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SEE PAGE 31 FOR FURTHER VINTAGE AIRCRAFT ASSOCIATION INFORMAT ION
STRAIGHT AND LEVEUButchJoyce
2 AlRVENTURE AWARDS
4 VAA NEWS HGFrautschy
5 AEROMAIL
6 A MIRACLE OF THE AIR James Whittaker
9 MY FIRST AIRPLANE EvCassagneres
12 TYPE CLUB NOTES RobertG Lock
14 A FIVE-YEAR PAINT JOB Budd Davisson
19 WHAT OUR MEMBERS ARE RESTORING H G Frautschy amp Norm Petersen
21 MYSTERY PLANE HG Frautschy
24 PASS IT TO BUCK Buck Hilbert
27 NEW MEMBERS
28 CALENDAR
30 CLASSIFIEDS
wwwvintageaircraftorg
Publisher TOM POBEREZNY
Editor-ill-Orie scon SPANGLER
Executive Director Editor HENRY G FRAUTSCHY
VAA A dmillislralive A isistant THERESA BOOKS
Executive Editor MIKE DIFRISCO
Contributing Editors JOHN UNDERWOOD BUDD DAVISSON
A rtPhoto Layout BETH BLANCK
Photography Staff JIM KOEPNICK LEEANN ABRAMS
AdvertisillgEditorial Assistalll ISABELLE WISKE
Ive been attending EAA AirVenture Oshkosh for 29 years and this years event was one of the best The anshytique aircraft were some of the best that we have seen
Restorations just continue to get better each year Years ago when you walked the flight line youd see a
wide range of antique aircraft restorations Some were good some were so-so and a few were outstanding As the movement has progressed the number of excellent restorations has continued to increase When you talk to members on the flight line a shift in attitude toward restoration is also evident-people seem to take their stewshyardship of these magnificent old aircraft quite seriously
That attitude is now permeating the ownership ranks of Classic category airplanes as ever-increasing numbers of classic airplanes are appearing on fly-in flight lines all over the country Sure there are still plenty of airplanes someshytimes referred to in classified ads as good fliers airplanes that members have not yet restored to near factory condishytion For others a good clean restoration doesnt have to be a factory original but one that is useful for them Exshytended ski tubes extra fuel tanks and items that increase the airplanes utility are often what people add to their airshyplanes Theres plenty of room for all in vintage aviation and youll often see examples of every style and level of restoration at EAA AirVenture and your local fly-in
Still its funny how many of us still dont think of classhysic airplanes as old The youngest classic is now coming up on its 46th birthday I guess you could pin a lot of that attitude on the basic utility these great airshyplanes still offer More than once in recent times Ive heard of a person looking seriously at one of the newer lightplanes and while researching discovered that a reshycently restored classic offered more utility for less cost The choices for an individual who wants four seats in the airplane are even more limited Take for example a 1950 Cessna 170 It offers a 115 mph cruise speed 8 gph and four seats a great going places machine But we do have to accept that it is old Since it left the runway at Wichita 51 years have passed
The Contemporary category (1956-1965) is right on its heels with the youngest of its planes firmly in middle age with 36 years under their wheels The FAA and other agenshycies consider aircraft old or an antique at 25 years and owners of these younger airplanes are also coming to grips with the subject of aging aircraft Aging aircraft are a highshypriority issue at the FAA and were not just talking about old 727s Our airplanes and their maintenance and supshy
s EL by ESPIE BUTCH JOYCE
PRESIDENT VINTAGE AIRCRAFT ASSOCIATION
port are on their agenda and were working closely with EAA to be sure our input is added and were kept abreast of the latest developments
As contemporary aircraft owners are beginning to realshyize that their airplanes are older too were seeing restorations like Bragdons Cessna 210 Oune 2001 Vinshytage Airplane) These are enormously useful airplanes that can be used daily if necessary but they still look great on the fly-in flight line Does that sound familiar classic owners
It takes time for these restorations to come to the surshyface Ive even had to come to grips with it My Luscombe is one of my favorite airplanes but I cant use it for all my flying needs I also own a Beech Baron that fits in the Contemporary category Its 37 years old now and I conshysider it equal in my desired capabilities to a new Baron It will do most any task better than its new brother and its cheaper too I have no problem going to the hangar loadshying it up and flying to the islands or anywhere else I probably wont be doing this in the Luscombe but I have thought that it would be fun to do so At least it would not take Customs long to inspect the Luscombe With the realization that the Baron can now be judged just like any classic or antique Ive embarked on a custom reconditionshying program
In doing so Ive gained a new pride of ownership in my Contemporary class aircraft When I land somewhere new on a cross-country the tower might ask What year is your Baron It s nice to pull into the FBO for fuel or an overnight stay and have the line guys tell you how great the airplane looks I appreciate it when they ask if Id like to park it in their hangar overnight I think that they enshyjoy seeing good-looking airplanes too
One thing to keep in mind is that most of these younger people who are working at the FBOs now cut their teeth on the contemporary class of aircraft Just like many of us long desired a Travel Air or Cub of our own to fly in the future contemporary aircraft will be the ones they will want to own
The EAA Vintage Aircraft Association has taken the lead in highlighting the issues facing older aircraft and working with the type clubs weve gained an ear at the FAA to discuss these issues Were fortunate to have peoshyple working for the FAA such as Mike Gallagher who not only understand the issues were confronted with but also are actively working with us to help solve the problems We will have more on these subjects in future issues Lets all pull in the same direction for the good of aviation Remember we are better together Join us and have it all
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 1
EAA AIRVENTURE 2001 VAA AWARDS Gold Lindy Grand Champion-Antique 1940 Piper J-5A Cub Cruiser NC329S5 Carl Brasser Brentwood Tennessee
Grand Champion-Classic Grumman Mallard NC2950 Steve Hamilton Carson City Nevada
Grand Champion-Contemporary Beech 35-B33 Debonair NS622M James Lynch Lawton Oklahoma
Silver Lindy Vintage Reserve Grand Champion-Antique Boeing Stearman E75 N713WW Scott White Orient Ohio
Vintage Reserve Grand Champion-Classic Aeronca 11AC Chief N9526E Paul Gould Sardinia Ohio
Vintage Reserve Grand Champion- Contemporary Piper PA-22-10S Colt N5549Z Dennis Beecher Martinsburg Pennsylvania
Bronze Lindy Antique
Champion-World War II Military Trainer or Liaison Aircraft Stearman N2S-3 N131 5N Douglas Devries Redlands California
Champion-Transport Category Boeing S307 Stratoliner NC19903-NASM Stratoliner Restoration Crew Federal Way Washington
Champion-Customized Aircraft Boeing Stearman E75N1 N3976B
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David Bates Faribault Minnesota
Champion-Replica Vickers Vimy FB27 NX71 MY Peter McMillan San Francisco California
Champion Golden Age (191S-1927) Ryan M-1 N2073 Andrew King Lovettsville Virginia
Champion-Silver Age (1928-1932) Fairchild FC-2W2 N13934 Greg Herrick Jackson Wyoming
Champion Bronze Age (1933-1941) Spartan Executive NC17667 Kent Blankenburg Groveland California
Champion World War II Era 1943-1945 Beech D17S Staggerwing N9597H E P Wiesner Castle Rock Colorado
Bronze Lindy Classic Best Class I (0-80 hp) Mooney Mite M1S N4149E Ben Workman Zanesville Ohio
Best Class II (81-150 hp) Cessna 140 NC2437V Michael Midtgaard Minneapolis Minnesota
Best Class III (151-235 hp) Ryan Navion N4012K Robert Kane Wilton California
Best Class IV 236 hp amp up Cessna 195 N2134C George Dray Novato California
Best Custom Class A Taylorcraft BC-12D N39911 Lee Bowden Independence Iowa
Best Custom Class B Cessna 140 N773SH Marty Lochman Newalla Oklahoma
Best Custom Class C Piper PA-1S-150 N75SSE Loren Kopseng Bismarck North Dakota
Best Custom Class 0 Cessna 195 N9S54A Martin Madden Somis California
Bronze Lindy Contemporary Beech H35 N547SD Larry VanDam Riverside California
TEXTRON FINANCIAL AVIATION FINANCE DIVISION JUDGING SPONSORS CHOICE Stinson SR-6A NC15127 Max amp Rene Davis Waconia Minnesota
Vintage Plaques Antique Outstanding Customized Aircraft Waco ZPF-7 N29962 Leslie Whittlesey Coto De Caza California
Runner-Up Customized Aircraft Boeing Stearman A75J1 N570SN Charles Luigs Bandera Texas
Silver Age (1928-1932) Outstanding Open Cockpit Biplane Great Lakes 2T-1A NS41H Cameron Saure Reynolds North Dakota
Outstanding Closed Cockpit Monoplane Monocoupe N543W Robert Coolbaugh Manassas Virginia
Runner-Up Closed Cockpit Monoplane Curtiss Robin N263E
Glenn Peck Maryland Heights Missouri
Bronze Age (1933-1941) Runner-Up Closed Cockpit Monoplane Spartan Executive NC17616 Ken amp Lorraine Morris Poplar Grove Illinois
Outstanding Closed Cockpit Biplane Waco ZOC-6 NC16203 Les Cashmere McAlester Oklahoma
Outstanding Open Cockpit Biplane DeHaviliand Tiger Moth DH82A N8879 Michael Williams Columbus Indiana
World War II Era (1942-1945) Runner-Up Closed Cockpit Biplane Beechcraft Staggerwing N1532M Bob Strunk Union Kentucky
Vintage Plaques Classic Best Aeronca Champ Aeronca Champ 7 AC N81585 Wayne Raye Stockbridge Georgia
Best Beechcraft Twin Beech D18S N213SP Alan Wright Naples Florida
Best Bellanca Bellanca 14-19 N6563N Charles Should is Rapid City South Dakota
Best Cessna 120140 Cessna 140 N89221 J Young Hudson Wisconsin
Best Cessna 170180 Cessna 170 N4034V John Nielsen Bloomer W isconsin
Best Cessna 190195 Cessna 195B N195SB Scott Boynton Campbell Hall New York
Best Ercoupe Ercoupe N2679
David Abrams Salem New Hampshire
Best Luscombe Luscombe 8A NC45504 James Zazas Carthage North Carolina
Best Navion Ryan Navion N4891 K Charles Stites Chapel Hill North Carolina
Best Piper J-3 Piper J-3 Cub NC88113 Willard Beatty Jr Holly Springs North Carolina
Best Piper Other Piper PA-18 N160CW Charles Wiplinger Inver Grove Height Minnesota
Best Stinson Stinson 108-3 N6355M Neil Logerwell Kent Washington
Best Swift Swift GC-1 B N3378K Jared Smith Huntington Beach California
Best Taylorcraft Taylorcraft BC12D N96841 Elmer Marting Monona Iowa
Best Limited Production DeHaviliand Beaver N34EB Paul Oakes Wasilla Alaska
Most Unique Emigh Trojan N8351 H Jerry Petro Williamsburg Virginia
Preservation Aeronca Chief NC4128E Edward Maxwell Louisville Kentucky
Vintage Plaques Contemporary Outstanding Beech Single Engine Bonanza N35 N1397Z Richard amp Dawn Barnett Waldron Arkansas
Outstanding Beech Multiengine Beech G18S N933GM Carla Payne Fort Worth Texas
Outstanding Cessna 150 Cessna 150 N7835E Robert Unternaehrer Brunswick Missouri
Outstanding Cessna 170172175 Cessna 172C N1499Y Randall Hockenberry Ft Wayne Indiana
Outstanding Cessna 180182-210 Cessna 182B N8407T Roger Schmidt Big Bear Lake California
Outstanding Piper PA-22 Tri Pacer PA-22 Tri-Pacer N9508D Tim Lewis amp John Brandon Jonesboro Arkansas
Outstanding Piper PA-24 Comanche PA-24 Comanche N45MB Kelly Wright Spokane Washington
Outstanding Mooney Mooney N6402U Raymond Miller Colorado Springs Colorado
Outstanding Limited Production Aircoupe F-1A N3044G Jack Arthur Des Moines Iowa
Outstanding Custom Class I Single Engine (0-160 hp) Piper PA-22-150 N6043D James Douglass Kennedyville Missouri
Outstanding Custom Class III Single Engine (231 hp amp higher) Piper PA-24 N8071 P Jim Simmons Nashville Tennessee
Outstanding Class IV Multi Engine Piper PA-23 N3187P Michael Luigs Bandera Texas
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 3
VAANEWS compiled by HG Frautschy
COVERS FRONT COVER Ronnie Cox and Greg Davis of Fort Lauderdale Florida cruise above Floridas Gulf Coast waters with their 1962 250 Comanche EM photo by Jim Koepnick shot with a Canon EOS1 n equipped with an 80-200 mm lens on 100 ASA Fuji slide film EM Cessna 210 photo plane flown by Bruce Moore
BACK COVER Fay Gillis Summer 29 is the title of Frank Warrens acrylic painting awardshyed an Excellence ribbon in the 2001 EAA Sport Aviation Art competition It depicts a young Fay beside a Curtiss Fledgling at Garden City Long Island in August 1929 A month later she was forced to bailout of a Fledgling becoming the second female memshyber of the Caterpillar Club Fay was a charshyter member of the 99sFrank Warren can be reached at fljlwearthlinknet or by calling 805967-5473
SPORT PI LOT
ALMOST READY FOR NPRM
EAA President Tom Poberezny has written to FAA Administrator Jane Garvey and US Secretary of Transshyportation Norman Mineta asking for their personal intervention to expedite the return of the proposed sport pilot package back to the FAA one of the many steps in the process headed toshywards the publication of a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM)
Tom wrote Over the last eight years a tremendous volume of work-by both the government and the private sector-has gone into moving this complex regulatory package to its current status We reshyquest that you keep the same level of emphasis on completing the final steps to publication by facilitating every opportunity for expeditious handling by the Office of Manageshyment and Budget
Tom reiterated EAAs appreciation for DOTs and FAAs public comshymitment and acknowledgement of [sport pilots] positive impact reshy
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During EAA AirVenture Oshkosh the Vintage Aircraft Association and EAAs Government Services office hosted a meeting with the FAAs Mike Gallagher and Tom McSweeney (right) along with most of the type club representatives who attended the Convention Aging airshycraft issues were the primary topics of discussion In particular the thorny issues concerning the release of technical information by type certificate holders and especially the disposition of that same information related to long dormant type certificates was discussed As pointed out by Gallagher the FAA cannot legally release information unless the type certificate has been surrendered
Also discussed was the ongoing process of Airworthiness Concern Sheets (ACS) and the general consensus was that the program is working well to head off potential Airworthiness Directives Both Gallagher and McSweeney pointed out that only half of the ACS issued during 2001 had become Airworthiness Directives In previous years they all would have become ADs
An ACS issued on the spring steel main landing gear installed on older Cessnas was the subject of another meeting hosted by EAAs Government Programs specialist Randy Hansen and the Cessna Pilots Association President John Frank The meeting was intended to gather firsthand information about any difficulties being experienced with the gear by owneroperashytors It was their opinion that the difficulties highlighted by the FAAs sheet were the result of operations outside of what was considered normal and that the issue could be properly dealt with by adherence to a Cessna service bulletin EAA and the Cessna Pilots Association used input from that meeting to help formulate the response to the ACS
garding increased safety and imshyproved economy of recreational aviation (You can read Toms letters on the EAA sport pilot website at wwwsportpiotorg)
The proposed sport pilot rule has the potential to impact many vintage airshyplane owneroperators who may be able to operate their aircraft under a new set of rules For more detailed inshyfonnation you can read Sport Pilot For the Vintage Airman in the June issue of Vintage Airplane or you can read it online at wwwvintageaircra(torg
Volunteers make the world of EAA and VAA happen and one of this years enhancements to the vintage area was the installation of a new windsock frame and sock Behind the scenes in EAAs workshops a number of volunteers spend their summers helping us spruce up the place and Barb Lowell was kind enough to sew up the new bright red windsock featured in the August issue Barb and her husband John have been coming to EAA to volunteer for more than eight years They hail from Bulverde Texas After their arrival in May Barb and her fellow volunteers in the sewing room repair the flags and banners that decorate the EAA grounds and sewing replacement wind socks Later (n the summer they help decorate the EAA grounds by planting thousands of flowers on the convention grounds Our thanks to Barb and the many others who spend their summers helping us here at EAA and VAA
VAAAEROMAIL
Vintage Aircraft Markings Comments
Your article on markings is very good and needed I might add We run into these issues all the time Mostly with FAA inspectors oddly enough who dont run into anshytiques all that often I thought Id highlight a couple of points that may also be worthy of mention
Many owners confuse the use of the c or R or X on their airshyplanes with use on the registrations or other permanent records such as 337s The regulation refers to disshyplay on the aircraft but no other use And the FAA continues to use the common N number without the additional letter on all documents Sometimes a registration will pass with the extra letter but usually they will request that it be drafted without
Note paragraph 4522(b) the part that says may be operated without displaying marks in accordance with paragraphs 4521 and 4523 through 4533 if (then it goes on to detail the display of the C R X L etc) What this means is if the aircraft is experimental for instance the 2-inch high (or more) EXPERIshyMENTAL placard need not be displayed This is the one the inshyspectors always miss They go right for the cabin entry or passenger cockpit and look for the EXPERIshyMENTAL billboard Not having to put this on the airplane is a real plus for an owner with an aircraft that has the same external configurashy
tion as an aircraft built at least 30 years ago in other words a replica
Hope this is helpful Im probably preaching to the choir here as you always publish inSightful comment on the FARs
Roy Redman (VAA 777) Faribault Minnesota
I have just finished reading Vinshytage Aircraft Markings and would like to make this comment The FAA is not judging our airplanes I have judged EAA aircraft at our local flyshyins for more than a decade although not at Oshkosh All of the informashytion I have or have seen concerning judging stresses authenticity Over the years I have rebuilt several airshycraft that are now antiques It distresses me greatly to see a beautishyfully restored aircraft and then have the restorer take a shortcut and put on modern numbers This is not authentic as the aircraft did not come out of the factory this way If I inspect the airplane you can be sure that I will go over it minutely and nitpick I would suggest that in fushyture gUidelines to judges that authenticity be again stressed I wouldnt go so far as to require Grade A cotton although this of course is what was probably origishynally used
John Beebe (VAA 19313) White Stone Virginia
During the judging process all markshyings on the aircraft both the registration numbers and smaller placshyards and decals are judged on their authenticity The guidelines published for use by EAAVAA judges stress that concept Heres what the guidelines have to say
I FORWARD Throughout these standards
will be found the one concept that reshyflects the opinion of the majority of those individuals contacted during the development of these guidelines That concept is authenticity The standards are constructed to encourage the indishyvidual to complete and maintain a factory fresh aircraft If the individshyuals desire is to deviate from this goal for personal whim or other reasons the cost ofnot conforming to pure aushythenticity is known in advance A portion of the guidelines pertain[s] to the documentation of authenticity as it relates to the aircraft The exhibitor is encouraged to prove the authenticity with pictures letters factory specificashytions or any of the means which will alleviate the need for judges opinion in determining authenticity
For the complete text ofEAA s Judgshying Standards manual you can buy a copy by calling EAA Membership Sershyvices at 800843-3612 or you can view the pages on EAA s website at wwwairventureorg 200ljudging -HG Frautschy
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 5
AMIR Originally published in the September 1924 issue of The Wide World Magazine
BY JAM~S WHITTAH~R
ILLUSTRAT~D BY FE HIL~Y
On February 17th last at Ellington Field Houston Texas Gates Flying Circus
a well-known American company of stunt flyers was giving an exhibishytion for the benefit of the Thirty-sixth Division Air Service of the American Army One of the scheduled items was a daring parashychute descent by a y~)Ung chorus girl Rosalie Gordon It was not the first time she had essayed the feat having worked with the Gates Circus on the Pacific coast the previous year
Dressed in a white satin pilots uniform with little red buttons she ascended in a plane driven by Clyde Pangborn one of the Circus finest pilots Behind her in the rear cockpit sat Milton Girton who was to assist her in her preparations for the leap
It had rained in the morning the sky was full of low-lying clouds and at two thousand feet it was decided that she should make her leap The parachute was in a container tied to the landing gear of the plane with a short rope another rope connected the parachute with the girl who stepped coolly out onto the wing inshy
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spected the harness about her waist to see that it was properly adjusted and then jumped off into space
For a dozen feet or so she dropped headlong momentarily expecting the canopy of the parachute to open as usual and check her swift descent Instead she suddenly felt a terrific jerk and found that she was hanging suspended underneath the aeroshyplane trailing after it at the end of the ropes attached to the harness about her waist Her light weight was not enough to spring the trap of the parachute and a ring at the edge of the canvas canopy to which one of
the supporting ropes was attached had caught on a rod projecting from the landing gear From this fixture Miss Gordon now swung helplessly above the heads of the crowd
It was a fearful predicament Unshyable to crawl back or to free the parachute it seemed that certain death awaited the poor girl As long as the petrol lasted she was comparshyatively safe-unless she became detached and the parachute still failed to open-but once the plane was forced to land she would inshyeVitably be dragged to death beneath it Unless she could somehow be got
back onto the plane nothing could save her
Below the crowd of five thousand people looked on for a while uncomshyprehendingly To them it was at present all part of the show but the personnel of the Circus and the other practical aviators on the ground realshyized only too well the tragedy that was threatening Orders rang out sharp and decisive and half-a-dozen planes took to the air circling vainly about the swinging girl in an atshytempt to solve the problem The onlookers began to understand that something was seriously amiss Planes of the type used-this one was equipped with a 180 hp Hisso motor-land at express speed Thirty miles an hour is the minimum which meant that Rosalie would be dashed to pieces and her body manshygled beneath the tailskid directly as the machine came down As it was the anxious Pangborn having swooped earthwards to let those beshylow see her predicament the helpless girl hung perilously near the rough ground
Plane after plane with men lying out along the wing surfaces knife in hand hoping to cut her loose if posshysible swept past Pangborns machine risking imminent collision All of them however failed as did the frantic efforts of Girton himself who crawled out onto the landing gear and for half an hour battled desshyperately to pull the girl up to a perch on the axle and comparative safety But a previous hour of daredevil stunts had weakened him and he found his strength insufficient for the task
Then it was that Thompson one of the would-be rescuers swooped ground wards with his plane Someshything white fluttered from his machine as he rose again with a roar An official picked the object up-a piece of cardboard on which was the scribbled message Send Freddy up with a rope Will pick him up He can help pull her Up
It was cryptic enough to the uninishytiated but those who knew realized
INSTINCTIV~LY
PANGBORN AND
THOMPSON R~AD
WHAT WAS IN ON~
ANOTH~RS MINDS AND
SOON TH~ TWO
MACHIN~S W~R~
SAILING SID~-BY-SID[
WING ALMOST
TOUCHING WING
that one of the most daring feats ever attempted was to be put into operation to save the apparently doomed girl
Presently Thompson came to earth and into his plane climbed Freddy Lund a former member of the Circus but now in commercial life Up toward Pangborns machine with that helpless figure dangling beshyneath it Thompsons aeroplane shot until it was flying close below Lund climbing out on the upper wing reached frantically up in an effort to grasp Rosalies feet in the hope that their combined weight would release the catch of the parachute and let them both down to safety But the bumpy rise and fall of the planes made the maneuver impossible and it was speedily evident that another and even more desperate method would have to be tried if the girl was to be saved
Instinctively Pangborn and Thompson read what was in one anshyothers minds and soon the two machines were sailing side-by-side wing almost touching wing Then Lund swung himself down a stage lower and the crowd below gasped Hundreds of binoculars showed what was to be attempted and men and women sank on their knees and prayed openly that the fearless men aloft might be able to carry out their purpose
Just when it seemed that the two machines must become locked in a death grip which would send both of them hurtling to destruction Lund stretched out a hand grasped a strut on Pangborns plane and leapt across the gulf For an instant he swayed slid almost fell and then a great shout went up Hes done it Hes done it
It was a wonderful effort Usually this change from plane to plane pershyilous enough at the best of times is only attempted with nonskid strips on the wings and rubber shoes on the feet of the aviator Lund made it with slippery leather-soled boots on wings like shining glass
Only he knew how near he was to failure as a matter of fact his feet slid away beneath him but he clung to the strut with all his strength and so saved himself A white-faced man down below dropped his field glasses and gasped
Its a miracle he said solemnly But the rescue was far from being
accomplished yet Recovering himshyself Lund scrambled into the cockpit and then out of that and down onto the landing gear where Girton was still continuing his vain efforts to haul the girl up Together they heaved and strained at the rope but it was quickly seen from below that their combined efforts were inshysufficient and a groan broke from the crowd when Lund was seen laboshyriously climbing back into the cockpit
Theyve failed Theyve failed The cry went up
It certainly seemed so and matshyters looked grave for the anxious officials of the Circus knew that the sands of time were fast running out in another direction The petrol supshyply carried by the plane was limited Once it was exhausted and landing was imperative in which case nothshying could save the girl if she remained in her present position Many of the offiCials in fact were convinced that she was as good as dead already
Not so Pangborn and Lund how-
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 7
After the ordeal Rosalie Gordon is seen in the centre with Lund who rescued her on the right The two other aviators are Pangborn and Thompson
came to earth in perfect fashion The onlookers released from the
restraint of their pent-up emotions at once surged wildly forward on to the ground but mounted attendants and armed police drove them back and an ambulance came dashing up with screeching horn
From underneath the plane crawled three disheveled but almost unhurt figures The two aviators had taken the slight shock of a perfect landing on their broad backs and they rose to their feet stiffly specks of blood on their faces and wrists from cuts caused by the rope from which Rosalie Gordon had been susshypended Daredevil flyers though they were both they and Pangborn showed the strain of the last halfshyhour All of them were white-faced and trembling
I was afraid the petrol would give out said Pangborn I kept circling over a little lake out there I thought that if we were forced to land it would be better than the ground
He walked over and measured the spirit in his tank and his face was eloquent He had just three minutes supply left
At first the little actress laughed hysterically but when a friend Esshyther Gray rushed up to her and embraced her she broke down and cried
So ended one of the biggest thrills and one of the finest exhibitions of heroism in the history of aviation Few flying men possess sufficient skill to carry out the work of the resshycue accomplished by Pangborn Lund and Girton-fewer still pershyhaps would have had the courage to attempt it
Seven years later Clyde Pangborn would be world famous for being the pilot on the first nonstop crossshying of the Pacific but in 1924 his cool head helped save a young lady parachutist from certain death
ever A few shouted words between them and then Lund took over the controls while Pangborn descended the frail under-rigging supports and joined the indefatigable Girton on the landing gear
Pangborn was slight of build but marvelously strong an open-air life and constant exercise had given him sinews of steel Crooking one leg over the axle and hanging on with one hand he slipped the other foot down and got a toehold under the girls belt Immediately she clasped him round the leg and with Girton carrying out a similar maneuver she was slowly raised until both men could reach her with their free hands A mighty heave and they hauled her into comparative safety on the axle-a wooden crosspiece three inches wide between the landshying wheels One says comparative safety advisedly There was little more than three feet of clearance beshytween the axle and the base of the plane and it was still a tossup whether through the give of the springs in landing anyone on the axle would not be crushed It was a risk that had to be taken however
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for nothing more could be done Once more Pangborn changed
places with Lund while Miss Gorshydon clung to the axle in a half-fainting condition Considering the fearful mental strain she had unshydergone her demeanor had been admirable she had followed the mens attempts to rescue her coolly and intelligently and had done everything she could to help them It was no wonder that the reaction was now making itself felt
Unfamiliar as he was with the controls of the plane Lund preferred the more dangerous job of holding Miss Gordon on the landing gear to the task of attempting to land So (swarming down) he took his placed beside her while the pilot dropped earthward in slow wide circles
The management fearing an accishydent when the landing was made sent a motorcar out onto the field in case the three people clinging to the gear might prefer to try and drop into it as it ran along under the plane Pangborn however perhaps wisely preferred the risks of a regushylar landing and in a final long swoop he swept over the grass and
MOST AVIATORS VIVIDLY REMEMBER
THEIR FIRST AIRPLANE RIDE AND CHERISH
THAT FOND MEMORY
AND THOSE OF US WHO HAVE BEEN
FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO OWN OUR OWN
AIRPLANE REMEMBER THAT IN VIVID
DETAIL AS WELL By Ev CASSAGNERES
We remember how we found it and the details of that first step in our aviation
life Perhaps that purchase was made under unique circumstances not simply by writing a check You may find the story of my first airplane similar to yours you may find it just plain interesting or you may be startshying that search
This story begins shortly after Aushygust 141945 V] Day the end of World War II On September 27 that same year I applied for and was hired as a line boy for Reynolds Flying Service at the New Haven Municipal Airport near New Haven Connecticut
I was in high school (Hillhouse High) at that time and would ride my
bull Irs
bicycle to school every day rain snow or shine Then to get to work after school I rode it to the airport I did all the dirty work sweeping out the hangar and shop gassing and oilshying airplanes and washing and hand-propping airplanes when necesshysary Some were as big as Pratt amp Whitney R-985s I also helped out in the shop with repairs rib stitching and doping
Later that month I was on a bus ridshying from New Haven to my home in Westville a suburb of New Haven As we headed out Edgewood Avenue I happened to look out the window on the right side and nearly went nuts with excitement at what I saw It was in the yard of the Acme Auto Top Company
As soon as I got home I jumped onto my bicycle and rode back to see that airplane at Acme When [ met the owner Steve he said he wanted to sell it for $80 He showed me the wings tail surfaces and prop which were inshyside the building
The airplane was a 1929 Comshymand-Aire 3C-3T serial number 614 registration number NC901E It had a Curtiss OX-5 engine serial number 2116
The wings had silver fabric the
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fuselage was red and the tail surshyfaces were silver I was absolutely thrilled to just touch it I was only 17 years old and wondered how in the world I would ever come up with $80 for the airplane It was beautiful even though it most likely needed a complete rebuild to airshyworthy condition As partial payment for my work as a line boy I had been taking dual instruction in a Piper J-3C65 I wondered if I could even fly this airplane
At about this time I was also getshyting into serious bicycle racing through my friend Phil Kittredge who was already the Connecticut State Junior Champion He was not a pilot but agreed to be a partner in this endeavor Between us we came up with $15 as a down payment which we gave to Steve with a promise to get the rest as soon as we could
I went to work setting pins in loshycal bowling alleys and did some caddying at Yale Golf Course near where I lived both good jobs for a teenager at that time Phil and I
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These two shots are from the collection of Shelby Hagberg and are of the very ship forshymerly owned by then 17-yearshyold Ev Cassagneres Its a 1929 Command-Aire 3C-3T NC901 E serial number 614 Taken at Curtiss Field on Long Island New York The airplane was painted with silver wings and horizontal tail surface and a red fuselage and rudder
could not seem to raise enough cash to satisfy the airplane owner so we lost out on the deal and he kept the 15 bucks Of course we were devastated
In the meantime a local affluent gentleman who also collected anshytique automobiles managed to purchase the Command-Aire He had it moved out in the country in the town of Bethany It sat there out in a field with the wings laid out in the grass of an open field deterioratshying in the elements Occasionally I would cycle out there to look at it touch it and dream or fantasize
On January 21 1946 the new owner who knew who I was and that I was interested in the airplane called me and asked if I was still inshyterested He said he would sell it on a trade basis Needless to say I would come up with something
I happened to have a French-built Automoto bicycle that I was quite fond of but would be willing to part with It was worth about $80 so we did an even swap Now I had to find a place to put it and figure out a way
to get it home about 5 miles My friend Phil came to the rescue
again You see my own parents never did own a car or have drivers licenses Phil had the use of his fashythers 1937 Plymouth four-door car So we tied the tailskid in the trunk with clothesline rope and put the wings on the roof secured with ropes tied all over the place
We started out to drive the 5 miles to my house in Westville Well two young sporty guys couldshynt just go straight there and that would be that could they We realshyized that the local high school was due out at 230 in the afternoon So we just happened to detour with all of this interesting cargo over some hills to the school and we got there just as the students were getshyting out Many we knew and of course we directed our attention mainly to the girls So whats the story they would ask and that was all we needed We ahem had just flown down from some exotic place in northern Canada and planned on rebuilding the airplane for some other exotic adventure It was amazshying how convincing we could be and how gullible they were We did all of this while wearing an old pair of gogshygles and a helmet and with mischievous faces they still believed us so we let it go at that We laughed all the way home
The airplane sat in my backyard the rest of the winter as I worked on it although I really did not know what I was doing I did get the enshygine running a couple of times The sound and smell was exciting like a concert orchestra to me My parents gave me a lot of encouragement and enjoyed my project
However my enthusiasm and fanshytasy of flight were not to last very long We lived on the third floor of a three-family house and the landlord was not at all happy over this kid having an airplane in the backyard of our neighborhood So it had to go What to do We did not own a car so no garage was available and I could not find any other suitable
This shot taken at Curtiss Field as well clearly shows the split-axle landing gear and Fokker Dvll-styled wing center section as designed by famed aero engineer Albert Voellmecke
place for it So the bottom line was simple-I had to sell it And I never even took a picture of it nor did any of the neighbors
A schoolmate of mine by the name of Billy Gilbert also a stushydent pilot showed some interest and he lived in the town of Bethany That town had a grass runway airport and it was one of the oldest airports in New Engshyland where supposedly American Airlines got started Famous aviashytors had flown out of there names such as Bert Acosta Clarence Chamberlin Guss Graff Jack Tweed Franklin T Hank Kurt Bob Noorduyn (Norseman) and Batch Pond (Pond Creams) (The Bethany airport managed to stay in existence until the early 1980s)
On May 291946 Billy Gilbert came to the house with a farm rack truck and $30 loaded up the airshyplane and drove away That was the last time I saw it as r stood there and cried However I had hidden the propeller in our basement and still
have it as a memento in addition to a section of wing fabric with the black number NC901E on it
So what became of that old airshyplane Billy wen t into the Navy and his parents eventually sold the ship to a local junk and scrap dealer who was mainly interested in the OX engine That was the end of it I searched many years later but it was gone
Years later I came across many Command-Aire photographs and the ones shown with this article are all I have of that fond memory
Sometime after that I owned a 1941 Waco UPF-7 which I made my first dollar with by towing signs allover the place out of the Bethany airport and then a 1936 Ryan ST and now I have a 1953 Cessna 170B which I fly often (my first closed-in type)
Sometimes for old times sake r will fly the 170 with helmet and goggles and white scarf and the winshydows open See one never loses the thrill of real flight
In closing I can say that if one wants to fly bad enough one will find a way It is a healthy disease that can be most appreciated as you feel the wind in your face up in the air over our beautiful countryside
What else do I do now for fun My new book The Untold Story of The Spirit Of St Louis will be out next year 2002 the 75th annivershysary of Lindberghs epic flight This book has been a labor of love for decades and it will be published by Historic Aviation Books
When that is done I plan to write the history of Command-Aire and also some Connecticut aviation hisshytory In particular Im going to document the stories of the Cairns airplane the Kimball Beetle sevenshycylinder aircraft radial engine the Scorpion aircraft engine the Bristol gliders that were manufactured on Edgewood Avenue near the Acme Auto Top Company (see story) and the Bourdon- and Viking-built Kitty Hawk airplanes
After that I may retire
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TYPE CLUB
Some Thoughts on Restoration and Airworthiness Originally appeared in Waco World News Vol I No 36 MaylJune 2001
by Robert G Lock
Restoring an airplane is a lot like flying-hours and hours of someshytimes boring work separated by a few moments of stark terror As one approaches the end of a restoration project there comes a time for certishyfication by the FAA unless the airplane has a permanent airworthishyness certificate Receiving that all-important permanent standard airworthiness certificate is the final objective This article will give some background on past certification procedures especially for airplanes that go back to the beginning of government rules and regulations
Governments entry into aviashytion essentially began with the creation of the Aeronautics Branch of the Department of Commerce Near the top of the agenda of the new bureaucracy was the certificatshying of airplanes pilots and eventually mechanics Approved type certificates (ATC) began in March 1927 and continue to this day Registration numbers were reshyquired and were painted on the wings and tail The Roman capital letter N denoting registration in the United States followed by the letter C for commercial X for
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experimental R for restricted and L for limited were adopted Design requirements needed for an ATC were contained in Aeronautics Bulletin 7 later 7A ATCs were numshybered sequentia lly beginning with 1 and ending with 817 (a new ATC numbering system was introduced after number 817) The certificating of pilots and later mechanics closely followed as the government tried to regulate the beginning of the aviation industry
Obtaining an ATC to manufacshyture and sell an airplane was costly even in the early days Group 2 apshyprovals were awarded to a person or company when only a limited numshyber of aircraft were to be built either as a new design or as a modification of an existing airplane being manushyfactured under an ATe The Group 2 approvals were cheaper and easier to obtain but design and manufacshyture were equiva lent to approved type cert ificates
An important item to remember is that if an airplane was designed to Aeronautics Bulletin 7 or 7A it still must meet those requirements toshyday So for some restorers a copy of this manual is helpful
Another bit of information critishycal to certification is that there were no permanent airworthiness certifishycates in the old days A representative of the government re -certificated the airplane annushyally and a new airworthiness certificate was issued The papershywork f i le in Washington DC became immense There was a file folder for each registered aircraft and all hard copy paperwork was meticulously maintained Even telegrams were retained
Each file folder was a complete diary of the airplane from owners to inspections and repairs Some of this data is available today on mishycrofiche For most all aircraft the original hard copy files have been placed on microfiche and then the hard copy fi les were destroyed I have seen original files that are still stored in Suitland Maryland Most of those files are not on microfiche
ATC data is also known as type design data Type design data can be found in the Aircraft Listing Enshygine Listing and Prope ll er Listing (for fewer than SO airp lanes regisshytered) and in the Aircraft Engine and Propeller Specification Sheets
for the middle-aged aircraft For airplanes of this vintage this
is the only source of data for the reshystorer If youre really lucky there may be copies of original factory drawings available as a valuable supplement However most of the factory drawings for many antique aircraft have been destroyed Fortushynately for Waco restorers factory drawings are available Drawings are invaluable when restoring old airplanes I searched for the Comshymand-Aire drawings but determined that they had all been destroyed However in my search I did locate some valuable type deshysign data from a most unusual source which might be fuel for anshyother story
In the mid 1930s the aviation inshydustry continued to grow By an act of Congress the government creshyated the Civil Aeronautics Administration (CAA) The CAA took regulations created by the Aeronautics Branch of the Departshyment of Commerce and expanded its bureaucratic role in aviation It created Civil Aviation Regulations (CAR) and Civil Aviation Manuals (CAM) Requirements of approved type were now contained in the CARs CAR 3 was certification for small aircraft Also to appear was the mechanics bible CAM 18 which spelled out requirements for major repairs to aircraft This publishycation evolved into the present FAA Advisory Circulars AC4313-1B andshy2B which give data on major repairs and alterations
The annual re-certificating of airshycraft was still required and a new airworthiness certificate was given to the owner after the airplane was approved for return to service As the workload increased a new method of certificating was created DeSignated aircraft maintenance inshyspectors (DAM I) were selected to take over the re-certificating duties These were well-experienced airshy
craft and engine (AampE) mechanics that were hand selected by local CAA maintenance inspectors The airworthiness certificate was still isshysued every year but in the mid-1950s about the time that the Federal Aviation Agency (FAA) came to power things began to change for airworthiness certificates They became permanent The aircraft could be re-certificated every year by a DAMI and later by an FAA airshyframe and powerplant (AampP) mechanic who holds an inspection authorization (IA) So today the AampP with IA can return to service annual inspections many major reshypairs and some major alterations
Congress created the Federal Avishyation Agency in 1958 Soon after the word II Agency was dropped in favor of II Administration And government control and bureaushycracy continued to grow ever larger
While we are on the subject of the FAA perhaps an easy method to distinguish differences between mashyjor repairs and major alterations is to apply the following
If the repair returns the aircraft to its original type certificate afshyfects airworthiness and cannot be done using elementary techniques then it is a major repair
If the repair (or modification) alshyters conformity to the original type design data then it is a major alteration
If an AampP mechanic cannot apshyprove a major repair or major alteration then a field approval by an FAA maintenance inspector must be obtained Sometimes this is more complicated than can be imagined Maybe a future story on FAA field approvals would prove inshyteresting
If an aircraft has never had a pershymanent airworthiness certificate then one must be obtained Here again the FAA issues this certifishycate To obtain that treasured piece of paper you must fill out an applishy
cation and prove that the airplane conforms to its type certificate Sometimes this is very difficult Esshypecially if the original type design data is incomplete or missing I have seen file cabinets in FAA headshyquarters with drawers containing type design data Just like Joe Juptshyners US Civil Aircraft books each drawer had a folder with the ATC number on top Some of the folders contained data while some were empty When the folder was empty the FAA had no type design data other than data that was published in Aircraft Engine and Propeller Listing which is not very much
For the coveted permanent airshyworthiness certificate an FAA representative will conduct a conshyformity inspection The basis for the inspection could be one or more of the following FAA Airshycraft Engine and Propeller Listing or Specification Sheets microfiche of original aircraft records containshying airworthiness and registration data factory drawings (if available) and aircraft and engine operating limitations
In addition current weight and balance calculations with critical forward and aft loading (if reshyquired) a loading schedule (if required) and appropriate placardshying must be included A list of required optional and special equipment must accompany the weight and balance data And lastly FAA Form 337 (Major Repair amp Mashyjor Alteration) must be completed by the supervising AampPIA Aircraft and engine logbooks must have apshypropriate entries made and registration data must be shown After many months (or should I say years) of restoration work perhaps that small piece of paper that says PERMANENT AIRWORTHINESS CERTIFICATE-STANDARD is now in your hand Categories of the airshyworthiness certificate are NORMAL UTILITY and ACROBATIC
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Mike Sleineke
Yeah well just strip it and paint it
Shouldnt take more than a month Thats what Ronnie Cox and Greg Davis of Ft Lauderdale Florida said about their 1962 250 Comanche
Sound familiar That kind of comshyment is right up there with Well just clean up a few of the instrushyments or Gee wouldnt it look better with a new windshield
Not once in the history of vinshytage con tern porary airplanes has anyone
1 Removed just one part painted it and put it right back on without removing a bunch more first
2 Started to do just one restoration operation eg re-bush the landing gear and done only that one thing
3 Taken an engine off overhauled it and put it back on without redoshying everything in sight
4 Reupholstered just the front seats and stopped there
You get the picture Airplanes are a lot like tar babies and once you get
your fingers into them they generally suck you in right up to your navel and don t let you go until theres nothing left to do
Ronnie and Greg were both lookshying for a serious cross-country airplane they could use to run from Florida up to Ronnies summer house in the Michigan islands Ronnie had owned three Comanches in the past so that was his bird of choice For Greg it would be his first airplane ownership
Ronnie had a long history of airshyplane ownership and involvement because his dad was heavily involved in aircraft and used to fly him all over the country Plus he owned a long string of airplanes including a PT-19 and a bunch of Pipers including Tri-Pacers Pacers and such
Ronnie started flying while he was still based in Ohio in the 1960s
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The 2S0-hp six-cylinder Lycoming gives the Comanche Bonanza-rivaling speed (a cruise of 161 to 181 mph) and a useful load carrying capacity of up to 1200 pounds
Updated radios and a refurbished interior make the Comanche a comfortable cross-country speedster
and his wife and son learned to fly from the same CFI who taught both his father and him to fly
Cox an elecshytrical engineer by training had started his own enshygineering business years ago and even worked a Seneca II into it for corposhyrate transportation so by the time the 1962 Comanche entered thei r lives he had 5500 hours of flying time He recently sought a change in career and sold his business to fly for a comshymuter airline
Ronnie also had a business buildshying engines for drag racers that Greg said really helped because Ronshynie just has a feel for what has to be done to a machine mechanically to make it right
Cox enjoyed rebuilding airplanes almost from the beginning and his total restoration of a Cessna 140 won a Lindy Award as recognition that he was a hands-on kind of guy who farmed out as little of his airplane reshybuilding projects as possible However it was in looking for a little help while his son and he were reshybuilding his sons Cessna 120 (which also won a Lindy) that he met Greg Davis
We needed to have some alushyminum bent to make up a new spar doubler for the 120 Ronnie said and someone suggested we contact
this guy on the other side of the field Ronnie
laughed when he said this inshydicating something was coming We walked in with the original
doubler in our hand which was a litshytle crude and showed it to Greg This
was the first time Id laid eyes on him Ronnie said
He looked at the doubler threw it down and said No I cant make something like this I thought he was joking or something Then he said If I make it itll be better than that Greg can be a little cantankerous and Ronnie Cox laughed again
Greg Davis has run Davis Aircraft Services in Ft Lauderdale since 1985 and he specializes in doing structural repairs on corporate airplanes As such he has developed both the facilshyity and ability to do practically anything with sheet metal So beshytween Ronnies mechanical ability and Gregs feeling for sheet metal there was practically nothing they couldnt do to a little airplane
I had been part of an RV-4 buildshying project but got out of it because I was just too busy flying a friends Pitts S-2B Greg explained He said I could fly it as much as I wanted so I started competing and between that and work I didnt really have the time to own my own airplane
There was something about the chemistry between the two men that prompted them to want a cross-counshy
try airplane that could carry two guys 120 gallons of gas and our bagshygage Enter the Comanche
They ran into the airplane in Aushygust 1992 and it was a really sad example of the breed but the price was right and the sheet metal looked good Also it had no corrosion
Then they started comparing the logbooks to the actual airplane and found that someone had a fanciful imagination when it came to the defishynition of airworthiness directive (AD) compliance The Comanche has a bunch of fairly serious and expenshysive ADs Ronnie pointed out Over the years someone had been signing off the ADs but not doing them As they put it the airplane had about 25 years of pencil maintenance
We found a perfect example of how well this airplane was mainshytained when we replaced the tires One of the tubes was dated 1962 and had been on the airplane since it was built Greg said
The airplane had also been landed gear-up at some point in its career Again the previous keepers of the logs didnt see fit to mention this litshytle incident There were a bunch of scab patches on the belly we had to get rid of and we put new gear doors on it
Their approach to the sheet metal was simple If a panel needed a repair they would just replace the panel We re-skinned part of the turtledeck
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WHAT OUR MEMBERS ARE RESTORING by HG Frautschy and Norm Petersen
AERONCA 7DC Sitting on the grass at Lee Bottom Airport near Louisville Kentucky Mark
and Wendie Paszkiewiczs (VAA 580997) 1946 Aeronca 7DC is ready for a flight in the warm hazy skies along the Ohio River First delivered as a 7 AC to a Phoenix Arizona flight school in 1946 with the installation of a Conshytinental 85-hp engine it became an Aeronca 7De Partially restored when they bought the project Mark and Wendie couldnt resist rebuilding some parts Now they fly the Champ around to local fly-ins and just have fun in it after work
CHAMPION 7GCB Posed in the afternoon sunshine of Sky
Harbor Airport in Duluth Minnesota is a beautiful 1962 Champion 7GCB N9912Y serial number 7GCB-133 mounted on an immaculate set of PKshy1800 floats Recently re-covered and painted by veteran mechanic Don Macor (VAA 28788) of Duluth Minnesota this particular aircraft is quite rare in that it has only 706 hours total time on airframe and engine has a factory original outside baggage compartment door and is one of only six 7GCBs remaining on the US Register In addition during its entire 39shyyear lifespan only one authorized inspectors name is in the aircraft logshybooks-Don Macor Don reports the airframe was in very good shape with only minor surface rust on a few places The covering is Ceconite 101 with bushytyrate dope in Daytona white Miami blue and black trim Note the seaplane auxiliary fins on the stabilizers necessary with the added mass of the floats ahead of the CG
Unusual to this model of 150 hp Champion is the outside baggage door on the right side of the fuselage seen here in the open position and ready for access to the baggage compartment
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because we removed the beacon It takes alshymost as long to patch the hole correctly as it does to replace the enshytire panel and then you dont have that ugly patch up there
The same thing held true for the cowlshying which they say is a weak point in a Coshymanche Building a new one consumed an enormous amount of time
Comanche control surfaces are reshyally thin mostly 016 and 020 so it doesnt take much to bend them up This airplane had apparently seen some hail that was heavy enough to dent the control surfaces but not the rest of the airplane so Greg said we re-skinned most of the control surfaces
Early in the project when the pair realized the airplane was going to take more than simply stripping and painting they decided on a specific goal We wanted to make it a truly modern airplane almost a new one so we could depend on it So we did everything but de-mate the wing We removed every single wire and sysshytem in the entire airplane and rebuilt every part of it according to Ronnie
When it came to the avionics Greg said it was really grungy It had Mark 12 radios in it and by the time we were done removing layers and layers of old wiring we took about SO pounds of wires out
Part of making it a modern airshyplane meant building reliability into everything ahead of the firewall We put a 260-hp exhaust system on it along with a lightweight starter new mags and most important we put a new fuel pump on it and had it flowshychecked Weve had some really tragic accidents in the Comanche community because the fuel pump was working but it wasnt putting out enough to feed the engine at takeoff power
According to the pair the landing
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gear is another area that needs careful examination because it wears out quickly We pulled every bushing and part of the gear and found that much of it was really sloppy This makes it hard to rig and contributes to gear collapses We dont know the history to our airplanes accident but that could have played a part
Naturally everything in the inteshyrior was replaced including a new panel with modern everything and they installed shoulder harnesses at the same time To keep their passenshygers happy they installed a small TV set with a VCR in the back seat They also installed a 14-inch thick big windshield and routed the edges down so it would fit flush into the original mounting channels
It took five years to get the airshyplane ready to fly and then it took another three months to get the pashyperwork completed We filed eight 337s and one field approval Because I do so many similar things with the corporate aircraft I just approached this one the same way Greg Davis said I filed them all through a DER (deSignated engineering representashytive) but rather than doing them locally I invited the FAA to come up and take a look at the airplane
They are obviously proud of the FAAs reaction to the way they apshyproached their project II After they came up the first time they brought another group of guys up to take a look at it They told us they wanted everyone in their office to see this beshy
cause this is the way they like to see an airshyplane and the supshyporting paperwork done Seems like theres a lesson for the rest of us in there somewhere
Ronnie Cox said The Comanche is a great airplane but like all airplanes if it needs extensive work it can be really expensive if you dont do it yourshyself Theres an old
saying about Piper products Made by farmers for farmers and its true The airplane is really easy to work on but the best thing you can do is make sure you get a good airplane in the first place
Cox has a number of pOints that he said every wannabe Comanche owner should satisfy before he or she buys a particular airplane Besides the normal over-all condition stuff that affects every airplane there are some specifics which include
bull AD list and compliance-Undershystand what airworthiness directives affect the airplane and make sure they were actually done
bull Gear condition-Look for cracked knuckles and measure as many internal dimensions as posshysible
bull Gear-up damage-Gear-up landshyings often crush the structure that the gear motor is attached to Make sure it was repaired properly
bull Flap track condition-The flap tracks wear and need to be carefully checked
bull Flap motor-The flap actuation system and especially the motor have to be checked for condition
The CoxDavis Comanche has more than 200 hours on it now and its owners (or should they be called creators) say it does exactly what they wanted it to do It lets them go long distances in comfort and they have the peace of mind that comes from knowing everything within that airplane was done right
CHAMPION 7ED7FC Ownerpilot Mike Foote (VAA 365457) wrote to us concerning his terrific restoration IIManufactured by Champion Aircraft in 1959 N8539E began life as a Tri-Champ In 1983 it was convelted to a taidragshy
gerl but only 12 short flight hours later life changed dramatically for N8539E when it was severely damaged in a windstorm The ownerls initial impression was that it would never fly again The remains went through several owners each intent upon restorationl but finding the task a daunting onel each chose instead to pass it along to someone else with more ambition My tum came in July of1995 After 15 months ofintense restoration efforts N8539E became a plane again on October 261 1996 1 flew the plane from my home base in Olathel Kansas to Oshkosh in 1997 and had it judged in the Contemporary category My efforts were rewardedl as the Champion was selected as the Outstanding Champion aircraft for that year It is still going strong and is just as satisfying to fly today as it was for the first time II
TAYLORCRAFf DC-65
Chet Peek (VAA 13458) author of terrific books such as The First Cub and Resurrection ofa Jenny has gotshyten back into flying after losing his airplanes and Norman Oklahoma hangar during a tornado in 1998 Chefs bought Bruce Bixlers Taylorshycraft DC-65 This DC-65 is one of the rare early Taylorcraft Tandems which had aluminum spars and ribs A few in the same series became the first Taylorcraft L-2 liaison airplanes Chefs airplane is finished in the Civilian Training Programs colors of blue and yellow
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September Mystery Plane
by HG Frautschy
This months Mystery Plane is a rare metal plane from the collection of Pete Bowers
Send your answer to EAA Vinshytage Airp lane PO Box 3086 Oshkosh WI 54903-3086 Your anshyswer needs to be in no later than October 15 for inclusion in the Deshycember issue of Vintage Airplane
You can also send your response via e-m ail Send your answer to vintageeaaorg
Be sure to include both your name and address (especially your city and state) in the body of your not e and put (Month) Mystery Plane in the subject line
Plenty of you knew the June Mysshytery Plane surely one of those Don t you wish there was just one of th ese left kind of airplanes Heres our first letter
The Mystery Plane in the June 2001 edition of Vintage Airplane is an Ireshyland N-2 Neptune
Ireland N-2 Nep
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G Sumner Ireland had been an engineer for Curtiss up to 1926 He later formed Ireland Aircraft Inc at Curshytiss Field Garden City and marketed th e Ireland Comet Meteor Privateer and Neptune Th e N-2B Neptune (circa 1927) was a four-pla ce amphibian powshyered by a 300-hp Wright J-6 while the N-2C Nepshytun e was a fiv e-place amphibian with a 450-hp PampWWasp
Thomas H Lymburn Princeton Minnesota
And more on the various models of the Neptune
The June Mystery Plane is the Amshyphibians Incorporated Model N-2B or N-2C with either PampW Wa sp engine or the Wright Whirlwind 300 in the five- or six-place amphibian Modificashytions from the Ireland A ircraft Inc Model ND5-ND6 include strut covers and increased bow angle on the tip floats and an extended main hull float behind the step The three views are from the Aircraft Yearbook 3- View
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Drawings 1903-1946 Russ Brown Lyndhurst Ohio
With Juptn ers U S Civil A ircraft this one didn t take long to idenshytify Vol 2 p ages 151-153 for ATC 153 des cribes th e Ireland Neptun e N-2B With enough clarity in th e photo to note the license as NC-88K its listed as L ____v
production number 43
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and had a 300-hp Wright J-6 engine (affirmed by the long rocker-box eavshyers) (Abo ut this time some models were being upgraded with a 450 PampW Wasp for the model N-2C-ATC 248)
Ive always been very appreciative of Joe Juptners good coverage of all the ATCd US aircraft Over the years Ive been building scale models of more obshyscure aircraft as a hobby Ive drawn many of my plans from photos and dishymensions in US Civil Aircraft In fact I have a plan I drew for the Nepshytune N-2C though Ive not built it yet Thats why I recognized the June Mysshytery plane was a Neptune I lived in Ecuador for about 45 years and made most of the models of jungle hardshywoods in 1 32 scale
Bub Borman Dallas Texas
Junes Mystery Plane was easy It is Irelands Neptune NC-89K shown on page 143 of us Civil Aircraft Vol 3
by Juptner Both pictures were probably taken the same day Note the man at left in both pictures same suit hat and tie Note the taped wire or tube on left wing forward strut
Excuse this old typewriter Im 81 and darned ifIll get a new one now
Good magazine good association good people Thanks
Albert B Aplin Chuluota Florida
Ju st a note to say I think the Jun e Mystery Plane is one of the Ireland Airshycraft Inc Neptune series
G Sumner Irelands ideas on flying boats pre-date this N-2C version by several years so the name was not new to aviation
Th e N-2C for the June issue was one of about nine built in late 1929 and the early 1930s
It was powered by a 450-hp Pratt amp Whitn ey Wasp and had a chromoly frame around which were bulkheads of duralumin to which were fastened
formers and then the outer aluminum skin
Hope this entry will serve to put me in the winners circle But then you always are when you join the V AA
John Kennelley Norwalk Iowa
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Weve gotten plenty of comshyments about the article concerning bulging fabric While it wasnt part of my column originally many of you have addressed your comments to me so Ill check in on the freshyquency
Before we get to that Id like to update you on the status of our Champ airworthiness directive compliance It went fine as you may recall reading in my July colshyumn but a funny thing happened after flying a bit in the rain-the paint we sprayed over the patches has started to come off Dang Usshying MEK I thought Id completely removed the lemon-scented furnishyture polish I use regularly to clean the leading edges but I guess I was wrong The paint on the leading edges is beginning to peel HG and I wonder if they put any silishycone in the polish Doesnt say so on the can but maybe its a secret ingredient The peeling paint makes the new name (see photo on page 26) for the Champ even more accurate
Lets get on with the loose fabric discussion
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First loose fabric is a hazard for a couple of reasons Loose fabric can chafe against fairing strips and fasshyteners weakening it If a fabric edge is caught in the slipstream it can easily be torn away The results can be disastrous If it gets tangled up with a control surface it can even cause a loss of control and at the very least the loose wildly flapping fabric can be a huge distraction Heres what some others had to say I cant say I agree with everyones comments but it certainly is intershyesting to see how fabrics are being applied in shops around the world Heres our first note
You must have received a lot of comments about the Stinsons bulging fabric Ill give you my 2~ worth
Ive re-covered at least four during the past 45 years and dozens of reshycovering jobs on many types of aircraft Ive used cotton Irish linen Ceconite Razorback and Stits Im sticking with Ceconite 101 which [ like best I like the smell of dope beshysides all the other good features
When I tighten Ceconite I set my iron at 400degF to 450degF ] do the initial
tightening with a heat gun Then] work it with the iron evenly until] can feel the right tautness Thats just the right drumming sound and feel After the first coat ofprimer nishytrate dope there may be a few slack areas I then go over them again but never holding the iron in one place very long
Every Stinson I re-covered had screws on the four stringers on top of the fuselage from the windshield back about 3 or 4 feet spaced 3 or 4 inches apart ] just looked at three Stinsons on our flight line and they all have the screws
Don Macor Duluth Minnesota
Dons method might work well for him but Id hesitate to suggest it to anyone else In particular the use of a heat gun is prohibited in the Poly-Fiber and other process manuals that deal with the installashytion of Dacron fabric Uneven heat application is the reason it is disshycouraged Id also point out that the Cooper Superflight manual among others highlights the fact that Dacron fabric will start to m~lt
when heated above 450degF Thats why Don says he does not linger too long when shrinking the fabric with an iron set above 400degF
I just received my July issue of Vinshytage Airplane I always look forward to its arriva l That cover photo of the Stearman is beautiful Hats off to Jim Koepnick who does such a great job ofphotographing these old planes
I was drawn to the article on page 4 Is that Covering too Slack I have an uncovered Stinson 108-3 sitting in my garage so perhaps I can shed some light on some of the details about covshyering the Stinson 108 series In the article someone said Id be tempted to rib-stitch the fabric to the upper stringers on the fuselage Id suggest avoiding that temptation The Stinson used 4 PK screws to attach the fabric to the ribs and to the stringers above the fuselage I know because I have a coffee can with hundreds of these screws that I removed from my plane Above the fuselage there are four hatshysection aluminum stringers On my Stinson the fabric was attached to each of these stringers with 10 PK screws at 3-inch intervals beginning aft of the leading edge and running back just aft of the rear spar I believe thats how it was done originally I would not suggest rib-stitching beshycause the sharp edges of the hat-section stringers would cut the lacing And of course there is the matter of legality Rib-stitching would be a modification from the original construction certainly not appropriate in this situation
The photo on page 5 shows apparshyent ballooning of the fabric over the cabin area of the fuselage but theres more to this than meets the eye At the Stinson factory a blanket of fibershyglass insulation was installed above the cabin Old photos show this insushylation installed above the stringers I believe the fabric was then attached through the insulation to the stringers with the PK screws That puffy look above the cabin may be caused (at least in part) by the insulation Ive
We had a couple of folks ask if we could show a comparison shot highlighting loose fabric with the Stinson as an example In 1999 EAAs crack photo staff took air-to-air photos of a couple of Stinsons The top photo shows the fabric ballooning above the cabin In the lower photo the airplane restored by noted Stinson 108 rebuilder Butch Walsh of Arrington Virginia clearly shows the 4 PK (Parker-Kalon) screws that secure the fabric to the cabin roof stringers before the finishing tapes are applied
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discussion Im sure there are others out there who know more about this than I do Id enjoy hearing from anyshyone interes ted in Stinsons I have a website that I call Hangar 9 Aeroworks It features my project and other information on the 108-series Stinsons The URL is wwwhangar9 aeroworkscom
John Baker Damascus Maryland
Dip and HG were the first to agree with the members who wrote and called in to take them to ta sk for not confirming the exact method of attachment used by Stinson The intent of the original write-up was not to compos e a Stinson maintenance manual but to highlight the hazards inherent in any fabric job that is not propshyerly installed Our comments were meant to elicit a response from the membership in cluding expe rts like Butch Walsh Boy did they ever respond
Each of us is required to confirm the exact methods us ed by the manufacturer or subsequently apshyproved modifications and to scrupulously duplicate those methshyods The type certificate drawings and other information are often
seen Stinsons with the original type insulation that had the puffy look while sitting quietly on the ground
Dip Davis is correct that the Stinshyson did not originally cover the tanks on the 108s though Ive seen many restorations with the tanks covered There can be a bit of a problem with fabric tapes not adhering well to the perimeter of the tanks In fact I had a few tapes come loose once on a trip to EAA Chapter 643 s fl y-in at Pittstown New Jersey in 1993 A litshytle contact cem ent and some help from Chapter 643 got me back home okay Shortly after that I decided it was time for a complete re-cover job
Here s one more item about balshylooning fabric on the Stinson 108s that I learned from Stinson guru Butch Walsh The cabin fresh air intakes are on the leading edge of th e wing (as shown on page 17 of th e March issue of Vintage Airplane) Th ese vents feed into a chamber inside the inboard rib bay This chamber is not sealed very well so forced air spills out into the wing as well as into the cabin Taking care to seal this chamshyber can eliminate some problems with fabric on the inboard portion of th e wing and will provide more fresh air in the cabin
I hope this will contribute to the
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After we compiled with AD 2000shy25-02 the Champ looked a bit more shop-worn so we gave it a new name
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Dont blindly follow the lead of someone who may have restored the airplane in the past-they ma y have missed something that is required How many times have you seen a poorly placed inspection hole only to hear II But that was the way it was inshystalled on the airplane when I got it I Only the factory drawings and any supplemental type certifishy
cates (STC) or other approved modifications can change the aircrafts legal configushyration and the method of fabric installation is part of that configushyration
As both HG and I have pOinted out in the past the covering supshypliers have specific instructions on how their covering methods are to be installed Since covering with the Poly-Fiber Cooper Superflight Ai r-Tech or other processes were not included in the type certificate for the airplanes that we were dealshying with here an STC for their installation was obtained by the resp ective companies If their method is not followed you run the risk of having the covering job re jected by an IA (AampP with inshyspection authorization) mechanic andor the FAA for not conformshying to the STC If an STCd part is installed on an aircraft and the methods spelled out in the STC are not followed the aircraft is unshyairworthy Un-airworthy aircraft dont have very good resale values and besides you can t fly them And thats the point of all of this right Let s get out there do it right and fly safely
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Ive been attending EAA AirVenture Oshkosh for 29 years and this years event was one of the best The anshytique aircraft were some of the best that we have seen
Restorations just continue to get better each year Years ago when you walked the flight line youd see a
wide range of antique aircraft restorations Some were good some were so-so and a few were outstanding As the movement has progressed the number of excellent restorations has continued to increase When you talk to members on the flight line a shift in attitude toward restoration is also evident-people seem to take their stewshyardship of these magnificent old aircraft quite seriously
That attitude is now permeating the ownership ranks of Classic category airplanes as ever-increasing numbers of classic airplanes are appearing on fly-in flight lines all over the country Sure there are still plenty of airplanes someshytimes referred to in classified ads as good fliers airplanes that members have not yet restored to near factory condishytion For others a good clean restoration doesnt have to be a factory original but one that is useful for them Exshytended ski tubes extra fuel tanks and items that increase the airplanes utility are often what people add to their airshyplanes Theres plenty of room for all in vintage aviation and youll often see examples of every style and level of restoration at EAA AirVenture and your local fly-in
Still its funny how many of us still dont think of classhysic airplanes as old The youngest classic is now coming up on its 46th birthday I guess you could pin a lot of that attitude on the basic utility these great airshyplanes still offer More than once in recent times Ive heard of a person looking seriously at one of the newer lightplanes and while researching discovered that a reshycently restored classic offered more utility for less cost The choices for an individual who wants four seats in the airplane are even more limited Take for example a 1950 Cessna 170 It offers a 115 mph cruise speed 8 gph and four seats a great going places machine But we do have to accept that it is old Since it left the runway at Wichita 51 years have passed
The Contemporary category (1956-1965) is right on its heels with the youngest of its planes firmly in middle age with 36 years under their wheels The FAA and other agenshycies consider aircraft old or an antique at 25 years and owners of these younger airplanes are also coming to grips with the subject of aging aircraft Aging aircraft are a highshypriority issue at the FAA and were not just talking about old 727s Our airplanes and their maintenance and supshy
s EL by ESPIE BUTCH JOYCE
PRESIDENT VINTAGE AIRCRAFT ASSOCIATION
port are on their agenda and were working closely with EAA to be sure our input is added and were kept abreast of the latest developments
As contemporary aircraft owners are beginning to realshyize that their airplanes are older too were seeing restorations like Bragdons Cessna 210 Oune 2001 Vinshytage Airplane) These are enormously useful airplanes that can be used daily if necessary but they still look great on the fly-in flight line Does that sound familiar classic owners
It takes time for these restorations to come to the surshyface Ive even had to come to grips with it My Luscombe is one of my favorite airplanes but I cant use it for all my flying needs I also own a Beech Baron that fits in the Contemporary category Its 37 years old now and I conshysider it equal in my desired capabilities to a new Baron It will do most any task better than its new brother and its cheaper too I have no problem going to the hangar loadshying it up and flying to the islands or anywhere else I probably wont be doing this in the Luscombe but I have thought that it would be fun to do so At least it would not take Customs long to inspect the Luscombe With the realization that the Baron can now be judged just like any classic or antique Ive embarked on a custom reconditionshying program
In doing so Ive gained a new pride of ownership in my Contemporary class aircraft When I land somewhere new on a cross-country the tower might ask What year is your Baron It s nice to pull into the FBO for fuel or an overnight stay and have the line guys tell you how great the airplane looks I appreciate it when they ask if Id like to park it in their hangar overnight I think that they enshyjoy seeing good-looking airplanes too
One thing to keep in mind is that most of these younger people who are working at the FBOs now cut their teeth on the contemporary class of aircraft Just like many of us long desired a Travel Air or Cub of our own to fly in the future contemporary aircraft will be the ones they will want to own
The EAA Vintage Aircraft Association has taken the lead in highlighting the issues facing older aircraft and working with the type clubs weve gained an ear at the FAA to discuss these issues Were fortunate to have peoshyple working for the FAA such as Mike Gallagher who not only understand the issues were confronted with but also are actively working with us to help solve the problems We will have more on these subjects in future issues Lets all pull in the same direction for the good of aviation Remember we are better together Join us and have it all
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EAA AIRVENTURE 2001 VAA AWARDS Gold Lindy Grand Champion-Antique 1940 Piper J-5A Cub Cruiser NC329S5 Carl Brasser Brentwood Tennessee
Grand Champion-Classic Grumman Mallard NC2950 Steve Hamilton Carson City Nevada
Grand Champion-Contemporary Beech 35-B33 Debonair NS622M James Lynch Lawton Oklahoma
Silver Lindy Vintage Reserve Grand Champion-Antique Boeing Stearman E75 N713WW Scott White Orient Ohio
Vintage Reserve Grand Champion-Classic Aeronca 11AC Chief N9526E Paul Gould Sardinia Ohio
Vintage Reserve Grand Champion- Contemporary Piper PA-22-10S Colt N5549Z Dennis Beecher Martinsburg Pennsylvania
Bronze Lindy Antique
Champion-World War II Military Trainer or Liaison Aircraft Stearman N2S-3 N131 5N Douglas Devries Redlands California
Champion-Transport Category Boeing S307 Stratoliner NC19903-NASM Stratoliner Restoration Crew Federal Way Washington
Champion-Customized Aircraft Boeing Stearman E75N1 N3976B
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David Bates Faribault Minnesota
Champion-Replica Vickers Vimy FB27 NX71 MY Peter McMillan San Francisco California
Champion Golden Age (191S-1927) Ryan M-1 N2073 Andrew King Lovettsville Virginia
Champion-Silver Age (1928-1932) Fairchild FC-2W2 N13934 Greg Herrick Jackson Wyoming
Champion Bronze Age (1933-1941) Spartan Executive NC17667 Kent Blankenburg Groveland California
Champion World War II Era 1943-1945 Beech D17S Staggerwing N9597H E P Wiesner Castle Rock Colorado
Bronze Lindy Classic Best Class I (0-80 hp) Mooney Mite M1S N4149E Ben Workman Zanesville Ohio
Best Class II (81-150 hp) Cessna 140 NC2437V Michael Midtgaard Minneapolis Minnesota
Best Class III (151-235 hp) Ryan Navion N4012K Robert Kane Wilton California
Best Class IV 236 hp amp up Cessna 195 N2134C George Dray Novato California
Best Custom Class A Taylorcraft BC-12D N39911 Lee Bowden Independence Iowa
Best Custom Class B Cessna 140 N773SH Marty Lochman Newalla Oklahoma
Best Custom Class C Piper PA-1S-150 N75SSE Loren Kopseng Bismarck North Dakota
Best Custom Class 0 Cessna 195 N9S54A Martin Madden Somis California
Bronze Lindy Contemporary Beech H35 N547SD Larry VanDam Riverside California
TEXTRON FINANCIAL AVIATION FINANCE DIVISION JUDGING SPONSORS CHOICE Stinson SR-6A NC15127 Max amp Rene Davis Waconia Minnesota
Vintage Plaques Antique Outstanding Customized Aircraft Waco ZPF-7 N29962 Leslie Whittlesey Coto De Caza California
Runner-Up Customized Aircraft Boeing Stearman A75J1 N570SN Charles Luigs Bandera Texas
Silver Age (1928-1932) Outstanding Open Cockpit Biplane Great Lakes 2T-1A NS41H Cameron Saure Reynolds North Dakota
Outstanding Closed Cockpit Monoplane Monocoupe N543W Robert Coolbaugh Manassas Virginia
Runner-Up Closed Cockpit Monoplane Curtiss Robin N263E
Glenn Peck Maryland Heights Missouri
Bronze Age (1933-1941) Runner-Up Closed Cockpit Monoplane Spartan Executive NC17616 Ken amp Lorraine Morris Poplar Grove Illinois
Outstanding Closed Cockpit Biplane Waco ZOC-6 NC16203 Les Cashmere McAlester Oklahoma
Outstanding Open Cockpit Biplane DeHaviliand Tiger Moth DH82A N8879 Michael Williams Columbus Indiana
World War II Era (1942-1945) Runner-Up Closed Cockpit Biplane Beechcraft Staggerwing N1532M Bob Strunk Union Kentucky
Vintage Plaques Classic Best Aeronca Champ Aeronca Champ 7 AC N81585 Wayne Raye Stockbridge Georgia
Best Beechcraft Twin Beech D18S N213SP Alan Wright Naples Florida
Best Bellanca Bellanca 14-19 N6563N Charles Should is Rapid City South Dakota
Best Cessna 120140 Cessna 140 N89221 J Young Hudson Wisconsin
Best Cessna 170180 Cessna 170 N4034V John Nielsen Bloomer W isconsin
Best Cessna 190195 Cessna 195B N195SB Scott Boynton Campbell Hall New York
Best Ercoupe Ercoupe N2679
David Abrams Salem New Hampshire
Best Luscombe Luscombe 8A NC45504 James Zazas Carthage North Carolina
Best Navion Ryan Navion N4891 K Charles Stites Chapel Hill North Carolina
Best Piper J-3 Piper J-3 Cub NC88113 Willard Beatty Jr Holly Springs North Carolina
Best Piper Other Piper PA-18 N160CW Charles Wiplinger Inver Grove Height Minnesota
Best Stinson Stinson 108-3 N6355M Neil Logerwell Kent Washington
Best Swift Swift GC-1 B N3378K Jared Smith Huntington Beach California
Best Taylorcraft Taylorcraft BC12D N96841 Elmer Marting Monona Iowa
Best Limited Production DeHaviliand Beaver N34EB Paul Oakes Wasilla Alaska
Most Unique Emigh Trojan N8351 H Jerry Petro Williamsburg Virginia
Preservation Aeronca Chief NC4128E Edward Maxwell Louisville Kentucky
Vintage Plaques Contemporary Outstanding Beech Single Engine Bonanza N35 N1397Z Richard amp Dawn Barnett Waldron Arkansas
Outstanding Beech Multiengine Beech G18S N933GM Carla Payne Fort Worth Texas
Outstanding Cessna 150 Cessna 150 N7835E Robert Unternaehrer Brunswick Missouri
Outstanding Cessna 170172175 Cessna 172C N1499Y Randall Hockenberry Ft Wayne Indiana
Outstanding Cessna 180182-210 Cessna 182B N8407T Roger Schmidt Big Bear Lake California
Outstanding Piper PA-22 Tri Pacer PA-22 Tri-Pacer N9508D Tim Lewis amp John Brandon Jonesboro Arkansas
Outstanding Piper PA-24 Comanche PA-24 Comanche N45MB Kelly Wright Spokane Washington
Outstanding Mooney Mooney N6402U Raymond Miller Colorado Springs Colorado
Outstanding Limited Production Aircoupe F-1A N3044G Jack Arthur Des Moines Iowa
Outstanding Custom Class I Single Engine (0-160 hp) Piper PA-22-150 N6043D James Douglass Kennedyville Missouri
Outstanding Custom Class III Single Engine (231 hp amp higher) Piper PA-24 N8071 P Jim Simmons Nashville Tennessee
Outstanding Class IV Multi Engine Piper PA-23 N3187P Michael Luigs Bandera Texas
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 3
VAANEWS compiled by HG Frautschy
COVERS FRONT COVER Ronnie Cox and Greg Davis of Fort Lauderdale Florida cruise above Floridas Gulf Coast waters with their 1962 250 Comanche EM photo by Jim Koepnick shot with a Canon EOS1 n equipped with an 80-200 mm lens on 100 ASA Fuji slide film EM Cessna 210 photo plane flown by Bruce Moore
BACK COVER Fay Gillis Summer 29 is the title of Frank Warrens acrylic painting awardshyed an Excellence ribbon in the 2001 EAA Sport Aviation Art competition It depicts a young Fay beside a Curtiss Fledgling at Garden City Long Island in August 1929 A month later she was forced to bailout of a Fledgling becoming the second female memshyber of the Caterpillar Club Fay was a charshyter member of the 99sFrank Warren can be reached at fljlwearthlinknet or by calling 805967-5473
SPORT PI LOT
ALMOST READY FOR NPRM
EAA President Tom Poberezny has written to FAA Administrator Jane Garvey and US Secretary of Transshyportation Norman Mineta asking for their personal intervention to expedite the return of the proposed sport pilot package back to the FAA one of the many steps in the process headed toshywards the publication of a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM)
Tom wrote Over the last eight years a tremendous volume of work-by both the government and the private sector-has gone into moving this complex regulatory package to its current status We reshyquest that you keep the same level of emphasis on completing the final steps to publication by facilitating every opportunity for expeditious handling by the Office of Manageshyment and Budget
Tom reiterated EAAs appreciation for DOTs and FAAs public comshymitment and acknowledgement of [sport pilots] positive impact reshy
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During EAA AirVenture Oshkosh the Vintage Aircraft Association and EAAs Government Services office hosted a meeting with the FAAs Mike Gallagher and Tom McSweeney (right) along with most of the type club representatives who attended the Convention Aging airshycraft issues were the primary topics of discussion In particular the thorny issues concerning the release of technical information by type certificate holders and especially the disposition of that same information related to long dormant type certificates was discussed As pointed out by Gallagher the FAA cannot legally release information unless the type certificate has been surrendered
Also discussed was the ongoing process of Airworthiness Concern Sheets (ACS) and the general consensus was that the program is working well to head off potential Airworthiness Directives Both Gallagher and McSweeney pointed out that only half of the ACS issued during 2001 had become Airworthiness Directives In previous years they all would have become ADs
An ACS issued on the spring steel main landing gear installed on older Cessnas was the subject of another meeting hosted by EAAs Government Programs specialist Randy Hansen and the Cessna Pilots Association President John Frank The meeting was intended to gather firsthand information about any difficulties being experienced with the gear by owneroperashytors It was their opinion that the difficulties highlighted by the FAAs sheet were the result of operations outside of what was considered normal and that the issue could be properly dealt with by adherence to a Cessna service bulletin EAA and the Cessna Pilots Association used input from that meeting to help formulate the response to the ACS
garding increased safety and imshyproved economy of recreational aviation (You can read Toms letters on the EAA sport pilot website at wwwsportpiotorg)
The proposed sport pilot rule has the potential to impact many vintage airshyplane owneroperators who may be able to operate their aircraft under a new set of rules For more detailed inshyfonnation you can read Sport Pilot For the Vintage Airman in the June issue of Vintage Airplane or you can read it online at wwwvintageaircra(torg
Volunteers make the world of EAA and VAA happen and one of this years enhancements to the vintage area was the installation of a new windsock frame and sock Behind the scenes in EAAs workshops a number of volunteers spend their summers helping us spruce up the place and Barb Lowell was kind enough to sew up the new bright red windsock featured in the August issue Barb and her husband John have been coming to EAA to volunteer for more than eight years They hail from Bulverde Texas After their arrival in May Barb and her fellow volunteers in the sewing room repair the flags and banners that decorate the EAA grounds and sewing replacement wind socks Later (n the summer they help decorate the EAA grounds by planting thousands of flowers on the convention grounds Our thanks to Barb and the many others who spend their summers helping us here at EAA and VAA
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Vintage Aircraft Markings Comments
Your article on markings is very good and needed I might add We run into these issues all the time Mostly with FAA inspectors oddly enough who dont run into anshytiques all that often I thought Id highlight a couple of points that may also be worthy of mention
Many owners confuse the use of the c or R or X on their airshyplanes with use on the registrations or other permanent records such as 337s The regulation refers to disshyplay on the aircraft but no other use And the FAA continues to use the common N number without the additional letter on all documents Sometimes a registration will pass with the extra letter but usually they will request that it be drafted without
Note paragraph 4522(b) the part that says may be operated without displaying marks in accordance with paragraphs 4521 and 4523 through 4533 if (then it goes on to detail the display of the C R X L etc) What this means is if the aircraft is experimental for instance the 2-inch high (or more) EXPERIshyMENTAL placard need not be displayed This is the one the inshyspectors always miss They go right for the cabin entry or passenger cockpit and look for the EXPERIshyMENTAL billboard Not having to put this on the airplane is a real plus for an owner with an aircraft that has the same external configurashy
tion as an aircraft built at least 30 years ago in other words a replica
Hope this is helpful Im probably preaching to the choir here as you always publish inSightful comment on the FARs
Roy Redman (VAA 777) Faribault Minnesota
I have just finished reading Vinshytage Aircraft Markings and would like to make this comment The FAA is not judging our airplanes I have judged EAA aircraft at our local flyshyins for more than a decade although not at Oshkosh All of the informashytion I have or have seen concerning judging stresses authenticity Over the years I have rebuilt several airshycraft that are now antiques It distresses me greatly to see a beautishyfully restored aircraft and then have the restorer take a shortcut and put on modern numbers This is not authentic as the aircraft did not come out of the factory this way If I inspect the airplane you can be sure that I will go over it minutely and nitpick I would suggest that in fushyture gUidelines to judges that authenticity be again stressed I wouldnt go so far as to require Grade A cotton although this of course is what was probably origishynally used
John Beebe (VAA 19313) White Stone Virginia
During the judging process all markshyings on the aircraft both the registration numbers and smaller placshyards and decals are judged on their authenticity The guidelines published for use by EAAVAA judges stress that concept Heres what the guidelines have to say
I FORWARD Throughout these standards
will be found the one concept that reshyflects the opinion of the majority of those individuals contacted during the development of these guidelines That concept is authenticity The standards are constructed to encourage the indishyvidual to complete and maintain a factory fresh aircraft If the individshyuals desire is to deviate from this goal for personal whim or other reasons the cost ofnot conforming to pure aushythenticity is known in advance A portion of the guidelines pertain[s] to the documentation of authenticity as it relates to the aircraft The exhibitor is encouraged to prove the authenticity with pictures letters factory specificashytions or any of the means which will alleviate the need for judges opinion in determining authenticity
For the complete text ofEAA s Judgshying Standards manual you can buy a copy by calling EAA Membership Sershyvices at 800843-3612 or you can view the pages on EAA s website at wwwairventureorg 200ljudging -HG Frautschy
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 5
AMIR Originally published in the September 1924 issue of The Wide World Magazine
BY JAM~S WHITTAH~R
ILLUSTRAT~D BY FE HIL~Y
On February 17th last at Ellington Field Houston Texas Gates Flying Circus
a well-known American company of stunt flyers was giving an exhibishytion for the benefit of the Thirty-sixth Division Air Service of the American Army One of the scheduled items was a daring parashychute descent by a y~)Ung chorus girl Rosalie Gordon It was not the first time she had essayed the feat having worked with the Gates Circus on the Pacific coast the previous year
Dressed in a white satin pilots uniform with little red buttons she ascended in a plane driven by Clyde Pangborn one of the Circus finest pilots Behind her in the rear cockpit sat Milton Girton who was to assist her in her preparations for the leap
It had rained in the morning the sky was full of low-lying clouds and at two thousand feet it was decided that she should make her leap The parachute was in a container tied to the landing gear of the plane with a short rope another rope connected the parachute with the girl who stepped coolly out onto the wing inshy
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spected the harness about her waist to see that it was properly adjusted and then jumped off into space
For a dozen feet or so she dropped headlong momentarily expecting the canopy of the parachute to open as usual and check her swift descent Instead she suddenly felt a terrific jerk and found that she was hanging suspended underneath the aeroshyplane trailing after it at the end of the ropes attached to the harness about her waist Her light weight was not enough to spring the trap of the parachute and a ring at the edge of the canvas canopy to which one of
the supporting ropes was attached had caught on a rod projecting from the landing gear From this fixture Miss Gordon now swung helplessly above the heads of the crowd
It was a fearful predicament Unshyable to crawl back or to free the parachute it seemed that certain death awaited the poor girl As long as the petrol lasted she was comparshyatively safe-unless she became detached and the parachute still failed to open-but once the plane was forced to land she would inshyeVitably be dragged to death beneath it Unless she could somehow be got
