0925 Paging Publius. #occupywallstreet has FLYER

FUND. DONATEhttp://bit.ly/oo538N


I recently posted a message suggesting that we try to feed the hungry, but no one seems to have commented

on it. If we have $6000, I would like to suggest the idea one more time. I feel it would amount tom putting our

money where our mouth is.





my boss has gone home. Nobody else in my office is sympathetic to the occupation so I've got to be sneaky.

Rock on,

Jon



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Subject: Re: Re: Re: [september17discuss] Does everyone know about this "counter protest?"

Date: Friday, September 23, 2011 5:37:39 PM

that was supposed to be "champagne snobs" (but I kind of like "snogs")

On 09/23/11, [email protected] wrote:

You guys are brilliant! The world gives you champagne snogs and you make sparkling apple juice.

On 09/23/11, Justin Wedes<[email protected]> wrote:

Report back - we went with suits on and silver platters, but there were no champagners to be found... Still did our

shtick :)

Justin Wedes

Activist & Educator, Brooklyn

Use your voice!

Web: www.OurSchoolsNYC.org

Twitter: NYCPubSchooler

~

There's something going on in the Islands... Check it out at USUncut.org/yeslab

~

On Sep 23, 2011, at 4:36 PM, [email protected] wrote:

Sounds like Billionaires for Bush to me ;) Even if it s not we should tell everyone it is and

marvel at how droll their dry sarcasm is.

On 09/23/11, J Wedes< [email protected]> wrote:

very possible that its creative street theatre. in any case, i'm tweeting it!!!

-j

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:14 AM, grimwomyn <[email protected]> wrote:

uberlike :)

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:12 AM, gail zawacki <[email protected]> wrote:

Yeah we wouldn't want those handcuffs to be uncomfortable.

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:10 AM, grimwomyn <[email protected]> wrote:

Let's hope that the open container arrests go smoothly-- I just rsvpd and encouraged them

to bring as much champagne as possible,

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Matthew Presto <[email protected]> wrote:

This is the Facebook event: https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=127034944063832






http://www.ourschoolsnyc.org/

http://usuncut.org/yeslab








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On Sep 23, 2011, at 9:57 AM, grimwomyn wrote:

Yeah the open container law alone will get him scooped up. Did you read

the comments? Hilarious even gawker readers think he sucks.

On Sep 23, 2011 9:55 AM, "gail zawacki" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Presumably they will be arrested for drinking on the street.

>

> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 9:41 AM, J.A. Myerson

< [email protected]>wrote:

>

>> Snobby Illiterati to Protest Wall St. ‘Hippies’ With Champagne Toast

>>

>>

>> http://gawker.com/5843209/snobby-illiteraterati-to-protest-wall-st-

hippies-with-champagne-toast

>>

>> -->> J.A. Myerson

>> http://www.jamyerson.com

>> 347.688.0241

>>

>>





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Subject: Re: Re: Re: [september17discuss] Re: Outreach

Date: Monday, September 19, 2011 9:04:13 PM

Oh, and I have to spend some time not getting fired for a few days, so if anyone likes the idea below, please

bring it to the food committee and GA for me.


Eric and the food committee have done an amazing job collecting huge piles of food and even cash. Maybe we

should should be feeding those who are truly hungry. Although, as some have pointed out we are a little far from

real people, we cold probably attract some people that really need to eat to the square. And it may be good to

take food to neighborhoods where food is likely to be needed.

I considered the idea of setting up a soup kitchen on the sidewalk in front of Trinity Church, but I think it would be

patronizing. We don't feed people for press, but because we are trying to

help our fellow humans.

I love all you people!

On 09/19/11, grimwomyn<[email protected]> wrote:

in the style of having the paper over their face in some way so they can't be immediately recognized.

On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 11:38 AM, gwomyn <[email protected]> wrote:

Also, for a street action, I thought it might be good to go around

with a mobile phone, sharpies and paper and ask people to write down

why they are the 99%, take their photo and send it to the

wearethe99percent tumblr and cross post on all other media as well....

NYC natives are TOTALLY behind this in everyway as we have to deal

with Wall Street types in every area of our lives and the people who

work for those institutions are as douchy as the missions that they

serve, and everyone you will meet on the street has an amazing story.It will really resonate with people across the country/world as well,

who are all watching this intensely and supporting us with their

hearts, minds, dreams, wishes, and hopes.

If I can get a twitter list of people doing this and they just send

the photos to their twitter streams I will take care of sending to the

99% tumblr so that they all wind up at the right place with minimal

effort.

-priscilla

On Sep 19, 11:24 am, grimwomyn <[email protected]> wrote:

> I wont be able to make a meeting today-- but I am down for anything during> the day during this week, just let me know. Also, any action at that

> conference will be covered by all the internets as it is being held by

> Mashable-- make it loud, peaceful and proud.

>

> mucho amor to all of you-priscilla

>

> On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 11:21 AM, MAd Hatter <[email protected]>wrote:

>

>

>















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>

>

>

> > Yes. We need to do outreach... This looks good.

> > Is anybody up for an outreach meeting later today? We need a flyer

> > and we need to be talking to the 99%.

>

> > On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 11:05 AM, grimwomyn <[email protected]> wrote:

> > > What does the group think about going to this conference for outreach and

> > > publicity to call people downtown?http://mashable.com/sgs/possible

> > action

> > > there since there are so many corporate sponsors?




http://mashable.com/sgs/possible



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From: [email protected] on behalf of Lucas Vazquez


Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: [september17discuss] $15,000?

Date: Thursday, September 22, 2011 5:29:52 PM

if i understood well, why would we charge for food if we have more than 10,000dollars

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 5:25 PM, < [email protected]> wrote:retard is a litlle harsh :) We could make rice and beans with vegatables for about $3/plate, which comes to

about 5,000 meals we could be serving to people who are having a hard time feeding ther families right now. I

wouldn't go around collecting truly anti-social homeless off the street, but we need people, and the people we

really want to help are the ones not thriving in the current economic climate. I wasn't actually going to talk

about this anymore, but since you brought it up...

By the way Alexa, I've been meaning to tell you I really appreciate all of the hard work you've been doing.

(Not sarcasm.)


Jem,








I recently posted a message suggesting that we try to feed the hungry, but no one seems to havecommented on it. If we have $6000, I would like to suggest the idea one more time. I feel it would amount

tom putting our money where our mouth is.




I was only able to crank out 100, which I left on the table by the front of the GA. I'll try and print more

once my boss has gone home. Nobody else in my office is sympathetic to the occupation so I've got to

be sneaky.

Rock on,

Jon














http://tel:347/

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Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: [september17discuss] $15,000?


retard is a litlle harsh :) We could make rice and beans with vegatables for about $3/plate, which comes to


wouldn't go around collecting truly anti-social homeless off the street, but we need people, and the people wereally want to help are the ones not thriving in the current economic climate. I wasn't actually going to talk about

this anymore, but since you brought it up...

By the way Alexa, I've been meaning to tell you I really appreciate all of the hard work you've been doing. (Not

sarcasm.)


Jem,









commented on it. If we have $6000, I would like to suggest the idea one more time. I feel it would amount







sneaky.

Rock on,

Jon



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www.alexaobrien.com










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Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: [september17discuss] electricity


I was just watching the live feed and noticed the message that police stole the gas. This is a long shot, but at the

GA Sunday, I met a guy who was charging his cellphone using a solar array he made out of converters

scavanged from yard lights. "It's good to have a degree in electronics" he said. If you are out there, is it possiblefor you to create a bigger version that could run some computers? Or is there any one else out there with that

kind of capability? Rechargable batteries would be important for this i would think. Like I said, its a long shot.


Oh, and I have to spend some time not getting fired for a few days, so if anyone likes the idea below, please

bring it to the food committee and GA for me.


Eric and the food committee have done an amazing job collecting huge piles of food and even cash. Maybe we

should should be feeding those who are truly hungry. Although, as some have pointed out we are a little far from

real people, we cold probably attract some people that really need to eat to the square. And it may be good to

take food to neighborhoods where food is likely to be needed.

I considered the idea of setting up a soup kitchen on the sidewalk in front of Trinity Church, but I think it would be

patronizing. We don't feed people for press, but because we are trying to

help our fellow humans.

I love all you people!


in the style of having the paper over their face in some way so they can't be immediately recognized.

On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 11:38 AM, gwomyn <[email protected]> wrote:

Also, for a street action, I thought it might be good to go around

with a mobile phone, sharpies and paper and ask people to write down

why they are the 99%, take their photo and send it to the

wearethe99percent tumblr and cross post on all other media as well....

NYC natives are TOTALLY behind this in everyway as we have to deal

with Wall Street types in every area of our lives and the people who

work for those institutions are as douchy as the missions that they

serve, and everyone you will meet on the street has an amazing story.

It will really resonate with people across the country/world as well,

who are all watching this intensely and supporting us with their

hearts, minds, dreams, wishes, and hopes.

If I can get a twitter list of people doing this and they just send

the photos to their twitter streams I will take care of sending to the

99% tumblr so that they all wind up at the right place with minimal

effort.

-priscilla

On Sep 19, 11:24 am, grimwomyn <[email protected]> wrote:

> I wont be able to make a meeting today-- but I am down for anything during

> the day during this week, just let me know. Also, any action at that













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> conference will be covered by all the internets as it is being held by

> Mashable-- make it loud, peaceful and proud.

>

> mucho amor to all of you-priscilla

>

> On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 11:21 AM, MAd Hatter <[email protected]>wrote:

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > Yes. We need to do outreach... This looks good.

> > Is anybody up for an outreach meeting later today? We need a flyer

> > and we need to be talking to the 99%.

>

> > On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 11:05 AM, grimwomyn <[email protected]> wrote:

> > > What does the group think about going to this conference for outreach and

> > > publicity to call people downtown?http://mashable.com/sgs/possible

> > action

> > > there since there are so many corporate sponsors?









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From: [email protected] behalf of Alexa D. O"Brien

To: [email protected]; [email protected]

Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: [september17discuss] headsets instead of amplification.


Jem. I am sorry I use the term retad. I was sick and feverish and cranky. I love you. Alexa

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 6:15 PM, < [email protected]> wrote:

I'm not up on the mechanics of this exactly, but most people have headsets and a lot of people have ipods. Do we have thecapability to do podcasts? One ipod could probably run a few sets of headphones if cheap headphone amps could be found. I'm

not sure how we would work the microphone thing though. Also it would not be as inviting to passers-by.

I'm actually quite fond of the people's microphone: unifying and fun. It may be that in a huge crowd we could have small groups

with headphones dispersed around the crowd to do people's mic on a large scale.

On 09/22/11, Matthew Bralow<[email protected]> wrote:

regarding one possible very effective use of money... perhaps a

contest for artists - $100 - $300 award for most powerful graphic or

slogan.. to be used to promote this movement.

also, this may be outrageously expensive... but who knows... maybe a

company sympathetic to cause would be willing to donate old

equipment... or sell deeply discounted...

to get around sound amplification issue, maybe we can use what the

zoo, museums, tour guides and the UN uses.... wireless headsets for

the meetings, debates, special guest speakers, etc.... maybe even have

translator headsets? just did a google search and attached some

links. we would of course need LOTS of these (and a way and procedure

to charge the batteries etc)... but just an idea to help us get around

this important sound amplification issue

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http://www.articlesbase.com/international-business-articles/translation-headsets-interpreter-headphones-how-they-are-used-

2661973.html

http://www.barinas.com/http://www.m-rcom.com/index.php

http://www.ubiqus.com/site/GB/Services/Services/Interpretation,C2796,I2795.htm?

KM_Session=9f2e571d58cf9371ca7cf358d5854fd1

http://www.ubiqus.com/site/GB/Services/Services/Audience_Response_and_Mobile_Phone_Conference_Texting,C2875,I2796.htm?


http://www.abbn.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=WSPFA&Category_Code=GLS

http://www.guideport.com/sennheiser/guideport_eng.nsf/root/museum-exhibition-headphones-guide.html

http://www.m-rcom.com/interpretation-equipment-hire.php

or find a translation/interpretor services company that has old

equipment they're willing to donate/sell

http://www.mfmci.com/sis.html

http://latranslation.com/interpreters/international-conference-call-services

http://www.trustedtranslations.com/translation-services/onsite-interpretation.asphttp://tembua.com/Conference

http://www.easyworldnet.com/eng/interpreti.html

http://www.conferencelanguageservices.com/interpreting.html

http://www.axistranslations.com/conference-interpreter.html

http://www.kworks.in/interpretation.htm

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 5:16 AM, Alexa D. O'Brien <[email protected]> wrote:

> Jem,

> Don't be a retard. The food fund has 15,000 in it. Spare us.

>

> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 8:48 PM, < [email protected]> wrote:









http://www.articlesbase.com/international-business-articles/translation-headsets-interpreter-headphones-how-they-are-used-2661973.html


http://www.barinas.com/

http://www.m-rcom.com/index.php

http://www.ubiqus.com/site/GB/Services/Services/Interpretation,C2796,I2795.htm?KM_Session=9f2e571d58cf9371ca7cf358d5854fd1


http://www.ubiqus.com/site/GB/Services/Services/Audience_Response_and_Mobile_Phone_Conference_Texting,C2875,I2796.htm?KM_Session=9f2e571d58cf9371ca7cf358d5854fd1







http://www.trustedtranslations.com/translation-services/onsite-interpretation.asp

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>>

>> Are flyers really more important than feeding people?

>>

>>

>> On 09/20/11, Alexa D. O'Brien<[email protected]> wrote:

>> Donate to the wall street occupation [email protected] 347 640 0925

>> Paging Publius. #occupywallstreet has FLYER FUND. DONATEhttp://bit.ly/oo538N

>>

>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 7:47 PM, < [email protected]> wrote:

>>>>>> I recently posted a message suggesting that we try to feed the hungry,

>>> but no one seems to have commented on it. If we have $6000, I would like to

>>> suggest the idea one more time. I feel it would amount tom putting our

>>> money where our mouth is.

>>>

>>>

>>> On 09/20/11, Doug Singsen<[email protected]> wrote:

>>> Why not use the $6000 in food money for flyers? I believe Justin Wedes

>>> has access to the account.

>>>

>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Jon Good < [email protected]>

>>> wrote:

>>>>

>>>> I was only able to crank out 100, which I left on the table by the front

>>>> of the GA. I'll try and print more once my boss has gone home. Nobody else>>>> in my office is sympathetic to the occupation so I've got to be sneaky.

>>>>

>>>> Rock on,

>>>> Jon

>>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 2:46 PM, MAd Hatter

>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>> Who can print flyers? We need thousands.

>>>

>>

>>

>>

>> --

>> [email protected]

>> www.alexaobrien.com

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>

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From: [email protected] behalf of J Wedes



Date: Friday, September 23, 2011 12:06:22 AM

where does legal team stand on the sound permitting process?

-j

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 6:15 PM, < [email protected]> wrote:I'm not up on the mechanics of this exactly, but most people have headsets and a lot of people have ipods. Do we have the

capability to do podcasts? One ipod could probably run a few sets of headphones if cheap headphone amps could be found. I'm


I'm actually quite fond of the people's microphone: unifying and fun. It may be that in a huge crowd we could have small groups

with headphones dispersed around the crowd to do people's mic on a large scale.





also, this may be outrageously expensive... but who knows... maybe acompany sympathetic to cause would be willing to donate old



zoo, museums, tour guides and the UN uses.... wireless headsets for

the meetings, debates, special guest speakers, etc.... maybe even have





-------------------


2661973.html












http://www.mfmci.com/sis.htmlhttp://latranslation.com/interpreters/international-conference-call-services








> Jem,






















































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>>


>>

>>



>> Paging Publius. #occupywallstreet has FLYER FUND. DONATEhttp://bit.ly/oo538N

>>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 7:47 PM, < [email protected]> wrote:

>>>

>>> I recently posted a message suggesting that we try to feed the hungry,

>>> but no one seems to have commented on it. If we have $6000, I would like to

>>> suggest the idea one more time. I feel it would amount tom putting our


>>>

>>>




>>>


>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>> I was only able to crank out 100, which I left on the table by the front

>>>> of the GA. I'll try and print more once my boss has gone home. Nobody else

>>>> in my office is sympathetic to the occupation so I've got to be sneaky.

>>>>

>>>> Rock on,

>>>> Jon



>>>>>


>>>

>>

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I'm not up on the mechanics of this exactly, but most people have headsets and a lot of people have ipods. Do we have the

capability to do podcasts? One ipod could probably run a few sets of headphones if cheap headphone amps could be found. I'm


I'm actually quite fond of the people's microphone: unifying and fun. It may be that in a huge crowd we could have small groupswith headphones dispersed around the crowd to do people's mic on a large scale.





also, this may be outrageously expensive... but who knows... maybe a

company sympathetic to cause would be willing to donate old



zoo, museums, tour guides and the UN uses.... wireless headsets for the meetings, debates, special guest speakers, etc.... maybe even have





-------------------


2661973.html
















http://www.easyworldnet.com/eng/interpreti.htmlhttp://www.conferencelanguageservices.com/interpreting.html




> Jem,


>


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>>

>>



>> Paging Publius. #occupywallstreet has FLYER FUND. DONATE http://bit.ly/oo538N

>>

>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 7:47 PM, < [email protected]> wrote:

>>>

>>> I recently posted a message suggesting that we try to feed the hungry,

>>> but no one seems to have commented on it. If we have $6000, I would like to>>> suggest the idea one more time. I feel it would amount tom putting our


>>>

>>>




>>>


>>> wrote:

>>>>

>>>> I was only able to crank out 100, which I left on the table by the front

>>>> of the GA. I'll try and print more once my boss has gone home. Nobody else

>>>> in my office is sympathetic to the occupation so I've got to be sneaky.>>>>

>>>> Rock on,

>>>> Jon



>>>>>


>>>

>>

>>

>>

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>>

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Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [september17discuss] $15,000?


no not charge for it, I was just pointing out how many meals we could give away with the cash we have

On 09/22/11, Lucas Vazquez<[email protected]> wrote:

if i understood well, why would we charge for food if we have more than 10,000 dollars

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 5:25 PM, < [email protected]> wrote:

retard is a litlle harsh :) We could make rice and beans with vegatables for about $3/plate, which comes to


wouldn't go around collecting truly anti-social homeless off the street, but we need people, and the people we

really want to help are the ones not thriving in the current economic climate. I wasn't actually going to talk

about this anymore, but since you brought it up...

By the way Alexa, I've been meaning to tell you I really appreciate all of the hard work you've been doing. (Not

sarcasm.)


Jem,














I was only able to crank out 100, which I left on the table by the front of the GA. I'll try and print moreonce my boss has gone home. Nobody else in my office is sympathetic to the occupation so I've got to

be sneaky.

Rock on,

Jon














http://tel:347/

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http://tel:347/









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From: Loyd, Jordan T.

To: "[email protected]"

Cc: Yum, Ilhwan

Subject: Re: SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] RE: [september17discuss} Outreach to Workers

Date: Sunday, September 18, 2011 2:25:33 PM

Thanks!

From : Thomas Ryan <[email protected]>To : Loyd, Jordan T.Cc : Aaron Barr <[email protected]>Sent : Sun Sep 18 14:23:15 2011Subject: Fw: SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] RE: [september17discuss} Outreach to Workers

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From: Conor <[email protected]>

Sender: [email protected]: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 14:17:22 -0400To: [email protected]<[email protected]>ReplyTo: [email protected]: <[email protected]><[email protected]>Subject: SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] RE: [september17discuss} Outreachto Workers

+ 1,000,000 to Jackie's proposal on working people / union struggles outreach andsolidarity.

Also, why not invite people to protest Troy Davis's execution date at Liberty Plaza

this Monday?

-Conor

On Sep 18, 2011, at 1:43 PM, "Jackie DiSalvo" < [email protected]> wrote:

We need more outreach to workers. The best way to do that is by showing

solidarity with them. We can start by passing resolutions announcing our

support for Hotel Trades Council workers on strike at the Central Park

Boathouse restaurant and the struggles of NYC Local 1199, SEIU (SocialService Employees Union) at Brookdale Hospital and Long Island

Hospital in Brooklyn, also those facing layoffs including school aides,

Local 372, DC (District Council) 37, AFSCME (American Federation State,

County and Municipal Employees) and school bus drivers from the NYC

ATU (Amalgamated Transit Union); of the CWA (Communication Workers

of America) against demands for concessions at Verizon, of the struggle

of Local 100 TWU (Transit Workers Union), to amend the NY anti-strike

Taylor Law and of the UFT (United Federation of Teachers) to extend the











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Millionaire's Tax and the NNU (National Nurses United) to get a financial

transactions tax.

-----Original Message-----

From: [email protected]

[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nathan

Schneider Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 10:55 AM


Subject: [september17discuss] WNV video: #OccupyWallStreet begins,

and improvises

A bit of video from yesterday. Will try to fix the aspect ratio or

whatever you call it. Thanks to all who spoke with us! See you in a

few hours!

http://wagingnonviolence .org/2011/09/occupywallstreet-begins-and-

improvises/

Nathan

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Nathan Schneider

Editor, Waging Nonviolence

http://wagingnonviolence .org



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From: [email protected] on behalf of grimwomyn

To: september17

Subject: SPAM-LOW: [september17discuss] Another Canadian News Outlet wants an interview (at 4:20 EST if possible)


From a General Assembly member if possible:

http://www.cjad.com/Shows/AaronRandShow.aspxContact: Dan Spector514.989.3813Twitter: @danspector






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From: [email protected] on behalf of J Wedes

To: september17

Subject: SPAM-LOW: [september17discuss] congas at solidarity center

Date: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 10:38:51 AM

hey everyone,

can any1 drop by the solidarity center today and bring my red congas frombloombergville over the liberty plaza for occupy wall street?

thx,

justin









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From: [email protected] on behalf of Vicente Rubio

To: september17

Subject: SPAM-LOW: [september17discuss] Invitation to URPE conference

Date: Monday, September 19, 2011 11:35:49 AM

Hi all,

this is an email Chris Rude, one of the participants at the EconomyForum, sent this invitation to upcoming URPE conference. I'm not sureif thematic economy group was finally formed or not. If someone canput me in contact with a member of the group, please do so. I wouldlike to talk with someone interested in moving this forward, I wouldgladly help but I can't do this on my own. I think this would be agood opportunity to do some outreach, and reinforce our thematicgroups.

Thanks,

Vicente.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Hi Everyone!

I can't tell you how excited I am to finally do some radical teachingin the street in an action concretely coordinated with a politicalevent. Knowledge is ultimately about people taking power, not justgetting ahead.

Meanwhile, I would like to invite you to a 2-day URPE conference/membership meeting that will take place 1-2 October at St. FrancisCollege in downtown Brooklyn. The theme of the 1 October conferenceis "The War on the Working Class" and will consist opening and closing

plenaries and a set of workshops/panels each of which will bringtogether people who have a theoretical perspective on the issues andpeople who are actively involved in organizing around these issues(some people do both, of course.) The theme of the 2 Octobermembership meeting is "The Role of URPE today."

Dean Baker has agreed to speak at the opening plenary, and arepresentative of the University of Wisconsin's Teaching Assistants Association (the union of the university's gradate teaching assistantsthat initiated the takeover of the state capital) will speak at theclosing. One goal of the two-day event is to revitalize URPE so thatit can play a role in these difficult times. Another goal is to link up URPE economists with New York City activists.

My invitation is specific: why don't we just move our Open EconomyForum to Brooklyn?

Thank you,

Chris RudeURPE Steering Committee









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From: [email protected] on behalf of gail zawacki

To: september17

Subject: SPAM-LOW: [september17discuss] status of arrests


I saw a report on the livestream feed that

1. Police are interfering with attempts to bring food and water into the park

2. A young girl is still in custody.

I'm going to call Lt. Speechley later this morning and request an update - before Ido, does anyone have information on the above, or any of the other arrests?

thanks,Gail









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From: [email protected] on behalf of Marina Sitrin


Subject: SPAM-LOW: [september17discuss] Work, Dignity and Social Change


That was the slogan of the Unemployed Workers Movement network (the

autonomous ones) in Argentina after the economic crisis in 2001.

Within each of these areas there were other specific topics - but theykept with the generalities most of the time and it was quiteeffective. It is also a lot easier to first agree to a few generalprinciples, and from there get specific than the reverse.

Dignity of course is less a demand and more a proclamation of self/collective selves.

There is a long and wonderful history of sharing organizing principleswith social movements around the world. For example, the recuperatedworkplace movement in Argentina uses the MST (Landless Movement of Brazil) slogan, Occupy, Resist Produce.

Just a thought.

I will be in the Plaza shortly.

Marina

--Seamos realistas, hagamos lo imposible ~ che









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From: [email protected] on behalf of Doug Singsen


Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: [september17discuss] #OccupyWallStreet stays alive by becoming #WeAreThe99

Date: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 1:37:59 AM

I don't know if that's what happened in Spain, but it seems a little premature andgrandiose to be drafting a constitution at this point, given that there are only a few

hundred people occupying a small park in a single city. Rather than trying to createa new society on such a miniscule basis, our time might be better spent findingways to connect with the everyday, practical concerns of people facing the loss of their jobs, health care, housing, retirement, quality education for their children, etc.In order to have any shot at creating a new society, we need a LOT more people onboard than we have now (either in Zucotti Park specifically or in the movement as awhole), and raising demands that connect with peoples' daily lives is the best way toexpand from a small, insular group of activists to a broad movement - and that's thespirit that I understood Luis's proposal to be made in.

Doug

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 12:42 AM, NicolasMoselleAllen <[email protected]>wrote:

If I arrive in time tomorrow I will try to propose it at the General Assembly. When are they planning on holding the GA?

I also plan on making a proposal that I think would be compatible withthe image "rebranding" proposal: that we attempt to reframe ourcommunication with the world by drafting a Constitution, a set of common values that could represent us and the society that we as amovement are trying to model-forth, rather than proposing "Demands" aswe've been calling them. It's my understanding that this is what

happened in Spain, with considerable success.

OK!

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Luis Moreno-Caballud<[email protected]> wrote:> Yes, thanks! Let's make it #Wearethe99.> I'm in Philly working until Friday, would anyone propose this at the GA > tomorrow?>> On Sep 19, 2011, at 11:59 PM, grimwomyn wrote:>

> unfortunately, the % doesnt work as a proper hashtag, what about a slight> edit to #wearethe99>> On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 11:47 PM, Luis Moreno-Caballud> <[email protected]> wrote:>>>> Dear friends,>> It looks like #OccupyWallStreet is in urgent need of a massive and>> targeted outreach operation to stay alive. The key to the success of the>> movement is to be inclusive. Right now the movement is too homogeneous,















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due>> to the "activist" imaginary and language identified with it (example: the>> word "occupy", the images of stereotypical activists used by Adbusters,>> etc).>> If we really want to start a massive movement like the ones in Egypt,>> Iceland, Spain, Greece, etc, we should change those referents. If we don't>> act quickly the movement will vanish, and it would have been just another

>> activist movement. I propose that we start today a fast and massive outreach>> campaign with this idea: #WeAreThe99%.>> This is the plan: we put all our energy and resources in outreaching for>> the #WeAreThe99% Day which will happen next Saturday 23rd, at our spacein>> Zucotti/Liberty Park. We propose tomorrow at the assembly: everyone form>> groups and march right now to different spots in the city (squares,>> neighborhoods, universities, labor unions) with signs, fliers, and a clear>> message:>> "Political parties govern in the name of the 1% that control almost all>> financial wealth. We are the 99%.">> "We have taken a space at the heart of Wall Street to start changing this

>> situation. Join us at Zucotti/Liberty Park on Saturday September 23rd for>> the We Are The 99% Day. Stay with us.">> What do you think? We have a lot of attention in the internet and even>> mainstream media, let's use it now before it's gone! Let's create a really>> inclusive and massive movement, let's go beyond traditional identities,>> let's become a real multitude!>>>>>



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From: [email protected] on behalf of Gary Roland


Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: [september17discuss] congas at solidarity center


If we could bring all the drums and also the fist.

~GARY

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 10:38 AM, J Wedes < [email protected]> wrote:hey everyone,

can any1 drop by the solidarity center today and bring my red congas frombloombergville over the liberty plaza for occupy wall street?

thx,

justin











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Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: [september17discuss] Does everyone know about this "counter protest?"


uberlike :)

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:12 AM, gail zawacki <[email protected]> wrote: Yeah we wouldn't want those handcuffs to be uncomfortable.

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:10 AM, grimwomyn <[email protected]> wrote:Let's hope that the open container arrests go smoothly-- I just rsvpd andencouraged them to bring as much champagne as possible,

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Matthew Presto<[email protected]> wrote:

This is the Facebook event: https://www.facebook.com/event.php?

eid=127034944063832


Yeah the open container law alone will get him scooped up. Didyou read the comments? Hilarious even gawker readers think hesucks.

On Sep 23, 2011 9:55 AM, "gail zawacki" <[email protected]>

wrote:> Presumably they will be arrested for drinking on the street.>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 9:41 AM, J.A. Myerson< [email protected]>wrote:>>> Snobby Illiterati to Protest Wall St. ‘Hippies’ With ChampagneToast>>>>>> http://gawker.com/5843209/snobby-illiteraterati-to-protest-wall-st-hippies-with-champagne-toast

>>>> -->> J.A. Myerson>> http://www.jamyerson.com>> 347.688.0241>>>>





























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Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: [september17discuss] Five demands and banks


Bravo Snafu for this:

corporate funding and the two-party system should be the two main targets of acampaign for real democracy.

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Lisa Fithian <[email protected]> wrote:

Hey all,

Hope all are well –

on the questions of demands. Things suggested in the other email below requirecongressional action. It might be great to ask the GA some questions like – do you knowanyone who has lost their home, or do they come from a city that is losing needed servicesor do they know anyone in debt. These might get you to some other possibledemands…. Things that Wall Street can do immediately if there was political will…

- stop foreclosure keep millions in their homes

- stop bankrupting states and cities renegotiate debt at lower interest rates save publicservices

- drop student debt, forgive all loans

- stop excessive fees, et

Banks touch every aspect of our lives. From student loans to housing morgages, frombanks to credit cards to debt cards, to food stamps,

Just some thoughts

Peace, Lisa

SEE BELOW

1: draft old flier

2: JP Morgan fact sheet

This is a draft of a flier I once worked on but never finished. Wanted to show how thebig banks affect us. With a bit more research you can tell a compelling story why thethings above should happen












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JP MORGAN CHASE BANK AFFECTS:

• Home owners: through mortgages and loans, refusing to negotiate onforeclosures, redlining in communities, leaving communities vacant and blithe, refusingto reduce principle, dealing with homes worth less now then is owed aka

“underwater”

• Renters: if a house is foreclosed and you rent, you are out, you have no rights

• Military P ersonal:. More than 20,000 veterans, reservists and active-duty troops

lost the homes to foreclosure in 2010, the highest number since 2003. JPMorganChase illegally overcharged 4,000 active service members for their mortgagesimproperly foreclosing on a number of them.

• Students: college loans are now from banks not the government, high interestrates, loading kids out with credit cards, monopolizing debt card use, fees for card useand the list goes on….

• Consumers: Credit card offers, new deals, hidden fees and high interest rates,penalties

• Poor People: JP provides the debit cards for 43 million Americans on foodstamps and gets a cut for each use

• Bank Workers: opposing the right to a union

• Small Businesses: Charging high fees for credit card use.

• Utility Users: JP lobbyist are working hard to drive up the cost of home heatingfuel to up their investments in dirty energy. Public Citizen has a campaign



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• Health: Funding the Tobacco Industry, funding, investing in fossil fuel extraction

• Community Development:

• Farmers

• War – JP invests in munitions http:/ / ww w.banktrack.org/show/ bankprofiles/ jpmorgan_chase

JPMORGAN CHASE

Federal taxpayer bailout funds received:[1] $100.7 billion[i]

Profits for the years 1996-2010: $153.5 billion[ii]

Profits since bailout (2009-2010): $29.1 billion[iii]

2010 bank account fees: $4.7 billion[iv]

2010 credit card fee income: $5.9 billion[v]

Chase bank teller wage:[2] $10.77/hour($22,391/year)[vi]

2010 CEO Jamie Dimon total pay: $20.8 million[vii]

2010 CEO Jamie Dimon bonus: $19.2 million[viii]

Projected annual dividend for CEO Jamie Dimon: $6 million[ix]

2010 bonuses and compensation: $28.4 billion[x]

Bonuses and compensation for top 5 execs last 10 years:[3] $804.2 million[xi]

Homes in foreclosure in lending or servicing portfolio: $74.0 billion[xii]

Offshore subsidiaries in tax havens:[4] 53[xiii]

Lobbying expenses since bailout (2009-2010): $15.7 million[xiv]

Political contributions in 2008 & 2010 federal elections:[5] $9.7 million[xv]



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FORECLOSURE CRISIS

• Foreclosure Leader. As of June 2010, JPMorgan Chase had $19.5 billion worth of

foreclosed homes on its books—more than any other bank in the country. Another$54.5 billion of mortgages that the bank services for other lenders was also inforeclosure.[xvi]

• Foreclosure Fraud. JPMorgan Chase employees admitted to signing 18,000foreclosure documents per month without reviewing the information in each file toensure that the bank had a legal right to proceed with foreclosure.[xvii] The bank wasforced to stop foreclosures in 41 states as a result of the robo-signing scandal,[xviii]which also led Attorneys General in all 50 states to launch investigations intoforeclosure fraud.

• Subprime Lending. JPMorgan Chase had a hand in the worst of the subprimelending excesses, providing financing to the nation’s two largest subprime lenders,

Countrywide and Ameriquest, which allowed them to originate subprime loans.JPMorgan Chase also owned a major subprime lender and has acquired two banks thathad large subprime operations. Together, these firms issued over $295.3 billion insubprime loans from 2005-2007.[xix]

• Loan Modifications. Despite large incentives from taxpayers, as of January 2011,JPMorgan Chase had given permanent mortgage modifications to only 42% of itshomeowners who are still eligible for the Obama Administration’s Home AffordableModification Program (HAMP). The bank had rejected 354,822 families from HAMP,almost as many as Bank of America (193,231) and Wells Fargo (172,278)combined.[xx]

• Exploiting Military Members. JPMorgan Chase overcharged 4,500 military

members on their mortgages and improperly foreclosed on 18 of them. Once the issuecame under Congressional scrutiny, the bank announced it would take steps to correctthe problems.[xxi]

• Predatory Lending. From 2006 through 2009, JPMorgan Chase (and mortgagelenders it has since acquired) was more than twice as likely to put African-Americanand Latino borrowers into higher-cost, subprime loans than white borrowers.Furthermore, while mortgage lending to white borrowers only dropped 11% between2006 and 2009, it dropped 51% for African-American borrowers and 63% forLatinos.[xxii]

PUBLIC BUDGET CRISES

• Interest rate swaps. JPMorgan Chase had to pay a $722 million fine to settlecharges that it illegally paid off officials in Jefferson County, Alabama to secure interestrate swap deals that drove the county to the brink of bankruptcy.[xxiii] Across thecountry, the bank is gouging state and local governments for more than $200 million a



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year on swap deals.[xxiv] JPMorgan Chase sold governments these deals as a way tosave money, but instead they have become a goldmine for the bank following thebailout, which is able to rake in millions at taxpayer expense.

• Letters of credit. JPMorgan Chase is squeezing state and local governments bymaking it tougher for them to renew letters of credit, a form of bond insurance thatmany cities and states need to keep bond interest rates from spiking up.[xxv]

• Predatory loans to government. JPMorgan Chase is making a profit by lendingtaxpayers their own money. Even though the bank has access to ultra-cheap loansfrom the Federal Reserve, speculated to be as low as 0.5%, JPMorgan Chase ismanipulating government budget processes and charging local and state governmentsmuch higher interest rates. For instance, when Philadelphia was in a budget pinch infall 2009, instead of passing the 0.5% interest rate onto taxpayers, the bank offeredthe city a 3% bridge loan that would reset to 8% if it wasn’t paid off in a fewmonths.[xxvi]

• Auction-rate securities. After promoting auction-rate securities to local and stategovernment borrowers as a low-risk, low-cost source of financing, JPMorgan Chase andother banks pulled their support for the market in early 2008, causing auctions to fail

and leading to interest rates as high as 20% for government borrowers. Then thebanks charged local and state governments at least $1 billion in fees to convert theirauction-rate bonds to safer forms of debt, “enriching JPMorgan Chase & Co., GoldmanSachs Group Inc. and the rest of Wall Street that let the market fall apart,” accordingto Bloomberg.[xxvii]

JOBS CRISIS

• Small business lending. Even though the bailout was intended to get banks tostart lending again to stimulate the economy and spur job creation, JPMorgan Chase’sbailout did not translate into new credit for small businesses. In fact, the bank made18,699 loans through the Small Business Administration’s flagship 7(a) program in thetwo years before the bailout, and made only 4,636 loans into the two years since—a75% decline. Meanwhile, the bank had $1.48 billion in outstanding insider loans tobank directors and their companies as of March 2009, more than any other bank.[xxviii]

• Unemployment debit cards. Several states use JPMorgan Chase debit cards topay out unemployment and/or TANF benefits. The bank takes advantage of Americans

who have fallen on hard times by skimming fees off of their accounts. For example, inMichigan benefit recipients have to pay $4 if they go to a bank teller to withdrawmoney from their accounts more than once per pay period or $1 if they check theirbalance more than once per period.[xxix]



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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of DougSingsenSent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 7:23 PMTo: [email protected]: Re: [september17discuss] Five demands from the NYCGA: how to link the struggle fordemocracy to the struggle for social and economic justice

This is exactly what we need. Who wants to propose this in the GA? Unfortunately I'llbe out of town for a week starting tomorrow so I can't do it myself.

Doug S

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Snafu <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi all,

I apologize for being off-list and off-the-streets for a fewdays, but I was lucky enough to become a father on September

17!

I personally believe that the obstination of some members ofthe NYCGA on not having demands has proved disastrous andresulted in a PR debacle. Invariably, almost all mainstreammedia accounts of the protests note that the demonstrators haveconfused ideas and are probably motivated by merely ideologicalmotives.

Further, this refusal of having demands has nothing to do withthe current movements in the Middle East, Spain and Greece allof which have clear and loud demands. In the case of Arabcountries and Middle Eastern autocracies the demand cannot bebut one (remove the dictator). In Greece and Spain the

situation is more complex but the movements there have beenable to develop specific analyses and requests. In particularthe Joint Economics Working Group of Syntagma Square and Puertadel Sol have drafted a document (http://bit.ly/npCWkg) thatlists a specific set of demands, such as the request ofnationalizing the banks, withdrawing the EU/IMF Memorandumimposed on Greece, make the accounting records transparent, andso forth.

As I have previously suggested, the three simple demands thatthe NYCGA should have raised in the call to Occupy Wall Street







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should have been:

1) Reintroduction of the Glass-Steagall Act, alawregulatingthebank

systemthatseparatedinvestmentbanksfromcommercialbanks.Thislaw,originallyapproved

in1933andsignedintolawbyFDRhasbeenrepealedin1999.AsWikipediasimplystatesit,

"MosteconomistsbelievethisrepealdirectlycontributedtotheseverityoftheFinancialcrisisof

2007–2011byallowingWallStreetinvestmentbankingfirmstogamblewiththeirdepositors'

moneythatwasheldincommercialbanksownedorcreatedbytheinvestmentfirms."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass–Steagall_Act

2) Immediate introduction of a Tobin Tax or Robin Hood Tax on allfinancial transactions both at a national and international level.On a national level, it would be sufficient for Congress to passit. On an international level, the IMF could subordinate loans tocountries in debt to the introduction of a Tobin Tax instead ofrequiring massive privatizations as it ordinarily does through thenotorious structural adjustment programs. In Europe, Angela Merkeland Nicholas Sarkozy have officialized their support to theintroduction of such tax in the EU about three weeks ago. Last Juneover 1,000 economist submitted a letter by 1,000 economists to the

G20 last April that explains why the idea of a global Robin HoodTax has “come of age.”(http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/apr/13/robin-hood-tax-economists-letter) Robinhoodtax.org, a web site run by a BritishNGO that explains in very simple terms how it works and how muchrevenue it could generate. The NGO also has a Facebook page.

3) Raise taxes on qualified dividends and long-term capital gainsby pairing the long-term capital gains tax rate (which applies tofinancial assets held for more than a year) to the ordinary incometax rates. At the moment, thanks to the Tax Reconciliation Actsigned by Bush into law in 2006 and extended by the Obamaadministration to 2012 and beyond, capital gains cannot be taxedmore than 20% whereas income tax is taxed up to 35%. This means

that if your wage falls for example in the $35,000-83,000 bracketyour income tax is 25% whereas if you make 1, 10, or 100 milliondollars on the stock market your pay 20% only. Even Warren Buffettsays that this system is openly unjust and that the currenttaxation system is profoundly unbalanced and skewed towardsfinancial profit. (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/15/opinion/stop-coddling-the-super-rich.html)

These three proposals are far from revolutionary yet they couldbegin raising specific questions and help bring a variety ofsubjects into the conversation. The notion that a movement isdefined by its demands is ridiculous. A social movement is muchmore than a set of demands yet demands help those who are noton your side understand who you are and where you come from.

Two other critical points that should be discussed in the GAare the public funding of political campaigns and the two-partysystem. A paramount political objective should be to getcorporations to stop funding political candidates. You cannothave real democracy with the current system of fundraising. Atruly democratic system would give each citizen a tax bonus ofthe SAME AMOUNT and enable each one of us to decide how toallocate such money. A truly democratic society should also notrely on forms of political representation based on amajoritarian (first-past-the-post) electoral system. If we arethe 99% of the country, then we ought to be able to convince



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the rest of the nation that the 99% counts in fact nothing. Andcorporate funding and the two-party system should be the twomain targets of a campaign for real democracy.

To sum up, the question of the redistribution of wealth anddemocratic control over the financial system cannot bedisconnected from the question of political representation.Organizing a movement that fights "against representativepolitics" does not mean in my opinion to fight against *any*form of representation, but certainly against the currentsystem of representation. We are over 6 billions on thisplanet. Thinking that each individual should have the right todecide on every issue in every part of the world at all timesmay sound fascinating but it is simply unrealistic andunrealizable. Whether we like it or not, we constantly delegateto others the understanding of issues and execution of tasks wesimply do not have the time to understand and care about. (Theworldwide professionalization of national armies and theadvanced specialization of knowledge in scientific and academicresearch are just two notable cases in point).

Thus the question is not how to abolish authority andrepresentation per se but how to produce forms ofrepresentation that are truly representative, renewable andnon-ossified. The NYCGA could be such a body, once we livebehind the rather childish notion that demands define us and bydefining us trap us in some blind alley from which we'll beunable to move forward.

Cheers,Snafu

[1] Includes bailouts that the bank has paid back.

[2] 25th percentile is $9.98 per hour and 75 th percentile is $11.55 per hour. $10.77 per hour is average of the two.

[3] 2000-2009

[4] Includes 50 JPMorgan Chase subsidiaries and 3 Washington Mutual subsidiaries.

[5] Includes contributions made by the bank's political action committee and its employees in the 2008 and 2010 federalelection cycles. Includes JPMorgan Chase and Bear Stearns.

[i] http://nomiprins.squarespace.com/storage/bailouttallyoct2010.pdf

[ii] Capital IQ.

[iii] Capital IQ.

[iv]

http://www.ffiec.gov/nicpubweb/NICDataCache/FRY9C/FRY9C_1039502_20101231.PDF, Item 5(b), Service Charges on Deposits.



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[v] Capital IQ.

[vi] http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Bank_Teller/Hourly_Rate/by_Employer

[vii] http://online.wsj.com/article/SB20001424052748704101604576249092228969996.html[viii] http://online.wsj.com/article/SB20001424052748704101604576249092228969996.html

[ix] http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/17/business/17dividend.html

[x] Capital IQ.

[xi] Capital IQ.

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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703440004575548403873382036.html?KEYWORDS=%22home+loans+in+foreclosure%22

[xiii] GAO-09-157, INTERNATIONAL TAXATION: Large U.S. Corporations and Federal Contractors with Subsidiaries in Jurisdictions Listed as Tax Havens or Financial Privacy Jurisdictions , Government Accountability Office, Dec 2008.

[xiv] OpenSecrets.org

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[xviii] http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/18/business/18foreclosure.html

[xix] http://www.publicintegrity.org/investigations/economic_meltdown/the_subprime_25/

[xx] http://www.treasury.gov/initiatives/financial-stability/results/MHA-Reports/Documents/Jan_2011_MHA_Report_FINAL.PDF

[xxi] http://www.americanbanker.com//bulletins/-1033032-1.html

[xxii] Based on data from the Home Mortgage Disclosure Act Database.

[xxiii] http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/04/AR2009110404582.html

[xxiv] Based on SEIU analysis of Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports of more than75 public entities across the country.

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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704062604576106282512683312.html?mod=ITP_moneyandinvesting_0

[xxvi] http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/inq-phillydeals/JPMorgan_offers_Philly_emergency_cash_- _at_a_price.html

[xxvii] http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=axksyBiC6q78



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Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: [september17discuss] Five demands from the NYCGA: how to link the struggle for democracyto the struggle for social and economic justice


Seconded

On Sep 23, 2011 9:58 AM, "Willie Osterweil" <[email protected]> wrote:> I think if we use demands at all we need to be focused on simple, clear> demands that will enlarge our ranks.>> The house/senate wont pass anything even remotely looking like a change in> wealth distribution, the Obama administration bends over backwards to> appease the bi-partisan banks, the Supreme Court declares that proof of > innocence is insufficient cause for a stay of execution, and the media will> always distort and misrepresent, either through malice or incompetence.>

> Thus, any sort of wonky policy demand that speaks only to the already> politically active is unproductive and serves to marginalize and entrench> the protest into a pre-exiting middle-class protest community. The> government will give us nothing, we need to build the numbers to take...>> The only positive function of demands is solidarity and recruitment: the> simpler, broader and more universal, the better.>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Winter Siroco <[email protected]>wrote:>>> ...true, true...so, what would be your positive contribution or>> rearangement of priorities?

>> be constructive.>> Cesar>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Willie Osterweil<[email protected]>wrote:>>>>> And nothing gets the blood of the people stirring like a call to reinstate>>> Glass-Steagall. Yup, I can see it now, the media suddenly exploding with>>> coverage, the ramparts filling with the oppressed and underrepresented:>>> "They've called for the reinstatement of Glass-Steagall! Quickly, comrades,>>> to arms! To arms! For Glass Steagall!"

>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 8:58 AM, diane sare <[email protected]> wrote:>>>>>>> Glass-Steagall would bust up the "too big to fail" banks, let the>>>> speculators rot, as they should, and protect the small savings and loan>>>> banks, which means people's savings, mortgages, there would be hope for>>>> pension funds, etc. In other words, Glass-Steagall would bankrupt Wall>>>> Street -- it's not the whole recovery, but it IS the first step to>>>> protecting the PEOPLE, and making it possible to think long-term about

















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>>>> radical things we used to do, like water management, rail building etc.>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Snafu <[email protected]> wrote:>>>>>>>>> Hi all,>>>>>>>>>> I apologize for being off-list and off-the-streets for a few days, but I

>>>>> was lucky enough to become a father on September 17!>>>>>>>>>> I personally believe that the obstination of some members of the NYCGA >>>>> on not having demands has proved disastrous and resulted in a PR debacle.>>>>> Invariably, almost all mainstream media accounts of the protests note that>>>>> the demonstrators have confused ideas and are probably motivated bymerely>>>>> ideological motives.>>>>>>>>>> Further, this refusal of having demands has nothing to do with the>>>>> current movements in the Middle East, Spain and Greece all of which have>>>>> clear and loud demands. In the case of Arab countries and Middle Eastern

>>>>> autocracies the demand cannot be but one (remove the dictator). In Greece>>>>> and Spain the situation is more complex but the movements there havebeen>>>>> able to develop specific analyses and requests. In particular the Joint>>>>> Economics Working Group of Syntagma Square and Puerta del Sol havedrafted a>>>>> document (http://bit.ly/npCWkg) that lists a specific set of demands,>>>>> such as the request of nationalizing the banks, withdrawing the EU/IMF>>>>> Memorandum imposed on Greece, make the accounting recordstransparent, and>>>>> so forth.>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> As I have previously suggested, the three simple demands that the NYCGA >>>>> should have raised in the call to Occupy Wall Street should have been:>>>>>>>>>> 1) Reintroduction of the Glass-Steagall Act, a law regulating the bank >>>>> system that separated investment banks from commercial banks. This law,>>>>> originally approved in 1933 and signed into law by FDR has been repealedin>>>>> 1999. As Wikipedia simply states it, "Most economists believe this repeal>>>>> directly contributed to the severity of the Financial crisis of 2007–2011 by>>>>> allowing Wall Street investment banking firms to gamble with their>>>>> depositors' money that was held in commercial banks owned or created by

the>>>>> investment firms." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass–Steagall_Act>>>>>>>>>> 2) *Immediate introduction of a Tobin Tax or Robin Hood Tax* on all>>>>> financial transactions both at a national and international level. On a>>>>> national level, it would be sufficient for Congress to pass it. On an>>>>> international level, the IMF could subordinate loans to countries in debt to>>>>> the introduction of a Tobin Tax instead of requiring massive privatizations>>>>> as it ordinarily does through the notorious structural adjustment programs.>>>>> In Europe, Angela Merkel and Nicholas Sarkozy have officialized their









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>>>>> support to the introduction of such tax in the EU about three weeks ago.>>>>> Last June over 1,000 economist submitted a letter by 1,000 economists tothe>>>>> G20 last April that explains why the idea of a global Robin Hood Tax has>>>>> “come of age.” (>>>>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/apr/13/robin-hood-tax-economists-letter)

>>>>> Robinhoodtax.org, a web site run by a British NGO that explains in very>>>>> simple terms how it works and how much revenue it could generate. TheNGO>>>>> also has a Facebook page.****>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) *Raise taxes on qualified dividends and long-term capital gains *by>>>>> pairing the long-term capital gains tax rate (which applies to financial>>>>> assets held for more than a year) to the ordinary income tax rates. At the>>>>> moment, thanks to the Tax Reconciliation Act signed by Bush into law in2006>>>>> and extended by the Obama administration to 2012 and beyond, capital

gains>>>>> cannot be taxed more than 20% whereas income tax is taxed up to 35%.This>>>>> means that if your wage falls for example in the $35,000-83,000 bracket>>>>> your income tax is 25% whereas if you make 1, 10, or 100 million dollars>>>>> on the stock market your pay 20% only. Even Warren Buffett says that this>>>>> system is openly unjust and that the current taxation system is profoundly>>>>> unbalanced and skewed towards financial profit. (>>>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/15/opinion/stop-coddling-the-super-rich.html>>>>> )>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> These three proposals are far from revolutionary yet they could begin>>>>> raising specific questions and help bring a variety of subjects into the>>>>> conversation. The notion that a movement is defined by its demands is>>>>> ridiculous. ****A social movement is much more than a set of demands>>>>> yet demands help those who are not on your side understand who you areand>>>>> where you come from.>>>>>>>>>> Two other critical points that should be discussed in the GA are the>>>>> public funding of political campaigns and the two-party system. A paramount

>>>>> political objective should be to get corporations to stop funding political>>>>> candidates. You cannot have real democracy with the current system of >>>>> fundraising. A truly democratic system would give each citizen a tax bonus>>>>> of the SAME AMOUNT and enable each one of us to decide how to allocatesuch>>>>> money. A truly democratic society should also not rely on forms of political>>>>> representation based on a majoritarian (first-past-the-post) electoral>>>>> system. If we are the 99% of the country, then we ought to be able to>>>>> convince the rest of the nation that the 99% counts in fact nothing. And>>>>> corporate funding and the two-party system should be the two main











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targets of >>>>> a campaign for real democracy.>>>>>>>>>> To sum up, the question of the redistribution of wealth and democratic>>>>> control over the financial system cannot be disconnected from the question>>>>> of political representation. Organizing a movement that fights "against>>>>> representative politics" does not mean in my opinion to fight against *any*

>>>>> form of representation, but certainly against the current system of >>>>> representation. We are over 6 billions on this planet. Thinking that each>>>>> individual should have the right to decide on every issue in every part of >>>>> the world at all times may sound fascinating but it is simply unrealistic>>>>> and unrealizable. Whether we like it or not, we constantly delegate to>>>>> others the understanding of issues and execution of tasks we simply do not>>>>> have the time to understand and care about. (The worldwide>>>>> professionalization of national armies and the advanced specialization of >>>>> knowledge in scientific and academic research are just two notable cases in>>>>> point).>>>>>>>>>> Thus the question is not how to abolish authority and representation per

>>>>> se but how to produce forms of representation that are trulyrepresentative,>>>>> renewable and non-ossified. The NYCGA could be such a body, once welive>>>>> behind the rather childish notion that demands define us and by definingus>>>>> trap us in some blind alley from which we'll be unable to move forward.>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,>>>>> Snafu>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -->>>> Diane Sare>>>> cell: 201-220-7731>>>>>>>>>>>>



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Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: [september17discuss] Five demands from the NYCGA: how to link the struggle for democracyto the struggle for social and economic justice


This is exactly what we need. Who wants to propose this in the GA? Unfortunately

I'll be out of town for a week starting tomorrow so I can't do it myself.

Doug S

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Snafu <[email protected]> wrote:Hi all,

I apologize for being off-list and off-the-streets for a few days, but Iwas lucky enough to become a father on September 17!

I personally believe that the obstination of some members of the NYCGA onnot having demands has proved disastrous and resulted in a PR debacle.Invariably, almost all mainstream media accounts of the protests note thatthe demonstrators have confused ideas and are probably motivated by merely

ideological motives.

Further, this refusal of having demands has nothing to do with the currentmovements in the Middle East, Spain and Greece all of which have clear andloud demands. In the case of Arab countries and Middle Eastern autocraciesthe demand cannot be but one (remove the dictator). In Greece and Spainthe situation is more complex but the movements there have been able todevelop specific analyses and requests. In particular the Joint EconomicsWorking Group of Syntagma Square and Puerta del Sol have drafted a document(http://bit.ly/npCWkg) that lists a specific set of demands, such as therequest of nationalizing the banks, withdrawing the EU/IMF Memorandumimposed on Greece, make the accounting records transparent, and so forth.

As I have previously suggested, the three simple demands that the NYCGAshould have raised in the call to Occupy Wall Street should have been:

1) Reintroduction of the Glass-Steagall Act, alawregulatingthebanksystem

thatseparatedinvestmentbanksfromcommercialbanks.Thislaw,originallyapprovedin

1933andsignedintolawbyFDRhasbeenrepealedin1999.AsWikipediasimplystatesit,

"MosteconomistsbelievethisrepealdirectlycontributedtotheseverityoftheFinancial

crisisof2007–2011byallowingWallStreetinvestmentbankingfirmstogamblewiththeir

depositors'moneythatwasheldincommercialbanksownedorcreatedbytheinvestment

firms."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass–Steagall_Act

2) Immediate introduction of a Tobin Tax or Robin Hood Tax on allfinancial transactions both at a national and internationallevel. On a national level, it would be sufficient for Congressto pass it. On an international level, the IMF could subordinateloans to countries in debt to the introduction of a Tobin Taxinstead of requiring massive privatizations as it ordinarily doesthrough the notorious structural adjustment programs. In Europe,Angela Merkel and Nicholas Sarkozy have officialized theirsupport to the introduction of such tax in the EU about threeweeks ago. Last June over 1,000 economist submitted a letter by1,000 economists to the G20 last April that explains why theidea of a global Robin Hood Tax has “come of age.”(http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/apr/13/robin-hood-tax-economists-letter) Robinhoodtax.org, a web site run by a BritishNGO that explains in very simple terms how it works and how much



















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revenue it could generate. The NGO also has a Facebook page.

3) Raise taxes on qualified dividends and long-term capitalgains by pairing the long-term capital gains tax rate (whichapplies to financial assets held for more than a year) to theordinary income tax rates. At the moment, thanks to the TaxReconciliation Act signed by Bush into law in 2006 and extendedby the Obama administration to 2012 and beyond, capital gains

cannot be taxed more than 20% whereas income tax is taxed up to35%. This means that if your wage falls for example in the$35,000-83,000 bracket your income tax is 25% whereas if youmake 1, 10, or 100 million dollars on the stock market your pay20% only. Even Warren Buffett says that this system is openlyunjust and that the current taxation system is profoundlyunbalanced and skewed towards financial profit.(http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/15/opinion/stop-coddling-the-super-rich.html)

These three proposals are far from revolutionary yet they couldbegin raising specific questions and help bring a variety ofsubjects into the conversation. The notion that a movement is

defined by its demands is ridiculous. A social movement is much morethan a set of demands yet demands help those who are not on your sideunderstand who you are and where you come from.

Two other critical points that should be discussed in the GA are thepublic funding of political campaigns and the two-party system. A paramountpolitical objective should be to get corporations to stop funding politicalcandidates. You cannot have real democracy with the current system offundraising. A truly democratic system would give each citizen a tax bonusof the SAME AMOUNT and enable each one of us to decide how to allocatesuch money. A truly democratic society should also not rely on forms ofpolitical representation based on a majoritarian (first-past-the-post)electoral system. If we are the 99% of the country, then we ought to beable to convince the rest of the nation that the 99% counts in factnothing. And corporate funding and the two-party system should be the twomain targets of a campaign for real democracy.

To sum up, the question of the redistribution of wealth and democraticcontrol over the financial system cannot be disconnected from the questionof political representation. Organizing a movement that fights "againstrepresentative politics" does not mean in my opinion to fight against*any* form of representation, but certainly against the current system ofrepresentation. We are over 6 billions on this planet. Thinking that eachindividual should have the right to decide on every issue in every part ofthe world at all times may sound fascinating but it is simply unrealisticand unrealizable. Whether we like it or not, we constantly delegate toothers the understanding of issues and execution of tasks we simply do nothave the time to understand and care about. (The worldwideprofessionalization of national armies and the advanced specialization ofknowledge in scientific and academic research are just two notable casesin point).

Thus the question is not how to abolish authority and representation perse but how to produce forms of representation that are truly

representative, renewable and non-ossified. The NYCGA could be such abody, once we live behind the rather childish notion that demands define usand by defining us trap us in some blind alley from which we'll be unableto move forward.

Cheers,Snafu







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Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: [september17discuss] Fwd: Move the Planet in New York City this Saturday

Date: Saturday, September 24, 2011 9:22:26 AM

Are we going? These movements should converge. The same system that isplundering wealth for the 1% doesn't care about the future, and is bankrupting a

habitable climate for generations to come.

On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Matthew Bralow <[email protected]> wrote:MANY groups converging at UN today at 2pm to speak up against climate change!

---------- Forwarded message ----------From: Pow er Shift Team <[email protected]>Date: Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 2:32 PMSubject: Move the Planet in New York City this SaturdayTo: [email protected]

Energy Action Coalition

Dear friends,

On Saturday , September 24 th , someth ing b ig i s happening in Manhat tan .

This event is part of the worldwide Moving Planet day of climate action, and is just one of

thousands happening around the world. Some of the actions this year are shaping up to be reallyhuge and you are fortunate to live near to one of the really big planned actions. You won’t want to

miss it.

WHERE: Dag Hammarskjöld Plaza, on 47th Street between 1st and 2nd Avenues

WHEN: 2pm

WHAT: In this great opportunity to demonstrate the strength of our movement to both US and

world leaders we will rally at United Nations’ Dag Hammarskjold Plaza in Manhattan. We’ll be

joined by Vice President Hassan of the Maldives, top climate scientist Dr. James Hansen, a

delegation of indigenous leaders from around the world, and local climate leaders like ColinBeavan (“No Impact Man”).

Get In On The Action

I hope you can make it on Saturday! Together, we’ll help move the planet away from fossil fuels.

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Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: [september17discuss] Fwd: Move the Planet in Manhattan this Saturday


There is a tragic divide between movements that should consolidate.

1. economic injustice2. peak oil and other resources (clean fresh water, precious minerals)3. environmental pollution (including CO2 the major greenhouse gas causing climatechange, and other emissions creating toxic ozone)

I call it the trifucta.

YES! The occupywallstreet people should go and connect with the moving planetpeople.

The root cause of all these converging catastrophes is the same:

corporate profits trumping the health and ultimately survival of human and otherspecies.

Let's create a united front. You young people are the ones who will suffer if wedon't.

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 6:57 PM, < [email protected]> wrote:Are you guys aware of this action? Is it worth involving the GA in some way?

From: "Moving Planet team"

Date: Sep 20, 2011 12:01:53 PM

Subject: Move the Planet in Manhattan this Saturday

To: "John McGloin" < [email protected]>

Dear friends,

On Saturday, September 24th, something big is happening in Manhattan.

This event is part of the worldwide Moving Planet day of climate action, and is just oneof thousands happening around the world. Some of the actions this year are shaping up

to be really huge and you are fortunate to live near to one of the really big planned

actions. You won’t want to miss it.


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WHAT: In this great opportunity to demonstrate the strength of our movement to both

US and world leaders we will rally at United Nations' Dag Hammarskjold Plaza in

Manhattan. We'll be joined by Vice President Hassan of the Maldives, top climate

scientist Dr. James Hansen, a delegation of indigenous leaders from around the world,

and local climate leaders like Colin Beavan ("No Impact Man").

moving-planet.org/events/us/manhattan/348

I hope you can make it on Saturday! Together, we’ll help move the planet away from

fossil fuels.

See you out there!

The Moving Planet NYC Team

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From: [email protected] on behalf of Drew Hornbein


Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: [september17discuss] How do I...


I was told yesterday that someone has a Verizon hot spot. It would cost $40/monthto use.

I think it would be wise to get the treasury committee involved in this.

-Drew

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 2:52 PM, grimwomyn <[email protected]> wrote:as for the square-- no idea-- but try this out to find wifi:http://www.openwifinyc.com/classic/index.php

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 2:48 PM, J.A. Myerson < [email protected]>wrote:

...get wireless access in Liberty Sq.? Am trying to do solidarity outreach.

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From: [email protected] on behalf of Marisa Holmes


Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: [september17discuss] How do I...


We're working on it

Marisa

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From: [email protected] on behalf of Gabriel Johnson


Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: [september17discuss] Mass Arrests near Union Square

Date: Saturday, September 24, 2011 3:47:20 PM

http://gothamist.com/2011/09/24/video_five_more_arrested_on_8th_day.php

what. the. heck. she is literally the last person i would haveexpected them to arrest.

--glj

On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Amye R <[email protected]> wrote:> Just got off the phone with someone at Union Square. Mass arrests at union> square. People were kettled into the street and then arrested. Police> brutality and injuries were involved. As of now police are still bringing in> reinforcements.











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Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: [september17discuss] On Using Corporate Money and the Inherent Risks Involved, and a BitMore on What We Are Doing


I used to play an excellent video game called Deus Ex. It was about how the technology of suppression could

be used against the powers that be. It is a dangerous game though. If we go that way we cannot lose sight of who we are, where we are going, and that we are subverting the technology not enslaving ourselves to it. (If you

ever got to the end of the game, you know what I mean lol.)

On 09/23/11, Alexandre Machado De Sant'Anna Carvalho<[email protected]> wrote:

Hey guys;

This is such an important issue. I tend to agree with Micah and Harrison at the same time (can you please

become friends again? lol). On Micah's point, there is a considerable risk of co-opt when corporate money starts

to sustain our movement - there is a subtle tendency to lose autonomy and a desire to please patrons, making

the radicalized aspect of what we are doing lose taste and become, as all things that corporate ideology touches,

insipid and dehumanized. On the other hand, i also agree with Harrison, that it is beautiful to go Robin Hood, andsteal from the rich and use their game to fund its own subversion. Specially in a world where corporations feed

us, clothe us, oversee our communications, build the chairs we are sitting, etc...

I have been approached by many people that said, "You are a hypocrite. Why then are you using Facebook,

Twitter to spread the word? why your pizza is Papa John's? Why do you make use of an iPad or iPhone then?",

which is a good point but ultimately a false misconception. I believe none of us is lunatic enough to deny the good

services and products that made us stand where we are. From vaccines to laser registers, iPhones and iPads,

even the thyroid medication i am forced to take and on which my life depends - dude, i don't think we deny the

benefits of technological advance. We appreciate them. Thanks. But this does not mean that we are unaware of

how the world works.

Cannot speak for everyone else, but i think people on this movement envision different ways to arrive at certain

products; i.e., how to organize labor, how to make products, distribute them, research them, and specially FUNDthem... we believe that the end is not the prob lem, but the MEANS. The process by which we arrive at

iPads or iPhone's is fucked up, not the freaking telephones per se. Maybe an exception can be made to death

machines such as A-bombs and the like...

Don't feel guilty of making the revolution with the weapons at your reach. All of what we are doing is a direct

challenge to the PROCESSES of mainstream society. That's why many voices on the ground keep repeating that

the GA and the occupation is much more about process than a single demand or goal. Which does not

exclude demands or goals of course! : -)

Here:

(1) We are creating bottom-up par t ic i pa t o ry democracy as a d i rec t cha l l enge t o t he f a i l ed

representa t i ve democracy in Amer ica and in the w or ld , and are inviting people to rekindle their

political agency and make it a way of life. We created an open society in an otherwise dehumanized zone

where business as usual is the law.

(2) We are building a space where i nd iv idua l and co l lec t i ve autonomy is exerc ised , and

transforming our territoriality while doing it: Liberty Square became a place for social experimentation and the

vision of what our society could be. Therefore, it is paramount that we start experimenting with new f ood

a l ternat ives, renewable e lect r i c i t y generat ion, aesthet ic approaches, sexua l

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(3) We are leveraging people power t o c l og t he mach ine , everyday; by swarming the Financial District

with our marches and continuing with our non-violent, creative civil disobedient acts, we are throwing a pi l low

o n t h e c l o c k w o r k , jamming it. This is the way we will pressure for our demands and objectives once we zero-

in on them. And they do not need to be one, but can be many; and they can be addressed to local administration

(municipality), state, or federal level. We even got our lovely UN bearby to pressure for global actions.