back onto the plane nothing could save her
Below the crowd of five thousand people looked on for a while uncomshyprehendingly To them it was at present all part of the show but the personnel of the Circus and the other practical aviators on the ground realshyized only too well the tragedy that was threatening Orders rang out sharp and decisive and half-a-dozen planes took to the air circling vainly about the swinging girl in an atshytempt to solve the problem The onlookers began to understand that something was seriously amiss Planes of the type used-this one was equipped with a 180 hp Hisso motor-land at express speed Thirty miles an hour is the minimum which meant that Rosalie would be dashed to pieces and her body manshygled beneath the tailskid directly as the machine came down As it was the anxious Pangborn having swooped earthwards to let those beshylow see her predicament the helpless girl hung perilously near the rough ground
Plane after plane with men lying out along the wing surfaces knife in hand hoping to cut her loose if posshysible swept past Pangborns machine risking imminent collision All of them however failed as did the frantic efforts of Girton himself who crawled out onto the landing gear and for half an hour battled desshyperately to pull the girl up to a perch on the axle and comparative safety But a previous hour of daredevil stunts had weakened him and he found his strength insufficient for the task
Then it was that Thompson one of the would-be rescuers swooped ground wards with his plane Someshything white fluttered from his machine as he rose again with a roar An official picked the object up-a piece of cardboard on which was the scribbled message Send Freddy up with a rope Will pick him up He can help pull her Up
It was cryptic enough to the uninishytiated but those who knew realized
INSTINCTIV~LY
PANGBORN AND
THOMPSON R~AD
WHAT WAS IN ON~
ANOTH~RS MINDS AND
SOON TH~ TWO
MACHIN~S W~R~
SAILING SID~-BY-SID[
WING ALMOST
TOUCHING WING
that one of the most daring feats ever attempted was to be put into operation to save the apparently doomed girl
Presently Thompson came to earth and into his plane climbed Freddy Lund a former member of the Circus but now in commercial life Up toward Pangborns machine with that helpless figure dangling beshyneath it Thompsons aeroplane shot until it was flying close below Lund climbing out on the upper wing reached frantically up in an effort to grasp Rosalies feet in the hope that their combined weight would release the catch of the parachute and let them both down to safety But the bumpy rise and fall of the planes made the maneuver impossible and it was speedily evident that another and even more desperate method would have to be tried if the girl was to be saved
Instinctively Pangborn and Thompson read what was in one anshyothers minds and soon the two machines were sailing side-by-side wing almost touching wing Then Lund swung himself down a stage lower and the crowd below gasped Hundreds of binoculars showed what was to be attempted and men and women sank on their knees and prayed openly that the fearless men aloft might be able to carry out their purpose
Just when it seemed that the two machines must become locked in a death grip which would send both of them hurtling to destruction Lund stretched out a hand grasped a strut on Pangborns plane and leapt across the gulf For an instant he swayed slid almost fell and then a great shout went up Hes done it Hes done it
It was a wonderful effort Usually this change from plane to plane pershyilous enough at the best of times is only attempted with nonskid strips on the wings and rubber shoes on the feet of the aviator Lund made it with slippery leather-soled boots on wings like shining glass
Only he knew how near he was to failure as a matter of fact his feet slid away beneath him but he clung to the strut with all his strength and so saved himself A white-faced man down below dropped his field glasses and gasped
Its a miracle he said solemnly But the rescue was far from being
accomplished yet Recovering himshyself Lund scrambled into the cockpit and then out of that and down onto the landing gear where Girton was still continuing his vain efforts to haul the girl up Together they heaved and strained at the rope but it was quickly seen from below that their combined efforts were inshysufficient and a groan broke from the crowd when Lund was seen laboshyriously climbing back into the cockpit
Theyve failed Theyve failed The cry went up
It certainly seemed so and matshyters looked grave for the anxious officials of the Circus knew that the sands of time were fast running out in another direction The petrol supshyply carried by the plane was limited Once it was exhausted and landing was imperative in which case nothshying could save the girl if she remained in her present position Many of the offiCials in fact were convinced that she was as good as dead already
Not so Pangborn and Lund how-
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After the ordeal Rosalie Gordon is seen in the centre with Lund who rescued her on the right The two other aviators are Pangborn and Thompson
came to earth in perfect fashion The onlookers released from the
restraint of their pent-up emotions at once surged wildly forward on to the ground but mounted attendants and armed police drove them back and an ambulance came dashing up with screeching horn
From underneath the plane crawled three disheveled but almost unhurt figures The two aviators had taken the slight shock of a perfect landing on their broad backs and they rose to their feet stiffly specks of blood on their faces and wrists from cuts caused by the rope from which Rosalie Gordon had been susshypended Daredevil flyers though they were both they and Pangborn showed the strain of the last halfshyhour All of them were white-faced and trembling
I was afraid the petrol would give out said Pangborn I kept circling over a little lake out there I thought that if we were forced to land it would be better than the ground
He walked over and measured the spirit in his tank and his face was eloquent He had just three minutes supply left
At first the little actress laughed hysterically but when a friend Esshyther Gray rushed up to her and embraced her she broke down and cried
So ended one of the biggest thrills and one of the finest exhibitions of heroism in the history of aviation Few flying men possess sufficient skill to carry out the work of the resshycue accomplished by Pangborn Lund and Girton-fewer still pershyhaps would have had the courage to attempt it
Seven years later Clyde Pangborn would be world famous for being the pilot on the first nonstop crossshying of the Pacific but in 1924 his cool head helped save a young lady parachutist from certain death
ever A few shouted words between them and then Lund took over the controls while Pangborn descended the frail under-rigging supports and joined the indefatigable Girton on the landing gear
Pangborn was slight of build but marvelously strong an open-air life and constant exercise had given him sinews of steel Crooking one leg over the axle and hanging on with one hand he slipped the other foot down and got a toehold under the girls belt Immediately she clasped him round the leg and with Girton carrying out a similar maneuver she was slowly raised until both men could reach her with their free hands A mighty heave and they hauled her into comparative safety on the axle-a wooden crosspiece three inches wide between the landshying wheels One says comparative safety advisedly There was little more than three feet of clearance beshytween the axle and the base of the plane and it was still a tossup whether through the give of the springs in landing anyone on the axle would not be crushed It was a risk that had to be taken however
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for nothing more could be done Once more Pangborn changed
places with Lund while Miss Gorshydon clung to the axle in a half-fainting condition Considering the fearful mental strain she had unshydergone her demeanor had been admirable she had followed the mens attempts to rescue her coolly and intelligently and had done everything she could to help them It was no wonder that the reaction was now making itself felt
Unfamiliar as he was with the controls of the plane Lund preferred the more dangerous job of holding Miss Gordon on the landing gear to the task of attempting to land So (swarming down) he took his placed beside her while the pilot dropped earthward in slow wide circles
The management fearing an accishydent when the landing was made sent a motorcar out onto the field in case the three people clinging to the gear might prefer to try and drop into it as it ran along under the plane Pangborn however perhaps wisely preferred the risks of a regushylar landing and in a final long swoop he swept over the grass and
MOST AVIATORS VIVIDLY REMEMBER
THEIR FIRST AIRPLANE RIDE AND CHERISH
THAT FOND MEMORY
AND THOSE OF US WHO HAVE BEEN
FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO OWN OUR OWN
AIRPLANE REMEMBER THAT IN VIVID
DETAIL AS WELL By Ev CASSAGNERES
We remember how we found it and the details of that first step in our aviation
life Perhaps that purchase was made under unique circumstances not simply by writing a check You may find the story of my first airplane similar to yours you may find it just plain interesting or you may be startshying that search
This story begins shortly after Aushygust 141945 V] Day the end of World War II On September 27 that same year I applied for and was hired as a line boy for Reynolds Flying Service at the New Haven Municipal Airport near New Haven Connecticut
I was in high school (Hillhouse High) at that time and would ride my
bull Irs
bicycle to school every day rain snow or shine Then to get to work after school I rode it to the airport I did all the dirty work sweeping out the hangar and shop gassing and oilshying airplanes and washing and hand-propping airplanes when necesshysary Some were as big as Pratt amp Whitney R-985s I also helped out in the shop with repairs rib stitching and doping
Later that month I was on a bus ridshying from New Haven to my home in Westville a suburb of New Haven As we headed out Edgewood Avenue I happened to look out the window on the right side and nearly went nuts with excitement at what I saw It was in the yard of the Acme Auto Top Company
As soon as I got home I jumped onto my bicycle and rode back to see that airplane at Acme When [ met the owner Steve he said he wanted to sell it for $80 He showed me the wings tail surfaces and prop which were inshyside the building
The airplane was a 1929 Comshymand-Aire 3C-3T serial number 614 registration number NC901E It had a Curtiss OX-5 engine serial number 2116
The wings had silver fabric the
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fuselage was red and the tail surshyfaces were silver I was absolutely thrilled to just touch it I was only 17 years old and wondered how in the world I would ever come up with $80 for the airplane It was beautiful even though it most likely needed a complete rebuild to airshyworthy condition As partial payment for my work as a line boy I had been taking dual instruction in a Piper J-3C65 I wondered if I could even fly this airplane
At about this time I was also getshyting into serious bicycle racing through my friend Phil Kittredge who was already the Connecticut State Junior Champion He was not a pilot but agreed to be a partner in this endeavor Between us we came up with $15 as a down payment which we gave to Steve with a promise to get the rest as soon as we could
I went to work setting pins in loshycal bowling alleys and did some caddying at Yale Golf Course near where I lived both good jobs for a teenager at that time Phil and I
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These two shots are from the collection of Shelby Hagberg and are of the very ship forshymerly owned by then 17-yearshyold Ev Cassagneres Its a 1929 Command-Aire 3C-3T NC901 E serial number 614 Taken at Curtiss Field on Long Island New York The airplane was painted with silver wings and horizontal tail surface and a red fuselage and rudder
could not seem to raise enough cash to satisfy the airplane owner so we lost out on the deal and he kept the 15 bucks Of course we were devastated
In the meantime a local affluent gentleman who also collected anshytique automobiles managed to purchase the Command-Aire He had it moved out in the country in the town of Bethany It sat there out in a field with the wings laid out in the grass of an open field deterioratshying in the elements Occasionally I would cycle out there to look at it touch it and dream or fantasize
On January 21 1946 the new owner who knew who I was and that I was interested in the airplane called me and asked if I was still inshyterested He said he would sell it on a trade basis Needless to say I would come up with something
I happened to have a French-built Automoto bicycle that I was quite fond of but would be willing to part with It was worth about $80 so we did an even swap Now I had to find a place to put it and figure out a way
to get it home about 5 miles My friend Phil came to the rescue
again You see my own parents never did own a car or have drivers licenses Phil had the use of his fashythers 1937 Plymouth four-door car So we tied the tailskid in the trunk with clothesline rope and put the wings on the roof secured with ropes tied all over the place
We started out to drive the 5 miles to my house in Westville Well two young sporty guys couldshynt just go straight there and that would be that could they We realshyized that the local high school was due out at 230 in the afternoon So we just happened to detour with all of this interesting cargo over some hills to the school and we got there just as the students were getshyting out Many we knew and of course we directed our attention mainly to the girls So whats the story they would ask and that was all we needed We ahem had just flown down from some exotic place in northern Canada and planned on rebuilding the airplane for some other exotic adventure It was amazshying how convincing we could be and how gullible they were We did all of this while wearing an old pair of gogshygles and a helmet and with mischievous faces they still believed us so we let it go at that We laughed all the way home
The airplane sat in my backyard the rest of the winter as I worked on it although I really did not know what I was doing I did get the enshygine running a couple of times The sound and smell was exciting like a concert orchestra to me My parents gave me a lot of encouragement and enjoyed my project
However my enthusiasm and fanshytasy of flight were not to last very long We lived on the third floor of a three-family house and the landlord was not at all happy over this kid having an airplane in the backyard of our neighborhood So it had to go What to do We did not own a car so no garage was available and I could not find any other suitable
This shot taken at Curtiss Field as well clearly shows the split-axle landing gear and Fokker Dvll-styled wing center section as designed by famed aero engineer Albert Voellmecke
place for it So the bottom line was simple-I had to sell it And I never even took a picture of it nor did any of the neighbors
A schoolmate of mine by the name of Billy Gilbert also a stushydent pilot showed some interest and he lived in the town of Bethany That town had a grass runway airport and it was one of the oldest airports in New Engshyland where supposedly American Airlines got started Famous aviashytors had flown out of there names such as Bert Acosta Clarence Chamberlin Guss Graff Jack Tweed Franklin T Hank Kurt Bob Noorduyn (Norseman) and Batch Pond (Pond Creams) (The Bethany airport managed to stay in existence until the early 1980s)
On May 291946 Billy Gilbert came to the house with a farm rack truck and $30 loaded up the airshyplane and drove away That was the last time I saw it as r stood there and cried However I had hidden the propeller in our basement and still
have it as a memento in addition to a section of wing fabric with the black number NC901E on it
So what became of that old airshyplane Billy wen t into the Navy and his parents eventually sold the ship to a local junk and scrap dealer who was mainly interested in the OX engine That was the end of it I searched many years later but it was gone
Years later I came across many Command-Aire photographs and the ones shown with this article are all I have of that fond memory
Sometime after that I owned a 1941 Waco UPF-7 which I made my first dollar with by towing signs allover the place out of the Bethany airport and then a 1936 Ryan ST and now I have a 1953 Cessna 170B which I fly often (my first closed-in type)
Sometimes for old times sake r will fly the 170 with helmet and goggles and white scarf and the winshydows open See one never loses the thrill of real flight
In closing I can say that if one wants to fly bad enough one will find a way It is a healthy disease that can be most appreciated as you feel the wind in your face up in the air over our beautiful countryside
What else do I do now for fun My new book The Untold Story of The Spirit Of St Louis will be out next year 2002 the 75th annivershysary of Lindberghs epic flight This book has been a labor of love for decades and it will be published by Historic Aviation Books
When that is done I plan to write the history of Command-Aire and also some Connecticut aviation hisshytory In particular Im going to document the stories of the Cairns airplane the Kimball Beetle sevenshycylinder aircraft radial engine the Scorpion aircraft engine the Bristol gliders that were manufactured on Edgewood Avenue near the Acme Auto Top Company (see story) and the Bourdon- and Viking-built Kitty Hawk airplanes
After that I may retire
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TYPE CLUB
Some Thoughts on Restoration and Airworthiness Originally appeared in Waco World News Vol I No 36 MaylJune 2001
by Robert G Lock
Restoring an airplane is a lot like flying-hours and hours of someshytimes boring work separated by a few moments of stark terror As one approaches the end of a restoration project there comes a time for certishyfication by the FAA unless the airplane has a permanent airworthishyness certificate Receiving that all-important permanent standard airworthiness certificate is the final objective This article will give some background on past certification procedures especially for airplanes that go back to the beginning of government rules and regulations
Governments entry into aviashytion essentially began with the creation of the Aeronautics Branch of the Department of Commerce Near the top of the agenda of the new bureaucracy was the certificatshying of airplanes pilots and eventually mechanics Approved type certificates (ATC) began in March 1927 and continue to this day Registration numbers were reshyquired and were painted on the wings and tail The Roman capital letter N denoting registration in the United States followed by the letter C for commercial X for
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experimental R for restricted and L for limited were adopted Design requirements needed for an ATC were contained in Aeronautics Bulletin 7 later 7A ATCs were numshybered sequentia lly beginning with 1 and ending with 817 (a new ATC numbering system was introduced after number 817) The certificating of pilots and later mechanics closely followed as the government tried to regulate the beginning of the aviation industry
Obtaining an ATC to manufacshyture and sell an airplane was costly even in the early days Group 2 apshyprovals were awarded to a person or company when only a limited numshyber of aircraft were to be built either as a new design or as a modification of an existing airplane being manushyfactured under an ATe The Group 2 approvals were cheaper and easier to obtain but design and manufacshyture were equiva lent to approved type cert ificates
An important item to remember is that if an airplane was designed to Aeronautics Bulletin 7 or 7A it still must meet those requirements toshyday So for some restorers a copy of this manual is helpful
Another bit of information critishycal to certification is that there were no permanent airworthiness certifishycates in the old days A representative of the government re -certificated the airplane annushyally and a new airworthiness certificate was issued The papershywork f i le in Washington DC became immense There was a file folder for each registered aircraft and all hard copy paperwork was meticulously maintained Even telegrams were retained
Each file folder was a complete diary of the airplane from owners to inspections and repairs Some of this data is available today on mishycrofiche For most all aircraft the original hard copy files have been placed on microfiche and then the hard copy fi les were destroyed I have seen original files that are still stored in Suitland Maryland Most of those files are not on microfiche
ATC data is also known as type design data Type design data can be found in the Aircraft Listing Enshygine Listing and Prope ll er Listing (for fewer than SO airp lanes regisshytered) and in the Aircraft Engine and Propeller Specification Sheets
for the middle-aged aircraft For airplanes of this vintage this
is the only source of data for the reshystorer If youre really lucky there may be copies of original factory drawings available as a valuable supplement However most of the factory drawings for many antique aircraft have been destroyed Fortushynately for Waco restorers factory drawings are available Drawings are invaluable when restoring old airplanes I searched for the Comshymand-Aire drawings but determined that they had all been destroyed However in my search I did locate some valuable type deshysign data from a most unusual source which might be fuel for anshyother story
In the mid 1930s the aviation inshydustry continued to grow By an act of Congress the government creshyated the Civil Aeronautics Administration (CAA) The CAA took regulations created by the Aeronautics Branch of the Departshyment of Commerce and expanded its bureaucratic role in aviation It created Civil Aviation Regulations (CAR) and Civil Aviation Manuals (CAM) Requirements of approved type were now contained in the CARs CAR 3 was certification for small aircraft Also to appear was the mechanics bible CAM 18 which spelled out requirements for major repairs to aircraft This publishycation evolved into the present FAA Advisory Circulars AC4313-1B andshy2B which give data on major repairs and alterations
The annual re-certificating of airshycraft was still required and a new airworthiness certificate was given to the owner after the airplane was approved for return to service As the workload increased a new method of certificating was created DeSignated aircraft maintenance inshyspectors (DAM I) were selected to take over the re-certificating duties These were well-experienced airshy
craft and engine (AampE) mechanics that were hand selected by local CAA maintenance inspectors The airworthiness certificate was still isshysued every year but in the mid-1950s about the time that the Federal Aviation Agency (FAA) came to power things began to change for airworthiness certificates They became permanent The aircraft could be re-certificated every year by a DAMI and later by an FAA airshyframe and powerplant (AampP) mechanic who holds an inspection authorization (IA) So today the AampP with IA can return to service annual inspections many major reshypairs and some major alterations
Congress created the Federal Avishyation Agency in 1958 Soon after the word II Agency was dropped in favor of II Administration And government control and bureaushycracy continued to grow ever larger
While we are on the subject of the FAA perhaps an easy method to distinguish differences between mashyjor repairs and major alterations is to apply the following
If the repair returns the aircraft to its original type certificate afshyfects airworthiness and cannot be done using elementary techniques then it is a major repair
If the repair (or modification) alshyters conformity to the original type design data then it is a major alteration
If an AampP mechanic cannot apshyprove a major repair or major alteration then a field approval by an FAA maintenance inspector must be obtained Sometimes this is more complicated than can be imagined Maybe a future story on FAA field approvals would prove inshyteresting
If an aircraft has never had a pershymanent airworthiness certificate then one must be obtained Here again the FAA issues this certifishycate To obtain that treasured piece of paper you must fill out an applishy
cation and prove that the airplane conforms to its type certificate Sometimes this is very difficult Esshypecially if the original type design data is incomplete or missing I have seen file cabinets in FAA headshyquarters with drawers containing type design data Just like Joe Juptshyners US Civil Aircraft books each drawer had a folder with the ATC number on top Some of the folders contained data while some were empty When the folder was empty the FAA had no type design data other than data that was published in Aircraft Engine and Propeller Listing which is not very much
For the coveted permanent airshyworthiness certificate an FAA representative will conduct a conshyformity inspection The basis for the inspection could be one or more of the following FAA Airshycraft Engine and Propeller Listing or Specification Sheets microfiche of original aircraft records containshying airworthiness and registration data factory drawings (if available) and aircraft and engine operating limitations
In addition current weight and balance calculations with critical forward and aft loading (if reshyquired) a loading schedule (if required) and appropriate placardshying must be included A list of required optional and special equipment must accompany the weight and balance data And lastly FAA Form 337 (Major Repair amp Mashyjor Alteration) must be completed by the supervising AampPIA Aircraft and engine logbooks must have apshypropriate entries made and registration data must be shown After many months (or should I say years) of restoration work perhaps that small piece of paper that says PERMANENT AIRWORTHINESS CERTIFICATE-STANDARD is now in your hand Categories of the airshyworthiness certificate are NORMAL UTILITY and ACROBATIC
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Mike Sleineke
Yeah well just strip it and paint it
Shouldnt take more than a month Thats what Ronnie Cox and Greg Davis of Ft Lauderdale Florida said about their 1962 250 Comanche
Sound familiar That kind of comshyment is right up there with Well just clean up a few of the instrushyments or Gee wouldnt it look better with a new windshield
Not once in the history of vinshytage con tern porary airplanes has anyone
1 Removed just one part painted it and put it right back on without removing a bunch more first
2 Started to do just one restoration operation eg re-bush the landing gear and done only that one thing
3 Taken an engine off overhauled it and put it back on without redoshying everything in sight
4 Reupholstered just the front seats and stopped there
You get the picture Airplanes are a lot like tar babies and once you get
your fingers into them they generally suck you in right up to your navel and don t let you go until theres nothing left to do
Ronnie and Greg were both lookshying for a serious cross-country airplane they could use to run from Florida up to Ronnies summer house in the Michigan islands Ronnie had owned three Comanches in the past so that was his bird of choice For Greg it would be his first airplane ownership
Ronnie had a long history of airshyplane ownership and involvement because his dad was heavily involved in aircraft and used to fly him all over the country Plus he owned a long string of airplanes including a PT-19 and a bunch of Pipers including Tri-Pacers Pacers and such
Ronnie started flying while he was still based in Ohio in the 1960s
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The 2S0-hp six-cylinder Lycoming gives the Comanche Bonanza-rivaling speed (a cruise of 161 to 181 mph) and a useful load carrying capacity of up to 1200 pounds
Updated radios and a refurbished interior make the Comanche a comfortable cross-country speedster
and his wife and son learned to fly from the same CFI who taught both his father and him to fly
Cox an elecshytrical engineer by training had started his own enshygineering business years ago and even worked a Seneca II into it for corposhyrate transportation so by the time the 1962 Comanche entered thei r lives he had 5500 hours of flying time He recently sought a change in career and sold his business to fly for a comshymuter airline
Ronnie also had a business buildshying engines for drag racers that Greg said really helped because Ronshynie just has a feel for what has to be done to a machine mechanically to make it right
Cox enjoyed rebuilding airplanes almost from the beginning and his total restoration of a Cessna 140 won a Lindy Award as recognition that he was a hands-on kind of guy who farmed out as little of his airplane reshybuilding projects as possible However it was in looking for a little help while his son and he were reshybuilding his sons Cessna 120 (which also won a Lindy) that he met Greg Davis
We needed to have some alushyminum bent to make up a new spar doubler for the 120 Ronnie said and someone suggested we contact
this guy on the other side of the field Ronnie
laughed when he said this inshydicating something was coming We walked in with the original
doubler in our hand which was a litshytle crude and showed it to Greg This
was the first time Id laid eyes on him Ronnie said
He looked at the doubler threw it down and said No I cant make something like this I thought he was joking or something Then he said If I make it itll be better than that Greg can be a little cantankerous and Ronnie Cox laughed again
Greg Davis has run Davis Aircraft Services in Ft Lauderdale since 1985 and he specializes in doing structural repairs on corporate airplanes As such he has developed both the facilshyity and ability to do practically anything with sheet metal So beshytween Ronnies mechanical ability and Gregs feeling for sheet metal there was practically nothing they couldnt do to a little airplane
I had been part of an RV-4 buildshying project but got out of it because I was just too busy flying a friends Pitts S-2B Greg explained He said I could fly it as much as I wanted so I started competing and between that and work I didnt really have the time to own my own airplane
There was something about the chemistry between the two men that prompted them to want a cross-counshy
try airplane that could carry two guys 120 gallons of gas and our bagshygage Enter the Comanche
They ran into the airplane in Aushygust 1992 and it was a really sad example of the breed but the price was right and the sheet metal looked good Also it had no corrosion
Then they started comparing the logbooks to the actual airplane and found that someone had a fanciful imagination when it came to the defishynition of airworthiness directive (AD) compliance The Comanche has a bunch of fairly serious and expenshysive ADs Ronnie pointed out Over the years someone had been signing off the ADs but not doing them As they put it the airplane had about 25 years of pencil maintenance
We found a perfect example of how well this airplane was mainshytained when we replaced the tires One of the tubes was dated 1962 and had been on the airplane since it was built Greg said
The airplane had also been landed gear-up at some point in its career Again the previous keepers of the logs didnt see fit to mention this litshytle incident There were a bunch of scab patches on the belly we had to get rid of and we put new gear doors on it
Their approach to the sheet metal was simple If a panel needed a repair they would just replace the panel We re-skinned part of the turtledeck
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WHAT OUR MEMBERS ARE RESTORING by HG Frautschy and Norm Petersen
AERONCA 7DC Sitting on the grass at Lee Bottom Airport near Louisville Kentucky Mark
and Wendie Paszkiewiczs (VAA 580997) 1946 Aeronca 7DC is ready for a flight in the warm hazy skies along the Ohio River First delivered as a 7 AC to a Phoenix Arizona flight school in 1946 with the installation of a Conshytinental 85-hp engine it became an Aeronca 7De Partially restored when they bought the project Mark and Wendie couldnt resist rebuilding some parts Now they fly the Champ around to local fly-ins and just have fun in it after work
CHAMPION 7GCB Posed in the afternoon sunshine of Sky
Harbor Airport in Duluth Minnesota is a beautiful 1962 Champion 7GCB N9912Y serial number 7GCB-133 mounted on an immaculate set of PKshy1800 floats Recently re-covered and painted by veteran mechanic Don Macor (VAA 28788) of Duluth Minnesota this particular aircraft is quite rare in that it has only 706 hours total time on airframe and engine has a factory original outside baggage compartment door and is one of only six 7GCBs remaining on the US Register In addition during its entire 39shyyear lifespan only one authorized inspectors name is in the aircraft logshybooks-Don Macor Don reports the airframe was in very good shape with only minor surface rust on a few places The covering is Ceconite 101 with bushytyrate dope in Daytona white Miami blue and black trim Note the seaplane auxiliary fins on the stabilizers necessary with the added mass of the floats ahead of the CG
Unusual to this model of 150 hp Champion is the outside baggage door on the right side of the fuselage seen here in the open position and ready for access to the baggage compartment
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because we removed the beacon It takes alshymost as long to patch the hole correctly as it does to replace the enshytire panel and then you dont have that ugly patch up there
The same thing held true for the cowlshying which they say is a weak point in a Coshymanche Building a new one consumed an enormous amount of time
Comanche control surfaces are reshyally thin mostly 016 and 020 so it doesnt take much to bend them up This airplane had apparently seen some hail that was heavy enough to dent the control surfaces but not the rest of the airplane so Greg said we re-skinned most of the control surfaces
Early in the project when the pair realized the airplane was going to take more than simply stripping and painting they decided on a specific goal We wanted to make it a truly modern airplane almost a new one so we could depend on it So we did everything but de-mate the wing We removed every single wire and sysshytem in the entire airplane and rebuilt every part of it according to Ronnie
When it came to the avionics Greg said it was really grungy It had Mark 12 radios in it and by the time we were done removing layers and layers of old wiring we took about SO pounds of wires out
Part of making it a modern airshyplane meant building reliability into everything ahead of the firewall We put a 260-hp exhaust system on it along with a lightweight starter new mags and most important we put a new fuel pump on it and had it flowshychecked Weve had some really tragic accidents in the Comanche community because the fuel pump was working but it wasnt putting out enough to feed the engine at takeoff power
According to the pair the landing
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gear is another area that needs careful examination because it wears out quickly We pulled every bushing and part of the gear and found that much of it was really sloppy This makes it hard to rig and contributes to gear collapses We dont know the history to our airplanes accident but that could have played a part
Naturally everything in the inteshyrior was replaced including a new panel with modern everything and they installed shoulder harnesses at the same time To keep their passenshygers happy they installed a small TV set with a VCR in the back seat They also installed a 14-inch thick big windshield and routed the edges down so it would fit flush into the original mounting channels
It took five years to get the airshyplane ready to fly and then it took another three months to get the pashyperwork completed We filed eight 337s and one field approval Because I do so many similar things with the corporate aircraft I just approached this one the same way Greg Davis said I filed them all through a DER (deSignated engineering representashytive) but rather than doing them locally I invited the FAA to come up and take a look at the airplane
They are obviously proud of the FAAs reaction to the way they apshyproached their project II After they came up the first time they brought another group of guys up to take a look at it They told us they wanted everyone in their office to see this beshy
cause this is the way they like to see an airshyplane and the supshyporting paperwork done Seems like theres a lesson for the rest of us in there somewhere
Ronnie Cox said The Comanche is a great airplane but like all airplanes if it needs extensive work it can be really expensive if you dont do it yourshyself Theres an old
saying about Piper products Made by farmers for farmers and its true The airplane is really easy to work on but the best thing you can do is make sure you get a good airplane in the first place
Cox has a number of pOints that he said every wannabe Comanche owner should satisfy before he or she buys a particular airplane Besides the normal over-all condition stuff that affects every airplane there are some specifics which include
bull AD list and compliance-Undershystand what airworthiness directives affect the airplane and make sure they were actually done
bull Gear condition-Look for cracked knuckles and measure as many internal dimensions as posshysible
bull Gear-up damage-Gear-up landshyings often crush the structure that the gear motor is attached to Make sure it was repaired properly
bull Flap track condition-The flap tracks wear and need to be carefully checked
bull Flap motor-The flap actuation system and especially the motor have to be checked for condition
The CoxDavis Comanche has more than 200 hours on it now and its owners (or should they be called creators) say it does exactly what they wanted it to do It lets them go long distances in comfort and they have the peace of mind that comes from knowing everything within that airplane was done right
CHAMPION 7ED7FC Ownerpilot Mike Foote (VAA 365457) wrote to us concerning his terrific restoration IIManufactured by Champion Aircraft in 1959 N8539E began life as a Tri-Champ In 1983 it was convelted to a taidragshy
gerl but only 12 short flight hours later life changed dramatically for N8539E when it was severely damaged in a windstorm The ownerls initial impression was that it would never fly again The remains went through several owners each intent upon restorationl but finding the task a daunting onel each chose instead to pass it along to someone else with more ambition My tum came in July of1995 After 15 months ofintense restoration efforts N8539E became a plane again on October 261 1996 1 flew the plane from my home base in Olathel Kansas to Oshkosh in 1997 and had it judged in the Contemporary category My efforts were rewardedl as the Champion was selected as the Outstanding Champion aircraft for that year It is still going strong and is just as satisfying to fly today as it was for the first time II
TAYLORCRAFf DC-65
Chet Peek (VAA 13458) author of terrific books such as The First Cub and Resurrection ofa Jenny has gotshyten back into flying after losing his airplanes and Norman Oklahoma hangar during a tornado in 1998 Chefs bought Bruce Bixlers Taylorshycraft DC-65 This DC-65 is one of the rare early Taylorcraft Tandems which had aluminum spars and ribs A few in the same series became the first Taylorcraft L-2 liaison airplanes Chefs airplane is finished in the Civilian Training Programs colors of blue and yellow
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September Mystery Plane
by HG Frautschy
This months Mystery Plane is a rare metal plane from the collection of Pete Bowers
Send your answer to EAA Vinshytage Airp lane PO Box 3086 Oshkosh WI 54903-3086 Your anshyswer needs to be in no later than October 15 for inclusion in the Deshycember issue of Vintage Airplane
You can also send your response via e-m ail Send your answer to vintageeaaorg
Be sure to include both your name and address (especially your city and state) in the body of your not e and put (Month) Mystery Plane in the subject line
Plenty of you knew the June Mysshytery Plane surely one of those Don t you wish there was just one of th ese left kind of airplanes Heres our first letter
The Mystery Plane in the June 2001 edition of Vintage Airplane is an Ireshyland N-2 Neptune
Ireland N-2 Nep
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G Sumner Ireland had been an engineer for Curtiss up to 1926 He later formed Ireland Aircraft Inc at Curshytiss Field Garden City and marketed th e Ireland Comet Meteor Privateer and Neptune Th e N-2B Neptune (circa 1927) was a four-pla ce amphibian powshyered by a 300-hp Wright J-6 while the N-2C Nepshytun e was a fiv e-place amphibian with a 450-hp PampWWasp
Thomas H Lymburn Princeton Minnesota
And more on the various models of the Neptune
The June Mystery Plane is the Amshyphibians Incorporated Model N-2B or N-2C with either PampW Wa sp engine or the Wright Whirlwind 300 in the five- or six-place amphibian Modificashytions from the Ireland A ircraft Inc Model ND5-ND6 include strut covers and increased bow angle on the tip floats and an extended main hull float behind the step The three views are from the Aircraft Yearbook 3- View
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Drawings 1903-1946 Russ Brown Lyndhurst Ohio
With Juptn ers U S Civil A ircraft this one didn t take long to idenshytify Vol 2 p ages 151-153 for ATC 153 des cribes th e Ireland Neptun e N-2B With enough clarity in th e photo to note the license as NC-88K its listed as L ____v
production number 43
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and had a 300-hp Wright J-6 engine (affirmed by the long rocker-box eavshyers) (Abo ut this time some models were being upgraded with a 450 PampW Wasp for the model N-2C-ATC 248)
Ive always been very appreciative of Joe Juptners good coverage of all the ATCd US aircraft Over the years Ive been building scale models of more obshyscure aircraft as a hobby Ive drawn many of my plans from photos and dishymensions in US Civil Aircraft In fact I have a plan I drew for the Nepshytune N-2C though Ive not built it yet Thats why I recognized the June Mysshytery plane was a Neptune I lived in Ecuador for about 45 years and made most of the models of jungle hardshywoods in 1 32 scale
Bub Borman Dallas Texas
Junes Mystery Plane was easy It is Irelands Neptune NC-89K shown on page 143 of us Civil Aircraft Vol 3
by Juptner Both pictures were probably taken the same day Note the man at left in both pictures same suit hat and tie Note the taped wire or tube on left wing forward strut
Excuse this old typewriter Im 81 and darned ifIll get a new one now
Good magazine good association good people Thanks
Albert B Aplin Chuluota Florida
Ju st a note to say I think the Jun e Mystery Plane is one of the Ireland Airshycraft Inc Neptune series
G Sumner Irelands ideas on flying boats pre-date this N-2C version by several years so the name was not new to aviation
Th e N-2C for the June issue was one of about nine built in late 1929 and the early 1930s
It was powered by a 450-hp Pratt amp Whitn ey Wasp and had a chromoly frame around which were bulkheads of duralumin to which were fastened
formers and then the outer aluminum skin
Hope this entry will serve to put me in the winners circle But then you always are when you join the V AA
John Kennelley Norwalk Iowa
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Weve gotten plenty of comshyments about the article concerning bulging fabric While it wasnt part of my column originally many of you have addressed your comments to me so Ill check in on the freshyquency
Before we get to that Id like to update you on the status of our Champ airworthiness directive compliance It went fine as you may recall reading in my July colshyumn but a funny thing happened after flying a bit in the rain-the paint we sprayed over the patches has started to come off Dang Usshying MEK I thought Id completely removed the lemon-scented furnishyture polish I use regularly to clean the leading edges but I guess I was wrong The paint on the leading edges is beginning to peel HG and I wonder if they put any silishycone in the polish Doesnt say so on the can but maybe its a secret ingredient The peeling paint makes the new name (see photo on page 26) for the Champ even more accurate
Lets get on with the loose fabric discussion
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First loose fabric is a hazard for a couple of reasons Loose fabric can chafe against fairing strips and fasshyteners weakening it If a fabric edge is caught in the slipstream it can easily be torn away The results can be disastrous If it gets tangled up with a control surface it can even cause a loss of control and at the very least the loose wildly flapping fabric can be a huge distraction Heres what some others had to say I cant say I agree with everyones comments but it certainly is intershyesting to see how fabrics are being applied in shops around the world Heres our first note
You must have received a lot of comments about the Stinsons bulging fabric Ill give you my 2~ worth
Ive re-covered at least four during the past 45 years and dozens of reshycovering jobs on many types of aircraft Ive used cotton Irish linen Ceconite Razorback and Stits Im sticking with Ceconite 101 which [ like best I like the smell of dope beshysides all the other good features
When I tighten Ceconite I set my iron at 400degF to 450degF ] do the initial
tightening with a heat gun Then] work it with the iron evenly until] can feel the right tautness Thats just the right drumming sound and feel After the first coat ofprimer nishytrate dope there may be a few slack areas I then go over them again but never holding the iron in one place very long
Every Stinson I re-covered had screws on the four stringers on top of the fuselage from the windshield back about 3 or 4 feet spaced 3 or 4 inches apart ] just looked at three Stinsons on our flight line and they all have the screws
Don Macor Duluth Minnesota
Dons method might work well for him but Id hesitate to suggest it to anyone else In particular the use of a heat gun is prohibited in the Poly-Fiber and other process manuals that deal with the installashytion of Dacron fabric Uneven heat application is the reason it is disshycouraged Id also point out that the Cooper Superflight manual among others highlights the fact that Dacron fabric will start to m~lt
when heated above 450degF Thats why Don says he does not linger too long when shrinking the fabric with an iron set above 400degF
I just received my July issue of Vinshytage Airplane I always look forward to its arriva l That cover photo of the Stearman is beautiful Hats off to Jim Koepnick who does such a great job ofphotographing these old planes
I was drawn to the article on page 4 Is that Covering too Slack I have an uncovered Stinson 108-3 sitting in my garage so perhaps I can shed some light on some of the details about covshyering the Stinson 108 series In the article someone said Id be tempted to rib-stitch the fabric to the upper stringers on the fuselage Id suggest avoiding that temptation The Stinson used 4 PK screws to attach the fabric to the ribs and to the stringers above the fuselage I know because I have a coffee can with hundreds of these screws that I removed from my plane Above the fuselage there are four hatshysection aluminum stringers On my Stinson the fabric was attached to each of these stringers with 10 PK screws at 3-inch intervals beginning aft of the leading edge and running back just aft of the rear spar I believe thats how it was done originally I would not suggest rib-stitching beshycause the sharp edges of the hat-section stringers would cut the lacing And of course there is the matter of legality Rib-stitching would be a modification from the original construction certainly not appropriate in this situation
The photo on page 5 shows apparshyent ballooning of the fabric over the cabin area of the fuselage but theres more to this than meets the eye At the Stinson factory a blanket of fibershyglass insulation was installed above the cabin Old photos show this insushylation installed above the stringers I believe the fabric was then attached through the insulation to the stringers with the PK screws That puffy look above the cabin may be caused (at least in part) by the insulation Ive
We had a couple of folks ask if we could show a comparison shot highlighting loose fabric with the Stinson as an example In 1999 EAAs crack photo staff took air-to-air photos of a couple of Stinsons The top photo shows the fabric ballooning above the cabin In the lower photo the airplane restored by noted Stinson 108 rebuilder Butch Walsh of Arrington Virginia clearly shows the 4 PK (Parker-Kalon) screws that secure the fabric to the cabin roof stringers before the finishing tapes are applied
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discussion Im sure there are others out there who know more about this than I do Id enjoy hearing from anyshyone interes ted in Stinsons I have a website that I call Hangar 9 Aeroworks It features my project and other information on the 108-series Stinsons The URL is wwwhangar9 aeroworkscom
John Baker Damascus Maryland
Dip and HG were the first to agree with the members who wrote and called in to take them to ta sk for not confirming the exact method of attachment used by Stinson The intent of the original write-up was not to compos e a Stinson maintenance manual but to highlight the hazards inherent in any fabric job that is not propshyerly installed Our comments were meant to elicit a response from the membership in cluding expe rts like Butch Walsh Boy did they ever respond
Each of us is required to confirm the exact methods us ed by the manufacturer or subsequently apshyproved modifications and to scrupulously duplicate those methshyods The type certificate drawings and other information are often
seen Stinsons with the original type insulation that had the puffy look while sitting quietly on the ground
Dip Davis is correct that the Stinshyson did not originally cover the tanks on the 108s though Ive seen many restorations with the tanks covered There can be a bit of a problem with fabric tapes not adhering well to the perimeter of the tanks In fact I had a few tapes come loose once on a trip to EAA Chapter 643 s fl y-in at Pittstown New Jersey in 1993 A litshytle contact cem ent and some help from Chapter 643 got me back home okay Shortly after that I decided it was time for a complete re-cover job
Here s one more item about balshylooning fabric on the Stinson 108s that I learned from Stinson guru Butch Walsh The cabin fresh air intakes are on the leading edge of th e wing (as shown on page 17 of th e March issue of Vintage Airplane) Th ese vents feed into a chamber inside the inboard rib bay This chamber is not sealed very well so forced air spills out into the wing as well as into the cabin Taking care to seal this chamshyber can eliminate some problems with fabric on the inboard portion of th e wing and will provide more fresh air in the cabin
I hope this will contribute to the
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After we compiled with AD 2000shy25-02 the Champ looked a bit more shop-worn so we gave it a new name
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Dont blindly follow the lead of someone who may have restored the airplane in the past-they ma y have missed something that is required How many times have you seen a poorly placed inspection hole only to hear II But that was the way it was inshystalled on the airplane when I got it I Only the factory drawings and any supplemental type certifishy
cates (STC) or other approved modifications can change the aircrafts legal configushyration and the method of fabric installation is part of that configushyration
As both HG and I have pOinted out in the past the covering supshypliers have specific instructions on how their covering methods are to be installed Since covering with the Poly-Fiber Cooper Superflight Ai r-Tech or other processes were not included in the type certificate for the airplanes that we were dealshying with here an STC for their installation was obtained by the resp ective companies If their method is not followed you run the risk of having the covering job re jected by an IA (AampP with inshyspection authorization) mechanic andor the FAA for not conformshying to the STC If an STCd part is installed on an aircraft and the methods spelled out in the STC are not followed the aircraft is unshyairworthy Un-airworthy aircraft dont have very good resale values and besides you can t fly them And thats the point of all of this right Let s get out there do it right and fly safely
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EAA AIRVENTURE 2001 VAA AWARDS Gold Lindy Grand Champion-Antique 1940 Piper J-5A Cub Cruiser NC329S5 Carl Brasser Brentwood Tennessee
Grand Champion-Classic Grumman Mallard NC2950 Steve Hamilton Carson City Nevada
Grand Champion-Contemporary Beech 35-B33 Debonair NS622M James Lynch Lawton Oklahoma
Silver Lindy Vintage Reserve Grand Champion-Antique Boeing Stearman E75 N713WW Scott White Orient Ohio
Vintage Reserve Grand Champion-Classic Aeronca 11AC Chief N9526E Paul Gould Sardinia Ohio
Vintage Reserve Grand Champion- Contemporary Piper PA-22-10S Colt N5549Z Dennis Beecher Martinsburg Pennsylvania
Bronze Lindy Antique
Champion-World War II Military Trainer or Liaison Aircraft Stearman N2S-3 N131 5N Douglas Devries Redlands California
Champion-Transport Category Boeing S307 Stratoliner NC19903-NASM Stratoliner Restoration Crew Federal Way Washington
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David Bates Faribault Minnesota
Champion-Replica Vickers Vimy FB27 NX71 MY Peter McMillan San Francisco California
Champion Golden Age (191S-1927) Ryan M-1 N2073 Andrew King Lovettsville Virginia
Champion-Silver Age (1928-1932) Fairchild FC-2W2 N13934 Greg Herrick Jackson Wyoming
Champion Bronze Age (1933-1941) Spartan Executive NC17667 Kent Blankenburg Groveland California
Champion World War II Era 1943-1945 Beech D17S Staggerwing N9597H E P Wiesner Castle Rock Colorado
Bronze Lindy Classic Best Class I (0-80 hp) Mooney Mite M1S N4149E Ben Workman Zanesville Ohio
Best Class II (81-150 hp) Cessna 140 NC2437V Michael Midtgaard Minneapolis Minnesota
Best Class III (151-235 hp) Ryan Navion N4012K Robert Kane Wilton California
Best Class IV 236 hp amp up Cessna 195 N2134C George Dray Novato California
Best Custom Class A Taylorcraft BC-12D N39911 Lee Bowden Independence Iowa
Best Custom Class B Cessna 140 N773SH Marty Lochman Newalla Oklahoma
Best Custom Class C Piper PA-1S-150 N75SSE Loren Kopseng Bismarck North Dakota
Best Custom Class 0 Cessna 195 N9S54A Martin Madden Somis California
Bronze Lindy Contemporary Beech H35 N547SD Larry VanDam Riverside California
TEXTRON FINANCIAL AVIATION FINANCE DIVISION JUDGING SPONSORS CHOICE Stinson SR-6A NC15127 Max amp Rene Davis Waconia Minnesota
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Runner-Up Customized Aircraft Boeing Stearman A75J1 N570SN Charles Luigs Bandera Texas
Silver Age (1928-1932) Outstanding Open Cockpit Biplane Great Lakes 2T-1A NS41H Cameron Saure Reynolds North Dakota
Outstanding Closed Cockpit Monoplane Monocoupe N543W Robert Coolbaugh Manassas Virginia
Runner-Up Closed Cockpit Monoplane Curtiss Robin N263E
Glenn Peck Maryland Heights Missouri
Bronze Age (1933-1941) Runner-Up Closed Cockpit Monoplane Spartan Executive NC17616 Ken amp Lorraine Morris Poplar Grove Illinois
Outstanding Closed Cockpit Biplane Waco ZOC-6 NC16203 Les Cashmere McAlester Oklahoma
Outstanding Open Cockpit Biplane DeHaviliand Tiger Moth DH82A N8879 Michael Williams Columbus Indiana
World War II Era (1942-1945) Runner-Up Closed Cockpit Biplane Beechcraft Staggerwing N1532M Bob Strunk Union Kentucky
Vintage Plaques Classic Best Aeronca Champ Aeronca Champ 7 AC N81585 Wayne Raye Stockbridge Georgia
Best Beechcraft Twin Beech D18S N213SP Alan Wright Naples Florida
Best Bellanca Bellanca 14-19 N6563N Charles Should is Rapid City South Dakota
Best Cessna 120140 Cessna 140 N89221 J Young Hudson Wisconsin
Best Cessna 170180 Cessna 170 N4034V John Nielsen Bloomer W isconsin
Best Cessna 190195 Cessna 195B N195SB Scott Boynton Campbell Hall New York
Best Ercoupe Ercoupe N2679
David Abrams Salem New Hampshire
Best Luscombe Luscombe 8A NC45504 James Zazas Carthage North Carolina
Best Navion Ryan Navion N4891 K Charles Stites Chapel Hill North Carolina
Best Piper J-3 Piper J-3 Cub NC88113 Willard Beatty Jr Holly Springs North Carolina
Best Piper Other Piper PA-18 N160CW Charles Wiplinger Inver Grove Height Minnesota
Best Stinson Stinson 108-3 N6355M Neil Logerwell Kent Washington
Best Swift Swift GC-1 B N3378K Jared Smith Huntington Beach California
Best Taylorcraft Taylorcraft BC12D N96841 Elmer Marting Monona Iowa
Best Limited Production DeHaviliand Beaver N34EB Paul Oakes Wasilla Alaska
Most Unique Emigh Trojan N8351 H Jerry Petro Williamsburg Virginia
Preservation Aeronca Chief NC4128E Edward Maxwell Louisville Kentucky
Vintage Plaques Contemporary Outstanding Beech Single Engine Bonanza N35 N1397Z Richard amp Dawn Barnett Waldron Arkansas
Outstanding Beech Multiengine Beech G18S N933GM Carla Payne Fort Worth Texas
Outstanding Cessna 150 Cessna 150 N7835E Robert Unternaehrer Brunswick Missouri
Outstanding Cessna 170172175 Cessna 172C N1499Y Randall Hockenberry Ft Wayne Indiana
Outstanding Cessna 180182-210 Cessna 182B N8407T Roger Schmidt Big Bear Lake California
Outstanding Piper PA-22 Tri Pacer PA-22 Tri-Pacer N9508D Tim Lewis amp John Brandon Jonesboro Arkansas
Outstanding Piper PA-24 Comanche PA-24 Comanche N45MB Kelly Wright Spokane Washington
Outstanding Mooney Mooney N6402U Raymond Miller Colorado Springs Colorado
Outstanding Limited Production Aircoupe F-1A N3044G Jack Arthur Des Moines Iowa
Outstanding Custom Class I Single Engine (0-160 hp) Piper PA-22-150 N6043D James Douglass Kennedyville Missouri
Outstanding Custom Class III Single Engine (231 hp amp higher) Piper PA-24 N8071 P Jim Simmons Nashville Tennessee
Outstanding Class IV Multi Engine Piper PA-23 N3187P Michael Luigs Bandera Texas
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VAANEWS compiled by HG Frautschy
COVERS FRONT COVER Ronnie Cox and Greg Davis of Fort Lauderdale Florida cruise above Floridas Gulf Coast waters with their 1962 250 Comanche EM photo by Jim Koepnick shot with a Canon EOS1 n equipped with an 80-200 mm lens on 100 ASA Fuji slide film EM Cessna 210 photo plane flown by Bruce Moore
BACK COVER Fay Gillis Summer 29 is the title of Frank Warrens acrylic painting awardshyed an Excellence ribbon in the 2001 EAA Sport Aviation Art competition It depicts a young Fay beside a Curtiss Fledgling at Garden City Long Island in August 1929 A month later she was forced to bailout of a Fledgling becoming the second female memshyber of the Caterpillar Club Fay was a charshyter member of the 99sFrank Warren can be reached at fljlwearthlinknet or by calling 805967-5473
SPORT PI LOT
ALMOST READY FOR NPRM
EAA President Tom Poberezny has written to FAA Administrator Jane Garvey and US Secretary of Transshyportation Norman Mineta asking for their personal intervention to expedite the return of the proposed sport pilot package back to the FAA one of the many steps in the process headed toshywards the publication of a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM)
Tom wrote Over the last eight years a tremendous volume of work-by both the government and the private sector-has gone into moving this complex regulatory package to its current status We reshyquest that you keep the same level of emphasis on completing the final steps to publication by facilitating every opportunity for expeditious handling by the Office of Manageshyment and Budget
Tom reiterated EAAs appreciation for DOTs and FAAs public comshymitment and acknowledgement of [sport pilots] positive impact reshy
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During EAA AirVenture Oshkosh the Vintage Aircraft Association and EAAs Government Services office hosted a meeting with the FAAs Mike Gallagher and Tom McSweeney (right) along with most of the type club representatives who attended the Convention Aging airshycraft issues were the primary topics of discussion In particular the thorny issues concerning the release of technical information by type certificate holders and especially the disposition of that same information related to long dormant type certificates was discussed As pointed out by Gallagher the FAA cannot legally release information unless the type certificate has been surrendered
Also discussed was the ongoing process of Airworthiness Concern Sheets (ACS) and the general consensus was that the program is working well to head off potential Airworthiness Directives Both Gallagher and McSweeney pointed out that only half of the ACS issued during 2001 had become Airworthiness Directives In previous years they all would have become ADs
An ACS issued on the spring steel main landing gear installed on older Cessnas was the subject of another meeting hosted by EAAs Government Programs specialist Randy Hansen and the Cessna Pilots Association President John Frank The meeting was intended to gather firsthand information about any difficulties being experienced with the gear by owneroperashytors It was their opinion that the difficulties highlighted by the FAAs sheet were the result of operations outside of what was considered normal and that the issue could be properly dealt with by adherence to a Cessna service bulletin EAA and the Cessna Pilots Association used input from that meeting to help formulate the response to the ACS
garding increased safety and imshyproved economy of recreational aviation (You can read Toms letters on the EAA sport pilot website at wwwsportpiotorg)
The proposed sport pilot rule has the potential to impact many vintage airshyplane owneroperators who may be able to operate their aircraft under a new set of rules For more detailed inshyfonnation you can read Sport Pilot For the Vintage Airman in the June issue of Vintage Airplane or you can read it online at wwwvintageaircra(torg
Volunteers make the world of EAA and VAA happen and one of this years enhancements to the vintage area was the installation of a new windsock frame and sock Behind the scenes in EAAs workshops a number of volunteers spend their summers helping us spruce up the place and Barb Lowell was kind enough to sew up the new bright red windsock featured in the August issue Barb and her husband John have been coming to EAA to volunteer for more than eight years They hail from Bulverde Texas After their arrival in May Barb and her fellow volunteers in the sewing room repair the flags and banners that decorate the EAA grounds and sewing replacement wind socks Later (n the summer they help decorate the EAA grounds by planting thousands of flowers on the convention grounds Our thanks to Barb and the many others who spend their summers helping us here at EAA and VAA
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Vintage Aircraft Markings Comments
Your article on markings is very good and needed I might add We run into these issues all the time Mostly with FAA inspectors oddly enough who dont run into anshytiques all that often I thought Id highlight a couple of points that may also be worthy of mention
Many owners confuse the use of the c or R or X on their airshyplanes with use on the registrations or other permanent records such as 337s The regulation refers to disshyplay on the aircraft but no other use And the FAA continues to use the common N number without the additional letter on all documents Sometimes a registration will pass with the extra letter but usually they will request that it be drafted without
Note paragraph 4522(b) the part that says may be operated without displaying marks in accordance with paragraphs 4521 and 4523 through 4533 if (then it goes on to detail the display of the C R X L etc) What this means is if the aircraft is experimental for instance the 2-inch high (or more) EXPERIshyMENTAL placard need not be displayed This is the one the inshyspectors always miss They go right for the cabin entry or passenger cockpit and look for the EXPERIshyMENTAL billboard Not having to put this on the airplane is a real plus for an owner with an aircraft that has the same external configurashy
tion as an aircraft built at least 30 years ago in other words a replica
Hope this is helpful Im probably preaching to the choir here as you always publish inSightful comment on the FARs
Roy Redman (VAA 777) Faribault Minnesota
I have just finished reading Vinshytage Aircraft Markings and would like to make this comment The FAA is not judging our airplanes I have judged EAA aircraft at our local flyshyins for more than a decade although not at Oshkosh All of the informashytion I have or have seen concerning judging stresses authenticity Over the years I have rebuilt several airshycraft that are now antiques It distresses me greatly to see a beautishyfully restored aircraft and then have the restorer take a shortcut and put on modern numbers This is not authentic as the aircraft did not come out of the factory this way If I inspect the airplane you can be sure that I will go over it minutely and nitpick I would suggest that in fushyture gUidelines to judges that authenticity be again stressed I wouldnt go so far as to require Grade A cotton although this of course is what was probably origishynally used
John Beebe (VAA 19313) White Stone Virginia
During the judging process all markshyings on the aircraft both the registration numbers and smaller placshyards and decals are judged on their authenticity The guidelines published for use by EAAVAA judges stress that concept Heres what the guidelines have to say
I FORWARD Throughout these standards
will be found the one concept that reshyflects the opinion of the majority of those individuals contacted during the development of these guidelines That concept is authenticity The standards are constructed to encourage the indishyvidual to complete and maintain a factory fresh aircraft If the individshyuals desire is to deviate from this goal for personal whim or other reasons the cost ofnot conforming to pure aushythenticity is known in advance A portion of the guidelines pertain[s] to the documentation of authenticity as it relates to the aircraft The exhibitor is encouraged to prove the authenticity with pictures letters factory specificashytions or any of the means which will alleviate the need for judges opinion in determining authenticity
For the complete text ofEAA s Judgshying Standards manual you can buy a copy by calling EAA Membership Sershyvices at 800843-3612 or you can view the pages on EAA s website at wwwairventureorg 200ljudging -HG Frautschy
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 5
AMIR Originally published in the September 1924 issue of The Wide World Magazine
BY JAM~S WHITTAH~R
ILLUSTRAT~D BY FE HIL~Y
On February 17th last at Ellington Field Houston Texas Gates Flying Circus
a well-known American company of stunt flyers was giving an exhibishytion for the benefit of the Thirty-sixth Division Air Service of the American Army One of the scheduled items was a daring parashychute descent by a y~)Ung chorus girl Rosalie Gordon It was not the first time she had essayed the feat having worked with the Gates Circus on the Pacific coast the previous year
Dressed in a white satin pilots uniform with little red buttons she ascended in a plane driven by Clyde Pangborn one of the Circus finest pilots Behind her in the rear cockpit sat Milton Girton who was to assist her in her preparations for the leap
It had rained in the morning the sky was full of low-lying clouds and at two thousand feet it was decided that she should make her leap The parachute was in a container tied to the landing gear of the plane with a short rope another rope connected the parachute with the girl who stepped coolly out onto the wing inshy
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spected the harness about her waist to see that it was properly adjusted and then jumped off into space
For a dozen feet or so she dropped headlong momentarily expecting the canopy of the parachute to open as usual and check her swift descent Instead she suddenly felt a terrific jerk and found that she was hanging suspended underneath the aeroshyplane trailing after it at the end of the ropes attached to the harness about her waist Her light weight was not enough to spring the trap of the parachute and a ring at the edge of the canvas canopy to which one of
the supporting ropes was attached had caught on a rod projecting from the landing gear From this fixture Miss Gordon now swung helplessly above the heads of the crowd
It was a fearful predicament Unshyable to crawl back or to free the parachute it seemed that certain death awaited the poor girl As long as the petrol lasted she was comparshyatively safe-unless she became detached and the parachute still failed to open-but once the plane was forced to land she would inshyeVitably be dragged to death beneath it Unless she could somehow be got
back onto the plane nothing could save her
Below the crowd of five thousand people looked on for a while uncomshyprehendingly To them it was at present all part of the show but the personnel of the Circus and the other practical aviators on the ground realshyized only too well the tragedy that was threatening Orders rang out sharp and decisive and half-a-dozen planes took to the air circling vainly about the swinging girl in an atshytempt to solve the problem The onlookers began to understand that something was seriously amiss Planes of the type used-this one was equipped with a 180 hp Hisso motor-land at express speed Thirty miles an hour is the minimum which meant that Rosalie would be dashed to pieces and her body manshygled beneath the tailskid directly as the machine came down As it was the anxious Pangborn having swooped earthwards to let those beshylow see her predicament the helpless girl hung perilously near the rough ground
Plane after plane with men lying out along the wing surfaces knife in hand hoping to cut her loose if posshysible swept past Pangborns machine risking imminent collision All of them however failed as did the frantic efforts of Girton himself who crawled out onto the landing gear and for half an hour battled desshyperately to pull the girl up to a perch on the axle and comparative safety But a previous hour of daredevil stunts had weakened him and he found his strength insufficient for the task
Then it was that Thompson one of the would-be rescuers swooped ground wards with his plane Someshything white fluttered from his machine as he rose again with a roar An official picked the object up-a piece of cardboard on which was the scribbled message Send Freddy up with a rope Will pick him up He can help pull her Up
It was cryptic enough to the uninishytiated but those who knew realized
INSTINCTIV~LY
PANGBORN AND
THOMPSON R~AD
WHAT WAS IN ON~
ANOTH~RS MINDS AND
SOON TH~ TWO
MACHIN~S W~R~
SAILING SID~-BY-SID[
WING ALMOST
TOUCHING WING
that one of the most daring feats ever attempted was to be put into operation to save the apparently doomed girl
Presently Thompson came to earth and into his plane climbed Freddy Lund a former member of the Circus but now in commercial life Up toward Pangborns machine with that helpless figure dangling beshyneath it Thompsons aeroplane shot until it was flying close below Lund climbing out on the upper wing reached frantically up in an effort to grasp Rosalies feet in the hope that their combined weight would release the catch of the parachute and let them both down to safety But the bumpy rise and fall of the planes made the maneuver impossible and it was speedily evident that another and even more desperate method would have to be tried if the girl was to be saved
Instinctively Pangborn and Thompson read what was in one anshyothers minds and soon the two machines were sailing side-by-side wing almost touching wing Then Lund swung himself down a stage lower and the crowd below gasped Hundreds of binoculars showed what was to be attempted and men and women sank on their knees and prayed openly that the fearless men aloft might be able to carry out their purpose
Just when it seemed that the two machines must become locked in a death grip which would send both of them hurtling to destruction Lund stretched out a hand grasped a strut on Pangborns plane and leapt across the gulf For an instant he swayed slid almost fell and then a great shout went up Hes done it Hes done it
It was a wonderful effort Usually this change from plane to plane pershyilous enough at the best of times is only attempted with nonskid strips on the wings and rubber shoes on the feet of the aviator Lund made it with slippery leather-soled boots on wings like shining glass
Only he knew how near he was to failure as a matter of fact his feet slid away beneath him but he clung to the strut with all his strength and so saved himself A white-faced man down below dropped his field glasses and gasped
Its a miracle he said solemnly But the rescue was far from being
accomplished yet Recovering himshyself Lund scrambled into the cockpit and then out of that and down onto the landing gear where Girton was still continuing his vain efforts to haul the girl up Together they heaved and strained at the rope but it was quickly seen from below that their combined efforts were inshysufficient and a groan broke from the crowd when Lund was seen laboshyriously climbing back into the cockpit
Theyve failed Theyve failed The cry went up
It certainly seemed so and matshyters looked grave for the anxious officials of the Circus knew that the sands of time were fast running out in another direction The petrol supshyply carried by the plane was limited Once it was exhausted and landing was imperative in which case nothshying could save the girl if she remained in her present position Many of the offiCials in fact were convinced that she was as good as dead already
Not so Pangborn and Lund how-
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After the ordeal Rosalie Gordon is seen in the centre with Lund who rescued her on the right The two other aviators are Pangborn and Thompson
came to earth in perfect fashion The onlookers released from the
restraint of their pent-up emotions at once surged wildly forward on to the ground but mounted attendants and armed police drove them back and an ambulance came dashing up with screeching horn
From underneath the plane crawled three disheveled but almost unhurt figures The two aviators had taken the slight shock of a perfect landing on their broad backs and they rose to their feet stiffly specks of blood on their faces and wrists from cuts caused by the rope from which Rosalie Gordon had been susshypended Daredevil flyers though they were both they and Pangborn showed the strain of the last halfshyhour All of them were white-faced and trembling
I was afraid the petrol would give out said Pangborn I kept circling over a little lake out there I thought that if we were forced to land it would be better than the ground
He walked over and measured the spirit in his tank and his face was eloquent He had just three minutes supply left
At first the little actress laughed hysterically but when a friend Esshyther Gray rushed up to her and embraced her she broke down and cried
So ended one of the biggest thrills and one of the finest exhibitions of heroism in the history of aviation Few flying men possess sufficient skill to carry out the work of the resshycue accomplished by Pangborn Lund and Girton-fewer still pershyhaps would have had the courage to attempt it
Seven years later Clyde Pangborn would be world famous for being the pilot on the first nonstop crossshying of the Pacific but in 1924 his cool head helped save a young lady parachutist from certain death
ever A few shouted words between them and then Lund took over the controls while Pangborn descended the frail under-rigging supports and joined the indefatigable Girton on the landing gear
Pangborn was slight of build but marvelously strong an open-air life and constant exercise had given him sinews of steel Crooking one leg over the axle and hanging on with one hand he slipped the other foot down and got a toehold under the girls belt Immediately she clasped him round the leg and with Girton carrying out a similar maneuver she was slowly raised until both men could reach her with their free hands A mighty heave and they hauled her into comparative safety on the axle-a wooden crosspiece three inches wide between the landshying wheels One says comparative safety advisedly There was little more than three feet of clearance beshytween the axle and the base of the plane and it was still a tossup whether through the give of the springs in landing anyone on the axle would not be crushed It was a risk that had to be taken however
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for nothing more could be done Once more Pangborn changed
places with Lund while Miss Gorshydon clung to the axle in a half-fainting condition Considering the fearful mental strain she had unshydergone her demeanor had been admirable she had followed the mens attempts to rescue her coolly and intelligently and had done everything she could to help them It was no wonder that the reaction was now making itself felt
Unfamiliar as he was with the controls of the plane Lund preferred the more dangerous job of holding Miss Gordon on the landing gear to the task of attempting to land So (swarming down) he took his placed beside her while the pilot dropped earthward in slow wide circles
The management fearing an accishydent when the landing was made sent a motorcar out onto the field in case the three people clinging to the gear might prefer to try and drop into it as it ran along under the plane Pangborn however perhaps wisely preferred the risks of a regushylar landing and in a final long swoop he swept over the grass and
MOST AVIATORS VIVIDLY REMEMBER
THEIR FIRST AIRPLANE RIDE AND CHERISH
THAT FOND MEMORY
AND THOSE OF US WHO HAVE BEEN
FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO OWN OUR OWN
AIRPLANE REMEMBER THAT IN VIVID
DETAIL AS WELL By Ev CASSAGNERES
We remember how we found it and the details of that first step in our aviation
life Perhaps that purchase was made under unique circumstances not simply by writing a check You may find the story of my first airplane similar to yours you may find it just plain interesting or you may be startshying that search
This story begins shortly after Aushygust 141945 V] Day the end of World War II On September 27 that same year I applied for and was hired as a line boy for Reynolds Flying Service at the New Haven Municipal Airport near New Haven Connecticut
I was in high school (Hillhouse High) at that time and would ride my
bull Irs
bicycle to school every day rain snow or shine Then to get to work after school I rode it to the airport I did all the dirty work sweeping out the hangar and shop gassing and oilshying airplanes and washing and hand-propping airplanes when necesshysary Some were as big as Pratt amp Whitney R-985s I also helped out in the shop with repairs rib stitching and doping
Later that month I was on a bus ridshying from New Haven to my home in Westville a suburb of New Haven As we headed out Edgewood Avenue I happened to look out the window on the right side and nearly went nuts with excitement at what I saw It was in the yard of the Acme Auto Top Company
As soon as I got home I jumped onto my bicycle and rode back to see that airplane at Acme When [ met the owner Steve he said he wanted to sell it for $80 He showed me the wings tail surfaces and prop which were inshyside the building
The airplane was a 1929 Comshymand-Aire 3C-3T serial number 614 registration number NC901E It had a Curtiss OX-5 engine serial number 2116
The wings had silver fabric the
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fuselage was red and the tail surshyfaces were silver I was absolutely thrilled to just touch it I was only 17 years old and wondered how in the world I would ever come up with $80 for the airplane It was beautiful even though it most likely needed a complete rebuild to airshyworthy condition As partial payment for my work as a line boy I had been taking dual instruction in a Piper J-3C65 I wondered if I could even fly this airplane
At about this time I was also getshyting into serious bicycle racing through my friend Phil Kittredge who was already the Connecticut State Junior Champion He was not a pilot but agreed to be a partner in this endeavor Between us we came up with $15 as a down payment which we gave to Steve with a promise to get the rest as soon as we could
I went to work setting pins in loshycal bowling alleys and did some caddying at Yale Golf Course near where I lived both good jobs for a teenager at that time Phil and I
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These two shots are from the collection of Shelby Hagberg and are of the very ship forshymerly owned by then 17-yearshyold Ev Cassagneres Its a 1929 Command-Aire 3C-3T NC901 E serial number 614 Taken at Curtiss Field on Long Island New York The airplane was painted with silver wings and horizontal tail surface and a red fuselage and rudder
could not seem to raise enough cash to satisfy the airplane owner so we lost out on the deal and he kept the 15 bucks Of course we were devastated
In the meantime a local affluent gentleman who also collected anshytique automobiles managed to purchase the Command-Aire He had it moved out in the country in the town of Bethany It sat there out in a field with the wings laid out in the grass of an open field deterioratshying in the elements Occasionally I would cycle out there to look at it touch it and dream or fantasize
On January 21 1946 the new owner who knew who I was and that I was interested in the airplane called me and asked if I was still inshyterested He said he would sell it on a trade basis Needless to say I would come up with something
I happened to have a French-built Automoto bicycle that I was quite fond of but would be willing to part with It was worth about $80 so we did an even swap Now I had to find a place to put it and figure out a way
to get it home about 5 miles My friend Phil came to the rescue
again You see my own parents never did own a car or have drivers licenses Phil had the use of his fashythers 1937 Plymouth four-door car So we tied the tailskid in the trunk with clothesline rope and put the wings on the roof secured with ropes tied all over the place
We started out to drive the 5 miles to my house in Westville Well two young sporty guys couldshynt just go straight there and that would be that could they We realshyized that the local high school was due out at 230 in the afternoon So we just happened to detour with all of this interesting cargo over some hills to the school and we got there just as the students were getshyting out Many we knew and of course we directed our attention mainly to the girls So whats the story they would ask and that was all we needed We ahem had just flown down from some exotic place in northern Canada and planned on rebuilding the airplane for some other exotic adventure It was amazshying how convincing we could be and how gullible they were We did all of this while wearing an old pair of gogshygles and a helmet and with mischievous faces they still believed us so we let it go at that We laughed all the way home
The airplane sat in my backyard the rest of the winter as I worked on it although I really did not know what I was doing I did get the enshygine running a couple of times The sound and smell was exciting like a concert orchestra to me My parents gave me a lot of encouragement and enjoyed my project
However my enthusiasm and fanshytasy of flight were not to last very long We lived on the third floor of a three-family house and the landlord was not at all happy over this kid having an airplane in the backyard of our neighborhood So it had to go What to do We did not own a car so no garage was available and I could not find any other suitable
This shot taken at Curtiss Field as well clearly shows the split-axle landing gear and Fokker Dvll-styled wing center section as designed by famed aero engineer Albert Voellmecke
place for it So the bottom line was simple-I had to sell it And I never even took a picture of it nor did any of the neighbors
A schoolmate of mine by the name of Billy Gilbert also a stushydent pilot showed some interest and he lived in the town of Bethany That town had a grass runway airport and it was one of the oldest airports in New Engshyland where supposedly American Airlines got started Famous aviashytors had flown out of there names such as Bert Acosta Clarence Chamberlin Guss Graff Jack Tweed Franklin T Hank Kurt Bob Noorduyn (Norseman) and Batch Pond (Pond Creams) (The Bethany airport managed to stay in existence until the early 1980s)
On May 291946 Billy Gilbert came to the house with a farm rack truck and $30 loaded up the airshyplane and drove away That was the last time I saw it as r stood there and cried However I had hidden the propeller in our basement and still
have it as a memento in addition to a section of wing fabric with the black number NC901E on it
So what became of that old airshyplane Billy wen t into the Navy and his parents eventually sold the ship to a local junk and scrap dealer who was mainly interested in the OX engine That was the end of it I searched many years later but it was gone
Years later I came across many Command-Aire photographs and the ones shown with this article are all I have of that fond memory
Sometime after that I owned a 1941 Waco UPF-7 which I made my first dollar with by towing signs allover the place out of the Bethany airport and then a 1936 Ryan ST and now I have a 1953 Cessna 170B which I fly often (my first closed-in type)
Sometimes for old times sake r will fly the 170 with helmet and goggles and white scarf and the winshydows open See one never loses the thrill of real flight
In closing I can say that if one wants to fly bad enough one will find a way It is a healthy disease that can be most appreciated as you feel the wind in your face up in the air over our beautiful countryside
What else do I do now for fun My new book The Untold Story of The Spirit Of St Louis will be out next year 2002 the 75th annivershysary of Lindberghs epic flight This book has been a labor of love for decades and it will be published by Historic Aviation Books
When that is done I plan to write the history of Command-Aire and also some Connecticut aviation hisshytory In particular Im going to document the stories of the Cairns airplane the Kimball Beetle sevenshycylinder aircraft radial engine the Scorpion aircraft engine the Bristol gliders that were manufactured on Edgewood Avenue near the Acme Auto Top Company (see story) and the Bourdon- and Viking-built Kitty Hawk airplanes
After that I may retire
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 11
TYPE CLUB
Some Thoughts on Restoration and Airworthiness Originally appeared in Waco World News Vol I No 36 MaylJune 2001
by Robert G Lock
Restoring an airplane is a lot like flying-hours and hours of someshytimes boring work separated by a few moments of stark terror As one approaches the end of a restoration project there comes a time for certishyfication by the FAA unless the airplane has a permanent airworthishyness certificate Receiving that all-important permanent standard airworthiness certificate is the final objective This article will give some background on past certification procedures especially for airplanes that go back to the beginning of government rules and regulations
Governments entry into aviashytion essentially began with the creation of the Aeronautics Branch of the Department of Commerce Near the top of the agenda of the new bureaucracy was the certificatshying of airplanes pilots and eventually mechanics Approved type certificates (ATC) began in March 1927 and continue to this day Registration numbers were reshyquired and were painted on the wings and tail The Roman capital letter N denoting registration in the United States followed by the letter C for commercial X for
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experimental R for restricted and L for limited were adopted Design requirements needed for an ATC were contained in Aeronautics Bulletin 7 later 7A ATCs were numshybered sequentia lly beginning with 1 and ending with 817 (a new ATC numbering system was introduced after number 817) The certificating of pilots and later mechanics closely followed as the government tried to regulate the beginning of the aviation industry
Obtaining an ATC to manufacshyture and sell an airplane was costly even in the early days Group 2 apshyprovals were awarded to a person or company when only a limited numshyber of aircraft were to be built either as a new design or as a modification of an existing airplane being manushyfactured under an ATe The Group 2 approvals were cheaper and easier to obtain but design and manufacshyture were equiva lent to approved type cert ificates
An important item to remember is that if an airplane was designed to Aeronautics Bulletin 7 or 7A it still must meet those requirements toshyday So for some restorers a copy of this manual is helpful
Another bit of information critishycal to certification is that there were no permanent airworthiness certifishycates in the old days A representative of the government re -certificated the airplane annushyally and a new airworthiness certificate was issued The papershywork f i le in Washington DC became immense There was a file folder for each registered aircraft and all hard copy paperwork was meticulously maintained Even telegrams were retained
Each file folder was a complete diary of the airplane from owners to inspections and repairs Some of this data is available today on mishycrofiche For most all aircraft the original hard copy files have been placed on microfiche and then the hard copy fi les were destroyed I have seen original files that are still stored in Suitland Maryland Most of those files are not on microfiche
ATC data is also known as type design data Type design data can be found in the Aircraft Listing Enshygine Listing and Prope ll er Listing (for fewer than SO airp lanes regisshytered) and in the Aircraft Engine and Propeller Specification Sheets
for the middle-aged aircraft For airplanes of this vintage this
is the only source of data for the reshystorer If youre really lucky there may be copies of original factory drawings available as a valuable supplement However most of the factory drawings for many antique aircraft have been destroyed Fortushynately for Waco restorers factory drawings are available Drawings are invaluable when restoring old airplanes I searched for the Comshymand-Aire drawings but determined that they had all been destroyed However in my search I did locate some valuable type deshysign data from a most unusual source which might be fuel for anshyother story
In the mid 1930s the aviation inshydustry continued to grow By an act of Congress the government creshyated the Civil Aeronautics Administration (CAA) The CAA took regulations created by the Aeronautics Branch of the Departshyment of Commerce and expanded its bureaucratic role in aviation It created Civil Aviation Regulations (CAR) and Civil Aviation Manuals (CAM) Requirements of approved type were now contained in the CARs CAR 3 was certification for small aircraft Also to appear was the mechanics bible CAM 18 which spelled out requirements for major repairs to aircraft This publishycation evolved into the present FAA Advisory Circulars AC4313-1B andshy2B which give data on major repairs and alterations
The annual re-certificating of airshycraft was still required and a new airworthiness certificate was given to the owner after the airplane was approved for return to service As the workload increased a new method of certificating was created DeSignated aircraft maintenance inshyspectors (DAM I) were selected to take over the re-certificating duties These were well-experienced airshy
craft and engine (AampE) mechanics that were hand selected by local CAA maintenance inspectors The airworthiness certificate was still isshysued every year but in the mid-1950s about the time that the Federal Aviation Agency (FAA) came to power things began to change for airworthiness certificates They became permanent The aircraft could be re-certificated every year by a DAMI and later by an FAA airshyframe and powerplant (AampP) mechanic who holds an inspection authorization (IA) So today the AampP with IA can return to service annual inspections many major reshypairs and some major alterations
Congress created the Federal Avishyation Agency in 1958 Soon after the word II Agency was dropped in favor of II Administration And government control and bureaushycracy continued to grow ever larger
While we are on the subject of the FAA perhaps an easy method to distinguish differences between mashyjor repairs and major alterations is to apply the following
If the repair returns the aircraft to its original type certificate afshyfects airworthiness and cannot be done using elementary techniques then it is a major repair
If the repair (or modification) alshyters conformity to the original type design data then it is a major alteration
If an AampP mechanic cannot apshyprove a major repair or major alteration then a field approval by an FAA maintenance inspector must be obtained Sometimes this is more complicated than can be imagined Maybe a future story on FAA field approvals would prove inshyteresting
If an aircraft has never had a pershymanent airworthiness certificate then one must be obtained Here again the FAA issues this certifishycate To obtain that treasured piece of paper you must fill out an applishy
cation and prove that the airplane conforms to its type certificate Sometimes this is very difficult Esshypecially if the original type design data is incomplete or missing I have seen file cabinets in FAA headshyquarters with drawers containing type design data Just like Joe Juptshyners US Civil Aircraft books each drawer had a folder with the ATC number on top Some of the folders contained data while some were empty When the folder was empty the FAA had no type design data other than data that was published in Aircraft Engine and Propeller Listing which is not very much
For the coveted permanent airshyworthiness certificate an FAA representative will conduct a conshyformity inspection The basis for the inspection could be one or more of the following FAA Airshycraft Engine and Propeller Listing or Specification Sheets microfiche of original aircraft records containshying airworthiness and registration data factory drawings (if available) and aircraft and engine operating limitations
In addition current weight and balance calculations with critical forward and aft loading (if reshyquired) a loading schedule (if required) and appropriate placardshying must be included A list of required optional and special equipment must accompany the weight and balance data And lastly FAA Form 337 (Major Repair amp Mashyjor Alteration) must be completed by the supervising AampPIA Aircraft and engine logbooks must have apshypropriate entries made and registration data must be shown After many months (or should I say years) of restoration work perhaps that small piece of paper that says PERMANENT AIRWORTHINESS CERTIFICATE-STANDARD is now in your hand Categories of the airshyworthiness certificate are NORMAL UTILITY and ACROBATIC
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 13
Mike Sleineke
Yeah well just strip it and paint it
Shouldnt take more than a month Thats what Ronnie Cox and Greg Davis of Ft Lauderdale Florida said about their 1962 250 Comanche
Sound familiar That kind of comshyment is right up there with Well just clean up a few of the instrushyments or Gee wouldnt it look better with a new windshield
Not once in the history of vinshytage con tern porary airplanes has anyone
1 Removed just one part painted it and put it right back on without removing a bunch more first
2 Started to do just one restoration operation eg re-bush the landing gear and done only that one thing
3 Taken an engine off overhauled it and put it back on without redoshying everything in sight
4 Reupholstered just the front seats and stopped there
You get the picture Airplanes are a lot like tar babies and once you get
your fingers into them they generally suck you in right up to your navel and don t let you go until theres nothing left to do
Ronnie and Greg were both lookshying for a serious cross-country airplane they could use to run from Florida up to Ronnies summer house in the Michigan islands Ronnie had owned three Comanches in the past so that was his bird of choice For Greg it would be his first airplane ownership