(4) I t must be decent ra l i zed . One overarching demand for the whole global revolution is dangerous. Let the

many occupations that are popping up in America and elsewhere fight for improvements on their communities

and let's coordinate with those different autonomous zones for the things that we all care about on a global scale.

All of this to say that we are in the right track, but should remain vigilant and self-critical to see if we are selling

out our movement, and the extent that we may go before we can say that the line has being crossed.

All the best,

Alê

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Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: [september17discuss] Printing flyers


Why not use the $6000 in food money for flyers? I believe Justin Wedes has accessto the account.

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Jon Good <[email protected]> wrote:I was only able to crank out 100, which I left on the table by the front of the GA.I'll try and print more once my boss has gone home. Nobody else in my office issympathetic to the occupation so I've got to be sneaky.

Rock on,

Jon

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Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: [september17discuss] proposal: No Corporate Donations / No Advertising


Mission creep is very real and has corrupted many well-intentioned organizations.

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Jon Good <[email protected]> wrote:On the one hand, it's fun to take money from corporations and use it againstthem. On the other hand, there starts to be a thing called "mission creep," inwhich our operational funding was dependent on keeping cordial relationships withfolks who are actively doing evil and who we're actively working todestroy/radically change.

A quandry indeed. This will be a long GA discussion.

Solidarity,

Jon

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Gabriel Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:So I suppose this means I should stop pursuing the Chase sponsorship?

In all seriousness, I'd mildly oppose this in its current form; Idon't think it would be the worst idea to have the youtube ads on ourvideos up on that website; help make the occupation a bit moreself-sufficient. We shouldn't have paid ads on occupywallst.org or

such similar websites either, even forBob's-Super-Independent-Organic-Vegan-Non-Imperialist Foot Powder;that's just not the greatest organizational website design, generally.

--glj

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Micah White <[email protected]>wrote:> I'd like to propose the following, and would appreciate it if someone could> take this to the GA meeting.>> Proposal: "We believe that corporate money should not be allowed to

> influence democracy. Therefore, the General Assembly will not accept> donations, financial or otherwise, from corporations. Furthermore, we will> not allow corporate advertising to be placed on websites affiliated with our> occupation. We will resist efforts by corporations to co-opt our movement> towards real democracy in America.">








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Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: [september17discuss] proposal: Open Letter to America


Agreed; also with the student loan debt thing, too.

--glj

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 4:30 PM, grimwomyn <[email protected]> wrote:> Ok but understand if we are trying to bring in the broadest range of people> possible, saying forgive all foreclosures is going to make us sound a little> crazy. Forgiving the mortgage debt of obvious vulnerable demographics is> will be understood, appreciated, and supported by most people. We are still> talking abt the business of lending $ and that business model is not a bad> one, it has just been abused, and until we figure out a better way to remedy> that the emergency halt of foreclosure on the vulnerable is something most> will support.>> On Sep 22, 2011 4:02 PM, "Lisa Fithian" <[email protected]> wrote:

>> I agree that stop all foreclosures is stronger. Why just elderly or sick >> everyone needs their homes.>>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2011, at 1:14 PM, diane sare <[email protected]> wrote:>>>>> I think this is good, and will allow more people to put aside their>>> excuses and join in. I think the moratorium on foreclosures should be>>> extended to "all owner occupied homes" -- this must be done for the sake of >>> social stability until we can get millions of people back to work, and>>> reverse the collapse.>>>

>>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Micah White <[email protected]>>>> wrote:>>> Hi everyone,>>>>>> I have a proposal: maybe it would help if we drafted an open letter to>>> the American People.>>>>>> I wrote a rough draft. What do you think? If this is something that you'd>>> like to see the GA agree on, please say so.>>>>>> Micah>>>>>>>>>

>>> A MESSAGE TO AMERICA FROM THE PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY IN ZUCOTTI PARK >>>>>> Dear fellow Americans,>>>>>> We are assembled in Zucotti Park - which we've renamed Liberty Plaza - in>>> the financial district of New York, because we believe that the American>>> economy is heading in the wrong direction and we have a few ideas for what>>> to do about it.>>>>>> There is a feeling shared by a growing number of people on the streets of >>> the world that the global economy has become a kind of Ponzi scheme, a









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>>> global casino, run by and for the benefit of the 1%.>>>>>> We believe that it is possible to inject justice into the global economy.>>> We have come up with the following list of things that can be done right now>>> to rejuvenate democracy and economic justice in our country:>>>>>> • Halt foreclosures for the unemployed, sick and elderly>>>

>>> • Increase funding to public services by taxing the richest 1%>>>>>> • Forgive all student loan debt>>>>>> • Reinstate the Glass-Steagall Act in order to control speculation>>>>>> • Work with the other G20 nations to implement a 1% "Robin Hood" tax on>>> all financial transactions and currency trades>>>>>> • Ban high-frequency 'flash' trading and bring sanity to the markets>>>>>> • Break up the "too big to fail" banks that threaten our future>>>>>> • Arrest the financial fraudsters responsible for the 2008 meltdown and

>>> bring them to justice>>>>>> • Ordain a Presidential Commission tasked with ending the influence>>> corporate money has on our elected representatives in Washington>>>>>> If you agree with any of these demands, then join us!>>>>>> We will stay here in our encampment in Liberty Plaza until President>>> Obama responds to each of these demands.>>>>>> This is just the beginning, there is more to come as we work together to>>> reshape America.>>>

>>> --- The People's Assembly of New York City>>>>>>>>>>>> -->>> Diane Sare>>> cell: 201-220-7731>



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From: [email protected] on behalf of Luis Moreno-Caballud


Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: [september17discuss] proposal: Open Letter to America


I like it a lot too, and hope the GA can come out with something similar.

On Sep 22, 2011, at 12:37 PM, Marisa Holmes wrote:

> Micah,> This is a wonderful draft.> However, the the general assembly is going thru this very process> of drafting a statement.> It should be ready this afternoon.>> Marisa>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Micah White <[email protected]> wrote:>> Hi everyone,>>

>> I have a proposal: maybe it would help if we drafted an open letter to the>> American People.>>>> I wrote a rough draft. What do you think? If this is something that you'd>> like to see the GA agree on, please say so.>>>> Micah>>>>>>>> A MESSAGE TO AMERICA FROM THE PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY IN ZUCOTTI PARK >>>> Dear fellow Americans,

>>>> We are assembled in Zucotti Park - which we've renamed Liberty Plaza - in>> the financial district of New York, because we believe that the American>> economy is heading in the wrong direction and we have a few ideas for what>> to do about it.>>>> There is a feeling shared by a growing number of people on the streets of >> the world that the global economy has become a kind of Ponzi scheme, a>> global casino, run by and for the benefit of the 1%.>>>> We believe that it is possible to inject justice into the global economy. We>> have come up with the following list of things that can be done right now to>> rejuvenate democracy and economic justice in our country:>>

>> • Halt foreclosures for the unemployed, sick and elderly>>>> • Increase funding to public services by taxing the richest 1%>>>> • Forgive all student loan debt>>>> • Reinstate the Glass-Steagall Act in order to control speculation>>>> • Work with the other G20 nations to implement a 1% "Robin Hood" tax on all>> financial transactions and currency trades>>









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>> • Ban high-frequency 'flash' trading and bring sanity to the markets>>>> • Break up the "too big to fail" banks that threaten our future>>>> • Arrest the financial fraudsters responsible for the 2008 meltdown and>> bring them to justice>>>> • Ordain a Presidential Commission tasked with ending the influence

>> corporate money has on our elected representatives in Washington>>>> If you agree with any of these demands, then join us!>>>> We will stay here in our encampment in Liberty Plaza until President Obama>> responds to each of these demands.>>>> This is just the beginning, there is more to come as we work together to>> reshape America.>>>> --- The People's Assembly of New York City>>



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Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: Re: [september17discuss] $6000?


And we're sure that offering food to people that can;t afford isn't a better idea?


So this is the twitter status with the right character count:

Join us in #NYC? Tweet your reason 2 #iwilloccupy and the top 5 will get a FREE round-trip NYC & a sleeping

bag upon arrival #takewallstreet

and is this really happening? I would love to start promoting it...

luv-p

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Justin Wedes < [email protected]> wrote:

Also keep in mind all of our food is available to anyone who is at the camp, so people can always come here toeat.

I'm just worried about allocating so much money while we're still building our "fundraising capabilities", in

parenthesis because i laugh at even calling this awesome crowd-sourced spontaneous mess that.

-justin

On Sep 20, 2011, at 8:58 PM, Yoni Golijov wrote:

Using the money to feed people who really need food is an excellent idea I think, I don't know

how many of them are near wall st so it would require concentrated outreach work to soup

kitchens and/or churchs where people normally go looking for food, / other thoughts?




Donate to the wall street occupation [email protected] 347 640 0925 Paging Publius.

#occupywallstreet has FLYER FUND. DONATEhttp://bit.ly/oo538N


I recently posted a message suggesting that we try to feed the hungry, but no one seems

to have commented on it. If we have $6000, I would like to suggest the idea one moretime. I feel it would amount tom putting our money where our mouth is.


Why not use the $6000 in food money for flyers? I believe Justin Wedes has access to the

account.


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print more once my boss has gone home. Nobody else in my office is sympathetic to the

occupation so I've got to be sneaky.

Rock on,

Jon



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+8



Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: Re: [september17discuss] A word about outreach

Date: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 5:18:14 PM

Yes!

On 09/21/11, Joshua van Praag<[email protected]> wrote:

Just been trawling the blogs for people's comments. A lot of stuff coming up about lack of coverage in the

mainstream media and many people I speak to around NYC have no idea what's going on. RSN (Reader

Supported news) has put together a good page which is being constantly updated.

http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/318-66/7468-occupy-wall-street-take-the-bull-by-the-horns

I include a couple of comments from their site below re media. I think we all need to start having some more

creative discussions about ways in which we can start to put pressure on some media outlets to cover the sit-in.

Amy Goodman and Michael Moore have both hit the nail on the head when they make the tea party comparison.

The Murdoch News of the world scandal in the UK has introduced the potential to dramatically shift the public'sperspective of mainstream media with the unvarnished revelations of criminality and its insidious relationship to

the state apparatus.

Things here haven't reached that point yet -- however, rivalry between select networks and broadsheets has

never been so intense as these companies fight for their share in an increasingly unstable market. All you have

to do is look at the extraordinary coverage the NYT gave to the phone hacking scandal - dozens of page 1

specials above the fold - and understand that they may have been motivated by something over than the pursuit

of truth : -) I realise that this may seem like a far-fetched analogy but when I saw the articles on the Yahoo

censorship that started to pop up it made me start thinking about all of this stuff. What if we did send delegations

to midtown to protest outside media organisations? And we start making lack of media coverage a story in and of

itself?

Thoughts anyone?

# Torvus 2011-09-19 15:03

And reading the comments about lack of sufficient media coverage, maybe protestorsshould demonstrate outside some of the media's centres of operation? If certain of themedia are so negatively selective in disseminating demonstrators news and views, what istheir news 'coverage' worth? That should get exposure and an overhaul along with WallStreet.

Joshua van Praag

+8# Dave45 2011-09-19 21:02

This is so great to see. Wouldn't it be great if "Occupy Wall Street" was onlypart one, with part two being a similar occupation of the media giants whorefuse to cover part one (or anything else slightly out of the ordinary that isbeneficial for common people).Obama--pay attention!The White House couldbe next.







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[email protected]

+1.347.445.8315

+44.(0)7787.896952

On Sep 21, 2011, at 3:54 PM, Micah White <[email protected]> wrote:

Harrison, I don't understand: there is no "riot porn" on Adbusters, and the scary video thatgrimwomyn is talking about is on the frontpage of your site: occupywallst.org

Email me off list if you have any comments about anything on adbusters.org -- however, let's be

respectful of the different perspectives that each of us is bringing to this occupation.

Micah

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Harrison Schultz <[email protected]> wrote:

I hope we can get this to Micah White and the AdBusters staff's attention, I wrote them a really

scathing email about all this back in the quite old days of Saturday GA bickering sessions,

maybe now he'll take this more seriously,

Rad/left through out the phrase the "Renaissance of Wall Street" which I think sums this up. I

think this is the right direction for our demand/message to move in.

H.

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 7:22 AM, grimwomyn <[email protected]> wrote:

Just seconding the thought about watching out for "riot porn." I wrote to a journalist from

WIRED on Twitter inviting him to spend the night in the park and his response is as follows:

"gr imwomyn The second post down makes that seem pretty scary. I hope everyone is (and

stays) okay."

Support, but fear of coming to the park. :(






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Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: Re: Re: Re: [september17discuss] $6000?


Oh and it would be a lot harder for our critics to make fun of us as a bunch of out of work hippy anarchist blah

blah blahs if we were feeding people every day.


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sneaky.

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To: september17

Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] anons backing off?


http://uk.ibtimes.com/articles/218365/20110922/anonymous-shift-focus-from-occupy-wall-street-to-

protest-troy-davis-murder-execution-death-hack-hack.htm

-j






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From: [email protected] on behalf of Justin Wedes


Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] anybody here from NH?


VenMills@OccupyWallStNYC New Hampshire newspaper interested in finding aseacoast NH resident to interview- possible story. Pls reply.9/23/11 12:43 PM






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Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Carpool to #OccupyWallStreet facebook page


anybody else notice this?

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From: [email protected] on behalf of J.A. Myerson


Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Does everyone know about this "counter protest?"


Sno bby Illiterati to Pr otest W all St. ‘Hippies’

W ith Champa gne Toast


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From: [email protected] on behalf of Joshua van Praag


Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Food donations


Hey guys -- it's Josh from media (British guy who's been shooting video)

I've been back at work for a few days on a shoot and have been missing you all terribly. I'm glued tothe feeds every spare second I have and

Joshua van Praag [email protected]

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From: [email protected] on behalf of Micah White


Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] for media team


Just received word from Guardian, they want to be flooded with pictures from thewall street occupation. Send everything you've got to: [email protected]

NOTE: Pictures must be captioned, or they will not be used. It's very importantthat the captions are included into the 'Description' field of 'File info' inPhotoshop. Include a brief description and the name of the photographer.

That extra step may make things more difficult, but it is unfortunately necessary.











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Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Fwd: a proposal or an idea.


This is perhaps for the labor group - but since I do not think we yet

have separate groups - I am sending it to the list.

This is from someone with whom I used to work politically. He isinvolved in a struggle in Korea and asks for solidarity and support.

Can the Labor Group take this on?

Marina

---------- Forwarded message ----------From: Kap Seol <[email protected]>Date: Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 12:02 PMSubject: a proposal or an idea.


Marina,

I hope this note finds you well. I went down to Liberty St today. Iwork nearby. It was an impressive scene. Good job and keep going,comrade. Do you think you and your comrades show solidarity with KimJin-suk. She is the Korean female welder who has been staging a lonesit-in on the top of a shipyard crane since January?

I just finished a profile of her for The Progressive and hersupporters call their fifth mobilization called Hope Riders for Oct.

8. Can you and your comrades, for example, put on the masks of KimJin-suk and yell "we are all Kim Jin-suk" after reading a solidaritystatement? If you want, she can make a short speech via Smartphone (Ican organize). Here is the link to my Labor Notes piece:

http://labornotes.org/blogs/2011/08/koreans-brave-pepper-spray-thugs-rally-crane-sit

Kim will appreciate any form of solidarity. I can be reached at 917710 8503. I am looking forward to hearing from you soon.

KS

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Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Fwd: Food donations


Hey comrades -- its Josh from media (British guy who's been shooting video :-))

Have been working on a shoot for the last few days - hence my absence - but have been glued to thefeeds every spare second I have and am missing u all terribly.

I have been talking to the movie caterers around the city (I'm a filmmaker and come into regularcontact with them) and have been asking them to send leftovers down to the park. Very positiveresponses so far, also from craft service guys who always have tons of leftovers. Trying to coordinatetheir delivery but wanted to see of anyone from the food committee might be up for doing a pick up ortwo.

I'm also reachable by phone 347-445-8315

In solidarity

Josh.









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From: [email protected] on behalf of Matthew Bralow


Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Fwd: Move the Planet in New York City this Saturday


MANY groups converging at UN today at 2pm to speak up against climate change!

---------- Forwarded message ----------From: Pow er Shift Team <[email protected]>Date: Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 2:32 PMSubject: Move the Planet in New York City this SaturdayTo: [email protected]

Energy Action Coalition

Dear friends,

On Saturday, Septem ber 24th, som ething b ig is happening in Manhat t an.


thousands happening around the world. Some of the actions this year are shaping up to be really

huge and you are fortunate to live near to one of the really big planned actions. You won’t want to

miss it.


WHEN: 2pm

WHAT: In this great opportunity to demonstrate the strength of our movement to both US and

world leaders we will rally at United Nations’ Dag Hammarskjold Plaza in Manhattan. We’ll be

joined by Vice President Hassan of the Maldives, top climate scientist Dr. James Hansen, a

delegation of indigenous leaders from around the world, and local climate leaders like Colin

Beavan (“No Impact Man”).

Get In On The Action

I hope you can make it on Saturday! Together, we’ll help move the planet away from fossil fuels.

See you out there!

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Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Fwd: Move the Planet in Manhattan this Saturday


Are you guys aware of this action? Is it worth involving the GA in some way?

From: "Moving Planet team"

Date: Sep 20, 2011 12:01:53 PM

Subject: Move the Planet in Manhattan this Saturday

To: "John McGloin" <[email protected]>

Dear friends,

On Saturday, September 24th, something big is happening in Manhattan.


thousands happening around the world. Some of the actions this year are shaping up to

be really huge and you are fortunate to live near to one of the really big planned actions.

You won’t want to miss it.


WHEN: 2pm

WHAT: In this great opportunity to demonstrate the strength of our movement to both

US and world leaders we will rally at United Nations' Dag Hammarskjold Plaza in

Manhattan. We'll be joined by Vice President Hassan of the Maldives, top climate scientist

Dr. James Hansen, a delegation of indigenous leaders from around the world, and local

climate leaders like Colin Beavan ("No Impact Man").

moving-planet.org/events/us/manhattan/348

I hope you can make it on Saturday! Together, we’ll help move the planet away from

fossil fuels.

See you out there!

The Moving Planet NYC Team

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Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] good news: spread this far and wide


Amy Goodman from Democracy Now! has just publicly endorsed occupy wall streetin an op-ed in the Guardian:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/sep/21/occupy-wall-street-amy-goodman

This is very good news, and I suggest we make a concerted push to have thisarticle blasted everywhere as it gives us tremendous legitimacy in the mainstreamleft.

If we can think of a good hashtag to celebrate her endorsement maybe we can getit trending -- #thankyouamy or #amyisright or #amyoccupies













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From: [email protected] on behalf of NicolasMoselleAllen


Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Guest Speaker?


Dear Occupiers,

After several unsuccessful solicitations for guest speakers- MichaelParent wishes us well and regrets that he can't be in New York; DavidHarvey is out of the country; Richard Wolff promises to plug theOccupation on his lecture circuit - I received an affirmativecommitment today from Stathis Gourgouris of Columbia University. Notquite as much of a "household name", Stathis is, among other things, atop-shelf anarchist intellectual who regularly teaches a class onradical democracy at Columbia, and, perhaps more importantly, he is"intrigued" by what we are doing and would like to speak at LibertyPlaza. Stathis has been active at the Greek Syntagma and providedseveral in-depth analysis of that movement for Al-Jazeera and othermajor news sources. Also, he's a very kind man. I think this could bea great addition to the Wall Street Occupation and, following on the

heels of Ivan's presentation, would help to further the trend of drawing speakers to the space. So, what do you say? I suppose Ishould begin by making a proposal at the GA, but doesn't this soundgood?

Love,

Nico









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Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Helium balloons


I think a lot of beautiful colored balloons would help the Plaza

image. Festive and fun - plus we can write messages on them, or use afew together to make a phrase (We are the 99%) etc. If they are heliumand high enough they will not obstruct the view of anyone (policerequirements either). We can give them to children who pass ... have abunch together by the stairs so people passing can have a little ideawhat we are about ... lots of ideas.

I will bring some Saturday, but imagine the more the better.

Marina










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From: [email protected] on behalf of J.A. Myerson


Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] How do I...



JAM









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Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] keep in mind: showing Liberato"s Pizza love


hey guys,

Spoke with Telly today, manager, and told me he'd received a few hate calls and mean comments frompeople coming into his store.

He's gotten quite a bit of press (see http://gawker.com/5841874/how-a-pizza-joint-became-the-official-caterer-of-the-revolution )

and is very happy to be getting our business, but our relationship should remain non-political, and weneed to show him some love.

also, i will bring up in tomorrow's GA a proposal to outreach to more local businesses to establish similarrelationships.

-j






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Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] keith olberman


http://www.politicususa.com/en/keith-olbermann-occupy-wall-street

Good stuff, right!

does anybody have the hi-res of that money shot in front of the fed?

-justin











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Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Legal/Solidarity workshop today at 4 - Wednesday


The legal working group, myself included, is facilitating a legal and

solidarity workshop today in the Plaza at 4pm.

We will not only discuss formal 'rights' but how things often can playout, despite these rights. We will also do a number of roll plays towork on acting together and in solidarity.

Marina










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From: [email protected] on behalf of MAd Hatter

To: september17

Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] March of the 99% Saturday 12pm


Folks, here is a simple message to send to every person, union, community group ornon-profit. Let's build our movement. Celebrate our one week Anniversary with our

largest march yet.

************************************************Solidarity March. Saturday 12pm. We are unions, students, teachers, veterans, firstresponders, families, the unemployed and underemployed. We are all races, sexesand creeds. We are the majority. We are the 99 percent. And we will no longer besilent.

As members of the 99 percent, we occupy Wall Street as a symbolic gesture of ourdiscontent with the current economic and political climate and as an example of abetter world to come. Therefore we invite the public, our fellow 99 percent, to joinus in a march on SATURDAY AT NOON, starting from LIBERTY SQUARE (ZUCCOTTI

PARK) at LIBERTY & BROADWAY.

This is a call for individuals, families and community and advocacy groups to marchin solidarity withe occupywallstreet movement.









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Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Media Group: Photographer Available


A friend of mine is in town for a documentary and to cover the OWS effort.. if thereare things that you would like to be focused on (like the diversity of participants) let

me know and I will forward on...

Cheers-

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 8:12 AM, Luis Moreno-Caballud<[email protected]> wrote:

great ideas!

On Sep 22, 2011, at 1:54 AM, Vicente Rubio wrote:

Hi,

these are two simple suggestion for the media people. I would havedone them by myself if I knew how to do it and have the necessarymaterial, but I don't, so I throw the idea here just in case someonefinds it useful. I offer any help I can to whoever is interested in doingthis.

music videoDo you remember Saturday's assembly, when someone started to singJourney's "Don't stop believing"? Everyone there started singing. It maysound not very "radical", but it was probably my favorite moment of that night (and there were plenty of them!). Very nice, warm and funnymoment.

Why don't edit a video using that song? We could use lots of footage of the assemblies, and even some frames of participants singing to thecamera. Whatever works.I know. The song is cheesy. That's precisely a strong part of its power.It has a meaning for the Liberty Plaza community, but also is a famoussong (a subtle, powerful depiction of the american working classeveryday life) and contains an encouraging message. Really good for aviral!Journey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfUYuIVbFg0Glee http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWMYGLxSWPM(I personally prefer the original by Journey. Glee's is maybe morepopular now, but Journey's retains the working class element)

slideshowIn Barcelona they use to have a gallery of photos of participants. Theyare amazing, precisely because they show the enormous diversityamong the people there. Here is a slideshow:http://www.flickr.com/photos/63055421@N04/sets/72157626783708762/show/with/5748872448/Would it be possible to arrange a similar gallery?Just having aphotographer taking such portraits at different times of the day. Indoing so, we can try to communicate the existing diversity of the







http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfUYuIVbFg0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWMYGLxSWPM

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movement we want to build. This could be posted to the NYCGA blog.

What do you think? You all must be exhausted. Just let me know if there's anybody interested.



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Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Michael Moore Supports NYC Occupation & calls for the Occupation of WallStreets


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrFQs5X-I1Y

Worth sharing.M.












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To: september17

Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Observations from the hotline


The thing that really has captured the imaginations of the people I have been talkingto is the anti-corporacracy slant of the original messaging.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporacracy











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Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] OccupyWallSt in the Guardian today

Date: Monday, September 19, 2011 10:30:25 AM

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/sep/19/occupy-wall-street-financial-system

Bold and beautiful comment on our bold and beautiful action in the Guardian today!

Joshua van Praag [email protected]

+1.347.445.8315+44.(0)7787.896952











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From: [email protected] on behalf of Alexandre Machado De Sant"Anna Carvalho


Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] On Using Corporate Money and the Inherent Risks Involved, and a Bit Moreon What We Are Doing


Hey guys;

This is such an important issue. I tend to agree with Micah and Harrison at the sametime (can you please become friends again? lol). On Micah's point, there is aconsiderable risk of co-opt when corporate money starts to sustain our movement -there is a subtle tendency to lose autonomy and a desire to please patrons, making

the radicalized aspect of what we are doing lose taste and become, as all things thatcorporate ideology touches, insipid and dehumanized. On the other hand, i alsoagree with Harrison, that it is beautiful to go Robin Hood, and steal from the richand use their game to fund its own subversion. Specially in a world wherecorporations feed us, clothe us, oversee our communications, build the chairs we aresitting, etc...

I have been approached by many people that said, "You are a hypocrite. Why thenare you using Facebook, Twitter to spread the word? why your pizza is Papa John's?Why do you make use of an iPad or iPhone then?", which is a good point butultimately a false misconception. I believe none of us is lunatic enough to deny thegood services and products that made us stand where we are. From vaccines tolaser registers, iPhones and iPads, even the thyroid medication i am forced to takeand on which my life depends - dude, i don't think we deny the benefits of technological advance. We appreciate them. Thanks. But this does not mean that weare unaware of how the world works. Cannot speak for everyone else, but i think people on thismovement envision different ways to arrive at certain products; i.e., how to organize

labor, how to make products, distribute them, research them, and specially FUNDthem... we believe that the end is not the problem, but the MEANS. Theprocess by which we arrive at iPads or iPhone's is fucked up, not the freakingtelephones per se. Maybe an exception can be made to death machines such as A-bombs and the like...

Don't feel guilty of making the revolution with the weapons at your reach. All of what we are doing is a direct challenge to the PROCESSES of mainstream society.That's why many voices on the ground keep repeating that the GA and theoccupation is much more about process than a single demand or goal. Which doesnot exclude demands or goals of course! :-)

Here:

(1) We are creating bottom-up participatory democracy as a direct challengeto the failed representative democracy in America and in the w orld, andare inviting people to rekindle their political agency and make it a way of life. Wecreated an open society in an otherwise dehumanized zone where business as usualis the law. (2) We are building a space where individual and collective autonomy isexercised, and transforming our territoriality while doing it: Liberty Square became









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a place for social experimentation and the vision of what our society could be.Therefore, it is paramount that we start experimenting with new foodalternatives, renewable electricity generation, aesthetic approaches,sexual ethics, polit ical-economic alternatives, etc. (3) We are leveraging people power to clog the machine , everyday; byswarming the Financial District with our marches and continuing with our non-

violent, creative civil disobedient acts, we are throwing a pil low on theclockwork, jamming it. This is the way we will pressure for ourdemands and objectives once we zero-in on them. And they do not need to be one,but can be many; and they can be addressed to local administration (municipality),state, or federal level. We even got our lovely UN bearby to pressure for globalactions. (4) It m ust be decentralized . One overarching demand for the whole globalrevolution is dangerous. Let the many occupations that are popping up in Americaand elsewhere fight for improvements on their communities and let's coordinate withthose different autonomous zones for the things that we all care about on a globalscale.

All of this to say that we are in the right track, but should remain vigilant and self-critical to see if we are selling out our movement, and the extent that we may gobefore we can say that the line has being crossed.

All the best,

Alê--

Alexandre M.S. Carvalho, M.D., MPH2009 Reynolds Fellowmobile +1 914 563 4209

home +1 914 633 0415www.nyu.edu/reynolds





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From: [email protected] on behalf of Snafu


Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Open Letter to the People of the United States and the World (draft)


Dear Friend,

We are the citizens and non-citizens of the General Assembly of New York City. We come

from every walk of life, a variety of cultural, political, and religious backgrounds. Yet weshare the same indignation for the common wealth that has been pillaged by the global

institutions of finance with the complacency of the world’s governments—a looting that hasled to massive unemployment, generalized cuts to public services, despair and resignation. It

is the same indignation that has prompted the people of Greece and Spain to occupy streetsand squares on a permanent basis, the people of Egypt and Tunisia to overthrow their

governments, the people of Iceland to nationalize their bank system and rewrite theconstitution.

Over the past few weeks we have begun to share this indignation and listen to each other in aseries of public meetings open to everyone. Freely inspired by the general assemblies that aremushrooming in every corner of the planet we have begun to bring our differences together

through a consensual decision-making process. Such process does not aim at erasingdifferences. On the contrary it wants to multiply them so that we may begin to rebuild thisnation and this world anew.

One of the first concrete steps we have decided to take is to initiate on September 17 a

peaceful occupation of the streets and squares surrounding Wall Street. We have set ourheadquarters in Liberty Square (Zuccotti Park) and we ask you to join and support us

in order to extend and continue this occupation. At the moment we do not have notformulated a definitive list of demands. However, the Assembly initiated a conversation

through which a number of proposals and perspectives unfolded. The main points that arecurrently under discussion try to link the struggle for social and economic justice to the

struggle for real democracy:

- Reinstitution of the 1933 Glass-Steagall Act that separates investment banking fromcommercial banking.

- Introduction of a Robin Hood Tax (or Tobin Tax) on all financial transactions.

- Abolition of the Tax Reconciliation Act and immediate pairing of taxes long-term capital

gains with income tax.

- Abrogation of the extension of the 14th Amendment protection to corporations (end of

corporate personhood).

- Ban on corporate funding to political candidates. Introduction of a tax bonus that allowseach citizen to donate the same amount of money to a candidate or party of his or her choice.

- Radical reform of the electoral system, with the introduction of proportional correctives that

will enable new political formations to compete on an equal foot with the two major parties.









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These are only some concrete proposals we have begun to discuss in the NYCGA. Many of

us think that what truly matters at this stage is to create a shared framework which mayenable everyone to speak out, be heard, co-evolve and grow with others. If you look through

this framework you may not see one defined picture. If you walk through it you will beamazed at the strange world on the other side. It is time to take back our lives. We ask you to

join us now in Liberty Square or start your own General Assembly in your own town.

In solidarity and struggle,

The General Assembly of New York City



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From: [email protected] on behalf of Larissa Belcic

To: september17

Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] PR Blurb


I wrote up this PR Blurb regarding Saturday as well as the weekday

schedule (it appears here sans formatting). I think that what it isreally lacking is contact information--there needs to be an emailaddress and phone number that people can get in touch with for anyquestions. Anyone know what to put down? Also I think an outreach letter and a press release need to beconcocted ASAP. There should be one open letter for individuals aswell as a more direct letter we can submit to organizations asking fortheir support. Thoughts?

Political parties govern in the name of the 1% who control almost allfinancial wealth, but almost all of us are the 99%.

We are gathering in a space in the heart of Wall Street to bring ourconcerns to light. Join us this Saturday, September 23rd at 12PM atZuccotti Park in NYC for We Are the 99% Day.

All are welcome! Air your concerns, discuss your opinions, and join usin making our presence in this nation known.

You may also join us on weekdays at 9AM for a march to Wall Street forthe opening bell, at 1PM for General Assembly to discuss strategiesand issues, and at 3:30PM for a march to Wall Street for the closingbell.

If you are frustrated with America’s financial climate, come and make

it known. We are the 99%, and so are you.

Facebook Status Post:Political parties govern in the name of the 1% who control almost allfinancial wealth, but almost all of us are the 99%.

We are gathering in a space in the heart of Wall Street to bring ourconcerns to light. Join us this Saturday, September 23rd at 12PM atZuccotti Park in NYC for We Are the 99% Day.









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To: september17

Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Prez obamas location today


grimwomyn (@grimwomyn) has shared a Tweet with you:

"grimwomyn: Go let him know why you #occupywallstreet Pres Obama at Waldorf till about 630pm, then to NY Public Library, 42nd and 5th"--http://twitter.com/grimwomyn/status/116619130655870976






http://twitter.com/grimwomyn/status/116619130655870976

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To: september17

Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Printing flyers











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Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] proposal: Open Letter to America


Hi everyone,

I have a proposal: maybe it would help if we drafted an open letter to the AmericanPeople.

I wrote a rough draft. What do you think? If this is something that you'd like to seethe GA agree on, please say so.