Ronnie had a long history of airshyplane ownership and involvement because his dad was heavily involved in aircraft and used to fly him all over the country Plus he owned a long string of airplanes including a PT-19 and a bunch of Pipers including Tri-Pacers Pacers and such
Ronnie started flying while he was still based in Ohio in the 1960s
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The 2S0-hp six-cylinder Lycoming gives the Comanche Bonanza-rivaling speed (a cruise of 161 to 181 mph) and a useful load carrying capacity of up to 1200 pounds
Updated radios and a refurbished interior make the Comanche a comfortable cross-country speedster
and his wife and son learned to fly from the same CFI who taught both his father and him to fly
Cox an elecshytrical engineer by training had started his own enshygineering business years ago and even worked a Seneca II into it for corposhyrate transportation so by the time the 1962 Comanche entered thei r lives he had 5500 hours of flying time He recently sought a change in career and sold his business to fly for a comshymuter airline
Ronnie also had a business buildshying engines for drag racers that Greg said really helped because Ronshynie just has a feel for what has to be done to a machine mechanically to make it right
Cox enjoyed rebuilding airplanes almost from the beginning and his total restoration of a Cessna 140 won a Lindy Award as recognition that he was a hands-on kind of guy who farmed out as little of his airplane reshybuilding projects as possible However it was in looking for a little help while his son and he were reshybuilding his sons Cessna 120 (which also won a Lindy) that he met Greg Davis
We needed to have some alushyminum bent to make up a new spar doubler for the 120 Ronnie said and someone suggested we contact
this guy on the other side of the field Ronnie
laughed when he said this inshydicating something was coming We walked in with the original
doubler in our hand which was a litshytle crude and showed it to Greg This
was the first time Id laid eyes on him Ronnie said
He looked at the doubler threw it down and said No I cant make something like this I thought he was joking or something Then he said If I make it itll be better than that Greg can be a little cantankerous and Ronnie Cox laughed again
Greg Davis has run Davis Aircraft Services in Ft Lauderdale since 1985 and he specializes in doing structural repairs on corporate airplanes As such he has developed both the facilshyity and ability to do practically anything with sheet metal So beshytween Ronnies mechanical ability and Gregs feeling for sheet metal there was practically nothing they couldnt do to a little airplane
I had been part of an RV-4 buildshying project but got out of it because I was just too busy flying a friends Pitts S-2B Greg explained He said I could fly it as much as I wanted so I started competing and between that and work I didnt really have the time to own my own airplane
There was something about the chemistry between the two men that prompted them to want a cross-counshy
try airplane that could carry two guys 120 gallons of gas and our bagshygage Enter the Comanche
They ran into the airplane in Aushygust 1992 and it was a really sad example of the breed but the price was right and the sheet metal looked good Also it had no corrosion
Then they started comparing the logbooks to the actual airplane and found that someone had a fanciful imagination when it came to the defishynition of airworthiness directive (AD) compliance The Comanche has a bunch of fairly serious and expenshysive ADs Ronnie pointed out Over the years someone had been signing off the ADs but not doing them As they put it the airplane had about 25 years of pencil maintenance
We found a perfect example of how well this airplane was mainshytained when we replaced the tires One of the tubes was dated 1962 and had been on the airplane since it was built Greg said
The airplane had also been landed gear-up at some point in its career Again the previous keepers of the logs didnt see fit to mention this litshytle incident There were a bunch of scab patches on the belly we had to get rid of and we put new gear doors on it
Their approach to the sheet metal was simple If a panel needed a repair they would just replace the panel We re-skinned part of the turtledeck
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 17
WHAT OUR MEMBERS ARE RESTORING by HG Frautschy and Norm Petersen
AERONCA 7DC Sitting on the grass at Lee Bottom Airport near Louisville Kentucky Mark
and Wendie Paszkiewiczs (VAA 580997) 1946 Aeronca 7DC is ready for a flight in the warm hazy skies along the Ohio River First delivered as a 7 AC to a Phoenix Arizona flight school in 1946 with the installation of a Conshytinental 85-hp engine it became an Aeronca 7De Partially restored when they bought the project Mark and Wendie couldnt resist rebuilding some parts Now they fly the Champ around to local fly-ins and just have fun in it after work
CHAMPION 7GCB Posed in the afternoon sunshine of Sky
Harbor Airport in Duluth Minnesota is a beautiful 1962 Champion 7GCB N9912Y serial number 7GCB-133 mounted on an immaculate set of PKshy1800 floats Recently re-covered and painted by veteran mechanic Don Macor (VAA 28788) of Duluth Minnesota this particular aircraft is quite rare in that it has only 706 hours total time on airframe and engine has a factory original outside baggage compartment door and is one of only six 7GCBs remaining on the US Register In addition during its entire 39shyyear lifespan only one authorized inspectors name is in the aircraft logshybooks-Don Macor Don reports the airframe was in very good shape with only minor surface rust on a few places The covering is Ceconite 101 with bushytyrate dope in Daytona white Miami blue and black trim Note the seaplane auxiliary fins on the stabilizers necessary with the added mass of the floats ahead of the CG
Unusual to this model of 150 hp Champion is the outside baggage door on the right side of the fuselage seen here in the open position and ready for access to the baggage compartment
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because we removed the beacon It takes alshymost as long to patch the hole correctly as it does to replace the enshytire panel and then you dont have that ugly patch up there
The same thing held true for the cowlshying which they say is a weak point in a Coshymanche Building a new one consumed an enormous amount of time
Comanche control surfaces are reshyally thin mostly 016 and 020 so it doesnt take much to bend them up This airplane had apparently seen some hail that was heavy enough to dent the control surfaces but not the rest of the airplane so Greg said we re-skinned most of the control surfaces
Early in the project when the pair realized the airplane was going to take more than simply stripping and painting they decided on a specific goal We wanted to make it a truly modern airplane almost a new one so we could depend on it So we did everything but de-mate the wing We removed every single wire and sysshytem in the entire airplane and rebuilt every part of it according to Ronnie
When it came to the avionics Greg said it was really grungy It had Mark 12 radios in it and by the time we were done removing layers and layers of old wiring we took about SO pounds of wires out
Part of making it a modern airshyplane meant building reliability into everything ahead of the firewall We put a 260-hp exhaust system on it along with a lightweight starter new mags and most important we put a new fuel pump on it and had it flowshychecked Weve had some really tragic accidents in the Comanche community because the fuel pump was working but it wasnt putting out enough to feed the engine at takeoff power
According to the pair the landing
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gear is another area that needs careful examination because it wears out quickly We pulled every bushing and part of the gear and found that much of it was really sloppy This makes it hard to rig and contributes to gear collapses We dont know the history to our airplanes accident but that could have played a part
Naturally everything in the inteshyrior was replaced including a new panel with modern everything and they installed shoulder harnesses at the same time To keep their passenshygers happy they installed a small TV set with a VCR in the back seat They also installed a 14-inch thick big windshield and routed the edges down so it would fit flush into the original mounting channels
It took five years to get the airshyplane ready to fly and then it took another three months to get the pashyperwork completed We filed eight 337s and one field approval Because I do so many similar things with the corporate aircraft I just approached this one the same way Greg Davis said I filed them all through a DER (deSignated engineering representashytive) but rather than doing them locally I invited the FAA to come up and take a look at the airplane
They are obviously proud of the FAAs reaction to the way they apshyproached their project II After they came up the first time they brought another group of guys up to take a look at it They told us they wanted everyone in their office to see this beshy
cause this is the way they like to see an airshyplane and the supshyporting paperwork done Seems like theres a lesson for the rest of us in there somewhere
Ronnie Cox said The Comanche is a great airplane but like all airplanes if it needs extensive work it can be really expensive if you dont do it yourshyself Theres an old
saying about Piper products Made by farmers for farmers and its true The airplane is really easy to work on but the best thing you can do is make sure you get a good airplane in the first place
Cox has a number of pOints that he said every wannabe Comanche owner should satisfy before he or she buys a particular airplane Besides the normal over-all condition stuff that affects every airplane there are some specifics which include
bull AD list and compliance-Undershystand what airworthiness directives affect the airplane and make sure they were actually done
bull Gear condition-Look for cracked knuckles and measure as many internal dimensions as posshysible
bull Gear-up damage-Gear-up landshyings often crush the structure that the gear motor is attached to Make sure it was repaired properly
bull Flap track condition-The flap tracks wear and need to be carefully checked
bull Flap motor-The flap actuation system and especially the motor have to be checked for condition
The CoxDavis Comanche has more than 200 hours on it now and its owners (or should they be called creators) say it does exactly what they wanted it to do It lets them go long distances in comfort and they have the peace of mind that comes from knowing everything within that airplane was done right
CHAMPION 7ED7FC Ownerpilot Mike Foote (VAA 365457) wrote to us concerning his terrific restoration IIManufactured by Champion Aircraft in 1959 N8539E began life as a Tri-Champ In 1983 it was convelted to a taidragshy
gerl but only 12 short flight hours later life changed dramatically for N8539E when it was severely damaged in a windstorm The ownerls initial impression was that it would never fly again The remains went through several owners each intent upon restorationl but finding the task a daunting onel each chose instead to pass it along to someone else with more ambition My tum came in July of1995 After 15 months ofintense restoration efforts N8539E became a plane again on October 261 1996 1 flew the plane from my home base in Olathel Kansas to Oshkosh in 1997 and had it judged in the Contemporary category My efforts were rewardedl as the Champion was selected as the Outstanding Champion aircraft for that year It is still going strong and is just as satisfying to fly today as it was for the first time II
TAYLORCRAFf DC-65
Chet Peek (VAA 13458) author of terrific books such as The First Cub and Resurrection ofa Jenny has gotshyten back into flying after losing his airplanes and Norman Oklahoma hangar during a tornado in 1998 Chefs bought Bruce Bixlers Taylorshycraft DC-65 This DC-65 is one of the rare early Taylorcraft Tandems which had aluminum spars and ribs A few in the same series became the first Taylorcraft L-2 liaison airplanes Chefs airplane is finished in the Civilian Training Programs colors of blue and yellow
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September Mystery Plane
by HG Frautschy
This months Mystery Plane is a rare metal plane from the collection of Pete Bowers
Send your answer to EAA Vinshytage Airp lane PO Box 3086 Oshkosh WI 54903-3086 Your anshyswer needs to be in no later than October 15 for inclusion in the Deshycember issue of Vintage Airplane
You can also send your response via e-m ail Send your answer to vintageeaaorg
Be sure to include both your name and address (especially your city and state) in the body of your not e and put (Month) Mystery Plane in the subject line
Plenty of you knew the June Mysshytery Plane surely one of those Don t you wish there was just one of th ese left kind of airplanes Heres our first letter
The Mystery Plane in the June 2001 edition of Vintage Airplane is an Ireshyland N-2 Neptune
Ireland N-2 Nep
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G Sumner Ireland had been an engineer for Curtiss up to 1926 He later formed Ireland Aircraft Inc at Curshytiss Field Garden City and marketed th e Ireland Comet Meteor Privateer and Neptune Th e N-2B Neptune (circa 1927) was a four-pla ce amphibian powshyered by a 300-hp Wright J-6 while the N-2C Nepshytun e was a fiv e-place amphibian with a 450-hp PampWWasp
Thomas H Lymburn Princeton Minnesota
And more on the various models of the Neptune
The June Mystery Plane is the Amshyphibians Incorporated Model N-2B or N-2C with either PampW Wa sp engine or the Wright Whirlwind 300 in the five- or six-place amphibian Modificashytions from the Ireland A ircraft Inc Model ND5-ND6 include strut covers and increased bow angle on the tip floats and an extended main hull float behind the step The three views are from the Aircraft Yearbook 3- View
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Drawings 1903-1946 Russ Brown Lyndhurst Ohio
With Juptn ers U S Civil A ircraft this one didn t take long to idenshytify Vol 2 p ages 151-153 for ATC 153 des cribes th e Ireland Neptun e N-2B With enough clarity in th e photo to note the license as NC-88K its listed as L ____v
production number 43
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and had a 300-hp Wright J-6 engine (affirmed by the long rocker-box eavshyers) (Abo ut this time some models were being upgraded with a 450 PampW Wasp for the model N-2C-ATC 248)
Ive always been very appreciative of Joe Juptners good coverage of all the ATCd US aircraft Over the years Ive been building scale models of more obshyscure aircraft as a hobby Ive drawn many of my plans from photos and dishymensions in US Civil Aircraft In fact I have a plan I drew for the Nepshytune N-2C though Ive not built it yet Thats why I recognized the June Mysshytery plane was a Neptune I lived in Ecuador for about 45 years and made most of the models of jungle hardshywoods in 1 32 scale
Bub Borman Dallas Texas
Junes Mystery Plane was easy It is Irelands Neptune NC-89K shown on page 143 of us Civil Aircraft Vol 3
by Juptner Both pictures were probably taken the same day Note the man at left in both pictures same suit hat and tie Note the taped wire or tube on left wing forward strut
Excuse this old typewriter Im 81 and darned ifIll get a new one now
Good magazine good association good people Thanks
Albert B Aplin Chuluota Florida
Ju st a note to say I think the Jun e Mystery Plane is one of the Ireland Airshycraft Inc Neptune series
G Sumner Irelands ideas on flying boats pre-date this N-2C version by several years so the name was not new to aviation
Th e N-2C for the June issue was one of about nine built in late 1929 and the early 1930s
It was powered by a 450-hp Pratt amp Whitn ey Wasp and had a chromoly frame around which were bulkheads of duralumin to which were fastened
formers and then the outer aluminum skin
Hope this entry will serve to put me in the winners circle But then you always are when you join the V AA
John Kennelley Norwalk Iowa
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Feedback on Loose Fabric
Weve gotten plenty of comshyments about the article concerning bulging fabric While it wasnt part of my column originally many of you have addressed your comments to me so Ill check in on the freshyquency
Before we get to that Id like to update you on the status of our Champ airworthiness directive compliance It went fine as you may recall reading in my July colshyumn but a funny thing happened after flying a bit in the rain-the paint we sprayed over the patches has started to come off Dang Usshying MEK I thought Id completely removed the lemon-scented furnishyture polish I use regularly to clean the leading edges but I guess I was wrong The paint on the leading edges is beginning to peel HG and I wonder if they put any silishycone in the polish Doesnt say so on the can but maybe its a secret ingredient The peeling paint makes the new name (see photo on page 26) for the Champ even more accurate
Lets get on with the loose fabric discussion
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First loose fabric is a hazard for a couple of reasons Loose fabric can chafe against fairing strips and fasshyteners weakening it If a fabric edge is caught in the slipstream it can easily be torn away The results can be disastrous If it gets tangled up with a control surface it can even cause a loss of control and at the very least the loose wildly flapping fabric can be a huge distraction Heres what some others had to say I cant say I agree with everyones comments but it certainly is intershyesting to see how fabrics are being applied in shops around the world Heres our first note
You must have received a lot of comments about the Stinsons bulging fabric Ill give you my 2~ worth
Ive re-covered at least four during the past 45 years and dozens of reshycovering jobs on many types of aircraft Ive used cotton Irish linen Ceconite Razorback and Stits Im sticking with Ceconite 101 which [ like best I like the smell of dope beshysides all the other good features
When I tighten Ceconite I set my iron at 400degF to 450degF ] do the initial
tightening with a heat gun Then] work it with the iron evenly until] can feel the right tautness Thats just the right drumming sound and feel After the first coat ofprimer nishytrate dope there may be a few slack areas I then go over them again but never holding the iron in one place very long
Every Stinson I re-covered had screws on the four stringers on top of the fuselage from the windshield back about 3 or 4 feet spaced 3 or 4 inches apart ] just looked at three Stinsons on our flight line and they all have the screws
Don Macor Duluth Minnesota
Dons method might work well for him but Id hesitate to suggest it to anyone else In particular the use of a heat gun is prohibited in the Poly-Fiber and other process manuals that deal with the installashytion of Dacron fabric Uneven heat application is the reason it is disshycouraged Id also point out that the Cooper Superflight manual among others highlights the fact that Dacron fabric will start to m~lt
when heated above 450degF Thats why Don says he does not linger too long when shrinking the fabric with an iron set above 400degF
I just received my July issue of Vinshytage Airplane I always look forward to its arriva l That cover photo of the Stearman is beautiful Hats off to Jim Koepnick who does such a great job ofphotographing these old planes
I was drawn to the article on page 4 Is that Covering too Slack I have an uncovered Stinson 108-3 sitting in my garage so perhaps I can shed some light on some of the details about covshyering the Stinson 108 series In the article someone said Id be tempted to rib-stitch the fabric to the upper stringers on the fuselage Id suggest avoiding that temptation The Stinson used 4 PK screws to attach the fabric to the ribs and to the stringers above the fuselage I know because I have a coffee can with hundreds of these screws that I removed from my plane Above the fuselage there are four hatshysection aluminum stringers On my Stinson the fabric was attached to each of these stringers with 10 PK screws at 3-inch intervals beginning aft of the leading edge and running back just aft of the rear spar I believe thats how it was done originally I would not suggest rib-stitching beshycause the sharp edges of the hat-section stringers would cut the lacing And of course there is the matter of legality Rib-stitching would be a modification from the original construction certainly not appropriate in this situation
The photo on page 5 shows apparshyent ballooning of the fabric over the cabin area of the fuselage but theres more to this than meets the eye At the Stinson factory a blanket of fibershyglass insulation was installed above the cabin Old photos show this insushylation installed above the stringers I believe the fabric was then attached through the insulation to the stringers with the PK screws That puffy look above the cabin may be caused (at least in part) by the insulation Ive
We had a couple of folks ask if we could show a comparison shot highlighting loose fabric with the Stinson as an example In 1999 EAAs crack photo staff took air-to-air photos of a couple of Stinsons The top photo shows the fabric ballooning above the cabin In the lower photo the airplane restored by noted Stinson 108 rebuilder Butch Walsh of Arrington Virginia clearly shows the 4 PK (Parker-Kalon) screws that secure the fabric to the cabin roof stringers before the finishing tapes are applied
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discussion Im sure there are others out there who know more about this than I do Id enjoy hearing from anyshyone interes ted in Stinsons I have a website that I call Hangar 9 Aeroworks It features my project and other information on the 108-series Stinsons The URL is wwwhangar9 aeroworkscom
John Baker Damascus Maryland
Dip and HG were the first to agree with the members who wrote and called in to take them to ta sk for not confirming the exact method of attachment used by Stinson The intent of the original write-up was not to compos e a Stinson maintenance manual but to highlight the hazards inherent in any fabric job that is not propshyerly installed Our comments were meant to elicit a response from the membership in cluding expe rts like Butch Walsh Boy did they ever respond
Each of us is required to confirm the exact methods us ed by the manufacturer or subsequently apshyproved modifications and to scrupulously duplicate those methshyods The type certificate drawings and other information are often
seen Stinsons with the original type insulation that had the puffy look while sitting quietly on the ground
Dip Davis is correct that the Stinshyson did not originally cover the tanks on the 108s though Ive seen many restorations with the tanks covered There can be a bit of a problem with fabric tapes not adhering well to the perimeter of the tanks In fact I had a few tapes come loose once on a trip to EAA Chapter 643 s fl y-in at Pittstown New Jersey in 1993 A litshytle contact cem ent and some help from Chapter 643 got me back home okay Shortly after that I decided it was time for a complete re-cover job
Here s one more item about balshylooning fabric on the Stinson 108s that I learned from Stinson guru Butch Walsh The cabin fresh air intakes are on the leading edge of th e wing (as shown on page 17 of th e March issue of Vintage Airplane) Th ese vents feed into a chamber inside the inboard rib bay This chamber is not sealed very well so forced air spills out into the wing as well as into the cabin Taking care to seal this chamshyber can eliminate some problems with fabric on the inboard portion of th e wing and will provide more fresh air in the cabin
I hope this will contribute to the
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Dont blindly follow the lead of someone who may have restored the airplane in the past-they ma y have missed something that is required How many times have you seen a poorly placed inspection hole only to hear II But that was the way it was inshystalled on the airplane when I got it I Only the factory drawings and any supplemental type certifishy
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As both HG and I have pOinted out in the past the covering supshypliers have specific instructions on how their covering methods are to be installed Since covering with the Poly-Fiber Cooper Superflight Ai r-Tech or other processes were not included in the type certificate for the airplanes that we were dealshying with here an STC for their installation was obtained by the resp ective companies If their method is not followed you run the risk of having the covering job re jected by an IA (AampP with inshyspection authorization) mechanic andor the FAA for not conformshying to the STC If an STCd part is installed on an aircraft and the methods spelled out in the STC are not followed the aircraft is unshyairworthy Un-airworthy aircraft dont have very good resale values and besides you can t fly them And thats the point of all of this right Let s get out there do it right and fly safely
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Outstanding Open Cockpit Biplane DeHaviliand Tiger Moth DH82A N8879 Michael Williams Columbus Indiana
World War II Era (1942-1945) Runner-Up Closed Cockpit Biplane Beechcraft Staggerwing N1532M Bob Strunk Union Kentucky
Vintage Plaques Classic Best Aeronca Champ Aeronca Champ 7 AC N81585 Wayne Raye Stockbridge Georgia
Best Beechcraft Twin Beech D18S N213SP Alan Wright Naples Florida
Best Bellanca Bellanca 14-19 N6563N Charles Should is Rapid City South Dakota
Best Cessna 120140 Cessna 140 N89221 J Young Hudson Wisconsin
Best Cessna 170180 Cessna 170 N4034V John Nielsen Bloomer W isconsin
Best Cessna 190195 Cessna 195B N195SB Scott Boynton Campbell Hall New York
Best Ercoupe Ercoupe N2679
David Abrams Salem New Hampshire
Best Luscombe Luscombe 8A NC45504 James Zazas Carthage North Carolina
Best Navion Ryan Navion N4891 K Charles Stites Chapel Hill North Carolina
Best Piper J-3 Piper J-3 Cub NC88113 Willard Beatty Jr Holly Springs North Carolina
Best Piper Other Piper PA-18 N160CW Charles Wiplinger Inver Grove Height Minnesota
Best Stinson Stinson 108-3 N6355M Neil Logerwell Kent Washington
Best Swift Swift GC-1 B N3378K Jared Smith Huntington Beach California
Best Taylorcraft Taylorcraft BC12D N96841 Elmer Marting Monona Iowa
Best Limited Production DeHaviliand Beaver N34EB Paul Oakes Wasilla Alaska
Most Unique Emigh Trojan N8351 H Jerry Petro Williamsburg Virginia
Preservation Aeronca Chief NC4128E Edward Maxwell Louisville Kentucky
Vintage Plaques Contemporary Outstanding Beech Single Engine Bonanza N35 N1397Z Richard amp Dawn Barnett Waldron Arkansas
Outstanding Beech Multiengine Beech G18S N933GM Carla Payne Fort Worth Texas
Outstanding Cessna 150 Cessna 150 N7835E Robert Unternaehrer Brunswick Missouri
Outstanding Cessna 170172175 Cessna 172C N1499Y Randall Hockenberry Ft Wayne Indiana
Outstanding Cessna 180182-210 Cessna 182B N8407T Roger Schmidt Big Bear Lake California
Outstanding Piper PA-22 Tri Pacer PA-22 Tri-Pacer N9508D Tim Lewis amp John Brandon Jonesboro Arkansas
Outstanding Piper PA-24 Comanche PA-24 Comanche N45MB Kelly Wright Spokane Washington
Outstanding Mooney Mooney N6402U Raymond Miller Colorado Springs Colorado
Outstanding Limited Production Aircoupe F-1A N3044G Jack Arthur Des Moines Iowa
Outstanding Custom Class I Single Engine (0-160 hp) Piper PA-22-150 N6043D James Douglass Kennedyville Missouri
Outstanding Custom Class III Single Engine (231 hp amp higher) Piper PA-24 N8071 P Jim Simmons Nashville Tennessee
Outstanding Class IV Multi Engine Piper PA-23 N3187P Michael Luigs Bandera Texas
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 3
VAANEWS compiled by HG Frautschy
COVERS FRONT COVER Ronnie Cox and Greg Davis of Fort Lauderdale Florida cruise above Floridas Gulf Coast waters with their 1962 250 Comanche EM photo by Jim Koepnick shot with a Canon EOS1 n equipped with an 80-200 mm lens on 100 ASA Fuji slide film EM Cessna 210 photo plane flown by Bruce Moore
BACK COVER Fay Gillis Summer 29 is the title of Frank Warrens acrylic painting awardshyed an Excellence ribbon in the 2001 EAA Sport Aviation Art competition It depicts a young Fay beside a Curtiss Fledgling at Garden City Long Island in August 1929 A month later she was forced to bailout of a Fledgling becoming the second female memshyber of the Caterpillar Club Fay was a charshyter member of the 99sFrank Warren can be reached at fljlwearthlinknet or by calling 805967-5473
SPORT PI LOT
ALMOST READY FOR NPRM
EAA President Tom Poberezny has written to FAA Administrator Jane Garvey and US Secretary of Transshyportation Norman Mineta asking for their personal intervention to expedite the return of the proposed sport pilot package back to the FAA one of the many steps in the process headed toshywards the publication of a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM)
Tom wrote Over the last eight years a tremendous volume of work-by both the government and the private sector-has gone into moving this complex regulatory package to its current status We reshyquest that you keep the same level of emphasis on completing the final steps to publication by facilitating every opportunity for expeditious handling by the Office of Manageshyment and Budget
Tom reiterated EAAs appreciation for DOTs and FAAs public comshymitment and acknowledgement of [sport pilots] positive impact reshy
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During EAA AirVenture Oshkosh the Vintage Aircraft Association and EAAs Government Services office hosted a meeting with the FAAs Mike Gallagher and Tom McSweeney (right) along with most of the type club representatives who attended the Convention Aging airshycraft issues were the primary topics of discussion In particular the thorny issues concerning the release of technical information by type certificate holders and especially the disposition of that same information related to long dormant type certificates was discussed As pointed out by Gallagher the FAA cannot legally release information unless the type certificate has been surrendered
Also discussed was the ongoing process of Airworthiness Concern Sheets (ACS) and the general consensus was that the program is working well to head off potential Airworthiness Directives Both Gallagher and McSweeney pointed out that only half of the ACS issued during 2001 had become Airworthiness Directives In previous years they all would have become ADs
An ACS issued on the spring steel main landing gear installed on older Cessnas was the subject of another meeting hosted by EAAs Government Programs specialist Randy Hansen and the Cessna Pilots Association President John Frank The meeting was intended to gather firsthand information about any difficulties being experienced with the gear by owneroperashytors It was their opinion that the difficulties highlighted by the FAAs sheet were the result of operations outside of what was considered normal and that the issue could be properly dealt with by adherence to a Cessna service bulletin EAA and the Cessna Pilots Association used input from that meeting to help formulate the response to the ACS
garding increased safety and imshyproved economy of recreational aviation (You can read Toms letters on the EAA sport pilot website at wwwsportpiotorg)
The proposed sport pilot rule has the potential to impact many vintage airshyplane owneroperators who may be able to operate their aircraft under a new set of rules For more detailed inshyfonnation you can read Sport Pilot For the Vintage Airman in the June issue of Vintage Airplane or you can read it online at wwwvintageaircra(torg
Volunteers make the world of EAA and VAA happen and one of this years enhancements to the vintage area was the installation of a new windsock frame and sock Behind the scenes in EAAs workshops a number of volunteers spend their summers helping us spruce up the place and Barb Lowell was kind enough to sew up the new bright red windsock featured in the August issue Barb and her husband John have been coming to EAA to volunteer for more than eight years They hail from Bulverde Texas After their arrival in May Barb and her fellow volunteers in the sewing room repair the flags and banners that decorate the EAA grounds and sewing replacement wind socks Later (n the summer they help decorate the EAA grounds by planting thousands of flowers on the convention grounds Our thanks to Barb and the many others who spend their summers helping us here at EAA and VAA
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Vintage Aircraft Markings Comments
Your article on markings is very good and needed I might add We run into these issues all the time Mostly with FAA inspectors oddly enough who dont run into anshytiques all that often I thought Id highlight a couple of points that may also be worthy of mention
Many owners confuse the use of the c or R or X on their airshyplanes with use on the registrations or other permanent records such as 337s The regulation refers to disshyplay on the aircraft but no other use And the FAA continues to use the common N number without the additional letter on all documents Sometimes a registration will pass with the extra letter but usually they will request that it be drafted without
Note paragraph 4522(b) the part that says may be operated without displaying marks in accordance with paragraphs 4521 and 4523 through 4533 if (then it goes on to detail the display of the C R X L etc) What this means is if the aircraft is experimental for instance the 2-inch high (or more) EXPERIshyMENTAL placard need not be displayed This is the one the inshyspectors always miss They go right for the cabin entry or passenger cockpit and look for the EXPERIshyMENTAL billboard Not having to put this on the airplane is a real plus for an owner with an aircraft that has the same external configurashy
tion as an aircraft built at least 30 years ago in other words a replica
Hope this is helpful Im probably preaching to the choir here as you always publish inSightful comment on the FARs
Roy Redman (VAA 777) Faribault Minnesota
I have just finished reading Vinshytage Aircraft Markings and would like to make this comment The FAA is not judging our airplanes I have judged EAA aircraft at our local flyshyins for more than a decade although not at Oshkosh All of the informashytion I have or have seen concerning judging stresses authenticity Over the years I have rebuilt several airshycraft that are now antiques It distresses me greatly to see a beautishyfully restored aircraft and then have the restorer take a shortcut and put on modern numbers This is not authentic as the aircraft did not come out of the factory this way If I inspect the airplane you can be sure that I will go over it minutely and nitpick I would suggest that in fushyture gUidelines to judges that authenticity be again stressed I wouldnt go so far as to require Grade A cotton although this of course is what was probably origishynally used
John Beebe (VAA 19313) White Stone Virginia
During the judging process all markshyings on the aircraft both the registration numbers and smaller placshyards and decals are judged on their authenticity The guidelines published for use by EAAVAA judges stress that concept Heres what the guidelines have to say
I FORWARD Throughout these standards
will be found the one concept that reshyflects the opinion of the majority of those individuals contacted during the development of these guidelines That concept is authenticity The standards are constructed to encourage the indishyvidual to complete and maintain a factory fresh aircraft If the individshyuals desire is to deviate from this goal for personal whim or other reasons the cost ofnot conforming to pure aushythenticity is known in advance A portion of the guidelines pertain[s] to the documentation of authenticity as it relates to the aircraft The exhibitor is encouraged to prove the authenticity with pictures letters factory specificashytions or any of the means which will alleviate the need for judges opinion in determining authenticity
For the complete text ofEAA s Judgshying Standards manual you can buy a copy by calling EAA Membership Sershyvices at 800843-3612 or you can view the pages on EAA s website at wwwairventureorg 200ljudging -HG Frautschy
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 5
AMIR Originally published in the September 1924 issue of The Wide World Magazine
BY JAM~S WHITTAH~R
ILLUSTRAT~D BY FE HIL~Y
On February 17th last at Ellington Field Houston Texas Gates Flying Circus
a well-known American company of stunt flyers was giving an exhibishytion for the benefit of the Thirty-sixth Division Air Service of the American Army One of the scheduled items was a daring parashychute descent by a y~)Ung chorus girl Rosalie Gordon It was not the first time she had essayed the feat having worked with the Gates Circus on the Pacific coast the previous year
Dressed in a white satin pilots uniform with little red buttons she ascended in a plane driven by Clyde Pangborn one of the Circus finest pilots Behind her in the rear cockpit sat Milton Girton who was to assist her in her preparations for the leap
It had rained in the morning the sky was full of low-lying clouds and at two thousand feet it was decided that she should make her leap The parachute was in a container tied to the landing gear of the plane with a short rope another rope connected the parachute with the girl who stepped coolly out onto the wing inshy
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spected the harness about her waist to see that it was properly adjusted and then jumped off into space
For a dozen feet or so she dropped headlong momentarily expecting the canopy of the parachute to open as usual and check her swift descent Instead she suddenly felt a terrific jerk and found that she was hanging suspended underneath the aeroshyplane trailing after it at the end of the ropes attached to the harness about her waist Her light weight was not enough to spring the trap of the parachute and a ring at the edge of the canvas canopy to which one of
the supporting ropes was attached had caught on a rod projecting from the landing gear From this fixture Miss Gordon now swung helplessly above the heads of the crowd
It was a fearful predicament Unshyable to crawl back or to free the parachute it seemed that certain death awaited the poor girl As long as the petrol lasted she was comparshyatively safe-unless she became detached and the parachute still failed to open-but once the plane was forced to land she would inshyeVitably be dragged to death beneath it Unless she could somehow be got
back onto the plane nothing could save her
Below the crowd of five thousand people looked on for a while uncomshyprehendingly To them it was at present all part of the show but the personnel of the Circus and the other practical aviators on the ground realshyized only too well the tragedy that was threatening Orders rang out sharp and decisive and half-a-dozen planes took to the air circling vainly about the swinging girl in an atshytempt to solve the problem The onlookers began to understand that something was seriously amiss Planes of the type used-this one was equipped with a 180 hp Hisso motor-land at express speed Thirty miles an hour is the minimum which meant that Rosalie would be dashed to pieces and her body manshygled beneath the tailskid directly as the machine came down As it was the anxious Pangborn having swooped earthwards to let those beshylow see her predicament the helpless girl hung perilously near the rough ground
Plane after plane with men lying out along the wing surfaces knife in hand hoping to cut her loose if posshysible swept past Pangborns machine risking imminent collision All of them however failed as did the frantic efforts of Girton himself who crawled out onto the landing gear and for half an hour battled desshyperately to pull the girl up to a perch on the axle and comparative safety But a previous hour of daredevil stunts had weakened him and he found his strength insufficient for the task
Then it was that Thompson one of the would-be rescuers swooped ground wards with his plane Someshything white fluttered from his machine as he rose again with a roar An official picked the object up-a piece of cardboard on which was the scribbled message Send Freddy up with a rope Will pick him up He can help pull her Up
It was cryptic enough to the uninishytiated but those who knew realized
INSTINCTIV~LY
PANGBORN AND
THOMPSON R~AD
WHAT WAS IN ON~
ANOTH~RS MINDS AND
SOON TH~ TWO
MACHIN~S W~R~
SAILING SID~-BY-SID[
WING ALMOST
TOUCHING WING
that one of the most daring feats ever attempted was to be put into operation to save the apparently doomed girl
Presently Thompson came to earth and into his plane climbed Freddy Lund a former member of the Circus but now in commercial life Up toward Pangborns machine with that helpless figure dangling beshyneath it Thompsons aeroplane shot until it was flying close below Lund climbing out on the upper wing reached frantically up in an effort to grasp Rosalies feet in the hope that their combined weight would release the catch of the parachute and let them both down to safety But the bumpy rise and fall of the planes made the maneuver impossible and it was speedily evident that another and even more desperate method would have to be tried if the girl was to be saved
Instinctively Pangborn and Thompson read what was in one anshyothers minds and soon the two machines were sailing side-by-side wing almost touching wing Then Lund swung himself down a stage lower and the crowd below gasped Hundreds of binoculars showed what was to be attempted and men and women sank on their knees and prayed openly that the fearless men aloft might be able to carry out their purpose
Just when it seemed that the two machines must become locked in a death grip which would send both of them hurtling to destruction Lund stretched out a hand grasped a strut on Pangborns plane and leapt across the gulf For an instant he swayed slid almost fell and then a great shout went up Hes done it Hes done it
It was a wonderful effort Usually this change from plane to plane pershyilous enough at the best of times is only attempted with nonskid strips on the wings and rubber shoes on the feet of the aviator Lund made it with slippery leather-soled boots on wings like shining glass
Only he knew how near he was to failure as a matter of fact his feet slid away beneath him but he clung to the strut with all his strength and so saved himself A white-faced man down below dropped his field glasses and gasped
Its a miracle he said solemnly But the rescue was far from being
accomplished yet Recovering himshyself Lund scrambled into the cockpit and then out of that and down onto the landing gear where Girton was still continuing his vain efforts to haul the girl up Together they heaved and strained at the rope but it was quickly seen from below that their combined efforts were inshysufficient and a groan broke from the crowd when Lund was seen laboshyriously climbing back into the cockpit
Theyve failed Theyve failed The cry went up
It certainly seemed so and matshyters looked grave for the anxious officials of the Circus knew that the sands of time were fast running out in another direction The petrol supshyply carried by the plane was limited Once it was exhausted and landing was imperative in which case nothshying could save the girl if she remained in her present position Many of the offiCials in fact were convinced that she was as good as dead already
Not so Pangborn and Lund how-
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After the ordeal Rosalie Gordon is seen in the centre with Lund who rescued her on the right The two other aviators are Pangborn and Thompson
came to earth in perfect fashion The onlookers released from the
restraint of their pent-up emotions at once surged wildly forward on to the ground but mounted attendants and armed police drove them back and an ambulance came dashing up with screeching horn
From underneath the plane crawled three disheveled but almost unhurt figures The two aviators had taken the slight shock of a perfect landing on their broad backs and they rose to their feet stiffly specks of blood on their faces and wrists from cuts caused by the rope from which Rosalie Gordon had been susshypended Daredevil flyers though they were both they and Pangborn showed the strain of the last halfshyhour All of them were white-faced and trembling
I was afraid the petrol would give out said Pangborn I kept circling over a little lake out there I thought that if we were forced to land it would be better than the ground
He walked over and measured the spirit in his tank and his face was eloquent He had just three minutes supply left
At first the little actress laughed hysterically but when a friend Esshyther Gray rushed up to her and embraced her she broke down and cried
So ended one of the biggest thrills and one of the finest exhibitions of heroism in the history of aviation Few flying men possess sufficient skill to carry out the work of the resshycue accomplished by Pangborn Lund and Girton-fewer still pershyhaps would have had the courage to attempt it
Seven years later Clyde Pangborn would be world famous for being the pilot on the first nonstop crossshying of the Pacific but in 1924 his cool head helped save a young lady parachutist from certain death
ever A few shouted words between them and then Lund took over the controls while Pangborn descended the frail under-rigging supports and joined the indefatigable Girton on the landing gear
Pangborn was slight of build but marvelously strong an open-air life and constant exercise had given him sinews of steel Crooking one leg over the axle and hanging on with one hand he slipped the other foot down and got a toehold under the girls belt Immediately she clasped him round the leg and with Girton carrying out a similar maneuver she was slowly raised until both men could reach her with their free hands A mighty heave and they hauled her into comparative safety on the axle-a wooden crosspiece three inches wide between the landshying wheels One says comparative safety advisedly There was little more than three feet of clearance beshytween the axle and the base of the plane and it was still a tossup whether through the give of the springs in landing anyone on the axle would not be crushed It was a risk that had to be taken however
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for nothing more could be done Once more Pangborn changed
places with Lund while Miss Gorshydon clung to the axle in a half-fainting condition Considering the fearful mental strain she had unshydergone her demeanor had been admirable she had followed the mens attempts to rescue her coolly and intelligently and had done everything she could to help them It was no wonder that the reaction was now making itself felt
Unfamiliar as he was with the controls of the plane Lund preferred the more dangerous job of holding Miss Gordon on the landing gear to the task of attempting to land So (swarming down) he took his placed beside her while the pilot dropped earthward in slow wide circles
The management fearing an accishydent when the landing was made sent a motorcar out onto the field in case the three people clinging to the gear might prefer to try and drop into it as it ran along under the plane Pangborn however perhaps wisely preferred the risks of a regushylar landing and in a final long swoop he swept over the grass and
MOST AVIATORS VIVIDLY REMEMBER
THEIR FIRST AIRPLANE RIDE AND CHERISH
THAT FOND MEMORY
AND THOSE OF US WHO HAVE BEEN
FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO OWN OUR OWN
AIRPLANE REMEMBER THAT IN VIVID
DETAIL AS WELL By Ev CASSAGNERES
We remember how we found it and the details of that first step in our aviation
life Perhaps that purchase was made under unique circumstances not simply by writing a check You may find the story of my first airplane similar to yours you may find it just plain interesting or you may be startshying that search
This story begins shortly after Aushygust 141945 V] Day the end of World War II On September 27 that same year I applied for and was hired as a line boy for Reynolds Flying Service at the New Haven Municipal Airport near New Haven Connecticut
I was in high school (Hillhouse High) at that time and would ride my
bull Irs
bicycle to school every day rain snow or shine Then to get to work after school I rode it to the airport I did all the dirty work sweeping out the hangar and shop gassing and oilshying airplanes and washing and hand-propping airplanes when necesshysary Some were as big as Pratt amp Whitney R-985s I also helped out in the shop with repairs rib stitching and doping
Later that month I was on a bus ridshying from New Haven to my home in Westville a suburb of New Haven As we headed out Edgewood Avenue I happened to look out the window on the right side and nearly went nuts with excitement at what I saw It was in the yard of the Acme Auto Top Company
As soon as I got home I jumped onto my bicycle and rode back to see that airplane at Acme When [ met the owner Steve he said he wanted to sell it for $80 He showed me the wings tail surfaces and prop which were inshyside the building
The airplane was a 1929 Comshymand-Aire 3C-3T serial number 614 registration number NC901E It had a Curtiss OX-5 engine serial number 2116
The wings had silver fabric the
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fuselage was red and the tail surshyfaces were silver I was absolutely thrilled to just touch it I was only 17 years old and wondered how in the world I would ever come up with $80 for the airplane It was beautiful even though it most likely needed a complete rebuild to airshyworthy condition As partial payment for my work as a line boy I had been taking dual instruction in a Piper J-3C65 I wondered if I could even fly this airplane
At about this time I was also getshyting into serious bicycle racing through my friend Phil Kittredge who was already the Connecticut State Junior Champion He was not a pilot but agreed to be a partner in this endeavor Between us we came up with $15 as a down payment which we gave to Steve with a promise to get the rest as soon as we could
I went to work setting pins in loshycal bowling alleys and did some caddying at Yale Golf Course near where I lived both good jobs for a teenager at that time Phil and I
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These two shots are from the collection of Shelby Hagberg and are of the very ship forshymerly owned by then 17-yearshyold Ev Cassagneres Its a 1929 Command-Aire 3C-3T NC901 E serial number 614 Taken at Curtiss Field on Long Island New York The airplane was painted with silver wings and horizontal tail surface and a red fuselage and rudder
could not seem to raise enough cash to satisfy the airplane owner so we lost out on the deal and he kept the 15 bucks Of course we were devastated
In the meantime a local affluent gentleman who also collected anshytique automobiles managed to purchase the Command-Aire He had it moved out in the country in the town of Bethany It sat there out in a field with the wings laid out in the grass of an open field deterioratshying in the elements Occasionally I would cycle out there to look at it touch it and dream or fantasize
On January 21 1946 the new owner who knew who I was and that I was interested in the airplane called me and asked if I was still inshyterested He said he would sell it on a trade basis Needless to say I would come up with something
I happened to have a French-built Automoto bicycle that I was quite fond of but would be willing to part with It was worth about $80 so we did an even swap Now I had to find a place to put it and figure out a way
to get it home about 5 miles My friend Phil came to the rescue
again You see my own parents never did own a car or have drivers licenses Phil had the use of his fashythers 1937 Plymouth four-door car So we tied the tailskid in the trunk with clothesline rope and put the wings on the roof secured with ropes tied all over the place
We started out to drive the 5 miles to my house in Westville Well two young sporty guys couldshynt just go straight there and that would be that could they We realshyized that the local high school was due out at 230 in the afternoon So we just happened to detour with all of this interesting cargo over some hills to the school and we got there just as the students were getshyting out Many we knew and of course we directed our attention mainly to the girls So whats the story they would ask and that was all we needed We ahem had just flown down from some exotic place in northern Canada and planned on rebuilding the airplane for some other exotic adventure It was amazshying how convincing we could be and how gullible they were We did all of this while wearing an old pair of gogshygles and a helmet and with mischievous faces they still believed us so we let it go at that We laughed all the way home
The airplane sat in my backyard the rest of the winter as I worked on it although I really did not know what I was doing I did get the enshygine running a couple of times The sound and smell was exciting like a concert orchestra to me My parents gave me a lot of encouragement and enjoyed my project
However my enthusiasm and fanshytasy of flight were not to last very long We lived on the third floor of a three-family house and the landlord was not at all happy over this kid having an airplane in the backyard of our neighborhood So it had to go What to do We did not own a car so no garage was available and I could not find any other suitable
This shot taken at Curtiss Field as well clearly shows the split-axle landing gear and Fokker Dvll-styled wing center section as designed by famed aero engineer Albert Voellmecke
place for it So the bottom line was simple-I had to sell it And I never even took a picture of it nor did any of the neighbors
A schoolmate of mine by the name of Billy Gilbert also a stushydent pilot showed some interest and he lived in the town of Bethany That town had a grass runway airport and it was one of the oldest airports in New Engshyland where supposedly American Airlines got started Famous aviashytors had flown out of there names such as Bert Acosta Clarence Chamberlin Guss Graff Jack Tweed Franklin T Hank Kurt Bob Noorduyn (Norseman) and Batch Pond (Pond Creams) (The Bethany airport managed to stay in existence until the early 1980s)
On May 291946 Billy Gilbert came to the house with a farm rack truck and $30 loaded up the airshyplane and drove away That was the last time I saw it as r stood there and cried However I had hidden the propeller in our basement and still
have it as a memento in addition to a section of wing fabric with the black number NC901E on it
So what became of that old airshyplane Billy wen t into the Navy and his parents eventually sold the ship to a local junk and scrap dealer who was mainly interested in the OX engine That was the end of it I searched many years later but it was gone
Years later I came across many Command-Aire photographs and the ones shown with this article are all I have of that fond memory
Sometime after that I owned a 1941 Waco UPF-7 which I made my first dollar with by towing signs allover the place out of the Bethany airport and then a 1936 Ryan ST and now I have a 1953 Cessna 170B which I fly often (my first closed-in type)
Sometimes for old times sake r will fly the 170 with helmet and goggles and white scarf and the winshydows open See one never loses the thrill of real flight
In closing I can say that if one wants to fly bad enough one will find a way It is a healthy disease that can be most appreciated as you feel the wind in your face up in the air over our beautiful countryside
What else do I do now for fun My new book The Untold Story of The Spirit Of St Louis will be out next year 2002 the 75th annivershysary of Lindberghs epic flight This book has been a labor of love for decades and it will be published by Historic Aviation Books
When that is done I plan to write the history of Command-Aire and also some Connecticut aviation hisshytory In particular Im going to document the stories of the Cairns airplane the Kimball Beetle sevenshycylinder aircraft radial engine the Scorpion aircraft engine the Bristol gliders that were manufactured on Edgewood Avenue near the Acme Auto Top Company (see story) and the Bourdon- and Viking-built Kitty Hawk airplanes
After that I may retire
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 11
TYPE CLUB
Some Thoughts on Restoration and Airworthiness Originally appeared in Waco World News Vol I No 36 MaylJune 2001
by Robert G Lock
Restoring an airplane is a lot like flying-hours and hours of someshytimes boring work separated by a few moments of stark terror As one approaches the end of a restoration project there comes a time for certishyfication by the FAA unless the airplane has a permanent airworthishyness certificate Receiving that all-important permanent standard airworthiness certificate is the final objective This article will give some background on past certification procedures especially for airplanes that go back to the beginning of government rules and regulations
Governments entry into aviashytion essentially began with the creation of the Aeronautics Branch of the Department of Commerce Near the top of the agenda of the new bureaucracy was the certificatshying of airplanes pilots and eventually mechanics Approved type certificates (ATC) began in March 1927 and continue to this day Registration numbers were reshyquired and were painted on the wings and tail The Roman capital letter N denoting registration in the United States followed by the letter C for commercial X for
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experimental R for restricted and L for limited were adopted Design requirements needed for an ATC were contained in Aeronautics Bulletin 7 later 7A ATCs were numshybered sequentia lly beginning with 1 and ending with 817 (a new ATC numbering system was introduced after number 817) The certificating of pilots and later mechanics closely followed as the government tried to regulate the beginning of the aviation industry
Obtaining an ATC to manufacshyture and sell an airplane was costly even in the early days Group 2 apshyprovals were awarded to a person or company when only a limited numshyber of aircraft were to be built either as a new design or as a modification of an existing airplane being manushyfactured under an ATe The Group 2 approvals were cheaper and easier to obtain but design and manufacshyture were equiva lent to approved type cert ificates
An important item to remember is that if an airplane was designed to Aeronautics Bulletin 7 or 7A it still must meet those requirements toshyday So for some restorers a copy of this manual is helpful
Another bit of information critishycal to certification is that there were no permanent airworthiness certifishycates in the old days A representative of the government re -certificated the airplane annushyally and a new airworthiness certificate was issued The papershywork f i le in Washington DC became immense There was a file folder for each registered aircraft and all hard copy paperwork was meticulously maintained Even telegrams were retained
Each file folder was a complete diary of the airplane from owners to inspections and repairs Some of this data is available today on mishycrofiche For most all aircraft the original hard copy files have been placed on microfiche and then the hard copy fi les were destroyed I have seen original files that are still stored in Suitland Maryland Most of those files are not on microfiche
ATC data is also known as type design data Type design data can be found in the Aircraft Listing Enshygine Listing and Prope ll er Listing (for fewer than SO airp lanes regisshytered) and in the Aircraft Engine and Propeller Specification Sheets
for the middle-aged aircraft For airplanes of this vintage this
is the only source of data for the reshystorer If youre really lucky there may be copies of original factory drawings available as a valuable supplement However most of the factory drawings for many antique aircraft have been destroyed Fortushynately for Waco restorers factory drawings are available Drawings are invaluable when restoring old airplanes I searched for the Comshymand-Aire drawings but determined that they had all been destroyed However in my search I did locate some valuable type deshysign data from a most unusual source which might be fuel for anshyother story
In the mid 1930s the aviation inshydustry continued to grow By an act of Congress the government creshyated the Civil Aeronautics Administration (CAA) The CAA took regulations created by the Aeronautics Branch of the Departshyment of Commerce and expanded its bureaucratic role in aviation It created Civil Aviation Regulations (CAR) and Civil Aviation Manuals (CAM) Requirements of approved type were now contained in the CARs CAR 3 was certification for small aircraft Also to appear was the mechanics bible CAM 18 which spelled out requirements for major repairs to aircraft This publishycation evolved into the present FAA Advisory Circulars AC4313-1B andshy2B which give data on major repairs and alterations
The annual re-certificating of airshycraft was still required and a new airworthiness certificate was given to the owner after the airplane was approved for return to service As the workload increased a new method of certificating was created DeSignated aircraft maintenance inshyspectors (DAM I) were selected to take over the re-certificating duties These were well-experienced airshy
craft and engine (AampE) mechanics that were hand selected by local CAA maintenance inspectors The airworthiness certificate was still isshysued every year but in the mid-1950s about the time that the Federal Aviation Agency (FAA) came to power things began to change for airworthiness certificates They became permanent The aircraft could be re-certificated every year by a DAMI and later by an FAA airshyframe and powerplant (AampP) mechanic who holds an inspection authorization (IA) So today the AampP with IA can return to service annual inspections many major reshypairs and some major alterations
Congress created the Federal Avishyation Agency in 1958 Soon after the word II Agency was dropped in favor of II Administration And government control and bureaushycracy continued to grow ever larger
While we are on the subject of the FAA perhaps an easy method to distinguish differences between mashyjor repairs and major alterations is to apply the following
If the repair returns the aircraft to its original type certificate afshyfects airworthiness and cannot be done using elementary techniques then it is a major repair
If the repair (or modification) alshyters conformity to the original type design data then it is a major alteration
If an AampP mechanic cannot apshyprove a major repair or major alteration then a field approval by an FAA maintenance inspector must be obtained Sometimes this is more complicated than can be imagined Maybe a future story on FAA field approvals would prove inshyteresting
If an aircraft has never had a pershymanent airworthiness certificate then one must be obtained Here again the FAA issues this certifishycate To obtain that treasured piece of paper you must fill out an applishy
cation and prove that the airplane conforms to its type certificate Sometimes this is very difficult Esshypecially if the original type design data is incomplete or missing I have seen file cabinets in FAA headshyquarters with drawers containing type design data Just like Joe Juptshyners US Civil Aircraft books each drawer had a folder with the ATC number on top Some of the folders contained data while some were empty When the folder was empty the FAA had no type design data other than data that was published in Aircraft Engine and Propeller Listing which is not very much
For the coveted permanent airshyworthiness certificate an FAA representative will conduct a conshyformity inspection The basis for the inspection could be one or more of the following FAA Airshycraft Engine and Propeller Listing or Specification Sheets microfiche of original aircraft records containshying airworthiness and registration data factory drawings (if available) and aircraft and engine operating limitations
In addition current weight and balance calculations with critical forward and aft loading (if reshyquired) a loading schedule (if required) and appropriate placardshying must be included A list of required optional and special equipment must accompany the weight and balance data And lastly FAA Form 337 (Major Repair amp Mashyjor Alteration) must be completed by the supervising AampPIA Aircraft and engine logbooks must have apshypropriate entries made and registration data must be shown After many months (or should I say years) of restoration work perhaps that small piece of paper that says PERMANENT AIRWORTHINESS CERTIFICATE-STANDARD is now in your hand Categories of the airshyworthiness certificate are NORMAL UTILITY and ACROBATIC
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Mike Sleineke
Yeah well just strip it and paint it
Shouldnt take more than a month Thats what Ronnie Cox and Greg Davis of Ft Lauderdale Florida said about their 1962 250 Comanche
Sound familiar That kind of comshyment is right up there with Well just clean up a few of the instrushyments or Gee wouldnt it look better with a new windshield
Not once in the history of vinshytage con tern porary airplanes has anyone
1 Removed just one part painted it and put it right back on without removing a bunch more first
2 Started to do just one restoration operation eg re-bush the landing gear and done only that one thing
3 Taken an engine off overhauled it and put it back on without redoshying everything in sight
4 Reupholstered just the front seats and stopped there
You get the picture Airplanes are a lot like tar babies and once you get
your fingers into them they generally suck you in right up to your navel and don t let you go until theres nothing left to do
Ronnie and Greg were both lookshying for a serious cross-country airplane they could use to run from Florida up to Ronnies summer house in the Michigan islands Ronnie had owned three Comanches in the past so that was his bird of choice For Greg it would be his first airplane ownership
Ronnie had a long history of airshyplane ownership and involvement because his dad was heavily involved in aircraft and used to fly him all over the country Plus he owned a long string of airplanes including a PT-19 and a bunch of Pipers including Tri-Pacers Pacers and such
Ronnie started flying while he was still based in Ohio in the 1960s
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The 2S0-hp six-cylinder Lycoming gives the Comanche Bonanza-rivaling speed (a cruise of 161 to 181 mph) and a useful load carrying capacity of up to 1200 pounds
Updated radios and a refurbished interior make the Comanche a comfortable cross-country speedster
and his wife and son learned to fly from the same CFI who taught both his father and him to fly
Cox an elecshytrical engineer by training had started his own enshygineering business years ago and even worked a Seneca II into it for corposhyrate transportation so by the time the 1962 Comanche entered thei r lives he had 5500 hours of flying time He recently sought a change in career and sold his business to fly for a comshymuter airline
Ronnie also had a business buildshying engines for drag racers that Greg said really helped because Ronshynie just has a feel for what has to be done to a machine mechanically to make it right
Cox enjoyed rebuilding airplanes almost from the beginning and his total restoration of a Cessna 140 won a Lindy Award as recognition that he was a hands-on kind of guy who farmed out as little of his airplane reshybuilding projects as possible However it was in looking for a little help while his son and he were reshybuilding his sons Cessna 120 (which also won a Lindy) that he met Greg Davis
We needed to have some alushyminum bent to make up a new spar doubler for the 120 Ronnie said and someone suggested we contact
this guy on the other side of the field Ronnie
laughed when he said this inshydicating something was coming We walked in with the original
doubler in our hand which was a litshytle crude and showed it to Greg This
was the first time Id laid eyes on him Ronnie said
He looked at the doubler threw it down and said No I cant make something like this I thought he was joking or something Then he said If I make it itll be better than that Greg can be a little cantankerous and Ronnie Cox laughed again
Greg Davis has run Davis Aircraft Services in Ft Lauderdale since 1985 and he specializes in doing structural repairs on corporate airplanes As such he has developed both the facilshyity and ability to do practically anything with sheet metal So beshytween Ronnies mechanical ability and Gregs feeling for sheet metal there was practically nothing they couldnt do to a little airplane
I had been part of an RV-4 buildshying project but got out of it because I was just too busy flying a friends Pitts S-2B Greg explained He said I could fly it as much as I wanted so I started competing and between that and work I didnt really have the time to own my own airplane
There was something about the chemistry between the two men that prompted them to want a cross-counshy
try airplane that could carry two guys 120 gallons of gas and our bagshygage Enter the Comanche
They ran into the airplane in Aushygust 1992 and it was a really sad example of the breed but the price was right and the sheet metal looked good Also it had no corrosion
Then they started comparing the logbooks to the actual airplane and found that someone had a fanciful imagination when it came to the defishynition of airworthiness directive (AD) compliance The Comanche has a bunch of fairly serious and expenshysive ADs Ronnie pointed out Over the years someone had been signing off the ADs but not doing them As they put it the airplane had about 25 years of pencil maintenance
We found a perfect example of how well this airplane was mainshytained when we replaced the tires One of the tubes was dated 1962 and had been on the airplane since it was built Greg said
The airplane had also been landed gear-up at some point in its career Again the previous keepers of the logs didnt see fit to mention this litshytle incident There were a bunch of scab patches on the belly we had to get rid of and we put new gear doors on it
Their approach to the sheet metal was simple If a panel needed a repair they would just replace the panel We re-skinned part of the turtledeck
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WHAT OUR MEMBERS ARE RESTORING by HG Frautschy and Norm Petersen
AERONCA 7DC Sitting on the grass at Lee Bottom Airport near Louisville Kentucky Mark
and Wendie Paszkiewiczs (VAA 580997) 1946 Aeronca 7DC is ready for a flight in the warm hazy skies along the Ohio River First delivered as a 7 AC to a Phoenix Arizona flight school in 1946 with the installation of a Conshytinental 85-hp engine it became an Aeronca 7De Partially restored when they bought the project Mark and Wendie couldnt resist rebuilding some parts Now they fly the Champ around to local fly-ins and just have fun in it after work
CHAMPION 7GCB Posed in the afternoon sunshine of Sky
Harbor Airport in Duluth Minnesota is a beautiful 1962 Champion 7GCB N9912Y serial number 7GCB-133 mounted on an immaculate set of PKshy1800 floats Recently re-covered and painted by veteran mechanic Don Macor (VAA 28788) of Duluth Minnesota this particular aircraft is quite rare in that it has only 706 hours total time on airframe and engine has a factory original outside baggage compartment door and is one of only six 7GCBs remaining on the US Register In addition during its entire 39shyyear lifespan only one authorized inspectors name is in the aircraft logshybooks-Don Macor Don reports the airframe was in very good shape with only minor surface rust on a few places The covering is Ceconite 101 with bushytyrate dope in Daytona white Miami blue and black trim Note the seaplane auxiliary fins on the stabilizers necessary with the added mass of the floats ahead of the CG
Unusual to this model of 150 hp Champion is the outside baggage door on the right side of the fuselage seen here in the open position and ready for access to the baggage compartment
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because we removed the beacon It takes alshymost as long to patch the hole correctly as it does to replace the enshytire panel and then you dont have that ugly patch up there
The same thing held true for the cowlshying which they say is a weak point in a Coshymanche Building a new one consumed an enormous amount of time
Comanche control surfaces are reshyally thin mostly 016 and 020 so it doesnt take much to bend them up This airplane had apparently seen some hail that was heavy enough to dent the control surfaces but not the rest of the airplane so Greg said we re-skinned most of the control surfaces
Early in the project when the pair realized the airplane was going to take more than simply stripping and painting they decided on a specific goal We wanted to make it a truly modern airplane almost a new one so we could depend on it So we did everything but de-mate the wing We removed every single wire and sysshytem in the entire airplane and rebuilt every part of it according to Ronnie
When it came to the avionics Greg said it was really grungy It had Mark 12 radios in it and by the time we were done removing layers and layers of old wiring we took about SO pounds of wires out
Part of making it a modern airshyplane meant building reliability into everything ahead of the firewall We put a 260-hp exhaust system on it along with a lightweight starter new mags and most important we put a new fuel pump on it and had it flowshychecked Weve had some really tragic accidents in the Comanche community because the fuel pump was working but it wasnt putting out enough to feed the engine at takeoff power
According to the pair the landing
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gear is another area that needs careful examination because it wears out quickly We pulled every bushing and part of the gear and found that much of it was really sloppy This makes it hard to rig and contributes to gear collapses We dont know the history to our airplanes accident but that could have played a part
Naturally everything in the inteshyrior was replaced including a new panel with modern everything and they installed shoulder harnesses at the same time To keep their passenshygers happy they installed a small TV set with a VCR in the back seat They also installed a 14-inch thick big windshield and routed the edges down so it would fit flush into the original mounting channels
It took five years to get the airshyplane ready to fly and then it took another three months to get the pashyperwork completed We filed eight 337s and one field approval Because I do so many similar things with the corporate aircraft I just approached this one the same way Greg Davis said I filed them all through a DER (deSignated engineering representashytive) but rather than doing them locally I invited the FAA to come up and take a look at the airplane
They are obviously proud of the FAAs reaction to the way they apshyproached their project II After they came up the first time they brought another group of guys up to take a look at it They told us they wanted everyone in their office to see this beshy
cause this is the way they like to see an airshyplane and the supshyporting paperwork done Seems like theres a lesson for the rest of us in there somewhere
Ronnie Cox said The Comanche is a great airplane but like all airplanes if it needs extensive work it can be really expensive if you dont do it yourshyself Theres an old
saying about Piper products Made by farmers for farmers and its true The airplane is really easy to work on but the best thing you can do is make sure you get a good airplane in the first place
Cox has a number of pOints that he said every wannabe Comanche owner should satisfy before he or she buys a particular airplane Besides the normal over-all condition stuff that affects every airplane there are some specifics which include
bull AD list and compliance-Undershystand what airworthiness directives affect the airplane and make sure they were actually done
bull Gear condition-Look for cracked knuckles and measure as many internal dimensions as posshysible
bull Gear-up damage-Gear-up landshyings often crush the structure that the gear motor is attached to Make sure it was repaired properly
bull Flap track condition-The flap tracks wear and need to be carefully checked
bull Flap motor-The flap actuation system and especially the motor have to be checked for condition
The CoxDavis Comanche has more than 200 hours on it now and its owners (or should they be called creators) say it does exactly what they wanted it to do It lets them go long distances in comfort and they have the peace of mind that comes from knowing everything within that airplane was done right
CHAMPION 7ED7FC Ownerpilot Mike Foote (VAA 365457) wrote to us concerning his terrific restoration IIManufactured by Champion Aircraft in 1959 N8539E began life as a Tri-Champ In 1983 it was convelted to a taidragshy
gerl but only 12 short flight hours later life changed dramatically for N8539E when it was severely damaged in a windstorm The ownerls initial impression was that it would never fly again The remains went through several owners each intent upon restorationl but finding the task a daunting onel each chose instead to pass it along to someone else with more ambition My tum came in July of1995 After 15 months ofintense restoration efforts N8539E became a plane again on October 261 1996 1 flew the plane from my home base in Olathel Kansas to Oshkosh in 1997 and had it judged in the Contemporary category My efforts were rewardedl as the Champion was selected as the Outstanding Champion aircraft for that year It is still going strong and is just as satisfying to fly today as it was for the first time II
TAYLORCRAFf DC-65
Chet Peek (VAA 13458) author of terrific books such as The First Cub and Resurrection ofa Jenny has gotshyten back into flying after losing his airplanes and Norman Oklahoma hangar during a tornado in 1998 Chefs bought Bruce Bixlers Taylorshycraft DC-65 This DC-65 is one of the rare early Taylorcraft Tandems which had aluminum spars and ribs A few in the same series became the first Taylorcraft L-2 liaison airplanes Chefs airplane is finished in the Civilian Training Programs colors of blue and yellow
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September Mystery Plane
by HG Frautschy
This months Mystery Plane is a rare metal plane from the collection of Pete Bowers
Send your answer to EAA Vinshytage Airp lane PO Box 3086 Oshkosh WI 54903-3086 Your anshyswer needs to be in no later than October 15 for inclusion in the Deshycember issue of Vintage Airplane
You can also send your response via e-m ail Send your answer to vintageeaaorg
Be sure to include both your name and address (especially your city and state) in the body of your not e and put (Month) Mystery Plane in the subject line
Plenty of you knew the June Mysshytery Plane surely one of those Don t you wish there was just one of th ese left kind of airplanes Heres our first letter
The Mystery Plane in the June 2001 edition of Vintage Airplane is an Ireshyland N-2 Neptune
Ireland N-2 Nep
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G Sumner Ireland had been an engineer for Curtiss up to 1926 He later formed Ireland Aircraft Inc at Curshytiss Field Garden City and marketed th e Ireland Comet Meteor Privateer and Neptune Th e N-2B Neptune (circa 1927) was a four-pla ce amphibian powshyered by a 300-hp Wright J-6 while the N-2C Nepshytun e was a fiv e-place amphibian with a 450-hp PampWWasp
Thomas H Lymburn Princeton Minnesota
And more on the various models of the Neptune
The June Mystery Plane is the Amshyphibians Incorporated Model N-2B or N-2C with either PampW Wa sp engine or the Wright Whirlwind 300 in the five- or six-place amphibian Modificashytions from the Ireland A ircraft Inc Model ND5-ND6 include strut covers and increased bow angle on the tip floats and an extended main hull float behind the step The three views are from the Aircraft Yearbook 3- View
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Drawings 1903-1946 Russ Brown Lyndhurst Ohio
With Juptn ers U S Civil A ircraft this one didn t take long to idenshytify Vol 2 p ages 151-153 for ATC 153 des cribes th e Ireland Neptun e N-2B With enough clarity in th e photo to note the license as NC-88K its listed as L ____v
production number 43
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and had a 300-hp Wright J-6 engine (affirmed by the long rocker-box eavshyers) (Abo ut this time some models were being upgraded with a 450 PampW Wasp for the model N-2C-ATC 248)
Ive always been very appreciative of Joe Juptners good coverage of all the ATCd US aircraft Over the years Ive been building scale models of more obshyscure aircraft as a hobby Ive drawn many of my plans from photos and dishymensions in US Civil Aircraft In fact I have a plan I drew for the Nepshytune N-2C though Ive not built it yet Thats why I recognized the June Mysshytery plane was a Neptune I lived in Ecuador for about 45 years and made most of the models of jungle hardshywoods in 1 32 scale
Bub Borman Dallas Texas
Junes Mystery Plane was easy It is Irelands Neptune NC-89K shown on page 143 of us Civil Aircraft Vol 3
by Juptner Both pictures were probably taken the same day Note the man at left in both pictures same suit hat and tie Note the taped wire or tube on left wing forward strut
Excuse this old typewriter Im 81 and darned ifIll get a new one now
Good magazine good association good people Thanks
Albert B Aplin Chuluota Florida
Ju st a note to say I think the Jun e Mystery Plane is one of the Ireland Airshycraft Inc Neptune series
G Sumner Irelands ideas on flying boats pre-date this N-2C version by several years so the name was not new to aviation
Th e N-2C for the June issue was one of about nine built in late 1929 and the early 1930s
It was powered by a 450-hp Pratt amp Whitn ey Wasp and had a chromoly frame around which were bulkheads of duralumin to which were fastened
formers and then the outer aluminum skin
Hope this entry will serve to put me in the winners circle But then you always are when you join the V AA
John Kennelley Norwalk Iowa
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Feedback on Loose Fabric
Weve gotten plenty of comshyments about the article concerning bulging fabric While it wasnt part of my column originally many of you have addressed your comments to me so Ill check in on the freshyquency
Before we get to that Id like to update you on the status of our Champ airworthiness directive compliance It went fine as you may recall reading in my July colshyumn but a funny thing happened after flying a bit in the rain-the paint we sprayed over the patches has started to come off Dang Usshying MEK I thought Id completely removed the lemon-scented furnishyture polish I use regularly to clean the leading edges but I guess I was wrong The paint on the leading edges is beginning to peel HG and I wonder if they put any silishycone in the polish Doesnt say so on the can but maybe its a secret ingredient The peeling paint makes the new name (see photo on page 26) for the Champ even more accurate
Lets get on with the loose fabric discussion
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First loose fabric is a hazard for a couple of reasons Loose fabric can chafe against fairing strips and fasshyteners weakening it If a fabric edge is caught in the slipstream it can easily be torn away The results can be disastrous If it gets tangled up with a control surface it can even cause a loss of control and at the very least the loose wildly flapping fabric can be a huge distraction Heres what some others had to say I cant say I agree with everyones comments but it certainly is intershyesting to see how fabrics are being applied in shops around the world Heres our first note
You must have received a lot of comments about the Stinsons bulging fabric Ill give you my 2~ worth
Ive re-covered at least four during the past 45 years and dozens of reshycovering jobs on many types of aircraft Ive used cotton Irish linen Ceconite Razorback and Stits Im sticking with Ceconite 101 which [ like best I like the smell of dope beshysides all the other good features
When I tighten Ceconite I set my iron at 400degF to 450degF ] do the initial
tightening with a heat gun Then] work it with the iron evenly until] can feel the right tautness Thats just the right drumming sound and feel After the first coat ofprimer nishytrate dope there may be a few slack areas I then go over them again but never holding the iron in one place very long
Every Stinson I re-covered had screws on the four stringers on top of the fuselage from the windshield back about 3 or 4 feet spaced 3 or 4 inches apart ] just looked at three Stinsons on our flight line and they all have the screws
Don Macor Duluth Minnesota
Dons method might work well for him but Id hesitate to suggest it to anyone else In particular the use of a heat gun is prohibited in the Poly-Fiber and other process manuals that deal with the installashytion of Dacron fabric Uneven heat application is the reason it is disshycouraged Id also point out that the Cooper Superflight manual among others highlights the fact that Dacron fabric will start to m~lt
when heated above 450degF Thats why Don says he does not linger too long when shrinking the fabric with an iron set above 400degF
I just received my July issue of Vinshytage Airplane I always look forward to its arriva l That cover photo of the Stearman is beautiful Hats off to Jim Koepnick who does such a great job ofphotographing these old planes
I was drawn to the article on page 4 Is that Covering too Slack I have an uncovered Stinson 108-3 sitting in my garage so perhaps I can shed some light on some of the details about covshyering the Stinson 108 series In the article someone said Id be tempted to rib-stitch the fabric to the upper stringers on the fuselage Id suggest avoiding that temptation The Stinson used 4 PK screws to attach the fabric to the ribs and to the stringers above the fuselage I know because I have a coffee can with hundreds of these screws that I removed from my plane Above the fuselage there are four hatshysection aluminum stringers On my Stinson the fabric was attached to each of these stringers with 10 PK screws at 3-inch intervals beginning aft of the leading edge and running back just aft of the rear spar I believe thats how it was done originally I would not suggest rib-stitching beshycause the sharp edges of the hat-section stringers would cut the lacing And of course there is the matter of legality Rib-stitching would be a modification from the original construction certainly not appropriate in this situation
The photo on page 5 shows apparshyent ballooning of the fabric over the cabin area of the fuselage but theres more to this than meets the eye At the Stinson factory a blanket of fibershyglass insulation was installed above the cabin Old photos show this insushylation installed above the stringers I believe the fabric was then attached through the insulation to the stringers with the PK screws That puffy look above the cabin may be caused (at least in part) by the insulation Ive
We had a couple of folks ask if we could show a comparison shot highlighting loose fabric with the Stinson as an example In 1999 EAAs crack photo staff took air-to-air photos of a couple of Stinsons The top photo shows the fabric ballooning above the cabin In the lower photo the airplane restored by noted Stinson 108 rebuilder Butch Walsh of Arrington Virginia clearly shows the 4 PK (Parker-Kalon) screws that secure the fabric to the cabin roof stringers before the finishing tapes are applied
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discussion Im sure there are others out there who know more about this than I do Id enjoy hearing from anyshyone interes ted in Stinsons I have a website that I call Hangar 9 Aeroworks It features my project and other information on the 108-series Stinsons The URL is wwwhangar9 aeroworkscom
John Baker Damascus Maryland
Dip and HG were the first to agree with the members who wrote and called in to take them to ta sk for not confirming the exact method of attachment used by Stinson The intent of the original write-up was not to compos e a Stinson maintenance manual but to highlight the hazards inherent in any fabric job that is not propshyerly installed Our comments were meant to elicit a response from the membership in cluding expe rts like Butch Walsh Boy did they ever respond
Each of us is required to confirm the exact methods us ed by the manufacturer or subsequently apshyproved modifications and to scrupulously duplicate those methshyods The type certificate drawings and other information are often
seen Stinsons with the original type insulation that had the puffy look while sitting quietly on the ground
Dip Davis is correct that the Stinshyson did not originally cover the tanks on the 108s though Ive seen many restorations with the tanks covered There can be a bit of a problem with fabric tapes not adhering well to the perimeter of the tanks In fact I had a few tapes come loose once on a trip to EAA Chapter 643 s fl y-in at Pittstown New Jersey in 1993 A litshytle contact cem ent and some help from Chapter 643 got me back home okay Shortly after that I decided it was time for a complete re-cover job
Here s one more item about balshylooning fabric on the Stinson 108s that I learned from Stinson guru Butch Walsh The cabin fresh air intakes are on the leading edge of th e wing (as shown on page 17 of th e March issue of Vintage Airplane) Th ese vents feed into a chamber inside the inboard rib bay This chamber is not sealed very well so forced air spills out into the wing as well as into the cabin Taking care to seal this chamshyber can eliminate some problems with fabric on the inboard portion of th e wing and will provide more fresh air in the cabin
I hope this will contribute to the
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After we compiled with AD 2000shy25-02 the Champ looked a bit more shop-worn so we gave it a new name
available from the type club for your particular model
Dont blindly follow the lead of someone who may have restored the airplane in the past-they ma y have missed something that is required How many times have you seen a poorly placed inspection hole only to hear II But that was the way it was inshystalled on the airplane when I got it I Only the factory drawings and any supplemental type certifishy
cates (STC) or other approved modifications can change the aircrafts legal configushyration and the method of fabric installation is part of that configushyration
As both HG and I have pOinted out in the past the covering supshypliers have specific instructions on how their covering methods are to be installed Since covering with the Poly-Fiber Cooper Superflight Ai r-Tech or other processes were not included in the type certificate for the airplanes that we were dealshying with here an STC for their installation was obtained by the resp ective companies If their method is not followed you run the risk of having the covering job re jected by an IA (AampP with inshyspection authorization) mechanic andor the FAA for not conformshying to the STC If an STCd part is installed on an aircraft and the methods spelled out in the STC are not followed the aircraft is unshyairworthy Un-airworthy aircraft dont have very good resale values and besides you can t fly them And thats the point of all of this right Let s get out there do it right and fly safely
Over to you f( ~t(d ~
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BACK COVER Fay Gillis Summer 29 is the title of Frank Warrens acrylic painting awardshyed an Excellence ribbon in the 2001 EAA Sport Aviation Art competition It depicts a young Fay beside a Curtiss Fledgling at Garden City Long Island in August 1929 A month later she was forced to bailout of a Fledgling becoming the second female memshyber of the Caterpillar Club Fay was a charshyter member of the 99sFrank Warren can be reached at fljlwearthlinknet or by calling 805967-5473
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Tom wrote Over the last eight years a tremendous volume of work-by both the government and the private sector-has gone into moving this complex regulatory package to its current status We reshyquest that you keep the same level of emphasis on completing the final steps to publication by facilitating every opportunity for expeditious handling by the Office of Manageshyment and Budget
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During EAA AirVenture Oshkosh the Vintage Aircraft Association and EAAs Government Services office hosted a meeting with the FAAs Mike Gallagher and Tom McSweeney (right) along with most of the type club representatives who attended the Convention Aging airshycraft issues were the primary topics of discussion In particular the thorny issues concerning the release of technical information by type certificate holders and especially the disposition of that same information related to long dormant type certificates was discussed As pointed out by Gallagher the FAA cannot legally release information unless the type certificate has been surrendered
Also discussed was the ongoing process of Airworthiness Concern Sheets (ACS) and the general consensus was that the program is working well to head off potential Airworthiness Directives Both Gallagher and McSweeney pointed out that only half of the ACS issued during 2001 had become Airworthiness Directives In previous years they all would have become ADs
An ACS issued on the spring steel main landing gear installed on older Cessnas was the subject of another meeting hosted by EAAs Government Programs specialist Randy Hansen and the Cessna Pilots Association President John Frank The meeting was intended to gather firsthand information about any difficulties being experienced with the gear by owneroperashytors It was their opinion that the difficulties highlighted by the FAAs sheet were the result of operations outside of what was considered normal and that the issue could be properly dealt with by adherence to a Cessna service bulletin EAA and the Cessna Pilots Association used input from that meeting to help formulate the response to the ACS
garding increased safety and imshyproved economy of recreational aviation (You can read Toms letters on the EAA sport pilot website at wwwsportpiotorg)
The proposed sport pilot rule has the potential to impact many vintage airshyplane owneroperators who may be able to operate their aircraft under a new set of rules For more detailed inshyfonnation you can read Sport Pilot For the Vintage Airman in the June issue of Vintage Airplane or you can read it online at wwwvintageaircra(torg
Volunteers make the world of EAA and VAA happen and one of this years enhancements to the vintage area was the installation of a new windsock frame and sock Behind the scenes in EAAs workshops a number of volunteers spend their summers helping us spruce up the place and Barb Lowell was kind enough to sew up the new bright red windsock featured in the August issue Barb and her husband John have been coming to EAA to volunteer for more than eight years They hail from Bulverde Texas After their arrival in May Barb and her fellow volunteers in the sewing room repair the flags and banners that decorate the EAA grounds and sewing replacement wind socks Later (n the summer they help decorate the EAA grounds by planting thousands of flowers on the convention grounds Our thanks to Barb and the many others who spend their summers helping us here at EAA and VAA
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Your article on markings is very good and needed I might add We run into these issues all the time Mostly with FAA inspectors oddly enough who dont run into anshytiques all that often I thought Id highlight a couple of points that may also be worthy of mention
Many owners confuse the use of the c or R or X on their airshyplanes with use on the registrations or other permanent records such as 337s The regulation refers to disshyplay on the aircraft but no other use And the FAA continues to use the common N number without the additional letter on all documents Sometimes a registration will pass with the extra letter but usually they will request that it be drafted without
Note paragraph 4522(b) the part that says may be operated without displaying marks in accordance with paragraphs 4521 and 4523 through 4533 if (then it goes on to detail the display of the C R X L etc) What this means is if the aircraft is experimental for instance the 2-inch high (or more) EXPERIshyMENTAL placard need not be displayed This is the one the inshyspectors always miss They go right for the cabin entry or passenger cockpit and look for the EXPERIshyMENTAL billboard Not having to put this on the airplane is a real plus for an owner with an aircraft that has the same external configurashy
tion as an aircraft built at least 30 years ago in other words a replica
Hope this is helpful Im probably preaching to the choir here as you always publish inSightful comment on the FARs
Roy Redman (VAA 777) Faribault Minnesota
I have just finished reading Vinshytage Aircraft Markings and would like to make this comment The FAA is not judging our airplanes I have judged EAA aircraft at our local flyshyins for more than a decade although not at Oshkosh All of the informashytion I have or have seen concerning judging stresses authenticity Over the years I have rebuilt several airshycraft that are now antiques It distresses me greatly to see a beautishyfully restored aircraft and then have the restorer take a shortcut and put on modern numbers This is not authentic as the aircraft did not come out of the factory this way If I inspect the airplane you can be sure that I will go over it minutely and nitpick I would suggest that in fushyture gUidelines to judges that authenticity be again stressed I wouldnt go so far as to require Grade A cotton although this of course is what was probably origishynally used
John Beebe (VAA 19313) White Stone Virginia
During the judging process all markshyings on the aircraft both the registration numbers and smaller placshyards and decals are judged on their authenticity The guidelines published for use by EAAVAA judges stress that concept Heres what the guidelines have to say
I FORWARD Throughout these standards
will be found the one concept that reshyflects the opinion of the majority of those individuals contacted during the development of these guidelines That concept is authenticity The standards are constructed to encourage the indishyvidual to complete and maintain a factory fresh aircraft If the individshyuals desire is to deviate from this goal for personal whim or other reasons the cost ofnot conforming to pure aushythenticity is known in advance A portion of the guidelines pertain[s] to the documentation of authenticity as it relates to the aircraft The exhibitor is encouraged to prove the authenticity with pictures letters factory specificashytions or any of the means which will alleviate the need for judges opinion in determining authenticity
For the complete text ofEAA s Judgshying Standards manual you can buy a copy by calling EAA Membership Sershyvices at 800843-3612 or you can view the pages on EAA s website at wwwairventureorg 200ljudging -HG Frautschy
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AMIR Originally published in the September 1924 issue of The Wide World Magazine
BY JAM~S WHITTAH~R
ILLUSTRAT~D BY FE HIL~Y
On February 17th last at Ellington Field Houston Texas Gates Flying Circus
a well-known American company of stunt flyers was giving an exhibishytion for the benefit of the Thirty-sixth Division Air Service of the American Army One of the scheduled items was a daring parashychute descent by a y~)Ung chorus girl Rosalie Gordon It was not the first time she had essayed the feat having worked with the Gates Circus on the Pacific coast the previous year
Dressed in a white satin pilots uniform with little red buttons she ascended in a plane driven by Clyde Pangborn one of the Circus finest pilots Behind her in the rear cockpit sat Milton Girton who was to assist her in her preparations for the leap
It had rained in the morning the sky was full of low-lying clouds and at two thousand feet it was decided that she should make her leap The parachute was in a container tied to the landing gear of the plane with a short rope another rope connected the parachute with the girl who stepped coolly out onto the wing inshy
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spected the harness about her waist to see that it was properly adjusted and then jumped off into space
For a dozen feet or so she dropped headlong momentarily expecting the canopy of the parachute to open as usual and check her swift descent Instead she suddenly felt a terrific jerk and found that she was hanging suspended underneath the aeroshyplane trailing after it at the end of the ropes attached to the harness about her waist Her light weight was not enough to spring the trap of the parachute and a ring at the edge of the canvas canopy to which one of
the supporting ropes was attached had caught on a rod projecting from the landing gear From this fixture Miss Gordon now swung helplessly above the heads of the crowd
It was a fearful predicament Unshyable to crawl back or to free the parachute it seemed that certain death awaited the poor girl As long as the petrol lasted she was comparshyatively safe-unless she became detached and the parachute still failed to open-but once the plane was forced to land she would inshyeVitably be dragged to death beneath it Unless she could somehow be got
back onto the plane nothing could save her
Below the crowd of five thousand people looked on for a while uncomshyprehendingly To them it was at present all part of the show but the personnel of the Circus and the other practical aviators on the ground realshyized only too well the tragedy that was threatening Orders rang out sharp and decisive and half-a-dozen planes took to the air circling vainly about the swinging girl in an atshytempt to solve the problem The onlookers began to understand that something was seriously amiss Planes of the type used-this one was equipped with a 180 hp Hisso motor-land at express speed Thirty miles an hour is the minimum which meant that Rosalie would be dashed to pieces and her body manshygled beneath the tailskid directly as the machine came down As it was the anxious Pangborn having swooped earthwards to let those beshylow see her predicament the helpless girl hung perilously near the rough ground
Plane after plane with men lying out along the wing surfaces knife in hand hoping to cut her loose if posshysible swept past Pangborns machine risking imminent collision All of them however failed as did the frantic efforts of Girton himself who crawled out onto the landing gear and for half an hour battled desshyperately to pull the girl up to a perch on the axle and comparative safety But a previous hour of daredevil stunts had weakened him and he found his strength insufficient for the task
Then it was that Thompson one of the would-be rescuers swooped ground wards with his plane Someshything white fluttered from his machine as he rose again with a roar An official picked the object up-a piece of cardboard on which was the scribbled message Send Freddy up with a rope Will pick him up He can help pull her Up
It was cryptic enough to the uninishytiated but those who knew realized
INSTINCTIV~LY
PANGBORN AND
THOMPSON R~AD
WHAT WAS IN ON~
ANOTH~RS MINDS AND
SOON TH~ TWO
MACHIN~S W~R~
SAILING SID~-BY-SID[
WING ALMOST
TOUCHING WING
that one of the most daring feats ever attempted was to be put into operation to save the apparently doomed girl
Presently Thompson came to earth and into his plane climbed Freddy Lund a former member of the Circus but now in commercial life Up toward Pangborns machine with that helpless figure dangling beshyneath it Thompsons aeroplane shot until it was flying close below Lund climbing out on the upper wing reached frantically up in an effort to grasp Rosalies feet in the hope that their combined weight would release the catch of the parachute and let them both down to safety But the bumpy rise and fall of the planes made the maneuver impossible and it was speedily evident that another and even more desperate method would have to be tried if the girl was to be saved
Instinctively Pangborn and Thompson read what was in one anshyothers minds and soon the two machines were sailing side-by-side wing almost touching wing Then Lund swung himself down a stage lower and the crowd below gasped Hundreds of binoculars showed what was to be attempted and men and women sank on their knees and prayed openly that the fearless men aloft might be able to carry out their purpose
Just when it seemed that the two machines must become locked in a death grip which would send both of them hurtling to destruction Lund stretched out a hand grasped a strut on Pangborns plane and leapt across the gulf For an instant he swayed slid almost fell and then a great shout went up Hes done it Hes done it
It was a wonderful effort Usually this change from plane to plane pershyilous enough at the best of times is only attempted with nonskid strips on the wings and rubber shoes on the feet of the aviator Lund made it with slippery leather-soled boots on wings like shining glass
Only he knew how near he was to failure as a matter of fact his feet slid away beneath him but he clung to the strut with all his strength and so saved himself A white-faced man down below dropped his field glasses and gasped
Its a miracle he said solemnly But the rescue was far from being
accomplished yet Recovering himshyself Lund scrambled into the cockpit and then out of that and down onto the landing gear where Girton was still continuing his vain efforts to haul the girl up Together they heaved and strained at the rope but it was quickly seen from below that their combined efforts were inshysufficient and a groan broke from the crowd when Lund was seen laboshyriously climbing back into the cockpit
Theyve failed Theyve failed The cry went up
It certainly seemed so and matshyters looked grave for the anxious officials of the Circus knew that the sands of time were fast running out in another direction The petrol supshyply carried by the plane was limited Once it was exhausted and landing was imperative in which case nothshying could save the girl if she remained in her present position Many of the offiCials in fact were convinced that she was as good as dead already
Not so Pangborn and Lund how-
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After the ordeal Rosalie Gordon is seen in the centre with Lund who rescued her on the right The two other aviators are Pangborn and Thompson
came to earth in perfect fashion The onlookers released from the
restraint of their pent-up emotions at once surged wildly forward on to the ground but mounted attendants and armed police drove them back and an ambulance came dashing up with screeching horn
From underneath the plane crawled three disheveled but almost unhurt figures The two aviators had taken the slight shock of a perfect landing on their broad backs and they rose to their feet stiffly specks of blood on their faces and wrists from cuts caused by the rope from which Rosalie Gordon had been susshypended Daredevil flyers though they were both they and Pangborn showed the strain of the last halfshyhour All of them were white-faced and trembling
I was afraid the petrol would give out said Pangborn I kept circling over a little lake out there I thought that if we were forced to land it would be better than the ground
He walked over and measured the spirit in his tank and his face was eloquent He had just three minutes supply left
At first the little actress laughed hysterically but when a friend Esshyther Gray rushed up to her and embraced her she broke down and cried
So ended one of the biggest thrills and one of the finest exhibitions of heroism in the history of aviation Few flying men possess sufficient skill to carry out the work of the resshycue accomplished by Pangborn Lund and Girton-fewer still pershyhaps would have had the courage to attempt it
Seven years later Clyde Pangborn would be world famous for being the pilot on the first nonstop crossshying of the Pacific but in 1924 his cool head helped save a young lady parachutist from certain death
ever A few shouted words between them and then Lund took over the controls while Pangborn descended the frail under-rigging supports and joined the indefatigable Girton on the landing gear
Pangborn was slight of build but marvelously strong an open-air life and constant exercise had given him sinews of steel Crooking one leg over the axle and hanging on with one hand he slipped the other foot down and got a toehold under the girls belt Immediately she clasped him round the leg and with Girton carrying out a similar maneuver she was slowly raised until both men could reach her with their free hands A mighty heave and they hauled her into comparative safety on the axle-a wooden crosspiece three inches wide between the landshying wheels One says comparative safety advisedly There was little more than three feet of clearance beshytween the axle and the base of the plane and it was still a tossup whether through the give of the springs in landing anyone on the axle would not be crushed It was a risk that had to be taken however
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for nothing more could be done Once more Pangborn changed
places with Lund while Miss Gorshydon clung to the axle in a half-fainting condition Considering the fearful mental strain she had unshydergone her demeanor had been admirable she had followed the mens attempts to rescue her coolly and intelligently and had done everything she could to help them It was no wonder that the reaction was now making itself felt
Unfamiliar as he was with the controls of the plane Lund preferred the more dangerous job of holding Miss Gordon on the landing gear to the task of attempting to land So (swarming down) he took his placed beside her while the pilot dropped earthward in slow wide circles
The management fearing an accishydent when the landing was made sent a motorcar out onto the field in case the three people clinging to the gear might prefer to try and drop into it as it ran along under the plane Pangborn however perhaps wisely preferred the risks of a regushylar landing and in a final long swoop he swept over the grass and
MOST AVIATORS VIVIDLY REMEMBER
THEIR FIRST AIRPLANE RIDE AND CHERISH
THAT FOND MEMORY
AND THOSE OF US WHO HAVE BEEN
FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO OWN OUR OWN
AIRPLANE REMEMBER THAT IN VIVID
DETAIL AS WELL By Ev CASSAGNERES
We remember how we found it and the details of that first step in our aviation
life Perhaps that purchase was made under unique circumstances not simply by writing a check You may find the story of my first airplane similar to yours you may find it just plain interesting or you may be startshying that search
This story begins shortly after Aushygust 141945 V] Day the end of World War II On September 27 that same year I applied for and was hired as a line boy for Reynolds Flying Service at the New Haven Municipal Airport near New Haven Connecticut
I was in high school (Hillhouse High) at that time and would ride my
bull Irs
bicycle to school every day rain snow or shine Then to get to work after school I rode it to the airport I did all the dirty work sweeping out the hangar and shop gassing and oilshying airplanes and washing and hand-propping airplanes when necesshysary Some were as big as Pratt amp Whitney R-985s I also helped out in the shop with repairs rib stitching and doping
Later that month I was on a bus ridshying from New Haven to my home in Westville a suburb of New Haven As we headed out Edgewood Avenue I happened to look out the window on the right side and nearly went nuts with excitement at what I saw It was in the yard of the Acme Auto Top Company
As soon as I got home I jumped onto my bicycle and rode back to see that airplane at Acme When [ met the owner Steve he said he wanted to sell it for $80 He showed me the wings tail surfaces and prop which were inshyside the building
The airplane was a 1929 Comshymand-Aire 3C-3T serial number 614 registration number NC901E It had a Curtiss OX-5 engine serial number 2116
The wings had silver fabric the
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fuselage was red and the tail surshyfaces were silver I was absolutely thrilled to just touch it I was only 17 years old and wondered how in the world I would ever come up with $80 for the airplane It was beautiful even though it most likely needed a complete rebuild to airshyworthy condition As partial payment for my work as a line boy I had been taking dual instruction in a Piper J-3C65 I wondered if I could even fly this airplane
At about this time I was also getshyting into serious bicycle racing through my friend Phil Kittredge who was already the Connecticut State Junior Champion He was not a pilot but agreed to be a partner in this endeavor Between us we came up with $15 as a down payment which we gave to Steve with a promise to get the rest as soon as we could
I went to work setting pins in loshycal bowling alleys and did some caddying at Yale Golf Course near where I lived both good jobs for a teenager at that time Phil and I
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These two shots are from the collection of Shelby Hagberg and are of the very ship forshymerly owned by then 17-yearshyold Ev Cassagneres Its a 1929 Command-Aire 3C-3T NC901 E serial number 614 Taken at Curtiss Field on Long Island New York The airplane was painted with silver wings and horizontal tail surface and a red fuselage and rudder
could not seem to raise enough cash to satisfy the airplane owner so we lost out on the deal and he kept the 15 bucks Of course we were devastated
In the meantime a local affluent gentleman who also collected anshytique automobiles managed to purchase the Command-Aire He had it moved out in the country in the town of Bethany It sat there out in a field with the wings laid out in the grass of an open field deterioratshying in the elements Occasionally I would cycle out there to look at it touch it and dream or fantasize
On January 21 1946 the new owner who knew who I was and that I was interested in the airplane called me and asked if I was still inshyterested He said he would sell it on a trade basis Needless to say I would come up with something
I happened to have a French-built Automoto bicycle that I was quite fond of but would be willing to part with It was worth about $80 so we did an even swap Now I had to find a place to put it and figure out a way
to get it home about 5 miles My friend Phil came to the rescue
again You see my own parents never did own a car or have drivers licenses Phil had the use of his fashythers 1937 Plymouth four-door car So we tied the tailskid in the trunk with clothesline rope and put the wings on the roof secured with ropes tied all over the place
We started out to drive the 5 miles to my house in Westville Well two young sporty guys couldshynt just go straight there and that would be that could they We realshyized that the local high school was due out at 230 in the afternoon So we just happened to detour with all of this interesting cargo over some hills to the school and we got there just as the students were getshyting out Many we knew and of course we directed our attention mainly to the girls So whats the story they would ask and that was all we needed We ahem had just flown down from some exotic place in northern Canada and planned on rebuilding the airplane for some other exotic adventure It was amazshying how convincing we could be and how gullible they were We did all of this while wearing an old pair of gogshygles and a helmet and with mischievous faces they still believed us so we let it go at that We laughed all the way home
The airplane sat in my backyard the rest of the winter as I worked on it although I really did not know what I was doing I did get the enshygine running a couple of times The sound and smell was exciting like a concert orchestra to me My parents gave me a lot of encouragement and enjoyed my project
However my enthusiasm and fanshytasy of flight were not to last very long We lived on the third floor of a three-family house and the landlord was not at all happy over this kid having an airplane in the backyard of our neighborhood So it had to go What to do We did not own a car so no garage was available and I could not find any other suitable
This shot taken at Curtiss Field as well clearly shows the split-axle landing gear and Fokker Dvll-styled wing center section as designed by famed aero engineer Albert Voellmecke
place for it So the bottom line was simple-I had to sell it And I never even took a picture of it nor did any of the neighbors
A schoolmate of mine by the name of Billy Gilbert also a stushydent pilot showed some interest and he lived in the town of Bethany That town had a grass runway airport and it was one of the oldest airports in New Engshyland where supposedly American Airlines got started Famous aviashytors had flown out of there names such as Bert Acosta Clarence Chamberlin Guss Graff Jack Tweed Franklin T Hank Kurt Bob Noorduyn (Norseman) and Batch Pond (Pond Creams) (The Bethany airport managed to stay in existence until the early 1980s)
On May 291946 Billy Gilbert came to the house with a farm rack truck and $30 loaded up the airshyplane and drove away That was the last time I saw it as r stood there and cried However I had hidden the propeller in our basement and still
have it as a memento in addition to a section of wing fabric with the black number NC901E on it
So what became of that old airshyplane Billy wen t into the Navy and his parents eventually sold the ship to a local junk and scrap dealer who was mainly interested in the OX engine That was the end of it I searched many years later but it was gone
Years later I came across many Command-Aire photographs and the ones shown with this article are all I have of that fond memory
Sometime after that I owned a 1941 Waco UPF-7 which I made my first dollar with by towing signs allover the place out of the Bethany airport and then a 1936 Ryan ST and now I have a 1953 Cessna 170B which I fly often (my first closed-in type)
Sometimes for old times sake r will fly the 170 with helmet and goggles and white scarf and the winshydows open See one never loses the thrill of real flight
In closing I can say that if one wants to fly bad enough one will find a way It is a healthy disease that can be most appreciated as you feel the wind in your face up in the air over our beautiful countryside
What else do I do now for fun My new book The Untold Story of The Spirit Of St Louis will be out next year 2002 the 75th annivershysary of Lindberghs epic flight This book has been a labor of love for decades and it will be published by Historic Aviation Books
When that is done I plan to write the history of Command-Aire and also some Connecticut aviation hisshytory In particular Im going to document the stories of the Cairns airplane the Kimball Beetle sevenshycylinder aircraft radial engine the Scorpion aircraft engine the Bristol gliders that were manufactured on Edgewood Avenue near the Acme Auto Top Company (see story) and the Bourdon- and Viking-built Kitty Hawk airplanes
After that I may retire
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TYPE CLUB
Some Thoughts on Restoration and Airworthiness Originally appeared in Waco World News Vol I No 36 MaylJune 2001
by Robert G Lock
Restoring an airplane is a lot like flying-hours and hours of someshytimes boring work separated by a few moments of stark terror As one approaches the end of a restoration project there comes a time for certishyfication by the FAA unless the airplane has a permanent airworthishyness certificate Receiving that all-important permanent standard airworthiness certificate is the final objective This article will give some background on past certification procedures especially for airplanes that go back to the beginning of government rules and regulations
Governments entry into aviashytion essentially began with the creation of the Aeronautics Branch of the Department of Commerce Near the top of the agenda of the new bureaucracy was the certificatshying of airplanes pilots and eventually mechanics Approved type certificates (ATC) began in March 1927 and continue to this day Registration numbers were reshyquired and were painted on the wings and tail The Roman capital letter N denoting registration in the United States followed by the letter C for commercial X for
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experimental R for restricted and L for limited were adopted Design requirements needed for an ATC were contained in Aeronautics Bulletin 7 later 7A ATCs were numshybered sequentia lly beginning with 1 and ending with 817 (a new ATC numbering system was introduced after number 817) The certificating of pilots and later mechanics closely followed as the government tried to regulate the beginning of the aviation industry
Obtaining an ATC to manufacshyture and sell an airplane was costly even in the early days Group 2 apshyprovals were awarded to a person or company when only a limited numshyber of aircraft were to be built either as a new design or as a modification of an existing airplane being manushyfactured under an ATe The Group 2 approvals were cheaper and easier to obtain but design and manufacshyture were equiva lent to approved type cert ificates
An important item to remember is that if an airplane was designed to Aeronautics Bulletin 7 or 7A it still must meet those requirements toshyday So for some restorers a copy of this manual is helpful
Another bit of information critishycal to certification is that there were no permanent airworthiness certifishycates in the old days A representative of the government re -certificated the airplane annushyally and a new airworthiness certificate was issued The papershywork f i le in Washington DC became immense There was a file folder for each registered aircraft and all hard copy paperwork was meticulously maintained Even telegrams were retained
Each file folder was a complete diary of the airplane from owners to inspections and repairs Some of this data is available today on mishycrofiche For most all aircraft the original hard copy files have been placed on microfiche and then the hard copy fi les were destroyed I have seen original files that are still stored in Suitland Maryland Most of those files are not on microfiche
ATC data is also known as type design data Type design data can be found in the Aircraft Listing Enshygine Listing and Prope ll er Listing (for fewer than SO airp lanes regisshytered) and in the Aircraft Engine and Propeller Specification Sheets
for the middle-aged aircraft For airplanes of this vintage this
is the only source of data for the reshystorer If youre really lucky there may be copies of original factory drawings available as a valuable supplement However most of the factory drawings for many antique aircraft have been destroyed Fortushynately for Waco restorers factory drawings are available Drawings are invaluable when restoring old airplanes I searched for the Comshymand-Aire drawings but determined that they had all been destroyed However in my search I did locate some valuable type deshysign data from a most unusual source which might be fuel for anshyother story
In the mid 1930s the aviation inshydustry continued to grow By an act of Congress the government creshyated the Civil Aeronautics Administration (CAA) The CAA took regulations created by the Aeronautics Branch of the Departshyment of Commerce and expanded its bureaucratic role in aviation It created Civil Aviation Regulations (CAR) and Civil Aviation Manuals (CAM) Requirements of approved type were now contained in the CARs CAR 3 was certification for small aircraft Also to appear was the mechanics bible CAM 18 which spelled out requirements for major repairs to aircraft This publishycation evolved into the present FAA Advisory Circulars AC4313-1B andshy2B which give data on major repairs and alterations
The annual re-certificating of airshycraft was still required and a new airworthiness certificate was given to the owner after the airplane was approved for return to service As the workload increased a new method of certificating was created DeSignated aircraft maintenance inshyspectors (DAM I) were selected to take over the re-certificating duties These were well-experienced airshy
craft and engine (AampE) mechanics that were hand selected by local CAA maintenance inspectors The airworthiness certificate was still isshysued every year but in the mid-1950s about the time that the Federal Aviation Agency (FAA) came to power things began to change for airworthiness certificates They became permanent The aircraft could be re-certificated every year by a DAMI and later by an FAA airshyframe and powerplant (AampP) mechanic who holds an inspection authorization (IA) So today the AampP with IA can return to service annual inspections many major reshypairs and some major alterations
Congress created the Federal Avishyation Agency in 1958 Soon after the word II Agency was dropped in favor of II Administration And government control and bureaushycracy continued to grow ever larger
While we are on the subject of the FAA perhaps an easy method to distinguish differences between mashyjor repairs and major alterations is to apply the following
If the repair returns the aircraft to its original type certificate afshyfects airworthiness and cannot be done using elementary techniques then it is a major repair
If the repair (or modification) alshyters conformity to the original type design data then it is a major alteration
If an AampP mechanic cannot apshyprove a major repair or major alteration then a field approval by an FAA maintenance inspector must be obtained Sometimes this is more complicated than can be imagined Maybe a future story on FAA field approvals would prove inshyteresting
If an aircraft has never had a pershymanent airworthiness certificate then one must be obtained Here again the FAA issues this certifishycate To obtain that treasured piece of paper you must fill out an applishy
cation and prove that the airplane conforms to its type certificate Sometimes this is very difficult Esshypecially if the original type design data is incomplete or missing I have seen file cabinets in FAA headshyquarters with drawers containing type design data Just like Joe Juptshyners US Civil Aircraft books each drawer had a folder with the ATC number on top Some of the folders contained data while some were empty When the folder was empty the FAA had no type design data other than data that was published in Aircraft Engine and Propeller Listing which is not very much
For the coveted permanent airshyworthiness certificate an FAA representative will conduct a conshyformity inspection The basis for the inspection could be one or more of the following FAA Airshycraft Engine and Propeller Listing or Specification Sheets microfiche of original aircraft records containshying airworthiness and registration data factory drawings (if available) and aircraft and engine operating limitations
In addition current weight and balance calculations with critical forward and aft loading (if reshyquired) a loading schedule (if required) and appropriate placardshying must be included A list of required optional and special equipment must accompany the weight and balance data And lastly FAA Form 337 (Major Repair amp Mashyjor Alteration) must be completed by the supervising AampPIA Aircraft and engine logbooks must have apshypropriate entries made and registration data must be shown After many months (or should I say years) of restoration work perhaps that small piece of paper that says PERMANENT AIRWORTHINESS CERTIFICATE-STANDARD is now in your hand Categories of the airshyworthiness certificate are NORMAL UTILITY and ACROBATIC
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Mike Sleineke
Yeah well just strip it and paint it
Shouldnt take more than a month Thats what Ronnie Cox and Greg Davis of Ft Lauderdale Florida said about their 1962 250 Comanche
Sound familiar That kind of comshyment is right up there with Well just clean up a few of the instrushyments or Gee wouldnt it look better with a new windshield
Not once in the history of vinshytage con tern porary airplanes has anyone
1 Removed just one part painted it and put it right back on without removing a bunch more first
2 Started to do just one restoration operation eg re-bush the landing gear and done only that one thing
3 Taken an engine off overhauled it and put it back on without redoshying everything in sight
4 Reupholstered just the front seats and stopped there
You get the picture Airplanes are a lot like tar babies and once you get
your fingers into them they generally suck you in right up to your navel and don t let you go until theres nothing left to do
Ronnie and Greg were both lookshying for a serious cross-country airplane they could use to run from Florida up to Ronnies summer house in the Michigan islands Ronnie had owned three Comanches in the past so that was his bird of choice For Greg it would be his first airplane ownership
Ronnie had a long history of airshyplane ownership and involvement because his dad was heavily involved in aircraft and used to fly him all over the country Plus he owned a long string of airplanes including a PT-19 and a bunch of Pipers including Tri-Pacers Pacers and such
Ronnie started flying while he was still based in Ohio in the 1960s
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The 2S0-hp six-cylinder Lycoming gives the Comanche Bonanza-rivaling speed (a cruise of 161 to 181 mph) and a useful load carrying capacity of up to 1200 pounds
Updated radios and a refurbished interior make the Comanche a comfortable cross-country speedster
and his wife and son learned to fly from the same CFI who taught both his father and him to fly
Cox an elecshytrical engineer by training had started his own enshygineering business years ago and even worked a Seneca II into it for corposhyrate transportation so by the time the 1962 Comanche entered thei r lives he had 5500 hours of flying time He recently sought a change in career and sold his business to fly for a comshymuter airline
Ronnie also had a business buildshying engines for drag racers that Greg said really helped because Ronshynie just has a feel for what has to be done to a machine mechanically to make it right
Cox enjoyed rebuilding airplanes almost from the beginning and his total restoration of a Cessna 140 won a Lindy Award as recognition that he was a hands-on kind of guy who farmed out as little of his airplane reshybuilding projects as possible However it was in looking for a little help while his son and he were reshybuilding his sons Cessna 120 (which also won a Lindy) that he met Greg Davis
We needed to have some alushyminum bent to make up a new spar doubler for the 120 Ronnie said and someone suggested we contact
this guy on the other side of the field Ronnie
laughed when he said this inshydicating something was coming We walked in with the original
doubler in our hand which was a litshytle crude and showed it to Greg This
was the first time Id laid eyes on him Ronnie said
He looked at the doubler threw it down and said No I cant make something like this I thought he was joking or something Then he said If I make it itll be better than that Greg can be a little cantankerous and Ronnie Cox laughed again
Greg Davis has run Davis Aircraft Services in Ft Lauderdale since 1985 and he specializes in doing structural repairs on corporate airplanes As such he has developed both the facilshyity and ability to do practically anything with sheet metal So beshytween Ronnies mechanical ability and Gregs feeling for sheet metal there was practically nothing they couldnt do to a little airplane
I had been part of an RV-4 buildshying project but got out of it because I was just too busy flying a friends Pitts S-2B Greg explained He said I could fly it as much as I wanted so I started competing and between that and work I didnt really have the time to own my own airplane
There was something about the chemistry between the two men that prompted them to want a cross-counshy
try airplane that could carry two guys 120 gallons of gas and our bagshygage Enter the Comanche
They ran into the airplane in Aushygust 1992 and it was a really sad example of the breed but the price was right and the sheet metal looked good Also it had no corrosion
Then they started comparing the logbooks to the actual airplane and found that someone had a fanciful imagination when it came to the defishynition of airworthiness directive (AD) compliance The Comanche has a bunch of fairly serious and expenshysive ADs Ronnie pointed out Over the years someone had been signing off the ADs but not doing them As they put it the airplane had about 25 years of pencil maintenance
We found a perfect example of how well this airplane was mainshytained when we replaced the tires One of the tubes was dated 1962 and had been on the airplane since it was built Greg said
The airplane had also been landed gear-up at some point in its career Again the previous keepers of the logs didnt see fit to mention this litshytle incident There were a bunch of scab patches on the belly we had to get rid of and we put new gear doors on it
Their approach to the sheet metal was simple If a panel needed a repair they would just replace the panel We re-skinned part of the turtledeck
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 17
WHAT OUR MEMBERS ARE RESTORING by HG Frautschy and Norm Petersen
AERONCA 7DC Sitting on the grass at Lee Bottom Airport near Louisville Kentucky Mark
and Wendie Paszkiewiczs (VAA 580997) 1946 Aeronca 7DC is ready for a flight in the warm hazy skies along the Ohio River First delivered as a 7 AC to a Phoenix Arizona flight school in 1946 with the installation of a Conshytinental 85-hp engine it became an Aeronca 7De Partially restored when they bought the project Mark and Wendie couldnt resist rebuilding some parts Now they fly the Champ around to local fly-ins and just have fun in it after work
CHAMPION 7GCB Posed in the afternoon sunshine of Sky
Harbor Airport in Duluth Minnesota is a beautiful 1962 Champion 7GCB N9912Y serial number 7GCB-133 mounted on an immaculate set of PKshy1800 floats Recently re-covered and painted by veteran mechanic Don Macor (VAA 28788) of Duluth Minnesota this particular aircraft is quite rare in that it has only 706 hours total time on airframe and engine has a factory original outside baggage compartment door and is one of only six 7GCBs remaining on the US Register In addition during its entire 39shyyear lifespan only one authorized inspectors name is in the aircraft logshybooks-Don Macor Don reports the airframe was in very good shape with only minor surface rust on a few places The covering is Ceconite 101 with bushytyrate dope in Daytona white Miami blue and black trim Note the seaplane auxiliary fins on the stabilizers necessary with the added mass of the floats ahead of the CG
Unusual to this model of 150 hp Champion is the outside baggage door on the right side of the fuselage seen here in the open position and ready for access to the baggage compartment
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because we removed the beacon It takes alshymost as long to patch the hole correctly as it does to replace the enshytire panel and then you dont have that ugly patch up there
The same thing held true for the cowlshying which they say is a weak point in a Coshymanche Building a new one consumed an enormous amount of time
Comanche control surfaces are reshyally thin mostly 016 and 020 so it doesnt take much to bend them up This airplane had apparently seen some hail that was heavy enough to dent the control surfaces but not the rest of the airplane so Greg said we re-skinned most of the control surfaces
Early in the project when the pair realized the airplane was going to take more than simply stripping and painting they decided on a specific goal We wanted to make it a truly modern airplane almost a new one so we could depend on it So we did everything but de-mate the wing We removed every single wire and sysshytem in the entire airplane and rebuilt every part of it according to Ronnie
When it came to the avionics Greg said it was really grungy It had Mark 12 radios in it and by the time we were done removing layers and layers of old wiring we took about SO pounds of wires out
Part of making it a modern airshyplane meant building reliability into everything ahead of the firewall We put a 260-hp exhaust system on it along with a lightweight starter new mags and most important we put a new fuel pump on it and had it flowshychecked Weve had some really tragic accidents in the Comanche community because the fuel pump was working but it wasnt putting out enough to feed the engine at takeoff power
According to the pair the landing
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gear is another area that needs careful examination because it wears out quickly We pulled every bushing and part of the gear and found that much of it was really sloppy This makes it hard to rig and contributes to gear collapses We dont know the history to our airplanes accident but that could have played a part
Naturally everything in the inteshyrior was replaced including a new panel with modern everything and they installed shoulder harnesses at the same time To keep their passenshygers happy they installed a small TV set with a VCR in the back seat They also installed a 14-inch thick big windshield and routed the edges down so it would fit flush into the original mounting channels
It took five years to get the airshyplane ready to fly and then it took another three months to get the pashyperwork completed We filed eight 337s and one field approval Because I do so many similar things with the corporate aircraft I just approached this one the same way Greg Davis said I filed them all through a DER (deSignated engineering representashytive) but rather than doing them locally I invited the FAA to come up and take a look at the airplane
They are obviously proud of the FAAs reaction to the way they apshyproached their project II After they came up the first time they brought another group of guys up to take a look at it They told us they wanted everyone in their office to see this beshy
cause this is the way they like to see an airshyplane and the supshyporting paperwork done Seems like theres a lesson for the rest of us in there somewhere
Ronnie Cox said The Comanche is a great airplane but like all airplanes if it needs extensive work it can be really expensive if you dont do it yourshyself Theres an old
saying about Piper products Made by farmers for farmers and its true The airplane is really easy to work on but the best thing you can do is make sure you get a good airplane in the first place
Cox has a number of pOints that he said every wannabe Comanche owner should satisfy before he or she buys a particular airplane Besides the normal over-all condition stuff that affects every airplane there are some specifics which include
bull AD list and compliance-Undershystand what airworthiness directives affect the airplane and make sure they were actually done
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bull Gear-up damage-Gear-up landshyings often crush the structure that the gear motor is attached to Make sure it was repaired properly
bull Flap track condition-The flap tracks wear and need to be carefully checked
bull Flap motor-The flap actuation system and especially the motor have to be checked for condition
The CoxDavis Comanche has more than 200 hours on it now and its owners (or should they be called creators) say it does exactly what they wanted it to do It lets them go long distances in comfort and they have the peace of mind that comes from knowing everything within that airplane was done right
CHAMPION 7ED7FC Ownerpilot Mike Foote (VAA 365457) wrote to us concerning his terrific restoration IIManufactured by Champion Aircraft in 1959 N8539E began life as a Tri-Champ In 1983 it was convelted to a taidragshy
gerl but only 12 short flight hours later life changed dramatically for N8539E when it was severely damaged in a windstorm The ownerls initial impression was that it would never fly again The remains went through several owners each intent upon restorationl but finding the task a daunting onel each chose instead to pass it along to someone else with more ambition My tum came in July of1995 After 15 months ofintense restoration efforts N8539E became a plane again on October 261 1996 1 flew the plane from my home base in Olathel Kansas to Oshkosh in 1997 and had it judged in the Contemporary category My efforts were rewardedl as the Champion was selected as the Outstanding Champion aircraft for that year It is still going strong and is just as satisfying to fly today as it was for the first time II
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Chet Peek (VAA 13458) author of terrific books such as The First Cub and Resurrection ofa Jenny has gotshyten back into flying after losing his airplanes and Norman Oklahoma hangar during a tornado in 1998 Chefs bought Bruce Bixlers Taylorshycraft DC-65 This DC-65 is one of the rare early Taylorcraft Tandems which had aluminum spars and ribs A few in the same series became the first Taylorcraft L-2 liaison airplanes Chefs airplane is finished in the Civilian Training Programs colors of blue and yellow
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September Mystery Plane
by HG Frautschy
This months Mystery Plane is a rare metal plane from the collection of Pete Bowers
Send your answer to EAA Vinshytage Airp lane PO Box 3086 Oshkosh WI 54903-3086 Your anshyswer needs to be in no later than October 15 for inclusion in the Deshycember issue of Vintage Airplane
You can also send your response via e-m ail Send your answer to vintageeaaorg
Be sure to include both your name and address (especially your city and state) in the body of your not e and put (Month) Mystery Plane in the subject line
Plenty of you knew the June Mysshytery Plane surely one of those Don t you wish there was just one of th ese left kind of airplanes Heres our first letter
The Mystery Plane in the June 2001 edition of Vintage Airplane is an Ireshyland N-2 Neptune
Ireland N-2 Nep
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G Sumner Ireland had been an engineer for Curtiss up to 1926 He later formed Ireland Aircraft Inc at Curshytiss Field Garden City and marketed th e Ireland Comet Meteor Privateer and Neptune Th e N-2B Neptune (circa 1927) was a four-pla ce amphibian powshyered by a 300-hp Wright J-6 while the N-2C Nepshytun e was a fiv e-place amphibian with a 450-hp PampWWasp
Thomas H Lymburn Princeton Minnesota
And more on the various models of the Neptune
The June Mystery Plane is the Amshyphibians Incorporated Model N-2B or N-2C with either PampW Wa sp engine or the Wright Whirlwind 300 in the five- or six-place amphibian Modificashytions from the Ireland A ircraft Inc Model ND5-ND6 include strut covers and increased bow angle on the tip floats and an extended main hull float behind the step The three views are from the Aircraft Yearbook 3- View
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Drawings 1903-1946 Russ Brown Lyndhurst Ohio
With Juptn ers U S Civil A ircraft this one didn t take long to idenshytify Vol 2 p ages 151-153 for ATC 153 des cribes th e Ireland Neptun e N-2B With enough clarity in th e photo to note the license as NC-88K its listed as L ____v
production number 43
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and had a 300-hp Wright J-6 engine (affirmed by the long rocker-box eavshyers) (Abo ut this time some models were being upgraded with a 450 PampW Wasp for the model N-2C-ATC 248)
Ive always been very appreciative of Joe Juptners good coverage of all the ATCd US aircraft Over the years Ive been building scale models of more obshyscure aircraft as a hobby Ive drawn many of my plans from photos and dishymensions in US Civil Aircraft In fact I have a plan I drew for the Nepshytune N-2C though Ive not built it yet Thats why I recognized the June Mysshytery plane was a Neptune I lived in Ecuador for about 45 years and made most of the models of jungle hardshywoods in 1 32 scale
Bub Borman Dallas Texas
Junes Mystery Plane was easy It is Irelands Neptune NC-89K shown on page 143 of us Civil Aircraft Vol 3
by Juptner Both pictures were probably taken the same day Note the man at left in both pictures same suit hat and tie Note the taped wire or tube on left wing forward strut
Excuse this old typewriter Im 81 and darned ifIll get a new one now
Good magazine good association good people Thanks
Albert B Aplin Chuluota Florida
Ju st a note to say I think the Jun e Mystery Plane is one of the Ireland Airshycraft Inc Neptune series
G Sumner Irelands ideas on flying boats pre-date this N-2C version by several years so the name was not new to aviation
Th e N-2C for the June issue was one of about nine built in late 1929 and the early 1930s
It was powered by a 450-hp Pratt amp Whitn ey Wasp and had a chromoly frame around which were bulkheads of duralumin to which were fastened
formers and then the outer aluminum skin
Hope this entry will serve to put me in the winners circle But then you always are when you join the V AA
John Kennelley Norwalk Iowa
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Feedback on Loose Fabric
Weve gotten plenty of comshyments about the article concerning bulging fabric While it wasnt part of my column originally many of you have addressed your comments to me so Ill check in on the freshyquency
Before we get to that Id like to update you on the status of our Champ airworthiness directive compliance It went fine as you may recall reading in my July colshyumn but a funny thing happened after flying a bit in the rain-the paint we sprayed over the patches has started to come off Dang Usshying MEK I thought Id completely removed the lemon-scented furnishyture polish I use regularly to clean the leading edges but I guess I was wrong The paint on the leading edges is beginning to peel HG and I wonder if they put any silishycone in the polish Doesnt say so on the can but maybe its a secret ingredient The peeling paint makes the new name (see photo on page 26) for the Champ even more accurate
Lets get on with the loose fabric discussion
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First loose fabric is a hazard for a couple of reasons Loose fabric can chafe against fairing strips and fasshyteners weakening it If a fabric edge is caught in the slipstream it can easily be torn away The results can be disastrous If it gets tangled up with a control surface it can even cause a loss of control and at the very least the loose wildly flapping fabric can be a huge distraction Heres what some others had to say I cant say I agree with everyones comments but it certainly is intershyesting to see how fabrics are being applied in shops around the world Heres our first note
You must have received a lot of comments about the Stinsons bulging fabric Ill give you my 2~ worth
Ive re-covered at least four during the past 45 years and dozens of reshycovering jobs on many types of aircraft Ive used cotton Irish linen Ceconite Razorback and Stits Im sticking with Ceconite 101 which [ like best I like the smell of dope beshysides all the other good features
When I tighten Ceconite I set my iron at 400degF to 450degF ] do the initial
tightening with a heat gun Then] work it with the iron evenly until] can feel the right tautness Thats just the right drumming sound and feel After the first coat ofprimer nishytrate dope there may be a few slack areas I then go over them again but never holding the iron in one place very long
Every Stinson I re-covered had screws on the four stringers on top of the fuselage from the windshield back about 3 or 4 feet spaced 3 or 4 inches apart ] just looked at three Stinsons on our flight line and they all have the screws
Don Macor Duluth Minnesota
Dons method might work well for him but Id hesitate to suggest it to anyone else In particular the use of a heat gun is prohibited in the Poly-Fiber and other process manuals that deal with the installashytion of Dacron fabric Uneven heat application is the reason it is disshycouraged Id also point out that the Cooper Superflight manual among others highlights the fact that Dacron fabric will start to m~lt
when heated above 450degF Thats why Don says he does not linger too long when shrinking the fabric with an iron set above 400degF
I just received my July issue of Vinshytage Airplane I always look forward to its arriva l That cover photo of the Stearman is beautiful Hats off to Jim Koepnick who does such a great job ofphotographing these old planes
I was drawn to the article on page 4 Is that Covering too Slack I have an uncovered Stinson 108-3 sitting in my garage so perhaps I can shed some light on some of the details about covshyering the Stinson 108 series In the article someone said Id be tempted to rib-stitch the fabric to the upper stringers on the fuselage Id suggest avoiding that temptation The Stinson used 4 PK screws to attach the fabric to the ribs and to the stringers above the fuselage I know because I have a coffee can with hundreds of these screws that I removed from my plane Above the fuselage there are four hatshysection aluminum stringers On my Stinson the fabric was attached to each of these stringers with 10 PK screws at 3-inch intervals beginning aft of the leading edge and running back just aft of the rear spar I believe thats how it was done originally I would not suggest rib-stitching beshycause the sharp edges of the hat-section stringers would cut the lacing And of course there is the matter of legality Rib-stitching would be a modification from the original construction certainly not appropriate in this situation
The photo on page 5 shows apparshyent ballooning of the fabric over the cabin area of the fuselage but theres more to this than meets the eye At the Stinson factory a blanket of fibershyglass insulation was installed above the cabin Old photos show this insushylation installed above the stringers I believe the fabric was then attached through the insulation to the stringers with the PK screws That puffy look above the cabin may be caused (at least in part) by the insulation Ive
We had a couple of folks ask if we could show a comparison shot highlighting loose fabric with the Stinson as an example In 1999 EAAs crack photo staff took air-to-air photos of a couple of Stinsons The top photo shows the fabric ballooning above the cabin In the lower photo the airplane restored by noted Stinson 108 rebuilder Butch Walsh of Arrington Virginia clearly shows the 4 PK (Parker-Kalon) screws that secure the fabric to the cabin roof stringers before the finishing tapes are applied
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discussion Im sure there are others out there who know more about this than I do Id enjoy hearing from anyshyone interes ted in Stinsons I have a website that I call Hangar 9 Aeroworks It features my project and other information on the 108-series Stinsons The URL is wwwhangar9 aeroworkscom
John Baker Damascus Maryland
Dip and HG were the first to agree with the members who wrote and called in to take them to ta sk for not confirming the exact method of attachment used by Stinson The intent of the original write-up was not to compos e a Stinson maintenance manual but to highlight the hazards inherent in any fabric job that is not propshyerly installed Our comments were meant to elicit a response from the membership in cluding expe rts like Butch Walsh Boy did they ever respond
Each of us is required to confirm the exact methods us ed by the manufacturer or subsequently apshyproved modifications and to scrupulously duplicate those methshyods The type certificate drawings and other information are often
seen Stinsons with the original type insulation that had the puffy look while sitting quietly on the ground
Dip Davis is correct that the Stinshyson did not originally cover the tanks on the 108s though Ive seen many restorations with the tanks covered There can be a bit of a problem with fabric tapes not adhering well to the perimeter of the tanks In fact I had a few tapes come loose once on a trip to EAA Chapter 643 s fl y-in at Pittstown New Jersey in 1993 A litshytle contact cem ent and some help from Chapter 643 got me back home okay Shortly after that I decided it was time for a complete re-cover job
Here s one more item about balshylooning fabric on the Stinson 108s that I learned from Stinson guru Butch Walsh The cabin fresh air intakes are on the leading edge of th e wing (as shown on page 17 of th e March issue of Vintage Airplane) Th ese vents feed into a chamber inside the inboard rib bay This chamber is not sealed very well so forced air spills out into the wing as well as into the cabin Taking care to seal this chamshyber can eliminate some problems with fabric on the inboard portion of th e wing and will provide more fresh air in the cabin
I hope this will contribute to the
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After we compiled with AD 2000shy25-02 the Champ looked a bit more shop-worn so we gave it a new name
available from the type club for your particular model
Dont blindly follow the lead of someone who may have restored the airplane in the past-they ma y have missed something that is required How many times have you seen a poorly placed inspection hole only to hear II But that was the way it was inshystalled on the airplane when I got it I Only the factory drawings and any supplemental type certifishy
cates (STC) or other approved modifications can change the aircrafts legal configushyration and the method of fabric installation is part of that configushyration
As both HG and I have pOinted out in the past the covering supshypliers have specific instructions on how their covering methods are to be installed Since covering with the Poly-Fiber Cooper Superflight Ai r-Tech or other processes were not included in the type certificate for the airplanes that we were dealshying with here an STC for their installation was obtained by the resp ective companies If their method is not followed you run the risk of having the covering job re jected by an IA (AampP with inshyspection authorization) mechanic andor the FAA for not conformshying to the STC If an STCd part is installed on an aircraft and the methods spelled out in the STC are not followed the aircraft is unshyairworthy Un-airworthy aircraft dont have very good resale values and besides you can t fly them And thats the point of all of this right Let s get out there do it right and fly safely
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Your article on markings is very good and needed I might add We run into these issues all the time Mostly with FAA inspectors oddly enough who dont run into anshytiques all that often I thought Id highlight a couple of points that may also be worthy of mention
Many owners confuse the use of the c or R or X on their airshyplanes with use on the registrations or other permanent records such as 337s The regulation refers to disshyplay on the aircraft but no other use And the FAA continues to use the common N number without the additional letter on all documents Sometimes a registration will pass with the extra letter but usually they will request that it be drafted without
Note paragraph 4522(b) the part that says may be operated without displaying marks in accordance with paragraphs 4521 and 4523 through 4533 if (then it goes on to detail the display of the C R X L etc) What this means is if the aircraft is experimental for instance the 2-inch high (or more) EXPERIshyMENTAL placard need not be displayed This is the one the inshyspectors always miss They go right for the cabin entry or passenger cockpit and look for the EXPERIshyMENTAL billboard Not having to put this on the airplane is a real plus for an owner with an aircraft that has the same external configurashy
tion as an aircraft built at least 30 years ago in other words a replica
Hope this is helpful Im probably preaching to the choir here as you always publish inSightful comment on the FARs
Roy Redman (VAA 777) Faribault Minnesota
I have just finished reading Vinshytage Aircraft Markings and would like to make this comment The FAA is not judging our airplanes I have judged EAA aircraft at our local flyshyins for more than a decade although not at Oshkosh All of the informashytion I have or have seen concerning judging stresses authenticity Over the years I have rebuilt several airshycraft that are now antiques It distresses me greatly to see a beautishyfully restored aircraft and then have the restorer take a shortcut and put on modern numbers This is not authentic as the aircraft did not come out of the factory this way If I inspect the airplane you can be sure that I will go over it minutely and nitpick I would suggest that in fushyture gUidelines to judges that authenticity be again stressed I wouldnt go so far as to require Grade A cotton although this of course is what was probably origishynally used
John Beebe (VAA 19313) White Stone Virginia
During the judging process all markshyings on the aircraft both the registration numbers and smaller placshyards and decals are judged on their authenticity The guidelines published for use by EAAVAA judges stress that concept Heres what the guidelines have to say
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will be found the one concept that reshyflects the opinion of the majority of those individuals contacted during the development of these guidelines That concept is authenticity The standards are constructed to encourage the indishyvidual to complete and maintain a factory fresh aircraft If the individshyuals desire is to deviate from this goal for personal whim or other reasons the cost ofnot conforming to pure aushythenticity is known in advance A portion of the guidelines pertain[s] to the documentation of authenticity as it relates to the aircraft The exhibitor is encouraged to prove the authenticity with pictures letters factory specificashytions or any of the means which will alleviate the need for judges opinion in determining authenticity
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AMIR Originally published in the September 1924 issue of The Wide World Magazine
BY JAM~S WHITTAH~R
ILLUSTRAT~D BY FE HIL~Y
On February 17th last at Ellington Field Houston Texas Gates Flying Circus
a well-known American company of stunt flyers was giving an exhibishytion for the benefit of the Thirty-sixth Division Air Service of the American Army One of the scheduled items was a daring parashychute descent by a y~)Ung chorus girl Rosalie Gordon It was not the first time she had essayed the feat having worked with the Gates Circus on the Pacific coast the previous year
Dressed in a white satin pilots uniform with little red buttons she ascended in a plane driven by Clyde Pangborn one of the Circus finest pilots Behind her in the rear cockpit sat Milton Girton who was to assist her in her preparations for the leap
It had rained in the morning the sky was full of low-lying clouds and at two thousand feet it was decided that she should make her leap The parachute was in a container tied to the landing gear of the plane with a short rope another rope connected the parachute with the girl who stepped coolly out onto the wing inshy
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spected the harness about her waist to see that it was properly adjusted and then jumped off into space
For a dozen feet or so she dropped headlong momentarily expecting the canopy of the parachute to open as usual and check her swift descent Instead she suddenly felt a terrific jerk and found that she was hanging suspended underneath the aeroshyplane trailing after it at the end of the ropes attached to the harness about her waist Her light weight was not enough to spring the trap of the parachute and a ring at the edge of the canvas canopy to which one of
the supporting ropes was attached had caught on a rod projecting from the landing gear From this fixture Miss Gordon now swung helplessly above the heads of the crowd
It was a fearful predicament Unshyable to crawl back or to free the parachute it seemed that certain death awaited the poor girl As long as the petrol lasted she was comparshyatively safe-unless she became detached and the parachute still failed to open-but once the plane was forced to land she would inshyeVitably be dragged to death beneath it Unless she could somehow be got
back onto the plane nothing could save her
Below the crowd of five thousand people looked on for a while uncomshyprehendingly To them it was at present all part of the show but the personnel of the Circus and the other practical aviators on the ground realshyized only too well the tragedy that was threatening Orders rang out sharp and decisive and half-a-dozen planes took to the air circling vainly about the swinging girl in an atshytempt to solve the problem The onlookers began to understand that something was seriously amiss Planes of the type used-this one was equipped with a 180 hp Hisso motor-land at express speed Thirty miles an hour is the minimum which meant that Rosalie would be dashed to pieces and her body manshygled beneath the tailskid directly as the machine came down As it was the anxious Pangborn having swooped earthwards to let those beshylow see her predicament the helpless girl hung perilously near the rough ground
Plane after plane with men lying out along the wing surfaces knife in hand hoping to cut her loose if posshysible swept past Pangborns machine risking imminent collision All of them however failed as did the frantic efforts of Girton himself who crawled out onto the landing gear and for half an hour battled desshyperately to pull the girl up to a perch on the axle and comparative safety But a previous hour of daredevil stunts had weakened him and he found his strength insufficient for the task
Then it was that Thompson one of the would-be rescuers swooped ground wards with his plane Someshything white fluttered from his machine as he rose again with a roar An official picked the object up-a piece of cardboard on which was the scribbled message Send Freddy up with a rope Will pick him up He can help pull her Up
It was cryptic enough to the uninishytiated but those who knew realized
INSTINCTIV~LY
PANGBORN AND
THOMPSON R~AD
WHAT WAS IN ON~
ANOTH~RS MINDS AND
SOON TH~ TWO
MACHIN~S W~R~
SAILING SID~-BY-SID[
WING ALMOST
TOUCHING WING
that one of the most daring feats ever attempted was to be put into operation to save the apparently doomed girl
Presently Thompson came to earth and into his plane climbed Freddy Lund a former member of the Circus but now in commercial life Up toward Pangborns machine with that helpless figure dangling beshyneath it Thompsons aeroplane shot until it was flying close below Lund climbing out on the upper wing reached frantically up in an effort to grasp Rosalies feet in the hope that their combined weight would release the catch of the parachute and let them both down to safety But the bumpy rise and fall of the planes made the maneuver impossible and it was speedily evident that another and even more desperate method would have to be tried if the girl was to be saved
Instinctively Pangborn and Thompson read what was in one anshyothers minds and soon the two machines were sailing side-by-side wing almost touching wing Then Lund swung himself down a stage lower and the crowd below gasped Hundreds of binoculars showed what was to be attempted and men and women sank on their knees and prayed openly that the fearless men aloft might be able to carry out their purpose
Just when it seemed that the two machines must become locked in a death grip which would send both of them hurtling to destruction Lund stretched out a hand grasped a strut on Pangborns plane and leapt across the gulf For an instant he swayed slid almost fell and then a great shout went up Hes done it Hes done it
It was a wonderful effort Usually this change from plane to plane pershyilous enough at the best of times is only attempted with nonskid strips on the wings and rubber shoes on the feet of the aviator Lund made it with slippery leather-soled boots on wings like shining glass
Only he knew how near he was to failure as a matter of fact his feet slid away beneath him but he clung to the strut with all his strength and so saved himself A white-faced man down below dropped his field glasses and gasped
Its a miracle he said solemnly But the rescue was far from being
accomplished yet Recovering himshyself Lund scrambled into the cockpit and then out of that and down onto the landing gear where Girton was still continuing his vain efforts to haul the girl up Together they heaved and strained at the rope but it was quickly seen from below that their combined efforts were inshysufficient and a groan broke from the crowd when Lund was seen laboshyriously climbing back into the cockpit
Theyve failed Theyve failed The cry went up
It certainly seemed so and matshyters looked grave for the anxious officials of the Circus knew that the sands of time were fast running out in another direction The petrol supshyply carried by the plane was limited Once it was exhausted and landing was imperative in which case nothshying could save the girl if she remained in her present position Many of the offiCials in fact were convinced that she was as good as dead already
Not so Pangborn and Lund how-
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After the ordeal Rosalie Gordon is seen in the centre with Lund who rescued her on the right The two other aviators are Pangborn and Thompson
came to earth in perfect fashion The onlookers released from the
restraint of their pent-up emotions at once surged wildly forward on to the ground but mounted attendants and armed police drove them back and an ambulance came dashing up with screeching horn
From underneath the plane crawled three disheveled but almost unhurt figures The two aviators had taken the slight shock of a perfect landing on their broad backs and they rose to their feet stiffly specks of blood on their faces and wrists from cuts caused by the rope from which Rosalie Gordon had been susshypended Daredevil flyers though they were both they and Pangborn showed the strain of the last halfshyhour All of them were white-faced and trembling
I was afraid the petrol would give out said Pangborn I kept circling over a little lake out there I thought that if we were forced to land it would be better than the ground
He walked over and measured the spirit in his tank and his face was eloquent He had just three minutes supply left
At first the little actress laughed hysterically but when a friend Esshyther Gray rushed up to her and embraced her she broke down and cried
So ended one of the biggest thrills and one of the finest exhibitions of heroism in the history of aviation Few flying men possess sufficient skill to carry out the work of the resshycue accomplished by Pangborn Lund and Girton-fewer still pershyhaps would have had the courage to attempt it
Seven years later Clyde Pangborn would be world famous for being the pilot on the first nonstop crossshying of the Pacific but in 1924 his cool head helped save a young lady parachutist from certain death
ever A few shouted words between them and then Lund took over the controls while Pangborn descended the frail under-rigging supports and joined the indefatigable Girton on the landing gear
Pangborn was slight of build but marvelously strong an open-air life and constant exercise had given him sinews of steel Crooking one leg over the axle and hanging on with one hand he slipped the other foot down and got a toehold under the girls belt Immediately she clasped him round the leg and with Girton carrying out a similar maneuver she was slowly raised until both men could reach her with their free hands A mighty heave and they hauled her into comparative safety on the axle-a wooden crosspiece three inches wide between the landshying wheels One says comparative safety advisedly There was little more than three feet of clearance beshytween the axle and the base of the plane and it was still a tossup whether through the give of the springs in landing anyone on the axle would not be crushed It was a risk that had to be taken however
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for nothing more could be done Once more Pangborn changed
places with Lund while Miss Gorshydon clung to the axle in a half-fainting condition Considering the fearful mental strain she had unshydergone her demeanor had been admirable she had followed the mens attempts to rescue her coolly and intelligently and had done everything she could to help them It was no wonder that the reaction was now making itself felt
Unfamiliar as he was with the controls of the plane Lund preferred the more dangerous job of holding Miss Gordon on the landing gear to the task of attempting to land So (swarming down) he took his placed beside her while the pilot dropped earthward in slow wide circles
The management fearing an accishydent when the landing was made sent a motorcar out onto the field in case the three people clinging to the gear might prefer to try and drop into it as it ran along under the plane Pangborn however perhaps wisely preferred the risks of a regushylar landing and in a final long swoop he swept over the grass and
MOST AVIATORS VIVIDLY REMEMBER
THEIR FIRST AIRPLANE RIDE AND CHERISH
THAT FOND MEMORY
AND THOSE OF US WHO HAVE BEEN
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DETAIL AS WELL By Ev CASSAGNERES
We remember how we found it and the details of that first step in our aviation
life Perhaps that purchase was made under unique circumstances not simply by writing a check You may find the story of my first airplane similar to yours you may find it just plain interesting or you may be startshying that search
This story begins shortly after Aushygust 141945 V] Day the end of World War II On September 27 that same year I applied for and was hired as a line boy for Reynolds Flying Service at the New Haven Municipal Airport near New Haven Connecticut
I was in high school (Hillhouse High) at that time and would ride my
bull Irs
bicycle to school every day rain snow or shine Then to get to work after school I rode it to the airport I did all the dirty work sweeping out the hangar and shop gassing and oilshying airplanes and washing and hand-propping airplanes when necesshysary Some were as big as Pratt amp Whitney R-985s I also helped out in the shop with repairs rib stitching and doping
Later that month I was on a bus ridshying from New Haven to my home in Westville a suburb of New Haven As we headed out Edgewood Avenue I happened to look out the window on the right side and nearly went nuts with excitement at what I saw It was in the yard of the Acme Auto Top Company
As soon as I got home I jumped onto my bicycle and rode back to see that airplane at Acme When [ met the owner Steve he said he wanted to sell it for $80 He showed me the wings tail surfaces and prop which were inshyside the building
The airplane was a 1929 Comshymand-Aire 3C-3T serial number 614 registration number NC901E It had a Curtiss OX-5 engine serial number 2116
The wings had silver fabric the
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fuselage was red and the tail surshyfaces were silver I was absolutely thrilled to just touch it I was only 17 years old and wondered how in the world I would ever come up with $80 for the airplane It was beautiful even though it most likely needed a complete rebuild to airshyworthy condition As partial payment for my work as a line boy I had been taking dual instruction in a Piper J-3C65 I wondered if I could even fly this airplane
At about this time I was also getshyting into serious bicycle racing through my friend Phil Kittredge who was already the Connecticut State Junior Champion He was not a pilot but agreed to be a partner in this endeavor Between us we came up with $15 as a down payment which we gave to Steve with a promise to get the rest as soon as we could
I went to work setting pins in loshycal bowling alleys and did some caddying at Yale Golf Course near where I lived both good jobs for a teenager at that time Phil and I
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These two shots are from the collection of Shelby Hagberg and are of the very ship forshymerly owned by then 17-yearshyold Ev Cassagneres Its a 1929 Command-Aire 3C-3T NC901 E serial number 614 Taken at Curtiss Field on Long Island New York The airplane was painted with silver wings and horizontal tail surface and a red fuselage and rudder
could not seem to raise enough cash to satisfy the airplane owner so we lost out on the deal and he kept the 15 bucks Of course we were devastated
In the meantime a local affluent gentleman who also collected anshytique automobiles managed to purchase the Command-Aire He had it moved out in the country in the town of Bethany It sat there out in a field with the wings laid out in the grass of an open field deterioratshying in the elements Occasionally I would cycle out there to look at it touch it and dream or fantasize
On January 21 1946 the new owner who knew who I was and that I was interested in the airplane called me and asked if I was still inshyterested He said he would sell it on a trade basis Needless to say I would come up with something
I happened to have a French-built Automoto bicycle that I was quite fond of but would be willing to part with It was worth about $80 so we did an even swap Now I had to find a place to put it and figure out a way
to get it home about 5 miles My friend Phil came to the rescue
again You see my own parents never did own a car or have drivers licenses Phil had the use of his fashythers 1937 Plymouth four-door car So we tied the tailskid in the trunk with clothesline rope and put the wings on the roof secured with ropes tied all over the place
We started out to drive the 5 miles to my house in Westville Well two young sporty guys couldshynt just go straight there and that would be that could they We realshyized that the local high school was due out at 230 in the afternoon So we just happened to detour with all of this interesting cargo over some hills to the school and we got there just as the students were getshyting out Many we knew and of course we directed our attention mainly to the girls So whats the story they would ask and that was all we needed We ahem had just flown down from some exotic place in northern Canada and planned on rebuilding the airplane for some other exotic adventure It was amazshying how convincing we could be and how gullible they were We did all of this while wearing an old pair of gogshygles and a helmet and with mischievous faces they still believed us so we let it go at that We laughed all the way home
The airplane sat in my backyard the rest of the winter as I worked on it although I really did not know what I was doing I did get the enshygine running a couple of times The sound and smell was exciting like a concert orchestra to me My parents gave me a lot of encouragement and enjoyed my project
However my enthusiasm and fanshytasy of flight were not to last very long We lived on the third floor of a three-family house and the landlord was not at all happy over this kid having an airplane in the backyard of our neighborhood So it had to go What to do We did not own a car so no garage was available and I could not find any other suitable
This shot taken at Curtiss Field as well clearly shows the split-axle landing gear and Fokker Dvll-styled wing center section as designed by famed aero engineer Albert Voellmecke
place for it So the bottom line was simple-I had to sell it And I never even took a picture of it nor did any of the neighbors
A schoolmate of mine by the name of Billy Gilbert also a stushydent pilot showed some interest and he lived in the town of Bethany That town had a grass runway airport and it was one of the oldest airports in New Engshyland where supposedly American Airlines got started Famous aviashytors had flown out of there names such as Bert Acosta Clarence Chamberlin Guss Graff Jack Tweed Franklin T Hank Kurt Bob Noorduyn (Norseman) and Batch Pond (Pond Creams) (The Bethany airport managed to stay in existence until the early 1980s)
On May 291946 Billy Gilbert came to the house with a farm rack truck and $30 loaded up the airshyplane and drove away That was the last time I saw it as r stood there and cried However I had hidden the propeller in our basement and still
have it as a memento in addition to a section of wing fabric with the black number NC901E on it
So what became of that old airshyplane Billy wen t into the Navy and his parents eventually sold the ship to a local junk and scrap dealer who was mainly interested in the OX engine That was the end of it I searched many years later but it was gone
Years later I came across many Command-Aire photographs and the ones shown with this article are all I have of that fond memory
Sometime after that I owned a 1941 Waco UPF-7 which I made my first dollar with by towing signs allover the place out of the Bethany airport and then a 1936 Ryan ST and now I have a 1953 Cessna 170B which I fly often (my first closed-in type)
Sometimes for old times sake r will fly the 170 with helmet and goggles and white scarf and the winshydows open See one never loses the thrill of real flight
In closing I can say that if one wants to fly bad enough one will find a way It is a healthy disease that can be most appreciated as you feel the wind in your face up in the air over our beautiful countryside
What else do I do now for fun My new book The Untold Story of The Spirit Of St Louis will be out next year 2002 the 75th annivershysary of Lindberghs epic flight This book has been a labor of love for decades and it will be published by Historic Aviation Books
When that is done I plan to write the history of Command-Aire and also some Connecticut aviation hisshytory In particular Im going to document the stories of the Cairns airplane the Kimball Beetle sevenshycylinder aircraft radial engine the Scorpion aircraft engine the Bristol gliders that were manufactured on Edgewood Avenue near the Acme Auto Top Company (see story) and the Bourdon- and Viking-built Kitty Hawk airplanes
After that I may retire
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 11
TYPE CLUB
Some Thoughts on Restoration and Airworthiness Originally appeared in Waco World News Vol I No 36 MaylJune 2001
by Robert G Lock
Restoring an airplane is a lot like flying-hours and hours of someshytimes boring work separated by a few moments of stark terror As one approaches the end of a restoration project there comes a time for certishyfication by the FAA unless the airplane has a permanent airworthishyness certificate Receiving that all-important permanent standard airworthiness certificate is the final objective This article will give some background on past certification procedures especially for airplanes that go back to the beginning of government rules and regulations
Governments entry into aviashytion essentially began with the creation of the Aeronautics Branch of the Department of Commerce Near the top of the agenda of the new bureaucracy was the certificatshying of airplanes pilots and eventually mechanics Approved type certificates (ATC) began in March 1927 and continue to this day Registration numbers were reshyquired and were painted on the wings and tail The Roman capital letter N denoting registration in the United States followed by the letter C for commercial X for
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experimental R for restricted and L for limited were adopted Design requirements needed for an ATC were contained in Aeronautics Bulletin 7 later 7A ATCs were numshybered sequentia lly beginning with 1 and ending with 817 (a new ATC numbering system was introduced after number 817) The certificating of pilots and later mechanics closely followed as the government tried to regulate the beginning of the aviation industry
Obtaining an ATC to manufacshyture and sell an airplane was costly even in the early days Group 2 apshyprovals were awarded to a person or company when only a limited numshyber of aircraft were to be built either as a new design or as a modification of an existing airplane being manushyfactured under an ATe The Group 2 approvals were cheaper and easier to obtain but design and manufacshyture were equiva lent to approved type cert ificates
An important item to remember is that if an airplane was designed to Aeronautics Bulletin 7 or 7A it still must meet those requirements toshyday So for some restorers a copy of this manual is helpful
Another bit of information critishycal to certification is that there were no permanent airworthiness certifishycates in the old days A representative of the government re -certificated the airplane annushyally and a new airworthiness certificate was issued The papershywork f i le in Washington DC became immense There was a file folder for each registered aircraft and all hard copy paperwork was meticulously maintained Even telegrams were retained
Each file folder was a complete diary of the airplane from owners to inspections and repairs Some of this data is available today on mishycrofiche For most all aircraft the original hard copy files have been placed on microfiche and then the hard copy fi les were destroyed I have seen original files that are still stored in Suitland Maryland Most of those files are not on microfiche
ATC data is also known as type design data Type design data can be found in the Aircraft Listing Enshygine Listing and Prope ll er Listing (for fewer than SO airp lanes regisshytered) and in the Aircraft Engine and Propeller Specification Sheets
for the middle-aged aircraft For airplanes of this vintage this
is the only source of data for the reshystorer If youre really lucky there may be copies of original factory drawings available as a valuable supplement However most of the factory drawings for many antique aircraft have been destroyed Fortushynately for Waco restorers factory drawings are available Drawings are invaluable when restoring old airplanes I searched for the Comshymand-Aire drawings but determined that they had all been destroyed However in my search I did locate some valuable type deshysign data from a most unusual source which might be fuel for anshyother story
In the mid 1930s the aviation inshydustry continued to grow By an act of Congress the government creshyated the Civil Aeronautics Administration (CAA) The CAA took regulations created by the Aeronautics Branch of the Departshyment of Commerce and expanded its bureaucratic role in aviation It created Civil Aviation Regulations (CAR) and Civil Aviation Manuals (CAM) Requirements of approved type were now contained in the CARs CAR 3 was certification for small aircraft Also to appear was the mechanics bible CAM 18 which spelled out requirements for major repairs to aircraft This publishycation evolved into the present FAA Advisory Circulars AC4313-1B andshy2B which give data on major repairs and alterations
The annual re-certificating of airshycraft was still required and a new airworthiness certificate was given to the owner after the airplane was approved for return to service As the workload increased a new method of certificating was created DeSignated aircraft maintenance inshyspectors (DAM I) were selected to take over the re-certificating duties These were well-experienced airshy
craft and engine (AampE) mechanics that were hand selected by local CAA maintenance inspectors The airworthiness certificate was still isshysued every year but in the mid-1950s about the time that the Federal Aviation Agency (FAA) came to power things began to change for airworthiness certificates They became permanent The aircraft could be re-certificated every year by a DAMI and later by an FAA airshyframe and powerplant (AampP) mechanic who holds an inspection authorization (IA) So today the AampP with IA can return to service annual inspections many major reshypairs and some major alterations
Congress created the Federal Avishyation Agency in 1958 Soon after the word II Agency was dropped in favor of II Administration And government control and bureaushycracy continued to grow ever larger
While we are on the subject of the FAA perhaps an easy method to distinguish differences between mashyjor repairs and major alterations is to apply the following
If the repair returns the aircraft to its original type certificate afshyfects airworthiness and cannot be done using elementary techniques then it is a major repair
If the repair (or modification) alshyters conformity to the original type design data then it is a major alteration
If an AampP mechanic cannot apshyprove a major repair or major alteration then a field approval by an FAA maintenance inspector must be obtained Sometimes this is more complicated than can be imagined Maybe a future story on FAA field approvals would prove inshyteresting
If an aircraft has never had a pershymanent airworthiness certificate then one must be obtained Here again the FAA issues this certifishycate To obtain that treasured piece of paper you must fill out an applishy
cation and prove that the airplane conforms to its type certificate Sometimes this is very difficult Esshypecially if the original type design data is incomplete or missing I have seen file cabinets in FAA headshyquarters with drawers containing type design data Just like Joe Juptshyners US Civil Aircraft books each drawer had a folder with the ATC number on top Some of the folders contained data while some were empty When the folder was empty the FAA had no type design data other than data that was published in Aircraft Engine and Propeller Listing which is not very much
For the coveted permanent airshyworthiness certificate an FAA representative will conduct a conshyformity inspection The basis for the inspection could be one or more of the following FAA Airshycraft Engine and Propeller Listing or Specification Sheets microfiche of original aircraft records containshying airworthiness and registration data factory drawings (if available) and aircraft and engine operating limitations
In addition current weight and balance calculations with critical forward and aft loading (if reshyquired) a loading schedule (if required) and appropriate placardshying must be included A list of required optional and special equipment must accompany the weight and balance data And lastly FAA Form 337 (Major Repair amp Mashyjor Alteration) must be completed by the supervising AampPIA Aircraft and engine logbooks must have apshypropriate entries made and registration data must be shown After many months (or should I say years) of restoration work perhaps that small piece of paper that says PERMANENT AIRWORTHINESS CERTIFICATE-STANDARD is now in your hand Categories of the airshyworthiness certificate are NORMAL UTILITY and ACROBATIC
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 13
Mike Sleineke
Yeah well just strip it and paint it
Shouldnt take more than a month Thats what Ronnie Cox and Greg Davis of Ft Lauderdale Florida said about their 1962 250 Comanche
Sound familiar That kind of comshyment is right up there with Well just clean up a few of the instrushyments or Gee wouldnt it look better with a new windshield
Not once in the history of vinshytage con tern porary airplanes has anyone
1 Removed just one part painted it and put it right back on without removing a bunch more first
2 Started to do just one restoration operation eg re-bush the landing gear and done only that one thing
3 Taken an engine off overhauled it and put it back on without redoshying everything in sight
4 Reupholstered just the front seats and stopped there
You get the picture Airplanes are a lot like tar babies and once you get
your fingers into them they generally suck you in right up to your navel and don t let you go until theres nothing left to do
Ronnie and Greg were both lookshying for a serious cross-country airplane they could use to run from Florida up to Ronnies summer house in the Michigan islands Ronnie had owned three Comanches in the past so that was his bird of choice For Greg it would be his first airplane ownership
Ronnie had a long history of airshyplane ownership and involvement because his dad was heavily involved in aircraft and used to fly him all over the country Plus he owned a long string of airplanes including a PT-19 and a bunch of Pipers including Tri-Pacers Pacers and such
Ronnie started flying while he was still based in Ohio in the 1960s
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The 2S0-hp six-cylinder Lycoming gives the Comanche Bonanza-rivaling speed (a cruise of 161 to 181 mph) and a useful load carrying capacity of up to 1200 pounds
Updated radios and a refurbished interior make the Comanche a comfortable cross-country speedster
and his wife and son learned to fly from the same CFI who taught both his father and him to fly
Cox an elecshytrical engineer by training had started his own enshygineering business years ago and even worked a Seneca II into it for corposhyrate transportation so by the time the 1962 Comanche entered thei r lives he had 5500 hours of flying time He recently sought a change in career and sold his business to fly for a comshymuter airline
Ronnie also had a business buildshying engines for drag racers that Greg said really helped because Ronshynie just has a feel for what has to be done to a machine mechanically to make it right
Cox enjoyed rebuilding airplanes almost from the beginning and his total restoration of a Cessna 140 won a Lindy Award as recognition that he was a hands-on kind of guy who farmed out as little of his airplane reshybuilding projects as possible However it was in looking for a little help while his son and he were reshybuilding his sons Cessna 120 (which also won a Lindy) that he met Greg Davis
We needed to have some alushyminum bent to make up a new spar doubler for the 120 Ronnie said and someone suggested we contact
this guy on the other side of the field Ronnie
laughed when he said this inshydicating something was coming We walked in with the original
doubler in our hand which was a litshytle crude and showed it to Greg This
was the first time Id laid eyes on him Ronnie said
He looked at the doubler threw it down and said No I cant make something like this I thought he was joking or something Then he said If I make it itll be better than that Greg can be a little cantankerous and Ronnie Cox laughed again
Greg Davis has run Davis Aircraft Services in Ft Lauderdale since 1985 and he specializes in doing structural repairs on corporate airplanes As such he has developed both the facilshyity and ability to do practically anything with sheet metal So beshytween Ronnies mechanical ability and Gregs feeling for sheet metal there was practically nothing they couldnt do to a little airplane
I had been part of an RV-4 buildshying project but got out of it because I was just too busy flying a friends Pitts S-2B Greg explained He said I could fly it as much as I wanted so I started competing and between that and work I didnt really have the time to own my own airplane
There was something about the chemistry between the two men that prompted them to want a cross-counshy
try airplane that could carry two guys 120 gallons of gas and our bagshygage Enter the Comanche
They ran into the airplane in Aushygust 1992 and it was a really sad example of the breed but the price was right and the sheet metal looked good Also it had no corrosion
Then they started comparing the logbooks to the actual airplane and found that someone had a fanciful imagination when it came to the defishynition of airworthiness directive (AD) compliance The Comanche has a bunch of fairly serious and expenshysive ADs Ronnie pointed out Over the years someone had been signing off the ADs but not doing them As they put it the airplane had about 25 years of pencil maintenance
We found a perfect example of how well this airplane was mainshytained when we replaced the tires One of the tubes was dated 1962 and had been on the airplane since it was built Greg said
The airplane had also been landed gear-up at some point in its career Again the previous keepers of the logs didnt see fit to mention this litshytle incident There were a bunch of scab patches on the belly we had to get rid of and we put new gear doors on it
Their approach to the sheet metal was simple If a panel needed a repair they would just replace the panel We re-skinned part of the turtledeck
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 17
WHAT OUR MEMBERS ARE RESTORING by HG Frautschy and Norm Petersen
AERONCA 7DC Sitting on the grass at Lee Bottom Airport near Louisville Kentucky Mark
and Wendie Paszkiewiczs (VAA 580997) 1946 Aeronca 7DC is ready for a flight in the warm hazy skies along the Ohio River First delivered as a 7 AC to a Phoenix Arizona flight school in 1946 with the installation of a Conshytinental 85-hp engine it became an Aeronca 7De Partially restored when they bought the project Mark and Wendie couldnt resist rebuilding some parts Now they fly the Champ around to local fly-ins and just have fun in it after work
CHAMPION 7GCB Posed in the afternoon sunshine of Sky
Harbor Airport in Duluth Minnesota is a beautiful 1962 Champion 7GCB N9912Y serial number 7GCB-133 mounted on an immaculate set of PKshy1800 floats Recently re-covered and painted by veteran mechanic Don Macor (VAA 28788) of Duluth Minnesota this particular aircraft is quite rare in that it has only 706 hours total time on airframe and engine has a factory original outside baggage compartment door and is one of only six 7GCBs remaining on the US Register In addition during its entire 39shyyear lifespan only one authorized inspectors name is in the aircraft logshybooks-Don Macor Don reports the airframe was in very good shape with only minor surface rust on a few places The covering is Ceconite 101 with bushytyrate dope in Daytona white Miami blue and black trim Note the seaplane auxiliary fins on the stabilizers necessary with the added mass of the floats ahead of the CG
Unusual to this model of 150 hp Champion is the outside baggage door on the right side of the fuselage seen here in the open position and ready for access to the baggage compartment