Micah

A MESSAGE TO AMERICA FROM THE PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY IN ZUCOTTI PARK

Dear fellow Americans,

We are assembled in Zucotti Park - which we've renamed Liberty Plaza - in thefinancial district of New York, because we believe that the American economy isheading in the wrong direction and we have a few ideas for what to do about it.

There is a feeling shared by a growing number of people on the streets of the worldthat the global economy has become a kind of Ponzi scheme, a global casino, run byand for the benefit of the 1%.

We believe that it is possible to inject justice into the global economy. We havecome up with the following list of things that can be done right now to rejuvenate

democracy and economic justice in our country:

• Halt foreclosures for the unemployed, sick and elderly

• Increase funding to public services by taxing the richest 1%

• Forgive all student loan debt

• Reinstate the Glass-Steagall Act in order to control speculation

• Work with the other G20 nations to implement a 1% "Robin Hood" tax on allfinancial transactions and currency trades

• Ban high-frequency 'flash' trading and bring sanity to the markets

• Break up the "too big to fail" banks that threaten our future

• Arrest the financial fraudsters responsible for the 2008 meltdown and bring themto justice

• Ordain a Presidential Commission tasked with ending the influence corporatemoney has on our elected representatives in Washington









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If you agree with any of these demands, then join us!

We will stay here in our encampment in Liberty Plaza until President Obamaresponds to each of these demands.

This is just the beginning, there is more to come as we work together to reshape

America.

--- The People's Assembly of New York City



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From: [email protected] on behalf of Cesar

To: Cesar

Cc : Luis Moreno-Caballud; [email protected]; BegoniaSanta-Cecilia; Vicente Rubio; AngelLuis Lara

Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: #OccupyWallStreet stays alive by becoming #WeAreThe99%


... include undocumented workers and students, it sounds better than non-citizen.

Cesar

Sent from phone

On Sep 20, 2011, at 12:09 PM, Cesar <[email protected]> wrote:

I do not think hashtagg/name is mayor reachout problem, Although itcould improve.

Short Definition of motive would help a Lot. Check out STop the macineOct6.Include citizens and non-citizens in Short statement. It will definemovement in more human framework and promote broadest allience.Reach out to unions, and grasroots without message is difficult. Yes,along the lines of freedom fro Wall street and their representatives inWashington.

Snt frm phn

On Sep 19, 2011, at 11:47 PM, Luis Moreno-Caballud<[email protected]> wrote:

Dear friends,

It looks like #OccupyWallStreet is in urgent need of a

massive and targeted outreach operation to stay alive.

The key to the success of the movement is to beinclusive. Right now the movement is too

homogeneous, due to the "activist" imaginary andlanguage identified with it (example: the word

"occupy", the images of stereotypical activists used by Adbusters, etc).

If we really want to start a massive movement like the

ones in Egypt, Iceland, Spain, Greece, etc, we should























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change those referents. If we don't act quickly themovement will vanish, and it would have been just

another activist movement. I propose that we start

today a fast and massive outreach campaign with thisidea: #WeAreThe99% .

This is the plan: we put all our energy and resourcesin outreaching for the #WeAreThe99% Day which

will happen next Saturday 23rd, at our space inZucotti/Liberty Park. We propose tomorrow at the

assembly: everyone form groups and march right now

to different spots in the city (squares, neighborhoods,universities, labor unions) with signs, fliers, and a clear

message:

"Political parties govern in the name of the 1%

that control almost all f inancial wealth. We arethe 99% ."

"We have taken a space at the heart of WallStreet to start changing this situation. Join us at

Zucotti/ Liberty Park on Saturday September23rd for the We Are The 99% Day. Stay with

us."

What do you think? We have a lot of attention in the

internet and even mainstream media, let's use it nowbefore it's gone! Let's create a really inclusive and

massive movement, let's go beyond traditionalidentities, let's become a real multitude!



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From: [email protected] on behalf of Winter Siroco

To: september17

Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: Five demands from the NYCGA: how to link the struggle for democracyto the struggle for social and economic justice


This sounds great!! and is suitable for immediate implementation. Itwould solve the problems of a lot of people. Of course, this is notexclusive of longer-term and deeper social and economicaltransformations that we should start first in our hearts and minds.Cesar

On Sep 20, 7:52 pm, Snafu <[email protected]> wrote:> Hi all,>> I apologize for being off-list and off-the-streets for a few days, but I> was lucky enough to become a father on September 17!>> I personally believe that the obstination of some members of the NYCGA > on not having demands has proved disastrous and resulted in a PR

> debacle. Invariably, almost all mainstream media accounts of the> protests note that the demonstrators have confused ideas and are> probably motivated by merely ideological motives.>> Further, this refusal of having demands has nothing to do with the> current movements in the Middle East, Spain and Greece all of which have> clear and loud demands. In the case of Arab countries and Middle Eastern> autocracies the demand cannot be but one (remove the dictator). In> Greece and Spain the situation is more complex but the movements there> have been able to develop specific analyses and requests. In particular> the Joint Economics Working Group of Syntagma Square and Puerta del Sol> have drafted a document (http://bit.ly/npCWkg) that lists a specific set> of demands, such as the request of nationalizing the banks, withdrawing> the EU/IMF Memorandum imposed on Greece, make the accounting records> transparent, and so forth.>> As I have previously suggested, the three simple demands that the NYCGA > should have raised in the call to Occupy Wall Street should have been:>> 1) Reintroduction of the Glass-Steagall Act, a law regulating the bank > system that separated investment banks from commercial banks. This law,> originally approved in 1933 and signed into law by FDR has been repealed> in 1999. As Wikipedia simply states it, "Most economists believe this> repeal directly contributed to the severity of the Financial crisis of > 2007--2011 by allowing Wall Street investment banking firms to gamble> with their depositors' money that was held in commercial banks owned or> created by the investment firms."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass--Steagall_Act

>> 2) *Immediate introduction of a Tobin Tax or Robin Hood Tax*on all> financial transactions both at a national and international level. On a> national level, it would be sufficient for Congress to pass it. On an> international level, the IMF could subordinate loans to countries in> debt to the introduction of a Tobin Tax instead of requiring massive> privatizations as it ordinarily does through the notorious structural> adjustment programs. In Europe, Angela Merkel and Nicholas Sarkozy have> officialized their support to the introduction of such tax in the EU> about three weeks ago. Last June over 1,000 economist submitted a letter> by 1,000 economists to the G20 last April that explains why the idea of







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> a global Robin Hood Tax has "come of age."> (http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/apr/13/robin-hood-tax-economi...)> Robinhoodtax.org, a web site run by a British NGO that explains in very> simple terms how it works and how much revenue it could generate. The> NGO also has a Facebook page.>> 3) *Raise taxes on qualified dividends and long-term capital gains *by> pairing the long-term capital gains tax rate (which applies to financial

> assets held for more than a year) to the ordinary income tax rates. At> the moment, thanks to the Tax Reconciliation Act signed by Bush into law> in 2006 and extended by the Obama administration to 2012 and beyond,> capital gains cannot be taxed more than 20% whereas income tax is taxed> up to 35%. This means that if your wage falls for example in the> $35,000-83,000 bracketyour income tax is 25% whereas if you make 1, 10,> or 100 million dollars on the stock market your pay 20% only. Even> Warren Buffett says that this system is openly unjust and that the> current taxation system is profoundly unbalanced and skewed towards> financial profit.> (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/15/opinion/stop-coddling-the-super-ric...)>> These three proposals are far from revolutionary yet they could begin> raising specific questions and help bring a variety of subjects into the

> conversation. The notion that a movement is defined by its demands is> ridiculous. A social movement is much more than a set of demands yet> demands help those who are not on your side understand who you are and> where you come from.>> Two other critical points that should be discussed in the GA are the> public funding of political campaigns and the two-party system. A > paramount political objective should be to get corporations to stop> funding political candidates. You cannot have real democracy with the> current system of fundraising. A truly democratic system would give each> citizen a tax bonus of the SAME AMOUNT and enable each one of us to> decide how to allocate such money. A truly democratic society should> also not rely on forms of political representation based on a

> majoritarian (first-past-the-post) electoral system. If we are the 99%> of the country, then we ought to be able to convince the rest of the> nation that the 99% counts in fact nothing. And corporate funding and> the two-party system should be the two main targets of a campaign for> real democracy.>> To sum up, the question of the redistribution of wealth and democratic> control over the financial system cannot be disconnected from the> question of political representation. Organizing a movement that fights> "against representative politics" does not mean in my opinion to fight> against *any* form of representation, but certainly against the current> system of representation. We are over 6 billions on this planet.> Thinking that each individual should have the right to decide on every> issue in every part of the world at all times may sound fascinating but

> it is simply unrealistic and unrealizable. Whether we like it or not, we> constantly delegate to others the understanding of issues and execution> of tasks we simply do not have the time to understand and care about.> (The worldwide professionalization of national armies and the advanced> specialization of knowledge in scientific and academic research are just> two notable cases in point).>> Thus the question is not how to abolish authority and representation per> se but how to produce forms of representation that are truly> representative, renewable and non-ossified. The NYCGA could be such a> body, once we live behind the rather childish notion that demands define



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> us and by defining us trap us in some blind alley from which we'll be> unable to move forward.>> Cheers,> Snafu



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From: [email protected] on behalf of Lauren

To: september17

Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: Five demands and banks


I'd like to interject on this.

Yes, it's going to be self-defeating for now because the majority of the people has no idea what capitalism even means, doesn't know thealternatives. How many people know about worker's cooperatives? Howmany people know about participatory economics?

Big money has a much smaller role in british elections: do they seemthat much better? Neoliberal capitalism was still the core of theireconomy last I checked, and their economy is still getting run byLondon banks that are imploding from their creative use of pure mathsas source of moneymaking schemes (aka. If the economic center remainsin the hands of the few, no amount of electoral reform will give powerto the people. We don't need the tea party. We are on the edge of aterrible crisis. French and German banks have played as dirty as the

american and british banks and most of their wealth is an enormoussham, with so many derivatives sold on Greek, Spanish and Italian debtthat the moment one defaults (Greece is a matter of when, not if), thelargest banks in Europe, and the largest bank in the world, period,are going to be completely wrecked.

We can show the way. We can be the example: we can help people formcooperatives, link people, form collectives. Yes it could be seen asmission creep and no it's not demand material, it's call to actionmaterial. The french army during the revolution was said to be aroving school that spread literacy like nothing else had: we can dothe same for skills, trades, knowledge. People are joining us: it'smoved beyond NYC, the number of popular assemblies in America is

growing as we speak.

And sorry if I got carried away.

On Sep 22, 7:25 pm, [email protected] wrote:> I think 'abolish capitalism' would be self defeating as demand. A majority of the 99% has no interestin abolishing capitalism, and such a statement would be used to marginalize us. In the long run Iwould like to abolish capitalism, but the world cannot wait for that before more pressing problems getsolved. Let's take the legs out of giant coporations first, so we can get people back to work, get peoplehealthcare, have a functioning democracy and in general turn the conversation the world is having frommore and more austerity to a sustainable world. If you really want to try to abolish capitalism rightnow, I would suggest joining the Tea Party and pushing capitalism toward as many terrible crisis thatyou can make, so that revolution comes. But I have no faith that revolution would do anything acceptmake arms dealers and the violent richer than ever.

>> I know that many of you think that working within the system at all is a mistake, and I can't blameyou, but my goal is for real people to take control of the system and to slowly change it so that it helpseveryone. Consensus takes a long time to build. Let's not try to take short cuts to our ultimate goal of a human race generous enough that it can live together without greed and violence.>>>> In Solidarity, John McGloin









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From: [email protected] on behalf of Richard S.

To: september17

Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: Fwd: Re: Realnews Video


I told everybody weeks ago on this same e-mail list that Real News

would be good. Everybody ignored me except for one person who sentme a personal e-mail sort of saying, we're more interested inDemocracy Now now, but you go contact them if you like. Well, I neverdid, but I'm glad someone else did.

John Mc, yes, I agree that the interview with you was a highlight inthis, even though we don't always agree. :)

Richard

On Sep 22, 6:54 pm, [email protected] wrote:> Have you guys seen this?>

>>>>> From: Rich Florentino>> Date: Sep 22, 2011 11:16:17 AM>> Subject: Re: Video>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>>> Cc: Alex Klaver <[email protected]>

>>>> -----Original Message-----> From: Alex Klaver> Sent: Sep 22, 2011 3:10 AM> To: Rich Florentino> Subject:> Hey Rich,>> Send this video along to John McGloin, he's got a nice little interview about 4 minutesin. http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=7338&updaterx=2011-09-20+12%3A45%3A54

>>>> -Alex






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To: september17

Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: headsets instead of amplification.


I agree. If it could be done it could really be a way to solve thesound problem.

On Sep 22, 3:15 pm, [email protected] wrote:> I'm not up on the mechanics of this exactly, but most people have headsets and a lot of people have ipods. Do we have the capability to do podcasts? One ipod could probably run a few sets of headphones if cheap headphone amps could be found. I'm not sure how we would work the microphone thing though. Also it would not be as inviting to passers-by.>> I'm actually quite fond of the people's microphone: unifying and fun. It may be that in a huge crowd we could have small groups with headphones dispersed around the crowd to do people's mic on alarge scale.

>>>>>>>> On 09/22/11,Matthew Bralow<[email protected]>wrote:regarding one possible very effective use of money... perhaps a> contest for artists - $100 - $300 award for most powerful graphic or> slogan.. to be used to promote this movement.> also, this may be outrageously expensive... but who knows... maybe a> company sympathetic to cause would be willing to donate old> equipment... or sell deeply discounted...> to get around sound amplification issue, maybe we can use what the> zoo, museums, tour guides and the UN uses.... wireless headsets for> the meetings, debates, special guest speakers, etc.... maybe even have> translator headsets? just did a google search and attached some> links. we would of course need LOTS of these (and a way and procedure> to charge the batteries etc)... but just an idea to help us get around> this important sound amplification issue> -------------- -----http://www.articlesbase.com/international-business-articles/translation-headsets-interpreter-headphones-how-they-are-used-2661973.htmlhttp://www.barinas.com/http://www.m-rcom.com/index.phphttp://www.ubiqus.com/site/GB/Services/Services/Interpretation,C2796,I2795.htm?KM_Session=9f2e571d58cf9371ca7cf358d5854fd1http://www.ubiqus.com/site/GB/Services/Services/Audience_Response_and_Mobile_Phone_Conference_Texting,C2875,I2796.htm?KM_Session=9f2e571d58cf9371ca7cf358d5854fd1http://www.abbn.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=WSPFA&Category_Code=GLShttp://www.guideport.com/sennheiser/guideport_eng.nsf/root/museum-exhibition-headphones-guide.htmlhttp://www.m-rcom.com/interpretation-equipment-hire.php

> or find a translation/interpretor services company that has old> equipment they're willing to donate/sellhttp://www.mfmci.com/sis.htmlhttp://latranslation.com/interpreters/international-conference-call-serviceshttp://www.trustedtranslations.com/translation-services/onsite-interpretation.asphttp://tembua.com/Conferencehttp://www.easyworldnet.com/eng/interpreti.htmlhttp://www.conferencelanguageservices.com/interpreting.htmlhttp://www.axistranslations.com/conference-interpreter.htmlhttp://www.kworks.in/interpretation.htm> On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 5:16 AM, Alexa D. O'Brien <[email protected]> wrote:> > Jem,> > Don't be a retard. The food fund has 15,000 in it. Spare us.> >> > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 8:48 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:> >>> >> Are flyers really more important than feeding people?> >>> >>> >> On 09/20/11, Alexa D. O'Brien<[email protected]> wrote:> >> Donate to the wall street [email protected] 640 0925begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 347 640 0925 end_of_the_skype_highlighting> >> Paging Publius. #occupywallstreet has FLYER FUND. DONATEhttp://bit.ly/oo538N> >>> >> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 7:47 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:> >>>> >>> I recently posted a message suggesting that we try to feed the hungry,> >>> but no one seems to have commented on it. If we have $6000, I would like to> >>> suggest the idea one more time. I feel it would amount tom putting our> >>> money where our mouth is.> >>>> >>>

> >>> On 09/20/11, Doug Singsen<[email protected]> wrote:> >>> Why not use the $6000 in food money for flyers? I believe Justin Wedes> >>> has access to the account.> >>>> >>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Jon Good <[email protected]>> >>> wrote:> >>>>> >>>> I was only able to crank out 100, which I left on the table by the front> >>>> of the GA. I'll try and print more once my boss has gone home. Nobody else> >>>> in my office is sympathetic to the occupation so I've got to be sneaky.> >>>>> >>>> Rock on,> >>>> Jon> >>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 2:46 PM, MAd Hatter> >>>> <[email protected]> wrote:> >>>>>> >>>>> Who can print flyers? We need thousands.> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> --> >>[email protected]> >>www.alexaobrien.com> >> >

> >> > --> >[email protected]> >www.alexaobrien.com> >










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To: september17

Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: Helium balloons


Yes :)

On Sep 23, 7:52 am, Marina Sitrin <[email protected]> wrote:> I think a lot of beautiful colored balloons would help the Plaza> image. Festive and fun - plus we can write messages on them, or use a> few together to make a phrase (We are the 99%) etc. If they are helium> and high enough they will not obstruct the view of anyone (police> requirements either). We can give them to children who pass ... have a> bunch together by the stairs so people passing can have a little idea> what we are about ... lots of ideas.>> I will bring some Saturday, but imagine the more the better.>> Marina>

> --> Seamos realistas, hagamos lo imposible ~ che









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To: Justin Wedes

Cc: C_G; Justine; [email protected]

Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: Possible "Counter Protest"


PS - Re: the "laxative-laced muffins" threat:

spreading this around camp can only lead to fear. in my mind the important thing todo is to document all people who donate, take a pic get name/number, take pic of donation. then if anything funky happens we have footage.

who knows if there are any muffins coming, if they will actually be muffins, or if theywill come at 4.

-justin

On Sep 23, 2011, at 11:18 AM, Justin Wedes wrote:

Let's all take a breath. If this isn't organized by sympathizers, it shouldbe co-opted by us!

What a beautiful piece of street theatre.

And the facebook event:


-justin

On Sep 23, 2011, at 10:59 AM, C_G wrote:

You two are the people I imagine would be most likely to getthis e-mail. There might be a counter-protest today. We needto warn people against any muffins as well.

---------- Forwarded message ----------Date: Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:49 AMSubject: Possible "Counter Protest"To: [email protected]


I don't know if this will actually happen, but it can't hurt to bewary of any muffins circulating this afternoon.

Peace,Dayna























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To: C_G

Cc: Justine; [email protected]

Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: Possible "Counter Protest"


Let's all take a breath. If this isn't organized by sympathizers, it should be co-opted

by us!

What a beautiful piece of street theatre.

And the facebook event:


-justin

On Sep 23, 2011, at 10:59 AM, C_G wrote:

You two are the people I imagine would be most likely to get this e-mail.There might be a counter-protest today. We need to warn people againstany muffins as well.

---------- Forwarded message ----------Date: Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:49 AMSubject: Possible "Counter Protest"To: [email protected]

http://gawker.com/5843209/snobby-illiteraterati-to-protest-wall-st-

hippies-with-champagne-toast

I don't know if this will actually happen, but it can't hurt to be wary of any muffins circulating this afternoon.

Peace,Dayna





















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From: [email protected] on behalf of Larissa Belcic

To: september17

Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: PR Blurb


Yes, there should be. I'll add that.

On Sep 20, 10:13 pm, [email protected] wrote:> That's beautiful. Should there be an evening GA on the schedule?>>>>>>>> On 09/20/11,Larissa Belcic<[email protected]>wrote:I wrote up this PR Blurb regarding Saturday aswell as the weekday> schedule (it appears here sans formatting). I think that what it is> really lacking is contact information--there needs to be an email

> address and phone number that people can get in touch with for any> questions. Anyone know what to put down?> Also I think an outreach letter and a press release need to be> concocted ASAP. There should be one open letter for individuals as> well as a more direct letter we can submit to organizations asking for> their support. Thoughts?> Political parties govern in the name of the 1% who control almost all> financial wealth, but almost all of us are the 99%.> We are gathering in a space in the heart of Wall Street to bring our> concerns to light. Join us this Saturday, September 23rd at 12PM at> Zuccotti Park in NYC for We Are the 99% Day.> All are welcome! Air your concerns, discuss your opinions, and join us> in making our presence in this nation known.

> You may also join us on weekdays at 9AM for a march to Wall Street for> the opening bell, at 1PM for General Assembly to discuss strategies> and issues, and at 3:30PM for a march to Wall Street for the closing> bell.> If you are frustrated with America’s financial climate, come and make> it known. We are the 99%, and so are you.> Facebook Status Post:> Political parties govern in the name of the 1% who control almost all> financial wealth, but almost all of us are the 99%.> We are gathering in a space in the heart of Wall Street to bring our> concerns to light. Join us this Saturday, September 23rd at 12PM at> Zuccotti Park in NYC for We Are the 99% Day.









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From: [email protected] on behalf of Will

To: september17

Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: WTC Workers Visit Liberty Square Today


I absolutely agree that we should have a huge presence at the Outrage

event for Troy Davis tomorrow and that people should know that it's usfrom the occupation who are there. We need to bring flyers and signsand show are solidarity with Troy Davis and against the racist deathpenalty and judicial system.

I don't see what this has to do this the thread topic of the WTCconstruction workers, but I'm really glad it's being discussed.

Will

On Sep 22, 1:35 am, Lauren <[email protected]> wrote:> Seconded, I barely got wind of it. I know the union that staged a> walkout earlier was the Cement League however.>

> On Sep 22, 1:08 am, Will <[email protected]> wrote:>>>>>>>> > So reports are that there was a massive presence of construction> > workers from the World Trade Center site who visited the occupation> > today and lots of people talked with them and gave them flyers. This> > is great, but I really hope that somebody felt it was important enough> > to ask them what union(s) they were a part of. I also hope someone

> > had the foresight to get pictures on social media and this story out> > the the media in general. The symbolic nature of this visit is huge,> > and I haven't seen anything in any media or even anyone's fb about> > it. Let's get this out there!>> > Will









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To: september17

Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: WTC Workers Visit Liberty Square Today


Great Lauren, Sorry I missed your comment before. Hopefully they'll

stop by again so we can talk to them more about this. Who haspictures from Wednesday?

On Sep 22, 1:35 am, Lauren <[email protected]> wrote:> Seconded, I barely got wind of it. I know the union that staged a> walkout earlier was the Cement League however.>> On Sep 22, 1:08 am, Will <[email protected]> wrote:>>>>>>

>> > So reports are that there was a massive presence of construction> > workers from the World Trade Center site who visited the occupation> > today and lots of people talked with them and gave them flyers. This> > is great, but I really hope that somebody felt it was important enough> > to ask them what union(s) they were a part of. I also hope someone> > had the foresight to get pictures on social media and this story out> > the the media in general. The symbolic nature of this visit is huge,> > and I haven't seen anything in any media or even anyone's fb about> > it. Let's get this out there!>> > Will









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Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] real delivery address


Hey everyone,

Can we get a real address that can take deliveries from UPS/Fedex/USPS/DHL? Needa place with someone who will be there to sign for things, if necessary.

This would make it a lot easier for the internet to send supplies...

Micah









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From: [email protected] on behalf of Conor Tomás Reed

To: no-budget-cuts-ny-discussion ; [email protected]; [email protected]; CUNY Movement; Adjunct Project

Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Sept 26th, 4pm: Demonstration at Baruch for Adjunct Health Insurance


Dear City University of New York and NYC-wide communities,

This Monday afternoon, people of conscience will gather at Baruch College to pressure the CUNY Board of Trustees to ensure that over 1700 adjuncts aren't stripped of our health coverage in mid-2012. TheProfessional Staff Congress has posted some helpful info on their site about it, including here and here.

Teachers, students, staff, and the public will also raise other grievances: $1500 in "rational" tuitionincreases, NYPD/CIA spying on CUNY Muslim student groups, disintegrating infrastructures, resourcedisparities across CUNY schools, excessive administration salaries. People will protest inside the BoTmeeting in the VC building, as well as outside at Lexington and 24th street.

The Adjunct Project welcomes Graduate Center folks to join a caravan leaving the GC lobby at 3pm towalk down to Baruch together. All others are encouraged to meet at Baruch by 3:30pm. Please contributeto re-envisioning CUNY and our city's priorities by taking action with us on Monday.

hearty regards,-Conor Tomás Reed

Adjunct Project co-coordinator, education & advocacy979 204 9253

---------- Forwarded message ----------From: Professional Staff Congress <[email protected]>

This Week In t he PSC

September 19, 2011

CCNY ChapterMeeting, Tue Sept20 12:00pm

Baruch CollegeHEO Meeting, Sept20, 12:30pm

BMCC Chaptermeeting, Sept 21,2:00pm

Delegate AssemblyMeeting, Sept 22,6:30pm

BCC ChapterMeeting, Sept 22,12pm

Labor Goes to theMovies, Sept 23,6:00pm

September 26th Demonstration for AdjunctHealth I nsurance

Next Monday, September 26, at 4:00 PM hundreds of your CUNY colleagueswill gather at the CUNY Board of Trustees meeting at Baruch College. Please

join us in attending the Board meeting and demonstrating outside of BaruchCollege (55 Lexington Ave. at 24th St.), where the meeting is held. Be there if you are an adjunct whose own health insurance is threatened. Be there if youwould be ashamed to work in a university that allowed a major part of itsworkforce to lose their health insurance. Stand up for your colleagues, for yoursense of what a university is, for yourself.

Also, we need your signature before the 26th on both the letter and petition insupport of maintaining adjunct health insurance. Do it today. Here’s what elseyou can do:

Contact Brian Graf to join the organizing effort to save adjunct healthcare;Tell us your story if you’re an adjunct who receives health insurance fromthe PSC-CUNY Welfare Fund;Share a statement of solidarity, if you’re a full-timer who thinks CUNY should fully fund health insurance for adjuncts.Use #AdjunctHI to follow and discuss the issue on Twitter










http://psc-cuny.org/latest-news/adjunct-healthcare-take-issue-926-bot-meeting

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Campaign for Adjunct HealthInsurance—Demonstration atCUNY BoardMeeting, Sept 26,4:00pm

Brooklyn ChapterMeeting, Sept 27,12:30pm

Visit the onlinecalendar for moredetails

The September issue of Clarion has a special section devoted to the AdjunctHealth Care campaign. Read the online version here.

Labor Goes to the M ovies Film Series StartsFriday

Now in its eleventh season, the Labor Goes to the Movies film series will focuson the theme of "Lessons" this year. This season's first film night features twoshort films with wildly divergent takes on education: Zero for Conduct (Vigo,1933) and Binta and the Great Idea (Javier Fesser, 2004). We’ll be screeningboth films this Friday evening in the Union Hall (61 Broadway, 16th Floor) from6:00-9:00 PM. Learn more about the film series and this week’s movies here.

Defending Pub lic Higher Education Conference —Save the Date and Spread the Word

The PSC and other groups are sponsoring a free, day-long conference at theCUNY Graduate Center on October 7. Join us for a day of collective thinkingabout the challenges facing public higher education, and help define strategiesthat will reverse the disturbing trend of disinvestment in higher education. Click for Information and a link to a downloadable flier.

Tell Congress to Pass the American Jobs Act

The PSC is partnering with our national affiliate, the American Federation of Teachers (AFT), to press Congress to pass President Obama’s American Jobs

Act. Passing the bill will save and create hundreds of thousands of well-paying jobs and grow our economy by making investments in our nation’s crumblinginfrastructure. It will also maintain support for critical public services, such aseducation and job training, and provide $235 million for community collegeinfrastructure needs in New York State. Please take a moment right now tosend the AFT letter to your congressional representatives.



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From: [email protected] on behalf of Alexandre Machado De Sant"Anna Carvalho


Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] To Adbusters, Occupywallstreet.org, and ALL others: Call for SimilarOccupations Across the Globe


Dear Friends,

This weekend we are expecting a surge in numbers at our beloved Liberty Square,and solidarity actions are taking place accross the United States and the world. Weare about to reach critical mass to make this a truly explosive global movement. Totip us towards that beautiful point-of-no-return, i suggest to all involved - either atthe internet front or ground front - to make a call for similar occupations in all citiesacross the globe. If the local occupied square cannot hold capacity due to an excessof people, please invite people to replicate the autonomous zone model on nearbysquares (something that Liberty Square will have to do soon!).

Disruption, Subversion, Insurrection, Revolution, Emancipation!

Keep it up!

Alê

-- Alexandre M.S. Carvalho, M.D., MPH2009 Reynolds Fellowmobile +1 914 563 4209home +1 914 633 0415www.nyu.edu/reynolds











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To: september17

Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] TODAY IS A DAY OF OUTREACH! FLYERS HERE


Our beautiful movement most grow. In order for that to happen as many

of us as possible need to speak with "the people" about what we areare doing.We should also listen to them about what they want to see changed inour Wall Street Government. Encourage them to bring those ideas tothe Liberty Square.

Had them out at Schools, squares, subways, in the streets, at cafes,and anywhere people go.........

Here is a link to flyers. Print them, distribute them, and lets get2,000 people in Liberty Square on Saturday!

http://minus.com/mY3Y8J58T

If you can print extra, please do. Share them at Liberty Square.











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From: [email protected] on behalf of Yoni Golijov


Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Video of Police brutality and arrests - watch and distribute!


Dear friends!

My friend just sent me this video: please distribute and post on the websitesoccupywallst.org (alrdy on nycga) spread the word and image!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYaA-34c-vI

--yOni













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To: september17

Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] WTC Workers Visit Liberty Square Today


So reports are that there was a massive presence of construction

workers from the World Trade Center site who visited the occupationtoday and lots of people talked with them and gave them flyers. Thisis great, but I really hope that somebody felt it was important enoughto ask them what union(s) they were a part of. I also hope someonehad the foresight to get pictures on social media and this story outthe the media in general. The symbolic nature of this visit is huge,and I haven't seen anything in any media or even anyone's fb aboutit. Let's get this out there!

Will









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From: [email protected] on behalf of Lucas Vazquez

To: september17

Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss]


Do we have a press release? Union representatives from SEIU have contacted meshowing interest in joining our movement. They asked for some general information

including a press release.

Lucas









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To: september17

Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss]


Awesome job today!Do we want hundreds if not thousands of others more to join our actions? I think

Yes.We need to invite them. Online and on paper,With a press release and with somenotice. This mornings actions clogged up the area, got good media and lookedgreat. The tactic of roving pickets forces wall street to shut itself down. We shouldrepeat them, and do other places as suggested, and With more people. We simplycan not do that if we take until 11pm the night before an action to decide on it. Wewill grow if we invite. Most people need a place and time, and notice.Can we invite people for tomorrow mornings bell? Or maybe evenWednesday, so wecan all spend tomorrow doing people to people outreach? Some notice will also helpwith online work as well.....









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Cc : Begonia Santa-Cecilia; Winter Siroco; Vicente Rubio; Angel Luis Lara

Subject: SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] #OccupyWallStreet stays alive by becoming #WeAreThe99%


unfortunately, the % doesnt work as a proper hashtag, what about a slight edit to

#wearethe99

On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 11:47 PM, Luis Moreno-Caballud<[email protected]> wrote:

Dear friends,

It looks like #OccupyWallStreet is in urgent need of a massive andtargeted outreach operation to stay alive. The key to the success of the

movement is to be inclusive. Right now the movement is toohomogeneous, due to the "activist" imaginary and language identified

with it (example: the word "occupy", the images of stereotypical activistsused by Adbusters, etc).

If we really want to start a massive movement like the ones in Egypt,

Iceland, Spain, Greece, etc, we should change those referents. If wedon't act quickly the movement will vanish, and it would have been just

another activist movement. I propose that we start today a fast andmassive outreach campaign with this idea: #WeAreThe99% .

This is the plan: we put all our energy and resources in outreaching forthe #WeAreThe99% Day which will happen next Saturday 23rd, at

our space in Zucotti/Liberty Park. We propose tomorrow at the assembly:everyone form groups and march right now to different spots in the city(squares, neighborhoods, universities, labor unions) with signs, fliers, and

a clear message:

"Political parties govern in the name of the 1% that controlalmost al l f inancial wealth. We are the 99% ."

"We have taken a space at the heart of Wall Street to start

changing this situation. Join us at Zucotti/ Liberty Park onSaturday September 23rd for the We Are The 99% Day. Stay

w ith us."

What do you think? We have a lot of attention in the internet and evenmainstream media, let's use it now before it's gone! Let's create a really

inclusive and massive movement, let's go beyond traditional identities,

let's become a real multitude!




















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Subject: SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] #OccupyWallStreet stays alive by becoming #WeAreThe99


yeah, agreed. perhaps it was a bit overreaching, the constitution bit.

i still stand behind luis's idea though, and I hope someone will beable to raise it at the GA tomorrow.