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because we removed the beacon It takes alshymost as long to patch the hole correctly as it does to replace the enshytire panel and then you dont have that ugly patch up there
The same thing held true for the cowlshying which they say is a weak point in a Coshymanche Building a new one consumed an enormous amount of time
Comanche control surfaces are reshyally thin mostly 016 and 020 so it doesnt take much to bend them up This airplane had apparently seen some hail that was heavy enough to dent the control surfaces but not the rest of the airplane so Greg said we re-skinned most of the control surfaces
Early in the project when the pair realized the airplane was going to take more than simply stripping and painting they decided on a specific goal We wanted to make it a truly modern airplane almost a new one so we could depend on it So we did everything but de-mate the wing We removed every single wire and sysshytem in the entire airplane and rebuilt every part of it according to Ronnie
When it came to the avionics Greg said it was really grungy It had Mark 12 radios in it and by the time we were done removing layers and layers of old wiring we took about SO pounds of wires out
Part of making it a modern airshyplane meant building reliability into everything ahead of the firewall We put a 260-hp exhaust system on it along with a lightweight starter new mags and most important we put a new fuel pump on it and had it flowshychecked Weve had some really tragic accidents in the Comanche community because the fuel pump was working but it wasnt putting out enough to feed the engine at takeoff power
According to the pair the landing
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gear is another area that needs careful examination because it wears out quickly We pulled every bushing and part of the gear and found that much of it was really sloppy This makes it hard to rig and contributes to gear collapses We dont know the history to our airplanes accident but that could have played a part
Naturally everything in the inteshyrior was replaced including a new panel with modern everything and they installed shoulder harnesses at the same time To keep their passenshygers happy they installed a small TV set with a VCR in the back seat They also installed a 14-inch thick big windshield and routed the edges down so it would fit flush into the original mounting channels
It took five years to get the airshyplane ready to fly and then it took another three months to get the pashyperwork completed We filed eight 337s and one field approval Because I do so many similar things with the corporate aircraft I just approached this one the same way Greg Davis said I filed them all through a DER (deSignated engineering representashytive) but rather than doing them locally I invited the FAA to come up and take a look at the airplane
They are obviously proud of the FAAs reaction to the way they apshyproached their project II After they came up the first time they brought another group of guys up to take a look at it They told us they wanted everyone in their office to see this beshy
cause this is the way they like to see an airshyplane and the supshyporting paperwork done Seems like theres a lesson for the rest of us in there somewhere
Ronnie Cox said The Comanche is a great airplane but like all airplanes if it needs extensive work it can be really expensive if you dont do it yourshyself Theres an old
saying about Piper products Made by farmers for farmers and its true The airplane is really easy to work on but the best thing you can do is make sure you get a good airplane in the first place
Cox has a number of pOints that he said every wannabe Comanche owner should satisfy before he or she buys a particular airplane Besides the normal over-all condition stuff that affects every airplane there are some specifics which include
bull AD list and compliance-Undershystand what airworthiness directives affect the airplane and make sure they were actually done
bull Gear condition-Look for cracked knuckles and measure as many internal dimensions as posshysible
bull Gear-up damage-Gear-up landshyings often crush the structure that the gear motor is attached to Make sure it was repaired properly
bull Flap track condition-The flap tracks wear and need to be carefully checked
bull Flap motor-The flap actuation system and especially the motor have to be checked for condition
The CoxDavis Comanche has more than 200 hours on it now and its owners (or should they be called creators) say it does exactly what they wanted it to do It lets them go long distances in comfort and they have the peace of mind that comes from knowing everything within that airplane was done right
CHAMPION 7ED7FC Ownerpilot Mike Foote (VAA 365457) wrote to us concerning his terrific restoration IIManufactured by Champion Aircraft in 1959 N8539E began life as a Tri-Champ In 1983 it was convelted to a taidragshy
gerl but only 12 short flight hours later life changed dramatically for N8539E when it was severely damaged in a windstorm The ownerls initial impression was that it would never fly again The remains went through several owners each intent upon restorationl but finding the task a daunting onel each chose instead to pass it along to someone else with more ambition My tum came in July of1995 After 15 months ofintense restoration efforts N8539E became a plane again on October 261 1996 1 flew the plane from my home base in Olathel Kansas to Oshkosh in 1997 and had it judged in the Contemporary category My efforts were rewardedl as the Champion was selected as the Outstanding Champion aircraft for that year It is still going strong and is just as satisfying to fly today as it was for the first time II
TAYLORCRAFf DC-65
Chet Peek (VAA 13458) author of terrific books such as The First Cub and Resurrection ofa Jenny has gotshyten back into flying after losing his airplanes and Norman Oklahoma hangar during a tornado in 1998 Chefs bought Bruce Bixlers Taylorshycraft DC-65 This DC-65 is one of the rare early Taylorcraft Tandems which had aluminum spars and ribs A few in the same series became the first Taylorcraft L-2 liaison airplanes Chefs airplane is finished in the Civilian Training Programs colors of blue and yellow
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September Mystery Plane
by HG Frautschy
This months Mystery Plane is a rare metal plane from the collection of Pete Bowers
Send your answer to EAA Vinshytage Airp lane PO Box 3086 Oshkosh WI 54903-3086 Your anshyswer needs to be in no later than October 15 for inclusion in the Deshycember issue of Vintage Airplane
You can also send your response via e-m ail Send your answer to vintageeaaorg
Be sure to include both your name and address (especially your city and state) in the body of your not e and put (Month) Mystery Plane in the subject line
Plenty of you knew the June Mysshytery Plane surely one of those Don t you wish there was just one of th ese left kind of airplanes Heres our first letter
The Mystery Plane in the June 2001 edition of Vintage Airplane is an Ireshyland N-2 Neptune
Ireland N-2 Nep
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G Sumner Ireland had been an engineer for Curtiss up to 1926 He later formed Ireland Aircraft Inc at Curshytiss Field Garden City and marketed th e Ireland Comet Meteor Privateer and Neptune Th e N-2B Neptune (circa 1927) was a four-pla ce amphibian powshyered by a 300-hp Wright J-6 while the N-2C Nepshytun e was a fiv e-place amphibian with a 450-hp PampWWasp
Thomas H Lymburn Princeton Minnesota
And more on the various models of the Neptune
The June Mystery Plane is the Amshyphibians Incorporated Model N-2B or N-2C with either PampW Wa sp engine or the Wright Whirlwind 300 in the five- or six-place amphibian Modificashytions from the Ireland A ircraft Inc Model ND5-ND6 include strut covers and increased bow angle on the tip floats and an extended main hull float behind the step The three views are from the Aircraft Yearbook 3- View
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Drawings 1903-1946 Russ Brown Lyndhurst Ohio
With Juptn ers U S Civil A ircraft this one didn t take long to idenshytify Vol 2 p ages 151-153 for ATC 153 des cribes th e Ireland Neptun e N-2B With enough clarity in th e photo to note the license as NC-88K its listed as L ____v
production number 43
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and had a 300-hp Wright J-6 engine (affirmed by the long rocker-box eavshyers) (Abo ut this time some models were being upgraded with a 450 PampW Wasp for the model N-2C-ATC 248)
Ive always been very appreciative of Joe Juptners good coverage of all the ATCd US aircraft Over the years Ive been building scale models of more obshyscure aircraft as a hobby Ive drawn many of my plans from photos and dishymensions in US Civil Aircraft In fact I have a plan I drew for the Nepshytune N-2C though Ive not built it yet Thats why I recognized the June Mysshytery plane was a Neptune I lived in Ecuador for about 45 years and made most of the models of jungle hardshywoods in 1 32 scale
Bub Borman Dallas Texas
Junes Mystery Plane was easy It is Irelands Neptune NC-89K shown on page 143 of us Civil Aircraft Vol 3
by Juptner Both pictures were probably taken the same day Note the man at left in both pictures same suit hat and tie Note the taped wire or tube on left wing forward strut
Excuse this old typewriter Im 81 and darned ifIll get a new one now
Good magazine good association good people Thanks
Albert B Aplin Chuluota Florida
Ju st a note to say I think the Jun e Mystery Plane is one of the Ireland Airshycraft Inc Neptune series
G Sumner Irelands ideas on flying boats pre-date this N-2C version by several years so the name was not new to aviation
Th e N-2C for the June issue was one of about nine built in late 1929 and the early 1930s
It was powered by a 450-hp Pratt amp Whitn ey Wasp and had a chromoly frame around which were bulkheads of duralumin to which were fastened
formers and then the outer aluminum skin
Hope this entry will serve to put me in the winners circle But then you always are when you join the V AA
John Kennelley Norwalk Iowa
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Feedback on Loose Fabric
Weve gotten plenty of comshyments about the article concerning bulging fabric While it wasnt part of my column originally many of you have addressed your comments to me so Ill check in on the freshyquency
Before we get to that Id like to update you on the status of our Champ airworthiness directive compliance It went fine as you may recall reading in my July colshyumn but a funny thing happened after flying a bit in the rain-the paint we sprayed over the patches has started to come off Dang Usshying MEK I thought Id completely removed the lemon-scented furnishyture polish I use regularly to clean the leading edges but I guess I was wrong The paint on the leading edges is beginning to peel HG and I wonder if they put any silishycone in the polish Doesnt say so on the can but maybe its a secret ingredient The peeling paint makes the new name (see photo on page 26) for the Champ even more accurate
Lets get on with the loose fabric discussion
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First loose fabric is a hazard for a couple of reasons Loose fabric can chafe against fairing strips and fasshyteners weakening it If a fabric edge is caught in the slipstream it can easily be torn away The results can be disastrous If it gets tangled up with a control surface it can even cause a loss of control and at the very least the loose wildly flapping fabric can be a huge distraction Heres what some others had to say I cant say I agree with everyones comments but it certainly is intershyesting to see how fabrics are being applied in shops around the world Heres our first note
You must have received a lot of comments about the Stinsons bulging fabric Ill give you my 2~ worth
Ive re-covered at least four during the past 45 years and dozens of reshycovering jobs on many types of aircraft Ive used cotton Irish linen Ceconite Razorback and Stits Im sticking with Ceconite 101 which [ like best I like the smell of dope beshysides all the other good features
When I tighten Ceconite I set my iron at 400degF to 450degF ] do the initial
tightening with a heat gun Then] work it with the iron evenly until] can feel the right tautness Thats just the right drumming sound and feel After the first coat ofprimer nishytrate dope there may be a few slack areas I then go over them again but never holding the iron in one place very long
Every Stinson I re-covered had screws on the four stringers on top of the fuselage from the windshield back about 3 or 4 feet spaced 3 or 4 inches apart ] just looked at three Stinsons on our flight line and they all have the screws
Don Macor Duluth Minnesota
Dons method might work well for him but Id hesitate to suggest it to anyone else In particular the use of a heat gun is prohibited in the Poly-Fiber and other process manuals that deal with the installashytion of Dacron fabric Uneven heat application is the reason it is disshycouraged Id also point out that the Cooper Superflight manual among others highlights the fact that Dacron fabric will start to m~lt
when heated above 450degF Thats why Don says he does not linger too long when shrinking the fabric with an iron set above 400degF
I just received my July issue of Vinshytage Airplane I always look forward to its arriva l That cover photo of the Stearman is beautiful Hats off to Jim Koepnick who does such a great job ofphotographing these old planes
I was drawn to the article on page 4 Is that Covering too Slack I have an uncovered Stinson 108-3 sitting in my garage so perhaps I can shed some light on some of the details about covshyering the Stinson 108 series In the article someone said Id be tempted to rib-stitch the fabric to the upper stringers on the fuselage Id suggest avoiding that temptation The Stinson used 4 PK screws to attach the fabric to the ribs and to the stringers above the fuselage I know because I have a coffee can with hundreds of these screws that I removed from my plane Above the fuselage there are four hatshysection aluminum stringers On my Stinson the fabric was attached to each of these stringers with 10 PK screws at 3-inch intervals beginning aft of the leading edge and running back just aft of the rear spar I believe thats how it was done originally I would not suggest rib-stitching beshycause the sharp edges of the hat-section stringers would cut the lacing And of course there is the matter of legality Rib-stitching would be a modification from the original construction certainly not appropriate in this situation
The photo on page 5 shows apparshyent ballooning of the fabric over the cabin area of the fuselage but theres more to this than meets the eye At the Stinson factory a blanket of fibershyglass insulation was installed above the cabin Old photos show this insushylation installed above the stringers I believe the fabric was then attached through the insulation to the stringers with the PK screws That puffy look above the cabin may be caused (at least in part) by the insulation Ive
We had a couple of folks ask if we could show a comparison shot highlighting loose fabric with the Stinson as an example In 1999 EAAs crack photo staff took air-to-air photos of a couple of Stinsons The top photo shows the fabric ballooning above the cabin In the lower photo the airplane restored by noted Stinson 108 rebuilder Butch Walsh of Arrington Virginia clearly shows the 4 PK (Parker-Kalon) screws that secure the fabric to the cabin roof stringers before the finishing tapes are applied
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discussion Im sure there are others out there who know more about this than I do Id enjoy hearing from anyshyone interes ted in Stinsons I have a website that I call Hangar 9 Aeroworks It features my project and other information on the 108-series Stinsons The URL is wwwhangar9 aeroworkscom
John Baker Damascus Maryland
Dip and HG were the first to agree with the members who wrote and called in to take them to ta sk for not confirming the exact method of attachment used by Stinson The intent of the original write-up was not to compos e a Stinson maintenance manual but to highlight the hazards inherent in any fabric job that is not propshyerly installed Our comments were meant to elicit a response from the membership in cluding expe rts like Butch Walsh Boy did they ever respond
Each of us is required to confirm the exact methods us ed by the manufacturer or subsequently apshyproved modifications and to scrupulously duplicate those methshyods The type certificate drawings and other information are often
seen Stinsons with the original type insulation that had the puffy look while sitting quietly on the ground
Dip Davis is correct that the Stinshyson did not originally cover the tanks on the 108s though Ive seen many restorations with the tanks covered There can be a bit of a problem with fabric tapes not adhering well to the perimeter of the tanks In fact I had a few tapes come loose once on a trip to EAA Chapter 643 s fl y-in at Pittstown New Jersey in 1993 A litshytle contact cem ent and some help from Chapter 643 got me back home okay Shortly after that I decided it was time for a complete re-cover job
Here s one more item about balshylooning fabric on the Stinson 108s that I learned from Stinson guru Butch Walsh The cabin fresh air intakes are on the leading edge of th e wing (as shown on page 17 of th e March issue of Vintage Airplane) Th ese vents feed into a chamber inside the inboard rib bay This chamber is not sealed very well so forced air spills out into the wing as well as into the cabin Taking care to seal this chamshyber can eliminate some problems with fabric on the inboard portion of th e wing and will provide more fresh air in the cabin
I hope this will contribute to the
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Dont blindly follow the lead of someone who may have restored the airplane in the past-they ma y have missed something that is required How many times have you seen a poorly placed inspection hole only to hear II But that was the way it was inshystalled on the airplane when I got it I Only the factory drawings and any supplemental type certifishy
cates (STC) or other approved modifications can change the aircrafts legal configushyration and the method of fabric installation is part of that configushyration
As both HG and I have pOinted out in the past the covering supshypliers have specific instructions on how their covering methods are to be installed Since covering with the Poly-Fiber Cooper Superflight Ai r-Tech or other processes were not included in the type certificate for the airplanes that we were dealshying with here an STC for their installation was obtained by the resp ective companies If their method is not followed you run the risk of having the covering job re jected by an IA (AampP with inshyspection authorization) mechanic andor the FAA for not conformshying to the STC If an STCd part is installed on an aircraft and the methods spelled out in the STC are not followed the aircraft is unshyairworthy Un-airworthy aircraft dont have very good resale values and besides you can t fly them And thats the point of all of this right Let s get out there do it right and fly safely
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ILLUSTRAT~D BY FE HIL~Y
On February 17th last at Ellington Field Houston Texas Gates Flying Circus
a well-known American company of stunt flyers was giving an exhibishytion for the benefit of the Thirty-sixth Division Air Service of the American Army One of the scheduled items was a daring parashychute descent by a y~)Ung chorus girl Rosalie Gordon It was not the first time she had essayed the feat having worked with the Gates Circus on the Pacific coast the previous year
Dressed in a white satin pilots uniform with little red buttons she ascended in a plane driven by Clyde Pangborn one of the Circus finest pilots Behind her in the rear cockpit sat Milton Girton who was to assist her in her preparations for the leap
It had rained in the morning the sky was full of low-lying clouds and at two thousand feet it was decided that she should make her leap The parachute was in a container tied to the landing gear of the plane with a short rope another rope connected the parachute with the girl who stepped coolly out onto the wing inshy
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spected the harness about her waist to see that it was properly adjusted and then jumped off into space
For a dozen feet or so she dropped headlong momentarily expecting the canopy of the parachute to open as usual and check her swift descent Instead she suddenly felt a terrific jerk and found that she was hanging suspended underneath the aeroshyplane trailing after it at the end of the ropes attached to the harness about her waist Her light weight was not enough to spring the trap of the parachute and a ring at the edge of the canvas canopy to which one of
the supporting ropes was attached had caught on a rod projecting from the landing gear From this fixture Miss Gordon now swung helplessly above the heads of the crowd
It was a fearful predicament Unshyable to crawl back or to free the parachute it seemed that certain death awaited the poor girl As long as the petrol lasted she was comparshyatively safe-unless she became detached and the parachute still failed to open-but once the plane was forced to land she would inshyeVitably be dragged to death beneath it Unless she could somehow be got
back onto the plane nothing could save her
Below the crowd of five thousand people looked on for a while uncomshyprehendingly To them it was at present all part of the show but the personnel of the Circus and the other practical aviators on the ground realshyized only too well the tragedy that was threatening Orders rang out sharp and decisive and half-a-dozen planes took to the air circling vainly about the swinging girl in an atshytempt to solve the problem The onlookers began to understand that something was seriously amiss Planes of the type used-this one was equipped with a 180 hp Hisso motor-land at express speed Thirty miles an hour is the minimum which meant that Rosalie would be dashed to pieces and her body manshygled beneath the tailskid directly as the machine came down As it was the anxious Pangborn having swooped earthwards to let those beshylow see her predicament the helpless girl hung perilously near the rough ground
Plane after plane with men lying out along the wing surfaces knife in hand hoping to cut her loose if posshysible swept past Pangborns machine risking imminent collision All of them however failed as did the frantic efforts of Girton himself who crawled out onto the landing gear and for half an hour battled desshyperately to pull the girl up to a perch on the axle and comparative safety But a previous hour of daredevil stunts had weakened him and he found his strength insufficient for the task
Then it was that Thompson one of the would-be rescuers swooped ground wards with his plane Someshything white fluttered from his machine as he rose again with a roar An official picked the object up-a piece of cardboard on which was the scribbled message Send Freddy up with a rope Will pick him up He can help pull her Up
It was cryptic enough to the uninishytiated but those who knew realized
INSTINCTIV~LY
PANGBORN AND
THOMPSON R~AD
WHAT WAS IN ON~
ANOTH~RS MINDS AND
SOON TH~ TWO
MACHIN~S W~R~
SAILING SID~-BY-SID[
WING ALMOST
TOUCHING WING
that one of the most daring feats ever attempted was to be put into operation to save the apparently doomed girl
Presently Thompson came to earth and into his plane climbed Freddy Lund a former member of the Circus but now in commercial life Up toward Pangborns machine with that helpless figure dangling beshyneath it Thompsons aeroplane shot until it was flying close below Lund climbing out on the upper wing reached frantically up in an effort to grasp Rosalies feet in the hope that their combined weight would release the catch of the parachute and let them both down to safety But the bumpy rise and fall of the planes made the maneuver impossible and it was speedily evident that another and even more desperate method would have to be tried if the girl was to be saved
Instinctively Pangborn and Thompson read what was in one anshyothers minds and soon the two machines were sailing side-by-side wing almost touching wing Then Lund swung himself down a stage lower and the crowd below gasped Hundreds of binoculars showed what was to be attempted and men and women sank on their knees and prayed openly that the fearless men aloft might be able to carry out their purpose
Just when it seemed that the two machines must become locked in a death grip which would send both of them hurtling to destruction Lund stretched out a hand grasped a strut on Pangborns plane and leapt across the gulf For an instant he swayed slid almost fell and then a great shout went up Hes done it Hes done it
It was a wonderful effort Usually this change from plane to plane pershyilous enough at the best of times is only attempted with nonskid strips on the wings and rubber shoes on the feet of the aviator Lund made it with slippery leather-soled boots on wings like shining glass
Only he knew how near he was to failure as a matter of fact his feet slid away beneath him but he clung to the strut with all his strength and so saved himself A white-faced man down below dropped his field glasses and gasped
Its a miracle he said solemnly But the rescue was far from being
accomplished yet Recovering himshyself Lund scrambled into the cockpit and then out of that and down onto the landing gear where Girton was still continuing his vain efforts to haul the girl up Together they heaved and strained at the rope but it was quickly seen from below that their combined efforts were inshysufficient and a groan broke from the crowd when Lund was seen laboshyriously climbing back into the cockpit
Theyve failed Theyve failed The cry went up
It certainly seemed so and matshyters looked grave for the anxious officials of the Circus knew that the sands of time were fast running out in another direction The petrol supshyply carried by the plane was limited Once it was exhausted and landing was imperative in which case nothshying could save the girl if she remained in her present position Many of the offiCials in fact were convinced that she was as good as dead already
Not so Pangborn and Lund how-
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After the ordeal Rosalie Gordon is seen in the centre with Lund who rescued her on the right The two other aviators are Pangborn and Thompson
came to earth in perfect fashion The onlookers released from the
restraint of their pent-up emotions at once surged wildly forward on to the ground but mounted attendants and armed police drove them back and an ambulance came dashing up with screeching horn
From underneath the plane crawled three disheveled but almost unhurt figures The two aviators had taken the slight shock of a perfect landing on their broad backs and they rose to their feet stiffly specks of blood on their faces and wrists from cuts caused by the rope from which Rosalie Gordon had been susshypended Daredevil flyers though they were both they and Pangborn showed the strain of the last halfshyhour All of them were white-faced and trembling
I was afraid the petrol would give out said Pangborn I kept circling over a little lake out there I thought that if we were forced to land it would be better than the ground
He walked over and measured the spirit in his tank and his face was eloquent He had just three minutes supply left
At first the little actress laughed hysterically but when a friend Esshyther Gray rushed up to her and embraced her she broke down and cried
So ended one of the biggest thrills and one of the finest exhibitions of heroism in the history of aviation Few flying men possess sufficient skill to carry out the work of the resshycue accomplished by Pangborn Lund and Girton-fewer still pershyhaps would have had the courage to attempt it
Seven years later Clyde Pangborn would be world famous for being the pilot on the first nonstop crossshying of the Pacific but in 1924 his cool head helped save a young lady parachutist from certain death
ever A few shouted words between them and then Lund took over the controls while Pangborn descended the frail under-rigging supports and joined the indefatigable Girton on the landing gear
Pangborn was slight of build but marvelously strong an open-air life and constant exercise had given him sinews of steel Crooking one leg over the axle and hanging on with one hand he slipped the other foot down and got a toehold under the girls belt Immediately she clasped him round the leg and with Girton carrying out a similar maneuver she was slowly raised until both men could reach her with their free hands A mighty heave and they hauled her into comparative safety on the axle-a wooden crosspiece three inches wide between the landshying wheels One says comparative safety advisedly There was little more than three feet of clearance beshytween the axle and the base of the plane and it was still a tossup whether through the give of the springs in landing anyone on the axle would not be crushed It was a risk that had to be taken however
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for nothing more could be done Once more Pangborn changed
places with Lund while Miss Gorshydon clung to the axle in a half-fainting condition Considering the fearful mental strain she had unshydergone her demeanor had been admirable she had followed the mens attempts to rescue her coolly and intelligently and had done everything she could to help them It was no wonder that the reaction was now making itself felt
Unfamiliar as he was with the controls of the plane Lund preferred the more dangerous job of holding Miss Gordon on the landing gear to the task of attempting to land So (swarming down) he took his placed beside her while the pilot dropped earthward in slow wide circles
The management fearing an accishydent when the landing was made sent a motorcar out onto the field in case the three people clinging to the gear might prefer to try and drop into it as it ran along under the plane Pangborn however perhaps wisely preferred the risks of a regushylar landing and in a final long swoop he swept over the grass and
MOST AVIATORS VIVIDLY REMEMBER
THEIR FIRST AIRPLANE RIDE AND CHERISH
THAT FOND MEMORY
AND THOSE OF US WHO HAVE BEEN
FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO OWN OUR OWN
AIRPLANE REMEMBER THAT IN VIVID
DETAIL AS WELL By Ev CASSAGNERES
We remember how we found it and the details of that first step in our aviation
life Perhaps that purchase was made under unique circumstances not simply by writing a check You may find the story of my first airplane similar to yours you may find it just plain interesting or you may be startshying that search
This story begins shortly after Aushygust 141945 V] Day the end of World War II On September 27 that same year I applied for and was hired as a line boy for Reynolds Flying Service at the New Haven Municipal Airport near New Haven Connecticut
I was in high school (Hillhouse High) at that time and would ride my
bull Irs
bicycle to school every day rain snow or shine Then to get to work after school I rode it to the airport I did all the dirty work sweeping out the hangar and shop gassing and oilshying airplanes and washing and hand-propping airplanes when necesshysary Some were as big as Pratt amp Whitney R-985s I also helped out in the shop with repairs rib stitching and doping
Later that month I was on a bus ridshying from New Haven to my home in Westville a suburb of New Haven As we headed out Edgewood Avenue I happened to look out the window on the right side and nearly went nuts with excitement at what I saw It was in the yard of the Acme Auto Top Company
As soon as I got home I jumped onto my bicycle and rode back to see that airplane at Acme When [ met the owner Steve he said he wanted to sell it for $80 He showed me the wings tail surfaces and prop which were inshyside the building
The airplane was a 1929 Comshymand-Aire 3C-3T serial number 614 registration number NC901E It had a Curtiss OX-5 engine serial number 2116
The wings had silver fabric the
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fuselage was red and the tail surshyfaces were silver I was absolutely thrilled to just touch it I was only 17 years old and wondered how in the world I would ever come up with $80 for the airplane It was beautiful even though it most likely needed a complete rebuild to airshyworthy condition As partial payment for my work as a line boy I had been taking dual instruction in a Piper J-3C65 I wondered if I could even fly this airplane
At about this time I was also getshyting into serious bicycle racing through my friend Phil Kittredge who was already the Connecticut State Junior Champion He was not a pilot but agreed to be a partner in this endeavor Between us we came up with $15 as a down payment which we gave to Steve with a promise to get the rest as soon as we could
I went to work setting pins in loshycal bowling alleys and did some caddying at Yale Golf Course near where I lived both good jobs for a teenager at that time Phil and I
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These two shots are from the collection of Shelby Hagberg and are of the very ship forshymerly owned by then 17-yearshyold Ev Cassagneres Its a 1929 Command-Aire 3C-3T NC901 E serial number 614 Taken at Curtiss Field on Long Island New York The airplane was painted with silver wings and horizontal tail surface and a red fuselage and rudder
could not seem to raise enough cash to satisfy the airplane owner so we lost out on the deal and he kept the 15 bucks Of course we were devastated
In the meantime a local affluent gentleman who also collected anshytique automobiles managed to purchase the Command-Aire He had it moved out in the country in the town of Bethany It sat there out in a field with the wings laid out in the grass of an open field deterioratshying in the elements Occasionally I would cycle out there to look at it touch it and dream or fantasize
On January 21 1946 the new owner who knew who I was and that I was interested in the airplane called me and asked if I was still inshyterested He said he would sell it on a trade basis Needless to say I would come up with something
I happened to have a French-built Automoto bicycle that I was quite fond of but would be willing to part with It was worth about $80 so we did an even swap Now I had to find a place to put it and figure out a way
to get it home about 5 miles My friend Phil came to the rescue
again You see my own parents never did own a car or have drivers licenses Phil had the use of his fashythers 1937 Plymouth four-door car So we tied the tailskid in the trunk with clothesline rope and put the wings on the roof secured with ropes tied all over the place
We started out to drive the 5 miles to my house in Westville Well two young sporty guys couldshynt just go straight there and that would be that could they We realshyized that the local high school was due out at 230 in the afternoon So we just happened to detour with all of this interesting cargo over some hills to the school and we got there just as the students were getshyting out Many we knew and of course we directed our attention mainly to the girls So whats the story they would ask and that was all we needed We ahem had just flown down from some exotic place in northern Canada and planned on rebuilding the airplane for some other exotic adventure It was amazshying how convincing we could be and how gullible they were We did all of this while wearing an old pair of gogshygles and a helmet and with mischievous faces they still believed us so we let it go at that We laughed all the way home
The airplane sat in my backyard the rest of the winter as I worked on it although I really did not know what I was doing I did get the enshygine running a couple of times The sound and smell was exciting like a concert orchestra to me My parents gave me a lot of encouragement and enjoyed my project
However my enthusiasm and fanshytasy of flight were not to last very long We lived on the third floor of a three-family house and the landlord was not at all happy over this kid having an airplane in the backyard of our neighborhood So it had to go What to do We did not own a car so no garage was available and I could not find any other suitable
This shot taken at Curtiss Field as well clearly shows the split-axle landing gear and Fokker Dvll-styled wing center section as designed by famed aero engineer Albert Voellmecke
place for it So the bottom line was simple-I had to sell it And I never even took a picture of it nor did any of the neighbors
A schoolmate of mine by the name of Billy Gilbert also a stushydent pilot showed some interest and he lived in the town of Bethany That town had a grass runway airport and it was one of the oldest airports in New Engshyland where supposedly American Airlines got started Famous aviashytors had flown out of there names such as Bert Acosta Clarence Chamberlin Guss Graff Jack Tweed Franklin T Hank Kurt Bob Noorduyn (Norseman) and Batch Pond (Pond Creams) (The Bethany airport managed to stay in existence until the early 1980s)
On May 291946 Billy Gilbert came to the house with a farm rack truck and $30 loaded up the airshyplane and drove away That was the last time I saw it as r stood there and cried However I had hidden the propeller in our basement and still
have it as a memento in addition to a section of wing fabric with the black number NC901E on it
So what became of that old airshyplane Billy wen t into the Navy and his parents eventually sold the ship to a local junk and scrap dealer who was mainly interested in the OX engine That was the end of it I searched many years later but it was gone
Years later I came across many Command-Aire photographs and the ones shown with this article are all I have of that fond memory
Sometime after that I owned a 1941 Waco UPF-7 which I made my first dollar with by towing signs allover the place out of the Bethany airport and then a 1936 Ryan ST and now I have a 1953 Cessna 170B which I fly often (my first closed-in type)
Sometimes for old times sake r will fly the 170 with helmet and goggles and white scarf and the winshydows open See one never loses the thrill of real flight
In closing I can say that if one wants to fly bad enough one will find a way It is a healthy disease that can be most appreciated as you feel the wind in your face up in the air over our beautiful countryside
What else do I do now for fun My new book The Untold Story of The Spirit Of St Louis will be out next year 2002 the 75th annivershysary of Lindberghs epic flight This book has been a labor of love for decades and it will be published by Historic Aviation Books
When that is done I plan to write the history of Command-Aire and also some Connecticut aviation hisshytory In particular Im going to document the stories of the Cairns airplane the Kimball Beetle sevenshycylinder aircraft radial engine the Scorpion aircraft engine the Bristol gliders that were manufactured on Edgewood Avenue near the Acme Auto Top Company (see story) and the Bourdon- and Viking-built Kitty Hawk airplanes
After that I may retire
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TYPE CLUB
Some Thoughts on Restoration and Airworthiness Originally appeared in Waco World News Vol I No 36 MaylJune 2001
by Robert G Lock
Restoring an airplane is a lot like flying-hours and hours of someshytimes boring work separated by a few moments of stark terror As one approaches the end of a restoration project there comes a time for certishyfication by the FAA unless the airplane has a permanent airworthishyness certificate Receiving that all-important permanent standard airworthiness certificate is the final objective This article will give some background on past certification procedures especially for airplanes that go back to the beginning of government rules and regulations
Governments entry into aviashytion essentially began with the creation of the Aeronautics Branch of the Department of Commerce Near the top of the agenda of the new bureaucracy was the certificatshying of airplanes pilots and eventually mechanics Approved type certificates (ATC) began in March 1927 and continue to this day Registration numbers were reshyquired and were painted on the wings and tail The Roman capital letter N denoting registration in the United States followed by the letter C for commercial X for
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experimental R for restricted and L for limited were adopted Design requirements needed for an ATC were contained in Aeronautics Bulletin 7 later 7A ATCs were numshybered sequentia lly beginning with 1 and ending with 817 (a new ATC numbering system was introduced after number 817) The certificating of pilots and later mechanics closely followed as the government tried to regulate the beginning of the aviation industry
Obtaining an ATC to manufacshyture and sell an airplane was costly even in the early days Group 2 apshyprovals were awarded to a person or company when only a limited numshyber of aircraft were to be built either as a new design or as a modification of an existing airplane being manushyfactured under an ATe The Group 2 approvals were cheaper and easier to obtain but design and manufacshyture were equiva lent to approved type cert ificates
An important item to remember is that if an airplane was designed to Aeronautics Bulletin 7 or 7A it still must meet those requirements toshyday So for some restorers a copy of this manual is helpful
Another bit of information critishycal to certification is that there were no permanent airworthiness certifishycates in the old days A representative of the government re -certificated the airplane annushyally and a new airworthiness certificate was issued The papershywork f i le in Washington DC became immense There was a file folder for each registered aircraft and all hard copy paperwork was meticulously maintained Even telegrams were retained
Each file folder was a complete diary of the airplane from owners to inspections and repairs Some of this data is available today on mishycrofiche For most all aircraft the original hard copy files have been placed on microfiche and then the hard copy fi les were destroyed I have seen original files that are still stored in Suitland Maryland Most of those files are not on microfiche
ATC data is also known as type design data Type design data can be found in the Aircraft Listing Enshygine Listing and Prope ll er Listing (for fewer than SO airp lanes regisshytered) and in the Aircraft Engine and Propeller Specification Sheets
for the middle-aged aircraft For airplanes of this vintage this
is the only source of data for the reshystorer If youre really lucky there may be copies of original factory drawings available as a valuable supplement However most of the factory drawings for many antique aircraft have been destroyed Fortushynately for Waco restorers factory drawings are available Drawings are invaluable when restoring old airplanes I searched for the Comshymand-Aire drawings but determined that they had all been destroyed However in my search I did locate some valuable type deshysign data from a most unusual source which might be fuel for anshyother story
In the mid 1930s the aviation inshydustry continued to grow By an act of Congress the government creshyated the Civil Aeronautics Administration (CAA) The CAA took regulations created by the Aeronautics Branch of the Departshyment of Commerce and expanded its bureaucratic role in aviation It created Civil Aviation Regulations (CAR) and Civil Aviation Manuals (CAM) Requirements of approved type were now contained in the CARs CAR 3 was certification for small aircraft Also to appear was the mechanics bible CAM 18 which spelled out requirements for major repairs to aircraft This publishycation evolved into the present FAA Advisory Circulars AC4313-1B andshy2B which give data on major repairs and alterations
The annual re-certificating of airshycraft was still required and a new airworthiness certificate was given to the owner after the airplane was approved for return to service As the workload increased a new method of certificating was created DeSignated aircraft maintenance inshyspectors (DAM I) were selected to take over the re-certificating duties These were well-experienced airshy
craft and engine (AampE) mechanics that were hand selected by local CAA maintenance inspectors The airworthiness certificate was still isshysued every year but in the mid-1950s about the time that the Federal Aviation Agency (FAA) came to power things began to change for airworthiness certificates They became permanent The aircraft could be re-certificated every year by a DAMI and later by an FAA airshyframe and powerplant (AampP) mechanic who holds an inspection authorization (IA) So today the AampP with IA can return to service annual inspections many major reshypairs and some major alterations
Congress created the Federal Avishyation Agency in 1958 Soon after the word II Agency was dropped in favor of II Administration And government control and bureaushycracy continued to grow ever larger
While we are on the subject of the FAA perhaps an easy method to distinguish differences between mashyjor repairs and major alterations is to apply the following
If the repair returns the aircraft to its original type certificate afshyfects airworthiness and cannot be done using elementary techniques then it is a major repair
If the repair (or modification) alshyters conformity to the original type design data then it is a major alteration
If an AampP mechanic cannot apshyprove a major repair or major alteration then a field approval by an FAA maintenance inspector must be obtained Sometimes this is more complicated than can be imagined Maybe a future story on FAA field approvals would prove inshyteresting
If an aircraft has never had a pershymanent airworthiness certificate then one must be obtained Here again the FAA issues this certifishycate To obtain that treasured piece of paper you must fill out an applishy
cation and prove that the airplane conforms to its type certificate Sometimes this is very difficult Esshypecially if the original type design data is incomplete or missing I have seen file cabinets in FAA headshyquarters with drawers containing type design data Just like Joe Juptshyners US Civil Aircraft books each drawer had a folder with the ATC number on top Some of the folders contained data while some were empty When the folder was empty the FAA had no type design data other than data that was published in Aircraft Engine and Propeller Listing which is not very much
For the coveted permanent airshyworthiness certificate an FAA representative will conduct a conshyformity inspection The basis for the inspection could be one or more of the following FAA Airshycraft Engine and Propeller Listing or Specification Sheets microfiche of original aircraft records containshying airworthiness and registration data factory drawings (if available) and aircraft and engine operating limitations
In addition current weight and balance calculations with critical forward and aft loading (if reshyquired) a loading schedule (if required) and appropriate placardshying must be included A list of required optional and special equipment must accompany the weight and balance data And lastly FAA Form 337 (Major Repair amp Mashyjor Alteration) must be completed by the supervising AampPIA Aircraft and engine logbooks must have apshypropriate entries made and registration data must be shown After many months (or should I say years) of restoration work perhaps that small piece of paper that says PERMANENT AIRWORTHINESS CERTIFICATE-STANDARD is now in your hand Categories of the airshyworthiness certificate are NORMAL UTILITY and ACROBATIC
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Mike Sleineke
Yeah well just strip it and paint it
Shouldnt take more than a month Thats what Ronnie Cox and Greg Davis of Ft Lauderdale Florida said about their 1962 250 Comanche
Sound familiar That kind of comshyment is right up there with Well just clean up a few of the instrushyments or Gee wouldnt it look better with a new windshield
Not once in the history of vinshytage con tern porary airplanes has anyone
1 Removed just one part painted it and put it right back on without removing a bunch more first
2 Started to do just one restoration operation eg re-bush the landing gear and done only that one thing
3 Taken an engine off overhauled it and put it back on without redoshying everything in sight
4 Reupholstered just the front seats and stopped there
You get the picture Airplanes are a lot like tar babies and once you get
your fingers into them they generally suck you in right up to your navel and don t let you go until theres nothing left to do
Ronnie and Greg were both lookshying for a serious cross-country airplane they could use to run from Florida up to Ronnies summer house in the Michigan islands Ronnie had owned three Comanches in the past so that was his bird of choice For Greg it would be his first airplane ownership
Ronnie had a long history of airshyplane ownership and involvement because his dad was heavily involved in aircraft and used to fly him all over the country Plus he owned a long string of airplanes including a PT-19 and a bunch of Pipers including Tri-Pacers Pacers and such
Ronnie started flying while he was still based in Ohio in the 1960s
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The 2S0-hp six-cylinder Lycoming gives the Comanche Bonanza-rivaling speed (a cruise of 161 to 181 mph) and a useful load carrying capacity of up to 1200 pounds
Updated radios and a refurbished interior make the Comanche a comfortable cross-country speedster
and his wife and son learned to fly from the same CFI who taught both his father and him to fly
Cox an elecshytrical engineer by training had started his own enshygineering business years ago and even worked a Seneca II into it for corposhyrate transportation so by the time the 1962 Comanche entered thei r lives he had 5500 hours of flying time He recently sought a change in career and sold his business to fly for a comshymuter airline
Ronnie also had a business buildshying engines for drag racers that Greg said really helped because Ronshynie just has a feel for what has to be done to a machine mechanically to make it right
Cox enjoyed rebuilding airplanes almost from the beginning and his total restoration of a Cessna 140 won a Lindy Award as recognition that he was a hands-on kind of guy who farmed out as little of his airplane reshybuilding projects as possible However it was in looking for a little help while his son and he were reshybuilding his sons Cessna 120 (which also won a Lindy) that he met Greg Davis
We needed to have some alushyminum bent to make up a new spar doubler for the 120 Ronnie said and someone suggested we contact
this guy on the other side of the field Ronnie
laughed when he said this inshydicating something was coming We walked in with the original
doubler in our hand which was a litshytle crude and showed it to Greg This
was the first time Id laid eyes on him Ronnie said
He looked at the doubler threw it down and said No I cant make something like this I thought he was joking or something Then he said If I make it itll be better than that Greg can be a little cantankerous and Ronnie Cox laughed again
Greg Davis has run Davis Aircraft Services in Ft Lauderdale since 1985 and he specializes in doing structural repairs on corporate airplanes As such he has developed both the facilshyity and ability to do practically anything with sheet metal So beshytween Ronnies mechanical ability and Gregs feeling for sheet metal there was practically nothing they couldnt do to a little airplane
I had been part of an RV-4 buildshying project but got out of it because I was just too busy flying a friends Pitts S-2B Greg explained He said I could fly it as much as I wanted so I started competing and between that and work I didnt really have the time to own my own airplane
There was something about the chemistry between the two men that prompted them to want a cross-counshy
try airplane that could carry two guys 120 gallons of gas and our bagshygage Enter the Comanche
They ran into the airplane in Aushygust 1992 and it was a really sad example of the breed but the price was right and the sheet metal looked good Also it had no corrosion
Then they started comparing the logbooks to the actual airplane and found that someone had a fanciful imagination when it came to the defishynition of airworthiness directive (AD) compliance The Comanche has a bunch of fairly serious and expenshysive ADs Ronnie pointed out Over the years someone had been signing off the ADs but not doing them As they put it the airplane had about 25 years of pencil maintenance
We found a perfect example of how well this airplane was mainshytained when we replaced the tires One of the tubes was dated 1962 and had been on the airplane since it was built Greg said
The airplane had also been landed gear-up at some point in its career Again the previous keepers of the logs didnt see fit to mention this litshytle incident There were a bunch of scab patches on the belly we had to get rid of and we put new gear doors on it
Their approach to the sheet metal was simple If a panel needed a repair they would just replace the panel We re-skinned part of the turtledeck
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 17
WHAT OUR MEMBERS ARE RESTORING by HG Frautschy and Norm Petersen
AERONCA 7DC Sitting on the grass at Lee Bottom Airport near Louisville Kentucky Mark
and Wendie Paszkiewiczs (VAA 580997) 1946 Aeronca 7DC is ready for a flight in the warm hazy skies along the Ohio River First delivered as a 7 AC to a Phoenix Arizona flight school in 1946 with the installation of a Conshytinental 85-hp engine it became an Aeronca 7De Partially restored when they bought the project Mark and Wendie couldnt resist rebuilding some parts Now they fly the Champ around to local fly-ins and just have fun in it after work
CHAMPION 7GCB Posed in the afternoon sunshine of Sky
Harbor Airport in Duluth Minnesota is a beautiful 1962 Champion 7GCB N9912Y serial number 7GCB-133 mounted on an immaculate set of PKshy1800 floats Recently re-covered and painted by veteran mechanic Don Macor (VAA 28788) of Duluth Minnesota this particular aircraft is quite rare in that it has only 706 hours total time on airframe and engine has a factory original outside baggage compartment door and is one of only six 7GCBs remaining on the US Register In addition during its entire 39shyyear lifespan only one authorized inspectors name is in the aircraft logshybooks-Don Macor Don reports the airframe was in very good shape with only minor surface rust on a few places The covering is Ceconite 101 with bushytyrate dope in Daytona white Miami blue and black trim Note the seaplane auxiliary fins on the stabilizers necessary with the added mass of the floats ahead of the CG
Unusual to this model of 150 hp Champion is the outside baggage door on the right side of the fuselage seen here in the open position and ready for access to the baggage compartment
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because we removed the beacon It takes alshymost as long to patch the hole correctly as it does to replace the enshytire panel and then you dont have that ugly patch up there
The same thing held true for the cowlshying which they say is a weak point in a Coshymanche Building a new one consumed an enormous amount of time
Comanche control surfaces are reshyally thin mostly 016 and 020 so it doesnt take much to bend them up This airplane had apparently seen some hail that was heavy enough to dent the control surfaces but not the rest of the airplane so Greg said we re-skinned most of the control surfaces
Early in the project when the pair realized the airplane was going to take more than simply stripping and painting they decided on a specific goal We wanted to make it a truly modern airplane almost a new one so we could depend on it So we did everything but de-mate the wing We removed every single wire and sysshytem in the entire airplane and rebuilt every part of it according to Ronnie
When it came to the avionics Greg said it was really grungy It had Mark 12 radios in it and by the time we were done removing layers and layers of old wiring we took about SO pounds of wires out
Part of making it a modern airshyplane meant building reliability into everything ahead of the firewall We put a 260-hp exhaust system on it along with a lightweight starter new mags and most important we put a new fuel pump on it and had it flowshychecked Weve had some really tragic accidents in the Comanche community because the fuel pump was working but it wasnt putting out enough to feed the engine at takeoff power
According to the pair the landing
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gear is another area that needs careful examination because it wears out quickly We pulled every bushing and part of the gear and found that much of it was really sloppy This makes it hard to rig and contributes to gear collapses We dont know the history to our airplanes accident but that could have played a part
Naturally everything in the inteshyrior was replaced including a new panel with modern everything and they installed shoulder harnesses at the same time To keep their passenshygers happy they installed a small TV set with a VCR in the back seat They also installed a 14-inch thick big windshield and routed the edges down so it would fit flush into the original mounting channels
It took five years to get the airshyplane ready to fly and then it took another three months to get the pashyperwork completed We filed eight 337s and one field approval Because I do so many similar things with the corporate aircraft I just approached this one the same way Greg Davis said I filed them all through a DER (deSignated engineering representashytive) but rather than doing them locally I invited the FAA to come up and take a look at the airplane
They are obviously proud of the FAAs reaction to the way they apshyproached their project II After they came up the first time they brought another group of guys up to take a look at it They told us they wanted everyone in their office to see this beshy
cause this is the way they like to see an airshyplane and the supshyporting paperwork done Seems like theres a lesson for the rest of us in there somewhere
Ronnie Cox said The Comanche is a great airplane but like all airplanes if it needs extensive work it can be really expensive if you dont do it yourshyself Theres an old
saying about Piper products Made by farmers for farmers and its true The airplane is really easy to work on but the best thing you can do is make sure you get a good airplane in the first place
Cox has a number of pOints that he said every wannabe Comanche owner should satisfy before he or she buys a particular airplane Besides the normal over-all condition stuff that affects every airplane there are some specifics which include
bull AD list and compliance-Undershystand what airworthiness directives affect the airplane and make sure they were actually done
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bull Gear-up damage-Gear-up landshyings often crush the structure that the gear motor is attached to Make sure it was repaired properly
bull Flap track condition-The flap tracks wear and need to be carefully checked
bull Flap motor-The flap actuation system and especially the motor have to be checked for condition
The CoxDavis Comanche has more than 200 hours on it now and its owners (or should they be called creators) say it does exactly what they wanted it to do It lets them go long distances in comfort and they have the peace of mind that comes from knowing everything within that airplane was done right
CHAMPION 7ED7FC Ownerpilot Mike Foote (VAA 365457) wrote to us concerning his terrific restoration IIManufactured by Champion Aircraft in 1959 N8539E began life as a Tri-Champ In 1983 it was convelted to a taidragshy
gerl but only 12 short flight hours later life changed dramatically for N8539E when it was severely damaged in a windstorm The ownerls initial impression was that it would never fly again The remains went through several owners each intent upon restorationl but finding the task a daunting onel each chose instead to pass it along to someone else with more ambition My tum came in July of1995 After 15 months ofintense restoration efforts N8539E became a plane again on October 261 1996 1 flew the plane from my home base in Olathel Kansas to Oshkosh in 1997 and had it judged in the Contemporary category My efforts were rewardedl as the Champion was selected as the Outstanding Champion aircraft for that year It is still going strong and is just as satisfying to fly today as it was for the first time II
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Chet Peek (VAA 13458) author of terrific books such as The First Cub and Resurrection ofa Jenny has gotshyten back into flying after losing his airplanes and Norman Oklahoma hangar during a tornado in 1998 Chefs bought Bruce Bixlers Taylorshycraft DC-65 This DC-65 is one of the rare early Taylorcraft Tandems which had aluminum spars and ribs A few in the same series became the first Taylorcraft L-2 liaison airplanes Chefs airplane is finished in the Civilian Training Programs colors of blue and yellow
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September Mystery Plane
by HG Frautschy
This months Mystery Plane is a rare metal plane from the collection of Pete Bowers
Send your answer to EAA Vinshytage Airp lane PO Box 3086 Oshkosh WI 54903-3086 Your anshyswer needs to be in no later than October 15 for inclusion in the Deshycember issue of Vintage Airplane
You can also send your response via e-m ail Send your answer to vintageeaaorg
Be sure to include both your name and address (especially your city and state) in the body of your not e and put (Month) Mystery Plane in the subject line
Plenty of you knew the June Mysshytery Plane surely one of those Don t you wish there was just one of th ese left kind of airplanes Heres our first letter
The Mystery Plane in the June 2001 edition of Vintage Airplane is an Ireshyland N-2 Neptune
Ireland N-2 Nep
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G Sumner Ireland had been an engineer for Curtiss up to 1926 He later formed Ireland Aircraft Inc at Curshytiss Field Garden City and marketed th e Ireland Comet Meteor Privateer and Neptune Th e N-2B Neptune (circa 1927) was a four-pla ce amphibian powshyered by a 300-hp Wright J-6 while the N-2C Nepshytun e was a fiv e-place amphibian with a 450-hp PampWWasp
Thomas H Lymburn Princeton Minnesota
And more on the various models of the Neptune
The June Mystery Plane is the Amshyphibians Incorporated Model N-2B or N-2C with either PampW Wa sp engine or the Wright Whirlwind 300 in the five- or six-place amphibian Modificashytions from the Ireland A ircraft Inc Model ND5-ND6 include strut covers and increased bow angle on the tip floats and an extended main hull float behind the step The three views are from the Aircraft Yearbook 3- View
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Drawings 1903-1946 Russ Brown Lyndhurst Ohio
With Juptn ers U S Civil A ircraft this one didn t take long to idenshytify Vol 2 p ages 151-153 for ATC 153 des cribes th e Ireland Neptun e N-2B With enough clarity in th e photo to note the license as NC-88K its listed as L ____v
production number 43
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and had a 300-hp Wright J-6 engine (affirmed by the long rocker-box eavshyers) (Abo ut this time some models were being upgraded with a 450 PampW Wasp for the model N-2C-ATC 248)
Ive always been very appreciative of Joe Juptners good coverage of all the ATCd US aircraft Over the years Ive been building scale models of more obshyscure aircraft as a hobby Ive drawn many of my plans from photos and dishymensions in US Civil Aircraft In fact I have a plan I drew for the Nepshytune N-2C though Ive not built it yet Thats why I recognized the June Mysshytery plane was a Neptune I lived in Ecuador for about 45 years and made most of the models of jungle hardshywoods in 1 32 scale
Bub Borman Dallas Texas
Junes Mystery Plane was easy It is Irelands Neptune NC-89K shown on page 143 of us Civil Aircraft Vol 3
by Juptner Both pictures were probably taken the same day Note the man at left in both pictures same suit hat and tie Note the taped wire or tube on left wing forward strut
Excuse this old typewriter Im 81 and darned ifIll get a new one now
Good magazine good association good people Thanks
Albert B Aplin Chuluota Florida
Ju st a note to say I think the Jun e Mystery Plane is one of the Ireland Airshycraft Inc Neptune series
G Sumner Irelands ideas on flying boats pre-date this N-2C version by several years so the name was not new to aviation
Th e N-2C for the June issue was one of about nine built in late 1929 and the early 1930s
It was powered by a 450-hp Pratt amp Whitn ey Wasp and had a chromoly frame around which were bulkheads of duralumin to which were fastened
formers and then the outer aluminum skin
Hope this entry will serve to put me in the winners circle But then you always are when you join the V AA
John Kennelley Norwalk Iowa
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Feedback on Loose Fabric
Weve gotten plenty of comshyments about the article concerning bulging fabric While it wasnt part of my column originally many of you have addressed your comments to me so Ill check in on the freshyquency
Before we get to that Id like to update you on the status of our Champ airworthiness directive compliance It went fine as you may recall reading in my July colshyumn but a funny thing happened after flying a bit in the rain-the paint we sprayed over the patches has started to come off Dang Usshying MEK I thought Id completely removed the lemon-scented furnishyture polish I use regularly to clean the leading edges but I guess I was wrong The paint on the leading edges is beginning to peel HG and I wonder if they put any silishycone in the polish Doesnt say so on the can but maybe its a secret ingredient The peeling paint makes the new name (see photo on page 26) for the Champ even more accurate
Lets get on with the loose fabric discussion
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First loose fabric is a hazard for a couple of reasons Loose fabric can chafe against fairing strips and fasshyteners weakening it If a fabric edge is caught in the slipstream it can easily be torn away The results can be disastrous If it gets tangled up with a control surface it can even cause a loss of control and at the very least the loose wildly flapping fabric can be a huge distraction Heres what some others had to say I cant say I agree with everyones comments but it certainly is intershyesting to see how fabrics are being applied in shops around the world Heres our first note
You must have received a lot of comments about the Stinsons bulging fabric Ill give you my 2~ worth
Ive re-covered at least four during the past 45 years and dozens of reshycovering jobs on many types of aircraft Ive used cotton Irish linen Ceconite Razorback and Stits Im sticking with Ceconite 101 which [ like best I like the smell of dope beshysides all the other good features
When I tighten Ceconite I set my iron at 400degF to 450degF ] do the initial
tightening with a heat gun Then] work it with the iron evenly until] can feel the right tautness Thats just the right drumming sound and feel After the first coat ofprimer nishytrate dope there may be a few slack areas I then go over them again but never holding the iron in one place very long
Every Stinson I re-covered had screws on the four stringers on top of the fuselage from the windshield back about 3 or 4 feet spaced 3 or 4 inches apart ] just looked at three Stinsons on our flight line and they all have the screws
Don Macor Duluth Minnesota
Dons method might work well for him but Id hesitate to suggest it to anyone else In particular the use of a heat gun is prohibited in the Poly-Fiber and other process manuals that deal with the installashytion of Dacron fabric Uneven heat application is the reason it is disshycouraged Id also point out that the Cooper Superflight manual among others highlights the fact that Dacron fabric will start to m~lt
when heated above 450degF Thats why Don says he does not linger too long when shrinking the fabric with an iron set above 400degF
I just received my July issue of Vinshytage Airplane I always look forward to its arriva l That cover photo of the Stearman is beautiful Hats off to Jim Koepnick who does such a great job ofphotographing these old planes
I was drawn to the article on page 4 Is that Covering too Slack I have an uncovered Stinson 108-3 sitting in my garage so perhaps I can shed some light on some of the details about covshyering the Stinson 108 series In the article someone said Id be tempted to rib-stitch the fabric to the upper stringers on the fuselage Id suggest avoiding that temptation The Stinson used 4 PK screws to attach the fabric to the ribs and to the stringers above the fuselage I know because I have a coffee can with hundreds of these screws that I removed from my plane Above the fuselage there are four hatshysection aluminum stringers On my Stinson the fabric was attached to each of these stringers with 10 PK screws at 3-inch intervals beginning aft of the leading edge and running back just aft of the rear spar I believe thats how it was done originally I would not suggest rib-stitching beshycause the sharp edges of the hat-section stringers would cut the lacing And of course there is the matter of legality Rib-stitching would be a modification from the original construction certainly not appropriate in this situation
The photo on page 5 shows apparshyent ballooning of the fabric over the cabin area of the fuselage but theres more to this than meets the eye At the Stinson factory a blanket of fibershyglass insulation was installed above the cabin Old photos show this insushylation installed above the stringers I believe the fabric was then attached through the insulation to the stringers with the PK screws That puffy look above the cabin may be caused (at least in part) by the insulation Ive
We had a couple of folks ask if we could show a comparison shot highlighting loose fabric with the Stinson as an example In 1999 EAAs crack photo staff took air-to-air photos of a couple of Stinsons The top photo shows the fabric ballooning above the cabin In the lower photo the airplane restored by noted Stinson 108 rebuilder Butch Walsh of Arrington Virginia clearly shows the 4 PK (Parker-Kalon) screws that secure the fabric to the cabin roof stringers before the finishing tapes are applied
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discussion Im sure there are others out there who know more about this than I do Id enjoy hearing from anyshyone interes ted in Stinsons I have a website that I call Hangar 9 Aeroworks It features my project and other information on the 108-series Stinsons The URL is wwwhangar9 aeroworkscom
John Baker Damascus Maryland
Dip and HG were the first to agree with the members who wrote and called in to take them to ta sk for not confirming the exact method of attachment used by Stinson The intent of the original write-up was not to compos e a Stinson maintenance manual but to highlight the hazards inherent in any fabric job that is not propshyerly installed Our comments were meant to elicit a response from the membership in cluding expe rts like Butch Walsh Boy did they ever respond
Each of us is required to confirm the exact methods us ed by the manufacturer or subsequently apshyproved modifications and to scrupulously duplicate those methshyods The type certificate drawings and other information are often
seen Stinsons with the original type insulation that had the puffy look while sitting quietly on the ground
Dip Davis is correct that the Stinshyson did not originally cover the tanks on the 108s though Ive seen many restorations with the tanks covered There can be a bit of a problem with fabric tapes not adhering well to the perimeter of the tanks In fact I had a few tapes come loose once on a trip to EAA Chapter 643 s fl y-in at Pittstown New Jersey in 1993 A litshytle contact cem ent and some help from Chapter 643 got me back home okay Shortly after that I decided it was time for a complete re-cover job
Here s one more item about balshylooning fabric on the Stinson 108s that I learned from Stinson guru Butch Walsh The cabin fresh air intakes are on the leading edge of th e wing (as shown on page 17 of th e March issue of Vintage Airplane) Th ese vents feed into a chamber inside the inboard rib bay This chamber is not sealed very well so forced air spills out into the wing as well as into the cabin Taking care to seal this chamshyber can eliminate some problems with fabric on the inboard portion of th e wing and will provide more fresh air in the cabin
I hope this will contribute to the
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After we compiled with AD 2000shy25-02 the Champ looked a bit more shop-worn so we gave it a new name
available from the type club for your particular model
Dont blindly follow the lead of someone who may have restored the airplane in the past-they ma y have missed something that is required How many times have you seen a poorly placed inspection hole only to hear II But that was the way it was inshystalled on the airplane when I got it I Only the factory drawings and any supplemental type certifishy
cates (STC) or other approved modifications can change the aircrafts legal configushyration and the method of fabric installation is part of that configushyration
As both HG and I have pOinted out in the past the covering supshypliers have specific instructions on how their covering methods are to be installed Since covering with the Poly-Fiber Cooper Superflight Ai r-Tech or other processes were not included in the type certificate for the airplanes that we were dealshying with here an STC for their installation was obtained by the resp ective companies If their method is not followed you run the risk of having the covering job re jected by an IA (AampP with inshyspection authorization) mechanic andor the FAA for not conformshying to the STC If an STCd part is installed on an aircraft and the methods spelled out in the STC are not followed the aircraft is unshyairworthy Un-airworthy aircraft dont have very good resale values and besides you can t fly them And thats the point of all of this right Let s get out there do it right and fly safely
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back onto the plane nothing could save her
Below the crowd of five thousand people looked on for a while uncomshyprehendingly To them it was at present all part of the show but the personnel of the Circus and the other practical aviators on the ground realshyized only too well the tragedy that was threatening Orders rang out sharp and decisive and half-a-dozen planes took to the air circling vainly about the swinging girl in an atshytempt to solve the problem The onlookers began to understand that something was seriously amiss Planes of the type used-this one was equipped with a 180 hp Hisso motor-land at express speed Thirty miles an hour is the minimum which meant that Rosalie would be dashed to pieces and her body manshygled beneath the tailskid directly as the machine came down As it was the anxious Pangborn having swooped earthwards to let those beshylow see her predicament the helpless girl hung perilously near the rough ground
Plane after plane with men lying out along the wing surfaces knife in hand hoping to cut her loose if posshysible swept past Pangborns machine risking imminent collision All of them however failed as did the frantic efforts of Girton himself who crawled out onto the landing gear and for half an hour battled desshyperately to pull the girl up to a perch on the axle and comparative safety But a previous hour of daredevil stunts had weakened him and he found his strength insufficient for the task
Then it was that Thompson one of the would-be rescuers swooped ground wards with his plane Someshything white fluttered from his machine as he rose again with a roar An official picked the object up-a piece of cardboard on which was the scribbled message Send Freddy up with a rope Will pick him up He can help pull her Up
It was cryptic enough to the uninishytiated but those who knew realized
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that one of the most daring feats ever attempted was to be put into operation to save the apparently doomed girl
Presently Thompson came to earth and into his plane climbed Freddy Lund a former member of the Circus but now in commercial life Up toward Pangborns machine with that helpless figure dangling beshyneath it Thompsons aeroplane shot until it was flying close below Lund climbing out on the upper wing reached frantically up in an effort to grasp Rosalies feet in the hope that their combined weight would release the catch of the parachute and let them both down to safety But the bumpy rise and fall of the planes made the maneuver impossible and it was speedily evident that another and even more desperate method would have to be tried if the girl was to be saved
Instinctively Pangborn and Thompson read what was in one anshyothers minds and soon the two machines were sailing side-by-side wing almost touching wing Then Lund swung himself down a stage lower and the crowd below gasped Hundreds of binoculars showed what was to be attempted and men and women sank on their knees and prayed openly that the fearless men aloft might be able to carry out their purpose
Just when it seemed that the two machines must become locked in a death grip which would send both of them hurtling to destruction Lund stretched out a hand grasped a strut on Pangborns plane and leapt across the gulf For an instant he swayed slid almost fell and then a great shout went up Hes done it Hes done it
It was a wonderful effort Usually this change from plane to plane pershyilous enough at the best of times is only attempted with nonskid strips on the wings and rubber shoes on the feet of the aviator Lund made it with slippery leather-soled boots on wings like shining glass
Only he knew how near he was to failure as a matter of fact his feet slid away beneath him but he clung to the strut with all his strength and so saved himself A white-faced man down below dropped his field glasses and gasped
Its a miracle he said solemnly But the rescue was far from being
accomplished yet Recovering himshyself Lund scrambled into the cockpit and then out of that and down onto the landing gear where Girton was still continuing his vain efforts to haul the girl up Together they heaved and strained at the rope but it was quickly seen from below that their combined efforts were inshysufficient and a groan broke from the crowd when Lund was seen laboshyriously climbing back into the cockpit
Theyve failed Theyve failed The cry went up
It certainly seemed so and matshyters looked grave for the anxious officials of the Circus knew that the sands of time were fast running out in another direction The petrol supshyply carried by the plane was limited Once it was exhausted and landing was imperative in which case nothshying could save the girl if she remained in her present position Many of the offiCials in fact were convinced that she was as good as dead already
Not so Pangborn and Lund how-
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After the ordeal Rosalie Gordon is seen in the centre with Lund who rescued her on the right The two other aviators are Pangborn and Thompson
came to earth in perfect fashion The onlookers released from the
restraint of their pent-up emotions at once surged wildly forward on to the ground but mounted attendants and armed police drove them back and an ambulance came dashing up with screeching horn
From underneath the plane crawled three disheveled but almost unhurt figures The two aviators had taken the slight shock of a perfect landing on their broad backs and they rose to their feet stiffly specks of blood on their faces and wrists from cuts caused by the rope from which Rosalie Gordon had been susshypended Daredevil flyers though they were both they and Pangborn showed the strain of the last halfshyhour All of them were white-faced and trembling
I was afraid the petrol would give out said Pangborn I kept circling over a little lake out there I thought that if we were forced to land it would be better than the ground
He walked over and measured the spirit in his tank and his face was eloquent He had just three minutes supply left
At first the little actress laughed hysterically but when a friend Esshyther Gray rushed up to her and embraced her she broke down and cried
So ended one of the biggest thrills and one of the finest exhibitions of heroism in the history of aviation Few flying men possess sufficient skill to carry out the work of the resshycue accomplished by Pangborn Lund and Girton-fewer still pershyhaps would have had the courage to attempt it
Seven years later Clyde Pangborn would be world famous for being the pilot on the first nonstop crossshying of the Pacific but in 1924 his cool head helped save a young lady parachutist from certain death
ever A few shouted words between them and then Lund took over the controls while Pangborn descended the frail under-rigging supports and joined the indefatigable Girton on the landing gear
Pangborn was slight of build but marvelously strong an open-air life and constant exercise had given him sinews of steel Crooking one leg over the axle and hanging on with one hand he slipped the other foot down and got a toehold under the girls belt Immediately she clasped him round the leg and with Girton carrying out a similar maneuver she was slowly raised until both men could reach her with their free hands A mighty heave and they hauled her into comparative safety on the axle-a wooden crosspiece three inches wide between the landshying wheels One says comparative safety advisedly There was little more than three feet of clearance beshytween the axle and the base of the plane and it was still a tossup whether through the give of the springs in landing anyone on the axle would not be crushed It was a risk that had to be taken however
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for nothing more could be done Once more Pangborn changed
places with Lund while Miss Gorshydon clung to the axle in a half-fainting condition Considering the fearful mental strain she had unshydergone her demeanor had been admirable she had followed the mens attempts to rescue her coolly and intelligently and had done everything she could to help them It was no wonder that the reaction was now making itself felt
Unfamiliar as he was with the controls of the plane Lund preferred the more dangerous job of holding Miss Gordon on the landing gear to the task of attempting to land So (swarming down) he took his placed beside her while the pilot dropped earthward in slow wide circles
The management fearing an accishydent when the landing was made sent a motorcar out onto the field in case the three people clinging to the gear might prefer to try and drop into it as it ran along under the plane Pangborn however perhaps wisely preferred the risks of a regushylar landing and in a final long swoop he swept over the grass and
MOST AVIATORS VIVIDLY REMEMBER
THEIR FIRST AIRPLANE RIDE AND CHERISH
THAT FOND MEMORY
AND THOSE OF US WHO HAVE BEEN
FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO OWN OUR OWN
AIRPLANE REMEMBER THAT IN VIVID
DETAIL AS WELL By Ev CASSAGNERES
We remember how we found it and the details of that first step in our aviation
life Perhaps that purchase was made under unique circumstances not simply by writing a check You may find the story of my first airplane similar to yours you may find it just plain interesting or you may be startshying that search
This story begins shortly after Aushygust 141945 V] Day the end of World War II On September 27 that same year I applied for and was hired as a line boy for Reynolds Flying Service at the New Haven Municipal Airport near New Haven Connecticut
I was in high school (Hillhouse High) at that time and would ride my
bull Irs
bicycle to school every day rain snow or shine Then to get to work after school I rode it to the airport I did all the dirty work sweeping out the hangar and shop gassing and oilshying airplanes and washing and hand-propping airplanes when necesshysary Some were as big as Pratt amp Whitney R-985s I also helped out in the shop with repairs rib stitching and doping
Later that month I was on a bus ridshying from New Haven to my home in Westville a suburb of New Haven As we headed out Edgewood Avenue I happened to look out the window on the right side and nearly went nuts with excitement at what I saw It was in the yard of the Acme Auto Top Company
As soon as I got home I jumped onto my bicycle and rode back to see that airplane at Acme When [ met the owner Steve he said he wanted to sell it for $80 He showed me the wings tail surfaces and prop which were inshyside the building
The airplane was a 1929 Comshymand-Aire 3C-3T serial number 614 registration number NC901E It had a Curtiss OX-5 engine serial number 2116
The wings had silver fabric the
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fuselage was red and the tail surshyfaces were silver I was absolutely thrilled to just touch it I was only 17 years old and wondered how in the world I would ever come up with $80 for the airplane It was beautiful even though it most likely needed a complete rebuild to airshyworthy condition As partial payment for my work as a line boy I had been taking dual instruction in a Piper J-3C65 I wondered if I could even fly this airplane
At about this time I was also getshyting into serious bicycle racing through my friend Phil Kittredge who was already the Connecticut State Junior Champion He was not a pilot but agreed to be a partner in this endeavor Between us we came up with $15 as a down payment which we gave to Steve with a promise to get the rest as soon as we could
I went to work setting pins in loshycal bowling alleys and did some caddying at Yale Golf Course near where I lived both good jobs for a teenager at that time Phil and I
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These two shots are from the collection of Shelby Hagberg and are of the very ship forshymerly owned by then 17-yearshyold Ev Cassagneres Its a 1929 Command-Aire 3C-3T NC901 E serial number 614 Taken at Curtiss Field on Long Island New York The airplane was painted with silver wings and horizontal tail surface and a red fuselage and rudder
could not seem to raise enough cash to satisfy the airplane owner so we lost out on the deal and he kept the 15 bucks Of course we were devastated
In the meantime a local affluent gentleman who also collected anshytique automobiles managed to purchase the Command-Aire He had it moved out in the country in the town of Bethany It sat there out in a field with the wings laid out in the grass of an open field deterioratshying in the elements Occasionally I would cycle out there to look at it touch it and dream or fantasize
On January 21 1946 the new owner who knew who I was and that I was interested in the airplane called me and asked if I was still inshyterested He said he would sell it on a trade basis Needless to say I would come up with something
I happened to have a French-built Automoto bicycle that I was quite fond of but would be willing to part with It was worth about $80 so we did an even swap Now I had to find a place to put it and figure out a way
to get it home about 5 miles My friend Phil came to the rescue
again You see my own parents never did own a car or have drivers licenses Phil had the use of his fashythers 1937 Plymouth four-door car So we tied the tailskid in the trunk with clothesline rope and put the wings on the roof secured with ropes tied all over the place
We started out to drive the 5 miles to my house in Westville Well two young sporty guys couldshynt just go straight there and that would be that could they We realshyized that the local high school was due out at 230 in the afternoon So we just happened to detour with all of this interesting cargo over some hills to the school and we got there just as the students were getshyting out Many we knew and of course we directed our attention mainly to the girls So whats the story they would ask and that was all we needed We ahem had just flown down from some exotic place in northern Canada and planned on rebuilding the airplane for some other exotic adventure It was amazshying how convincing we could be and how gullible they were We did all of this while wearing an old pair of gogshygles and a helmet and with mischievous faces they still believed us so we let it go at that We laughed all the way home
The airplane sat in my backyard the rest of the winter as I worked on it although I really did not know what I was doing I did get the enshygine running a couple of times The sound and smell was exciting like a concert orchestra to me My parents gave me a lot of encouragement and enjoyed my project
However my enthusiasm and fanshytasy of flight were not to last very long We lived on the third floor of a three-family house and the landlord was not at all happy over this kid having an airplane in the backyard of our neighborhood So it had to go What to do We did not own a car so no garage was available and I could not find any other suitable
This shot taken at Curtiss Field as well clearly shows the split-axle landing gear and Fokker Dvll-styled wing center section as designed by famed aero engineer Albert Voellmecke
place for it So the bottom line was simple-I had to sell it And I never even took a picture of it nor did any of the neighbors
A schoolmate of mine by the name of Billy Gilbert also a stushydent pilot showed some interest and he lived in the town of Bethany That town had a grass runway airport and it was one of the oldest airports in New Engshyland where supposedly American Airlines got started Famous aviashytors had flown out of there names such as Bert Acosta Clarence Chamberlin Guss Graff Jack Tweed Franklin T Hank Kurt Bob Noorduyn (Norseman) and Batch Pond (Pond Creams) (The Bethany airport managed to stay in existence until the early 1980s)
On May 291946 Billy Gilbert came to the house with a farm rack truck and $30 loaded up the airshyplane and drove away That was the last time I saw it as r stood there and cried However I had hidden the propeller in our basement and still
have it as a memento in addition to a section of wing fabric with the black number NC901E on it
So what became of that old airshyplane Billy wen t into the Navy and his parents eventually sold the ship to a local junk and scrap dealer who was mainly interested in the OX engine That was the end of it I searched many years later but it was gone
Years later I came across many Command-Aire photographs and the ones shown with this article are all I have of that fond memory
Sometime after that I owned a 1941 Waco UPF-7 which I made my first dollar with by towing signs allover the place out of the Bethany airport and then a 1936 Ryan ST and now I have a 1953 Cessna 170B which I fly often (my first closed-in type)
Sometimes for old times sake r will fly the 170 with helmet and goggles and white scarf and the winshydows open See one never loses the thrill of real flight
In closing I can say that if one wants to fly bad enough one will find a way It is a healthy disease that can be most appreciated as you feel the wind in your face up in the air over our beautiful countryside
What else do I do now for fun My new book The Untold Story of The Spirit Of St Louis will be out next year 2002 the 75th annivershysary of Lindberghs epic flight This book has been a labor of love for decades and it will be published by Historic Aviation Books
When that is done I plan to write the history of Command-Aire and also some Connecticut aviation hisshytory In particular Im going to document the stories of the Cairns airplane the Kimball Beetle sevenshycylinder aircraft radial engine the Scorpion aircraft engine the Bristol gliders that were manufactured on Edgewood Avenue near the Acme Auto Top Company (see story) and the Bourdon- and Viking-built Kitty Hawk airplanes
After that I may retire
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 11
TYPE CLUB
Some Thoughts on Restoration and Airworthiness Originally appeared in Waco World News Vol I No 36 MaylJune 2001
by Robert G Lock
Restoring an airplane is a lot like flying-hours and hours of someshytimes boring work separated by a few moments of stark terror As one approaches the end of a restoration project there comes a time for certishyfication by the FAA unless the airplane has a permanent airworthishyness certificate Receiving that all-important permanent standard airworthiness certificate is the final objective This article will give some background on past certification procedures especially for airplanes that go back to the beginning of government rules and regulations
Governments entry into aviashytion essentially began with the creation of the Aeronautics Branch of the Department of Commerce Near the top of the agenda of the new bureaucracy was the certificatshying of airplanes pilots and eventually mechanics Approved type certificates (ATC) began in March 1927 and continue to this day Registration numbers were reshyquired and were painted on the wings and tail The Roman capital letter N denoting registration in the United States followed by the letter C for commercial X for
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experimental R for restricted and L for limited were adopted Design requirements needed for an ATC were contained in Aeronautics Bulletin 7 later 7A ATCs were numshybered sequentia lly beginning with 1 and ending with 817 (a new ATC numbering system was introduced after number 817) The certificating of pilots and later mechanics closely followed as the government tried to regulate the beginning of the aviation industry
Obtaining an ATC to manufacshyture and sell an airplane was costly even in the early days Group 2 apshyprovals were awarded to a person or company when only a limited numshyber of aircraft were to be built either as a new design or as a modification of an existing airplane being manushyfactured under an ATe The Group 2 approvals were cheaper and easier to obtain but design and manufacshyture were equiva lent to approved type cert ificates
An important item to remember is that if an airplane was designed to Aeronautics Bulletin 7 or 7A it still must meet those requirements toshyday So for some restorers a copy of this manual is helpful
Another bit of information critishycal to certification is that there were no permanent airworthiness certifishycates in the old days A representative of the government re -certificated the airplane annushyally and a new airworthiness certificate was issued The papershywork f i le in Washington DC became immense There was a file folder for each registered aircraft and all hard copy paperwork was meticulously maintained Even telegrams were retained
Each file folder was a complete diary of the airplane from owners to inspections and repairs Some of this data is available today on mishycrofiche For most all aircraft the original hard copy files have been placed on microfiche and then the hard copy fi les were destroyed I have seen original files that are still stored in Suitland Maryland Most of those files are not on microfiche
ATC data is also known as type design data Type design data can be found in the Aircraft Listing Enshygine Listing and Prope ll er Listing (for fewer than SO airp lanes regisshytered) and in the Aircraft Engine and Propeller Specification Sheets
for the middle-aged aircraft For airplanes of this vintage this
is the only source of data for the reshystorer If youre really lucky there may be copies of original factory drawings available as a valuable supplement However most of the factory drawings for many antique aircraft have been destroyed Fortushynately for Waco restorers factory drawings are available Drawings are invaluable when restoring old airplanes I searched for the Comshymand-Aire drawings but determined that they had all been destroyed However in my search I did locate some valuable type deshysign data from a most unusual source which might be fuel for anshyother story
In the mid 1930s the aviation inshydustry continued to grow By an act of Congress the government creshyated the Civil Aeronautics Administration (CAA) The CAA took regulations created by the Aeronautics Branch of the Departshyment of Commerce and expanded its bureaucratic role in aviation It created Civil Aviation Regulations (CAR) and Civil Aviation Manuals (CAM) Requirements of approved type were now contained in the CARs CAR 3 was certification for small aircraft Also to appear was the mechanics bible CAM 18 which spelled out requirements for major repairs to aircraft This publishycation evolved into the present FAA Advisory Circulars AC4313-1B andshy2B which give data on major repairs and alterations
The annual re-certificating of airshycraft was still required and a new airworthiness certificate was given to the owner after the airplane was approved for return to service As the workload increased a new method of certificating was created DeSignated aircraft maintenance inshyspectors (DAM I) were selected to take over the re-certificating duties These were well-experienced airshy
craft and engine (AampE) mechanics that were hand selected by local CAA maintenance inspectors The airworthiness certificate was still isshysued every year but in the mid-1950s about the time that the Federal Aviation Agency (FAA) came to power things began to change for airworthiness certificates They became permanent The aircraft could be re-certificated every year by a DAMI and later by an FAA airshyframe and powerplant (AampP) mechanic who holds an inspection authorization (IA) So today the AampP with IA can return to service annual inspections many major reshypairs and some major alterations
Congress created the Federal Avishyation Agency in 1958 Soon after the word II Agency was dropped in favor of II Administration And government control and bureaushycracy continued to grow ever larger
While we are on the subject of the FAA perhaps an easy method to distinguish differences between mashyjor repairs and major alterations is to apply the following
If the repair returns the aircraft to its original type certificate afshyfects airworthiness and cannot be done using elementary techniques then it is a major repair
If the repair (or modification) alshyters conformity to the original type design data then it is a major alteration
If an AampP mechanic cannot apshyprove a major repair or major alteration then a field approval by an FAA maintenance inspector must be obtained Sometimes this is more complicated than can be imagined Maybe a future story on FAA field approvals would prove inshyteresting
If an aircraft has never had a pershymanent airworthiness certificate then one must be obtained Here again the FAA issues this certifishycate To obtain that treasured piece of paper you must fill out an applishy
cation and prove that the airplane conforms to its type certificate Sometimes this is very difficult Esshypecially if the original type design data is incomplete or missing I have seen file cabinets in FAA headshyquarters with drawers containing type design data Just like Joe Juptshyners US Civil Aircraft books each drawer had a folder with the ATC number on top Some of the folders contained data while some were empty When the folder was empty the FAA had no type design data other than data that was published in Aircraft Engine and Propeller Listing which is not very much
For the coveted permanent airshyworthiness certificate an FAA representative will conduct a conshyformity inspection The basis for the inspection could be one or more of the following FAA Airshycraft Engine and Propeller Listing or Specification Sheets microfiche of original aircraft records containshying airworthiness and registration data factory drawings (if available) and aircraft and engine operating limitations
In addition current weight and balance calculations with critical forward and aft loading (if reshyquired) a loading schedule (if required) and appropriate placardshying must be included A list of required optional and special equipment must accompany the weight and balance data And lastly FAA Form 337 (Major Repair amp Mashyjor Alteration) must be completed by the supervising AampPIA Aircraft and engine logbooks must have apshypropriate entries made and registration data must be shown After many months (or should I say years) of restoration work perhaps that small piece of paper that says PERMANENT AIRWORTHINESS CERTIFICATE-STANDARD is now in your hand Categories of the airshyworthiness certificate are NORMAL UTILITY and ACROBATIC
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Mike Sleineke
Yeah well just strip it and paint it
Shouldnt take more than a month Thats what Ronnie Cox and Greg Davis of Ft Lauderdale Florida said about their 1962 250 Comanche
Sound familiar That kind of comshyment is right up there with Well just clean up a few of the instrushyments or Gee wouldnt it look better with a new windshield
Not once in the history of vinshytage con tern porary airplanes has anyone
1 Removed just one part painted it and put it right back on without removing a bunch more first
2 Started to do just one restoration operation eg re-bush the landing gear and done only that one thing
3 Taken an engine off overhauled it and put it back on without redoshying everything in sight
4 Reupholstered just the front seats and stopped there
You get the picture Airplanes are a lot like tar babies and once you get
your fingers into them they generally suck you in right up to your navel and don t let you go until theres nothing left to do
Ronnie and Greg were both lookshying for a serious cross-country airplane they could use to run from Florida up to Ronnies summer house in the Michigan islands Ronnie had owned three Comanches in the past so that was his bird of choice For Greg it would be his first airplane ownership
Ronnie had a long history of airshyplane ownership and involvement because his dad was heavily involved in aircraft and used to fly him all over the country Plus he owned a long string of airplanes including a PT-19 and a bunch of Pipers including Tri-Pacers Pacers and such
Ronnie started flying while he was still based in Ohio in the 1960s
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The 2S0-hp six-cylinder Lycoming gives the Comanche Bonanza-rivaling speed (a cruise of 161 to 181 mph) and a useful load carrying capacity of up to 1200 pounds
Updated radios and a refurbished interior make the Comanche a comfortable cross-country speedster
and his wife and son learned to fly from the same CFI who taught both his father and him to fly
Cox an elecshytrical engineer by training had started his own enshygineering business years ago and even worked a Seneca II into it for corposhyrate transportation so by the time the 1962 Comanche entered thei r lives he had 5500 hours of flying time He recently sought a change in career and sold his business to fly for a comshymuter airline
Ronnie also had a business buildshying engines for drag racers that Greg said really helped because Ronshynie just has a feel for what has to be done to a machine mechanically to make it right
Cox enjoyed rebuilding airplanes almost from the beginning and his total restoration of a Cessna 140 won a Lindy Award as recognition that he was a hands-on kind of guy who farmed out as little of his airplane reshybuilding projects as possible However it was in looking for a little help while his son and he were reshybuilding his sons Cessna 120 (which also won a Lindy) that he met Greg Davis
We needed to have some alushyminum bent to make up a new spar doubler for the 120 Ronnie said and someone suggested we contact
this guy on the other side of the field Ronnie
laughed when he said this inshydicating something was coming We walked in with the original
doubler in our hand which was a litshytle crude and showed it to Greg This
was the first time Id laid eyes on him Ronnie said
He looked at the doubler threw it down and said No I cant make something like this I thought he was joking or something Then he said If I make it itll be better than that Greg can be a little cantankerous and Ronnie Cox laughed again
Greg Davis has run Davis Aircraft Services in Ft Lauderdale since 1985 and he specializes in doing structural repairs on corporate airplanes As such he has developed both the facilshyity and ability to do practically anything with sheet metal So beshytween Ronnies mechanical ability and Gregs feeling for sheet metal there was practically nothing they couldnt do to a little airplane
I had been part of an RV-4 buildshying project but got out of it because I was just too busy flying a friends Pitts S-2B Greg explained He said I could fly it as much as I wanted so I started competing and between that and work I didnt really have the time to own my own airplane
There was something about the chemistry between the two men that prompted them to want a cross-counshy
try airplane that could carry two guys 120 gallons of gas and our bagshygage Enter the Comanche
They ran into the airplane in Aushygust 1992 and it was a really sad example of the breed but the price was right and the sheet metal looked good Also it had no corrosion
Then they started comparing the logbooks to the actual airplane and found that someone had a fanciful imagination when it came to the defishynition of airworthiness directive (AD) compliance The Comanche has a bunch of fairly serious and expenshysive ADs Ronnie pointed out Over the years someone had been signing off the ADs but not doing them As they put it the airplane had about 25 years of pencil maintenance
We found a perfect example of how well this airplane was mainshytained when we replaced the tires One of the tubes was dated 1962 and had been on the airplane since it was built Greg said
The airplane had also been landed gear-up at some point in its career Again the previous keepers of the logs didnt see fit to mention this litshytle incident There were a bunch of scab patches on the belly we had to get rid of and we put new gear doors on it
Their approach to the sheet metal was simple If a panel needed a repair they would just replace the panel We re-skinned part of the turtledeck
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WHAT OUR MEMBERS ARE RESTORING by HG Frautschy and Norm Petersen
AERONCA 7DC Sitting on the grass at Lee Bottom Airport near Louisville Kentucky Mark
and Wendie Paszkiewiczs (VAA 580997) 1946 Aeronca 7DC is ready for a flight in the warm hazy skies along the Ohio River First delivered as a 7 AC to a Phoenix Arizona flight school in 1946 with the installation of a Conshytinental 85-hp engine it became an Aeronca 7De Partially restored when they bought the project Mark and Wendie couldnt resist rebuilding some parts Now they fly the Champ around to local fly-ins and just have fun in it after work
CHAMPION 7GCB Posed in the afternoon sunshine of Sky
Harbor Airport in Duluth Minnesota is a beautiful 1962 Champion 7GCB N9912Y serial number 7GCB-133 mounted on an immaculate set of PKshy1800 floats Recently re-covered and painted by veteran mechanic Don Macor (VAA 28788) of Duluth Minnesota this particular aircraft is quite rare in that it has only 706 hours total time on airframe and engine has a factory original outside baggage compartment door and is one of only six 7GCBs remaining on the US Register In addition during its entire 39shyyear lifespan only one authorized inspectors name is in the aircraft logshybooks-Don Macor Don reports the airframe was in very good shape with only minor surface rust on a few places The covering is Ceconite 101 with bushytyrate dope in Daytona white Miami blue and black trim Note the seaplane auxiliary fins on the stabilizers necessary with the added mass of the floats ahead of the CG
Unusual to this model of 150 hp Champion is the outside baggage door on the right side of the fuselage seen here in the open position and ready for access to the baggage compartment
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because we removed the beacon It takes alshymost as long to patch the hole correctly as it does to replace the enshytire panel and then you dont have that ugly patch up there
The same thing held true for the cowlshying which they say is a weak point in a Coshymanche Building a new one consumed an enormous amount of time
Comanche control surfaces are reshyally thin mostly 016 and 020 so it doesnt take much to bend them up This airplane had apparently seen some hail that was heavy enough to dent the control surfaces but not the rest of the airplane so Greg said we re-skinned most of the control surfaces
Early in the project when the pair realized the airplane was going to take more than simply stripping and painting they decided on a specific goal We wanted to make it a truly modern airplane almost a new one so we could depend on it So we did everything but de-mate the wing We removed every single wire and sysshytem in the entire airplane and rebuilt every part of it according to Ronnie
When it came to the avionics Greg said it was really grungy It had Mark 12 radios in it and by the time we were done removing layers and layers of old wiring we took about SO pounds of wires out
Part of making it a modern airshyplane meant building reliability into everything ahead of the firewall We put a 260-hp exhaust system on it along with a lightweight starter new mags and most important we put a new fuel pump on it and had it flowshychecked Weve had some really tragic accidents in the Comanche community because the fuel pump was working but it wasnt putting out enough to feed the engine at takeoff power
According to the pair the landing
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gear is another area that needs careful examination because it wears out quickly We pulled every bushing and part of the gear and found that much of it was really sloppy This makes it hard to rig and contributes to gear collapses We dont know the history to our airplanes accident but that could have played a part
Naturally everything in the inteshyrior was replaced including a new panel with modern everything and they installed shoulder harnesses at the same time To keep their passenshygers happy they installed a small TV set with a VCR in the back seat They also installed a 14-inch thick big windshield and routed the edges down so it would fit flush into the original mounting channels
It took five years to get the airshyplane ready to fly and then it took another three months to get the pashyperwork completed We filed eight 337s and one field approval Because I do so many similar things with the corporate aircraft I just approached this one the same way Greg Davis said I filed them all through a DER (deSignated engineering representashytive) but rather than doing them locally I invited the FAA to come up and take a look at the airplane
They are obviously proud of the FAAs reaction to the way they apshyproached their project II After they came up the first time they brought another group of guys up to take a look at it They told us they wanted everyone in their office to see this beshy
cause this is the way they like to see an airshyplane and the supshyporting paperwork done Seems like theres a lesson for the rest of us in there somewhere
Ronnie Cox said The Comanche is a great airplane but like all airplanes if it needs extensive work it can be really expensive if you dont do it yourshyself Theres an old
saying about Piper products Made by farmers for farmers and its true The airplane is really easy to work on but the best thing you can do is make sure you get a good airplane in the first place
Cox has a number of pOints that he said every wannabe Comanche owner should satisfy before he or she buys a particular airplane Besides the normal over-all condition stuff that affects every airplane there are some specifics which include
bull AD list and compliance-Undershystand what airworthiness directives affect the airplane and make sure they were actually done
bull Gear condition-Look for cracked knuckles and measure as many internal dimensions as posshysible
bull Gear-up damage-Gear-up landshyings often crush the structure that the gear motor is attached to Make sure it was repaired properly
bull Flap track condition-The flap tracks wear and need to be carefully checked
bull Flap motor-The flap actuation system and especially the motor have to be checked for condition
The CoxDavis Comanche has more than 200 hours on it now and its owners (or should they be called creators) say it does exactly what they wanted it to do It lets them go long distances in comfort and they have the peace of mind that comes from knowing everything within that airplane was done right
CHAMPION 7ED7FC Ownerpilot Mike Foote (VAA 365457) wrote to us concerning his terrific restoration IIManufactured by Champion Aircraft in 1959 N8539E began life as a Tri-Champ In 1983 it was convelted to a taidragshy
gerl but only 12 short flight hours later life changed dramatically for N8539E when it was severely damaged in a windstorm The ownerls initial impression was that it would never fly again The remains went through several owners each intent upon restorationl but finding the task a daunting onel each chose instead to pass it along to someone else with more ambition My tum came in July of1995 After 15 months ofintense restoration efforts N8539E became a plane again on October 261 1996 1 flew the plane from my home base in Olathel Kansas to Oshkosh in 1997 and had it judged in the Contemporary category My efforts were rewardedl as the Champion was selected as the Outstanding Champion aircraft for that year It is still going strong and is just as satisfying to fly today as it was for the first time II
TAYLORCRAFf DC-65
Chet Peek (VAA 13458) author of terrific books such as The First Cub and Resurrection ofa Jenny has gotshyten back into flying after losing his airplanes and Norman Oklahoma hangar during a tornado in 1998 Chefs bought Bruce Bixlers Taylorshycraft DC-65 This DC-65 is one of the rare early Taylorcraft Tandems which had aluminum spars and ribs A few in the same series became the first Taylorcraft L-2 liaison airplanes Chefs airplane is finished in the Civilian Training Programs colors of blue and yellow
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September Mystery Plane
by HG Frautschy
This months Mystery Plane is a rare metal plane from the collection of Pete Bowers
Send your answer to EAA Vinshytage Airp lane PO Box 3086 Oshkosh WI 54903-3086 Your anshyswer needs to be in no later than October 15 for inclusion in the Deshycember issue of Vintage Airplane
You can also send your response via e-m ail Send your answer to vintageeaaorg
Be sure to include both your name and address (especially your city and state) in the body of your not e and put (Month) Mystery Plane in the subject line
Plenty of you knew the June Mysshytery Plane surely one of those Don t you wish there was just one of th ese left kind of airplanes Heres our first letter
The Mystery Plane in the June 2001 edition of Vintage Airplane is an Ireshyland N-2 Neptune
Ireland N-2 Nep
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G Sumner Ireland had been an engineer for Curtiss up to 1926 He later formed Ireland Aircraft Inc at Curshytiss Field Garden City and marketed th e Ireland Comet Meteor Privateer and Neptune Th e N-2B Neptune (circa 1927) was a four-pla ce amphibian powshyered by a 300-hp Wright J-6 while the N-2C Nepshytun e was a fiv e-place amphibian with a 450-hp PampWWasp
Thomas H Lymburn Princeton Minnesota
And more on the various models of the Neptune
The June Mystery Plane is the Amshyphibians Incorporated Model N-2B or N-2C with either PampW Wa sp engine or the Wright Whirlwind 300 in the five- or six-place amphibian Modificashytions from the Ireland A ircraft Inc Model ND5-ND6 include strut covers and increased bow angle on the tip floats and an extended main hull float behind the step The three views are from the Aircraft Yearbook 3- View
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Drawings 1903-1946 Russ Brown Lyndhurst Ohio
With Juptn ers U S Civil A ircraft this one didn t take long to idenshytify Vol 2 p ages 151-153 for ATC 153 des cribes th e Ireland Neptun e N-2B With enough clarity in th e photo to note the license as NC-88K its listed as L ____v
production number 43
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and had a 300-hp Wright J-6 engine (affirmed by the long rocker-box eavshyers) (Abo ut this time some models were being upgraded with a 450 PampW Wasp for the model N-2C-ATC 248)
Ive always been very appreciative of Joe Juptners good coverage of all the ATCd US aircraft Over the years Ive been building scale models of more obshyscure aircraft as a hobby Ive drawn many of my plans from photos and dishymensions in US Civil Aircraft In fact I have a plan I drew for the Nepshytune N-2C though Ive not built it yet Thats why I recognized the June Mysshytery plane was a Neptune I lived in Ecuador for about 45 years and made most of the models of jungle hardshywoods in 1 32 scale
Bub Borman Dallas Texas
Junes Mystery Plane was easy It is Irelands Neptune NC-89K shown on page 143 of us Civil Aircraft Vol 3
by Juptner Both pictures were probably taken the same day Note the man at left in both pictures same suit hat and tie Note the taped wire or tube on left wing forward strut
Excuse this old typewriter Im 81 and darned ifIll get a new one now
Good magazine good association good people Thanks
Albert B Aplin Chuluota Florida
Ju st a note to say I think the Jun e Mystery Plane is one of the Ireland Airshycraft Inc Neptune series
G Sumner Irelands ideas on flying boats pre-date this N-2C version by several years so the name was not new to aviation
Th e N-2C for the June issue was one of about nine built in late 1929 and the early 1930s
It was powered by a 450-hp Pratt amp Whitn ey Wasp and had a chromoly frame around which were bulkheads of duralumin to which were fastened
formers and then the outer aluminum skin
Hope this entry will serve to put me in the winners circle But then you always are when you join the V AA
John Kennelley Norwalk Iowa
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Feedback on Loose Fabric
Weve gotten plenty of comshyments about the article concerning bulging fabric While it wasnt part of my column originally many of you have addressed your comments to me so Ill check in on the freshyquency
Before we get to that Id like to update you on the status of our Champ airworthiness directive compliance It went fine as you may recall reading in my July colshyumn but a funny thing happened after flying a bit in the rain-the paint we sprayed over the patches has started to come off Dang Usshying MEK I thought Id completely removed the lemon-scented furnishyture polish I use regularly to clean the leading edges but I guess I was wrong The paint on the leading edges is beginning to peel HG and I wonder if they put any silishycone in the polish Doesnt say so on the can but maybe its a secret ingredient The peeling paint makes the new name (see photo on page 26) for the Champ even more accurate
Lets get on with the loose fabric discussion
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First loose fabric is a hazard for a couple of reasons Loose fabric can chafe against fairing strips and fasshyteners weakening it If a fabric edge is caught in the slipstream it can easily be torn away The results can be disastrous If it gets tangled up with a control surface it can even cause a loss of control and at the very least the loose wildly flapping fabric can be a huge distraction Heres what some others had to say I cant say I agree with everyones comments but it certainly is intershyesting to see how fabrics are being applied in shops around the world Heres our first note
You must have received a lot of comments about the Stinsons bulging fabric Ill give you my 2~ worth
Ive re-covered at least four during the past 45 years and dozens of reshycovering jobs on many types of aircraft Ive used cotton Irish linen Ceconite Razorback and Stits Im sticking with Ceconite 101 which [ like best I like the smell of dope beshysides all the other good features
When I tighten Ceconite I set my iron at 400degF to 450degF ] do the initial
tightening with a heat gun Then] work it with the iron evenly until] can feel the right tautness Thats just the right drumming sound and feel After the first coat ofprimer nishytrate dope there may be a few slack areas I then go over them again but never holding the iron in one place very long
Every Stinson I re-covered had screws on the four stringers on top of the fuselage from the windshield back about 3 or 4 feet spaced 3 or 4 inches apart ] just looked at three Stinsons on our flight line and they all have the screws
Don Macor Duluth Minnesota
Dons method might work well for him but Id hesitate to suggest it to anyone else In particular the use of a heat gun is prohibited in the Poly-Fiber and other process manuals that deal with the installashytion of Dacron fabric Uneven heat application is the reason it is disshycouraged Id also point out that the Cooper Superflight manual among others highlights the fact that Dacron fabric will start to m~lt
when heated above 450degF Thats why Don says he does not linger too long when shrinking the fabric with an iron set above 400degF
I just received my July issue of Vinshytage Airplane I always look forward to its arriva l That cover photo of the Stearman is beautiful Hats off to Jim Koepnick who does such a great job ofphotographing these old planes
I was drawn to the article on page 4 Is that Covering too Slack I have an uncovered Stinson 108-3 sitting in my garage so perhaps I can shed some light on some of the details about covshyering the Stinson 108 series In the article someone said Id be tempted to rib-stitch the fabric to the upper stringers on the fuselage Id suggest avoiding that temptation The Stinson used 4 PK screws to attach the fabric to the ribs and to the stringers above the fuselage I know because I have a coffee can with hundreds of these screws that I removed from my plane Above the fuselage there are four hatshysection aluminum stringers On my Stinson the fabric was attached to each of these stringers with 10 PK screws at 3-inch intervals beginning aft of the leading edge and running back just aft of the rear spar I believe thats how it was done originally I would not suggest rib-stitching beshycause the sharp edges of the hat-section stringers would cut the lacing And of course there is the matter of legality Rib-stitching would be a modification from the original construction certainly not appropriate in this situation
The photo on page 5 shows apparshyent ballooning of the fabric over the cabin area of the fuselage but theres more to this than meets the eye At the Stinson factory a blanket of fibershyglass insulation was installed above the cabin Old photos show this insushylation installed above the stringers I believe the fabric was then attached through the insulation to the stringers with the PK screws That puffy look above the cabin may be caused (at least in part) by the insulation Ive
We had a couple of folks ask if we could show a comparison shot highlighting loose fabric with the Stinson as an example In 1999 EAAs crack photo staff took air-to-air photos of a couple of Stinsons The top photo shows the fabric ballooning above the cabin In the lower photo the airplane restored by noted Stinson 108 rebuilder Butch Walsh of Arrington Virginia clearly shows the 4 PK (Parker-Kalon) screws that secure the fabric to the cabin roof stringers before the finishing tapes are applied
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discussion Im sure there are others out there who know more about this than I do Id enjoy hearing from anyshyone interes ted in Stinsons I have a website that I call Hangar 9 Aeroworks It features my project and other information on the 108-series Stinsons The URL is wwwhangar9 aeroworkscom
John Baker Damascus Maryland
Dip and HG were the first to agree with the members who wrote and called in to take them to ta sk for not confirming the exact method of attachment used by Stinson The intent of the original write-up was not to compos e a Stinson maintenance manual but to highlight the hazards inherent in any fabric job that is not propshyerly installed Our comments were meant to elicit a response from the membership in cluding expe rts like Butch Walsh Boy did they ever respond
Each of us is required to confirm the exact methods us ed by the manufacturer or subsequently apshyproved modifications and to scrupulously duplicate those methshyods The type certificate drawings and other information are often
seen Stinsons with the original type insulation that had the puffy look while sitting quietly on the ground
Dip Davis is correct that the Stinshyson did not originally cover the tanks on the 108s though Ive seen many restorations with the tanks covered There can be a bit of a problem with fabric tapes not adhering well to the perimeter of the tanks In fact I had a few tapes come loose once on a trip to EAA Chapter 643 s fl y-in at Pittstown New Jersey in 1993 A litshytle contact cem ent and some help from Chapter 643 got me back home okay Shortly after that I decided it was time for a complete re-cover job
Here s one more item about balshylooning fabric on the Stinson 108s that I learned from Stinson guru Butch Walsh The cabin fresh air intakes are on the leading edge of th e wing (as shown on page 17 of th e March issue of Vintage Airplane) Th ese vents feed into a chamber inside the inboard rib bay This chamber is not sealed very well so forced air spills out into the wing as well as into the cabin Taking care to seal this chamshyber can eliminate some problems with fabric on the inboard portion of th e wing and will provide more fresh air in the cabin
I hope this will contribute to the
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After we compiled with AD 2000shy25-02 the Champ looked a bit more shop-worn so we gave it a new name
available from the type club for your particular model
Dont blindly follow the lead of someone who may have restored the airplane in the past-they ma y have missed something that is required How many times have you seen a poorly placed inspection hole only to hear II But that was the way it was inshystalled on the airplane when I got it I Only the factory drawings and any supplemental type certifishy
cates (STC) or other approved modifications can change the aircrafts legal configushyration and the method of fabric installation is part of that configushyration
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After the ordeal Rosalie Gordon is seen in the centre with Lund who rescued her on the right The two other aviators are Pangborn and Thompson
came to earth in perfect fashion The onlookers released from the
restraint of their pent-up emotions at once surged wildly forward on to the ground but mounted attendants and armed police drove them back and an ambulance came dashing up with screeching horn
From underneath the plane crawled three disheveled but almost unhurt figures The two aviators had taken the slight shock of a perfect landing on their broad backs and they rose to their feet stiffly specks of blood on their faces and wrists from cuts caused by the rope from which Rosalie Gordon had been susshypended Daredevil flyers though they were both they and Pangborn showed the strain of the last halfshyhour All of them were white-faced and trembling
I was afraid the petrol would give out said Pangborn I kept circling over a little lake out there I thought that if we were forced to land it would be better than the ground
He walked over and measured the spirit in his tank and his face was eloquent He had just three minutes supply left
At first the little actress laughed hysterically but when a friend Esshyther Gray rushed up to her and embraced her she broke down and cried
So ended one of the biggest thrills and one of the finest exhibitions of heroism in the history of aviation Few flying men possess sufficient skill to carry out the work of the resshycue accomplished by Pangborn Lund and Girton-fewer still pershyhaps would have had the courage to attempt it
Seven years later Clyde Pangborn would be world famous for being the pilot on the first nonstop crossshying of the Pacific but in 1924 his cool head helped save a young lady parachutist from certain death
ever A few shouted words between them and then Lund took over the controls while Pangborn descended the frail under-rigging supports and joined the indefatigable Girton on the landing gear
Pangborn was slight of build but marvelously strong an open-air life and constant exercise had given him sinews of steel Crooking one leg over the axle and hanging on with one hand he slipped the other foot down and got a toehold under the girls belt Immediately she clasped him round the leg and with Girton carrying out a similar maneuver she was slowly raised until both men could reach her with their free hands A mighty heave and they hauled her into comparative safety on the axle-a wooden crosspiece three inches wide between the landshying wheels One says comparative safety advisedly There was little more than three feet of clearance beshytween the axle and the base of the plane and it was still a tossup whether through the give of the springs in landing anyone on the axle would not be crushed It was a risk that had to be taken however
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for nothing more could be done Once more Pangborn changed
places with Lund while Miss Gorshydon clung to the axle in a half-fainting condition Considering the fearful mental strain she had unshydergone her demeanor had been admirable she had followed the mens attempts to rescue her coolly and intelligently and had done everything she could to help them It was no wonder that the reaction was now making itself felt
Unfamiliar as he was with the controls of the plane Lund preferred the more dangerous job of holding Miss Gordon on the landing gear to the task of attempting to land So (swarming down) he took his placed beside her while the pilot dropped earthward in slow wide circles
The management fearing an accishydent when the landing was made sent a motorcar out onto the field in case the three people clinging to the gear might prefer to try and drop into it as it ran along under the plane Pangborn however perhaps wisely preferred the risks of a regushylar landing and in a final long swoop he swept over the grass and
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DETAIL AS WELL By Ev CASSAGNERES
We remember how we found it and the details of that first step in our aviation
life Perhaps that purchase was made under unique circumstances not simply by writing a check You may find the story of my first airplane similar to yours you may find it just plain interesting or you may be startshying that search
This story begins shortly after Aushygust 141945 V] Day the end of World War II On September 27 that same year I applied for and was hired as a line boy for Reynolds Flying Service at the New Haven Municipal Airport near New Haven Connecticut
I was in high school (Hillhouse High) at that time and would ride my
bull Irs
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Later that month I was on a bus ridshying from New Haven to my home in Westville a suburb of New Haven As we headed out Edgewood Avenue I happened to look out the window on the right side and nearly went nuts with excitement at what I saw It was in the yard of the Acme Auto Top Company
As soon as I got home I jumped onto my bicycle and rode back to see that airplane at Acme When [ met the owner Steve he said he wanted to sell it for $80 He showed me the wings tail surfaces and prop which were inshyside the building
The airplane was a 1929 Comshymand-Aire 3C-3T serial number 614 registration number NC901E It had a Curtiss OX-5 engine serial number 2116
The wings had silver fabric the
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fuselage was red and the tail surshyfaces were silver I was absolutely thrilled to just touch it I was only 17 years old and wondered how in the world I would ever come up with $80 for the airplane It was beautiful even though it most likely needed a complete rebuild to airshyworthy condition As partial payment for my work as a line boy I had been taking dual instruction in a Piper J-3C65 I wondered if I could even fly this airplane
At about this time I was also getshyting into serious bicycle racing through my friend Phil Kittredge who was already the Connecticut State Junior Champion He was not a pilot but agreed to be a partner in this endeavor Between us we came up with $15 as a down payment which we gave to Steve with a promise to get the rest as soon as we could
I went to work setting pins in loshycal bowling alleys and did some caddying at Yale Golf Course near where I lived both good jobs for a teenager at that time Phil and I
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These two shots are from the collection of Shelby Hagberg and are of the very ship forshymerly owned by then 17-yearshyold Ev Cassagneres Its a 1929 Command-Aire 3C-3T NC901 E serial number 614 Taken at Curtiss Field on Long Island New York The airplane was painted with silver wings and horizontal tail surface and a red fuselage and rudder
could not seem to raise enough cash to satisfy the airplane owner so we lost out on the deal and he kept the 15 bucks Of course we were devastated
In the meantime a local affluent gentleman who also collected anshytique automobiles managed to purchase the Command-Aire He had it moved out in the country in the town of Bethany It sat there out in a field with the wings laid out in the grass of an open field deterioratshying in the elements Occasionally I would cycle out there to look at it touch it and dream or fantasize
On January 21 1946 the new owner who knew who I was and that I was interested in the airplane called me and asked if I was still inshyterested He said he would sell it on a trade basis Needless to say I would come up with something
I happened to have a French-built Automoto bicycle that I was quite fond of but would be willing to part with It was worth about $80 so we did an even swap Now I had to find a place to put it and figure out a way
to get it home about 5 miles My friend Phil came to the rescue
again You see my own parents never did own a car or have drivers licenses Phil had the use of his fashythers 1937 Plymouth four-door car So we tied the tailskid in the trunk with clothesline rope and put the wings on the roof secured with ropes tied all over the place
We started out to drive the 5 miles to my house in Westville Well two young sporty guys couldshynt just go straight there and that would be that could they We realshyized that the local high school was due out at 230 in the afternoon So we just happened to detour with all of this interesting cargo over some hills to the school and we got there just as the students were getshyting out Many we knew and of course we directed our attention mainly to the girls So whats the story they would ask and that was all we needed We ahem had just flown down from some exotic place in northern Canada and planned on rebuilding the airplane for some other exotic adventure It was amazshying how convincing we could be and how gullible they were We did all of this while wearing an old pair of gogshygles and a helmet and with mischievous faces they still believed us so we let it go at that We laughed all the way home
The airplane sat in my backyard the rest of the winter as I worked on it although I really did not know what I was doing I did get the enshygine running a couple of times The sound and smell was exciting like a concert orchestra to me My parents gave me a lot of encouragement and enjoyed my project
However my enthusiasm and fanshytasy of flight were not to last very long We lived on the third floor of a three-family house and the landlord was not at all happy over this kid having an airplane in the backyard of our neighborhood So it had to go What to do We did not own a car so no garage was available and I could not find any other suitable
This shot taken at Curtiss Field as well clearly shows the split-axle landing gear and Fokker Dvll-styled wing center section as designed by famed aero engineer Albert Voellmecke
place for it So the bottom line was simple-I had to sell it And I never even took a picture of it nor did any of the neighbors
A schoolmate of mine by the name of Billy Gilbert also a stushydent pilot showed some interest and he lived in the town of Bethany That town had a grass runway airport and it was one of the oldest airports in New Engshyland where supposedly American Airlines got started Famous aviashytors had flown out of there names such as Bert Acosta Clarence Chamberlin Guss Graff Jack Tweed Franklin T Hank Kurt Bob Noorduyn (Norseman) and Batch Pond (Pond Creams) (The Bethany airport managed to stay in existence until the early 1980s)
On May 291946 Billy Gilbert came to the house with a farm rack truck and $30 loaded up the airshyplane and drove away That was the last time I saw it as r stood there and cried However I had hidden the propeller in our basement and still
have it as a memento in addition to a section of wing fabric with the black number NC901E on it
So what became of that old airshyplane Billy wen t into the Navy and his parents eventually sold the ship to a local junk and scrap dealer who was mainly interested in the OX engine That was the end of it I searched many years later but it was gone
Years later I came across many Command-Aire photographs and the ones shown with this article are all I have of that fond memory
Sometime after that I owned a 1941 Waco UPF-7 which I made my first dollar with by towing signs allover the place out of the Bethany airport and then a 1936 Ryan ST and now I have a 1953 Cessna 170B which I fly often (my first closed-in type)
Sometimes for old times sake r will fly the 170 with helmet and goggles and white scarf and the winshydows open See one never loses the thrill of real flight
In closing I can say that if one wants to fly bad enough one will find a way It is a healthy disease that can be most appreciated as you feel the wind in your face up in the air over our beautiful countryside
What else do I do now for fun My new book The Untold Story of The Spirit Of St Louis will be out next year 2002 the 75th annivershysary of Lindberghs epic flight This book has been a labor of love for decades and it will be published by Historic Aviation Books
When that is done I plan to write the history of Command-Aire and also some Connecticut aviation hisshytory In particular Im going to document the stories of the Cairns airplane the Kimball Beetle sevenshycylinder aircraft radial engine the Scorpion aircraft engine the Bristol gliders that were manufactured on Edgewood Avenue near the Acme Auto Top Company (see story) and the Bourdon- and Viking-built Kitty Hawk airplanes
After that I may retire
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TYPE CLUB
Some Thoughts on Restoration and Airworthiness Originally appeared in Waco World News Vol I No 36 MaylJune 2001
by Robert G Lock
Restoring an airplane is a lot like flying-hours and hours of someshytimes boring work separated by a few moments of stark terror As one approaches the end of a restoration project there comes a time for certishyfication by the FAA unless the airplane has a permanent airworthishyness certificate Receiving that all-important permanent standard airworthiness certificate is the final objective This article will give some background on past certification procedures especially for airplanes that go back to the beginning of government rules and regulations
Governments entry into aviashytion essentially began with the creation of the Aeronautics Branch of the Department of Commerce Near the top of the agenda of the new bureaucracy was the certificatshying of airplanes pilots and eventually mechanics Approved type certificates (ATC) began in March 1927 and continue to this day Registration numbers were reshyquired and were painted on the wings and tail The Roman capital letter N denoting registration in the United States followed by the letter C for commercial X for
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experimental R for restricted and L for limited were adopted Design requirements needed for an ATC were contained in Aeronautics Bulletin 7 later 7A ATCs were numshybered sequentia lly beginning with 1 and ending with 817 (a new ATC numbering system was introduced after number 817) The certificating of pilots and later mechanics closely followed as the government tried to regulate the beginning of the aviation industry
Obtaining an ATC to manufacshyture and sell an airplane was costly even in the early days Group 2 apshyprovals were awarded to a person or company when only a limited numshyber of aircraft were to be built either as a new design or as a modification of an existing airplane being manushyfactured under an ATe The Group 2 approvals were cheaper and easier to obtain but design and manufacshyture were equiva lent to approved type cert ificates
An important item to remember is that if an airplane was designed to Aeronautics Bulletin 7 or 7A it still must meet those requirements toshyday So for some restorers a copy of this manual is helpful
Another bit of information critishycal to certification is that there were no permanent airworthiness certifishycates in the old days A representative of the government re -certificated the airplane annushyally and a new airworthiness certificate was issued The papershywork f i le in Washington DC became immense There was a file folder for each registered aircraft and all hard copy paperwork was meticulously maintained Even telegrams were retained
Each file folder was a complete diary of the airplane from owners to inspections and repairs Some of this data is available today on mishycrofiche For most all aircraft the original hard copy files have been placed on microfiche and then the hard copy fi les were destroyed I have seen original files that are still stored in Suitland Maryland Most of those files are not on microfiche
ATC data is also known as type design data Type design data can be found in the Aircraft Listing Enshygine Listing and Prope ll er Listing (for fewer than SO airp lanes regisshytered) and in the Aircraft Engine and Propeller Specification Sheets
for the middle-aged aircraft For airplanes of this vintage this
is the only source of data for the reshystorer If youre really lucky there may be copies of original factory drawings available as a valuable supplement However most of the factory drawings for many antique aircraft have been destroyed Fortushynately for Waco restorers factory drawings are available Drawings are invaluable when restoring old airplanes I searched for the Comshymand-Aire drawings but determined that they had all been destroyed However in my search I did locate some valuable type deshysign data from a most unusual source which might be fuel for anshyother story
In the mid 1930s the aviation inshydustry continued to grow By an act of Congress the government creshyated the Civil Aeronautics Administration (CAA) The CAA took regulations created by the Aeronautics Branch of the Departshyment of Commerce and expanded its bureaucratic role in aviation It created Civil Aviation Regulations (CAR) and Civil Aviation Manuals (CAM) Requirements of approved type were now contained in the CARs CAR 3 was certification for small aircraft Also to appear was the mechanics bible CAM 18 which spelled out requirements for major repairs to aircraft This publishycation evolved into the present FAA Advisory Circulars AC4313-1B andshy2B which give data on major repairs and alterations
The annual re-certificating of airshycraft was still required and a new airworthiness certificate was given to the owner after the airplane was approved for return to service As the workload increased a new method of certificating was created DeSignated aircraft maintenance inshyspectors (DAM I) were selected to take over the re-certificating duties These were well-experienced airshy
craft and engine (AampE) mechanics that were hand selected by local CAA maintenance inspectors The airworthiness certificate was still isshysued every year but in the mid-1950s about the time that the Federal Aviation Agency (FAA) came to power things began to change for airworthiness certificates They became permanent The aircraft could be re-certificated every year by a DAMI and later by an FAA airshyframe and powerplant (AampP) mechanic who holds an inspection authorization (IA) So today the AampP with IA can return to service annual inspections many major reshypairs and some major alterations
Congress created the Federal Avishyation Agency in 1958 Soon after the word II Agency was dropped in favor of II Administration And government control and bureaushycracy continued to grow ever larger
While we are on the subject of the FAA perhaps an easy method to distinguish differences between mashyjor repairs and major alterations is to apply the following
If the repair returns the aircraft to its original type certificate afshyfects airworthiness and cannot be done using elementary techniques then it is a major repair
If the repair (or modification) alshyters conformity to the original type design data then it is a major alteration
If an AampP mechanic cannot apshyprove a major repair or major alteration then a field approval by an FAA maintenance inspector must be obtained Sometimes this is more complicated than can be imagined Maybe a future story on FAA field approvals would prove inshyteresting
If an aircraft has never had a pershymanent airworthiness certificate then one must be obtained Here again the FAA issues this certifishycate To obtain that treasured piece of paper you must fill out an applishy
cation and prove that the airplane conforms to its type certificate Sometimes this is very difficult Esshypecially if the original type design data is incomplete or missing I have seen file cabinets in FAA headshyquarters with drawers containing type design data Just like Joe Juptshyners US Civil Aircraft books each drawer had a folder with the ATC number on top Some of the folders contained data while some were empty When the folder was empty the FAA had no type design data other than data that was published in Aircraft Engine and Propeller Listing which is not very much
For the coveted permanent airshyworthiness certificate an FAA representative will conduct a conshyformity inspection The basis for the inspection could be one or more of the following FAA Airshycraft Engine and Propeller Listing or Specification Sheets microfiche of original aircraft records containshying airworthiness and registration data factory drawings (if available) and aircraft and engine operating limitations
In addition current weight and balance calculations with critical forward and aft loading (if reshyquired) a loading schedule (if required) and appropriate placardshying must be included A list of required optional and special equipment must accompany the weight and balance data And lastly FAA Form 337 (Major Repair amp Mashyjor Alteration) must be completed by the supervising AampPIA Aircraft and engine logbooks must have apshypropriate entries made and registration data must be shown After many months (or should I say years) of restoration work perhaps that small piece of paper that says PERMANENT AIRWORTHINESS CERTIFICATE-STANDARD is now in your hand Categories of the airshyworthiness certificate are NORMAL UTILITY and ACROBATIC
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Mike Sleineke
Yeah well just strip it and paint it
Shouldnt take more than a month Thats what Ronnie Cox and Greg Davis of Ft Lauderdale Florida said about their 1962 250 Comanche
Sound familiar That kind of comshyment is right up there with Well just clean up a few of the instrushyments or Gee wouldnt it look better with a new windshield
Not once in the history of vinshytage con tern porary airplanes has anyone
1 Removed just one part painted it and put it right back on without removing a bunch more first
2 Started to do just one restoration operation eg re-bush the landing gear and done only that one thing
3 Taken an engine off overhauled it and put it back on without redoshying everything in sight
4 Reupholstered just the front seats and stopped there
You get the picture Airplanes are a lot like tar babies and once you get
your fingers into them they generally suck you in right up to your navel and don t let you go until theres nothing left to do
Ronnie and Greg were both lookshying for a serious cross-country airplane they could use to run from Florida up to Ronnies summer house in the Michigan islands Ronnie had owned three Comanches in the past so that was his bird of choice For Greg it would be his first airplane ownership
Ronnie had a long history of airshyplane ownership and involvement because his dad was heavily involved in aircraft and used to fly him all over the country Plus he owned a long string of airplanes including a PT-19 and a bunch of Pipers including Tri-Pacers Pacers and such
Ronnie started flying while he was still based in Ohio in the 1960s
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The 2S0-hp six-cylinder Lycoming gives the Comanche Bonanza-rivaling speed (a cruise of 161 to 181 mph) and a useful load carrying capacity of up to 1200 pounds
Updated radios and a refurbished interior make the Comanche a comfortable cross-country speedster
and his wife and son learned to fly from the same CFI who taught both his father and him to fly
Cox an elecshytrical engineer by training had started his own enshygineering business years ago and even worked a Seneca II into it for corposhyrate transportation so by the time the 1962 Comanche entered thei r lives he had 5500 hours of flying time He recently sought a change in career and sold his business to fly for a comshymuter airline
Ronnie also had a business buildshying engines for drag racers that Greg said really helped because Ronshynie just has a feel for what has to be done to a machine mechanically to make it right
Cox enjoyed rebuilding airplanes almost from the beginning and his total restoration of a Cessna 140 won a Lindy Award as recognition that he was a hands-on kind of guy who farmed out as little of his airplane reshybuilding projects as possible However it was in looking for a little help while his son and he were reshybuilding his sons Cessna 120 (which also won a Lindy) that he met Greg Davis
We needed to have some alushyminum bent to make up a new spar doubler for the 120 Ronnie said and someone suggested we contact
this guy on the other side of the field Ronnie
laughed when he said this inshydicating something was coming We walked in with the original
doubler in our hand which was a litshytle crude and showed it to Greg This
was the first time Id laid eyes on him Ronnie said
He looked at the doubler threw it down and said No I cant make something like this I thought he was joking or something Then he said If I make it itll be better than that Greg can be a little cantankerous and Ronnie Cox laughed again
Greg Davis has run Davis Aircraft Services in Ft Lauderdale since 1985 and he specializes in doing structural repairs on corporate airplanes As such he has developed both the facilshyity and ability to do practically anything with sheet metal So beshytween Ronnies mechanical ability and Gregs feeling for sheet metal there was practically nothing they couldnt do to a little airplane
I had been part of an RV-4 buildshying project but got out of it because I was just too busy flying a friends Pitts S-2B Greg explained He said I could fly it as much as I wanted so I started competing and between that and work I didnt really have the time to own my own airplane
There was something about the chemistry between the two men that prompted them to want a cross-counshy
try airplane that could carry two guys 120 gallons of gas and our bagshygage Enter the Comanche
They ran into the airplane in Aushygust 1992 and it was a really sad example of the breed but the price was right and the sheet metal looked good Also it had no corrosion
Then they started comparing the logbooks to the actual airplane and found that someone had a fanciful imagination when it came to the defishynition of airworthiness directive (AD) compliance The Comanche has a bunch of fairly serious and expenshysive ADs Ronnie pointed out Over the years someone had been signing off the ADs but not doing them As they put it the airplane had about 25 years of pencil maintenance
We found a perfect example of how well this airplane was mainshytained when we replaced the tires One of the tubes was dated 1962 and had been on the airplane since it was built Greg said
The airplane had also been landed gear-up at some point in its career Again the previous keepers of the logs didnt see fit to mention this litshytle incident There were a bunch of scab patches on the belly we had to get rid of and we put new gear doors on it
Their approach to the sheet metal was simple If a panel needed a repair they would just replace the panel We re-skinned part of the turtledeck
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WHAT OUR MEMBERS ARE RESTORING by HG Frautschy and Norm Petersen
AERONCA 7DC Sitting on the grass at Lee Bottom Airport near Louisville Kentucky Mark
and Wendie Paszkiewiczs (VAA 580997) 1946 Aeronca 7DC is ready for a flight in the warm hazy skies along the Ohio River First delivered as a 7 AC to a Phoenix Arizona flight school in 1946 with the installation of a Conshytinental 85-hp engine it became an Aeronca 7De Partially restored when they bought the project Mark and Wendie couldnt resist rebuilding some parts Now they fly the Champ around to local fly-ins and just have fun in it after work
CHAMPION 7GCB Posed in the afternoon sunshine of Sky
Harbor Airport in Duluth Minnesota is a beautiful 1962 Champion 7GCB N9912Y serial number 7GCB-133 mounted on an immaculate set of PKshy1800 floats Recently re-covered and painted by veteran mechanic Don Macor (VAA 28788) of Duluth Minnesota this particular aircraft is quite rare in that it has only 706 hours total time on airframe and engine has a factory original outside baggage compartment door and is one of only six 7GCBs remaining on the US Register In addition during its entire 39shyyear lifespan only one authorized inspectors name is in the aircraft logshybooks-Don Macor Don reports the airframe was in very good shape with only minor surface rust on a few places The covering is Ceconite 101 with bushytyrate dope in Daytona white Miami blue and black trim Note the seaplane auxiliary fins on the stabilizers necessary with the added mass of the floats ahead of the CG
Unusual to this model of 150 hp Champion is the outside baggage door on the right side of the fuselage seen here in the open position and ready for access to the baggage compartment
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because we removed the beacon It takes alshymost as long to patch the hole correctly as it does to replace the enshytire panel and then you dont have that ugly patch up there
The same thing held true for the cowlshying which they say is a weak point in a Coshymanche Building a new one consumed an enormous amount of time
Comanche control surfaces are reshyally thin mostly 016 and 020 so it doesnt take much to bend them up This airplane had apparently seen some hail that was heavy enough to dent the control surfaces but not the rest of the airplane so Greg said we re-skinned most of the control surfaces
Early in the project when the pair realized the airplane was going to take more than simply stripping and painting they decided on a specific goal We wanted to make it a truly modern airplane almost a new one so we could depend on it So we did everything but de-mate the wing We removed every single wire and sysshytem in the entire airplane and rebuilt every part of it according to Ronnie
When it came to the avionics Greg said it was really grungy It had Mark 12 radios in it and by the time we were done removing layers and layers of old wiring we took about SO pounds of wires out
Part of making it a modern airshyplane meant building reliability into everything ahead of the firewall We put a 260-hp exhaust system on it along with a lightweight starter new mags and most important we put a new fuel pump on it and had it flowshychecked Weve had some really tragic accidents in the Comanche community because the fuel pump was working but it wasnt putting out enough to feed the engine at takeoff power
According to the pair the landing
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gear is another area that needs careful examination because it wears out quickly We pulled every bushing and part of the gear and found that much of it was really sloppy This makes it hard to rig and contributes to gear collapses We dont know the history to our airplanes accident but that could have played a part
Naturally everything in the inteshyrior was replaced including a new panel with modern everything and they installed shoulder harnesses at the same time To keep their passenshygers happy they installed a small TV set with a VCR in the back seat They also installed a 14-inch thick big windshield and routed the edges down so it would fit flush into the original mounting channels
It took five years to get the airshyplane ready to fly and then it took another three months to get the pashyperwork completed We filed eight 337s and one field approval Because I do so many similar things with the corporate aircraft I just approached this one the same way Greg Davis said I filed them all through a DER (deSignated engineering representashytive) but rather than doing them locally I invited the FAA to come up and take a look at the airplane
They are obviously proud of the FAAs reaction to the way they apshyproached their project II After they came up the first time they brought another group of guys up to take a look at it They told us they wanted everyone in their office to see this beshy
cause this is the way they like to see an airshyplane and the supshyporting paperwork done Seems like theres a lesson for the rest of us in there somewhere
Ronnie Cox said The Comanche is a great airplane but like all airplanes if it needs extensive work it can be really expensive if you dont do it yourshyself Theres an old
saying about Piper products Made by farmers for farmers and its true The airplane is really easy to work on but the best thing you can do is make sure you get a good airplane in the first place
Cox has a number of pOints that he said every wannabe Comanche owner should satisfy before he or she buys a particular airplane Besides the normal over-all condition stuff that affects every airplane there are some specifics which include
bull AD list and compliance-Undershystand what airworthiness directives affect the airplane and make sure they were actually done
bull Gear condition-Look for cracked knuckles and measure as many internal dimensions as posshysible
bull Gear-up damage-Gear-up landshyings often crush the structure that the gear motor is attached to Make sure it was repaired properly
bull Flap track condition-The flap tracks wear and need to be carefully checked
bull Flap motor-The flap actuation system and especially the motor have to be checked for condition
The CoxDavis Comanche has more than 200 hours on it now and its owners (or should they be called creators) say it does exactly what they wanted it to do It lets them go long distances in comfort and they have the peace of mind that comes from knowing everything within that airplane was done right
CHAMPION 7ED7FC Ownerpilot Mike Foote (VAA 365457) wrote to us concerning his terrific restoration IIManufactured by Champion Aircraft in 1959 N8539E began life as a Tri-Champ In 1983 it was convelted to a taidragshy
gerl but only 12 short flight hours later life changed dramatically for N8539E when it was severely damaged in a windstorm The ownerls initial impression was that it would never fly again The remains went through several owners each intent upon restorationl but finding the task a daunting onel each chose instead to pass it along to someone else with more ambition My tum came in July of1995 After 15 months ofintense restoration efforts N8539E became a plane again on October 261 1996 1 flew the plane from my home base in Olathel Kansas to Oshkosh in 1997 and had it judged in the Contemporary category My efforts were rewardedl as the Champion was selected as the Outstanding Champion aircraft for that year It is still going strong and is just as satisfying to fly today as it was for the first time II
TAYLORCRAFf DC-65
Chet Peek (VAA 13458) author of terrific books such as The First Cub and Resurrection ofa Jenny has gotshyten back into flying after losing his airplanes and Norman Oklahoma hangar during a tornado in 1998 Chefs bought Bruce Bixlers Taylorshycraft DC-65 This DC-65 is one of the rare early Taylorcraft Tandems which had aluminum spars and ribs A few in the same series became the first Taylorcraft L-2 liaison airplanes Chefs airplane is finished in the Civilian Training Programs colors of blue and yellow
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September Mystery Plane
by HG Frautschy
This months Mystery Plane is a rare metal plane from the collection of Pete Bowers
Send your answer to EAA Vinshytage Airp lane PO Box 3086 Oshkosh WI 54903-3086 Your anshyswer needs to be in no later than October 15 for inclusion in the Deshycember issue of Vintage Airplane
You can also send your response via e-m ail Send your answer to vintageeaaorg
Be sure to include both your name and address (especially your city and state) in the body of your not e and put (Month) Mystery Plane in the subject line
Plenty of you knew the June Mysshytery Plane surely one of those Don t you wish there was just one of th ese left kind of airplanes Heres our first letter
The Mystery Plane in the June 2001 edition of Vintage Airplane is an Ireshyland N-2 Neptune
Ireland N-2 Nep
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G Sumner Ireland had been an engineer for Curtiss up to 1926 He later formed Ireland Aircraft Inc at Curshytiss Field Garden City and marketed th e Ireland Comet Meteor Privateer and Neptune Th e N-2B Neptune (circa 1927) was a four-pla ce amphibian powshyered by a 300-hp Wright J-6 while the N-2C Nepshytun e was a fiv e-place amphibian with a 450-hp PampWWasp
Thomas H Lymburn Princeton Minnesota
And more on the various models of the Neptune
The June Mystery Plane is the Amshyphibians Incorporated Model N-2B or N-2C with either PampW Wa sp engine or the Wright Whirlwind 300 in the five- or six-place amphibian Modificashytions from the Ireland A ircraft Inc Model ND5-ND6 include strut covers and increased bow angle on the tip floats and an extended main hull float behind the step The three views are from the Aircraft Yearbook 3- View
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Drawings 1903-1946 Russ Brown Lyndhurst Ohio
With Juptn ers U S Civil A ircraft this one didn t take long to idenshytify Vol 2 p ages 151-153 for ATC 153 des cribes th e Ireland Neptun e N-2B With enough clarity in th e photo to note the license as NC-88K its listed as L ____v
production number 43
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and had a 300-hp Wright J-6 engine (affirmed by the long rocker-box eavshyers) (Abo ut this time some models were being upgraded with a 450 PampW Wasp for the model N-2C-ATC 248)
Ive always been very appreciative of Joe Juptners good coverage of all the ATCd US aircraft Over the years Ive been building scale models of more obshyscure aircraft as a hobby Ive drawn many of my plans from photos and dishymensions in US Civil Aircraft In fact I have a plan I drew for the Nepshytune N-2C though Ive not built it yet Thats why I recognized the June Mysshytery plane was a Neptune I lived in Ecuador for about 45 years and made most of the models of jungle hardshywoods in 1 32 scale
Bub Borman Dallas Texas
Junes Mystery Plane was easy It is Irelands Neptune NC-89K shown on page 143 of us Civil Aircraft Vol 3
by Juptner Both pictures were probably taken the same day Note the man at left in both pictures same suit hat and tie Note the taped wire or tube on left wing forward strut
Excuse this old typewriter Im 81 and darned ifIll get a new one now
Good magazine good association good people Thanks
Albert B Aplin Chuluota Florida
Ju st a note to say I think the Jun e Mystery Plane is one of the Ireland Airshycraft Inc Neptune series
G Sumner Irelands ideas on flying boats pre-date this N-2C version by several years so the name was not new to aviation
Th e N-2C for the June issue was one of about nine built in late 1929 and the early 1930s
It was powered by a 450-hp Pratt amp Whitn ey Wasp and had a chromoly frame around which were bulkheads of duralumin to which were fastened
formers and then the outer aluminum skin
Hope this entry will serve to put me in the winners circle But then you always are when you join the V AA
John Kennelley Norwalk Iowa
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Feedback on Loose Fabric
Weve gotten plenty of comshyments about the article concerning bulging fabric While it wasnt part of my column originally many of you have addressed your comments to me so Ill check in on the freshyquency
Before we get to that Id like to update you on the status of our Champ airworthiness directive compliance It went fine as you may recall reading in my July colshyumn but a funny thing happened after flying a bit in the rain-the paint we sprayed over the patches has started to come off Dang Usshying MEK I thought Id completely removed the lemon-scented furnishyture polish I use regularly to clean the leading edges but I guess I was wrong The paint on the leading edges is beginning to peel HG and I wonder if they put any silishycone in the polish Doesnt say so on the can but maybe its a secret ingredient The peeling paint makes the new name (see photo on page 26) for the Champ even more accurate
Lets get on with the loose fabric discussion
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First loose fabric is a hazard for a couple of reasons Loose fabric can chafe against fairing strips and fasshyteners weakening it If a fabric edge is caught in the slipstream it can easily be torn away The results can be disastrous If it gets tangled up with a control surface it can even cause a loss of control and at the very least the loose wildly flapping fabric can be a huge distraction Heres what some others had to say I cant say I agree with everyones comments but it certainly is intershyesting to see how fabrics are being applied in shops around the world Heres our first note
You must have received a lot of comments about the Stinsons bulging fabric Ill give you my 2~ worth
Ive re-covered at least four during the past 45 years and dozens of reshycovering jobs on many types of aircraft Ive used cotton Irish linen Ceconite Razorback and Stits Im sticking with Ceconite 101 which [ like best I like the smell of dope beshysides all the other good features
When I tighten Ceconite I set my iron at 400degF to 450degF ] do the initial
tightening with a heat gun Then] work it with the iron evenly until] can feel the right tautness Thats just the right drumming sound and feel After the first coat ofprimer nishytrate dope there may be a few slack areas I then go over them again but never holding the iron in one place very long
Every Stinson I re-covered had screws on the four stringers on top of the fuselage from the windshield back about 3 or 4 feet spaced 3 or 4 inches apart ] just looked at three Stinsons on our flight line and they all have the screws
Don Macor Duluth Minnesota
Dons method might work well for him but Id hesitate to suggest it to anyone else In particular the use of a heat gun is prohibited in the Poly-Fiber and other process manuals that deal with the installashytion of Dacron fabric Uneven heat application is the reason it is disshycouraged Id also point out that the Cooper Superflight manual among others highlights the fact that Dacron fabric will start to m~lt
when heated above 450degF Thats why Don says he does not linger too long when shrinking the fabric with an iron set above 400degF
I just received my July issue of Vinshytage Airplane I always look forward to its arriva l That cover photo of the Stearman is beautiful Hats off to Jim Koepnick who does such a great job ofphotographing these old planes
I was drawn to the article on page 4 Is that Covering too Slack I have an uncovered Stinson 108-3 sitting in my garage so perhaps I can shed some light on some of the details about covshyering the Stinson 108 series In the article someone said Id be tempted to rib-stitch the fabric to the upper stringers on the fuselage Id suggest avoiding that temptation The Stinson used 4 PK screws to attach the fabric to the ribs and to the stringers above the fuselage I know because I have a coffee can with hundreds of these screws that I removed from my plane Above the fuselage there are four hatshysection aluminum stringers On my Stinson the fabric was attached to each of these stringers with 10 PK screws at 3-inch intervals beginning aft of the leading edge and running back just aft of the rear spar I believe thats how it was done originally I would not suggest rib-stitching beshycause the sharp edges of the hat-section stringers would cut the lacing And of course there is the matter of legality Rib-stitching would be a modification from the original construction certainly not appropriate in this situation
The photo on page 5 shows apparshyent ballooning of the fabric over the cabin area of the fuselage but theres more to this than meets the eye At the Stinson factory a blanket of fibershyglass insulation was installed above the cabin Old photos show this insushylation installed above the stringers I believe the fabric was then attached through the insulation to the stringers with the PK screws That puffy look above the cabin may be caused (at least in part) by the insulation Ive
We had a couple of folks ask if we could show a comparison shot highlighting loose fabric with the Stinson as an example In 1999 EAAs crack photo staff took air-to-air photos of a couple of Stinsons The top photo shows the fabric ballooning above the cabin In the lower photo the airplane restored by noted Stinson 108 rebuilder Butch Walsh of Arrington Virginia clearly shows the 4 PK (Parker-Kalon) screws that secure the fabric to the cabin roof stringers before the finishing tapes are applied
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discussion Im sure there are others out there who know more about this than I do Id enjoy hearing from anyshyone interes ted in Stinsons I have a website that I call Hangar 9 Aeroworks It features my project and other information on the 108-series Stinsons The URL is wwwhangar9 aeroworkscom
John Baker Damascus Maryland
Dip and HG were the first to agree with the members who wrote and called in to take them to ta sk for not confirming the exact method of attachment used by Stinson The intent of the original write-up was not to compos e a Stinson maintenance manual but to highlight the hazards inherent in any fabric job that is not propshyerly installed Our comments were meant to elicit a response from the membership in cluding expe rts like Butch Walsh Boy did they ever respond
Each of us is required to confirm the exact methods us ed by the manufacturer or subsequently apshyproved modifications and to scrupulously duplicate those methshyods The type certificate drawings and other information are often
seen Stinsons with the original type insulation that had the puffy look while sitting quietly on the ground
Dip Davis is correct that the Stinshyson did not originally cover the tanks on the 108s though Ive seen many restorations with the tanks covered There can be a bit of a problem with fabric tapes not adhering well to the perimeter of the tanks In fact I had a few tapes come loose once on a trip to EAA Chapter 643 s fl y-in at Pittstown New Jersey in 1993 A litshytle contact cem ent and some help from Chapter 643 got me back home okay Shortly after that I decided it was time for a complete re-cover job
Here s one more item about balshylooning fabric on the Stinson 108s that I learned from Stinson guru Butch Walsh The cabin fresh air intakes are on the leading edge of th e wing (as shown on page 17 of th e March issue of Vintage Airplane) Th ese vents feed into a chamber inside the inboard rib bay This chamber is not sealed very well so forced air spills out into the wing as well as into the cabin Taking care to seal this chamshyber can eliminate some problems with fabric on the inboard portion of th e wing and will provide more fresh air in the cabin
I hope this will contribute to the
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Dont blindly follow the lead of someone who may have restored the airplane in the past-they ma y have missed something that is required How many times have you seen a poorly placed inspection hole only to hear II But that was the way it was inshystalled on the airplane when I got it I Only the factory drawings and any supplemental type certifishy
cates (STC) or other approved modifications can change the aircrafts legal configushyration and the method of fabric installation is part of that configushyration
As both HG and I have pOinted out in the past the covering supshypliers have specific instructions on how their covering methods are to be installed Since covering with the Poly-Fiber Cooper Superflight Ai r-Tech or other processes were not included in the type certificate for the airplanes that we were dealshying with here an STC for their installation was obtained by the resp ective companies If their method is not followed you run the risk of having the covering job re jected by an IA (AampP with inshyspection authorization) mechanic andor the FAA for not conformshying to the STC If an STCd part is installed on an aircraft and the methods spelled out in the STC are not followed the aircraft is unshyairworthy Un-airworthy aircraft dont have very good resale values and besides you can t fly them And thats the point of all of this right Let s get out there do it right and fly safely
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DETAIL AS WELL By Ev CASSAGNERES
We remember how we found it and the details of that first step in our aviation
life Perhaps that purchase was made under unique circumstances not simply by writing a check You may find the story of my first airplane similar to yours you may find it just plain interesting or you may be startshying that search
This story begins shortly after Aushygust 141945 V] Day the end of World War II On September 27 that same year I applied for and was hired as a line boy for Reynolds Flying Service at the New Haven Municipal Airport near New Haven Connecticut
I was in high school (Hillhouse High) at that time and would ride my
bull Irs
bicycle to school every day rain snow or shine Then to get to work after school I rode it to the airport I did all the dirty work sweeping out the hangar and shop gassing and oilshying airplanes and washing and hand-propping airplanes when necesshysary Some were as big as Pratt amp Whitney R-985s I also helped out in the shop with repairs rib stitching and doping
Later that month I was on a bus ridshying from New Haven to my home in Westville a suburb of New Haven As we headed out Edgewood Avenue I happened to look out the window on the right side and nearly went nuts with excitement at what I saw It was in the yard of the Acme Auto Top Company
As soon as I got home I jumped onto my bicycle and rode back to see that airplane at Acme When [ met the owner Steve he said he wanted to sell it for $80 He showed me the wings tail surfaces and prop which were inshyside the building
The airplane was a 1929 Comshymand-Aire 3C-3T serial number 614 registration number NC901E It had a Curtiss OX-5 engine serial number 2116
The wings had silver fabric the
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fuselage was red and the tail surshyfaces were silver I was absolutely thrilled to just touch it I was only 17 years old and wondered how in the world I would ever come up with $80 for the airplane It was beautiful even though it most likely needed a complete rebuild to airshyworthy condition As partial payment for my work as a line boy I had been taking dual instruction in a Piper J-3C65 I wondered if I could even fly this airplane
At about this time I was also getshyting into serious bicycle racing through my friend Phil Kittredge who was already the Connecticut State Junior Champion He was not a pilot but agreed to be a partner in this endeavor Between us we came up with $15 as a down payment which we gave to Steve with a promise to get the rest as soon as we could
I went to work setting pins in loshycal bowling alleys and did some caddying at Yale Golf Course near where I lived both good jobs for a teenager at that time Phil and I
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These two shots are from the collection of Shelby Hagberg and are of the very ship forshymerly owned by then 17-yearshyold Ev Cassagneres Its a 1929 Command-Aire 3C-3T NC901 E serial number 614 Taken at Curtiss Field on Long Island New York The airplane was painted with silver wings and horizontal tail surface and a red fuselage and rudder
could not seem to raise enough cash to satisfy the airplane owner so we lost out on the deal and he kept the 15 bucks Of course we were devastated
In the meantime a local affluent gentleman who also collected anshytique automobiles managed to purchase the Command-Aire He had it moved out in the country in the town of Bethany It sat there out in a field with the wings laid out in the grass of an open field deterioratshying in the elements Occasionally I would cycle out there to look at it touch it and dream or fantasize
On January 21 1946 the new owner who knew who I was and that I was interested in the airplane called me and asked if I was still inshyterested He said he would sell it on a trade basis Needless to say I would come up with something
I happened to have a French-built Automoto bicycle that I was quite fond of but would be willing to part with It was worth about $80 so we did an even swap Now I had to find a place to put it and figure out a way
to get it home about 5 miles My friend Phil came to the rescue
again You see my own parents never did own a car or have drivers licenses Phil had the use of his fashythers 1937 Plymouth four-door car So we tied the tailskid in the trunk with clothesline rope and put the wings on the roof secured with ropes tied all over the place
We started out to drive the 5 miles to my house in Westville Well two young sporty guys couldshynt just go straight there and that would be that could they We realshyized that the local high school was due out at 230 in the afternoon So we just happened to detour with all of this interesting cargo over some hills to the school and we got there just as the students were getshyting out Many we knew and of course we directed our attention mainly to the girls So whats the story they would ask and that was all we needed We ahem had just flown down from some exotic place in northern Canada and planned on rebuilding the airplane for some other exotic adventure It was amazshying how convincing we could be and how gullible they were We did all of this while wearing an old pair of gogshygles and a helmet and with mischievous faces they still believed us so we let it go at that We laughed all the way home
The airplane sat in my backyard the rest of the winter as I worked on it although I really did not know what I was doing I did get the enshygine running a couple of times The sound and smell was exciting like a concert orchestra to me My parents gave me a lot of encouragement and enjoyed my project
However my enthusiasm and fanshytasy of flight were not to last very long We lived on the third floor of a three-family house and the landlord was not at all happy over this kid having an airplane in the backyard of our neighborhood So it had to go What to do We did not own a car so no garage was available and I could not find any other suitable
This shot taken at Curtiss Field as well clearly shows the split-axle landing gear and Fokker Dvll-styled wing center section as designed by famed aero engineer Albert Voellmecke
place for it So the bottom line was simple-I had to sell it And I never even took a picture of it nor did any of the neighbors
A schoolmate of mine by the name of Billy Gilbert also a stushydent pilot showed some interest and he lived in the town of Bethany That town had a grass runway airport and it was one of the oldest airports in New Engshyland where supposedly American Airlines got started Famous aviashytors had flown out of there names such as Bert Acosta Clarence Chamberlin Guss Graff Jack Tweed Franklin T Hank Kurt Bob Noorduyn (Norseman) and Batch Pond (Pond Creams) (The Bethany airport managed to stay in existence until the early 1980s)
On May 291946 Billy Gilbert came to the house with a farm rack truck and $30 loaded up the airshyplane and drove away That was the last time I saw it as r stood there and cried However I had hidden the propeller in our basement and still
have it as a memento in addition to a section of wing fabric with the black number NC901E on it
So what became of that old airshyplane Billy wen t into the Navy and his parents eventually sold the ship to a local junk and scrap dealer who was mainly interested in the OX engine That was the end of it I searched many years later but it was gone
Years later I came across many Command-Aire photographs and the ones shown with this article are all I have of that fond memory
Sometime after that I owned a 1941 Waco UPF-7 which I made my first dollar with by towing signs allover the place out of the Bethany airport and then a 1936 Ryan ST and now I have a 1953 Cessna 170B which I fly often (my first closed-in type)
Sometimes for old times sake r will fly the 170 with helmet and goggles and white scarf and the winshydows open See one never loses the thrill of real flight
In closing I can say that if one wants to fly bad enough one will find a way It is a healthy disease that can be most appreciated as you feel the wind in your face up in the air over our beautiful countryside
What else do I do now for fun My new book The Untold Story of The Spirit Of St Louis will be out next year 2002 the 75th annivershysary of Lindberghs epic flight This book has been a labor of love for decades and it will be published by Historic Aviation Books
When that is done I plan to write the history of Command-Aire and also some Connecticut aviation hisshytory In particular Im going to document the stories of the Cairns airplane the Kimball Beetle sevenshycylinder aircraft radial engine the Scorpion aircraft engine the Bristol gliders that were manufactured on Edgewood Avenue near the Acme Auto Top Company (see story) and the Bourdon- and Viking-built Kitty Hawk airplanes
After that I may retire
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TYPE CLUB
Some Thoughts on Restoration and Airworthiness Originally appeared in Waco World News Vol I No 36 MaylJune 2001
by Robert G Lock
Restoring an airplane is a lot like flying-hours and hours of someshytimes boring work separated by a few moments of stark terror As one approaches the end of a restoration project there comes a time for certishyfication by the FAA unless the airplane has a permanent airworthishyness certificate Receiving that all-important permanent standard airworthiness certificate is the final objective This article will give some background on past certification procedures especially for airplanes that go back to the beginning of government rules and regulations
Governments entry into aviashytion essentially began with the creation of the Aeronautics Branch of the Department of Commerce Near the top of the agenda of the new bureaucracy was the certificatshying of airplanes pilots and eventually mechanics Approved type certificates (ATC) began in March 1927 and continue to this day Registration numbers were reshyquired and were painted on the wings and tail The Roman capital letter N denoting registration in the United States followed by the letter C for commercial X for
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experimental R for restricted and L for limited were adopted Design requirements needed for an ATC were contained in Aeronautics Bulletin 7 later 7A ATCs were numshybered sequentia lly beginning with 1 and ending with 817 (a new ATC numbering system was introduced after number 817) The certificating of pilots and later mechanics closely followed as the government tried to regulate the beginning of the aviation industry
Obtaining an ATC to manufacshyture and sell an airplane was costly even in the early days Group 2 apshyprovals were awarded to a person or company when only a limited numshyber of aircraft were to be built either as a new design or as a modification of an existing airplane being manushyfactured under an ATe The Group 2 approvals were cheaper and easier to obtain but design and manufacshyture were equiva lent to approved type cert ificates
An important item to remember is that if an airplane was designed to Aeronautics Bulletin 7 or 7A it still must meet those requirements toshyday So for some restorers a copy of this manual is helpful
Another bit of information critishycal to certification is that there were no permanent airworthiness certifishycates in the old days A representative of the government re -certificated the airplane annushyally and a new airworthiness certificate was issued The papershywork f i le in Washington DC became immense There was a file folder for each registered aircraft and all hard copy paperwork was meticulously maintained Even telegrams were retained
Each file folder was a complete diary of the airplane from owners to inspections and repairs Some of this data is available today on mishycrofiche For most all aircraft the original hard copy files have been placed on microfiche and then the hard copy fi les were destroyed I have seen original files that are still stored in Suitland Maryland Most of those files are not on microfiche
ATC data is also known as type design data Type design data can be found in the Aircraft Listing Enshygine Listing and Prope ll er Listing (for fewer than SO airp lanes regisshytered) and in the Aircraft Engine and Propeller Specification Sheets
for the middle-aged aircraft For airplanes of this vintage this
is the only source of data for the reshystorer If youre really lucky there may be copies of original factory drawings available as a valuable supplement However most of the factory drawings for many antique aircraft have been destroyed Fortushynately for Waco restorers factory drawings are available Drawings are invaluable when restoring old airplanes I searched for the Comshymand-Aire drawings but determined that they had all been destroyed However in my search I did locate some valuable type deshysign data from a most unusual source which might be fuel for anshyother story
In the mid 1930s the aviation inshydustry continued to grow By an act of Congress the government creshyated the Civil Aeronautics Administration (CAA) The CAA took regulations created by the Aeronautics Branch of the Departshyment of Commerce and expanded its bureaucratic role in aviation It created Civil Aviation Regulations (CAR) and Civil Aviation Manuals (CAM) Requirements of approved type were now contained in the CARs CAR 3 was certification for small aircraft Also to appear was the mechanics bible CAM 18 which spelled out requirements for major repairs to aircraft This publishycation evolved into the present FAA Advisory Circulars AC4313-1B andshy2B which give data on major repairs and alterations
The annual re-certificating of airshycraft was still required and a new airworthiness certificate was given to the owner after the airplane was approved for return to service As the workload increased a new method of certificating was created DeSignated aircraft maintenance inshyspectors (DAM I) were selected to take over the re-certificating duties These were well-experienced airshy
craft and engine (AampE) mechanics that were hand selected by local CAA maintenance inspectors The airworthiness certificate was still isshysued every year but in the mid-1950s about the time that the Federal Aviation Agency (FAA) came to power things began to change for airworthiness certificates They became permanent The aircraft could be re-certificated every year by a DAMI and later by an FAA airshyframe and powerplant (AampP) mechanic who holds an inspection authorization (IA) So today the AampP with IA can return to service annual inspections many major reshypairs and some major alterations
Congress created the Federal Avishyation Agency in 1958 Soon after the word II Agency was dropped in favor of II Administration And government control and bureaushycracy continued to grow ever larger
While we are on the subject of the FAA perhaps an easy method to distinguish differences between mashyjor repairs and major alterations is to apply the following
If the repair returns the aircraft to its original type certificate afshyfects airworthiness and cannot be done using elementary techniques then it is a major repair
If the repair (or modification) alshyters conformity to the original type design data then it is a major alteration
If an AampP mechanic cannot apshyprove a major repair or major alteration then a field approval by an FAA maintenance inspector must be obtained Sometimes this is more complicated than can be imagined Maybe a future story on FAA field approvals would prove inshyteresting
If an aircraft has never had a pershymanent airworthiness certificate then one must be obtained Here again the FAA issues this certifishycate To obtain that treasured piece of paper you must fill out an applishy
cation and prove that the airplane conforms to its type certificate Sometimes this is very difficult Esshypecially if the original type design data is incomplete or missing I have seen file cabinets in FAA headshyquarters with drawers containing type design data Just like Joe Juptshyners US Civil Aircraft books each drawer had a folder with the ATC number on top Some of the folders contained data while some were empty When the folder was empty the FAA had no type design data other than data that was published in Aircraft Engine and Propeller Listing which is not very much
For the coveted permanent airshyworthiness certificate an FAA representative will conduct a conshyformity inspection The basis for the inspection could be one or more of the following FAA Airshycraft Engine and Propeller Listing or Specification Sheets microfiche of original aircraft records containshying airworthiness and registration data factory drawings (if available) and aircraft and engine operating limitations
In addition current weight and balance calculations with critical forward and aft loading (if reshyquired) a loading schedule (if required) and appropriate placardshying must be included A list of required optional and special equipment must accompany the weight and balance data And lastly FAA Form 337 (Major Repair amp Mashyjor Alteration) must be completed by the supervising AampPIA Aircraft and engine logbooks must have apshypropriate entries made and registration data must be shown After many months (or should I say years) of restoration work perhaps that small piece of paper that says PERMANENT AIRWORTHINESS CERTIFICATE-STANDARD is now in your hand Categories of the airshyworthiness certificate are NORMAL UTILITY and ACROBATIC
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Mike Sleineke
Yeah well just strip it and paint it
Shouldnt take more than a month Thats what Ronnie Cox and Greg Davis of Ft Lauderdale Florida said about their 1962 250 Comanche
Sound familiar That kind of comshyment is right up there with Well just clean up a few of the instrushyments or Gee wouldnt it look better with a new windshield
Not once in the history of vinshytage con tern porary airplanes has anyone
1 Removed just one part painted it and put it right back on without removing a bunch more first
2 Started to do just one restoration operation eg re-bush the landing gear and done only that one thing
3 Taken an engine off overhauled it and put it back on without redoshying everything in sight
4 Reupholstered just the front seats and stopped there
You get the picture Airplanes are a lot like tar babies and once you get
your fingers into them they generally suck you in right up to your navel and don t let you go until theres nothing left to do
Ronnie and Greg were both lookshying for a serious cross-country airplane they could use to run from Florida up to Ronnies summer house in the Michigan islands Ronnie had owned three Comanches in the past so that was his bird of choice For Greg it would be his first airplane ownership
Ronnie had a long history of airshyplane ownership and involvement because his dad was heavily involved in aircraft and used to fly him all over the country Plus he owned a long string of airplanes including a PT-19 and a bunch of Pipers including Tri-Pacers Pacers and such
Ronnie started flying while he was still based in Ohio in the 1960s
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The 2S0-hp six-cylinder Lycoming gives the Comanche Bonanza-rivaling speed (a cruise of 161 to 181 mph) and a useful load carrying capacity of up to 1200 pounds
Updated radios and a refurbished interior make the Comanche a comfortable cross-country speedster
and his wife and son learned to fly from the same CFI who taught both his father and him to fly
Cox an elecshytrical engineer by training had started his own enshygineering business years ago and even worked a Seneca II into it for corposhyrate transportation so by the time the 1962 Comanche entered thei r lives he had 5500 hours of flying time He recently sought a change in career and sold his business to fly for a comshymuter airline
Ronnie also had a business buildshying engines for drag racers that Greg said really helped because Ronshynie just has a feel for what has to be done to a machine mechanically to make it right