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 1:37 AM, Doug Singsen <[email protected]> wrote:> I don't know if that's what happened in Spain, but it seems a little> premature and grandiose to be drafting a constitution at this point, given> that there are only a few hundred people occupying a small park in a single> city. Rather than trying to create a new society on such a miniscule basis,> our time might be better spent finding ways to connect with the everyday,> practical concerns of people facing the loss of their jobs, health care,> housing, retirement, quality education for their children, etc. In order to> have any shot at creating a new society, we need a LOT more people on board> than we have now (either in Zucotti Park specifically or in the movement as> a whole), and raising demands that connect with peoples' daily lives is the

> best way to expand from a small, insular group of activists to a broad> movement - and that's the spirit that I understood Luis's proposal to be> made in.>> Doug>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 12:42 AM, NicolasMoselleAllen> <[email protected]> wrote:>>>> If I arrive in time tomorrow I will try to propose it at the General>> Assembly. When are they planning on holding the GA?>>

>> I also plan on making a proposal that I think would be compatible with>> the image "rebranding" proposal: that we attempt to reframe our>> communication with the world by drafting a Constitution, a set of >> common values that could represent us and the society that we as a>> movement are trying to model-forth, rather than proposing "Demands" as>> we've been calling them. It's my understanding that this is what>> happened in Spain, with considerable success.>>>> OK!>>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Luis Moreno-Caballud>> <[email protected]> wrote:>> > Yes, thanks! Let's make it #Wearethe99.>> > I'm in Philly working until Friday, would anyone propose this at the GA

>> > tomorrow?>> >>> > On Sep 19, 2011, at 11:59 PM, grimwomyn wrote:>> >>> > unfortunately, the % doesnt work as a proper hashtag, what about a>> > slight>> > edit to #wearethe99>> >>> > On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 11:47 PM, Luis Moreno-Caballud>> > <[email protected]> wrote:>> >>









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>> >> Dear friends,>> >> It looks like #OccupyWallStreet is in urgent need of a massive and>> >> targeted outreach operation to stay alive. The key to the success of >> >> the>> >> movement is to be inclusive. Right now the movement is too homogeneous,>> >> due>> >> to the "activist" imaginary and language identified with it (example:>> >> the

>> >> word "occupy", the images of stereotypical activists used by Adbusters,>> >> etc).>> >> If we really want to start a massive movement like the ones in Egypt,>> >> Iceland, Spain, Greece, etc, we should change those referents. If we>> >> don't>> >> act quickly the movement will vanish, and it would have been just>> >> another>> >> activist movement. I propose that we start today a fast and massive>> >> outreach>> >> campaign with this idea: #WeAreThe99%.>> >> This is the plan: we put all our energy and resources in outreaching>> >> for>> >> the #WeAreThe99% Day which will happen next Saturday 23rd, at our space>> >> in

>> >> Zucotti/Liberty Park. We propose tomorrow at the assembly: everyone>> >> form>> >> groups and march right now to different spots in the city (squares,>> >> neighborhoods, universities, labor unions) with signs, fliers, and a>> >> clear>> >> message:>> >> "Political parties govern in the name of the 1% that control almost all>> >> financial wealth. We are the 99%.">> >> "We have taken a space at the heart of Wall Street to start changing>> >> this>> >> situation. Join us at Zucotti/Liberty Park on Saturday September 23rd>> >> for>> >> the We Are The 99% Day. Stay with us."

>> >> What do you think? We have a lot of attention in the internet and even>> >> mainstream media, let's use it now before it's gone! Let's create a>> >> really>> >> inclusive and massive movement, let's go beyond traditional identities,>> >> let's become a real multitude!>> >>>> >>> >>> >>>



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If I arrive in time tomorrow I will try to propose it at the General

Assembly. When are they planning on holding the GA?

I also plan on making a proposal that I think would be compatible withthe image "rebranding" proposal: that we attempt to reframe ourcommunication with the world by drafting a Constitution, a set of common values that could represent us and the society that we as amovement are trying to model-forth, rather than proposing "Demands" aswe've been calling them. It's my understanding that this is whathappened in Spain, with considerable success.

OK!

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Luis Moreno-Caballud<[email protected]> wrote:

> Yes, thanks! Let's make it #Wearethe99.> I'm in Philly working until Friday, would anyone propose this at the GA > tomorrow?>> On Sep 19, 2011, at 11:59 PM, grimwomyn wrote:>> unfortunately, the % doesnt work as a proper hashtag, what about a slight> edit to #wearethe99>> On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 11:47 PM, Luis Moreno-Caballud> <[email protected]> wrote:>>>> Dear friends,

>> It looks like #OccupyWallStreet is in urgent need of a massive and>> targeted outreach operation to stay alive. The key to the success of the>> movement is to be inclusive. Right now the movement is too homogeneous, due>> to the "activist" imaginary and language identified with it (example: the>> word "occupy", the images of stereotypical activists used by Adbusters,>> etc).>> If we really want to start a massive movement like the ones in Egypt,>> Iceland, Spain, Greece, etc, we should change those referents. If we don't>> act quickly the movement will vanish, and it would have been just another>> activist movement. I propose that we start today a fast and massive outreach>> campaign with this idea: #WeAreThe99%.>> This is the plan: we put all our energy and resources in outreaching for>> the #WeAreThe99% Day which will happen next Saturday 23rd, at our space in>> Zucotti/Liberty Park. We propose tomorrow at the assembly: everyone form

>> groups and march right now to different spots in the city (squares,>> neighborhoods, universities, labor unions) with signs, fliers, and a clear>> message:>> "Political parties govern in the name of the 1% that control almost all>> financial wealth. We are the 99%.">> "We have taken a space at the heart of Wall Street to start changing this>> situation. Join us at Zucotti/Liberty Park on Saturday September 23rd for>> the We Are The 99% Day. Stay with us.">> What do you think? We have a lot of attention in the internet and even>> mainstream media, let's use it now before it's gone! Let's create a really>> inclusive and massive movement, let's go beyond traditional identities,









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>> let's become a real multitude!>>>>>



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I emailed Richard Wolff and someone, perhaps a secretary(?), wrote

back to me saying that he is unable to come to liberty plaza but hewill make an announcement of the Occupation at all of his speakingengagements. Given the initial receptiveness, would it be overlyaggressive to continue sending him messages, perhaps others as well,asking him to speak on the current economic conjuncture in the Plaza?He is a very captivating speaker, exactly what we would need.

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Jackie DiSalvo <[email protected]> wrote:> Yes- it works great as a rhetorical slogan, but unfortunately is not true.> The 1% works language since 1% have majority economic control, but part of > the 99% (Is it the top 10%?, the top managerial class and some of the petty> capitalists (smaller than the 1% owners) have common interests with the top> 1% and are too well compensated, often in stocks, i.e. ownership of the> means of production to ever be on our side. They have a different agenda;

> that’s who the Tea Party are. We do need a better class analysis to identify> who our real, potential allies are – mostly the working class and middle> class. We’re right about Wall St, the ruling class, but don’t speak enough> about the crucial position of the working class who ultimately have the> power to shut it all down. Let’s get a good radical economist to do a> workshop with us.>>>> ________________________________ >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On> Behalf Of Ryan David Acuff

> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 7:38 AM> To: [email protected]> Subject: Re: [september17discuss] #OccupyWallStreet stays alive by becoming> #WeAreThe99>>>> I don't fully get the 99% bit. 99% of what? Is the implication that the> people making $250,000 a year are somehow exploited by those who make> $350,000 a year? If that's the central message, I think it majorly lacks a> class analysis. It's certainly useful to give percentages to demonstrate> massive inequality, but it seems to also imply that the solution is to> redistribute the wealth, not change system that creates the inequalities in> the first place. I don't think you can tax away capitalism. I believe we

> need to democratize the economy. I think the 99% piece sounds inclusive,> but weak as THE central message. but if I'm missing something let me know.>> As for rewriting the constitution, perhaps the group could draft a> principles of unity that would be general enough and on still on target> enough to be adopted by the GA.>> Ryan>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 2:03 AM, NicolasMoselleAllen <[email protected]>> wrote:











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>> yeah, agreed. perhaps it was a bit overreaching, the constitution bit.> i still stand behind luis's idea though, and I hope someone will be> able to raise it at the GA tomorrow.>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 1:37 AM, Doug Singsen <[email protected]> wrote:>> I don't know if that's what happened in Spain, but it seems a little>> premature and grandiose to be drafting a constitution at this point, given

>> that there are only a few hundred people occupying a small park in a>> single>> city. Rather than trying to create a new society on such a miniscule>> basis,>> our time might be better spent finding ways to connect with the everyday,>> practical concerns of people facing the loss of their jobs, health care,>> housing, retirement, quality education for their children, etc. In order>> to>> have any shot at creating a new society, we need a LOT more people on>> board>> than we have now (either in Zucotti Park specifically or in the movement>> as>> a whole), and raising demands that connect with peoples' daily lives is>> the

>> best way to expand from a small, insular group of activists to a broad>> movement - and that's the spirit that I understood Luis's proposal to be>> made in.>>>> Doug>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 12:42 AM, NicolasMoselleAllen>> <[email protected]> wrote:>>>>>> If I arrive in time tomorrow I will try to propose it at the General>>> Assembly. When are they planning on holding the GA?>>>

>>> I also plan on making a proposal that I think would be compatible with>>> the image "rebranding" proposal: that we attempt to reframe our>>> communication with the world by drafting a Constitution, a set of >>> common values that could represent us and the society that we as a>>> movement are trying to model-forth, rather than proposing "Demands" as>>> we've been calling them. It's my understanding that this is what>>> happened in Spain, with considerable success.>>>>>> OK!>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Luis Moreno-Caballud>>> <[email protected]> wrote:>>> > Yes, thanks! Let's make it #Wearethe99.>>> > I'm in Philly working until Friday, would anyone propose this at the

>>> > GA >>> > tomorrow?>>> >>>> > On Sep 19, 2011, at 11:59 PM, grimwomyn wrote:>>> >>>> > unfortunately, the % doesnt work as a proper hashtag, what about a>>> > slight>>> > edit to #wearethe99>>> >>>> > On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 11:47 PM, Luis Moreno-Caballud>>> > <[email protected]> wrote:



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>>> >>>>> >> Dear friends,>>> >> It looks like #OccupyWallStreet is in urgent need of a massive and>>> >> targeted outreach operation to stay alive. The key to the success of >>> >> the>>> >> movement is to be inclusive. Right now the movement is too>>> >> homogeneous,>>> >> due

>>> >> to the "activist" imaginary and language identified with it (example:>>> >> the>>> >> word "occupy", the images of stereotypical activists used by>>> >> Adbusters,>>> >> etc).>>> >> If we really want to start a massive movement like the ones in Egypt,>>> >> Iceland, Spain, Greece, etc, we should change those referents. If we>>> >> don't>>> >> act quickly the movement will vanish, and it would have been just>>> >> another>>> >> activist movement. I propose that we start today a fast and massive>>> >> outreach>>> >> campaign with this idea: #WeAreThe99%.>>> >> This is the plan: we put all our energy and resources in outreaching

>>> >> for>>> >> the #WeAreThe99% Day which will happen next Saturday 23rd, at our>>> >> space>>> >> in>>> >> Zucotti/Liberty Park. We propose tomorrow at the assembly: everyone>>> >> form>>> >> groups and march right now to different spots in the city (squares,>>> >> neighborhoods, universities, labor unions) with signs, fliers, and a>>> >> clear>>> >> message:>>> >> "Political parties govern in the name of the 1% that control>>> >> almost all>>> >> financial wealth. We are the 99%."

>>> >> "We have taken a space at the heart of Wall Street to start changing>>> >> this>>> >> situation. Join us at Zucotti/Liberty Park on Saturday September 23rd>>> >> for>>> >> the We Are The 99% Day. Stay with us.">>> >> What do you think? We have a lot of attention in the internet and even>>> >> mainstream media, let's use it now before it's gone! Let's create a>>> >> really>>> >> inclusive and massive movement, let's go beyond traditional>>> >> identities,>>> >> let's become a real multitude!>>> >>>>> >>>> >

>>> >>>>>>>



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I love all of us radicals that have the balls to show up at this thing and demand change, but I have to agree with

Luis that a lot of that radical language is hurting our ultimate goal of attracting most of the 99% to join us. (I dolike the 99% message.) There is a fine line between getting attention and scaring people and we have to be very

careful how we tightwalk on it. We also have to be willing to achieve our goals in steps and not all at once. A

majority of Americans or even citizens of Earth are not ready for wholesale change. They want to see

improvements not massive experiments. I could be wrong, but this is how I read the situation.

Thanks, John McG

On 09/19/11, Luis Moreno-Caballud<[email protected]> wrote:

Dear friends,

It looks like #OccupyWallStreet is in urgent need of a massive and

targeted outreach operation to stay alive. The key to the success of themovement is to be inclusive. Right now the movement is too

homogeneous, due to the "activist" imaginary and language identified with

it (example: the word "occupy", the images of stereotypical activists used

by Adbusters, etc).

If we really want to start a massive movement like the ones in Egypt,

Iceland, Spain, Greece, etc, we should change those referents. If we don't

act quickly the movement will vanish, and it would have been just another

activist movement. I propose that we start today a fast and massive

outreach campaign with this idea: #WeAreThe99% .

This is the plan: we put all our energy and resources in outreaching for

the #WeAreThe99% Day which will happen next Saturday 23rd, at our

space in Zucotti/Liberty Park. We propose tomorrow at the assembly:

everyone form groups and march right now to different spots in the city

(squares, neighborhoods, universities, labor unions) with signs, fliers, and

a clear message:

"Pol i t i c a l par t ies govern in the name o f the 1% tha t c on t ro l

a lmost a l l f inanc ia l w ea l th . We are the 99%."

"We have t aken a space a t t he hear t o f Wa l l St ree t t o s ta r t

chang ing t h is s i tua t ion . Jo in us a t Zuco t t i /L iberty Park on

Saturday September 23rd for t he We Are The 99% Day. Stay

w i th us ."

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mainstream media, let's use it now before it's gone! Let's create a really

inclusive and massive movement, let's go beyond traditional identities, let's

become a real multitude!



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Yes! +2

nico

On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Yoni Golijov <[email protected]> wrote:> I think that is great!>> Yoni>> On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 11:47 PM, Luis Moreno-Caballud> <[email protected]> wrote:>>>> Dear friends,>> It looks like #OccupyWallStreet is in urgent need of a massive and>> targeted outreach operation to stay alive. The key to the success of the

>> movement is to be inclusive. Right now the movement is too homogeneous, due>> to the "activist" imaginary and language identified with it (example: the>> word "occupy", the images of stereotypical activists used by Adbusters,>> etc).>> If we really want to start a massive movement like the ones in Egypt,>> Iceland, Spain, Greece, etc, we should change those referents. If we don't>> act quickly the movement will vanish, and it would have been just another>> activist movement. I propose that we start today a fast and massive outreach>> campaign with this idea: #WeAreThe99%.>> This is the plan: we put all our energy and resources in outreaching for>> the #WeAreThe99% Day which will happen next Saturday 23rd, at our space in>> Zucotti/Liberty Park. We propose tomorrow at the assembly: everyone form>> groups and march right now to different spots in the city (squares,

>> neighborhoods, universities, labor unions) with signs, fliers, and a clear>> message:>> "Political parties govern in the name of the 1% that control almost all>> financial wealth. We are the 99%.">> "We have taken a space at the heart of Wall Street to start changing this>> situation. Join us at Zucotti/Liberty Park on Saturday September 23rd for>> the We Are The 99% Day. Stay with us.">> What do you think? We have a lot of attention in the internet and even>> mainstream media, let's use it now before it's gone! Let's create a really>> inclusive and massive movement, let's go beyond traditional identities,>> let's become a real multitude!>>>>

>> --> yOni>









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Subject: SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] $6000?


yes, word to all shelters to come down for a free meal would be awesome.

But we'd need an off site kitchen crew (with experience) to cook it up.

Solidarity,~ FluxRostrum

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Quoting grimwomyn <[email protected]>:

> Completely agreed, let's keep it respectful.> On Sep 22, 2011 7:19 AM, "Matthew Presto" <[email protected]>wrote:>> I don't have any opinions about the funding, but... why do you think >> it's perfectly fine to use "retard" as an insult? I would hope that>> no one would put up with any racist, sexist, or homophobic language>> on this listserv or at the General Assembly; whether you like it or>> not, using the word "retard" as a pejorative perpetuates ableism.>>>> Matt

>>>> On Sep 22, 2011, at 5:16 AM, Alexa D. O'Brien wrote:>>>>> Jem,>>>>>> Don't be a retard. The food fund has 15,000 in it. Spare us.>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 8:48 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:>>> Are flyers really more important than feeding people?>>>>>>>>> On 09/20/11, Alexa D. O'Brien<[email protected]> wrote:

>>> Donate to the wall street occupation [email protected] 347>>> 640 0925 Paging Publius. #occupywallstreet has FLYER FUND.>>> DONATEhttp://bit.ly/oo538N>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 7:47 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:>>> I recently posted a message suggesting that we try to feed the>>> hungry, but no one seems to have commented on it. If we have>>> $6000, I would like to suggest the idea one more time. I feel it>>> would amount tom putting our money where our mouth is.>>>






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>>>>>> On 09/20/11, Doug Singsen<[email protected]> wrote:>>> Why not use the $6000 in food money for flyers? I believe Justin>>> Wedes has access to the account.>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Jon Good>>> <[email protected]> wrote:

>>> I was only able to crank out 100, which I left on the table by the>>> front of the GA. I'll try and print more once my boss has gone>>> home. Nobody else in my office is sympathetic to the occupation so>>> I've got to be sneaky.>>>>>> Rock on,>>>>>> Jon>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 2:46 PM, MAd Hatter>>> <[email protected]> wrote:>>> Who can print flyers? We need thousands.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -->>> [email protected]>>> www.alexaobrien.com>>>>>>>>>>>> --

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Subject: SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] A word about outreach


Thanks Willie. If anyone has the time here's a film about propaganda:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXg70qJQ6O0&feature=player_embedded#!

Also I recommend this Canadian blogger, Cory Morningstar, who writes powerfulstuff about confronting the money machine that oppresses people...and howmovements are co-opted by "obedience":

http://theartofannihilation.com/2011/09/19/tar-sands-action-the-paralysis-of-a-movement-part-ii/

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Willie Osterweil <[email protected]> wrote:Oppressive violence is inherent to the system. Yes, making the protests seemmore dangerous or more violent than they are is to be avoided, but the fact of the

matter is, the poor and people of color face violence on a very regular basis-in theform of stop and frisks, meritless arrests, and general racist/classist policebrutality. The GA is made of the 99%, but it is also made predominantly of whiteyoung people. I am one myself. The poor and minority populations of the UnitedStates (and the rest of the world) face almost daily forms of violence: not just fromthe police, but also from economic oppression, homelessness, judicial bias, andprofound psychological exclusion. These people can relate to the violence that islevied against protesters, and videos of police repression, rather than 'riot porn'pointed at radicals, are as much for the people who face this sort of institutionalized violence every day of their lives.

Part of the function of protest is, in fact, to reveal the inherent violence of state

institutions- that when things get bad, 'democracy' is maintained at the end of apoliceman's baton, not the bottom of a ballot box. Do not be afraid to publicizeand discuss police violence against protesters. Overemphasizing it would be silly,because of course the violence faced so far by protesters pales in comparison tothat faced by most of the downtrodden in our society (think of Troy Davis).

I have attached a documentary here, which I think is crucial watching, that gives adifferent perspective on the London Riots- that gives the context and history of police repression in Totenham and other Black North London neighborhoods, howpolice incited the riots by beating a teenage girl, how they then ignored andallowed the violence to get out of hand, how the people in the streets practicedpolitical consciousness in their actions, and how all of this has been manipulated

by the mainstream media.

Being angry about their lack of coverage is a first step, but we must recognizehow media narratives, not events on the ground, made the London Riots (and allother violent actions by the people) appear completely chaotic and a-political. I donot mean to advocate rioting, only to point out that the media alwaysmisrepresents violence, and that the only way to overcome state violence is byconfronting it.

Solidarity,






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Willie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Faysa6h0lR8

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Harrison Schultz <[email protected]>wrote:Micah,

Please pardon the tone of my criticism, I'll do my best to keep it constructiveand respectful now that I know that my point has been heard and is beingdiscussed... which I appreciate. And please don't get me wrong Micah, I've beenreading this magazine since I was a kid in high school, I've learned a lot fromyour publication and I have a lot of respect for Adbusters, its a big part of whatinspired me to work in advertising despite the fact that I've always felt that it'sevil due to my radical beliefs.

Moreover I personally love the "scarier" stuff, such the rioters in gas masksbehind the Bull and Ballerina, and the hooded masked rock thrower above the"Dreaming of Democracy" two page spread near the end of the latest issue #97.The startling photo of a landless indigenous peasant with her naked little girl

getting shoved over by police with shields and clubs was moving as well, but in adifferent way since it shows the violence being perpetrated by the authorities asopposed to protesters. It gets me fired up and makes me want to work,however it's been occurring to me more and more that it turns off non-radicals.My professional opinion is that images which could be perceived as violent won't

make people who would rather ignore social injustice want show up to LibertyPlaza. Grim's report on the responses to that article on occupywallst.orgconfirmed that for me...

The scary arrest video's in question was posted on September 21st around 3pm. occupywallst.org had a record high 70,246 visits that day, the previous highwas 56,356 on the 17th of September - which is good news, so I think it's fair toconclude that the violent imagery has some utility. However I also noticed thatthe site's "bounce rate" (people clicking and bouncing immediately off thelanding page) went up a bit to 81.56%, the average amount of time spent onthe site for that day went down a bit 1:38. The bounce rate for the day beforewas at 76.79% with an average of 2:00 minutes spent on the site. The averagebounce rate for the month has been at 75.19% None of these changes from the20th to the 21st are statistically significant however the bounce rate on this site,which has always been pretty high at about 75%, still suggests to me that the

radical left of this country might be overdue for a re-brand.

I'm still interested in knowing what you thought of rad/left's suggestion of aRenaissance on Wall Street and I'm still interested in knowing if there's any wayI can use any of the skillz I've acquired from the adversary to assist you andyour staff.

At your disposal and in solidarity,

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On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Micah White <[email protected]>wrote:

Harrison, I don't understand: there is no "riot porn" on Adbusters, and thescary video that grimwomyn is talking about is on the frontpage of your site:occupywallst.org Email me off list if you have any comments about anything on adbusters.org --however, let's be respectful of the different perspectives that each of us isbringing to this occupation. Micah

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Harrison Schultz <[email protected]>wrote:

I hope we can get this to Micah White and the AdBusters staff's attention, Iwrote them a really scathing email about all this back in the quite old daysof Saturday GA bickering sessions, maybe now he'll take this more seriously,

Rad/left through out the phrase the "Renaissance of Wall Street" which Ithink sums this up. I think this is the right direction for ourdemand/message to move in.

H.

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 7:22 AM, grimwomyn <[email protected]>wrote:

Just seconding the thought about watching out for "riot porn." I wrote to a journalist from WIRED on Twitter inviting him to spend the night in thepark and his response is as follows:

"@grimwomyn The second post down makes that seem pretty scary. I

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From: [email protected] on behalf of Willie Osterweil


Subject: SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] A word about outreach


Oppressive violence is inherent to the system. Yes, making the protests seem moredangerous or more violent than they are is to be avoided, but the fact of the matter

is, the poor and people of color face violence on a very regular basis-in the form of stop and frisks, meritless arrests, and general racist/classist police brutality. The GA is made of the 99%, but it is also made predominantly of white young people. I amone myself. The poor and minority populations of the United States (and the rest of the world) face almost daily forms of violence: not just from the police, but also fromeconomic oppression, homelessness, judicial bias, and profound psychologicalexclusion. These people can relate to the violence that is levied against protesters,and videos of police repression, rather than 'riot porn' pointed at radicals, are asmuch for the people who face this sort of institutionalized violence every day of theirlives.

Part of the function of protest is, in fact, to reveal the inherent violence of state

institutions- that when things get bad, 'democracy' is maintained at the end of apoliceman's baton, not the bottom of a ballot box. Do not be afraid to publicize anddiscuss police violence against protesters. Overemphasizing it would be silly, becauseof course the violence faced so far by protesters pales in comparison to that facedby most of the downtrodden in our society (think of Troy Davis).

I have attached a documentary here, which I think is crucial watching, that gives adifferent perspective on the London Riots- that gives the context and history of police repression in Totenham and other Black North London neighborhoods, howpolice incited the riots by beating a teenage girl, how they then ignored and allowedthe violence to get out of hand, how the people in the streets practiced politicalconsciousness in their actions, and how all of this has been manipulated by the

mainstream media.

Being angry about their lack of coverage is a first step, but we must recognize howmedia narratives, not events on the ground, made the London Riots (and all otherviolent actions by the people) appear completely chaotic and a-political. I do notmean to advocate rioting, only to point out that the media always misrepresentsviolence, and that the only way to overcome state violence is by confronting it.

Solidarity,Willie


On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Harrison Schultz <[email protected]> wrote:Micah,

Please pardon the tone of my criticism, I'll do my best to keep it constructive andrespectful now that I know that my point has been heard and is being discussed...which I appreciate. And please don't get me wrong Micah, I've been reading thismagazine since I was a kid in high school, I've learned a lot from your publication













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and I have a lot of respect for Adbusters, its a big part of what inspired me towork in advertising despite the fact that I've always felt that it's evil due to myradical beliefs.

Moreover I personally love the "scarier" stuff, such the rioters in gas masks behindthe Bull and Ballerina, and the hooded masked rock thrower above the "Dreamingof Democracy" two page spread near the end of the latest issue #97. The

startling photo of a landless indigenous peasant with her naked little girl gettingshoved over by police with shields and clubs was moving as well, but in a differentway since it shows the violence being perpetrated by the authorities as opposed toprotesters. It gets me fired up and makes me want to work, however it'sbeen occurring to me more and more that it turns off non-radicals. Myprofessional opinion is that images which could be perceived as violent won't makepeople who would rather ignore social injustice want show up to Liberty Plaza.Grim's report on the responses to that article on occupywallst.org confirmed thatfor me...

The scary arrest video's in question was posted on September 21st around 3pm. occupywallst.org had a record high 70,246 visits that day, the previous high was

56,356 on the 17th of September - which is good news, so I think it's fair toconclude that the violent imagery has some utility. However I also noticed thatthe site's "bounce rate" (people clicking and bouncing immediately off the landingpage) went up a bit to 81.56%, the average amount of time spent on the site forthat day went down a bit 1:38. The bounce rate for the day before was at76.79% with an average of 2:00 minutes spent on the site. The average bouncerate for the month has been at 75.19% None of these changes from the 20th tothe 21st are statistically significant however the bounce rate on this site, whichhas always been pretty high at about 75%, still suggests to me that the radical leftof this country might be overdue for a re-brand.

I'm still interested in knowing what you thought of rad/left's suggestion of a

Renaissance on Wall Street and I'm still interested in knowing if there's any way Ican use any of the skillz I've acquired from the adversary to assist you and yourstaff.

At your disposal and in solidarity,

Harrison Tesoura Schultz

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Micah White <[email protected]>wrote:

Harrison, I don't understand: there is no "riot porn" on Adbusters, and the scaryvideo that grimwomyn is talking about is on the frontpage of your site:occupywallst.org Email me off list if you have any comments about anything on adbusters.org --













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however, let's be respectful of the different perspectives that each of us isbringing to this occupation. Micah

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Harrison Schultz <[email protected]>wrote:

I hope we can get this to Micah White and the AdBusters staff's attention, Iwrote them a really scathing email about all this back in the quite old days of Saturday GA bickering sessions, maybe now he'll take this more seriously,

Rad/left through out the phrase the "Renaissance of Wall Street" which I think sums this up. I think this is the right direction for our demand/message tomove in.

H.

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 7:22 AM, grimwomyn <[email protected]>wrote:

Just seconding the thought about watching out for "riot porn." I wrote to a journalist from WIRED on Twitter inviting him to spend the night in the park and his response is as follows:

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Subject: SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Carpool to #OccupyWallStreet facebook page


Yup been promoting it on twitter and witnessing the amazing growth of its use. :)

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 2:07 AM, J Wedes < [email protected]> wrote:anybody else notice this?


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Subject: SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Carpool to #OccupyWallStreet facebook page


Yes. Promotimg it on our Facebook page as well.( we are over 7,000 likes now)It looks like people are coming from most states!

Also, 2 buses from Wisconsin are on the way!

On Thursday, September 22, 2011, grimwomyn <[email protected]> wrote:> Yup been promoting it on twitter and witnessing the amazing growth of its use. :)>> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 2:07 AM, J Wedes < [email protected]> wrote:>>>> anybody else notice this?>>>> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Carpool-to-Occupy-

Wallstreet/222614057794752?sk=wall <https://www.facebook.com/pages/Carpool-to-Occupy-Wallstreet/222614057794752?sk=wall >>>>>>> -justin>>





















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Subject: SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Does everyone know about this "counter protest?"


Yeah the open container law alone will get him scooped up. Did you read the

comments? Hilarious even gawker readers think he sucks.

On Sep 23, 2011 9:55 AM, "gail zawacki" <[email protected]> wrote:> Presumably they will be arrested for drinking on the street.>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 9:41 AM, J.A. Myerson< [email protected]>wrote:>>> Snobby Illiterati to Protest Wall St. ‘Hippies’ With Champagne Toast>>>>>> http://gawker.com/5843209/snobby-illiteraterati-to-protest-wall-st-hippies-with-

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From: [email protected] on behalf of Matthew Presto






Yeah the open container law alone will get him scooped up. Did you readthe comments? Hilarious even gawker readers think he sucks.

On Sep 23, 2011 9:55 AM, "gail zawacki" <[email protected]> wrote:> Presumably they will be arrested for drinking on the street.>

> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 9:41 AM, J.A. Myerson< [email protected]>wrote:>>> Snobby Illiterati to Protest Wall St. ‘Hippies’ With Champagne Toast>>>>>> http://gawker.com/5843209/snobby-illiteraterati-to-protest-wall-st-hippies-with-champagne-toast>>>> -->> J.A. Myerson>> http://www.jamyerson.com

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Let's hope that the open container arrests go smoothly-- I just rsvpd andencouraged them to bring as much champagne as possible,

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Yeah the open container law alone will get him scooped up. Did you

read the comments? Hilarious even gawker readers think he sucks.

On Sep 23, 2011 9:55 AM, "gail zawacki" <[email protected]>wrote:> Presumably they will be arrested for drinking on the street.>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 9:41 AM, J.A. Myerson< [email protected]>wrote:>>> Snobby Illiterati to Protest Wall St. ‘Hippies’ With Champagne Toast>>>>

>> http://gawker.com/5843209/snobby-illiteraterati-to-protest-wall-st-hippies-with-champagne-toast>>>> -->> J.A. Myerson>> http://www.jamyerson.com>> 347.688.0241>>>>

























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Yeah we wouldn't want those handcuffs to be uncomfortable.

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:10 AM, grimwomyn <[email protected]> wrote:Let's hope that the open container arrests go smoothly-- I just rsvpd andencouraged them to bring as much champagne as possible,

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Matthew Presto <[email protected]>wrote:



Yeah the open container law alone will get him scooped up. Did youread the comments? Hilarious even gawker readers think he sucks.

On Sep 23, 2011 9:55 AM, "gail zawacki" <[email protected]>wrote:> Presumably they will be arrested for drinking on the street.>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 9:41 AM, J.A. Myerson< [email protected]>wrote:

>>> Snobby Illiterati to Protest Wall St. ‘Hippies’ With ChampagneToast>>>>>> http://gawker.com/5843209/snobby-illiteraterati-to-protest-wall-st-hippies-with-champagne-toast>>>> -->> J.A. Myerson>> http://www.jamyerson.com>> 347.688.0241

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very possible that its creative street theatre. in any case, i'm tweeting it!!!

-j

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:14 AM, grimwomyn <[email protected]> wrote:uberlike :)


On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:10 AM, grimwomyn <[email protected]>wrote:

Let's hope that the open container arrests go smoothly-- I just rsvpd andencouraged them to bring as much champagne as possible,




Yeah the open container law alone will get him scooped up. Didyou read the comments? Hilarious even gawker readers think hesucks.

On Sep 23, 2011 9:55 AM, "gail zawacki"<[email protected]> wrote:> Presumably they will be arrested for drinking on the street.>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 9:41 AM, J.A. Myerson< [email protected]>wrote:

>>> Snobby Illiterati to Protest Wall St. ‘Hippies’ With ChampagneToast>>>>>> http://gawker.com/5843209/snobby-illiteraterati-to-protest-wall-st-hippies-with-champagne-toast>>>> -->> J.A. Myerson





























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From: [email protected] on behalf of Jon Good




Please, please take pictures of these folks and the (enraging but very likelyoutcome) of cops standing idly by while they violate public drinking laws.

This could be a powerful "let them eat cake" moment

-Jon

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:25 AM, J Wedes < [email protected]> wrote:very possible that its creative street theatre. in any case, i'm tweeting it!!!