Cox enjoyed rebuilding airplanes almost from the beginning and his total restoration of a Cessna 140 won a Lindy Award as recognition that he was a hands-on kind of guy who farmed out as little of his airplane reshybuilding projects as possible However it was in looking for a little help while his son and he were reshybuilding his sons Cessna 120 (which also won a Lindy) that he met Greg Davis
We needed to have some alushyminum bent to make up a new spar doubler for the 120 Ronnie said and someone suggested we contact
this guy on the other side of the field Ronnie
laughed when he said this inshydicating something was coming We walked in with the original
doubler in our hand which was a litshytle crude and showed it to Greg This
was the first time Id laid eyes on him Ronnie said
He looked at the doubler threw it down and said No I cant make something like this I thought he was joking or something Then he said If I make it itll be better than that Greg can be a little cantankerous and Ronnie Cox laughed again
Greg Davis has run Davis Aircraft Services in Ft Lauderdale since 1985 and he specializes in doing structural repairs on corporate airplanes As such he has developed both the facilshyity and ability to do practically anything with sheet metal So beshytween Ronnies mechanical ability and Gregs feeling for sheet metal there was practically nothing they couldnt do to a little airplane
I had been part of an RV-4 buildshying project but got out of it because I was just too busy flying a friends Pitts S-2B Greg explained He said I could fly it as much as I wanted so I started competing and between that and work I didnt really have the time to own my own airplane
There was something about the chemistry between the two men that prompted them to want a cross-counshy
try airplane that could carry two guys 120 gallons of gas and our bagshygage Enter the Comanche
They ran into the airplane in Aushygust 1992 and it was a really sad example of the breed but the price was right and the sheet metal looked good Also it had no corrosion
Then they started comparing the logbooks to the actual airplane and found that someone had a fanciful imagination when it came to the defishynition of airworthiness directive (AD) compliance The Comanche has a bunch of fairly serious and expenshysive ADs Ronnie pointed out Over the years someone had been signing off the ADs but not doing them As they put it the airplane had about 25 years of pencil maintenance
We found a perfect example of how well this airplane was mainshytained when we replaced the tires One of the tubes was dated 1962 and had been on the airplane since it was built Greg said
The airplane had also been landed gear-up at some point in its career Again the previous keepers of the logs didnt see fit to mention this litshytle incident There were a bunch of scab patches on the belly we had to get rid of and we put new gear doors on it
Their approach to the sheet metal was simple If a panel needed a repair they would just replace the panel We re-skinned part of the turtledeck
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WHAT OUR MEMBERS ARE RESTORING by HG Frautschy and Norm Petersen
AERONCA 7DC Sitting on the grass at Lee Bottom Airport near Louisville Kentucky Mark
and Wendie Paszkiewiczs (VAA 580997) 1946 Aeronca 7DC is ready for a flight in the warm hazy skies along the Ohio River First delivered as a 7 AC to a Phoenix Arizona flight school in 1946 with the installation of a Conshytinental 85-hp engine it became an Aeronca 7De Partially restored when they bought the project Mark and Wendie couldnt resist rebuilding some parts Now they fly the Champ around to local fly-ins and just have fun in it after work
CHAMPION 7GCB Posed in the afternoon sunshine of Sky
Harbor Airport in Duluth Minnesota is a beautiful 1962 Champion 7GCB N9912Y serial number 7GCB-133 mounted on an immaculate set of PKshy1800 floats Recently re-covered and painted by veteran mechanic Don Macor (VAA 28788) of Duluth Minnesota this particular aircraft is quite rare in that it has only 706 hours total time on airframe and engine has a factory original outside baggage compartment door and is one of only six 7GCBs remaining on the US Register In addition during its entire 39shyyear lifespan only one authorized inspectors name is in the aircraft logshybooks-Don Macor Don reports the airframe was in very good shape with only minor surface rust on a few places The covering is Ceconite 101 with bushytyrate dope in Daytona white Miami blue and black trim Note the seaplane auxiliary fins on the stabilizers necessary with the added mass of the floats ahead of the CG
Unusual to this model of 150 hp Champion is the outside baggage door on the right side of the fuselage seen here in the open position and ready for access to the baggage compartment
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because we removed the beacon It takes alshymost as long to patch the hole correctly as it does to replace the enshytire panel and then you dont have that ugly patch up there
The same thing held true for the cowlshying which they say is a weak point in a Coshymanche Building a new one consumed an enormous amount of time
Comanche control surfaces are reshyally thin mostly 016 and 020 so it doesnt take much to bend them up This airplane had apparently seen some hail that was heavy enough to dent the control surfaces but not the rest of the airplane so Greg said we re-skinned most of the control surfaces
Early in the project when the pair realized the airplane was going to take more than simply stripping and painting they decided on a specific goal We wanted to make it a truly modern airplane almost a new one so we could depend on it So we did everything but de-mate the wing We removed every single wire and sysshytem in the entire airplane and rebuilt every part of it according to Ronnie
When it came to the avionics Greg said it was really grungy It had Mark 12 radios in it and by the time we were done removing layers and layers of old wiring we took about SO pounds of wires out
Part of making it a modern airshyplane meant building reliability into everything ahead of the firewall We put a 260-hp exhaust system on it along with a lightweight starter new mags and most important we put a new fuel pump on it and had it flowshychecked Weve had some really tragic accidents in the Comanche community because the fuel pump was working but it wasnt putting out enough to feed the engine at takeoff power
According to the pair the landing
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gear is another area that needs careful examination because it wears out quickly We pulled every bushing and part of the gear and found that much of it was really sloppy This makes it hard to rig and contributes to gear collapses We dont know the history to our airplanes accident but that could have played a part
Naturally everything in the inteshyrior was replaced including a new panel with modern everything and they installed shoulder harnesses at the same time To keep their passenshygers happy they installed a small TV set with a VCR in the back seat They also installed a 14-inch thick big windshield and routed the edges down so it would fit flush into the original mounting channels
It took five years to get the airshyplane ready to fly and then it took another three months to get the pashyperwork completed We filed eight 337s and one field approval Because I do so many similar things with the corporate aircraft I just approached this one the same way Greg Davis said I filed them all through a DER (deSignated engineering representashytive) but rather than doing them locally I invited the FAA to come up and take a look at the airplane
They are obviously proud of the FAAs reaction to the way they apshyproached their project II After they came up the first time they brought another group of guys up to take a look at it They told us they wanted everyone in their office to see this beshy
cause this is the way they like to see an airshyplane and the supshyporting paperwork done Seems like theres a lesson for the rest of us in there somewhere
Ronnie Cox said The Comanche is a great airplane but like all airplanes if it needs extensive work it can be really expensive if you dont do it yourshyself Theres an old
saying about Piper products Made by farmers for farmers and its true The airplane is really easy to work on but the best thing you can do is make sure you get a good airplane in the first place
Cox has a number of pOints that he said every wannabe Comanche owner should satisfy before he or she buys a particular airplane Besides the normal over-all condition stuff that affects every airplane there are some specifics which include
bull AD list and compliance-Undershystand what airworthiness directives affect the airplane and make sure they were actually done
bull Gear condition-Look for cracked knuckles and measure as many internal dimensions as posshysible
bull Gear-up damage-Gear-up landshyings often crush the structure that the gear motor is attached to Make sure it was repaired properly
bull Flap track condition-The flap tracks wear and need to be carefully checked
bull Flap motor-The flap actuation system and especially the motor have to be checked for condition
The CoxDavis Comanche has more than 200 hours on it now and its owners (or should they be called creators) say it does exactly what they wanted it to do It lets them go long distances in comfort and they have the peace of mind that comes from knowing everything within that airplane was done right
CHAMPION 7ED7FC Ownerpilot Mike Foote (VAA 365457) wrote to us concerning his terrific restoration IIManufactured by Champion Aircraft in 1959 N8539E began life as a Tri-Champ In 1983 it was convelted to a taidragshy
gerl but only 12 short flight hours later life changed dramatically for N8539E when it was severely damaged in a windstorm The ownerls initial impression was that it would never fly again The remains went through several owners each intent upon restorationl but finding the task a daunting onel each chose instead to pass it along to someone else with more ambition My tum came in July of1995 After 15 months ofintense restoration efforts N8539E became a plane again on October 261 1996 1 flew the plane from my home base in Olathel Kansas to Oshkosh in 1997 and had it judged in the Contemporary category My efforts were rewardedl as the Champion was selected as the Outstanding Champion aircraft for that year It is still going strong and is just as satisfying to fly today as it was for the first time II
TAYLORCRAFf DC-65
Chet Peek (VAA 13458) author of terrific books such as The First Cub and Resurrection ofa Jenny has gotshyten back into flying after losing his airplanes and Norman Oklahoma hangar during a tornado in 1998 Chefs bought Bruce Bixlers Taylorshycraft DC-65 This DC-65 is one of the rare early Taylorcraft Tandems which had aluminum spars and ribs A few in the same series became the first Taylorcraft L-2 liaison airplanes Chefs airplane is finished in the Civilian Training Programs colors of blue and yellow
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September Mystery Plane
by HG Frautschy
This months Mystery Plane is a rare metal plane from the collection of Pete Bowers
Send your answer to EAA Vinshytage Airp lane PO Box 3086 Oshkosh WI 54903-3086 Your anshyswer needs to be in no later than October 15 for inclusion in the Deshycember issue of Vintage Airplane
You can also send your response via e-m ail Send your answer to vintageeaaorg
Be sure to include both your name and address (especially your city and state) in the body of your not e and put (Month) Mystery Plane in the subject line
Plenty of you knew the June Mysshytery Plane surely one of those Don t you wish there was just one of th ese left kind of airplanes Heres our first letter
The Mystery Plane in the June 2001 edition of Vintage Airplane is an Ireshyland N-2 Neptune
Ireland N-2 Nep
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G Sumner Ireland had been an engineer for Curtiss up to 1926 He later formed Ireland Aircraft Inc at Curshytiss Field Garden City and marketed th e Ireland Comet Meteor Privateer and Neptune Th e N-2B Neptune (circa 1927) was a four-pla ce amphibian powshyered by a 300-hp Wright J-6 while the N-2C Nepshytun e was a fiv e-place amphibian with a 450-hp PampWWasp
Thomas H Lymburn Princeton Minnesota
And more on the various models of the Neptune
The June Mystery Plane is the Amshyphibians Incorporated Model N-2B or N-2C with either PampW Wa sp engine or the Wright Whirlwind 300 in the five- or six-place amphibian Modificashytions from the Ireland A ircraft Inc Model ND5-ND6 include strut covers and increased bow angle on the tip floats and an extended main hull float behind the step The three views are from the Aircraft Yearbook 3- View
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Drawings 1903-1946 Russ Brown Lyndhurst Ohio
With Juptn ers U S Civil A ircraft this one didn t take long to idenshytify Vol 2 p ages 151-153 for ATC 153 des cribes th e Ireland Neptun e N-2B With enough clarity in th e photo to note the license as NC-88K its listed as L ____v
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and had a 300-hp Wright J-6 engine (affirmed by the long rocker-box eavshyers) (Abo ut this time some models were being upgraded with a 450 PampW Wasp for the model N-2C-ATC 248)
Ive always been very appreciative of Joe Juptners good coverage of all the ATCd US aircraft Over the years Ive been building scale models of more obshyscure aircraft as a hobby Ive drawn many of my plans from photos and dishymensions in US Civil Aircraft In fact I have a plan I drew for the Nepshytune N-2C though Ive not built it yet Thats why I recognized the June Mysshytery plane was a Neptune I lived in Ecuador for about 45 years and made most of the models of jungle hardshywoods in 1 32 scale
Bub Borman Dallas Texas
Junes Mystery Plane was easy It is Irelands Neptune NC-89K shown on page 143 of us Civil Aircraft Vol 3
by Juptner Both pictures were probably taken the same day Note the man at left in both pictures same suit hat and tie Note the taped wire or tube on left wing forward strut
Excuse this old typewriter Im 81 and darned ifIll get a new one now
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Ju st a note to say I think the Jun e Mystery Plane is one of the Ireland Airshycraft Inc Neptune series
G Sumner Irelands ideas on flying boats pre-date this N-2C version by several years so the name was not new to aviation
Th e N-2C for the June issue was one of about nine built in late 1929 and the early 1930s
It was powered by a 450-hp Pratt amp Whitn ey Wasp and had a chromoly frame around which were bulkheads of duralumin to which were fastened
formers and then the outer aluminum skin
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Weve gotten plenty of comshyments about the article concerning bulging fabric While it wasnt part of my column originally many of you have addressed your comments to me so Ill check in on the freshyquency
Before we get to that Id like to update you on the status of our Champ airworthiness directive compliance It went fine as you may recall reading in my July colshyumn but a funny thing happened after flying a bit in the rain-the paint we sprayed over the patches has started to come off Dang Usshying MEK I thought Id completely removed the lemon-scented furnishyture polish I use regularly to clean the leading edges but I guess I was wrong The paint on the leading edges is beginning to peel HG and I wonder if they put any silishycone in the polish Doesnt say so on the can but maybe its a secret ingredient The peeling paint makes the new name (see photo on page 26) for the Champ even more accurate
Lets get on with the loose fabric discussion
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First loose fabric is a hazard for a couple of reasons Loose fabric can chafe against fairing strips and fasshyteners weakening it If a fabric edge is caught in the slipstream it can easily be torn away The results can be disastrous If it gets tangled up with a control surface it can even cause a loss of control and at the very least the loose wildly flapping fabric can be a huge distraction Heres what some others had to say I cant say I agree with everyones comments but it certainly is intershyesting to see how fabrics are being applied in shops around the world Heres our first note
You must have received a lot of comments about the Stinsons bulging fabric Ill give you my 2~ worth
Ive re-covered at least four during the past 45 years and dozens of reshycovering jobs on many types of aircraft Ive used cotton Irish linen Ceconite Razorback and Stits Im sticking with Ceconite 101 which [ like best I like the smell of dope beshysides all the other good features
When I tighten Ceconite I set my iron at 400degF to 450degF ] do the initial
tightening with a heat gun Then] work it with the iron evenly until] can feel the right tautness Thats just the right drumming sound and feel After the first coat ofprimer nishytrate dope there may be a few slack areas I then go over them again but never holding the iron in one place very long
Every Stinson I re-covered had screws on the four stringers on top of the fuselage from the windshield back about 3 or 4 feet spaced 3 or 4 inches apart ] just looked at three Stinsons on our flight line and they all have the screws
Don Macor Duluth Minnesota
Dons method might work well for him but Id hesitate to suggest it to anyone else In particular the use of a heat gun is prohibited in the Poly-Fiber and other process manuals that deal with the installashytion of Dacron fabric Uneven heat application is the reason it is disshycouraged Id also point out that the Cooper Superflight manual among others highlights the fact that Dacron fabric will start to m~lt
when heated above 450degF Thats why Don says he does not linger too long when shrinking the fabric with an iron set above 400degF
I just received my July issue of Vinshytage Airplane I always look forward to its arriva l That cover photo of the Stearman is beautiful Hats off to Jim Koepnick who does such a great job ofphotographing these old planes
I was drawn to the article on page 4 Is that Covering too Slack I have an uncovered Stinson 108-3 sitting in my garage so perhaps I can shed some light on some of the details about covshyering the Stinson 108 series In the article someone said Id be tempted to rib-stitch the fabric to the upper stringers on the fuselage Id suggest avoiding that temptation The Stinson used 4 PK screws to attach the fabric to the ribs and to the stringers above the fuselage I know because I have a coffee can with hundreds of these screws that I removed from my plane Above the fuselage there are four hatshysection aluminum stringers On my Stinson the fabric was attached to each of these stringers with 10 PK screws at 3-inch intervals beginning aft of the leading edge and running back just aft of the rear spar I believe thats how it was done originally I would not suggest rib-stitching beshycause the sharp edges of the hat-section stringers would cut the lacing And of course there is the matter of legality Rib-stitching would be a modification from the original construction certainly not appropriate in this situation
The photo on page 5 shows apparshyent ballooning of the fabric over the cabin area of the fuselage but theres more to this than meets the eye At the Stinson factory a blanket of fibershyglass insulation was installed above the cabin Old photos show this insushylation installed above the stringers I believe the fabric was then attached through the insulation to the stringers with the PK screws That puffy look above the cabin may be caused (at least in part) by the insulation Ive
We had a couple of folks ask if we could show a comparison shot highlighting loose fabric with the Stinson as an example In 1999 EAAs crack photo staff took air-to-air photos of a couple of Stinsons The top photo shows the fabric ballooning above the cabin In the lower photo the airplane restored by noted Stinson 108 rebuilder Butch Walsh of Arrington Virginia clearly shows the 4 PK (Parker-Kalon) screws that secure the fabric to the cabin roof stringers before the finishing tapes are applied
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discussion Im sure there are others out there who know more about this than I do Id enjoy hearing from anyshyone interes ted in Stinsons I have a website that I call Hangar 9 Aeroworks It features my project and other information on the 108-series Stinsons The URL is wwwhangar9 aeroworkscom
John Baker Damascus Maryland
Dip and HG were the first to agree with the members who wrote and called in to take them to ta sk for not confirming the exact method of attachment used by Stinson The intent of the original write-up was not to compos e a Stinson maintenance manual but to highlight the hazards inherent in any fabric job that is not propshyerly installed Our comments were meant to elicit a response from the membership in cluding expe rts like Butch Walsh Boy did they ever respond
Each of us is required to confirm the exact methods us ed by the manufacturer or subsequently apshyproved modifications and to scrupulously duplicate those methshyods The type certificate drawings and other information are often
seen Stinsons with the original type insulation that had the puffy look while sitting quietly on the ground
Dip Davis is correct that the Stinshyson did not originally cover the tanks on the 108s though Ive seen many restorations with the tanks covered There can be a bit of a problem with fabric tapes not adhering well to the perimeter of the tanks In fact I had a few tapes come loose once on a trip to EAA Chapter 643 s fl y-in at Pittstown New Jersey in 1993 A litshytle contact cem ent and some help from Chapter 643 got me back home okay Shortly after that I decided it was time for a complete re-cover job
Here s one more item about balshylooning fabric on the Stinson 108s that I learned from Stinson guru Butch Walsh The cabin fresh air intakes are on the leading edge of th e wing (as shown on page 17 of th e March issue of Vintage Airplane) Th ese vents feed into a chamber inside the inboard rib bay This chamber is not sealed very well so forced air spills out into the wing as well as into the cabin Taking care to seal this chamshyber can eliminate some problems with fabric on the inboard portion of th e wing and will provide more fresh air in the cabin
I hope this will contribute to the
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After we compiled with AD 2000shy25-02 the Champ looked a bit more shop-worn so we gave it a new name
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Dont blindly follow the lead of someone who may have restored the airplane in the past-they ma y have missed something that is required How many times have you seen a poorly placed inspection hole only to hear II But that was the way it was inshystalled on the airplane when I got it I Only the factory drawings and any supplemental type certifishy
cates (STC) or other approved modifications can change the aircrafts legal configushyration and the method of fabric installation is part of that configushyration
As both HG and I have pOinted out in the past the covering supshypliers have specific instructions on how their covering methods are to be installed Since covering with the Poly-Fiber Cooper Superflight Ai r-Tech or other processes were not included in the type certificate for the airplanes that we were dealshying with here an STC for their installation was obtained by the resp ective companies If their method is not followed you run the risk of having the covering job re jected by an IA (AampP with inshyspection authorization) mechanic andor the FAA for not conformshying to the STC If an STCd part is installed on an aircraft and the methods spelled out in the STC are not followed the aircraft is unshyairworthy Un-airworthy aircraft dont have very good resale values and besides you can t fly them And thats the point of all of this right Let s get out there do it right and fly safely
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fuselage was red and the tail surshyfaces were silver I was absolutely thrilled to just touch it I was only 17 years old and wondered how in the world I would ever come up with $80 for the airplane It was beautiful even though it most likely needed a complete rebuild to airshyworthy condition As partial payment for my work as a line boy I had been taking dual instruction in a Piper J-3C65 I wondered if I could even fly this airplane
At about this time I was also getshyting into serious bicycle racing through my friend Phil Kittredge who was already the Connecticut State Junior Champion He was not a pilot but agreed to be a partner in this endeavor Between us we came up with $15 as a down payment which we gave to Steve with a promise to get the rest as soon as we could
I went to work setting pins in loshycal bowling alleys and did some caddying at Yale Golf Course near where I lived both good jobs for a teenager at that time Phil and I
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These two shots are from the collection of Shelby Hagberg and are of the very ship forshymerly owned by then 17-yearshyold Ev Cassagneres Its a 1929 Command-Aire 3C-3T NC901 E serial number 614 Taken at Curtiss Field on Long Island New York The airplane was painted with silver wings and horizontal tail surface and a red fuselage and rudder
could not seem to raise enough cash to satisfy the airplane owner so we lost out on the deal and he kept the 15 bucks Of course we were devastated
In the meantime a local affluent gentleman who also collected anshytique automobiles managed to purchase the Command-Aire He had it moved out in the country in the town of Bethany It sat there out in a field with the wings laid out in the grass of an open field deterioratshying in the elements Occasionally I would cycle out there to look at it touch it and dream or fantasize
On January 21 1946 the new owner who knew who I was and that I was interested in the airplane called me and asked if I was still inshyterested He said he would sell it on a trade basis Needless to say I would come up with something
I happened to have a French-built Automoto bicycle that I was quite fond of but would be willing to part with It was worth about $80 so we did an even swap Now I had to find a place to put it and figure out a way
to get it home about 5 miles My friend Phil came to the rescue
again You see my own parents never did own a car or have drivers licenses Phil had the use of his fashythers 1937 Plymouth four-door car So we tied the tailskid in the trunk with clothesline rope and put the wings on the roof secured with ropes tied all over the place
We started out to drive the 5 miles to my house in Westville Well two young sporty guys couldshynt just go straight there and that would be that could they We realshyized that the local high school was due out at 230 in the afternoon So we just happened to detour with all of this interesting cargo over some hills to the school and we got there just as the students were getshyting out Many we knew and of course we directed our attention mainly to the girls So whats the story they would ask and that was all we needed We ahem had just flown down from some exotic place in northern Canada and planned on rebuilding the airplane for some other exotic adventure It was amazshying how convincing we could be and how gullible they were We did all of this while wearing an old pair of gogshygles and a helmet and with mischievous faces they still believed us so we let it go at that We laughed all the way home
The airplane sat in my backyard the rest of the winter as I worked on it although I really did not know what I was doing I did get the enshygine running a couple of times The sound and smell was exciting like a concert orchestra to me My parents gave me a lot of encouragement and enjoyed my project
However my enthusiasm and fanshytasy of flight were not to last very long We lived on the third floor of a three-family house and the landlord was not at all happy over this kid having an airplane in the backyard of our neighborhood So it had to go What to do We did not own a car so no garage was available and I could not find any other suitable
This shot taken at Curtiss Field as well clearly shows the split-axle landing gear and Fokker Dvll-styled wing center section as designed by famed aero engineer Albert Voellmecke
place for it So the bottom line was simple-I had to sell it And I never even took a picture of it nor did any of the neighbors
A schoolmate of mine by the name of Billy Gilbert also a stushydent pilot showed some interest and he lived in the town of Bethany That town had a grass runway airport and it was one of the oldest airports in New Engshyland where supposedly American Airlines got started Famous aviashytors had flown out of there names such as Bert Acosta Clarence Chamberlin Guss Graff Jack Tweed Franklin T Hank Kurt Bob Noorduyn (Norseman) and Batch Pond (Pond Creams) (The Bethany airport managed to stay in existence until the early 1980s)
On May 291946 Billy Gilbert came to the house with a farm rack truck and $30 loaded up the airshyplane and drove away That was the last time I saw it as r stood there and cried However I had hidden the propeller in our basement and still
have it as a memento in addition to a section of wing fabric with the black number NC901E on it
So what became of that old airshyplane Billy wen t into the Navy and his parents eventually sold the ship to a local junk and scrap dealer who was mainly interested in the OX engine That was the end of it I searched many years later but it was gone
Years later I came across many Command-Aire photographs and the ones shown with this article are all I have of that fond memory
Sometime after that I owned a 1941 Waco UPF-7 which I made my first dollar with by towing signs allover the place out of the Bethany airport and then a 1936 Ryan ST and now I have a 1953 Cessna 170B which I fly often (my first closed-in type)
Sometimes for old times sake r will fly the 170 with helmet and goggles and white scarf and the winshydows open See one never loses the thrill of real flight
In closing I can say that if one wants to fly bad enough one will find a way It is a healthy disease that can be most appreciated as you feel the wind in your face up in the air over our beautiful countryside
What else do I do now for fun My new book The Untold Story of The Spirit Of St Louis will be out next year 2002 the 75th annivershysary of Lindberghs epic flight This book has been a labor of love for decades and it will be published by Historic Aviation Books
When that is done I plan to write the history of Command-Aire and also some Connecticut aviation hisshytory In particular Im going to document the stories of the Cairns airplane the Kimball Beetle sevenshycylinder aircraft radial engine the Scorpion aircraft engine the Bristol gliders that were manufactured on Edgewood Avenue near the Acme Auto Top Company (see story) and the Bourdon- and Viking-built Kitty Hawk airplanes
After that I may retire
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 11
TYPE CLUB
Some Thoughts on Restoration and Airworthiness Originally appeared in Waco World News Vol I No 36 MaylJune 2001
by Robert G Lock
Restoring an airplane is a lot like flying-hours and hours of someshytimes boring work separated by a few moments of stark terror As one approaches the end of a restoration project there comes a time for certishyfication by the FAA unless the airplane has a permanent airworthishyness certificate Receiving that all-important permanent standard airworthiness certificate is the final objective This article will give some background on past certification procedures especially for airplanes that go back to the beginning of government rules and regulations
Governments entry into aviashytion essentially began with the creation of the Aeronautics Branch of the Department of Commerce Near the top of the agenda of the new bureaucracy was the certificatshying of airplanes pilots and eventually mechanics Approved type certificates (ATC) began in March 1927 and continue to this day Registration numbers were reshyquired and were painted on the wings and tail The Roman capital letter N denoting registration in the United States followed by the letter C for commercial X for
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experimental R for restricted and L for limited were adopted Design requirements needed for an ATC were contained in Aeronautics Bulletin 7 later 7A ATCs were numshybered sequentia lly beginning with 1 and ending with 817 (a new ATC numbering system was introduced after number 817) The certificating of pilots and later mechanics closely followed as the government tried to regulate the beginning of the aviation industry
Obtaining an ATC to manufacshyture and sell an airplane was costly even in the early days Group 2 apshyprovals were awarded to a person or company when only a limited numshyber of aircraft were to be built either as a new design or as a modification of an existing airplane being manushyfactured under an ATe The Group 2 approvals were cheaper and easier to obtain but design and manufacshyture were equiva lent to approved type cert ificates
An important item to remember is that if an airplane was designed to Aeronautics Bulletin 7 or 7A it still must meet those requirements toshyday So for some restorers a copy of this manual is helpful
Another bit of information critishycal to certification is that there were no permanent airworthiness certifishycates in the old days A representative of the government re -certificated the airplane annushyally and a new airworthiness certificate was issued The papershywork f i le in Washington DC became immense There was a file folder for each registered aircraft and all hard copy paperwork was meticulously maintained Even telegrams were retained
Each file folder was a complete diary of the airplane from owners to inspections and repairs Some of this data is available today on mishycrofiche For most all aircraft the original hard copy files have been placed on microfiche and then the hard copy fi les were destroyed I have seen original files that are still stored in Suitland Maryland Most of those files are not on microfiche
ATC data is also known as type design data Type design data can be found in the Aircraft Listing Enshygine Listing and Prope ll er Listing (for fewer than SO airp lanes regisshytered) and in the Aircraft Engine and Propeller Specification Sheets
for the middle-aged aircraft For airplanes of this vintage this
is the only source of data for the reshystorer If youre really lucky there may be copies of original factory drawings available as a valuable supplement However most of the factory drawings for many antique aircraft have been destroyed Fortushynately for Waco restorers factory drawings are available Drawings are invaluable when restoring old airplanes I searched for the Comshymand-Aire drawings but determined that they had all been destroyed However in my search I did locate some valuable type deshysign data from a most unusual source which might be fuel for anshyother story
In the mid 1930s the aviation inshydustry continued to grow By an act of Congress the government creshyated the Civil Aeronautics Administration (CAA) The CAA took regulations created by the Aeronautics Branch of the Departshyment of Commerce and expanded its bureaucratic role in aviation It created Civil Aviation Regulations (CAR) and Civil Aviation Manuals (CAM) Requirements of approved type were now contained in the CARs CAR 3 was certification for small aircraft Also to appear was the mechanics bible CAM 18 which spelled out requirements for major repairs to aircraft This publishycation evolved into the present FAA Advisory Circulars AC4313-1B andshy2B which give data on major repairs and alterations
The annual re-certificating of airshycraft was still required and a new airworthiness certificate was given to the owner after the airplane was approved for return to service As the workload increased a new method of certificating was created DeSignated aircraft maintenance inshyspectors (DAM I) were selected to take over the re-certificating duties These were well-experienced airshy
craft and engine (AampE) mechanics that were hand selected by local CAA maintenance inspectors The airworthiness certificate was still isshysued every year but in the mid-1950s about the time that the Federal Aviation Agency (FAA) came to power things began to change for airworthiness certificates They became permanent The aircraft could be re-certificated every year by a DAMI and later by an FAA airshyframe and powerplant (AampP) mechanic who holds an inspection authorization (IA) So today the AampP with IA can return to service annual inspections many major reshypairs and some major alterations
Congress created the Federal Avishyation Agency in 1958 Soon after the word II Agency was dropped in favor of II Administration And government control and bureaushycracy continued to grow ever larger
While we are on the subject of the FAA perhaps an easy method to distinguish differences between mashyjor repairs and major alterations is to apply the following
If the repair returns the aircraft to its original type certificate afshyfects airworthiness and cannot be done using elementary techniques then it is a major repair
If the repair (or modification) alshyters conformity to the original type design data then it is a major alteration
If an AampP mechanic cannot apshyprove a major repair or major alteration then a field approval by an FAA maintenance inspector must be obtained Sometimes this is more complicated than can be imagined Maybe a future story on FAA field approvals would prove inshyteresting
If an aircraft has never had a pershymanent airworthiness certificate then one must be obtained Here again the FAA issues this certifishycate To obtain that treasured piece of paper you must fill out an applishy
cation and prove that the airplane conforms to its type certificate Sometimes this is very difficult Esshypecially if the original type design data is incomplete or missing I have seen file cabinets in FAA headshyquarters with drawers containing type design data Just like Joe Juptshyners US Civil Aircraft books each drawer had a folder with the ATC number on top Some of the folders contained data while some were empty When the folder was empty the FAA had no type design data other than data that was published in Aircraft Engine and Propeller Listing which is not very much
For the coveted permanent airshyworthiness certificate an FAA representative will conduct a conshyformity inspection The basis for the inspection could be one or more of the following FAA Airshycraft Engine and Propeller Listing or Specification Sheets microfiche of original aircraft records containshying airworthiness and registration data factory drawings (if available) and aircraft and engine operating limitations
In addition current weight and balance calculations with critical forward and aft loading (if reshyquired) a loading schedule (if required) and appropriate placardshying must be included A list of required optional and special equipment must accompany the weight and balance data And lastly FAA Form 337 (Major Repair amp Mashyjor Alteration) must be completed by the supervising AampPIA Aircraft and engine logbooks must have apshypropriate entries made and registration data must be shown After many months (or should I say years) of restoration work perhaps that small piece of paper that says PERMANENT AIRWORTHINESS CERTIFICATE-STANDARD is now in your hand Categories of the airshyworthiness certificate are NORMAL UTILITY and ACROBATIC
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 13
Mike Sleineke
Yeah well just strip it and paint it
Shouldnt take more than a month Thats what Ronnie Cox and Greg Davis of Ft Lauderdale Florida said about their 1962 250 Comanche
Sound familiar That kind of comshyment is right up there with Well just clean up a few of the instrushyments or Gee wouldnt it look better with a new windshield
Not once in the history of vinshytage con tern porary airplanes has anyone
1 Removed just one part painted it and put it right back on without removing a bunch more first
2 Started to do just one restoration operation eg re-bush the landing gear and done only that one thing
3 Taken an engine off overhauled it and put it back on without redoshying everything in sight
4 Reupholstered just the front seats and stopped there
You get the picture Airplanes are a lot like tar babies and once you get
your fingers into them they generally suck you in right up to your navel and don t let you go until theres nothing left to do
Ronnie and Greg were both lookshying for a serious cross-country airplane they could use to run from Florida up to Ronnies summer house in the Michigan islands Ronnie had owned three Comanches in the past so that was his bird of choice For Greg it would be his first airplane ownership
Ronnie had a long history of airshyplane ownership and involvement because his dad was heavily involved in aircraft and used to fly him all over the country Plus he owned a long string of airplanes including a PT-19 and a bunch of Pipers including Tri-Pacers Pacers and such
Ronnie started flying while he was still based in Ohio in the 1960s
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The 2S0-hp six-cylinder Lycoming gives the Comanche Bonanza-rivaling speed (a cruise of 161 to 181 mph) and a useful load carrying capacity of up to 1200 pounds
Updated radios and a refurbished interior make the Comanche a comfortable cross-country speedster
and his wife and son learned to fly from the same CFI who taught both his father and him to fly
Cox an elecshytrical engineer by training had started his own enshygineering business years ago and even worked a Seneca II into it for corposhyrate transportation so by the time the 1962 Comanche entered thei r lives he had 5500 hours of flying time He recently sought a change in career and sold his business to fly for a comshymuter airline
Ronnie also had a business buildshying engines for drag racers that Greg said really helped because Ronshynie just has a feel for what has to be done to a machine mechanically to make it right
Cox enjoyed rebuilding airplanes almost from the beginning and his total restoration of a Cessna 140 won a Lindy Award as recognition that he was a hands-on kind of guy who farmed out as little of his airplane reshybuilding projects as possible However it was in looking for a little help while his son and he were reshybuilding his sons Cessna 120 (which also won a Lindy) that he met Greg Davis
We needed to have some alushyminum bent to make up a new spar doubler for the 120 Ronnie said and someone suggested we contact
this guy on the other side of the field Ronnie
laughed when he said this inshydicating something was coming We walked in with the original
doubler in our hand which was a litshytle crude and showed it to Greg This
was the first time Id laid eyes on him Ronnie said
He looked at the doubler threw it down and said No I cant make something like this I thought he was joking or something Then he said If I make it itll be better than that Greg can be a little cantankerous and Ronnie Cox laughed again
Greg Davis has run Davis Aircraft Services in Ft Lauderdale since 1985 and he specializes in doing structural repairs on corporate airplanes As such he has developed both the facilshyity and ability to do practically anything with sheet metal So beshytween Ronnies mechanical ability and Gregs feeling for sheet metal there was practically nothing they couldnt do to a little airplane
I had been part of an RV-4 buildshying project but got out of it because I was just too busy flying a friends Pitts S-2B Greg explained He said I could fly it as much as I wanted so I started competing and between that and work I didnt really have the time to own my own airplane
There was something about the chemistry between the two men that prompted them to want a cross-counshy
try airplane that could carry two guys 120 gallons of gas and our bagshygage Enter the Comanche
They ran into the airplane in Aushygust 1992 and it was a really sad example of the breed but the price was right and the sheet metal looked good Also it had no corrosion
Then they started comparing the logbooks to the actual airplane and found that someone had a fanciful imagination when it came to the defishynition of airworthiness directive (AD) compliance The Comanche has a bunch of fairly serious and expenshysive ADs Ronnie pointed out Over the years someone had been signing off the ADs but not doing them As they put it the airplane had about 25 years of pencil maintenance
We found a perfect example of how well this airplane was mainshytained when we replaced the tires One of the tubes was dated 1962 and had been on the airplane since it was built Greg said
The airplane had also been landed gear-up at some point in its career Again the previous keepers of the logs didnt see fit to mention this litshytle incident There were a bunch of scab patches on the belly we had to get rid of and we put new gear doors on it
Their approach to the sheet metal was simple If a panel needed a repair they would just replace the panel We re-skinned part of the turtledeck
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WHAT OUR MEMBERS ARE RESTORING by HG Frautschy and Norm Petersen
AERONCA 7DC Sitting on the grass at Lee Bottom Airport near Louisville Kentucky Mark
and Wendie Paszkiewiczs (VAA 580997) 1946 Aeronca 7DC is ready for a flight in the warm hazy skies along the Ohio River First delivered as a 7 AC to a Phoenix Arizona flight school in 1946 with the installation of a Conshytinental 85-hp engine it became an Aeronca 7De Partially restored when they bought the project Mark and Wendie couldnt resist rebuilding some parts Now they fly the Champ around to local fly-ins and just have fun in it after work
CHAMPION 7GCB Posed in the afternoon sunshine of Sky
Harbor Airport in Duluth Minnesota is a beautiful 1962 Champion 7GCB N9912Y serial number 7GCB-133 mounted on an immaculate set of PKshy1800 floats Recently re-covered and painted by veteran mechanic Don Macor (VAA 28788) of Duluth Minnesota this particular aircraft is quite rare in that it has only 706 hours total time on airframe and engine has a factory original outside baggage compartment door and is one of only six 7GCBs remaining on the US Register In addition during its entire 39shyyear lifespan only one authorized inspectors name is in the aircraft logshybooks-Don Macor Don reports the airframe was in very good shape with only minor surface rust on a few places The covering is Ceconite 101 with bushytyrate dope in Daytona white Miami blue and black trim Note the seaplane auxiliary fins on the stabilizers necessary with the added mass of the floats ahead of the CG
Unusual to this model of 150 hp Champion is the outside baggage door on the right side of the fuselage seen here in the open position and ready for access to the baggage compartment
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because we removed the beacon It takes alshymost as long to patch the hole correctly as it does to replace the enshytire panel and then you dont have that ugly patch up there
The same thing held true for the cowlshying which they say is a weak point in a Coshymanche Building a new one consumed an enormous amount of time
Comanche control surfaces are reshyally thin mostly 016 and 020 so it doesnt take much to bend them up This airplane had apparently seen some hail that was heavy enough to dent the control surfaces but not the rest of the airplane so Greg said we re-skinned most of the control surfaces
Early in the project when the pair realized the airplane was going to take more than simply stripping and painting they decided on a specific goal We wanted to make it a truly modern airplane almost a new one so we could depend on it So we did everything but de-mate the wing We removed every single wire and sysshytem in the entire airplane and rebuilt every part of it according to Ronnie
When it came to the avionics Greg said it was really grungy It had Mark 12 radios in it and by the time we were done removing layers and layers of old wiring we took about SO pounds of wires out
Part of making it a modern airshyplane meant building reliability into everything ahead of the firewall We put a 260-hp exhaust system on it along with a lightweight starter new mags and most important we put a new fuel pump on it and had it flowshychecked Weve had some really tragic accidents in the Comanche community because the fuel pump was working but it wasnt putting out enough to feed the engine at takeoff power
According to the pair the landing
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gear is another area that needs careful examination because it wears out quickly We pulled every bushing and part of the gear and found that much of it was really sloppy This makes it hard to rig and contributes to gear collapses We dont know the history to our airplanes accident but that could have played a part
Naturally everything in the inteshyrior was replaced including a new panel with modern everything and they installed shoulder harnesses at the same time To keep their passenshygers happy they installed a small TV set with a VCR in the back seat They also installed a 14-inch thick big windshield and routed the edges down so it would fit flush into the original mounting channels
It took five years to get the airshyplane ready to fly and then it took another three months to get the pashyperwork completed We filed eight 337s and one field approval Because I do so many similar things with the corporate aircraft I just approached this one the same way Greg Davis said I filed them all through a DER (deSignated engineering representashytive) but rather than doing them locally I invited the FAA to come up and take a look at the airplane
They are obviously proud of the FAAs reaction to the way they apshyproached their project II After they came up the first time they brought another group of guys up to take a look at it They told us they wanted everyone in their office to see this beshy
cause this is the way they like to see an airshyplane and the supshyporting paperwork done Seems like theres a lesson for the rest of us in there somewhere
Ronnie Cox said The Comanche is a great airplane but like all airplanes if it needs extensive work it can be really expensive if you dont do it yourshyself Theres an old
saying about Piper products Made by farmers for farmers and its true The airplane is really easy to work on but the best thing you can do is make sure you get a good airplane in the first place
Cox has a number of pOints that he said every wannabe Comanche owner should satisfy before he or she buys a particular airplane Besides the normal over-all condition stuff that affects every airplane there are some specifics which include
bull AD list and compliance-Undershystand what airworthiness directives affect the airplane and make sure they were actually done
bull Gear condition-Look for cracked knuckles and measure as many internal dimensions as posshysible
bull Gear-up damage-Gear-up landshyings often crush the structure that the gear motor is attached to Make sure it was repaired properly
bull Flap track condition-The flap tracks wear and need to be carefully checked
bull Flap motor-The flap actuation system and especially the motor have to be checked for condition
The CoxDavis Comanche has more than 200 hours on it now and its owners (or should they be called creators) say it does exactly what they wanted it to do It lets them go long distances in comfort and they have the peace of mind that comes from knowing everything within that airplane was done right
CHAMPION 7ED7FC Ownerpilot Mike Foote (VAA 365457) wrote to us concerning his terrific restoration IIManufactured by Champion Aircraft in 1959 N8539E began life as a Tri-Champ In 1983 it was convelted to a taidragshy
gerl but only 12 short flight hours later life changed dramatically for N8539E when it was severely damaged in a windstorm The ownerls initial impression was that it would never fly again The remains went through several owners each intent upon restorationl but finding the task a daunting onel each chose instead to pass it along to someone else with more ambition My tum came in July of1995 After 15 months ofintense restoration efforts N8539E became a plane again on October 261 1996 1 flew the plane from my home base in Olathel Kansas to Oshkosh in 1997 and had it judged in the Contemporary category My efforts were rewardedl as the Champion was selected as the Outstanding Champion aircraft for that year It is still going strong and is just as satisfying to fly today as it was for the first time II
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Chet Peek (VAA 13458) author of terrific books such as The First Cub and Resurrection ofa Jenny has gotshyten back into flying after losing his airplanes and Norman Oklahoma hangar during a tornado in 1998 Chefs bought Bruce Bixlers Taylorshycraft DC-65 This DC-65 is one of the rare early Taylorcraft Tandems which had aluminum spars and ribs A few in the same series became the first Taylorcraft L-2 liaison airplanes Chefs airplane is finished in the Civilian Training Programs colors of blue and yellow
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September Mystery Plane
by HG Frautschy
This months Mystery Plane is a rare metal plane from the collection of Pete Bowers
Send your answer to EAA Vinshytage Airp lane PO Box 3086 Oshkosh WI 54903-3086 Your anshyswer needs to be in no later than October 15 for inclusion in the Deshycember issue of Vintage Airplane
You can also send your response via e-m ail Send your answer to vintageeaaorg
Be sure to include both your name and address (especially your city and state) in the body of your not e and put (Month) Mystery Plane in the subject line
Plenty of you knew the June Mysshytery Plane surely one of those Don t you wish there was just one of th ese left kind of airplanes Heres our first letter
The Mystery Plane in the June 2001 edition of Vintage Airplane is an Ireshyland N-2 Neptune
Ireland N-2 Nep
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G Sumner Ireland had been an engineer for Curtiss up to 1926 He later formed Ireland Aircraft Inc at Curshytiss Field Garden City and marketed th e Ireland Comet Meteor Privateer and Neptune Th e N-2B Neptune (circa 1927) was a four-pla ce amphibian powshyered by a 300-hp Wright J-6 while the N-2C Nepshytun e was a fiv e-place amphibian with a 450-hp PampWWasp
Thomas H Lymburn Princeton Minnesota
And more on the various models of the Neptune
The June Mystery Plane is the Amshyphibians Incorporated Model N-2B or N-2C with either PampW Wa sp engine or the Wright Whirlwind 300 in the five- or six-place amphibian Modificashytions from the Ireland A ircraft Inc Model ND5-ND6 include strut covers and increased bow angle on the tip floats and an extended main hull float behind the step The three views are from the Aircraft Yearbook 3- View
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Drawings 1903-1946 Russ Brown Lyndhurst Ohio
With Juptn ers U S Civil A ircraft this one didn t take long to idenshytify Vol 2 p ages 151-153 for ATC 153 des cribes th e Ireland Neptun e N-2B With enough clarity in th e photo to note the license as NC-88K its listed as L ____v
production number 43
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and had a 300-hp Wright J-6 engine (affirmed by the long rocker-box eavshyers) (Abo ut this time some models were being upgraded with a 450 PampW Wasp for the model N-2C-ATC 248)
Ive always been very appreciative of Joe Juptners good coverage of all the ATCd US aircraft Over the years Ive been building scale models of more obshyscure aircraft as a hobby Ive drawn many of my plans from photos and dishymensions in US Civil Aircraft In fact I have a plan I drew for the Nepshytune N-2C though Ive not built it yet Thats why I recognized the June Mysshytery plane was a Neptune I lived in Ecuador for about 45 years and made most of the models of jungle hardshywoods in 1 32 scale
Bub Borman Dallas Texas
Junes Mystery Plane was easy It is Irelands Neptune NC-89K shown on page 143 of us Civil Aircraft Vol 3
by Juptner Both pictures were probably taken the same day Note the man at left in both pictures same suit hat and tie Note the taped wire or tube on left wing forward strut
Excuse this old typewriter Im 81 and darned ifIll get a new one now
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Ju st a note to say I think the Jun e Mystery Plane is one of the Ireland Airshycraft Inc Neptune series
G Sumner Irelands ideas on flying boats pre-date this N-2C version by several years so the name was not new to aviation
Th e N-2C for the June issue was one of about nine built in late 1929 and the early 1930s
It was powered by a 450-hp Pratt amp Whitn ey Wasp and had a chromoly frame around which were bulkheads of duralumin to which were fastened
formers and then the outer aluminum skin
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Feedback on Loose Fabric
Weve gotten plenty of comshyments about the article concerning bulging fabric While it wasnt part of my column originally many of you have addressed your comments to me so Ill check in on the freshyquency
Before we get to that Id like to update you on the status of our Champ airworthiness directive compliance It went fine as you may recall reading in my July colshyumn but a funny thing happened after flying a bit in the rain-the paint we sprayed over the patches has started to come off Dang Usshying MEK I thought Id completely removed the lemon-scented furnishyture polish I use regularly to clean the leading edges but I guess I was wrong The paint on the leading edges is beginning to peel HG and I wonder if they put any silishycone in the polish Doesnt say so on the can but maybe its a secret ingredient The peeling paint makes the new name (see photo on page 26) for the Champ even more accurate
Lets get on with the loose fabric discussion
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First loose fabric is a hazard for a couple of reasons Loose fabric can chafe against fairing strips and fasshyteners weakening it If a fabric edge is caught in the slipstream it can easily be torn away The results can be disastrous If it gets tangled up with a control surface it can even cause a loss of control and at the very least the loose wildly flapping fabric can be a huge distraction Heres what some others had to say I cant say I agree with everyones comments but it certainly is intershyesting to see how fabrics are being applied in shops around the world Heres our first note
You must have received a lot of comments about the Stinsons bulging fabric Ill give you my 2~ worth
Ive re-covered at least four during the past 45 years and dozens of reshycovering jobs on many types of aircraft Ive used cotton Irish linen Ceconite Razorback and Stits Im sticking with Ceconite 101 which [ like best I like the smell of dope beshysides all the other good features
When I tighten Ceconite I set my iron at 400degF to 450degF ] do the initial
tightening with a heat gun Then] work it with the iron evenly until] can feel the right tautness Thats just the right drumming sound and feel After the first coat ofprimer nishytrate dope there may be a few slack areas I then go over them again but never holding the iron in one place very long
Every Stinson I re-covered had screws on the four stringers on top of the fuselage from the windshield back about 3 or 4 feet spaced 3 or 4 inches apart ] just looked at three Stinsons on our flight line and they all have the screws
Don Macor Duluth Minnesota
Dons method might work well for him but Id hesitate to suggest it to anyone else In particular the use of a heat gun is prohibited in the Poly-Fiber and other process manuals that deal with the installashytion of Dacron fabric Uneven heat application is the reason it is disshycouraged Id also point out that the Cooper Superflight manual among others highlights the fact that Dacron fabric will start to m~lt
when heated above 450degF Thats why Don says he does not linger too long when shrinking the fabric with an iron set above 400degF
I just received my July issue of Vinshytage Airplane I always look forward to its arriva l That cover photo of the Stearman is beautiful Hats off to Jim Koepnick who does such a great job ofphotographing these old planes
I was drawn to the article on page 4 Is that Covering too Slack I have an uncovered Stinson 108-3 sitting in my garage so perhaps I can shed some light on some of the details about covshyering the Stinson 108 series In the article someone said Id be tempted to rib-stitch the fabric to the upper stringers on the fuselage Id suggest avoiding that temptation The Stinson used 4 PK screws to attach the fabric to the ribs and to the stringers above the fuselage I know because I have a coffee can with hundreds of these screws that I removed from my plane Above the fuselage there are four hatshysection aluminum stringers On my Stinson the fabric was attached to each of these stringers with 10 PK screws at 3-inch intervals beginning aft of the leading edge and running back just aft of the rear spar I believe thats how it was done originally I would not suggest rib-stitching beshycause the sharp edges of the hat-section stringers would cut the lacing And of course there is the matter of legality Rib-stitching would be a modification from the original construction certainly not appropriate in this situation
The photo on page 5 shows apparshyent ballooning of the fabric over the cabin area of the fuselage but theres more to this than meets the eye At the Stinson factory a blanket of fibershyglass insulation was installed above the cabin Old photos show this insushylation installed above the stringers I believe the fabric was then attached through the insulation to the stringers with the PK screws That puffy look above the cabin may be caused (at least in part) by the insulation Ive
We had a couple of folks ask if we could show a comparison shot highlighting loose fabric with the Stinson as an example In 1999 EAAs crack photo staff took air-to-air photos of a couple of Stinsons The top photo shows the fabric ballooning above the cabin In the lower photo the airplane restored by noted Stinson 108 rebuilder Butch Walsh of Arrington Virginia clearly shows the 4 PK (Parker-Kalon) screws that secure the fabric to the cabin roof stringers before the finishing tapes are applied
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discussion Im sure there are others out there who know more about this than I do Id enjoy hearing from anyshyone interes ted in Stinsons I have a website that I call Hangar 9 Aeroworks It features my project and other information on the 108-series Stinsons The URL is wwwhangar9 aeroworkscom
John Baker Damascus Maryland
Dip and HG were the first to agree with the members who wrote and called in to take them to ta sk for not confirming the exact method of attachment used by Stinson The intent of the original write-up was not to compos e a Stinson maintenance manual but to highlight the hazards inherent in any fabric job that is not propshyerly installed Our comments were meant to elicit a response from the membership in cluding expe rts like Butch Walsh Boy did they ever respond
Each of us is required to confirm the exact methods us ed by the manufacturer or subsequently apshyproved modifications and to scrupulously duplicate those methshyods The type certificate drawings and other information are often
seen Stinsons with the original type insulation that had the puffy look while sitting quietly on the ground
Dip Davis is correct that the Stinshyson did not originally cover the tanks on the 108s though Ive seen many restorations with the tanks covered There can be a bit of a problem with fabric tapes not adhering well to the perimeter of the tanks In fact I had a few tapes come loose once on a trip to EAA Chapter 643 s fl y-in at Pittstown New Jersey in 1993 A litshytle contact cem ent and some help from Chapter 643 got me back home okay Shortly after that I decided it was time for a complete re-cover job
Here s one more item about balshylooning fabric on the Stinson 108s that I learned from Stinson guru Butch Walsh The cabin fresh air intakes are on the leading edge of th e wing (as shown on page 17 of th e March issue of Vintage Airplane) Th ese vents feed into a chamber inside the inboard rib bay This chamber is not sealed very well so forced air spills out into the wing as well as into the cabin Taking care to seal this chamshyber can eliminate some problems with fabric on the inboard portion of th e wing and will provide more fresh air in the cabin
I hope this will contribute to the
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After we compiled with AD 2000shy25-02 the Champ looked a bit more shop-worn so we gave it a new name
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Dont blindly follow the lead of someone who may have restored the airplane in the past-they ma y have missed something that is required How many times have you seen a poorly placed inspection hole only to hear II But that was the way it was inshystalled on the airplane when I got it I Only the factory drawings and any supplemental type certifishy
cates (STC) or other approved modifications can change the aircrafts legal configushyration and the method of fabric installation is part of that configushyration
As both HG and I have pOinted out in the past the covering supshypliers have specific instructions on how their covering methods are to be installed Since covering with the Poly-Fiber Cooper Superflight Ai r-Tech or other processes were not included in the type certificate for the airplanes that we were dealshying with here an STC for their installation was obtained by the resp ective companies If their method is not followed you run the risk of having the covering job re jected by an IA (AampP with inshyspection authorization) mechanic andor the FAA for not conformshying to the STC If an STCd part is installed on an aircraft and the methods spelled out in the STC are not followed the aircraft is unshyairworthy Un-airworthy aircraft dont have very good resale values and besides you can t fly them And thats the point of all of this right Let s get out there do it right and fly safely
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place for it So the bottom line was simple-I had to sell it And I never even took a picture of it nor did any of the neighbors
A schoolmate of mine by the name of Billy Gilbert also a stushydent pilot showed some interest and he lived in the town of Bethany That town had a grass runway airport and it was one of the oldest airports in New Engshyland where supposedly American Airlines got started Famous aviashytors had flown out of there names such as Bert Acosta Clarence Chamberlin Guss Graff Jack Tweed Franklin T Hank Kurt Bob Noorduyn (Norseman) and Batch Pond (Pond Creams) (The Bethany airport managed to stay in existence until the early 1980s)
On May 291946 Billy Gilbert came to the house with a farm rack truck and $30 loaded up the airshyplane and drove away That was the last time I saw it as r stood there and cried However I had hidden the propeller in our basement and still
have it as a memento in addition to a section of wing fabric with the black number NC901E on it
So what became of that old airshyplane Billy wen t into the Navy and his parents eventually sold the ship to a local junk and scrap dealer who was mainly interested in the OX engine That was the end of it I searched many years later but it was gone
Years later I came across many Command-Aire photographs and the ones shown with this article are all I have of that fond memory
Sometime after that I owned a 1941 Waco UPF-7 which I made my first dollar with by towing signs allover the place out of the Bethany airport and then a 1936 Ryan ST and now I have a 1953 Cessna 170B which I fly often (my first closed-in type)
Sometimes for old times sake r will fly the 170 with helmet and goggles and white scarf and the winshydows open See one never loses the thrill of real flight
In closing I can say that if one wants to fly bad enough one will find a way It is a healthy disease that can be most appreciated as you feel the wind in your face up in the air over our beautiful countryside
What else do I do now for fun My new book The Untold Story of The Spirit Of St Louis will be out next year 2002 the 75th annivershysary of Lindberghs epic flight This book has been a labor of love for decades and it will be published by Historic Aviation Books
When that is done I plan to write the history of Command-Aire and also some Connecticut aviation hisshytory In particular Im going to document the stories of the Cairns airplane the Kimball Beetle sevenshycylinder aircraft radial engine the Scorpion aircraft engine the Bristol gliders that were manufactured on Edgewood Avenue near the Acme Auto Top Company (see story) and the Bourdon- and Viking-built Kitty Hawk airplanes
After that I may retire
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 11
TYPE CLUB
Some Thoughts on Restoration and Airworthiness Originally appeared in Waco World News Vol I No 36 MaylJune 2001
by Robert G Lock
Restoring an airplane is a lot like flying-hours and hours of someshytimes boring work separated by a few moments of stark terror As one approaches the end of a restoration project there comes a time for certishyfication by the FAA unless the airplane has a permanent airworthishyness certificate Receiving that all-important permanent standard airworthiness certificate is the final objective This article will give some background on past certification procedures especially for airplanes that go back to the beginning of government rules and regulations
Governments entry into aviashytion essentially began with the creation of the Aeronautics Branch of the Department of Commerce Near the top of the agenda of the new bureaucracy was the certificatshying of airplanes pilots and eventually mechanics Approved type certificates (ATC) began in March 1927 and continue to this day Registration numbers were reshyquired and were painted on the wings and tail The Roman capital letter N denoting registration in the United States followed by the letter C for commercial X for
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experimental R for restricted and L for limited were adopted Design requirements needed for an ATC were contained in Aeronautics Bulletin 7 later 7A ATCs were numshybered sequentia lly beginning with 1 and ending with 817 (a new ATC numbering system was introduced after number 817) The certificating of pilots and later mechanics closely followed as the government tried to regulate the beginning of the aviation industry
Obtaining an ATC to manufacshyture and sell an airplane was costly even in the early days Group 2 apshyprovals were awarded to a person or company when only a limited numshyber of aircraft were to be built either as a new design or as a modification of an existing airplane being manushyfactured under an ATe The Group 2 approvals were cheaper and easier to obtain but design and manufacshyture were equiva lent to approved type cert ificates
An important item to remember is that if an airplane was designed to Aeronautics Bulletin 7 or 7A it still must meet those requirements toshyday So for some restorers a copy of this manual is helpful
Another bit of information critishycal to certification is that there were no permanent airworthiness certifishycates in the old days A representative of the government re -certificated the airplane annushyally and a new airworthiness certificate was issued The papershywork f i le in Washington DC became immense There was a file folder for each registered aircraft and all hard copy paperwork was meticulously maintained Even telegrams were retained
Each file folder was a complete diary of the airplane from owners to inspections and repairs Some of this data is available today on mishycrofiche For most all aircraft the original hard copy files have been placed on microfiche and then the hard copy fi les were destroyed I have seen original files that are still stored in Suitland Maryland Most of those files are not on microfiche
ATC data is also known as type design data Type design data can be found in the Aircraft Listing Enshygine Listing and Prope ll er Listing (for fewer than SO airp lanes regisshytered) and in the Aircraft Engine and Propeller Specification Sheets
for the middle-aged aircraft For airplanes of this vintage this
is the only source of data for the reshystorer If youre really lucky there may be copies of original factory drawings available as a valuable supplement However most of the factory drawings for many antique aircraft have been destroyed Fortushynately for Waco restorers factory drawings are available Drawings are invaluable when restoring old airplanes I searched for the Comshymand-Aire drawings but determined that they had all been destroyed However in my search I did locate some valuable type deshysign data from a most unusual source which might be fuel for anshyother story
In the mid 1930s the aviation inshydustry continued to grow By an act of Congress the government creshyated the Civil Aeronautics Administration (CAA) The CAA took regulations created by the Aeronautics Branch of the Departshyment of Commerce and expanded its bureaucratic role in aviation It created Civil Aviation Regulations (CAR) and Civil Aviation Manuals (CAM) Requirements of approved type were now contained in the CARs CAR 3 was certification for small aircraft Also to appear was the mechanics bible CAM 18 which spelled out requirements for major repairs to aircraft This publishycation evolved into the present FAA Advisory Circulars AC4313-1B andshy2B which give data on major repairs and alterations
The annual re-certificating of airshycraft was still required and a new airworthiness certificate was given to the owner after the airplane was approved for return to service As the workload increased a new method of certificating was created DeSignated aircraft maintenance inshyspectors (DAM I) were selected to take over the re-certificating duties These were well-experienced airshy
craft and engine (AampE) mechanics that were hand selected by local CAA maintenance inspectors The airworthiness certificate was still isshysued every year but in the mid-1950s about the time that the Federal Aviation Agency (FAA) came to power things began to change for airworthiness certificates They became permanent The aircraft could be re-certificated every year by a DAMI and later by an FAA airshyframe and powerplant (AampP) mechanic who holds an inspection authorization (IA) So today the AampP with IA can return to service annual inspections many major reshypairs and some major alterations
Congress created the Federal Avishyation Agency in 1958 Soon after the word II Agency was dropped in favor of II Administration And government control and bureaushycracy continued to grow ever larger
While we are on the subject of the FAA perhaps an easy method to distinguish differences between mashyjor repairs and major alterations is to apply the following
If the repair returns the aircraft to its original type certificate afshyfects airworthiness and cannot be done using elementary techniques then it is a major repair
If the repair (or modification) alshyters conformity to the original type design data then it is a major alteration
If an AampP mechanic cannot apshyprove a major repair or major alteration then a field approval by an FAA maintenance inspector must be obtained Sometimes this is more complicated than can be imagined Maybe a future story on FAA field approvals would prove inshyteresting
If an aircraft has never had a pershymanent airworthiness certificate then one must be obtained Here again the FAA issues this certifishycate To obtain that treasured piece of paper you must fill out an applishy
cation and prove that the airplane conforms to its type certificate Sometimes this is very difficult Esshypecially if the original type design data is incomplete or missing I have seen file cabinets in FAA headshyquarters with drawers containing type design data Just like Joe Juptshyners US Civil Aircraft books each drawer had a folder with the ATC number on top Some of the folders contained data while some were empty When the folder was empty the FAA had no type design data other than data that was published in Aircraft Engine and Propeller Listing which is not very much
For the coveted permanent airshyworthiness certificate an FAA representative will conduct a conshyformity inspection The basis for the inspection could be one or more of the following FAA Airshycraft Engine and Propeller Listing or Specification Sheets microfiche of original aircraft records containshying airworthiness and registration data factory drawings (if available) and aircraft and engine operating limitations
In addition current weight and balance calculations with critical forward and aft loading (if reshyquired) a loading schedule (if required) and appropriate placardshying must be included A list of required optional and special equipment must accompany the weight and balance data And lastly FAA Form 337 (Major Repair amp Mashyjor Alteration) must be completed by the supervising AampPIA Aircraft and engine logbooks must have apshypropriate entries made and registration data must be shown After many months (or should I say years) of restoration work perhaps that small piece of paper that says PERMANENT AIRWORTHINESS CERTIFICATE-STANDARD is now in your hand Categories of the airshyworthiness certificate are NORMAL UTILITY and ACROBATIC
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 13
Mike Sleineke
Yeah well just strip it and paint it
Shouldnt take more than a month Thats what Ronnie Cox and Greg Davis of Ft Lauderdale Florida said about their 1962 250 Comanche
Sound familiar That kind of comshyment is right up there with Well just clean up a few of the instrushyments or Gee wouldnt it look better with a new windshield
Not once in the history of vinshytage con tern porary airplanes has anyone
1 Removed just one part painted it and put it right back on without removing a bunch more first
2 Started to do just one restoration operation eg re-bush the landing gear and done only that one thing
3 Taken an engine off overhauled it and put it back on without redoshying everything in sight
4 Reupholstered just the front seats and stopped there
You get the picture Airplanes are a lot like tar babies and once you get
your fingers into them they generally suck you in right up to your navel and don t let you go until theres nothing left to do
Ronnie and Greg were both lookshying for a serious cross-country airplane they could use to run from Florida up to Ronnies summer house in the Michigan islands Ronnie had owned three Comanches in the past so that was his bird of choice For Greg it would be his first airplane ownership
Ronnie had a long history of airshyplane ownership and involvement because his dad was heavily involved in aircraft and used to fly him all over the country Plus he owned a long string of airplanes including a PT-19 and a bunch of Pipers including Tri-Pacers Pacers and such
Ronnie started flying while he was still based in Ohio in the 1960s
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The 2S0-hp six-cylinder Lycoming gives the Comanche Bonanza-rivaling speed (a cruise of 161 to 181 mph) and a useful load carrying capacity of up to 1200 pounds
Updated radios and a refurbished interior make the Comanche a comfortable cross-country speedster
and his wife and son learned to fly from the same CFI who taught both his father and him to fly
Cox an elecshytrical engineer by training had started his own enshygineering business years ago and even worked a Seneca II into it for corposhyrate transportation so by the time the 1962 Comanche entered thei r lives he had 5500 hours of flying time He recently sought a change in career and sold his business to fly for a comshymuter airline
Ronnie also had a business buildshying engines for drag racers that Greg said really helped because Ronshynie just has a feel for what has to be done to a machine mechanically to make it right
Cox enjoyed rebuilding airplanes almost from the beginning and his total restoration of a Cessna 140 won a Lindy Award as recognition that he was a hands-on kind of guy who farmed out as little of his airplane reshybuilding projects as possible However it was in looking for a little help while his son and he were reshybuilding his sons Cessna 120 (which also won a Lindy) that he met Greg Davis
We needed to have some alushyminum bent to make up a new spar doubler for the 120 Ronnie said and someone suggested we contact
this guy on the other side of the field Ronnie
laughed when he said this inshydicating something was coming We walked in with the original
doubler in our hand which was a litshytle crude and showed it to Greg This
was the first time Id laid eyes on him Ronnie said
He looked at the doubler threw it down and said No I cant make something like this I thought he was joking or something Then he said If I make it itll be better than that Greg can be a little cantankerous and Ronnie Cox laughed again
Greg Davis has run Davis Aircraft Services in Ft Lauderdale since 1985 and he specializes in doing structural repairs on corporate airplanes As such he has developed both the facilshyity and ability to do practically anything with sheet metal So beshytween Ronnies mechanical ability and Gregs feeling for sheet metal there was practically nothing they couldnt do to a little airplane
I had been part of an RV-4 buildshying project but got out of it because I was just too busy flying a friends Pitts S-2B Greg explained He said I could fly it as much as I wanted so I started competing and between that and work I didnt really have the time to own my own airplane
There was something about the chemistry between the two men that prompted them to want a cross-counshy
try airplane that could carry two guys 120 gallons of gas and our bagshygage Enter the Comanche
They ran into the airplane in Aushygust 1992 and it was a really sad example of the breed but the price was right and the sheet metal looked good Also it had no corrosion
Then they started comparing the logbooks to the actual airplane and found that someone had a fanciful imagination when it came to the defishynition of airworthiness directive (AD) compliance The Comanche has a bunch of fairly serious and expenshysive ADs Ronnie pointed out Over the years someone had been signing off the ADs but not doing them As they put it the airplane had about 25 years of pencil maintenance
We found a perfect example of how well this airplane was mainshytained when we replaced the tires One of the tubes was dated 1962 and had been on the airplane since it was built Greg said
The airplane had also been landed gear-up at some point in its career Again the previous keepers of the logs didnt see fit to mention this litshytle incident There were a bunch of scab patches on the belly we had to get rid of and we put new gear doors on it
Their approach to the sheet metal was simple If a panel needed a repair they would just replace the panel We re-skinned part of the turtledeck
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 17
WHAT OUR MEMBERS ARE RESTORING by HG Frautschy and Norm Petersen
AERONCA 7DC Sitting on the grass at Lee Bottom Airport near Louisville Kentucky Mark
and Wendie Paszkiewiczs (VAA 580997) 1946 Aeronca 7DC is ready for a flight in the warm hazy skies along the Ohio River First delivered as a 7 AC to a Phoenix Arizona flight school in 1946 with the installation of a Conshytinental 85-hp engine it became an Aeronca 7De Partially restored when they bought the project Mark and Wendie couldnt resist rebuilding some parts Now they fly the Champ around to local fly-ins and just have fun in it after work
CHAMPION 7GCB Posed in the afternoon sunshine of Sky
Harbor Airport in Duluth Minnesota is a beautiful 1962 Champion 7GCB N9912Y serial number 7GCB-133 mounted on an immaculate set of PKshy1800 floats Recently re-covered and painted by veteran mechanic Don Macor (VAA 28788) of Duluth Minnesota this particular aircraft is quite rare in that it has only 706 hours total time on airframe and engine has a factory original outside baggage compartment door and is one of only six 7GCBs remaining on the US Register In addition during its entire 39shyyear lifespan only one authorized inspectors name is in the aircraft logshybooks-Don Macor Don reports the airframe was in very good shape with only minor surface rust on a few places The covering is Ceconite 101 with bushytyrate dope in Daytona white Miami blue and black trim Note the seaplane auxiliary fins on the stabilizers necessary with the added mass of the floats ahead of the CG
Unusual to this model of 150 hp Champion is the outside baggage door on the right side of the fuselage seen here in the open position and ready for access to the baggage compartment
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because we removed the beacon It takes alshymost as long to patch the hole correctly as it does to replace the enshytire panel and then you dont have that ugly patch up there
The same thing held true for the cowlshying which they say is a weak point in a Coshymanche Building a new one consumed an enormous amount of time
Comanche control surfaces are reshyally thin mostly 016 and 020 so it doesnt take much to bend them up This airplane had apparently seen some hail that was heavy enough to dent the control surfaces but not the rest of the airplane so Greg said we re-skinned most of the control surfaces
Early in the project when the pair realized the airplane was going to take more than simply stripping and painting they decided on a specific goal We wanted to make it a truly modern airplane almost a new one so we could depend on it So we did everything but de-mate the wing We removed every single wire and sysshytem in the entire airplane and rebuilt every part of it according to Ronnie
When it came to the avionics Greg said it was really grungy It had Mark 12 radios in it and by the time we were done removing layers and layers of old wiring we took about SO pounds of wires out
Part of making it a modern airshyplane meant building reliability into everything ahead of the firewall We put a 260-hp exhaust system on it along with a lightweight starter new mags and most important we put a new fuel pump on it and had it flowshychecked Weve had some really tragic accidents in the Comanche community because the fuel pump was working but it wasnt putting out enough to feed the engine at takeoff power
According to the pair the landing
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gear is another area that needs careful examination because it wears out quickly We pulled every bushing and part of the gear and found that much of it was really sloppy This makes it hard to rig and contributes to gear collapses We dont know the history to our airplanes accident but that could have played a part
Naturally everything in the inteshyrior was replaced including a new panel with modern everything and they installed shoulder harnesses at the same time To keep their passenshygers happy they installed a small TV set with a VCR in the back seat They also installed a 14-inch thick big windshield and routed the edges down so it would fit flush into the original mounting channels
It took five years to get the airshyplane ready to fly and then it took another three months to get the pashyperwork completed We filed eight 337s and one field approval Because I do so many similar things with the corporate aircraft I just approached this one the same way Greg Davis said I filed them all through a DER (deSignated engineering representashytive) but rather than doing them locally I invited the FAA to come up and take a look at the airplane
They are obviously proud of the FAAs reaction to the way they apshyproached their project II After they came up the first time they brought another group of guys up to take a look at it They told us they wanted everyone in their office to see this beshy
cause this is the way they like to see an airshyplane and the supshyporting paperwork done Seems like theres a lesson for the rest of us in there somewhere
Ronnie Cox said The Comanche is a great airplane but like all airplanes if it needs extensive work it can be really expensive if you dont do it yourshyself Theres an old
saying about Piper products Made by farmers for farmers and its true The airplane is really easy to work on but the best thing you can do is make sure you get a good airplane in the first place
Cox has a number of pOints that he said every wannabe Comanche owner should satisfy before he or she buys a particular airplane Besides the normal over-all condition stuff that affects every airplane there are some specifics which include
bull AD list and compliance-Undershystand what airworthiness directives affect the airplane and make sure they were actually done
bull Gear condition-Look for cracked knuckles and measure as many internal dimensions as posshysible
bull Gear-up damage-Gear-up landshyings often crush the structure that the gear motor is attached to Make sure it was repaired properly
bull Flap track condition-The flap tracks wear and need to be carefully checked
bull Flap motor-The flap actuation system and especially the motor have to be checked for condition
The CoxDavis Comanche has more than 200 hours on it now and its owners (or should they be called creators) say it does exactly what they wanted it to do It lets them go long distances in comfort and they have the peace of mind that comes from knowing everything within that airplane was done right
CHAMPION 7ED7FC Ownerpilot Mike Foote (VAA 365457) wrote to us concerning his terrific restoration IIManufactured by Champion Aircraft in 1959 N8539E began life as a Tri-Champ In 1983 it was convelted to a taidragshy
gerl but only 12 short flight hours later life changed dramatically for N8539E when it was severely damaged in a windstorm The ownerls initial impression was that it would never fly again The remains went through several owners each intent upon restorationl but finding the task a daunting onel each chose instead to pass it along to someone else with more ambition My tum came in July of1995 After 15 months ofintense restoration efforts N8539E became a plane again on October 261 1996 1 flew the plane from my home base in Olathel Kansas to Oshkosh in 1997 and had it judged in the Contemporary category My efforts were rewardedl as the Champion was selected as the Outstanding Champion aircraft for that year It is still going strong and is just as satisfying to fly today as it was for the first time II
TAYLORCRAFf DC-65
Chet Peek (VAA 13458) author of terrific books such as The First Cub and Resurrection ofa Jenny has gotshyten back into flying after losing his airplanes and Norman Oklahoma hangar during a tornado in 1998 Chefs bought Bruce Bixlers Taylorshycraft DC-65 This DC-65 is one of the rare early Taylorcraft Tandems which had aluminum spars and ribs A few in the same series became the first Taylorcraft L-2 liaison airplanes Chefs airplane is finished in the Civilian Training Programs colors of blue and yellow
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September Mystery Plane
by HG Frautschy
This months Mystery Plane is a rare metal plane from the collection of Pete Bowers
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Plenty of you knew the June Mysshytery Plane surely one of those Don t you wish there was just one of th ese left kind of airplanes Heres our first letter
The Mystery Plane in the June 2001 edition of Vintage Airplane is an Ireshyland N-2 Neptune
Ireland N-2 Nep
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G Sumner Ireland had been an engineer for Curtiss up to 1926 He later formed Ireland Aircraft Inc at Curshytiss Field Garden City and marketed th e Ireland Comet Meteor Privateer and Neptune Th e N-2B Neptune (circa 1927) was a four-pla ce amphibian powshyered by a 300-hp Wright J-6 while the N-2C Nepshytun e was a fiv e-place amphibian with a 450-hp PampWWasp
Thomas H Lymburn Princeton Minnesota
And more on the various models of the Neptune
The June Mystery Plane is the Amshyphibians Incorporated Model N-2B or N-2C with either PampW Wa sp engine or the Wright Whirlwind 300 in the five- or six-place amphibian Modificashytions from the Ireland A ircraft Inc Model ND5-ND6 include strut covers and increased bow angle on the tip floats and an extended main hull float behind the step The three views are from the Aircraft Yearbook 3- View
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Drawings 1903-1946 Russ Brown Lyndhurst Ohio
With Juptn ers U S Civil A ircraft this one didn t take long to idenshytify Vol 2 p ages 151-153 for ATC 153 des cribes th e Ireland Neptun e N-2B With enough clarity in th e photo to note the license as NC-88K its listed as L ____v
production number 43
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and had a 300-hp Wright J-6 engine (affirmed by the long rocker-box eavshyers) (Abo ut this time some models were being upgraded with a 450 PampW Wasp for the model N-2C-ATC 248)
Ive always been very appreciative of Joe Juptners good coverage of all the ATCd US aircraft Over the years Ive been building scale models of more obshyscure aircraft as a hobby Ive drawn many of my plans from photos and dishymensions in US Civil Aircraft In fact I have a plan I drew for the Nepshytune N-2C though Ive not built it yet Thats why I recognized the June Mysshytery plane was a Neptune I lived in Ecuador for about 45 years and made most of the models of jungle hardshywoods in 1 32 scale
Bub Borman Dallas Texas
Junes Mystery Plane was easy It is Irelands Neptune NC-89K shown on page 143 of us Civil Aircraft Vol 3
by Juptner Both pictures were probably taken the same day Note the man at left in both pictures same suit hat and tie Note the taped wire or tube on left wing forward strut
Excuse this old typewriter Im 81 and darned ifIll get a new one now
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Ju st a note to say I think the Jun e Mystery Plane is one of the Ireland Airshycraft Inc Neptune series
G Sumner Irelands ideas on flying boats pre-date this N-2C version by several years so the name was not new to aviation
Th e N-2C for the June issue was one of about nine built in late 1929 and the early 1930s
It was powered by a 450-hp Pratt amp Whitn ey Wasp and had a chromoly frame around which were bulkheads of duralumin to which were fastened
formers and then the outer aluminum skin
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Weve gotten plenty of comshyments about the article concerning bulging fabric While it wasnt part of my column originally many of you have addressed your comments to me so Ill check in on the freshyquency
Before we get to that Id like to update you on the status of our Champ airworthiness directive compliance It went fine as you may recall reading in my July colshyumn but a funny thing happened after flying a bit in the rain-the paint we sprayed over the patches has started to come off Dang Usshying MEK I thought Id completely removed the lemon-scented furnishyture polish I use regularly to clean the leading edges but I guess I was wrong The paint on the leading edges is beginning to peel HG and I wonder if they put any silishycone in the polish Doesnt say so on the can but maybe its a secret ingredient The peeling paint makes the new name (see photo on page 26) for the Champ even more accurate
Lets get on with the loose fabric discussion
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First loose fabric is a hazard for a couple of reasons Loose fabric can chafe against fairing strips and fasshyteners weakening it If a fabric edge is caught in the slipstream it can easily be torn away The results can be disastrous If it gets tangled up with a control surface it can even cause a loss of control and at the very least the loose wildly flapping fabric can be a huge distraction Heres what some others had to say I cant say I agree with everyones comments but it certainly is intershyesting to see how fabrics are being applied in shops around the world Heres our first note
You must have received a lot of comments about the Stinsons bulging fabric Ill give you my 2~ worth
Ive re-covered at least four during the past 45 years and dozens of reshycovering jobs on many types of aircraft Ive used cotton Irish linen Ceconite Razorback and Stits Im sticking with Ceconite 101 which [ like best I like the smell of dope beshysides all the other good features
When I tighten Ceconite I set my iron at 400degF to 450degF ] do the initial
tightening with a heat gun Then] work it with the iron evenly until] can feel the right tautness Thats just the right drumming sound and feel After the first coat ofprimer nishytrate dope there may be a few slack areas I then go over them again but never holding the iron in one place very long
Every Stinson I re-covered had screws on the four stringers on top of the fuselage from the windshield back about 3 or 4 feet spaced 3 or 4 inches apart ] just looked at three Stinsons on our flight line and they all have the screws
Don Macor Duluth Minnesota
Dons method might work well for him but Id hesitate to suggest it to anyone else In particular the use of a heat gun is prohibited in the Poly-Fiber and other process manuals that deal with the installashytion of Dacron fabric Uneven heat application is the reason it is disshycouraged Id also point out that the Cooper Superflight manual among others highlights the fact that Dacron fabric will start to m~lt