-j

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:14 AM, grimwomyn <[email protected]> wrote:uberlike :)


On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:10 AM, grimwomyn <[email protected]>wrote:

Let's hope that the open container arrests go smoothly-- I just rsvpd and

encouraged them to bring as much champagne as possible,




Yeah the open container law alone will get him scooped up. Didyou read the comments? Hilarious even gawker readers think he sucks.

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< [email protected]>wrote:>>> Snobby Illiterati to Protest Wall St. ‘Hippies’ WithChampagne Toast>>>>>> http://gawker.com/5843209/snobby-illiteraterati-to-protest-

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Presumably they will be arrested for drinking on the street.

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 9:41 AM, J.A. Myerson < [email protected]> wrote:

Snobby Illiterati to Pro test W all St.‘Hippies’ W ith Cham pagne Toast


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Subject: SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Five demands and banks


I loved the chant at Copenhagen - System Change not Climate Change.

Growth is not sustainable on a finite earth. We need to find new measures of quality of lifeif we are going to survive.

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:22 AM, grimwomyn <[email protected]> wrote: Yeah, I don't know that we even need to get too specific on the demands as the OWSeffort has started people from all over the country talking about corporate controlin their lives, and they are starting to wake up and recognize how it isinherently injurious. If we are truly here for the people, I think that informing on all thereasons corporate influence is damaging to society is a great start -- and it is notnecessarily up to us to frame what the answers should be, we do have elected officials,we just need to shout and scream until they start examining options that will really helpus.

The lowering of interest rates by the Fed is useless to the rest of us. It is not systemic,what we really need to be pushing is the language of systemic change, what is beingoffered presently is business as usual to help the usual. I'm not sure we would even knowwhat real change looks like... so reaching out to visionaries like Bernie Sanders and otherswill help that conversation along.

The one demand? Try something like: ending corporate control, leave it open, notspecific, so it can be debated by all.

IMHO of course-- happy rainy thursday

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 11:30 AM, gail zawacki <[email protected]> wrote:Bravo Snafu for this:



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Just some thoughts

Peace, Lisa

SEE BELOW

1: draft old flier




• Home ow ners: through mortgages and loans, refusing to negotiate onforeclosures, redlining in communities, leaving communities vacant and blithe, refusing

to reduce principle, dealing with homes worth less now then is owed aka “underwater”


• Military Personal:. More than 20,000 veterans, reservists and active-duty troops

lost the homes to foreclosure in 2010, the highest number since 2003. JPMorgan

Chase illegally overcharged 4,000 active service members for their mortgagesimproperly foreclosing on a number of them.




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• Poor P eople: JP provides the debit cards for 43 million Americans on foodstamps and gets a cut for each use

• Bank W orkers: opposing the right to a union

• Small B usinesses: Charging high fees for credit card use.




• Farmers

• War – JP invests in munitions http://www.banktrack.org/show/bankprofi les/jpmorgan_chase

JPMORGAN CHASE

Federal taxpayer bailout funds received:[1] $100.7 billion[i]Profits for the years 1996-2010: $153.5 billion[ii]








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FORECLOSURE CRISIS

• Foreclosure Leader. As of June 2010, JPMorgan Chase had $19.5 billion worth of foreclosed homes on its books—more than any other bank in the country. Another$54.5 billion of mortgages that the bank services for other lenders was also inforeclosure.[xvi]

• Foreclosure Fraud. JPMorgan Chase employees admitted to signing 18,000foreclosure documents per month without reviewing the information in each file toensure that the bank had a legal right to proceed with foreclosure.[xvii] The bank wasforced to stop foreclosures in 41 states as a result of the robo-signing scandal,[xviii]which also led Attorneys General in all 50 states to launch investigations intoforeclosure fraud.

• Subprime Lending. JPMorgan Chase had a hand in the worst of the subprimelending excesses, providing financing to the nation’s two largest subprime lenders,Countrywide and Ameriquest, which allowed them to originate subprime loans.JPMorgan Chase also owned a major subprime lender and has acquired two banks thathad large subprime operations. Together, these firms issued over $295.3 billion insubprime loans from 2005-2007.[xix]

• Loan Modifications. Despite large incentives from taxpayers, as of January 2011,JPMorgan Chase had given permanent mortgage modifications to only 42% of its

homeowners who are still eligible for the Obama Administration’s Home AffordableModification Program (HAMP). The bank had rejected 354,822 families from HAMP,almost as many as Bank of America (193,231) and Wells Fargo (172,278)combined.[xx]

• Exploiting Mil itary Members. JPMorgan Chase overcharged 4,500 militarymembers on their mortgages and improperly foreclosed on 18 of them. Once the issuecame under Congressional scrutiny, the bank announced it would take steps to correctthe problems.[xxi]

• Predatory Lending. From 2006 through 2009, JPMorgan Chase (and mortgage



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lenders it has since acquired) was more than twice as likely to put African-Americanand Latino borrowers into higher-cost, subprime loans than white borrowers.Furthermore, while mortgage lending to white borrowers only dropped 11% between2006 and 2009, it dropped 51% for African-American borrowers and 63% forLatinos.[xxii]


• Interest rate swaps. JPMorgan Chase had to pay a $722 million fine to settlecharges that it illegally paid off officials in Jefferson County, Alabama to secure interestrate swap deals that drove the county to the brink of bankruptcy. [xxiii] Across thecountry, the bank is gouging state and local governments for more than $200 million ayear on swap deals.[xxiv] JPMorgan Chase sold governments these deals as a way tosave money, but instead they have become a goldmine for the bank following thebailout, which is able to rake in millions at taxpayer expense.

• Letters of credit. JPMorgan Chase is squeezing state and local governments bymaking it tougher for them to renew letters of credit, a form of bond insurance thatmany cities and states need to keep bond interest rates from spiking up. [xxv]


• Auction-rate securities. After promoting auction-rate securities to local and stategovernment borrowers as a low-risk, low-cost source of financing, JPMorgan Chase andother banks pulled their support for the market in early 2008, causing auctions to failand leading to interest rates as high as 20% for government borrowers. Then thebanks charged local and state governments at least $1 billion in fees to convert theirauction-rate bonds to safer forms of debt, “enriching JPMorgan Chase & Co., GoldmanSachs Group Inc. and the rest of Wall Street that let the market fall apart,” accordingto Bloomberg.[xxvii]

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• Unemployment debit cards. Several states use JPMorgan Chase debit cards topay out unemployment and/or TANF benefits. The bank takes advantage of Americanswho have fallen on hard times by skimming fees off of their accounts. For example, inMichigan benefit recipients have to pay $4 if they go to a bank teller to withdrawmoney from their accounts more than once per pay period or $1 if they check their

balance more than once per period.[xxix]

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of DougSingsenSent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 7:23 PMTo: [email protected]: Re: [september17discuss] Five demands from the NYCGA: how to link the struggle fordemocracy to the struggle for social and economic justice


Doug S


Hi all,

I apologize for being off-list and off-the-streets for a few

days, but I was lucky enough to become a father on September17!


Further, this refusal of having demands has nothing to do withthe current movements in the Middle East, Spain and Greece all



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of which have clear and loud demands. In the case of Arabcountries and Middle Eastern autocracies the demand cannot bebut one (remove the dictator). In Greece and Spain thesituation is more complex but the movements there have beenable to develop specific analyses and requests. In particularthe Joint Economics Working Group of Syntagma Square and Puertadel Sol have drafted a document (http://bit.ly/npCWkg) thatlists a specific set of demands, such as the request ofnationalizing the banks, withdrawing the EU/IMF Memorandum

imposed on Greece, make the accounting records transparent, andso forth.

As I have previously suggested, the three simple demands thatthe NYCGA should have raised in the call to Occupy Wall Streetshould have been:






moneythatwasheldincommercialbanksownedorcreatedbytheinvestmentfirms."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass–Steagall_Act

2) Immediate introduction of a Tobin Tax or Robin Hood Tax on allfinancial transactions both at a national and international level.On a national level, it would be sufficient for Congress to passit. On an international level, the IMF could subordinate loans tocountries in debt to the introduction of a Tobin Tax instead ofrequiring massive privatizations as it ordinarily does through thenotorious structural adjustment programs. In Europe, Angela Merkeland Nicholas Sarkozy have officialized their support to theintroduction of such tax in the EU about three weeks ago. Last Juneover 1,000 economist submitted a letter by 1,000 economists to theG20 last April that explains why the idea of a global Robin Hood

Tax has “come of age.”(http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/apr/13/robin-hood-tax-economists-letter) Robinhoodtax.org, a web site run by a BritishNGO that explains in very simple terms how it works and how muchrevenue it could generate. The NGO also has a Facebook page.

3) Raise taxes on qualified dividends and long-term capital gainsby pairing the long-term capital gains tax rate (which applies tofinancial assets held for more than a year) to the ordinary incometax rates. At the moment, thanks to the Tax Reconciliation Actsigned by Bush into law in 2006 and extended by the Obamaadministration to 2012 and beyond, capital gains cannot be taxedmore than 20% whereas income tax is taxed up to 35%. This meansthat if your wage falls for example in the $35,000-83,000 bracketyour income tax is 25% whereas if you make 1, 10, or 100 million

dollars on the stock market your pay 20% only. Even Warren Buffettsays that this system is openly unjust and that the currenttaxation system is profoundly unbalanced and skewed towardsfinancial profit. (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/15/opinion/stop-coddling-the-super-rich.html)
















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Two other critical points that should be discussed in the GAare the public funding of political campaigns and the two-partysystem. A paramount political objective should be to getcorporations to stop funding political candidates. You cannothave real democracy with the current system of fundraising. Atruly democratic system would give each citizen a tax bonus ofthe SAME AMOUNT and enable each one of us to decide how toallocate such money. A truly democratic society should also not

rely on forms of political representation based on amajoritarian (first-past-the-post) electoral system. If we arethe 99% of the country, then we ought to be able to convincethe rest of the nation that the 99% counts in fact nothing. Andcorporate funding and the two-party system should be the twomain targets of a campaign for real democracy.

To sum up, the question of the redistribution of wealth anddemocratic control over the financial system cannot bedisconnected from the question of political representation.Organizing a movement that fights "against representativepolitics" does not mean in my opinion to fight against *any*form of representation, but certainly against the currentsystem of representation. We are over 6 billions on thisplanet. Thinking that each individual should have the right todecide on every issue in every part of the world at all timesmay sound fascinating but it is simply unrealistic andunrealizable. Whether we like it or not, we constantly delegateto others the understanding of issues and execution of tasks wesimply do not have the time to understand and care about. (Theworldwide professionalization of national armies and theadvanced specialization of knowledge in scientific and academicresearch are just two notable cases in point).

Thus the question is not how to abolish authority andrepresentation per se but how to produce forms ofrepresentation that are truly representative, renewable andnon-ossified. The NYCGA could be such a body, once we livebehind the rather childish notion that demands define us and by

defining us trap us in some blind alley from which we'll beunable to move forward.

Cheers,Snafu


[2] 25th percentile is $9.98 per hour and 75th percentile is $11.55 per hour. $10.77 per hour is average of the two.

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[x] Capital IQ.

[xi] Capital IQ.

[xii]http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703440004575548403873382036.html?KEYWORDS=%22home+loans+in+foreclosure%22




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Yeah, I don't know that we even need to get too specific on the demands as the OWSeffort has started people from all over the country talking about corporate control

in their lives, and they are starting to wake up and recognize how it isinherently injurious. If we are truly here for the people, I think that informing on all thereasons corporate influence is damaging to society is a great start -- and it is notnecessarily up to us to frame what the answers should be, we do have elected officials,we just need to shout and scream until they start examining options that will really helpus.

The lowering of interest rates by the Fed is useless to the rest of us. It is not systemic,what we really need to be pushing is the language of systemic change, what is beingoffered presently is business as usual to help the usual. I'm not sure we would even knowwhat real change looks like... so reaching out to visionaries like Bernie Sanders and otherswill help that conversation along.






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Just some thoughts

Peace, Lisa

SEE BELOW

1: draft old flier



JP M ORGAN CHASE BANK AFFECTS:

• Home owners: through mortgages and loans, refusing to negotiate onforeclosures, redlining in communities, leaving communities vacant and blithe, refusingto reduce principle, dealing with homes worth less now then is owed aka “underwater”


• Military P ersonal:. More than 20,000 veterans, reservists and active-duty troops






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• Poor People: JP provides the debit cards for 43 million Americans on foodstamps and gets a cut for each use

• Bank Workers: opposing the right to a union





• Farmers

• War – JP invests in munitions http:/ / ww w.banktrack.org/show/ bankprof iles/ jpmorgan_chase

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FORECLOSURE CRISIS


• Foreclosure Fraud. JPMorgan Chase employees admitted to signing 18,000foreclosure documents per month without reviewing the information in each file toensure that the bank had a legal right to proceed with foreclosure. [xvii] The bank wasforced to stop foreclosures in 41 states as a result of the robo-signing scandal,[xviii]which also led Attorneys General in all 50 states to launch investigations intoforeclosure fraud.


• Loan Modifications. Despite large incentives from taxpayers, as of January 2011,JPMorgan Chase had given permanent mortgage modifications to only 42% of itshomeowners who are still eligible for the Obama Administration’s Home AffordableModification Program (HAMP). The bank had rejected 354,822 families from HAMP,almost as many as Bank of America (193,231) and Wells Fargo (172,278)

combined.[xx]

• Exploiting Military Members. JPMorgan Chase overcharged 4,500 militarymembers on their mortgages and improperly foreclosed on 18 of them. Once the issuecame under Congressional scrutiny, the bank announced it would take steps to correctthe problems.[xxi]

• Predatory Lending. From 2006 through 2009, JPMorgan Chase (and mortgagelenders it has since acquired) was more than twice as likely to put African-Americanand Latino borrowers into higher-cost, subprime loans than white borrowers.Furthermore, while mortgage lending to white borrowers only dropped 11% between



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2006 and 2009, it dropped 51% for African-American borrowers and 63% forLatinos.[xxii]


• Interest rate swaps. JPMorgan Chase had to pay a $722 million fine to settlecharges that it illegally paid off officials in Jefferson County, Alabama to secure interestrate swap deals that drove the county to the brink of bankruptcy. [xxiii] Across thecountry, the bank is gouging state and local governments for more than $200 million ayear on swap deals.[xxiv] JPMorgan Chase sold governments these deals as a way tosave money, but instead they have become a goldmine for the bank following thebailout, which is able to rake in millions at taxpayer expense.

• Letters of credit. JPMorgan Chase is squeezing state and local governments bymaking it tougher for them to renew letters of credit, a form of bond insurance thatmany cities and states need to keep bond interest rates from spiking up.[xxv]


• Auction-rate securities. After promoting auction-rate securities to local and stategovernment borrowers as a low-risk, low-cost source of financing, JPMorgan Chase andother banks pulled their support for the market in early 2008, causing auctions to failand leading to interest rates as high as 20% for government borrowers. Then thebanks charged local and state governments at least $1 billion in fees to convert theirauction-rate bonds to safer forms of debt, “enriching JPMorgan Chase & Co., GoldmanSachs Group Inc. and the rest of Wall Street that let the market fall apart,” accordingto Bloomberg.[xxvii]

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• Unemployment debit cards. Several states use JPMorgan Chase debit cards topay out unemployment and/or TANF benefits. The bank takes advantage of Americanswho have fallen on hard times by skimming fees off of their accounts. For example, inMichigan benefit recipients have to pay $4 if they go to a bank teller to withdrawmoney from their accounts more than once per pay period or $1 if they check theirbalance more than once per period.[xxix]

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of DougSingsenSent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 7:23 PMTo: [email protected]: Re: [september17discuss] Five demands from the NYCGA: how to link the struggle fordemocracy to the struggle for social and economic justice


Doug S


Hi all,

I apologize for being off-list and off-the-streets for a few

days, but I was lucky enough to become a father on September17!


Further, this refusal of having demands has nothing to do withthe current movements in the Middle East, Spain and Greece all



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of which have clear and loud demands. In the case of Arabcountries and Middle Eastern autocracies the demand cannot bebut one (remove the dictator). In Greece and Spain thesituation is more complex but the movements there have beenable to develop specific analyses and requests. In particularthe Joint Economics Working Group of Syntagma Square and Puertadel Sol have drafted a document (http://bit.ly/npCWkg) thatlists a specific set of demands, such as the request ofnationalizing the banks, withdrawing the EU/IMF Memorandum

imposed on Greece, make the accounting records transparent, andso forth.









2) Immediate introduction of a Tobin Tax or Robin Hood Tax on all

financial transactions both at a national and international level.On a national level, it would be sufficient for Congress to passit. On an international level, the IMF could subordinate loans tocountries in debt to the introduction of a Tobin Tax instead ofrequiring massive privatizations as it ordinarily does through thenotorious structural adjustment programs. In Europe, Angela Merkeland Nicholas Sarkozy have officialized their support to theintroduction of such tax in the EU about three weeks ago. Last Juneover 1,000 economist submitted a letter by 1,000 economists to the

G20 last April that explains why the idea of a global Robin HoodTax has “come of age.”(http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/apr/13/robin-hood-tax-economists-letter) Robinhoodtax.org, a web site run by a BritishNGO that explains in very simple terms how it works and how muchrevenue it could generate. The NGO also has a Facebook page.

3) Raise taxes on qualified dividends and long-term capital gainsby pairing the long-term capital gains tax rate (which applies tofinancial assets held for more than a year) to the ordinary incometax rates. At the moment, thanks to the Tax Reconciliation Actsigned by Bush into law in 2006 and extended by the Obamaadministration to 2012 and beyond, capital gains cannot be taxedmore than 20% whereas income tax is taxed up to 35%. This meansthat if your wage falls for example in the $35,000-83,000 bracket

your income tax is 25% whereas if you make 1, 10, or 100 milliondollars on the stock market your pay 20% only. Even Warren Buffettsays that this system is openly unjust and that the currenttaxation system is profoundly unbalanced and skewed towardsfinancial profit. (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/15/opinion/stop-coddling-the-super-rich.html)

These three proposals are far from revolutionary yet they couldbegin raising specific questions and help bring a variety ofsubjects into the conversation. The notion that a movement isdefined by its demands is ridiculous. A social movement is much















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more than a set of demands yet demands help those who are noton your side understand who you are and where you come from.

Two other critical points that should be discussed in the GAare the public funding of political campaigns and the two-partysystem. A paramount political objective should be to getcorporations to stop funding political candidates. You cannothave real democracy with the current system of fundraising. Atruly democratic system would give each citizen a tax bonus of

the SAME AMOUNT and enable each one of us to decide how toallocate such money. A truly democratic society should also notrely on forms of political representation based on amajoritarian (first-past-the-post) electoral system. If we arethe 99% of the country, then we ought to be able to convincethe rest of the nation that the 99% counts in fact nothing. Andcorporate funding and the two-party system should be the twomain targets of a campaign for real democracy.

To sum up, the question of the redistribution of wealth anddemocratic control over the financial system cannot bedisconnected from the question of political representation.Organizing a movement that fights "against representativepolitics" does not mean in my opinion to fight against *any*

form of representation, but certainly against the currentsystem of representation. We are over 6 billions on thisplanet. Thinking that each individual should have the right todecide on every issue in every part of the world at all timesmay sound fascinating but it is simply unrealistic andunrealizable. Whether we like it or not, we constantly delegateto others the understanding of issues and execution of tasks wesimply do not have the time to understand and care about. (Theworldwide professionalization of national armies and theadvanced specialization of knowledge in scientific and academicresearch are just two notable cases in point).

Thus the question is not how to abolish authority andrepresentation per se but how to produce forms ofrepresentation that are truly representative, renewable andnon-ossified. The NYCGA could be such a body, once we livebehind the rather childish notion that demands define us and bydefining us trap us in some blind alley from which we'll beunable to move forward.

Cheers,Snafu


[2] 25 th percentile is $9.98 per hour and 75 th percentile is $11.55 per hour. $10.77 per hour is average of the two.

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From: [email protected] on behalf of diane sare


Subject: SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Five demands from the NYCGA: how to link the struggle for democracyto the struggle for social and economic justice


Glass-Steagall would bust up the "too big to fail" banks, let the speculators rot, as

they should, and protect the small savings and loan banks, which means people'ssavings, mortgages, there would be hope for pension funds, etc. In other words,Glass-Steagall would bankrupt Wall Street -- it's not the whole recovery, but it IS thefirst step to protecting the PEOPLE, and making it possible to think long-term aboutradical things we used to do, like water management, rail building etc.


I apologize for being off-list and off-the-streets for a few days, but Iwas lucky enough to become a father on September 17!

I personally believe that the obstination of some members of the NYCGA onnot having demands has proved disastrous and resulted in a PR debacle.Invariably, almost all mainstream media accounts of the protests note thatthe demonstrators have confused ideas and are probably motivated by merelyideological motives.

Further, this refusal of having demands has nothing to do with the currentmovements in the Middle East, Spain and Greece all of which have clear andloud demands. In the case of Arab countries and Middle Eastern autocraciesthe demand cannot be but one (remove the dictator). In Greece and Spainthe situation is more complex but the movements there have been able todevelop specific analyses and requests. In particular the Joint EconomicsWorking Group of Syntagma Square and Puerta del Sol have drafted a document(http://bit.ly/npCWkg) that lists a specific set of demands, such as therequest of nationalizing the banks, withdrawing the EU/IMF Memorandumimposed on Greece, make the accounting records transparent, and so forth.

As I have previously suggested, the three simple demands that the NYCGA

should have raised in the call to Occupy Wall Street should have been:

1) Reintroduction of the Glass-Steagall Act, alawregulatingthebanksystem

thatseparatedinvestmentbanksfromcommercialbanks.Thislaw,originallyapprovedin

1933andsignedintolawbyFDRhasbeenrepealedin1999.AsWikipediasimplystatesit,

"MosteconomistsbelievethisrepealdirectlycontributedtotheseverityoftheFinancial

crisisof2007–2011byallowingWallStreetinvestmentbankingfirmstogamblewiththeir

depositors'moneythatwasheldincommercialbanksownedorcreatedbytheinvestment

firms."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass–Steagall_Act

2) Immediate introduction of a Tobin Tax or Robin Hood Tax on all

financial transactions both at a national and internationallevel. On a national level, it would be sufficient for Congressto pass it. On an international level, the IMF could subordinateloans to countries in debt to the introduction of a Tobin Taxinstead of requiring massive privatizations as it ordinarily doesthrough the notorious structural adjustment programs. In Europe,Angela Merkel and Nicholas Sarkozy have officialized theirsupport to the introduction of such tax in the EU about threeweeks ago. Last June over 1,000 economist submitted a letter by1,000 economists to the G20 last April that explains why theidea of a global Robin Hood Tax has “come of age.”(http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/apr/13/robin-hood-tax-

















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economists-letter) Robinhoodtax.org, a web site run by a BritishNGO that explains in very simple terms how it works and how muchrevenue it could generate. The NGO also has a Facebook page.

3) Raise taxes on qualified dividends and long-term capitalgains by pairing the long-term capital gains tax rate (whichapplies to financial assets held for more than a year) to theordinary income tax rates. At the moment, thanks to the Tax

Reconciliation Act signed by Bush into law in 2006 and extendedby the Obama administration to 2012 and beyond, capital gainscannot be taxed more than 20% whereas income tax is taxed up to35%. This means that if your wage falls for example in the$35,000-83,000 bracket your income tax is 25% whereas if youmake 1, 10, or 100 million dollars on the stock market your pay20% only. Even Warren Buffett says that this system is openlyunjust and that the current taxation system is profoundlyunbalanced and skewed towards financial profit.(http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/15/opinion/stop-coddling-the-super-rich.html)

These three proposals are far from revolutionary yet they could

begin raising specific questions and help bring a variety ofsubjects into the conversation. The notion that a movement isdefined by its demands is ridiculous. A social movement is much morethan a set of demands yet demands help those who are not on your sideunderstand who you are and where you come from.

Two other critical points that should be discussed in the GA are thepublic funding of political campaigns and the two-party system. A paramountpolitical objective should be to get corporations to stop funding politicalcandidates. You cannot have real democracy with the current system offundraising. A truly democratic system would give each citizen a tax bonusof the SAME AMOUNT and enable each one of us to decide how to allocatesuch money. A truly democratic society should also not rely on forms ofpolitical representation based on a majoritarian (first-past-the-post)electoral system. If we are the 99% of the country, then we ought to beable to convince the rest of the nation that the 99% counts in factnothing. And corporate funding and the two-party system should be the two

main targets of a campaign for real democracy.

To sum up, the question of the redistribution of wealth and democraticcontrol over the financial system cannot be disconnected from the questionof political representation. Organizing a movement that fights "againstrepresentative politics" does not mean in my opinion to fight against*any* form of representation, but certainly against the current system ofrepresentation. We are over 6 billions on this planet. Thinking that eachindividual should have the right to decide on every issue in every part ofthe world at all times may sound fascinating but it is simply unrealisticand unrealizable. Whether we like it or not, we constantly delegate toothers the understanding of issues and execution of tasks we simply do nothave the time to understand and care about. (The worldwideprofessionalization of national armies and the advanced specialization ofknowledge in scientific and academic research are just two notable casesin point).

Thus the question is not how to abolish authority and representation perse but how to produce forms of representation that are trulyrepresentative, renewable and non-ossified. The NYCGA could be such abody, once we live behind the rather childish notion that demands define usand by defining us trap us in some blind alley from which we'll be unableto move forward.

Cheers,Snafu









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From: [email protected] on behalf of Willie Osterweil




I think if we use demands at all we need to be focused on simple, clear demands

that will enlarge our ranks.

The house/senate wont pass anything even remotely looking like a change in wealthdistribution, the Obama administration bends over backwards to appease the bi-partisan banks, the Supreme Court declares that proof of innocence is insufficientcause for a stay of execution, and the media will always distort and misrepresent,either through malice or incompetence.

Thus, any sort of wonky policy demand that speaks only to the already politicallyactive is unproductive and serves to marginalize and entrench the protest into a pre-exiting middle-class protest community. The government will give us nothing, weneed to build the numbers to take...

The only positive function of demands is solidarity and recruitment: the simpler,broader and more universal, the better.

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Winter Siroco <[email protected]> wrote:...true, true...so, what would be your positive contribution or rearangement of priorities?be constructive.Cesar

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Willie Osterweil <[email protected]> wrote:

And nothing gets the blood of the people stirring like a call to reinstate Glass-Steagall. Yup, I can see it now, the media suddenly exploding with coverage,the ramparts filling with the oppressed and underrepresented: "They've calledfor the reinstatement of Glass-Steagall! Quickly, comrades, to arms! To arms!For Glass Steagall!"

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 8:58 AM, diane sare <[email protected]> wrote:Glass-Steagall would bust up the "too big to fail" banks, let the speculatorsrot, as they should, and protect the small savings and loan banks, whichmeans people's savings, mortgages, there would be hope for pension funds,etc. In other words, Glass-Steagall would bankrupt Wall Street -- it's not the

whole recovery, but it IS the first step to protecting the PEOPLE, and makingit possible to think long-term about radical things we used to do, like watermanagement, rail building etc.


I apologize for being off-list and off-the-streets for a few days,but I was lucky enough to become a father on September 17!

I personally believe that the obstination of some members of theNYCGA on not having demands has proved disastrous and resulted in a

















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PR debacle. Invariably, almost all mainstream media accounts of theprotests note that the demonstrators have confused ideas and areprobably motivated by merely ideological motives.

Further, this refusal of having demands has nothing to do with thecurrent movements in the Middle East, Spain and Greece all of whichhave clear and loud demands. In the case of Arab countries and MiddleEastern autocracies the demand cannot be but one (remove thedictator). In Greece and Spain the situation is more complex but themovements there have been able to develop specific analyses and

requests. In particular the Joint Economics Working Group of SyntagmaSquare and Puerta del Sol have drafted a document(http://bit.ly/npCWkg) that lists a specific set of demands, such asthe request of nationalizing the banks, withdrawing the EU/IMFMemorandum imposed on Greece, make the accounting recordstransparent, and so forth.

As I have previously suggested, the three simple demands that theNYCGA should have raised in the call to Occupy Wall Street shouldhave been:


systemthatseparatedinvestmentbanksfromcommercialbanks.Thislaw,originally

approvedin1933andsignedintolawbyFDRhasbeenrepealedin1999.As

Wikipediasimplystatesit,"MosteconomistsbelievethisrepealdirectlycontributedtotheseverityoftheFinancialcrisisof2007–2011byallowingWallStreet

investmentbankingfirmstogamblewiththeirdepositors'moneythatwasheldin

commercialbanksownedorcreatedbytheinvestmentfirms."


2) Immediate introduction of a Tobin Tax or Robin Hood Taxon all financial transactions both at a national andinternational level. On a national level, it would besufficient for Congress to pass it. On an internationallevel, the IMF could subordinate loans to countries in debtto the introduction of a Tobin Tax instead of requiring

massive privatizations as it ordinarily does through thenotorious structural adjustment programs. In Europe, AngelaMerkel and Nicholas Sarkozy have officialized their supportto the introduction of such tax in the EU about three weeksago. Last June over 1,000 economist submitted a letter by1,000 economists to the G20 last April that explains why theidea of a global Robin Hood Tax has “come of age.”(http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/apr/13/robin-hood-tax-economists-letter) Robinhoodtax.org, a web site run bya British NGO that explains in very simple terms how itworks and how much revenue it could generate. The NGO alsohas a Facebook page.

3) Raise taxes on qualified dividends and long-term capitalgains by pairing the long-term capital gains tax rate (whichapplies to financial assets held for more than a year) tothe ordinary income tax rates. At the moment, thanks to theTax Reconciliation Act signed by Bush into law in 2006 andextended by the Obama administration to 2012 and beyond,capital gains cannot be taxed more than 20% whereas incometax is taxed up to 35%. This means that if your wage fallsfor example in the $35,000-83,000 bracket your income taxis 25% whereas if you make 1, 10, or 100 million dollars onthe stock market your pay 20% only. Even Warren Buffett saysthat this system is openly unjust and that the current











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From: [email protected] on behalf of Winter Siroco




Yes, simple, broad and not demands but goals.

Cesar

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Willie Osterweil <[email protected]> wrote:I think if we use demands at all we need to be focused on simple, clear demandsthat will enlarge our ranks.

The house/senate wont pass anything even remotely looking like a change inwealth distribution, the Obama administration bends over backwards to appeasethe bi-partisan banks, the Supreme Court declares that proof of innocence isinsufficient cause for a stay of execution, and the media will always distort andmisrepresent, either through malice or incompetence.

Thus, any sort of wonky policy demand that speaks only to the already politicallyactive is unproductive and serves to marginalize and entrench the protest into apre-exiting middle-class protest community. The government will give us nothing,we need to build the numbers to take...

The only positive function of demands is solidarity and recruitment: the simpler,broader and more universal, the better.

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Winter Siroco <[email protected]> wrote:...true, true...so, what would be your positive contribution or rearangement of priorities?

be constructive.Cesar

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Willie Osterweil <[email protected]>wrote: And nothing gets the blood of the people stirring like a call to reinstate Glass-Steagall. Yup, I can see it now, the media suddenly exploding with coverage,the ramparts filling with the oppressed and underrepresented: "They've calledfor the reinstatement of Glass-Steagall! Quickly, comrades, to arms! To arms!For Glass Steagall!"

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 8:58 AM, diane sare <[email protected]> wrote:Glass-Steagall would bust up the "too big to fail" banks, let the speculatorsrot, as they should, and protect the small savings and loan banks, whichmeans people's savings, mortgages, there would be hope for pension funds,etc. In other words, Glass-Steagall would bankrupt Wall Street -- it's not thewhole recovery, but it IS the first step to protecting the PEOPLE, and makingit possible to think long-term about radical things we used to do, like watermanagement, rail building etc.

















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I apologize for being off-list and off-the-streets for a few days,but I was lucky enough to become a father on September 17!

I personally believe that the obstination of some members of theNYCGA on not having demands has proved disastrous and resulted in aPR debacle. Invariably, almost all mainstream media accounts of theprotests note that the demonstrators have confused ideas and are

probably motivated by merely ideological motives.

Further, this refusal of having demands has nothing to do with thecurrent movements in the Middle East, Spain and Greece all of whichhave clear and loud demands. In the case of Arab countries andMiddle Eastern autocracies the demand cannot be but one (remove thedictator). In Greece and Spain the situation is more complex butthe movements there have been able to develop specific analyses andrequests. In particular the Joint Economics Working Group ofSyntagma Square and Puerta del Sol have drafted a document(http://bit.ly/npCWkg) that lists a specific set of demands, suchas the request of nationalizing the banks, withdrawing the EU/IMFMemorandum imposed on Greece, make the accounting recordstransparent, and so forth.

As I have previously suggested, the three simple demands that the

NYCGA should have raised in the call to Occupy Wall Street shouldhave been:


systemthatseparatedinvestmentbanksfromcommercialbanks.Thislaw,

originallyapprovedin1933andsignedintolawbyFDRhasbeenrepealedin1999.

AsWikipediasimplystatesit,"Mosteconomistsbelievethisrepealdirectly

contributedtotheseverityoftheFinancialcrisisof2007–2011byallowingWall

Streetinvestmentbankingfirmstogamblewiththeirdepositors'moneythatwas

heldincommercialbanksownedorcreatedbytheinvestmentfirms."


2) Immediate introduction of a Tobin Tax or Robin Hood Taxon all financial transactions both at a national andinternational level. On a national level, it would besufficient for Congress to pass it. On an internationallevel, the IMF could subordinate loans to countries indebt to the introduction of a Tobin Tax instead ofrequiring massive privatizations as it ordinarily doesthrough the notorious structural adjustment programs. InEurope, Angela Merkel and Nicholas Sarkozy haveofficialized their support to the introduction of such taxin the EU about three weeks ago. Last June over 1,000economist submitted a letter by 1,000 economists to theG20 last April that explains why the idea of a global

Robin Hood Tax has “come of age.”(http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/apr/13/robin-hood-tax-economists-letter) Robinhoodtax.org, a web site run bya British NGO that explains in very simple terms how itworks and how much revenue it could generate. The NGO alsohas a Facebook page.

3) Raise taxes on qualified dividends and long-term capital gains by pairing the long-term capital gains taxrate (which applies to financial assets held for more thana year) to the ordinary income tax rates. At the moment,













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thanks to the Tax Reconciliation Act signed by Bush intolaw in 2006 and extended by the Obama administration to2012 and beyond, capital gains cannot be taxed more than20% whereas income tax is taxed up to 35%. This means thatif your wage falls for example in the $35,000-83,000bracket your income tax is 25% whereas if you make 1, 10,or 100 million dollars on the stock market your pay 20%only. Even Warren Buffett says that this system is openlyunjust and that the current taxation system is profoundly

unbalanced and skewed towards financial profit.(http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/15/opinion/stop-coddling-the-super-rich.html)

These three proposals are far from revolutionary yet theycould begin raising specific questions and help bring avariety of subjects into the conversation. The notion thata movement is defined by its demands is ridiculous. Asocial movement is much more than a set of demands yet demands helpthose who are not on your side understand who you are and where youcome from.

Two other critical points that should be discussed in the GA arethe public funding of political campaigns and the two-party system.

A paramount political objective should be to get corporations tostop funding political candidates. You cannot have real democracywith the current system of fundraising. A truly democratic systemwould give each citizen a tax bonus of the SAME AMOUNT and enableeach one of us to decide how to allocate such money. A trulydemocratic society should also not rely on forms of politicalrepresentation based on a majoritarian (first-past-the-post)electoral system. If we are the 99% of the country, then we oughtto be able to convince the rest of the nation that the 99% countsin fact nothing. And corporate funding and the two-party systemshould be the two main targets of a campaign for real democracy.

To sum up, the question of the redistribution of wealth anddemocratic control over the financial system cannot be disconnectedfrom the question of political representation. Organizing a movementthat fights "against representative politics" does not mean in myopinion to fight against *any* form of representation, but

certainly against the current system of representation. We are over6 billions on this planet. Thinking that each individual shouldhave the right to decide on every issue in every part of the worldat all times may sound fascinating but it is simply unrealistic andunrealizable. Whether we like it or not, we constantly delegate toothers the understanding of issues and execution of tasks we simplydo not have the time to understand and care about. (The worldwideprofessionalization of national armies and the advancedspecialization of knowledge in scientific and academic research arejust two notable cases in point).

Thus the question is not how to abolish authority andrepresentation per se but how to produce forms of representationthat are truly representative, renewable and non-ossified. TheNYCGA could be such a body, once we live behind the rather childishnotion that demands define us and by defining us trap us in someblind alley from which we'll be unable to move forward.

Cheers,Snafu

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From: [email protected] on behalf of Mellow Yellow




Hi Free Folks,

This is a pretty radical proposal but I am gonna put it out there.

No demands. Instead, we will live and practice and be the change we want to see. Our only"demand" is an invitation to all New Yorkers, all US citizens, and perhaps all peoples aroundthe world living under corrupt, exploitative, violent and oppressive political or economicsystems to JOIN US. Anyone who feel dis-enfranchised, voiceless, or lacks basic human rightsor liberties should JOIN US. Anyone who wants to have a planet that will continue to sustainlife should JOIN US.

Liberty Plaza, quite simply, is a liberated zone, and we are forming a new government inopposition to the dominant systems. We are practicing direct participatory democracy, and weINVITE YOU TO JOIN US!

The logical conclusion is admittedly a polarizing, but if Libyan "rebels" can claim to be

legitimate government of that state, why can't we lay claim to a new legitimacy? We are anew state that explicitly rejects violence.

I appreciate any responses or feedback on this suggestion.

Mellow Yellow

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:48 AM, gail zawacki <[email protected]> wrote:I loved the chant at Copenhagen - System Change not Climate Change.

Growth is not sustainable on a finite earth. We need to find new measures of quality of lifeif we are going to survive.

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:22 AM, grimwomyn <[email protected]> wrote: Yeah, I don't know that we even need to get too specific on the demands as the OWSeffort has started people from all over the country talking about corporate controlin their lives, and they are starting to wake up and recognize how it isinherently injurious. If we are truly here for the people, I think that informing on all thereasons corporate influence is damaging to society is a great start -- and it is notnecessarily up to us to frame what the answers should be, we do have elected officials,we just need to shout and scream until they start examining options that will really helpus.

The lowering of interest rates by the Fed is useless to the rest of us. It is not systemic,what we really need to be pushing is the language of systemic change, what is being

offered presently is business as usual to help the usual. I'm not sure we would even knowwhat real change looks like... so reaching out to visionaries like Bernie Sanders and otherswill help that conversation along.


















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Hey all,








Just some thoughts

Peace, Lisa

SEE BELOW

1: draft old flier




• Home ow ners: through mortgages and loans, refusing to negotiate onforeclosures, redlining in communities, leaving communities vacant and blithe, refusing





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to reduce principle, dealing with homes worth less now then is owed aka “underwater”


• Military Personal:. More than 20,000 veterans, reservists and active-duty troops




• Poor P eople: JP provides the debit cards for 43 million Americans on foodstamps and gets a cut for each use

• Bank W orkers: opposing the right to a union





• Farmers

• War – JP invests in munitions http://www.banktrack.org/show/bankprofi les/jpmorgan_chase





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FORECLOSURE CRISIS


• Foreclosure Fraud. JPMorgan Chase employees admitted to signing 18,000foreclosure documents per month without reviewing the information in each file toensure that the bank had a legal right to proceed with foreclosure.[xvii] The bank wasforced to stop foreclosures in 41 states as a result of the robo-signing scandal, [xviii]which also led Attorneys General in all 50 states to launch investigations intoforeclosure fraud.



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• Loan M odifications. Despite large incentives from taxpayers, as of January 2011,

JPMorgan Chase had given permanent mortgage modifications to only 42% of itshomeowners who are still eligible for the Obama Administration’s Home AffordableModification Program (HAMP). The bank had rejected 354,822 families from HAMP,almost as many as Bank of America (193,231) and Wells Fargo (172,278)combined.[xx]

• Exploiting Military Members. JPMorgan Chase overcharged 4,500 militarymembers on their mortgages and improperly foreclosed on 18 of them. Once the issuecame under Congressional scrutiny, the bank announced it would take steps to correctthe problems.[xxi]

• Predatory Lending. From 2006 through 2009, JPMorgan Chase (and mortgagelenders it has since acquired) was more than twice as likely to put African-Americanand Latino borrowers into higher-cost, subprime loans than white borrowers.Furthermore, while mortgage lending to white borrowers only dropped 11% between2006 and 2009, it dropped 51% for African-American borrowers and 63% forLatinos.[xxii]


• Interest rate swaps. JPMorgan Chase had to pay a $722 million fine to settle

charges that it illegally paid off officials in Jefferson County, Alabama to secure interestrate swap deals that drove the county to the brink of bankruptcy.[xxiii] Across thecountry, the bank is gouging state and local governments for more than $200 million ayear on swap deals.[xxiv] JPMorgan Chase sold governments these deals as a way tosave money, but instead they have become a goldmine for the bank following thebailout, which is able to rake in millions at taxpayer expense.

• Letters of credit. JPMorgan Chase is squeezing state and local governments bymaking it tougher for them to renew letters of credit, a form of bond insurance thatmany cities and states need to keep bond interest rates from spiking up. [xxv]

• Predatory loans to government. JPMorgan Chase is making a profit by lendingtaxpayers their own money. Even though the bank has access to ultra-cheap loans

from the Federal Reserve, speculated to be as low as 0.5%, JPMorgan Chase ismanipulating government budget processes and charging local and state governmentsmuch higher interest rates. For instance, when Philadelphia was in a budget pinch infall 2009, instead of passing the 0.5% interest rate onto taxpayers, the bank offeredthe city a 3% bridge loan that would reset to 8% if it wasn’t paid off in a fewmonths.[xxvi]

• Auction-rate securities. After promoting auction-rate securities to local and stategovernment borrowers as a low-risk, low-cost source of financing, JPMorgan Chase andother banks pulled their support for the market in early 2008, causing auctions to failand leading to interest rates as high as 20% for government borrowers. Then thebanks charged local and state governments at least $1 billion in fees to convert their



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Hi all,

I apologize for being off-list and off-the-streets for a fewdays, but I was lucky enough to become a father on September17!


Further, this refusal of having demands has nothing to do withthe current movements in the Middle East, Spain and Greece allof which have clear and loud demands. In the case of Arabcountries and Middle Eastern autocracies the demand cannot bebut one (remove the dictator). In Greece and Spain thesituation is more complex but the movements there have beenable to develop specific analyses and requests. In particular

the Joint Economics Working Group of Syntagma Square and Puertadel Sol have drafted a document (http://bit.ly/npCWkg) thatlists a specific set of demands, such as the request ofnationalizing the banks, withdrawing the EU/IMF Memorandumimposed on Greece, make the accounting records transparent, andso forth.




in1933andsignedintolawbyFDRhasbeenrepealedin1999.AsWikipediasimplystatesit,"MosteconomistsbelievethisrepealdirectlycontributedtotheseverityoftheFinancialcrisisof




2) Immediate introduction of a Tobin Tax or Robin Hood Tax on allfinancial transactions both at a national and international level.On a national level, it would be sufficient for Congress to passit. On an international level, the IMF could subordinate loans tocountries in debt to the introduction of a Tobin Tax instead ofrequiring massive privatizations as it ordinarily does through thenotorious structural adjustment programs. In Europe, Angela Merkel

and Nicholas Sarkozy have officialized their support to theintroduction of such tax in the EU about three weeks ago. Last Juneover 1,000 economist submitted a letter by 1,000 economists to theG20 last April that explains why the idea of a global Robin HoodTax has “come of age.”(http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/apr/13/robin-hood-tax-economists-letter) Robinhoodtax.org, a web site run by a BritishNGO that explains in very simple terms how it works and how muchrevenue it could generate. The NGO also has a Facebook page.

3) Raise taxes on qualified dividends and long-term capital gainsby pairing the long-term capital gains tax rate (which applies tofinancial assets held for more than a year) to the ordinary income













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tax rates. At the moment, thanks to the Tax Reconciliation Actsigned by Bush into law in 2006 and extended by the Obamaadministration to 2012 and beyond, capital gains cannot be taxedmore than 20% whereas income tax is taxed up to 35%. This meansthat if your wage falls for example in the $35,000-83,000 bracketyour income tax is 25% whereas if you make 1, 10, or 100 milliondollars on the stock market your pay 20% only. Even Warren Buffettsays that this system is openly unjust and that the currenttaxation system is profoundly unbalanced and skewed towardsfinancial profit. (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/15/opinion/stop-

coddling-the-super-rich.html)


Two other critical points that should be discussed in the GAare the public funding of political campaigns and the two-partysystem. A paramount political objective should be to getcorporations to stop funding political candidates. You cannothave real democracy with the current system of fundraising. A

truly democratic system would give each citizen a tax bonus ofthe SAME AMOUNT and enable each one of us to decide how toallocate such money. A truly democratic society should also notrely on forms of political representation based on amajoritarian (first-past-the-post) electoral system. If we arethe 99% of the country, then we ought to be able to convincethe rest of the nation that the 99% counts in fact nothing. Andcorporate funding and the two-party system should be the twomain targets of a campaign for real democracy.

To sum up, the question of the redistribution of wealth anddemocratic control over the financial system cannot bedisconnected from the question of political representation.Organizing a movement that fights "against representativepolitics" does not mean in my opinion to fight against *any*

form of representation, but certainly against the currentsystem of representation. We are over 6 billions on thisplanet. Thinking that each individual should have the right todecide on every issue in every part of the world at all timesmay sound fascinating but it is simply unrealistic andunrealizable. Whether we like it or not, we constantly delegateto others the understanding of issues and execution of tasks wesimply do not have the time to understand and care about. (Theworldwide professionalization of national armies and theadvanced specialization of knowledge in scientific and academicresearch are just two notable cases in point).

Thus the question is not how to abolish authority andrepresentation per se but how to produce forms ofrepresentation that are truly representative, renewable and

non-ossified. The NYCGA could be such a body, once we livebehind the rather childish notion that demands define us and bydefining us trap us in some blind alley from which we'll beunable to move forward.

Cheers,Snafu







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[2] 25 th percentile is $9.98 per hour and 75 th percentile is $11.55 per hour. $10.77 per hour is average of the two.

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[ii] Capital IQ.

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[x] Capital IQ.

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[xvi]http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703440004575548403873382036.html?KEYWORDS=%22home+loans+in+foreclosure%22






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Subject: SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Guest Speaker?


Sounds excellent to me. Getting speakers will attract more listeners.

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 1:32 AM, NicolasMoselleAllen <[email protected]>wrote:

Dear Occupiers,

After several unsuccessful solicitations for guest speakers- MichaelParent wishes us well and regrets that he can't be in New York; DavidHarvey is out of the country; Richard Wolff promises to plug theOccupation on his lecture circuit - I received an affirmativecommitment today from Stathis Gourgouris of Columbia University. Notquite as much of a "household name", Stathis is, among other things, atop-shelf anarchist intellectual who regularly teaches a class onradical democracy at Columbia, and, perhaps more importantly, he is

"intrigued" by what we are doing and would like to speak at LibertyPlaza. Stathis has been active at the Greek Syntagma and providedseveral in-depth analysis of that movement for Al-Jazeera and othermajor news sources. Also, he's a very kind man. I think this could bea great addition to the Wall Street Occupation and, following on theheels of Ivan's presentation, would help to further the trend of drawing speakers to the space. So, what do you say? I suppose Ishould begin by making a proposal at the GA, but doesn't this soundgood?

Love,

Nico











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Subject: SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Heart of Glass(-Steagall)

Date: Saturday, September 24, 2011 10:58:58 PM

Even if legislation similar to Glass Steagal were enected it would be named after the congress people that

sponsored it, so yes asking for general demands makes more seinse than asking for legislation that cannot be

resurrected.

On 09/24/11, Amye R<[email protected]> wrote:

In my personal opinion we should be focused on more universal demands, such as universal access to

healthcare, food, shelter, a healthy environment, etc., and changing the entire system rather than working from

the pre-existing structure. However, since it the 1933 Glass-Seagall act has been discussed, I thought people

might be interested in knowing what it is. here is a link to it incase anyone is curious. I am posting this for

informational purposes only and not to condemn or support the act itself.

http://www.archive.org/stream/FullTextTheGlass-

steagallActA.k.a.TheBankingActOf1933/1933_01248#page/n0/mode/2up

Peace,

Amye






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Subject: SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Helium balloons


Gail, I honestly believe that this movement is more important than some turtles.*The balloons are a great idea and really positive in almost every respect. If we can

find an equally effective thing that's bright and doesn't pollute the environment oraffect wildlife, I'm unequivocally for it. But if turtles must be put at risk so thatpeople can have a chance of living under less oppression, I won't lose any sleep.

*My argument on such things generally goes: ending the system where profit is theprimary motivating factor on how humans affect this planet will, in the long run,reduce pollution and improve animal welfare. The reverse of that arrangement,however, is not true.

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:56 AM, MAd Hatter <[email protected]>wrote: YES! Lets get 100's of them!

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Marina Sitrin <[email protected]>wrote:> I think a lot of beautiful colored balloons would help the Plaza> image. Festive and fun - plus we can write messages on them, or use a> few together to make a phrase (We are the 99%) etc. If they are helium> and high enough they will not obstruct the view of anyone (police> requirements either). We can give them to children who pass ... have a> bunch together by the stairs so people passing can have a little idea> what we are about ... lots of ideas.>

> I will bring some Saturday, but imagine the more the better.>> Marina>> --> Seamos realistas, hagamos lo imposible ~ che>













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I acknowledge that we all make compromises, and can't always avoid makingnegative impacts on the environment, and I generally put it that, you can't make an

omelet without breaking some eggs.

However, I doubt this movement hinges on littering with balloons...and it isn't onlyturtles that are affected by plastic garbage. Plastic derives from oil, which is whatwe're fighting wars and killing people for. The chemicals leach into our air, food andwater and cause cancer.

It seems that people could spend just a few minutes thinking about a satisfactoryalternative.

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Jon Good <[email protected]> wrote:Gail, I honestly believe that this movement is more important than some turtles.*

The balloons are a great idea and really positive in almost every respect. If wecan find an equally effective thing that's bright and doesn't pollute theenvironment or affect wildlife, I'm unequivocally for it. But if turtles must be put atrisk so that people can have a chance of living under less oppression, I won't loseany sleep.

*My argument on such things generally goes: ending the system where profit isthe primary motivating factor on how humans affect this planet will, in the longrun, reduce pollution and improve animal welfare. The reverse of thatarrangement, however, is not true.

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:56 AM, MAd Hatter <[email protected]>

wrote: YES! Lets get 100's of them!

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Marina Sitrin <[email protected]>wrote:> I think a lot of beautiful colored balloons would help the Plaza> image. Festive and fun - plus we can write messages on them, or use a> few together to make a phrase (We are the 99%) etc. If they are helium> and high enough they will not obstruct the view of anyone (police> requirements either). We can give them to children who pass ... have a> bunch together by the stairs so people passing can have a little idea

> what we are about ... lots of ideas.>> I will bring some Saturday, but imagine the more the better.>> Marina>> --> Seamos realistas, hagamos lo imposible ~ che>















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we could do bubbles--- cheaper than balloons and less toxic-- available everywhere

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 11:16 AM, gail zawacki <[email protected]> wrote:I acknowledge that we all make compromises, and can't always avoid makingnegative impacts on the environment, and I generally put it that, you can't makean omelet without breaking some eggs.

However, I doubt this movement hinges on littering with balloons...and it isn't onlyturtles that are affected by plastic garbage. Plastic derives from oil, which is whatwe're fighting wars and killing people for. The chemicals leach into our air, foodand water and cause cancer.

It seems that people could spend just a few minutes thinking about a satisfactoryalternative.

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Jon Good <[email protected]> wrote:Gail, I honestly believe that this movement is more important than someturtles.* The balloons are a great idea and really positive in almost everyrespect. If we can find an equally effective thing that's bright and doesn't pollutethe environment or affect wildlife, I'm unequivocally for it. But if turtles must beput at risk so that people can have a chance of living under less oppression, Iwon't lose any sleep.

*My argument on such things generally goes: ending the system where profit isthe primary motivating factor on how humans affect this planet will, in the long

run, reduce pollution and improve animal welfare. The reverse of thatarrangement, however, is not true.

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:56 AM, MAd Hatter <[email protected]>wrote: YES! Lets get 100's of them!

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Marina Sitrin <[email protected]>wrote:> I think a lot of beautiful colored balloons would help the Plaza> image. Festive and fun - plus we can write messages on them, or use a

> few together to make a phrase (We are the 99%) etc. If they are helium> and high enough they will not obstruct the view of anyone (police> requirements either). We can give them to children who pass ... have a> bunch together by the stairs so people passing can have a little idea> what we are about ... lots of ideas.>> I will bring some Saturday, but imagine the more the better.>> Marina>

















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> --> Seamos realistas, hagamos lo imposible ~ che>



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Thank you!

Also music is great. What about fabric ribbons that can be twirled? At least theyare reusable.

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 11:18 AM, grimwomyn <[email protected]> wrote:we could do bubbles--- cheaper than balloons and less toxic-- availableeverywhere

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 11:16 AM, gail zawacki <[email protected]> wrote:I acknowledge that we all make compromises, and can't always avoid makingnegative impacts on the environment, and I generally put it that, you can't makean omelet without breaking some eggs.

However, I doubt this movement hinges on littering with balloons...and it isn'tonly turtles that are affected by plastic garbage. Plastic derives from oil, whichis what we're fighting wars and killing people for. The chemicals leach into ourair, food and water and cause cancer.

It seems that people could spend just a few minutes thinking about asatisfactory alternative.

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Jon Good <[email protected]>wrote:

Gail, I honestly believe that this movement is more important than someturtles.* The balloons are a great idea and really positive in almost everyrespect. If we can find an equally effective thing that's bright and doesn'tpollute the environment or affect wildlife, I'm unequivocally for it. But if turtlesmust be put at risk so that people can have a chance of living under lessoppression, I won't lose any sleep.

*My argument on such things generally goes: ending the system where profitis the primary motivating factor on how humans affect this planet will, in thelong run, reduce pollution and improve animal welfare. The reverse of thatarrangement, however, is not true.

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:56 AM, MAd Hatter<[email protected]> wrote: YES! Lets get 100's of them!

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Marina Sitrin <[email protected]>wrote:> I think a lot of beautiful colored balloons would help the Plaza> image. Festive and fun - plus we can write messages on them, or use a> few together to make a phrase (We are the 99%) etc. If they are helium



















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> and high enough they will not obstruct the view of anyone (police> requirements either). We can give them to children who pass ... have a> bunch together by the stairs so people passing can have a little idea> what we are about ... lots of ideas.>> I will bring some Saturday, but imagine the more the better.>

> Marina>> --> Seamos realistas, hagamos lo imposible ~ che>



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brilliant, bring something to weigh them down so we dont have to argue with the cops over tying them to stuff

On 09/23/11, Marina Sitrin<[email protected]> wrote:

I think a lot of beautiful colored balloons would help the Plaza

image. Festive and fun - plus we can write messages on them, or use a

few together to make a phrase (We are the 99%) etc. If they are helium

and high enough they will not obstruct the view of anyone (police

requirements either). We can give them to children who pass ... have a

bunch together by the stairs so people passing can have a little idea

what we are about ... lots of ideas.

I will bring some Saturday, but imagine the more the better.

Marina

--

Seamos realistas, hagamos lo imposible ~ che









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YES! Lets get 100's of them!

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Marina Sitrin <[email protected]> wrote:> I think a lot of beautiful colored balloons would help the Plaza> image. Festive and fun - plus we can write messages on them, or use a> few together to make a phrase (We are the 99%) etc. If they are helium> and high enough they will not obstruct the view of anyone (police> requirements either). We can give them to children who pass ... have a> bunch together by the stairs so people passing can have a little idea> what we are about ... lots of ideas.>> I will bring some Saturday, but imagine the more the better.>> Marina

>> --> Seamos realistas, hagamos lo imposible ~ che>









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Subject: SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] How do I...


as for the square-- no idea-- but try this out to find wifi:http://www.openwifinyc.com/classic/index.php

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 2:48 PM, J.A. Myerson < [email protected]>wrote:


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From: [email protected] on behalf of Chuck Schumer


Subject: SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] idea from Lupe Fiasco


Amazing idea. Making this happen should be a priority. Many of the headlines I'vebeen seeing seem to promote the number of arrests. This could put a great spin on

the attitude of those occupying.

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Kelley Wolcott <[email protected]> wrote:That is a great idea!

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Lucas Vazquez <[email protected]>wrote:

I can take care of that Micah. Just let me know the specifics. My number is 631741 0531

Solidarity, Lucas Vazquez

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Micah White <[email protected]>wrote:

Hey everyone,

Lupe Fiasco has an idea and is looking for a volunteer. He wants to pay for atable at the occupation that "says 'NYPD officers only' that has donuts/pastries and hot coffee and cups...and we have to keep it stocked and openstrictly for the police...lemme know a contact person on the ground that canset this up and maintain it I'll get the money over to them to make ithappen...we gotta have the cops sympathetic to the cause...it will thin the

atmosphere and decrease tension..."

If you like this idea, please email me asap and I'll connect you with Lupe.

Thanks,

Micah















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From: [email protected] on behalf of Justine


Subject: SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Mass Text Service (Information is Power)


I would like to build this for you guys if possible since I've already been handlingtelecom stuff like the toll free help line and have a telecom/network donation fund to

pay for it.

I agree with Micah that Twilio would probably be our best bet.

Here's what I propose:

1. Create a page on OccupyWallSt.org that allows people to add/remove their phonenumber to the SMS list.

2. Create a web page only members from the media committee can see that allowsyou to enter a text message, hit send, and the server will forward it to every phonenumber on the list.

I can have this set up in two days.

Thoughts?

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Micah White <[email protected]> wrote:Twilio.com is also a good option, allows advanced programming and is easy touse.

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Justin Wedes < [email protected]> wrote:I have an account with grouptexting already, and it works well.

Also, its number is a LONG CODE, meaning no extra fees for people tosend/receive messages from us

-j

On Sep 23, 2011, at 1:26 PM, Alexandre Machado De Sant'Anna Carvalho wrote:

Peeps:

Aas Foucault once wrote, "Information is Power"; if ourmovement allows information to cluster and remain stagnant in the

hands of few inside our camp (such as the media group or thefacilitators working group) without flowing to others we run the risk of marginalizing and creating a power hierarchy that will soon startshowing its detrimental effects.

We are doing a great job in making the information flow outwards tothe world, and i believe we can do a better job at making that flowhappen on the ground, at our camp! To that end, we could usea mass SMS online service where people register their phone #'s intoa website platform and the media team can fire a torpedo with






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information to everyone on the ground. Furthermore, this can be used to coordinate operations, marches,warn of police presence, and other important information. This is theservice: https://www.textmarks.com/

Much love and candy,

Alê

-- Alexandre M.S. Carvalho, M.D., MPH2009 Reynolds Fellowmobile +1 914 563 4209 home +1 914 633 0415 www.nyu.edu/reynolds



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Subject: SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Mass Text Service (Information is Power)


I have an account with grouptexting already, and it works well.

Also, its number is a LONG CODE, meaning no extra fees for people to send/receivemessages from us

-j

On Sep 23, 2011, at 1:26 PM, Alexandre Machado De Sant'Anna Carvalho wrote:

Peeps:

Aas Foucault once wrote, "Information is P ower"; if our movementallows information to cluster and remain stagnant in the hands of few

inside our camp (such as the media group or the facilitators workinggroup) without flowing to others we run the risk of marginalizing andcreating a power hierarchy that will soon start showing its detrimentaleffects.

We are doing a great job in making the information flow outwards to theworld, and i believe we can do a better job at making that flow happenon the ground, at our camp! To that end, we could use a mass SMSonline service where people register their phone #'s into a websiteplatform and the media team can fire a torpedo with information toeveryone on the ground.

Furthermore, this can be used to coordinate operations, marches, warnof police presence, and other important information. This is the service: https://www.textmarks.com/ Much love and candy,

Alê

-- Alexandre M.S. Carvalho, M.D., MPH2009 Reynolds Fellow

mobile +1 914 563 4209home +1 914 633 0415www.nyu.edu/reynolds













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From: [email protected] on behalf of Drew Hornbein


Subject: SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Media Group: Photographer Available


Some photos of people at liberty plaza holding signs would begreat: http://wearethe99percent.tumblr.com/

-Drew

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:11 AM, grimwomyn <[email protected]> wrote: A friend of mine is in town for a documentary and to cover the OWS effort.. if there are things that you would like to be focused on (like the diversity of participants) let me know and I will forward on...

Cheers-


great ideas!


Hi,these are two simple suggestion for the media people. I would havedone them by myself if I knew how to do it and have the necessarymaterial, but I don't, so I throw the idea here just in case someonefinds it useful. I offer any help I can to whoever is interested in doingthis.

music videoDo you remember Saturday's assembly, when someone started tosing Journey's "Don't stop believing"? Everyone there started singing.It may sound not very "radical", but it was probably my favoritemoment of that night (and there were plenty of them!). Very nice,warm and funny moment.Why don't edit a video using that song? We could use lots of footageof the assemblies, and even some frames of participants singing tothe camera. Whatever works.I know. The song is cheesy. That's precisely a strong part of itspower. It has a meaning for the Liberty Plaza community, but also isa famous song (a subtle, powerful depiction of the american working

class everyday life) and contains an encouraging message. Reallygood for a viral!Journey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfUYuIVbFg0Glee http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWMYGLxSWPM(I personally prefer the original by Journey. Glee's is maybe morepopular now, but Journey's retains the working class element)

slideshowIn Barcelona they use to have a gallery of photos of participants.They are amazing, precisely because they show the enormous






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diversity among the people there. Here is a slideshow:http://www.flickr.com/photos/63055421@N04/sets/72157626783708762/show/with/5748872448/Would it be possible to arrange a similar gallery?Just having aphotographer taking such portraits at different times of the day. Indoing so, we can try to communicate the existing diversity of themovement we want to build. This could be posted to the NYCGA

blog.








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Subject: SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Media Group: Photographer Available


on it!

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:22 AM, Drew Hornbein <[email protected]> wrote:Some photos of people at liberty plaza holding signs would begreat: http://wearethe99percent.tumblr.com/

-Drew

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:11 AM, grimwomyn <[email protected]> wrote: A friend of mine is in town for a documentary and to cover the OWS effort.. if there are things that you would like to be focused on (like the diversity of participants) let me know and I will forward on...

Cheers-


great ideas!


Hi,these are two simple suggestion for the media people. I would havedone them by myself if I knew how to do it and have the necessary

material, but I don't, so I throw the idea here just in case someonefinds it useful. I offer any help I can to whoever is interested indoing this.

music videoDo you remember Saturday's assembly, when someone started tosing Journey's "Don't stop believing"? Everyone there startedsinging. It may sound not very "radical", but it was probably myfavorite moment of that night (and there were plenty of them!).

Very nice, warm and funny moment.Why don't edit a video using that song? We could use lots of footage of the assemblies, and even some frames of participants

singing to the camera. Whatever works.I know. The song is cheesy. That's precisely a strong part of itspower. It has a meaning for the Liberty Plaza community, but alsois a famous song (a subtle, powerful depiction of the americanworking class everyday life) and contains an encouraging message.Really good for a viral!Journey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfUYuIVbFg0Glee http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWMYGLxSWPM(I personally prefer the original by Journey. Glee's is maybe morepopular now, but Journey's retains the working class element)





















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slideshowIn Barcelona they use to have a gallery of photos of participants.They are amazing, precisely because they show the enormousdiversity among the people there. Here is a slideshow:http://www.flickr.com/photos/63055421@N04/sets/72157626783708762/show/with/5748872448/

Would it be possible to arrange a similar gallery?Just having aphotographer taking such portraits at different times of the day. Indoing so, we can try to communicate the existing diversity of themovement we want to build. This could be posted to the NYCGA blog.








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Subject: SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] On Using Corporate Money and the Inherent Risks Involved, and a BitMore on What We Are Doing


For comic relief, anyone who has video or information about this please send it! It

was funny, and we need some funny.

And the underlying thing is, if we don't acknowledge that industrial society isdestroying a habitable climate, pollution is rendering our air, water and soildangerously contaminated, and overpopulation is a certain path to our ownextinction, then all the protests about the economy will be of little use. Theeconomy is dependent upon the ecosystem that sustains life.

http://witsendnj.blogspot.com/2011/09/snobby-illiterati-to-protest-wall-st.html

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 6:42 PM, < [email protected]> wrote:I used to play an excellent video game called Deus Ex. It was about how the technology of suppression could

be used against the powers that be. It is a dangerous game though. If we go that way we cannot lose sight of who we are, where we are going, and that we are subverting the technology not enslaving ourselves to it. (If

you ever got to the end of the game, you know what I mean lol.)

On 09/23/11, Alexandre Machado De Sant'Anna Carvalho<[email protected]> wrote:

Hey guys;

This is such an important issue. I tend to agree with Micah and Harrison at the same time (can you please

become friends again? lol). On Micah's point, there is a considerable risk of co-opt when corporate money

starts to sustain our movement - there is a subtle tendency to lose autonomy and a desire to please patrons,

making the radicalized aspect of what we are doing lose taste and become, as all things that corporate

ideology touches, insipid and dehumanized. On the other hand, i also agree with Harrison, that it is beautiful togo Robin Hood, and steal from the rich and use their game to fund its own subversion. Specially in a world

where corporations feed us, clothe us, oversee our communications, build the chairs we are sitting, etc...

I have been approached by many people that said, "You are a hypocrite. Why then are you using Facebook,

Twitter to spread the word? why your pizza is Papa John's? Why do you make use of an iPad or iPhone then?

", which is a good point but ultimately a false misconception. I believe none of us is lunatic enough to deny the

good services and products that made us stand where we are. From vaccines to laser registers, iPhones and

iPads, even the thyroid medication i am forced to take and on which my life depends - dude, i don't think we

deny the benefits of technological advance. We appreciate them. Thanks. But this does not mean that we are

unaware of how the world works.

Cannot speak for everyone else, but i think people on this movement envision different ways to arrive at

certain products; i.e., how to organize labor, how to make products, distribute them, research them, andspecially FUND them... we believe that the end is not the prob lem, but t he MEANS. The process by

which we arrive at iPads or iPhone's is fucked up, not the freaking telephones per se. Maybe an exception can

be made to death machines such as A-bombs and the like...

Don't feel guilty of making the revolution with the weapons at your reach. All of what we are doing is a direct

challenge to the PROCESSES of mainstream society. That's why many voices on the ground keep repeating

that the GA and the occupation is much more about process than a single demand or goal. Which does not

exclude demands or goals of course! : -)

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(1) We are creating bottom-up par t i c i pa t o ry democracy as a d i rec t cha l l enge t o t he f a i l ed

representa t i ve democracy in Amer ica and in the w or ld , and are inviting people to rekindle their

political agency and make it a way of life. We created an open society in an otherwise dehumanized zone

where business as usual is the law.

(2) We are building a space where i nd iv idua l and co l lec t i ve autonomy is exerc ised , and

transforming our territoriality while doing it: Liberty Square became a place for social experimentation and the

vision of what our society could be. Therefore, it is paramount that we start experimenting with new f ood

a l ternat ives, renewable e lect r i c i t y generat ion, aesthet ic approaches, sexua l

e th ics , po l i t i ca l -economic a l te rnat ives, e tc .

(3) We are leveraging people power t o c l og t he m ach ine , everyday; by swarming the Financial District

with our marches and continuing with our non-violent, creative civil disobedient acts, we are throwing a pi l low

o n t h e c l o c k w o r k , jamming it. This is the way we will pressure for our demands and objectives once we

zero-in on them. And they do not need to be one, but can be many; and they can be addressed to local

administration (municipality), state, or federal level. We even got our lovely UN bearby to pressure for global

actions.

(4) I t must be dec ent ra l i zed . One overarching demand for the whole global revolution is dangerous. Let

the many occupations that are popping up in America and elsewhere fight for improvements on their

communities and let's coordinate with those different autonomous zones for the things that we all care

about on a global scale.

All of this to say that we are in the right track, but should remain vigilant and self-critical to see if we are selling

out our movement, and the extent that we may go before we can say that the line has being crossed.

All the best,

Alê

--

Alexandre M.S. Carvalho, M.D., MPH

2009 Reynolds Fellow

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Subject: SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Open Letter to the People of the United States and the World (draft)


[a proposed edit of Snafu's draft]

Dear Friend,

For several days, we have held an encampment in the financial district of New York City because we sick of watching America be looted by the financiers and bigbankers. We will no longer tolerate massive unemployment, cuts to public services,foreclosures and despair while CEOs award themselves million dollar bonuses.

We are the General Assembly of New York City and we come from every walk of life.We are the 99% of Americans.

Inspired by the people's assemblies that are happening in every corner of the planet,we are learning to use a consensus decision-making process... we are reinventing

democracy in the streets. We are going slow, because we are going far.

Our encampment is in Liberty Square (Zuccotti Park) and we invite you to join usand help us lay out a vision for a new America that links the struggle for social andeconomic justice to the struggle for real democracy. Just a few of the manyproposals that we are debating, include:

- Halting foreclosures

- Revoking corporate personhood

- Reinstatement of the 1933 Glass-Steagall Act that separates investment banking

from commercial banking.


- Abolition of the Tax Reconciliation Act and immediate pairing of taxes long-termcapital gains with income tax. - Ban on corporate funding to political candidates. Allow each citizen to donate alimited amount of money to a candidate or party of their choice.

- Democratic reform of the electoral system that enables new political parties tocompete on an equal footing with the two major parties.

Ultimately, many of us in the General Assembly think that what matters most at thisstage is to create a shared framework which may enable everyone to speak out, beheard, co-evolve and grow with others. Come experience true people's democracy.It is time to take back our lives.











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On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 2:36 PM, < [email protected]> wrote:I like the demands but the wording is to technical. We need to speak English:

Make it ilegal for banks to make high risk investments. Tax high speed computer trades. Make investors pay

the same tax rate as workers. Amend the constitution to end corporate personhood.

We need people to understand what we are talking about without having to strain their brains or google all

sorts of obscure terms. (I also have the vague feeling a couple of demands are missing.)

On 09/23/11, Snafu<[email protected]> wrote:

Dear Friend,

We are the citizens and non-citizens of the General Assembly of New York City. We come from every walk of life, a

variety of cultural, political, and religious backgrounds. Yet we share the same indignation for the common wealth that

has been pillaged by the global institutions of finance with the complacency of the world’s governments—a looting thathas led to massive unemployment, generalized cuts to public services, despair and resignation. It is the same indignation

that has prompted the people of Greece and Spain to occupy streets and squares on a permanent basis, the people of Egypt

and Tunisia to overthrow their governments, the people of Iceland to nationalize their bank system and rewrite the

constitution.

Over the past few weeks we have begun to share this indignation and listen to each other in a series of public meetings

open to everyone. Freely inspired by the general assemblies that are mushrooming in every corner of the planet we have

begun to bring our differences together through a consensual decision-making process. Such process does not aim at

erasing differences. On the contrary it wants to multiply them so that we may begin to rebuild this nation and this world

anew.

One of the first concrete steps we have decided to take is to initiate on September 17 a peaceful occupation of the

streets and squares surrounding Wall Street. We have set our headquarters in Liberty Square (Zuccotti Park) and

we ask you to join and support us in order to extend and continue this occupation. At the moment we do not havenot formulated a definitive list of demands. However, the Assembly initiated a conversation through which a number of

proposals and perspectives unfolded. The main points that are currently under discussion try to link the struggle for social

and economic justice to the struggle for real democracy:

- Reinstitution of the 1933 Glass-Steagall Act that separates investment banking from commercial banking.


- Abolition of the Tax Reconciliation Act and immediate pairing of taxes long-term capital gains with income tax.

- Abrogation of the extension of the 14th Amendment protection to corporations (end of corporate personhood).

- Ban on corporate funding to political candidates. Introduction of a tax bonus that allows each citizen to donate the same

amount of money to a candidate or party of his or her choice.

- Radical reform of the electoral system, with the introduction of proportional correctives that will enable new political

formations to compete on an equal foot with the two major parties.

These are only some concrete proposals we have begun to discuss in the NYCGA. Many of us think that what truly

matters at this stage is to create a shared framework which may enable everyone to speak out, be heard, co-evolve and

grow with others. If you look through this framework you may not see one defined picture. If you walk through it you

will be amazed at the strange world on the other side. It is time to take back our lives. We ask you to join us now in

Liberty Square or start your own General Assembly in your own town.







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This letter is taking shape. I really like the "we are going slow because we are goingfar" bit. The biggest problem I see is that nobody else knows what a general

assembly is, and thus, nobody knows what our General Assembly is. The folks I'vetalked to about this feel alienated and turned off by jargon that they don'tunderstand.

I will try to start working on a catchy sentence or two that explains what the GA isand how it is leaderless, open to all, how it comprises all the occupiers and thosewho wish to participate.


I like the demands but the wording is to technical. We need to speak English:

Make it ilegal for banks to make high risk investments. Tax high speed computer trades. Make

investors pay the same tax rate as workers. Amend the constitution to end corporate personhood.

We need people to understand what we are talking about without having to strain their brains or

google all sorts of obscure terms. (I also have the vague feeling a couple of demands are

missing.)


Dear Friend,

We are the citizens and non-citizens of the General Assembly of New York City. We come from every walk

of life, a variety of cultural, political, and religious backgrounds. Yet we share the same indignation for the

common wealth that has been pillaged by the global institutions of finance with the complacency of the

world’s governments—a looting that has led to massive unemployment, generalized cuts to public services,

despair and resignation. It is the same indignation that has prompted the people of Greece and Spain to

occupy streets and squares on a permanent basis, the people of Egypt and Tunisia to overthrow their

governments, the people of Iceland to nationalize their bank system and rewrite the constitution.

Over the past few weeks we have begun to share this indignation and listen to each other in a series of

public meetings open to everyone. Freely inspired by the general assemblies that are mushrooming in every

corner of the planet we have begun to bring our differences together through a consensual decision-making

process. Such process does not aim at erasing differences. On the contrary it wants to multiply them so thatwe may begin to rebuild this nation and this world anew.

One of the first concrete steps we have decided to take is to initiate on September 17 a peaceful

occupation of the streets and squares surrounding Wall Street. We have set our headquarters in

Liberty Square (Zuccotti Park) and we ask you to join and support us in order to extend and

continue this occupation. At the moment we do not have not formulated a definitive list of demands.

However, the Assembly initiated a conversation through which a number of proposals and perspectives

unfolded. The main points that are currently under discussion try to link the struggle for social and

economic justice to the struggle for real democracy:

- Reinstitution of the 1933 Glass-Steagall Act that separates investment banking from commercial banking.













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- Abolition of the Tax Reconciliation Act and immediate pairing of taxes long-term capital gains with

income tax.

- Abrogation of the extension of the 14th Amendment protection to corporations (end of corporate

personhood).

- Ban on corporate funding to political candidates. Introduction of a tax bonus that allows each citizen todonate the same amount of money to a candidate or party of his or her choice.

- Radical reform of the electoral system, with the introduction of proportional correctives that will enable

new political formations to compete on an equal foot with the two major parties.

These are only some concrete proposals we have begun to discuss in the NYCGA. Many of us think that

what truly matters at this stage is to create a shared framework which may enable everyone to speak out, be

heard, co-evolve and grow with others. If you look through this framework you may not see one defined

picture. If you walk through it you will be amazed at the strange world on the other side. It is time to take

back our lives. We ask you to join us now in Liberty Square or start your own General Assembly in your

own town.





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From: [email protected] on behalf of diane sare




sorry to add a few words, but on campaign contributions, aside from the Corporateinsanity which should be revoked, citizens and permanent resident aliens are allowed

to donate to political campaigns currently. Do we wish to say only citizens, or stillinclude permanent residents? I think they should be included.

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Jon Good <[email protected]> wrote:This letter is taking shape. I really like the "we are going slow because we aregoing far" bit. The biggest problem I see is that nobody else knows what ageneral assembly is, and thus, nobody knows what our General Assembly is. Thefolks I've talked to about this feel alienated and turned off by jargon that theydon't understand.

I will try to start working on a catchy sentence or two that explains what the GA isand how it is leaderless, open to all, how it comprises all the occupiers and those

who wish to participate.



Make it ilegal for banks to make high risk investments. Tax high speed computer trades. Make

investors pay the same tax rate as workers. Amend the constitution to end corporate

personhood.

We need people to understand what we are talking about without having to strain their brainsor google all sorts of obscure terms. (I also have the vague feeling a couple of demands are

missing.)


Dear Friend,

We are the citizens and non-citizens of the General Assembly of New York City. We come from every

walk of life, a variety of cultural, political, and religious backgrounds. Yet we share the same indignation

for the common wealth that has been pillaged by the global institutions of finance with the complacency

of the world’s governments—a looting that has led to massive unemployment, generalized cuts to publicservices, despair and resignation. It is the same indignation that has prompted the people of Greece and

Spain to occupy streets and squares on a permanent basis, the people of Egypt and Tunisia to overthrow

their governments, the people of Iceland to nationalize their bank system and rewrite the constitution.

Over the past few weeks we have begun to share this indignation and listen to each other in a series of

public meetings open to everyone. Freely inspired by the general assemblies that are mushrooming in

every corner of the planet we have begun to bring our differences together through a consensual

decision-making process. Such process does not aim at erasing differences. On the contrary it wants to

multiply them so that we may begin to rebuild this nation and this world anew.

One of the first concrete steps we have decided to take is to initiate on September 17 a peaceful















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occupation of the streets and squares surrounding Wall Street. We have set our headquarters in

Liberty Square (Zuccotti Park) and we ask you to join and support us in order to extend and

continue this occupation. At the moment we do not have not formulated a definitive list of demands.

However, the Assembly initiated a conversation through which a number of proposals and perspectives

unfolded. The main points that are currently under discussion try to link the struggle for social and

economic justice to the struggle for real democracy:

- Reinstitution of the 1933 Glass-Steagall Act that separates investment banking from commercial

banking.


- Abolition of the Tax Reconciliation Act and immediate pairing of taxes long-term capital gains with

income tax.

- Abrogation of the extension of the 14th Amendment protection to corporations (end of corporate

personhood).

- Ban on corporate funding to political candidates. Introduction of a tax bonus that allows each citizen to

donate the same amount of money to a candidate or party of his or her choice.

- Radical reform of the electoral system, with the introduction of proportional correctives that will enable

new political formations to compete on an equal foot with the two major parties.

These are only some concrete proposals we have begun to discuss in the NYCGA. Many of us think that

what truly matters at this stage is to create a shared framework which may enable everyone to speak out,

be heard, co-evolve and grow with others. If you look through this framework you may not see one

defined picture. If you walk through it you will be amazed at the strange world on the other side. It is

time to take back our lives. We ask you to join us now in Liberty Square or start your own General

Assembly in your own town.






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From: [email protected] on behalf of Snafu


Subject: SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Open Letter to the People of the United States and the World (revised)


Hi all,

thank you everyone for sending feedback on the letter. I revised it adding Micah'spoint on halting of all foreclosures by qualifying it--i.e. I do not want to halt theforeclosed penthouses of CEOs, only those who are victims of predatory lending orcannot afford to pay their mortgages because they have lost their job and healthinsurance (apparently unpaid medical bills are the number 1 reason behindforeclosures). I also incorporated diane's point on donations by taxpayers ratherthan citizens.

I personally disagree on dumbing down the language of the letter to make it moreintelligible. At the current stage, this text is both informative and evocative, imho.We need to speak a language that can speak to the hearts and minds, not only tothe latter.

One idea: why don't we actually design, print and mail out the letter to thousands of people? Perhaps we could use Kickstarter or any other fundraising site to getdonations for this project. Alternatively, we could also print out a few thousandposters.

Cheers,Snafu

---

To: The People of the United StatesFrom: The General Assembly of New York City

Dear Friend,

We are the citizens and non-citizens of the General Assembly of New York City. We comefrom every walk of life, a variety of cultural, political, and religious backgrounds. Yet we

share the same indignation for the common wealth that has been pillaged by the globalinstitutions of finance with the complacency of the world’s governments—a looting that has

led to massive unemployment, generalized cuts to public services, despair and resignation. Itis the same indignation that has prompted the people of Greece and Spain to occupy streets

and squares on a permanent basis, the people of Egypt and Tunisia to overthrow theirgovernments, the people of Iceland to nationalize their bank system and rewrite the

constitution.

Over the past few weeks we have begun to share this indignation and listen to each other in aseries of public meetings open to everyone. Freely inspired by the spontaneous massassemblies that are mushrooming in every corner of the planet we have begun to bring our

differences together through a consensual decision-making process. Such process does notaim at erasing our differences. On the contrary it wants to multiply them so that we may

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One of the first concrete steps we have decided to take is to initiate on September 17 apeaceful occupation of the streets and squares surrounding Wall Street. We have set our

headquarters in Liberty Square (Zuccotti Park) and we ask you to join and support usin order to extend and continue this occupation. At the moment we have not formulated a

definitive list of demands as we think that these should be elaborated through a conversationshould be open to the . However, the Assembly initiated a conversation through which a

number of proposals and perspectives unfolded. The main points that are currently underdiscussion try to link the struggle for social and economic justice to the struggle for real

democracy:

- Halting of all foreclosures due to predatory lending and unpaid medical bills.

- Reinstitution of the 1933 Glass-Steagall Act that separates investment banking from

commercial banking.




- Termination of 14th Amendment protection to corporations (end of corporate personhood).

- Ban on corporate funding to political candidates. Introduction of a tax bonus that allows

each taxpayer to donate the same amount of money to a candidate or party of his or herchoice.

- Radical reform of the electoral system that will enable new political formations to compete

on an equal foot with the two major parties.

These are only some concrete proposals we have begun to discuss in the NYCGA. Many of

us think that what truly matters at this stage is to create a shared framework which mayenable everyone to speak out, be heard, co-evolve and grow with others. If you look through

this framework you may not see one defined picture. If you walk through it you will beamazed at the strange world on the other side. It is time to take back our lives. We ask you to

join us now in Liberty Square or start your own General Assembly in your own town.



On 9/24/11 12:02 AM, diane sare wrote:

sorry to add a few words, but on campaign contributions, aside from theCorporate insanity which should be revoked, citizens and permanentresident aliens are allowed to donate to political campaigns currently. Do



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we wish to say only citizens, or still include permanent residents? I think they should be included.

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Jon Good<[email protected]> wrote:

This letter is taking shape. I really like the "we are going slow becausewe are going far" bit. The biggest problem I see is that nobody else

knows what a general assembly is, and thus, nobody knows what ourGeneral Assembly is. The folks I've talked to about this feel alienatedand turned off by jargon that they don't understand.

I will try to start working on a catchy sentence or two that explainswhat the GA is and how it is leaderless, open to all, how it comprisesall the occupiers and those who wish to participate.



Make it ilegal for banks to make high risk investments. Tax high speed computer

trades. Make investors pay the same tax rate as workers. Amend the

constitution to end corporate personhood.

We need people to understand what we are talking about without having to

strain their brains or google all sorts of obscure terms. (I also have the vague

feeling a couple of demands are missing.)


Dear Friend,

We are the citizens and non-citizens of the General Assembly of New York City. We

come from every walk of life, a variety of cultural, political, and religious backgrounds.

Yet we share the same indignation for the common wealth that has been pillaged by the

global institutions of finance with the complacency of the world’s governments—a

looting that has led to massive unemployment, generalized cuts to public services,

despair and resignation. It is the same indignation that has prompted the people of

Greece and Spain to occupy streets and squares on a permanent basis, the people of

Egypt and Tunisia to overthrow their governments, the people of Iceland to nationalize

their bank system and rewrite the constitution.

Over the past few weeks we have begun to share this indignation and listen to each other

in a series of public meetings open to everyone. Freely inspired by the generalassemblies that are mushrooming in every corner of the planet we have begun to bring

our differences together through a consensual decision-making process. Such process

does not aim at erasing differences. On the contrary it wants to multiply them so that we

may begin to rebuild this nation and this world anew.


peaceful occupation of the streets and squares surrounding Wall Street. We have

set our headquarters in Liberty Square (Zuccotti Park) and we ask you to join and

support us in order to extend and continue this occupation. At the moment we do

not have not formulated a definitive list of demands. However, the Assembly initiated a

conversation through which a number of proposals and perspectives unfolded. The main









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Subject: SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Open Letter to the People of the United States and the World (revised)


Though a letter would be great, you will have the same impact for a lot less $$$ if you focus on getting press/social media coverage and hounding the press to cover

this, or have events/actions that are press worthy. Even established NGOs are notsending out letters unless it is to an older population. If you are really set onsending out letters, focus on the older population, the people who still read and usethe mail-- so you could reach out to orgs like AARP and others to get their maillists... be strategic with the mailings so you don't have any wasted efforts.

ok- see y'all in the street!

On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Snafu <[email protected]> wrote:Hi all,

thank you everyone for sending feedback on the letter. I revised it adding Micah's

point on halting of all foreclosures by qualifying it--i.e. I do not want to halt theforeclosed penthouses of CEOs, only those who are victims of predatory lending orcannot afford to pay their mortgages because they have lost their job and healthinsurance (apparently unpaid medical bills are the number 1 reason behindforeclosures). I also incorporated diane's point on donations by taxpayers ratherthan citizens.

I personally disagree on dumbing down the language of the letter to make it moreintelligible. At the current stage, this text is both informative and evocative, imho.We need to speak a language that can speak to the hearts and minds, not only tothe latter.

One idea: why don't we actually design, print and mail out the letter to thousandsof people? Perhaps we could use Kickstarter or any other fundraising site to getdonations for this project. Alternatively, we could also print out a few thousandposters.

Cheers,Snafu

---

To: The People of the United States

From: The General Assembly of New York City

Dear Friend,

We are the citizens and non-citizens of the General Assembly of New York City. We come

from every walk of life, a variety of cultural, political, and religious backgrounds. Yet weshare the same indignation for the common wealth that has been pillaged by the global

institutions of finance with the complacency of the world’s governments—a looting thathas led to massive unemployment, generalized cuts to public services, despair and











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resignation. It is the same indignation that has prompted the people of Greece and Spain to

occupy streets and squares on a permanent basis, the people of Egypt and Tunisia tooverthrow their governments, the people of Iceland to nationalize their bank system and

rewrite the constitution.

Over the past few weeks we have begun to share this indignation and listen to each other ina series of public meetings open to everyone. Freely inspired by the spontaneous mass

assemblies that are mushrooming in every corner of the planet we have begun to bring ourdifferences together through a consensual decision-making process. Such process does not

aim at erasing our differences. On the contrary it wants to multiply them so that we maybegin to rebuild this nation and this world anew.


peaceful occupation of the streets and squares surrounding Wall Street. We have setour headquarters in Liberty Square (Zuccotti Park) and we ask you to join and

support us in order to extend and continue this occupation. At the moment we have notformulated a definitive list of demands as we think that these should be elaborated through

a conversation should be open to the . However, the Assembly initiated a conversation

through which a number of proposals and perspectives unfolded. The main points that arecurrently under discussion try to link the struggle for social and economic justice to thestruggle for real democracy:

- Halting of all foreclosures due to predatory lending and unpaid medical bills.

- Reinstitution of the 1933 Glass-Steagall Act that separates investment banking fromcommercial banking.




- Termination of 14th Amendment protection to corporations (end of corporatepersonhood).

- Ban on corporate funding to political candidates. Introduction of a tax bonus that allows

each taxpayer to donate the same amount of money to a candidate or party of his or herchoice.

- Radical reform of the electoral system that will enable new political formations tocompete on an equal foot with the two major parties.

These are only some concrete proposals we have begun to discuss in the NYCGA. Manyof us think that what truly matters at this stage is to create a shared framework which mayenable everyone to speak out, be heard, co-evolve and grow with others. If you look

through this framework you may not see one defined picture. If you walk through it youwill be amazed at the strange world on the other side. It is time to take back our lives. We

ask you to join us now in Liberty Square or start your own General Assembly in your owntown.



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the people of Greece and Spain to occupy streets and squares on a permanent basis,

the people of Egypt and Tunisia to overthrow their governments, the people of Iceland

to nationalize their bank system and rewrite the constitution.

Over the past few weeks we have begun to share this indignation and listen to each

other in a series of public meetings open to everyone. Freely inspired by the general

assemblies that are mushrooming in every corner of the planet we have begun to bring

our differences together through a consensual decision-making process. Such process

does not aim at erasing differences. On the contrary it wants to multiply them so that

we may begin to rebuild this nation and this world anew.

One of the first concrete steps we have decided to take is to initiate on September 17

a peaceful occupation of the streets and squares surrounding Wall Street. We

have set our headquarters in Liberty Square (Zuccotti Park) and we ask you to

join and support us in order to extend and continue this occupation. At the

moment we do not have not formulated a definitive list of demands. However, the

Assembly initiated a conversation through which a number of proposals and

perspectives unfolded. The main points that are currently under discussion try to link

the struggle for social and economic justice to the struggle for real democracy:

- Reinstitution of the 1933 Glass-Steagall Act that separates investment banking from

commercial banking.


- Abolition of the Tax Reconciliation Act and immediate pairing of taxes long-term

capital gains with income tax.

- Abrogation of the extension of the 14th Amendment protection to corporations (end

of corporate personhood).

- Ban on corporate funding to political candidates. Introduction of a tax bonus that

allows each citizen to donate the same amount of money to a candidate or party of his

or her choice.

- Radical reform of the electoral system, with the introduction of proportional

correctives that will enable new political formations to compete on an equal foot with

the two major parties.

These are only some concrete proposals we have begun to discuss in the NYCGA.

Many of us think that what truly matters at this stage is to create a shared framework

which may enable everyone to speak out, be heard, co-evolve and grow with others.

If you look through this framework you may not see one defined picture. If you walk

through it you will be amazed at the strange world on the other side. It is time to take

back our lives. We ask you to join us now in Liberty Square or start your own General

Assembly in your own town.






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I love it but it is really too wordy this needs to be cut by at least 50% if anyone is

going to read this

On Sep 23, 2011 5:23 PM, "Snafu" <[email protected]> wrote:>> Dear Friend,>> We are the citizens and non-citizens of the General Assembly of New York > City. We come from every walk of life, a variety of cultural, political,> and religious backgrounds. Yet we share the same indignation for the> common wealth that has been pillaged by the global institutions of > finance with the complacency of the world's governments---a looting that> has led to massive unemployment, generalized cuts to public services,

> despair and resignation. It is the same indignation that has prompted> the people of Greece and Spain to occupy streets and squares on a> permanent basis, the people of Egypt and Tunisia to overthrow their> governments, the people of Iceland to nationalize their bank system and> rewrite the constitution.>> Over the past few weeks we have begun to share this indignation and> listen to each other in a series of public meetings open to everyone.> Freely inspired by the general assemblies that are mushrooming in every> corner of the planet we have begun to bring our differences together> through a consensual decision-making process. Such process does not aim> at erasing differences. On the contrary it wants to multiply them so

> that we may begin to rebuild this nation and this world anew.>> One of the first concrete steps we have decided to take is to*initiate> on September 17 a peaceful occupation of the streets and squares> surrounding Wall Street. We have set our headquarters in Liberty Square> (Zuccotti Park) and we ask you to join and support us in order to extend> and continue this occupation.* At the moment we do not have not> formulated a definitive list of demands. However, the Assembly initiated> a conversation through which a number of proposals and perspectives> unfolded. The main points that are currently under discussion try to> link the struggle for social and economic justice to the struggle for> real democracy:

>> - Reinstitution of the 1933 Glass-Steagall Act that separates investment> banking from commercial banking.>> - Introduction of a Robin Hood Tax (or Tobin Tax) on all financial> transactions.>> - Abolition of the Tax Reconciliation Act and immediate pairing of taxes> long-term capital gains with income tax.>











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> - Abrogation of the extension of the 14th Amendment protection to> corporations (end of corporate personhood).>> - Ban on corporate funding to political candidates. Introduction of a> tax bonus that allows each citizen to donate the same amount of money to> a candidate or party of his or her choice.>

> - Radical reform of the electoral system, with the introduction of > proportional correctives that will enable new political formations to> compete on an equal foot with the two major parties.>> These are only some concrete proposals we have begun to discuss in the> NYCGA. Many of us think that what truly matters at this stage is to> create a shared framework which may enable everyone to speak out, be> heard, co-evolve and grow with others. If you look through this> framework you may not see one defined picture. If you walk through it> you will be amazed at the strange world on the other side. It is time to> take back our lives. We ask you to join us now in Liberty Square or> start your own General Assembly in your own town.

>> In solidarity and struggle,>> The General Assembly of New York City>>



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From: [email protected] on behalf of Amina Bibi


Subject: SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Printing flyers


Can't print thousands, but can print around 100 to 200.

Amina

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:46 AM, MAd Hatter <[email protected]>wrote:












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Subject: SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Printing flyers


I was only able to crank out 100, which I left on the table by the front of the GA. I'lltry and print more once my boss has gone home. Nobody else in my office is

sympathetic to the occupation so I've got to be sneaky.

Rock on,

Jon

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 2:46 PM, MAd Hatter <[email protected]>wrote:












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Subject: SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] proposal: No Corporate Donations / No Advertising


On the one hand, it's fun to take money from corporations and use it against them.On the other hand, there starts to be a thing called "mission creep," in which our

operational funding was dependent on keeping cordial relationships with folks whoare actively doing evil and who we're actively working to destroy/radically change.

A quandry indeed. This will be a long GA discussion.

Solidarity,

Jon

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Gabriel Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:So I suppose this means I should stop pursuing the Chase sponsorship?

In all seriousness, I'd mildly oppose this in its current form; Idon't think it would be the worst idea to have the youtube ads on ourvideos up on that website; help make the occupation a bit moreself-sufficient. We shouldn't have paid ads on occupywallst.org orsuch similar websites either, even forBob's-Super-Independent-Organic-Vegan-Non-Imperialist Foot Powder;that's just not the greatest organizational website design, generally.

--glj

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Micah White <[email protected]>wrote:> I'd like to propose the following, and would appreciate it if someone could> take this to the GA meeting.>> Proposal: "We believe that corporate money should not be allowed to> influence democracy. Therefore, the General Assembly will not accept> donations, financial or otherwise, from corporations. Furthermore, we will> not allow corporate advertising to be placed on websites affiliated with our> occupation. We will resist efforts by corporations to co-opt our movement> towards real democracy in America."

>















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+1000

On 09/22/11, Micah White<[email protected]> wrote:

I'd like to propose the following, and would appreciate it if someone could take this to the GA meeting.

Proposal: "We believe that corporate money should not be allowed to influence democracy. Therefore, the

General Assembly will not accept donations, financial or otherwise, from corporations. Furthermore, we will not

allow corporate advertising to be placed on websites affiliated with our occupation. We will resist efforts by

corporations to co-opt our movement towards real democracy in America."









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No offense Micah, we completely understand where you are coming from, but

in the process you will limit how your word gets out. Is publishing in thenewspaper or sending a press release not accepting something from acorporation? We cant control the money or advertising from the press andtheir will be corporate advertising on those pages.

Excellent ideas, but we need to think things through so we don't look likehypocrites!

- Tom

Congratulations on a beautifully played cock block Micah,

By the way, I love the latest issue, I must grudgingly admit that your

kill cap game is an excellent idea! Lot a good potentialthere...seriously I'm not being sarcastic.

And I wish you the very best of luck with sales hypocrite!

~Harrison

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:47 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:+1000

On 09/22/11, Micah White<[email protected]> wrote:I'd like to propose the following, and would appreciate it if someonecould take this to the GA meeting.

Proposal: "We believe that corporate money should not be allowed toinfluence democracy. Therefore, the General Assembly will not acceptdonations, financial or otherwise, from corporations. Furthermore, we willnot allow corporate advertising to be placed on websites affiliated withour occupation. We will resist efforts by corporations to co-opt ourmovement towards real democracy in America."









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So I suppose this means I should stop pursuing the Chase sponsorship?

In all seriousness, I'd mildly oppose this in its current form; Idon't think it would be the worst idea to have the youtube ads on ourvideos up on that website; help make the occupation a bit moreself-sufficient. We shouldn't have paid ads on occupywallst.org orsuch similar websites either, even forBob's-Super-Independent-Organic-Vegan-Non-Imperialist Foot Powder;that's just not the greatest organizational website design, generally.

--glj

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Micah White <[email protected]> wrote:> I'd like to propose the following, and would appreciate it if someone could> take this to the GA meeting.

>> Proposal: "We believe that corporate money should not be allowed to> influence democracy. Therefore, the General Assembly will not accept> donations, financial or otherwise, from corporations. Furthermore, we will> not allow corporate advertising to be placed on websites affiliated with our> occupation. We will resist efforts by corporations to co-opt our movement> towards real democracy in America.">









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Subject: SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] proposal: Open Letter to America


I would like to request that in this day and age with so many people withinformation on their phones, that someone who is in the GA read this to the group

and ask them to consider it for review. We have enough attention and support thatwe could likely get this into every major paper in the world tomorrow.

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Luis Moreno-Caballud<[email protected]> wrote:

I like it a lot too, and hope the GA can come out with something similar.

On Sep 22, 2011, at 12:37 PM, Marisa Holmes wrote:

> Micah,> This is a wonderful draft.

> However, the the general assembly is going thru this very process> of drafting a statement.> It should be ready this afternoon.>> Marisa>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Micah White <[email protected]>wrote:>> Hi everyone,>>>> I have a proposal: maybe it would help if we drafted an open letter to the>> American People.

>>>> I wrote a rough draft. What do you think? If this is something that you'd>> like to see the GA agree on, please say so.>>>> Micah>>>>>>>> A MESSAGE TO AMERICA FROM THE PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY IN ZUCOTTI PARK >>>> Dear fellow Americans,>>

>> We are assembled in Zucotti Park - which we've renamed Liberty Plaza - in>> the financial district of New York, because we believe that the American>> economy is heading in the wrong direction and we have a few ideas for what>> to do about it.>>>> There is a feeling shared by a growing number of people on the streets of >> the world that the global economy has become a kind of Ponzi scheme, a>> global casino, run by and for the benefit of the 1%.>>>> We believe that it is possible to inject justice into the global economy. We













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>> have come up with the following list of things that can be done right now to>> rejuvenate democracy and economic justice in our country:>>>> • Halt foreclosures for the unemployed, sick and elderly>>>> • Increase funding to public services by taxing the richest 1%>>

>> • Forgive all student loan debt>>>> • Reinstate the Glass-Steagall Act in order to control speculation