when heated above 450degF Thats why Don says he does not linger too long when shrinking the fabric with an iron set above 400degF
I just received my July issue of Vinshytage Airplane I always look forward to its arriva l That cover photo of the Stearman is beautiful Hats off to Jim Koepnick who does such a great job ofphotographing these old planes
I was drawn to the article on page 4 Is that Covering too Slack I have an uncovered Stinson 108-3 sitting in my garage so perhaps I can shed some light on some of the details about covshyering the Stinson 108 series In the article someone said Id be tempted to rib-stitch the fabric to the upper stringers on the fuselage Id suggest avoiding that temptation The Stinson used 4 PK screws to attach the fabric to the ribs and to the stringers above the fuselage I know because I have a coffee can with hundreds of these screws that I removed from my plane Above the fuselage there are four hatshysection aluminum stringers On my Stinson the fabric was attached to each of these stringers with 10 PK screws at 3-inch intervals beginning aft of the leading edge and running back just aft of the rear spar I believe thats how it was done originally I would not suggest rib-stitching beshycause the sharp edges of the hat-section stringers would cut the lacing And of course there is the matter of legality Rib-stitching would be a modification from the original construction certainly not appropriate in this situation
The photo on page 5 shows apparshyent ballooning of the fabric over the cabin area of the fuselage but theres more to this than meets the eye At the Stinson factory a blanket of fibershyglass insulation was installed above the cabin Old photos show this insushylation installed above the stringers I believe the fabric was then attached through the insulation to the stringers with the PK screws That puffy look above the cabin may be caused (at least in part) by the insulation Ive
We had a couple of folks ask if we could show a comparison shot highlighting loose fabric with the Stinson as an example In 1999 EAAs crack photo staff took air-to-air photos of a couple of Stinsons The top photo shows the fabric ballooning above the cabin In the lower photo the airplane restored by noted Stinson 108 rebuilder Butch Walsh of Arrington Virginia clearly shows the 4 PK (Parker-Kalon) screws that secure the fabric to the cabin roof stringers before the finishing tapes are applied
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discussion Im sure there are others out there who know more about this than I do Id enjoy hearing from anyshyone interes ted in Stinsons I have a website that I call Hangar 9 Aeroworks It features my project and other information on the 108-series Stinsons The URL is wwwhangar9 aeroworkscom
John Baker Damascus Maryland
Dip and HG were the first to agree with the members who wrote and called in to take them to ta sk for not confirming the exact method of attachment used by Stinson The intent of the original write-up was not to compos e a Stinson maintenance manual but to highlight the hazards inherent in any fabric job that is not propshyerly installed Our comments were meant to elicit a response from the membership in cluding expe rts like Butch Walsh Boy did they ever respond
Each of us is required to confirm the exact methods us ed by the manufacturer or subsequently apshyproved modifications and to scrupulously duplicate those methshyods The type certificate drawings and other information are often
seen Stinsons with the original type insulation that had the puffy look while sitting quietly on the ground
Dip Davis is correct that the Stinshyson did not originally cover the tanks on the 108s though Ive seen many restorations with the tanks covered There can be a bit of a problem with fabric tapes not adhering well to the perimeter of the tanks In fact I had a few tapes come loose once on a trip to EAA Chapter 643 s fl y-in at Pittstown New Jersey in 1993 A litshytle contact cem ent and some help from Chapter 643 got me back home okay Shortly after that I decided it was time for a complete re-cover job
Here s one more item about balshylooning fabric on the Stinson 108s that I learned from Stinson guru Butch Walsh The cabin fresh air intakes are on the leading edge of th e wing (as shown on page 17 of th e March issue of Vintage Airplane) Th ese vents feed into a chamber inside the inboard rib bay This chamber is not sealed very well so forced air spills out into the wing as well as into the cabin Taking care to seal this chamshyber can eliminate some problems with fabric on the inboard portion of th e wing and will provide more fresh air in the cabin
I hope this will contribute to the
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After we compiled with AD 2000shy25-02 the Champ looked a bit more shop-worn so we gave it a new name
available from the type club for your particular model
Dont blindly follow the lead of someone who may have restored the airplane in the past-they ma y have missed something that is required How many times have you seen a poorly placed inspection hole only to hear II But that was the way it was inshystalled on the airplane when I got it I Only the factory drawings and any supplemental type certifishy
cates (STC) or other approved modifications can change the aircrafts legal configushyration and the method of fabric installation is part of that configushyration
As both HG and I have pOinted out in the past the covering supshypliers have specific instructions on how their covering methods are to be installed Since covering with the Poly-Fiber Cooper Superflight Ai r-Tech or other processes were not included in the type certificate for the airplanes that we were dealshying with here an STC for their installation was obtained by the resp ective companies If their method is not followed you run the risk of having the covering job re jected by an IA (AampP with inshyspection authorization) mechanic andor the FAA for not conformshying to the STC If an STCd part is installed on an aircraft and the methods spelled out in the STC are not followed the aircraft is unshyairworthy Un-airworthy aircraft dont have very good resale values and besides you can t fly them And thats the point of all of this right Let s get out there do it right and fly safely
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Some Thoughts on Restoration and Airworthiness Originally appeared in Waco World News Vol I No 36 MaylJune 2001
by Robert G Lock
Restoring an airplane is a lot like flying-hours and hours of someshytimes boring work separated by a few moments of stark terror As one approaches the end of a restoration project there comes a time for certishyfication by the FAA unless the airplane has a permanent airworthishyness certificate Receiving that all-important permanent standard airworthiness certificate is the final objective This article will give some background on past certification procedures especially for airplanes that go back to the beginning of government rules and regulations
Governments entry into aviashytion essentially began with the creation of the Aeronautics Branch of the Department of Commerce Near the top of the agenda of the new bureaucracy was the certificatshying of airplanes pilots and eventually mechanics Approved type certificates (ATC) began in March 1927 and continue to this day Registration numbers were reshyquired and were painted on the wings and tail The Roman capital letter N denoting registration in the United States followed by the letter C for commercial X for
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experimental R for restricted and L for limited were adopted Design requirements needed for an ATC were contained in Aeronautics Bulletin 7 later 7A ATCs were numshybered sequentia lly beginning with 1 and ending with 817 (a new ATC numbering system was introduced after number 817) The certificating of pilots and later mechanics closely followed as the government tried to regulate the beginning of the aviation industry
Obtaining an ATC to manufacshyture and sell an airplane was costly even in the early days Group 2 apshyprovals were awarded to a person or company when only a limited numshyber of aircraft were to be built either as a new design or as a modification of an existing airplane being manushyfactured under an ATe The Group 2 approvals were cheaper and easier to obtain but design and manufacshyture were equiva lent to approved type cert ificates
An important item to remember is that if an airplane was designed to Aeronautics Bulletin 7 or 7A it still must meet those requirements toshyday So for some restorers a copy of this manual is helpful
Another bit of information critishycal to certification is that there were no permanent airworthiness certifishycates in the old days A representative of the government re -certificated the airplane annushyally and a new airworthiness certificate was issued The papershywork f i le in Washington DC became immense There was a file folder for each registered aircraft and all hard copy paperwork was meticulously maintained Even telegrams were retained
Each file folder was a complete diary of the airplane from owners to inspections and repairs Some of this data is available today on mishycrofiche For most all aircraft the original hard copy files have been placed on microfiche and then the hard copy fi les were destroyed I have seen original files that are still stored in Suitland Maryland Most of those files are not on microfiche
ATC data is also known as type design data Type design data can be found in the Aircraft Listing Enshygine Listing and Prope ll er Listing (for fewer than SO airp lanes regisshytered) and in the Aircraft Engine and Propeller Specification Sheets
for the middle-aged aircraft For airplanes of this vintage this
is the only source of data for the reshystorer If youre really lucky there may be copies of original factory drawings available as a valuable supplement However most of the factory drawings for many antique aircraft have been destroyed Fortushynately for Waco restorers factory drawings are available Drawings are invaluable when restoring old airplanes I searched for the Comshymand-Aire drawings but determined that they had all been destroyed However in my search I did locate some valuable type deshysign data from a most unusual source which might be fuel for anshyother story
In the mid 1930s the aviation inshydustry continued to grow By an act of Congress the government creshyated the Civil Aeronautics Administration (CAA) The CAA took regulations created by the Aeronautics Branch of the Departshyment of Commerce and expanded its bureaucratic role in aviation It created Civil Aviation Regulations (CAR) and Civil Aviation Manuals (CAM) Requirements of approved type were now contained in the CARs CAR 3 was certification for small aircraft Also to appear was the mechanics bible CAM 18 which spelled out requirements for major repairs to aircraft This publishycation evolved into the present FAA Advisory Circulars AC4313-1B andshy2B which give data on major repairs and alterations
The annual re-certificating of airshycraft was still required and a new airworthiness certificate was given to the owner after the airplane was approved for return to service As the workload increased a new method of certificating was created DeSignated aircraft maintenance inshyspectors (DAM I) were selected to take over the re-certificating duties These were well-experienced airshy
craft and engine (AampE) mechanics that were hand selected by local CAA maintenance inspectors The airworthiness certificate was still isshysued every year but in the mid-1950s about the time that the Federal Aviation Agency (FAA) came to power things began to change for airworthiness certificates They became permanent The aircraft could be re-certificated every year by a DAMI and later by an FAA airshyframe and powerplant (AampP) mechanic who holds an inspection authorization (IA) So today the AampP with IA can return to service annual inspections many major reshypairs and some major alterations
Congress created the Federal Avishyation Agency in 1958 Soon after the word II Agency was dropped in favor of II Administration And government control and bureaushycracy continued to grow ever larger
While we are on the subject of the FAA perhaps an easy method to distinguish differences between mashyjor repairs and major alterations is to apply the following
If the repair returns the aircraft to its original type certificate afshyfects airworthiness and cannot be done using elementary techniques then it is a major repair
If the repair (or modification) alshyters conformity to the original type design data then it is a major alteration
If an AampP mechanic cannot apshyprove a major repair or major alteration then a field approval by an FAA maintenance inspector must be obtained Sometimes this is more complicated than can be imagined Maybe a future story on FAA field approvals would prove inshyteresting
If an aircraft has never had a pershymanent airworthiness certificate then one must be obtained Here again the FAA issues this certifishycate To obtain that treasured piece of paper you must fill out an applishy
cation and prove that the airplane conforms to its type certificate Sometimes this is very difficult Esshypecially if the original type design data is incomplete or missing I have seen file cabinets in FAA headshyquarters with drawers containing type design data Just like Joe Juptshyners US Civil Aircraft books each drawer had a folder with the ATC number on top Some of the folders contained data while some were empty When the folder was empty the FAA had no type design data other than data that was published in Aircraft Engine and Propeller Listing which is not very much
For the coveted permanent airshyworthiness certificate an FAA representative will conduct a conshyformity inspection The basis for the inspection could be one or more of the following FAA Airshycraft Engine and Propeller Listing or Specification Sheets microfiche of original aircraft records containshying airworthiness and registration data factory drawings (if available) and aircraft and engine operating limitations
In addition current weight and balance calculations with critical forward and aft loading (if reshyquired) a loading schedule (if required) and appropriate placardshying must be included A list of required optional and special equipment must accompany the weight and balance data And lastly FAA Form 337 (Major Repair amp Mashyjor Alteration) must be completed by the supervising AampPIA Aircraft and engine logbooks must have apshypropriate entries made and registration data must be shown After many months (or should I say years) of restoration work perhaps that small piece of paper that says PERMANENT AIRWORTHINESS CERTIFICATE-STANDARD is now in your hand Categories of the airshyworthiness certificate are NORMAL UTILITY and ACROBATIC
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Mike Sleineke
Yeah well just strip it and paint it
Shouldnt take more than a month Thats what Ronnie Cox and Greg Davis of Ft Lauderdale Florida said about their 1962 250 Comanche
Sound familiar That kind of comshyment is right up there with Well just clean up a few of the instrushyments or Gee wouldnt it look better with a new windshield
Not once in the history of vinshytage con tern porary airplanes has anyone
1 Removed just one part painted it and put it right back on without removing a bunch more first
2 Started to do just one restoration operation eg re-bush the landing gear and done only that one thing
3 Taken an engine off overhauled it and put it back on without redoshying everything in sight
4 Reupholstered just the front seats and stopped there
You get the picture Airplanes are a lot like tar babies and once you get
your fingers into them they generally suck you in right up to your navel and don t let you go until theres nothing left to do
Ronnie and Greg were both lookshying for a serious cross-country airplane they could use to run from Florida up to Ronnies summer house in the Michigan islands Ronnie had owned three Comanches in the past so that was his bird of choice For Greg it would be his first airplane ownership
Ronnie had a long history of airshyplane ownership and involvement because his dad was heavily involved in aircraft and used to fly him all over the country Plus he owned a long string of airplanes including a PT-19 and a bunch of Pipers including Tri-Pacers Pacers and such
Ronnie started flying while he was still based in Ohio in the 1960s
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The 2S0-hp six-cylinder Lycoming gives the Comanche Bonanza-rivaling speed (a cruise of 161 to 181 mph) and a useful load carrying capacity of up to 1200 pounds
Updated radios and a refurbished interior make the Comanche a comfortable cross-country speedster
and his wife and son learned to fly from the same CFI who taught both his father and him to fly
Cox an elecshytrical engineer by training had started his own enshygineering business years ago and even worked a Seneca II into it for corposhyrate transportation so by the time the 1962 Comanche entered thei r lives he had 5500 hours of flying time He recently sought a change in career and sold his business to fly for a comshymuter airline
Ronnie also had a business buildshying engines for drag racers that Greg said really helped because Ronshynie just has a feel for what has to be done to a machine mechanically to make it right
Cox enjoyed rebuilding airplanes almost from the beginning and his total restoration of a Cessna 140 won a Lindy Award as recognition that he was a hands-on kind of guy who farmed out as little of his airplane reshybuilding projects as possible However it was in looking for a little help while his son and he were reshybuilding his sons Cessna 120 (which also won a Lindy) that he met Greg Davis
We needed to have some alushyminum bent to make up a new spar doubler for the 120 Ronnie said and someone suggested we contact
this guy on the other side of the field Ronnie
laughed when he said this inshydicating something was coming We walked in with the original
doubler in our hand which was a litshytle crude and showed it to Greg This
was the first time Id laid eyes on him Ronnie said
He looked at the doubler threw it down and said No I cant make something like this I thought he was joking or something Then he said If I make it itll be better than that Greg can be a little cantankerous and Ronnie Cox laughed again
Greg Davis has run Davis Aircraft Services in Ft Lauderdale since 1985 and he specializes in doing structural repairs on corporate airplanes As such he has developed both the facilshyity and ability to do practically anything with sheet metal So beshytween Ronnies mechanical ability and Gregs feeling for sheet metal there was practically nothing they couldnt do to a little airplane
I had been part of an RV-4 buildshying project but got out of it because I was just too busy flying a friends Pitts S-2B Greg explained He said I could fly it as much as I wanted so I started competing and between that and work I didnt really have the time to own my own airplane
There was something about the chemistry between the two men that prompted them to want a cross-counshy
try airplane that could carry two guys 120 gallons of gas and our bagshygage Enter the Comanche
They ran into the airplane in Aushygust 1992 and it was a really sad example of the breed but the price was right and the sheet metal looked good Also it had no corrosion
Then they started comparing the logbooks to the actual airplane and found that someone had a fanciful imagination when it came to the defishynition of airworthiness directive (AD) compliance The Comanche has a bunch of fairly serious and expenshysive ADs Ronnie pointed out Over the years someone had been signing off the ADs but not doing them As they put it the airplane had about 25 years of pencil maintenance
We found a perfect example of how well this airplane was mainshytained when we replaced the tires One of the tubes was dated 1962 and had been on the airplane since it was built Greg said
The airplane had also been landed gear-up at some point in its career Again the previous keepers of the logs didnt see fit to mention this litshytle incident There were a bunch of scab patches on the belly we had to get rid of and we put new gear doors on it
Their approach to the sheet metal was simple If a panel needed a repair they would just replace the panel We re-skinned part of the turtledeck
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WHAT OUR MEMBERS ARE RESTORING by HG Frautschy and Norm Petersen
AERONCA 7DC Sitting on the grass at Lee Bottom Airport near Louisville Kentucky Mark
and Wendie Paszkiewiczs (VAA 580997) 1946 Aeronca 7DC is ready for a flight in the warm hazy skies along the Ohio River First delivered as a 7 AC to a Phoenix Arizona flight school in 1946 with the installation of a Conshytinental 85-hp engine it became an Aeronca 7De Partially restored when they bought the project Mark and Wendie couldnt resist rebuilding some parts Now they fly the Champ around to local fly-ins and just have fun in it after work
CHAMPION 7GCB Posed in the afternoon sunshine of Sky
Harbor Airport in Duluth Minnesota is a beautiful 1962 Champion 7GCB N9912Y serial number 7GCB-133 mounted on an immaculate set of PKshy1800 floats Recently re-covered and painted by veteran mechanic Don Macor (VAA 28788) of Duluth Minnesota this particular aircraft is quite rare in that it has only 706 hours total time on airframe and engine has a factory original outside baggage compartment door and is one of only six 7GCBs remaining on the US Register In addition during its entire 39shyyear lifespan only one authorized inspectors name is in the aircraft logshybooks-Don Macor Don reports the airframe was in very good shape with only minor surface rust on a few places The covering is Ceconite 101 with bushytyrate dope in Daytona white Miami blue and black trim Note the seaplane auxiliary fins on the stabilizers necessary with the added mass of the floats ahead of the CG
Unusual to this model of 150 hp Champion is the outside baggage door on the right side of the fuselage seen here in the open position and ready for access to the baggage compartment
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because we removed the beacon It takes alshymost as long to patch the hole correctly as it does to replace the enshytire panel and then you dont have that ugly patch up there
The same thing held true for the cowlshying which they say is a weak point in a Coshymanche Building a new one consumed an enormous amount of time
Comanche control surfaces are reshyally thin mostly 016 and 020 so it doesnt take much to bend them up This airplane had apparently seen some hail that was heavy enough to dent the control surfaces but not the rest of the airplane so Greg said we re-skinned most of the control surfaces
Early in the project when the pair realized the airplane was going to take more than simply stripping and painting they decided on a specific goal We wanted to make it a truly modern airplane almost a new one so we could depend on it So we did everything but de-mate the wing We removed every single wire and sysshytem in the entire airplane and rebuilt every part of it according to Ronnie
When it came to the avionics Greg said it was really grungy It had Mark 12 radios in it and by the time we were done removing layers and layers of old wiring we took about SO pounds of wires out
Part of making it a modern airshyplane meant building reliability into everything ahead of the firewall We put a 260-hp exhaust system on it along with a lightweight starter new mags and most important we put a new fuel pump on it and had it flowshychecked Weve had some really tragic accidents in the Comanche community because the fuel pump was working but it wasnt putting out enough to feed the engine at takeoff power
According to the pair the landing
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gear is another area that needs careful examination because it wears out quickly We pulled every bushing and part of the gear and found that much of it was really sloppy This makes it hard to rig and contributes to gear collapses We dont know the history to our airplanes accident but that could have played a part
Naturally everything in the inteshyrior was replaced including a new panel with modern everything and they installed shoulder harnesses at the same time To keep their passenshygers happy they installed a small TV set with a VCR in the back seat They also installed a 14-inch thick big windshield and routed the edges down so it would fit flush into the original mounting channels
It took five years to get the airshyplane ready to fly and then it took another three months to get the pashyperwork completed We filed eight 337s and one field approval Because I do so many similar things with the corporate aircraft I just approached this one the same way Greg Davis said I filed them all through a DER (deSignated engineering representashytive) but rather than doing them locally I invited the FAA to come up and take a look at the airplane
They are obviously proud of the FAAs reaction to the way they apshyproached their project II After they came up the first time they brought another group of guys up to take a look at it They told us they wanted everyone in their office to see this beshy
cause this is the way they like to see an airshyplane and the supshyporting paperwork done Seems like theres a lesson for the rest of us in there somewhere
Ronnie Cox said The Comanche is a great airplane but like all airplanes if it needs extensive work it can be really expensive if you dont do it yourshyself Theres an old
saying about Piper products Made by farmers for farmers and its true The airplane is really easy to work on but the best thing you can do is make sure you get a good airplane in the first place
Cox has a number of pOints that he said every wannabe Comanche owner should satisfy before he or she buys a particular airplane Besides the normal over-all condition stuff that affects every airplane there are some specifics which include
bull AD list and compliance-Undershystand what airworthiness directives affect the airplane and make sure they were actually done
bull Gear condition-Look for cracked knuckles and measure as many internal dimensions as posshysible
bull Gear-up damage-Gear-up landshyings often crush the structure that the gear motor is attached to Make sure it was repaired properly
bull Flap track condition-The flap tracks wear and need to be carefully checked
bull Flap motor-The flap actuation system and especially the motor have to be checked for condition
The CoxDavis Comanche has more than 200 hours on it now and its owners (or should they be called creators) say it does exactly what they wanted it to do It lets them go long distances in comfort and they have the peace of mind that comes from knowing everything within that airplane was done right
CHAMPION 7ED7FC Ownerpilot Mike Foote (VAA 365457) wrote to us concerning his terrific restoration IIManufactured by Champion Aircraft in 1959 N8539E began life as a Tri-Champ In 1983 it was convelted to a taidragshy
gerl but only 12 short flight hours later life changed dramatically for N8539E when it was severely damaged in a windstorm The ownerls initial impression was that it would never fly again The remains went through several owners each intent upon restorationl but finding the task a daunting onel each chose instead to pass it along to someone else with more ambition My tum came in July of1995 After 15 months ofintense restoration efforts N8539E became a plane again on October 261 1996 1 flew the plane from my home base in Olathel Kansas to Oshkosh in 1997 and had it judged in the Contemporary category My efforts were rewardedl as the Champion was selected as the Outstanding Champion aircraft for that year It is still going strong and is just as satisfying to fly today as it was for the first time II
TAYLORCRAFf DC-65
Chet Peek (VAA 13458) author of terrific books such as The First Cub and Resurrection ofa Jenny has gotshyten back into flying after losing his airplanes and Norman Oklahoma hangar during a tornado in 1998 Chefs bought Bruce Bixlers Taylorshycraft DC-65 This DC-65 is one of the rare early Taylorcraft Tandems which had aluminum spars and ribs A few in the same series became the first Taylorcraft L-2 liaison airplanes Chefs airplane is finished in the Civilian Training Programs colors of blue and yellow
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September Mystery Plane
by HG Frautschy
This months Mystery Plane is a rare metal plane from the collection of Pete Bowers
Send your answer to EAA Vinshytage Airp lane PO Box 3086 Oshkosh WI 54903-3086 Your anshyswer needs to be in no later than October 15 for inclusion in the Deshycember issue of Vintage Airplane
You can also send your response via e-m ail Send your answer to vintageeaaorg
Be sure to include both your name and address (especially your city and state) in the body of your not e and put (Month) Mystery Plane in the subject line
Plenty of you knew the June Mysshytery Plane surely one of those Don t you wish there was just one of th ese left kind of airplanes Heres our first letter
The Mystery Plane in the June 2001 edition of Vintage Airplane is an Ireshyland N-2 Neptune
Ireland N-2 Nep
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G Sumner Ireland had been an engineer for Curtiss up to 1926 He later formed Ireland Aircraft Inc at Curshytiss Field Garden City and marketed th e Ireland Comet Meteor Privateer and Neptune Th e N-2B Neptune (circa 1927) was a four-pla ce amphibian powshyered by a 300-hp Wright J-6 while the N-2C Nepshytun e was a fiv e-place amphibian with a 450-hp PampWWasp
Thomas H Lymburn Princeton Minnesota
And more on the various models of the Neptune
The June Mystery Plane is the Amshyphibians Incorporated Model N-2B or N-2C with either PampW Wa sp engine or the Wright Whirlwind 300 in the five- or six-place amphibian Modificashytions from the Ireland A ircraft Inc Model ND5-ND6 include strut covers and increased bow angle on the tip floats and an extended main hull float behind the step The three views are from the Aircraft Yearbook 3- View
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Drawings 1903-1946 Russ Brown Lyndhurst Ohio
With Juptn ers U S Civil A ircraft this one didn t take long to idenshytify Vol 2 p ages 151-153 for ATC 153 des cribes th e Ireland Neptun e N-2B With enough clarity in th e photo to note the license as NC-88K its listed as L ____v
production number 43
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and had a 300-hp Wright J-6 engine (affirmed by the long rocker-box eavshyers) (Abo ut this time some models were being upgraded with a 450 PampW Wasp for the model N-2C-ATC 248)
Ive always been very appreciative of Joe Juptners good coverage of all the ATCd US aircraft Over the years Ive been building scale models of more obshyscure aircraft as a hobby Ive drawn many of my plans from photos and dishymensions in US Civil Aircraft In fact I have a plan I drew for the Nepshytune N-2C though Ive not built it yet Thats why I recognized the June Mysshytery plane was a Neptune I lived in Ecuador for about 45 years and made most of the models of jungle hardshywoods in 1 32 scale
Bub Borman Dallas Texas
Junes Mystery Plane was easy It is Irelands Neptune NC-89K shown on page 143 of us Civil Aircraft Vol 3
by Juptner Both pictures were probably taken the same day Note the man at left in both pictures same suit hat and tie Note the taped wire or tube on left wing forward strut
Excuse this old typewriter Im 81 and darned ifIll get a new one now
Good magazine good association good people Thanks
Albert B Aplin Chuluota Florida
Ju st a note to say I think the Jun e Mystery Plane is one of the Ireland Airshycraft Inc Neptune series
G Sumner Irelands ideas on flying boats pre-date this N-2C version by several years so the name was not new to aviation
Th e N-2C for the June issue was one of about nine built in late 1929 and the early 1930s
It was powered by a 450-hp Pratt amp Whitn ey Wasp and had a chromoly frame around which were bulkheads of duralumin to which were fastened
formers and then the outer aluminum skin
Hope this entry will serve to put me in the winners circle But then you always are when you join the V AA
John Kennelley Norwalk Iowa
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Weve gotten plenty of comshyments about the article concerning bulging fabric While it wasnt part of my column originally many of you have addressed your comments to me so Ill check in on the freshyquency
Before we get to that Id like to update you on the status of our Champ airworthiness directive compliance It went fine as you may recall reading in my July colshyumn but a funny thing happened after flying a bit in the rain-the paint we sprayed over the patches has started to come off Dang Usshying MEK I thought Id completely removed the lemon-scented furnishyture polish I use regularly to clean the leading edges but I guess I was wrong The paint on the leading edges is beginning to peel HG and I wonder if they put any silishycone in the polish Doesnt say so on the can but maybe its a secret ingredient The peeling paint makes the new name (see photo on page 26) for the Champ even more accurate
Lets get on with the loose fabric discussion
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First loose fabric is a hazard for a couple of reasons Loose fabric can chafe against fairing strips and fasshyteners weakening it If a fabric edge is caught in the slipstream it can easily be torn away The results can be disastrous If it gets tangled up with a control surface it can even cause a loss of control and at the very least the loose wildly flapping fabric can be a huge distraction Heres what some others had to say I cant say I agree with everyones comments but it certainly is intershyesting to see how fabrics are being applied in shops around the world Heres our first note
You must have received a lot of comments about the Stinsons bulging fabric Ill give you my 2~ worth
Ive re-covered at least four during the past 45 years and dozens of reshycovering jobs on many types of aircraft Ive used cotton Irish linen Ceconite Razorback and Stits Im sticking with Ceconite 101 which [ like best I like the smell of dope beshysides all the other good features
When I tighten Ceconite I set my iron at 400degF to 450degF ] do the initial
tightening with a heat gun Then] work it with the iron evenly until] can feel the right tautness Thats just the right drumming sound and feel After the first coat ofprimer nishytrate dope there may be a few slack areas I then go over them again but never holding the iron in one place very long
Every Stinson I re-covered had screws on the four stringers on top of the fuselage from the windshield back about 3 or 4 feet spaced 3 or 4 inches apart ] just looked at three Stinsons on our flight line and they all have the screws
Don Macor Duluth Minnesota
Dons method might work well for him but Id hesitate to suggest it to anyone else In particular the use of a heat gun is prohibited in the Poly-Fiber and other process manuals that deal with the installashytion of Dacron fabric Uneven heat application is the reason it is disshycouraged Id also point out that the Cooper Superflight manual among others highlights the fact that Dacron fabric will start to m~lt
when heated above 450degF Thats why Don says he does not linger too long when shrinking the fabric with an iron set above 400degF
I just received my July issue of Vinshytage Airplane I always look forward to its arriva l That cover photo of the Stearman is beautiful Hats off to Jim Koepnick who does such a great job ofphotographing these old planes
I was drawn to the article on page 4 Is that Covering too Slack I have an uncovered Stinson 108-3 sitting in my garage so perhaps I can shed some light on some of the details about covshyering the Stinson 108 series In the article someone said Id be tempted to rib-stitch the fabric to the upper stringers on the fuselage Id suggest avoiding that temptation The Stinson used 4 PK screws to attach the fabric to the ribs and to the stringers above the fuselage I know because I have a coffee can with hundreds of these screws that I removed from my plane Above the fuselage there are four hatshysection aluminum stringers On my Stinson the fabric was attached to each of these stringers with 10 PK screws at 3-inch intervals beginning aft of the leading edge and running back just aft of the rear spar I believe thats how it was done originally I would not suggest rib-stitching beshycause the sharp edges of the hat-section stringers would cut the lacing And of course there is the matter of legality Rib-stitching would be a modification from the original construction certainly not appropriate in this situation
The photo on page 5 shows apparshyent ballooning of the fabric over the cabin area of the fuselage but theres more to this than meets the eye At the Stinson factory a blanket of fibershyglass insulation was installed above the cabin Old photos show this insushylation installed above the stringers I believe the fabric was then attached through the insulation to the stringers with the PK screws That puffy look above the cabin may be caused (at least in part) by the insulation Ive
We had a couple of folks ask if we could show a comparison shot highlighting loose fabric with the Stinson as an example In 1999 EAAs crack photo staff took air-to-air photos of a couple of Stinsons The top photo shows the fabric ballooning above the cabin In the lower photo the airplane restored by noted Stinson 108 rebuilder Butch Walsh of Arrington Virginia clearly shows the 4 PK (Parker-Kalon) screws that secure the fabric to the cabin roof stringers before the finishing tapes are applied
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discussion Im sure there are others out there who know more about this than I do Id enjoy hearing from anyshyone interes ted in Stinsons I have a website that I call Hangar 9 Aeroworks It features my project and other information on the 108-series Stinsons The URL is wwwhangar9 aeroworkscom
John Baker Damascus Maryland
Dip and HG were the first to agree with the members who wrote and called in to take them to ta sk for not confirming the exact method of attachment used by Stinson The intent of the original write-up was not to compos e a Stinson maintenance manual but to highlight the hazards inherent in any fabric job that is not propshyerly installed Our comments were meant to elicit a response from the membership in cluding expe rts like Butch Walsh Boy did they ever respond
Each of us is required to confirm the exact methods us ed by the manufacturer or subsequently apshyproved modifications and to scrupulously duplicate those methshyods The type certificate drawings and other information are often
seen Stinsons with the original type insulation that had the puffy look while sitting quietly on the ground
Dip Davis is correct that the Stinshyson did not originally cover the tanks on the 108s though Ive seen many restorations with the tanks covered There can be a bit of a problem with fabric tapes not adhering well to the perimeter of the tanks In fact I had a few tapes come loose once on a trip to EAA Chapter 643 s fl y-in at Pittstown New Jersey in 1993 A litshytle contact cem ent and some help from Chapter 643 got me back home okay Shortly after that I decided it was time for a complete re-cover job
Here s one more item about balshylooning fabric on the Stinson 108s that I learned from Stinson guru Butch Walsh The cabin fresh air intakes are on the leading edge of th e wing (as shown on page 17 of th e March issue of Vintage Airplane) Th ese vents feed into a chamber inside the inboard rib bay This chamber is not sealed very well so forced air spills out into the wing as well as into the cabin Taking care to seal this chamshyber can eliminate some problems with fabric on the inboard portion of th e wing and will provide more fresh air in the cabin
I hope this will contribute to the
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After we compiled with AD 2000shy25-02 the Champ looked a bit more shop-worn so we gave it a new name
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Dont blindly follow the lead of someone who may have restored the airplane in the past-they ma y have missed something that is required How many times have you seen a poorly placed inspection hole only to hear II But that was the way it was inshystalled on the airplane when I got it I Only the factory drawings and any supplemental type certifishy
cates (STC) or other approved modifications can change the aircrafts legal configushyration and the method of fabric installation is part of that configushyration
As both HG and I have pOinted out in the past the covering supshypliers have specific instructions on how their covering methods are to be installed Since covering with the Poly-Fiber Cooper Superflight Ai r-Tech or other processes were not included in the type certificate for the airplanes that we were dealshying with here an STC for their installation was obtained by the resp ective companies If their method is not followed you run the risk of having the covering job re jected by an IA (AampP with inshyspection authorization) mechanic andor the FAA for not conformshying to the STC If an STCd part is installed on an aircraft and the methods spelled out in the STC are not followed the aircraft is unshyairworthy Un-airworthy aircraft dont have very good resale values and besides you can t fly them And thats the point of all of this right Let s get out there do it right and fly safely
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is the only source of data for the reshystorer If youre really lucky there may be copies of original factory drawings available as a valuable supplement However most of the factory drawings for many antique aircraft have been destroyed Fortushynately for Waco restorers factory drawings are available Drawings are invaluable when restoring old airplanes I searched for the Comshymand-Aire drawings but determined that they had all been destroyed However in my search I did locate some valuable type deshysign data from a most unusual source which might be fuel for anshyother story
In the mid 1930s the aviation inshydustry continued to grow By an act of Congress the government creshyated the Civil Aeronautics Administration (CAA) The CAA took regulations created by the Aeronautics Branch of the Departshyment of Commerce and expanded its bureaucratic role in aviation It created Civil Aviation Regulations (CAR) and Civil Aviation Manuals (CAM) Requirements of approved type were now contained in the CARs CAR 3 was certification for small aircraft Also to appear was the mechanics bible CAM 18 which spelled out requirements for major repairs to aircraft This publishycation evolved into the present FAA Advisory Circulars AC4313-1B andshy2B which give data on major repairs and alterations
The annual re-certificating of airshycraft was still required and a new airworthiness certificate was given to the owner after the airplane was approved for return to service As the workload increased a new method of certificating was created DeSignated aircraft maintenance inshyspectors (DAM I) were selected to take over the re-certificating duties These were well-experienced airshy
craft and engine (AampE) mechanics that were hand selected by local CAA maintenance inspectors The airworthiness certificate was still isshysued every year but in the mid-1950s about the time that the Federal Aviation Agency (FAA) came to power things began to change for airworthiness certificates They became permanent The aircraft could be re-certificated every year by a DAMI and later by an FAA airshyframe and powerplant (AampP) mechanic who holds an inspection authorization (IA) So today the AampP with IA can return to service annual inspections many major reshypairs and some major alterations
Congress created the Federal Avishyation Agency in 1958 Soon after the word II Agency was dropped in favor of II Administration And government control and bureaushycracy continued to grow ever larger
While we are on the subject of the FAA perhaps an easy method to distinguish differences between mashyjor repairs and major alterations is to apply the following
If the repair returns the aircraft to its original type certificate afshyfects airworthiness and cannot be done using elementary techniques then it is a major repair
If the repair (or modification) alshyters conformity to the original type design data then it is a major alteration
If an AampP mechanic cannot apshyprove a major repair or major alteration then a field approval by an FAA maintenance inspector must be obtained Sometimes this is more complicated than can be imagined Maybe a future story on FAA field approvals would prove inshyteresting
If an aircraft has never had a pershymanent airworthiness certificate then one must be obtained Here again the FAA issues this certifishycate To obtain that treasured piece of paper you must fill out an applishy
cation and prove that the airplane conforms to its type certificate Sometimes this is very difficult Esshypecially if the original type design data is incomplete or missing I have seen file cabinets in FAA headshyquarters with drawers containing type design data Just like Joe Juptshyners US Civil Aircraft books each drawer had a folder with the ATC number on top Some of the folders contained data while some were empty When the folder was empty the FAA had no type design data other than data that was published in Aircraft Engine and Propeller Listing which is not very much
For the coveted permanent airshyworthiness certificate an FAA representative will conduct a conshyformity inspection The basis for the inspection could be one or more of the following FAA Airshycraft Engine and Propeller Listing or Specification Sheets microfiche of original aircraft records containshying airworthiness and registration data factory drawings (if available) and aircraft and engine operating limitations
In addition current weight and balance calculations with critical forward and aft loading (if reshyquired) a loading schedule (if required) and appropriate placardshying must be included A list of required optional and special equipment must accompany the weight and balance data And lastly FAA Form 337 (Major Repair amp Mashyjor Alteration) must be completed by the supervising AampPIA Aircraft and engine logbooks must have apshypropriate entries made and registration data must be shown After many months (or should I say years) of restoration work perhaps that small piece of paper that says PERMANENT AIRWORTHINESS CERTIFICATE-STANDARD is now in your hand Categories of the airshyworthiness certificate are NORMAL UTILITY and ACROBATIC
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Mike Sleineke
Yeah well just strip it and paint it
Shouldnt take more than a month Thats what Ronnie Cox and Greg Davis of Ft Lauderdale Florida said about their 1962 250 Comanche
Sound familiar That kind of comshyment is right up there with Well just clean up a few of the instrushyments or Gee wouldnt it look better with a new windshield
Not once in the history of vinshytage con tern porary airplanes has anyone
1 Removed just one part painted it and put it right back on without removing a bunch more first
2 Started to do just one restoration operation eg re-bush the landing gear and done only that one thing
3 Taken an engine off overhauled it and put it back on without redoshying everything in sight
4 Reupholstered just the front seats and stopped there
You get the picture Airplanes are a lot like tar babies and once you get
your fingers into them they generally suck you in right up to your navel and don t let you go until theres nothing left to do
Ronnie and Greg were both lookshying for a serious cross-country airplane they could use to run from Florida up to Ronnies summer house in the Michigan islands Ronnie had owned three Comanches in the past so that was his bird of choice For Greg it would be his first airplane ownership
Ronnie had a long history of airshyplane ownership and involvement because his dad was heavily involved in aircraft and used to fly him all over the country Plus he owned a long string of airplanes including a PT-19 and a bunch of Pipers including Tri-Pacers Pacers and such
Ronnie started flying while he was still based in Ohio in the 1960s
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The 2S0-hp six-cylinder Lycoming gives the Comanche Bonanza-rivaling speed (a cruise of 161 to 181 mph) and a useful load carrying capacity of up to 1200 pounds
Updated radios and a refurbished interior make the Comanche a comfortable cross-country speedster
and his wife and son learned to fly from the same CFI who taught both his father and him to fly
Cox an elecshytrical engineer by training had started his own enshygineering business years ago and even worked a Seneca II into it for corposhyrate transportation so by the time the 1962 Comanche entered thei r lives he had 5500 hours of flying time He recently sought a change in career and sold his business to fly for a comshymuter airline
Ronnie also had a business buildshying engines for drag racers that Greg said really helped because Ronshynie just has a feel for what has to be done to a machine mechanically to make it right
Cox enjoyed rebuilding airplanes almost from the beginning and his total restoration of a Cessna 140 won a Lindy Award as recognition that he was a hands-on kind of guy who farmed out as little of his airplane reshybuilding projects as possible However it was in looking for a little help while his son and he were reshybuilding his sons Cessna 120 (which also won a Lindy) that he met Greg Davis
We needed to have some alushyminum bent to make up a new spar doubler for the 120 Ronnie said and someone suggested we contact
this guy on the other side of the field Ronnie
laughed when he said this inshydicating something was coming We walked in with the original
doubler in our hand which was a litshytle crude and showed it to Greg This
was the first time Id laid eyes on him Ronnie said
He looked at the doubler threw it down and said No I cant make something like this I thought he was joking or something Then he said If I make it itll be better than that Greg can be a little cantankerous and Ronnie Cox laughed again
Greg Davis has run Davis Aircraft Services in Ft Lauderdale since 1985 and he specializes in doing structural repairs on corporate airplanes As such he has developed both the facilshyity and ability to do practically anything with sheet metal So beshytween Ronnies mechanical ability and Gregs feeling for sheet metal there was practically nothing they couldnt do to a little airplane
I had been part of an RV-4 buildshying project but got out of it because I was just too busy flying a friends Pitts S-2B Greg explained He said I could fly it as much as I wanted so I started competing and between that and work I didnt really have the time to own my own airplane
There was something about the chemistry between the two men that prompted them to want a cross-counshy
try airplane that could carry two guys 120 gallons of gas and our bagshygage Enter the Comanche
They ran into the airplane in Aushygust 1992 and it was a really sad example of the breed but the price was right and the sheet metal looked good Also it had no corrosion
Then they started comparing the logbooks to the actual airplane and found that someone had a fanciful imagination when it came to the defishynition of airworthiness directive (AD) compliance The Comanche has a bunch of fairly serious and expenshysive ADs Ronnie pointed out Over the years someone had been signing off the ADs but not doing them As they put it the airplane had about 25 years of pencil maintenance
We found a perfect example of how well this airplane was mainshytained when we replaced the tires One of the tubes was dated 1962 and had been on the airplane since it was built Greg said
The airplane had also been landed gear-up at some point in its career Again the previous keepers of the logs didnt see fit to mention this litshytle incident There were a bunch of scab patches on the belly we had to get rid of and we put new gear doors on it
Their approach to the sheet metal was simple If a panel needed a repair they would just replace the panel We re-skinned part of the turtledeck
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WHAT OUR MEMBERS ARE RESTORING by HG Frautschy and Norm Petersen
AERONCA 7DC Sitting on the grass at Lee Bottom Airport near Louisville Kentucky Mark
and Wendie Paszkiewiczs (VAA 580997) 1946 Aeronca 7DC is ready for a flight in the warm hazy skies along the Ohio River First delivered as a 7 AC to a Phoenix Arizona flight school in 1946 with the installation of a Conshytinental 85-hp engine it became an Aeronca 7De Partially restored when they bought the project Mark and Wendie couldnt resist rebuilding some parts Now they fly the Champ around to local fly-ins and just have fun in it after work
CHAMPION 7GCB Posed in the afternoon sunshine of Sky
Harbor Airport in Duluth Minnesota is a beautiful 1962 Champion 7GCB N9912Y serial number 7GCB-133 mounted on an immaculate set of PKshy1800 floats Recently re-covered and painted by veteran mechanic Don Macor (VAA 28788) of Duluth Minnesota this particular aircraft is quite rare in that it has only 706 hours total time on airframe and engine has a factory original outside baggage compartment door and is one of only six 7GCBs remaining on the US Register In addition during its entire 39shyyear lifespan only one authorized inspectors name is in the aircraft logshybooks-Don Macor Don reports the airframe was in very good shape with only minor surface rust on a few places The covering is Ceconite 101 with bushytyrate dope in Daytona white Miami blue and black trim Note the seaplane auxiliary fins on the stabilizers necessary with the added mass of the floats ahead of the CG
Unusual to this model of 150 hp Champion is the outside baggage door on the right side of the fuselage seen here in the open position and ready for access to the baggage compartment
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because we removed the beacon It takes alshymost as long to patch the hole correctly as it does to replace the enshytire panel and then you dont have that ugly patch up there
The same thing held true for the cowlshying which they say is a weak point in a Coshymanche Building a new one consumed an enormous amount of time
Comanche control surfaces are reshyally thin mostly 016 and 020 so it doesnt take much to bend them up This airplane had apparently seen some hail that was heavy enough to dent the control surfaces but not the rest of the airplane so Greg said we re-skinned most of the control surfaces
Early in the project when the pair realized the airplane was going to take more than simply stripping and painting they decided on a specific goal We wanted to make it a truly modern airplane almost a new one so we could depend on it So we did everything but de-mate the wing We removed every single wire and sysshytem in the entire airplane and rebuilt every part of it according to Ronnie
When it came to the avionics Greg said it was really grungy It had Mark 12 radios in it and by the time we were done removing layers and layers of old wiring we took about SO pounds of wires out
Part of making it a modern airshyplane meant building reliability into everything ahead of the firewall We put a 260-hp exhaust system on it along with a lightweight starter new mags and most important we put a new fuel pump on it and had it flowshychecked Weve had some really tragic accidents in the Comanche community because the fuel pump was working but it wasnt putting out enough to feed the engine at takeoff power
According to the pair the landing
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gear is another area that needs careful examination because it wears out quickly We pulled every bushing and part of the gear and found that much of it was really sloppy This makes it hard to rig and contributes to gear collapses We dont know the history to our airplanes accident but that could have played a part
Naturally everything in the inteshyrior was replaced including a new panel with modern everything and they installed shoulder harnesses at the same time To keep their passenshygers happy they installed a small TV set with a VCR in the back seat They also installed a 14-inch thick big windshield and routed the edges down so it would fit flush into the original mounting channels
It took five years to get the airshyplane ready to fly and then it took another three months to get the pashyperwork completed We filed eight 337s and one field approval Because I do so many similar things with the corporate aircraft I just approached this one the same way Greg Davis said I filed them all through a DER (deSignated engineering representashytive) but rather than doing them locally I invited the FAA to come up and take a look at the airplane
They are obviously proud of the FAAs reaction to the way they apshyproached their project II After they came up the first time they brought another group of guys up to take a look at it They told us they wanted everyone in their office to see this beshy
cause this is the way they like to see an airshyplane and the supshyporting paperwork done Seems like theres a lesson for the rest of us in there somewhere
Ronnie Cox said The Comanche is a great airplane but like all airplanes if it needs extensive work it can be really expensive if you dont do it yourshyself Theres an old
saying about Piper products Made by farmers for farmers and its true The airplane is really easy to work on but the best thing you can do is make sure you get a good airplane in the first place
Cox has a number of pOints that he said every wannabe Comanche owner should satisfy before he or she buys a particular airplane Besides the normal over-all condition stuff that affects every airplane there are some specifics which include
bull AD list and compliance-Undershystand what airworthiness directives affect the airplane and make sure they were actually done
bull Gear condition-Look for cracked knuckles and measure as many internal dimensions as posshysible
bull Gear-up damage-Gear-up landshyings often crush the structure that the gear motor is attached to Make sure it was repaired properly
bull Flap track condition-The flap tracks wear and need to be carefully checked
bull Flap motor-The flap actuation system and especially the motor have to be checked for condition
The CoxDavis Comanche has more than 200 hours on it now and its owners (or should they be called creators) say it does exactly what they wanted it to do It lets them go long distances in comfort and they have the peace of mind that comes from knowing everything within that airplane was done right
CHAMPION 7ED7FC Ownerpilot Mike Foote (VAA 365457) wrote to us concerning his terrific restoration IIManufactured by Champion Aircraft in 1959 N8539E began life as a Tri-Champ In 1983 it was convelted to a taidragshy
gerl but only 12 short flight hours later life changed dramatically for N8539E when it was severely damaged in a windstorm The ownerls initial impression was that it would never fly again The remains went through several owners each intent upon restorationl but finding the task a daunting onel each chose instead to pass it along to someone else with more ambition My tum came in July of1995 After 15 months ofintense restoration efforts N8539E became a plane again on October 261 1996 1 flew the plane from my home base in Olathel Kansas to Oshkosh in 1997 and had it judged in the Contemporary category My efforts were rewardedl as the Champion was selected as the Outstanding Champion aircraft for that year It is still going strong and is just as satisfying to fly today as it was for the first time II
TAYLORCRAFf DC-65
Chet Peek (VAA 13458) author of terrific books such as The First Cub and Resurrection ofa Jenny has gotshyten back into flying after losing his airplanes and Norman Oklahoma hangar during a tornado in 1998 Chefs bought Bruce Bixlers Taylorshycraft DC-65 This DC-65 is one of the rare early Taylorcraft Tandems which had aluminum spars and ribs A few in the same series became the first Taylorcraft L-2 liaison airplanes Chefs airplane is finished in the Civilian Training Programs colors of blue and yellow
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September Mystery Plane
by HG Frautschy
This months Mystery Plane is a rare metal plane from the collection of Pete Bowers
Send your answer to EAA Vinshytage Airp lane PO Box 3086 Oshkosh WI 54903-3086 Your anshyswer needs to be in no later than October 15 for inclusion in the Deshycember issue of Vintage Airplane
You can also send your response via e-m ail Send your answer to vintageeaaorg
Be sure to include both your name and address (especially your city and state) in the body of your not e and put (Month) Mystery Plane in the subject line
Plenty of you knew the June Mysshytery Plane surely one of those Don t you wish there was just one of th ese left kind of airplanes Heres our first letter
The Mystery Plane in the June 2001 edition of Vintage Airplane is an Ireshyland N-2 Neptune
Ireland N-2 Nep
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G Sumner Ireland had been an engineer for Curtiss up to 1926 He later formed Ireland Aircraft Inc at Curshytiss Field Garden City and marketed th e Ireland Comet Meteor Privateer and Neptune Th e N-2B Neptune (circa 1927) was a four-pla ce amphibian powshyered by a 300-hp Wright J-6 while the N-2C Nepshytun e was a fiv e-place amphibian with a 450-hp PampWWasp
Thomas H Lymburn Princeton Minnesota
And more on the various models of the Neptune
The June Mystery Plane is the Amshyphibians Incorporated Model N-2B or N-2C with either PampW Wa sp engine or the Wright Whirlwind 300 in the five- or six-place amphibian Modificashytions from the Ireland A ircraft Inc Model ND5-ND6 include strut covers and increased bow angle on the tip floats and an extended main hull float behind the step The three views are from the Aircraft Yearbook 3- View
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Drawings 1903-1946 Russ Brown Lyndhurst Ohio
With Juptn ers U S Civil A ircraft this one didn t take long to idenshytify Vol 2 p ages 151-153 for ATC 153 des cribes th e Ireland Neptun e N-2B With enough clarity in th e photo to note the license as NC-88K its listed as L ____v
production number 43
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and had a 300-hp Wright J-6 engine (affirmed by the long rocker-box eavshyers) (Abo ut this time some models were being upgraded with a 450 PampW Wasp for the model N-2C-ATC 248)
Ive always been very appreciative of Joe Juptners good coverage of all the ATCd US aircraft Over the years Ive been building scale models of more obshyscure aircraft as a hobby Ive drawn many of my plans from photos and dishymensions in US Civil Aircraft In fact I have a plan I drew for the Nepshytune N-2C though Ive not built it yet Thats why I recognized the June Mysshytery plane was a Neptune I lived in Ecuador for about 45 years and made most of the models of jungle hardshywoods in 1 32 scale
Bub Borman Dallas Texas
Junes Mystery Plane was easy It is Irelands Neptune NC-89K shown on page 143 of us Civil Aircraft Vol 3
by Juptner Both pictures were probably taken the same day Note the man at left in both pictures same suit hat and tie Note the taped wire or tube on left wing forward strut
Excuse this old typewriter Im 81 and darned ifIll get a new one now
Good magazine good association good people Thanks
Albert B Aplin Chuluota Florida
Ju st a note to say I think the Jun e Mystery Plane is one of the Ireland Airshycraft Inc Neptune series
G Sumner Irelands ideas on flying boats pre-date this N-2C version by several years so the name was not new to aviation
Th e N-2C for the June issue was one of about nine built in late 1929 and the early 1930s
It was powered by a 450-hp Pratt amp Whitn ey Wasp and had a chromoly frame around which were bulkheads of duralumin to which were fastened
formers and then the outer aluminum skin
Hope this entry will serve to put me in the winners circle But then you always are when you join the V AA
John Kennelley Norwalk Iowa
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Feedback on Loose Fabric
Weve gotten plenty of comshyments about the article concerning bulging fabric While it wasnt part of my column originally many of you have addressed your comments to me so Ill check in on the freshyquency
Before we get to that Id like to update you on the status of our Champ airworthiness directive compliance It went fine as you may recall reading in my July colshyumn but a funny thing happened after flying a bit in the rain-the paint we sprayed over the patches has started to come off Dang Usshying MEK I thought Id completely removed the lemon-scented furnishyture polish I use regularly to clean the leading edges but I guess I was wrong The paint on the leading edges is beginning to peel HG and I wonder if they put any silishycone in the polish Doesnt say so on the can but maybe its a secret ingredient The peeling paint makes the new name (see photo on page 26) for the Champ even more accurate
Lets get on with the loose fabric discussion
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First loose fabric is a hazard for a couple of reasons Loose fabric can chafe against fairing strips and fasshyteners weakening it If a fabric edge is caught in the slipstream it can easily be torn away The results can be disastrous If it gets tangled up with a control surface it can even cause a loss of control and at the very least the loose wildly flapping fabric can be a huge distraction Heres what some others had to say I cant say I agree with everyones comments but it certainly is intershyesting to see how fabrics are being applied in shops around the world Heres our first note
You must have received a lot of comments about the Stinsons bulging fabric Ill give you my 2~ worth
Ive re-covered at least four during the past 45 years and dozens of reshycovering jobs on many types of aircraft Ive used cotton Irish linen Ceconite Razorback and Stits Im sticking with Ceconite 101 which [ like best I like the smell of dope beshysides all the other good features
When I tighten Ceconite I set my iron at 400degF to 450degF ] do the initial
tightening with a heat gun Then] work it with the iron evenly until] can feel the right tautness Thats just the right drumming sound and feel After the first coat ofprimer nishytrate dope there may be a few slack areas I then go over them again but never holding the iron in one place very long
Every Stinson I re-covered had screws on the four stringers on top of the fuselage from the windshield back about 3 or 4 feet spaced 3 or 4 inches apart ] just looked at three Stinsons on our flight line and they all have the screws
Don Macor Duluth Minnesota
Dons method might work well for him but Id hesitate to suggest it to anyone else In particular the use of a heat gun is prohibited in the Poly-Fiber and other process manuals that deal with the installashytion of Dacron fabric Uneven heat application is the reason it is disshycouraged Id also point out that the Cooper Superflight manual among others highlights the fact that Dacron fabric will start to m~lt
when heated above 450degF Thats why Don says he does not linger too long when shrinking the fabric with an iron set above 400degF
I just received my July issue of Vinshytage Airplane I always look forward to its arriva l That cover photo of the Stearman is beautiful Hats off to Jim Koepnick who does such a great job ofphotographing these old planes
I was drawn to the article on page 4 Is that Covering too Slack I have an uncovered Stinson 108-3 sitting in my garage so perhaps I can shed some light on some of the details about covshyering the Stinson 108 series In the article someone said Id be tempted to rib-stitch the fabric to the upper stringers on the fuselage Id suggest avoiding that temptation The Stinson used 4 PK screws to attach the fabric to the ribs and to the stringers above the fuselage I know because I have a coffee can with hundreds of these screws that I removed from my plane Above the fuselage there are four hatshysection aluminum stringers On my Stinson the fabric was attached to each of these stringers with 10 PK screws at 3-inch intervals beginning aft of the leading edge and running back just aft of the rear spar I believe thats how it was done originally I would not suggest rib-stitching beshycause the sharp edges of the hat-section stringers would cut the lacing And of course there is the matter of legality Rib-stitching would be a modification from the original construction certainly not appropriate in this situation
The photo on page 5 shows apparshyent ballooning of the fabric over the cabin area of the fuselage but theres more to this than meets the eye At the Stinson factory a blanket of fibershyglass insulation was installed above the cabin Old photos show this insushylation installed above the stringers I believe the fabric was then attached through the insulation to the stringers with the PK screws That puffy look above the cabin may be caused (at least in part) by the insulation Ive
We had a couple of folks ask if we could show a comparison shot highlighting loose fabric with the Stinson as an example In 1999 EAAs crack photo staff took air-to-air photos of a couple of Stinsons The top photo shows the fabric ballooning above the cabin In the lower photo the airplane restored by noted Stinson 108 rebuilder Butch Walsh of Arrington Virginia clearly shows the 4 PK (Parker-Kalon) screws that secure the fabric to the cabin roof stringers before the finishing tapes are applied
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discussion Im sure there are others out there who know more about this than I do Id enjoy hearing from anyshyone interes ted in Stinsons I have a website that I call Hangar 9 Aeroworks It features my project and other information on the 108-series Stinsons The URL is wwwhangar9 aeroworkscom
John Baker Damascus Maryland
Dip and HG were the first to agree with the members who wrote and called in to take them to ta sk for not confirming the exact method of attachment used by Stinson The intent of the original write-up was not to compos e a Stinson maintenance manual but to highlight the hazards inherent in any fabric job that is not propshyerly installed Our comments were meant to elicit a response from the membership in cluding expe rts like Butch Walsh Boy did they ever respond
Each of us is required to confirm the exact methods us ed by the manufacturer or subsequently apshyproved modifications and to scrupulously duplicate those methshyods The type certificate drawings and other information are often
seen Stinsons with the original type insulation that had the puffy look while sitting quietly on the ground
Dip Davis is correct that the Stinshyson did not originally cover the tanks on the 108s though Ive seen many restorations with the tanks covered There can be a bit of a problem with fabric tapes not adhering well to the perimeter of the tanks In fact I had a few tapes come loose once on a trip to EAA Chapter 643 s fl y-in at Pittstown New Jersey in 1993 A litshytle contact cem ent and some help from Chapter 643 got me back home okay Shortly after that I decided it was time for a complete re-cover job
Here s one more item about balshylooning fabric on the Stinson 108s that I learned from Stinson guru Butch Walsh The cabin fresh air intakes are on the leading edge of th e wing (as shown on page 17 of th e March issue of Vintage Airplane) Th ese vents feed into a chamber inside the inboard rib bay This chamber is not sealed very well so forced air spills out into the wing as well as into the cabin Taking care to seal this chamshyber can eliminate some problems with fabric on the inboard portion of th e wing and will provide more fresh air in the cabin
I hope this will contribute to the
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Dont blindly follow the lead of someone who may have restored the airplane in the past-they ma y have missed something that is required How many times have you seen a poorly placed inspection hole only to hear II But that was the way it was inshystalled on the airplane when I got it I Only the factory drawings and any supplemental type certifishy
cates (STC) or other approved modifications can change the aircrafts legal configushyration and the method of fabric installation is part of that configushyration
As both HG and I have pOinted out in the past the covering supshypliers have specific instructions on how their covering methods are to be installed Since covering with the Poly-Fiber Cooper Superflight Ai r-Tech or other processes were not included in the type certificate for the airplanes that we were dealshying with here an STC for their installation was obtained by the resp ective companies If their method is not followed you run the risk of having the covering job re jected by an IA (AampP with inshyspection authorization) mechanic andor the FAA for not conformshying to the STC If an STCd part is installed on an aircraft and the methods spelled out in the STC are not followed the aircraft is unshyairworthy Un-airworthy aircraft dont have very good resale values and besides you can t fly them And thats the point of all of this right Let s get out there do it right and fly safely
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Shouldnt take more than a month Thats what Ronnie Cox and Greg Davis of Ft Lauderdale Florida said about their 1962 250 Comanche
Sound familiar That kind of comshyment is right up there with Well just clean up a few of the instrushyments or Gee wouldnt it look better with a new windshield
Not once in the history of vinshytage con tern porary airplanes has anyone
1 Removed just one part painted it and put it right back on without removing a bunch more first
2 Started to do just one restoration operation eg re-bush the landing gear and done only that one thing
3 Taken an engine off overhauled it and put it back on without redoshying everything in sight
4 Reupholstered just the front seats and stopped there
You get the picture Airplanes are a lot like tar babies and once you get
your fingers into them they generally suck you in right up to your navel and don t let you go until theres nothing left to do
Ronnie and Greg were both lookshying for a serious cross-country airplane they could use to run from Florida up to Ronnies summer house in the Michigan islands Ronnie had owned three Comanches in the past so that was his bird of choice For Greg it would be his first airplane ownership
Ronnie had a long history of airshyplane ownership and involvement because his dad was heavily involved in aircraft and used to fly him all over the country Plus he owned a long string of airplanes including a PT-19 and a bunch of Pipers including Tri-Pacers Pacers and such
Ronnie started flying while he was still based in Ohio in the 1960s
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The 2S0-hp six-cylinder Lycoming gives the Comanche Bonanza-rivaling speed (a cruise of 161 to 181 mph) and a useful load carrying capacity of up to 1200 pounds
Updated radios and a refurbished interior make the Comanche a comfortable cross-country speedster
and his wife and son learned to fly from the same CFI who taught both his father and him to fly
Cox an elecshytrical engineer by training had started his own enshygineering business years ago and even worked a Seneca II into it for corposhyrate transportation so by the time the 1962 Comanche entered thei r lives he had 5500 hours of flying time He recently sought a change in career and sold his business to fly for a comshymuter airline
Ronnie also had a business buildshying engines for drag racers that Greg said really helped because Ronshynie just has a feel for what has to be done to a machine mechanically to make it right
Cox enjoyed rebuilding airplanes almost from the beginning and his total restoration of a Cessna 140 won a Lindy Award as recognition that he was a hands-on kind of guy who farmed out as little of his airplane reshybuilding projects as possible However it was in looking for a little help while his son and he were reshybuilding his sons Cessna 120 (which also won a Lindy) that he met Greg Davis
We needed to have some alushyminum bent to make up a new spar doubler for the 120 Ronnie said and someone suggested we contact
this guy on the other side of the field Ronnie
laughed when he said this inshydicating something was coming We walked in with the original
doubler in our hand which was a litshytle crude and showed it to Greg This
was the first time Id laid eyes on him Ronnie said
He looked at the doubler threw it down and said No I cant make something like this I thought he was joking or something Then he said If I make it itll be better than that Greg can be a little cantankerous and Ronnie Cox laughed again
Greg Davis has run Davis Aircraft Services in Ft Lauderdale since 1985 and he specializes in doing structural repairs on corporate airplanes As such he has developed both the facilshyity and ability to do practically anything with sheet metal So beshytween Ronnies mechanical ability and Gregs feeling for sheet metal there was practically nothing they couldnt do to a little airplane
I had been part of an RV-4 buildshying project but got out of it because I was just too busy flying a friends Pitts S-2B Greg explained He said I could fly it as much as I wanted so I started competing and between that and work I didnt really have the time to own my own airplane
There was something about the chemistry between the two men that prompted them to want a cross-counshy
try airplane that could carry two guys 120 gallons of gas and our bagshygage Enter the Comanche
They ran into the airplane in Aushygust 1992 and it was a really sad example of the breed but the price was right and the sheet metal looked good Also it had no corrosion
Then they started comparing the logbooks to the actual airplane and found that someone had a fanciful imagination when it came to the defishynition of airworthiness directive (AD) compliance The Comanche has a bunch of fairly serious and expenshysive ADs Ronnie pointed out Over the years someone had been signing off the ADs but not doing them As they put it the airplane had about 25 years of pencil maintenance
We found a perfect example of how well this airplane was mainshytained when we replaced the tires One of the tubes was dated 1962 and had been on the airplane since it was built Greg said
The airplane had also been landed gear-up at some point in its career Again the previous keepers of the logs didnt see fit to mention this litshytle incident There were a bunch of scab patches on the belly we had to get rid of and we put new gear doors on it
Their approach to the sheet metal was simple If a panel needed a repair they would just replace the panel We re-skinned part of the turtledeck
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WHAT OUR MEMBERS ARE RESTORING by HG Frautschy and Norm Petersen
AERONCA 7DC Sitting on the grass at Lee Bottom Airport near Louisville Kentucky Mark
and Wendie Paszkiewiczs (VAA 580997) 1946 Aeronca 7DC is ready for a flight in the warm hazy skies along the Ohio River First delivered as a 7 AC to a Phoenix Arizona flight school in 1946 with the installation of a Conshytinental 85-hp engine it became an Aeronca 7De Partially restored when they bought the project Mark and Wendie couldnt resist rebuilding some parts Now they fly the Champ around to local fly-ins and just have fun in it after work
CHAMPION 7GCB Posed in the afternoon sunshine of Sky
Harbor Airport in Duluth Minnesota is a beautiful 1962 Champion 7GCB N9912Y serial number 7GCB-133 mounted on an immaculate set of PKshy1800 floats Recently re-covered and painted by veteran mechanic Don Macor (VAA 28788) of Duluth Minnesota this particular aircraft is quite rare in that it has only 706 hours total time on airframe and engine has a factory original outside baggage compartment door and is one of only six 7GCBs remaining on the US Register In addition during its entire 39shyyear lifespan only one authorized inspectors name is in the aircraft logshybooks-Don Macor Don reports the airframe was in very good shape with only minor surface rust on a few places The covering is Ceconite 101 with bushytyrate dope in Daytona white Miami blue and black trim Note the seaplane auxiliary fins on the stabilizers necessary with the added mass of the floats ahead of the CG
Unusual to this model of 150 hp Champion is the outside baggage door on the right side of the fuselage seen here in the open position and ready for access to the baggage compartment
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because we removed the beacon It takes alshymost as long to patch the hole correctly as it does to replace the enshytire panel and then you dont have that ugly patch up there
The same thing held true for the cowlshying which they say is a weak point in a Coshymanche Building a new one consumed an enormous amount of time
Comanche control surfaces are reshyally thin mostly 016 and 020 so it doesnt take much to bend them up This airplane had apparently seen some hail that was heavy enough to dent the control surfaces but not the rest of the airplane so Greg said we re-skinned most of the control surfaces
Early in the project when the pair realized the airplane was going to take more than simply stripping and painting they decided on a specific goal We wanted to make it a truly modern airplane almost a new one so we could depend on it So we did everything but de-mate the wing We removed every single wire and sysshytem in the entire airplane and rebuilt every part of it according to Ronnie
When it came to the avionics Greg said it was really grungy It had Mark 12 radios in it and by the time we were done removing layers and layers of old wiring we took about SO pounds of wires out
Part of making it a modern airshyplane meant building reliability into everything ahead of the firewall We put a 260-hp exhaust system on it along with a lightweight starter new mags and most important we put a new fuel pump on it and had it flowshychecked Weve had some really tragic accidents in the Comanche community because the fuel pump was working but it wasnt putting out enough to feed the engine at takeoff power
According to the pair the landing
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gear is another area that needs careful examination because it wears out quickly We pulled every bushing and part of the gear and found that much of it was really sloppy This makes it hard to rig and contributes to gear collapses We dont know the history to our airplanes accident but that could have played a part
Naturally everything in the inteshyrior was replaced including a new panel with modern everything and they installed shoulder harnesses at the same time To keep their passenshygers happy they installed a small TV set with a VCR in the back seat They also installed a 14-inch thick big windshield and routed the edges down so it would fit flush into the original mounting channels
It took five years to get the airshyplane ready to fly and then it took another three months to get the pashyperwork completed We filed eight 337s and one field approval Because I do so many similar things with the corporate aircraft I just approached this one the same way Greg Davis said I filed them all through a DER (deSignated engineering representashytive) but rather than doing them locally I invited the FAA to come up and take a look at the airplane
They are obviously proud of the FAAs reaction to the way they apshyproached their project II After they came up the first time they brought another group of guys up to take a look at it They told us they wanted everyone in their office to see this beshy
cause this is the way they like to see an airshyplane and the supshyporting paperwork done Seems like theres a lesson for the rest of us in there somewhere
Ronnie Cox said The Comanche is a great airplane but like all airplanes if it needs extensive work it can be really expensive if you dont do it yourshyself Theres an old
saying about Piper products Made by farmers for farmers and its true The airplane is really easy to work on but the best thing you can do is make sure you get a good airplane in the first place
Cox has a number of pOints that he said every wannabe Comanche owner should satisfy before he or she buys a particular airplane Besides the normal over-all condition stuff that affects every airplane there are some specifics which include
bull AD list and compliance-Undershystand what airworthiness directives affect the airplane and make sure they were actually done
bull Gear condition-Look for cracked knuckles and measure as many internal dimensions as posshysible
bull Gear-up damage-Gear-up landshyings often crush the structure that the gear motor is attached to Make sure it was repaired properly
bull Flap track condition-The flap tracks wear and need to be carefully checked
bull Flap motor-The flap actuation system and especially the motor have to be checked for condition
The CoxDavis Comanche has more than 200 hours on it now and its owners (or should they be called creators) say it does exactly what they wanted it to do It lets them go long distances in comfort and they have the peace of mind that comes from knowing everything within that airplane was done right
CHAMPION 7ED7FC Ownerpilot Mike Foote (VAA 365457) wrote to us concerning his terrific restoration IIManufactured by Champion Aircraft in 1959 N8539E began life as a Tri-Champ In 1983 it was convelted to a taidragshy
gerl but only 12 short flight hours later life changed dramatically for N8539E when it was severely damaged in a windstorm The ownerls initial impression was that it would never fly again The remains went through several owners each intent upon restorationl but finding the task a daunting onel each chose instead to pass it along to someone else with more ambition My tum came in July of1995 After 15 months ofintense restoration efforts N8539E became a plane again on October 261 1996 1 flew the plane from my home base in Olathel Kansas to Oshkosh in 1997 and had it judged in the Contemporary category My efforts were rewardedl as the Champion was selected as the Outstanding Champion aircraft for that year It is still going strong and is just as satisfying to fly today as it was for the first time II
TAYLORCRAFf DC-65
Chet Peek (VAA 13458) author of terrific books such as The First Cub and Resurrection ofa Jenny has gotshyten back into flying after losing his airplanes and Norman Oklahoma hangar during a tornado in 1998 Chefs bought Bruce Bixlers Taylorshycraft DC-65 This DC-65 is one of the rare early Taylorcraft Tandems which had aluminum spars and ribs A few in the same series became the first Taylorcraft L-2 liaison airplanes Chefs airplane is finished in the Civilian Training Programs colors of blue and yellow
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September Mystery Plane
by HG Frautschy
This months Mystery Plane is a rare metal plane from the collection of Pete Bowers
Send your answer to EAA Vinshytage Airp lane PO Box 3086 Oshkosh WI 54903-3086 Your anshyswer needs to be in no later than October 15 for inclusion in the Deshycember issue of Vintage Airplane
You can also send your response via e-m ail Send your answer to vintageeaaorg
Be sure to include both your name and address (especially your city and state) in the body of your not e and put (Month) Mystery Plane in the subject line
Plenty of you knew the June Mysshytery Plane surely one of those Don t you wish there was just one of th ese left kind of airplanes Heres our first letter
The Mystery Plane in the June 2001 edition of Vintage Airplane is an Ireshyland N-2 Neptune
Ireland N-2 Nep
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G Sumner Ireland had been an engineer for Curtiss up to 1926 He later formed Ireland Aircraft Inc at Curshytiss Field Garden City and marketed th e Ireland Comet Meteor Privateer and Neptune Th e N-2B Neptune (circa 1927) was a four-pla ce amphibian powshyered by a 300-hp Wright J-6 while the N-2C Nepshytun e was a fiv e-place amphibian with a 450-hp PampWWasp
Thomas H Lymburn Princeton Minnesota
And more on the various models of the Neptune
The June Mystery Plane is the Amshyphibians Incorporated Model N-2B or N-2C with either PampW Wa sp engine or the Wright Whirlwind 300 in the five- or six-place amphibian Modificashytions from the Ireland A ircraft Inc Model ND5-ND6 include strut covers and increased bow angle on the tip floats and an extended main hull float behind the step The three views are from the Aircraft Yearbook 3- View
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Drawings 1903-1946 Russ Brown Lyndhurst Ohio
With Juptn ers U S Civil A ircraft this one didn t take long to idenshytify Vol 2 p ages 151-153 for ATC 153 des cribes th e Ireland Neptun e N-2B With enough clarity in th e photo to note the license as NC-88K its listed as L ____v
production number 43
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and had a 300-hp Wright J-6 engine (affirmed by the long rocker-box eavshyers) (Abo ut this time some models were being upgraded with a 450 PampW Wasp for the model N-2C-ATC 248)
Ive always been very appreciative of Joe Juptners good coverage of all the ATCd US aircraft Over the years Ive been building scale models of more obshyscure aircraft as a hobby Ive drawn many of my plans from photos and dishymensions in US Civil Aircraft In fact I have a plan I drew for the Nepshytune N-2C though Ive not built it yet Thats why I recognized the June Mysshytery plane was a Neptune I lived in Ecuador for about 45 years and made most of the models of jungle hardshywoods in 1 32 scale
Bub Borman Dallas Texas
Junes Mystery Plane was easy It is Irelands Neptune NC-89K shown on page 143 of us Civil Aircraft Vol 3
by Juptner Both pictures were probably taken the same day Note the man at left in both pictures same suit hat and tie Note the taped wire or tube on left wing forward strut
Excuse this old typewriter Im 81 and darned ifIll get a new one now
Good magazine good association good people Thanks
Albert B Aplin Chuluota Florida
Ju st a note to say I think the Jun e Mystery Plane is one of the Ireland Airshycraft Inc Neptune series
G Sumner Irelands ideas on flying boats pre-date this N-2C version by several years so the name was not new to aviation
Th e N-2C for the June issue was one of about nine built in late 1929 and the early 1930s
It was powered by a 450-hp Pratt amp Whitn ey Wasp and had a chromoly frame around which were bulkheads of duralumin to which were fastened
formers and then the outer aluminum skin
Hope this entry will serve to put me in the winners circle But then you always are when you join the V AA
John Kennelley Norwalk Iowa
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Feedback on Loose Fabric
Weve gotten plenty of comshyments about the article concerning bulging fabric While it wasnt part of my column originally many of you have addressed your comments to me so Ill check in on the freshyquency
Before we get to that Id like to update you on the status of our Champ airworthiness directive compliance It went fine as you may recall reading in my July colshyumn but a funny thing happened after flying a bit in the rain-the paint we sprayed over the patches has started to come off Dang Usshying MEK I thought Id completely removed the lemon-scented furnishyture polish I use regularly to clean the leading edges but I guess I was wrong The paint on the leading edges is beginning to peel HG and I wonder if they put any silishycone in the polish Doesnt say so on the can but maybe its a secret ingredient The peeling paint makes the new name (see photo on page 26) for the Champ even more accurate
Lets get on with the loose fabric discussion
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First loose fabric is a hazard for a couple of reasons Loose fabric can chafe against fairing strips and fasshyteners weakening it If a fabric edge is caught in the slipstream it can easily be torn away The results can be disastrous If it gets tangled up with a control surface it can even cause a loss of control and at the very least the loose wildly flapping fabric can be a huge distraction Heres what some others had to say I cant say I agree with everyones comments but it certainly is intershyesting to see how fabrics are being applied in shops around the world Heres our first note
You must have received a lot of comments about the Stinsons bulging fabric Ill give you my 2~ worth
Ive re-covered at least four during the past 45 years and dozens of reshycovering jobs on many types of aircraft Ive used cotton Irish linen Ceconite Razorback and Stits Im sticking with Ceconite 101 which [ like best I like the smell of dope beshysides all the other good features
When I tighten Ceconite I set my iron at 400degF to 450degF ] do the initial
tightening with a heat gun Then] work it with the iron evenly until] can feel the right tautness Thats just the right drumming sound and feel After the first coat ofprimer nishytrate dope there may be a few slack areas I then go over them again but never holding the iron in one place very long
Every Stinson I re-covered had screws on the four stringers on top of the fuselage from the windshield back about 3 or 4 feet spaced 3 or 4 inches apart ] just looked at three Stinsons on our flight line and they all have the screws
Don Macor Duluth Minnesota
Dons method might work well for him but Id hesitate to suggest it to anyone else In particular the use of a heat gun is prohibited in the Poly-Fiber and other process manuals that deal with the installashytion of Dacron fabric Uneven heat application is the reason it is disshycouraged Id also point out that the Cooper Superflight manual among others highlights the fact that Dacron fabric will start to m~lt
when heated above 450degF Thats why Don says he does not linger too long when shrinking the fabric with an iron set above 400degF
I just received my July issue of Vinshytage Airplane I always look forward to its arriva l That cover photo of the Stearman is beautiful Hats off to Jim Koepnick who does such a great job ofphotographing these old planes
I was drawn to the article on page 4 Is that Covering too Slack I have an uncovered Stinson 108-3 sitting in my garage so perhaps I can shed some light on some of the details about covshyering the Stinson 108 series In the article someone said Id be tempted to rib-stitch the fabric to the upper stringers on the fuselage Id suggest avoiding that temptation The Stinson used 4 PK screws to attach the fabric to the ribs and to the stringers above the fuselage I know because I have a coffee can with hundreds of these screws that I removed from my plane Above the fuselage there are four hatshysection aluminum stringers On my Stinson the fabric was attached to each of these stringers with 10 PK screws at 3-inch intervals beginning aft of the leading edge and running back just aft of the rear spar I believe thats how it was done originally I would not suggest rib-stitching beshycause the sharp edges of the hat-section stringers would cut the lacing And of course there is the matter of legality Rib-stitching would be a modification from the original construction certainly not appropriate in this situation
The photo on page 5 shows apparshyent ballooning of the fabric over the cabin area of the fuselage but theres more to this than meets the eye At the Stinson factory a blanket of fibershyglass insulation was installed above the cabin Old photos show this insushylation installed above the stringers I believe the fabric was then attached through the insulation to the stringers with the PK screws That puffy look above the cabin may be caused (at least in part) by the insulation Ive
We had a couple of folks ask if we could show a comparison shot highlighting loose fabric with the Stinson as an example In 1999 EAAs crack photo staff took air-to-air photos of a couple of Stinsons The top photo shows the fabric ballooning above the cabin In the lower photo the airplane restored by noted Stinson 108 rebuilder Butch Walsh of Arrington Virginia clearly shows the 4 PK (Parker-Kalon) screws that secure the fabric to the cabin roof stringers before the finishing tapes are applied
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discussion Im sure there are others out there who know more about this than I do Id enjoy hearing from anyshyone interes ted in Stinsons I have a website that I call Hangar 9 Aeroworks It features my project and other information on the 108-series Stinsons The URL is wwwhangar9 aeroworkscom
John Baker Damascus Maryland
Dip and HG were the first to agree with the members who wrote and called in to take them to ta sk for not confirming the exact method of attachment used by Stinson The intent of the original write-up was not to compos e a Stinson maintenance manual but to highlight the hazards inherent in any fabric job that is not propshyerly installed Our comments were meant to elicit a response from the membership in cluding expe rts like Butch Walsh Boy did they ever respond
Each of us is required to confirm the exact methods us ed by the manufacturer or subsequently apshyproved modifications and to scrupulously duplicate those methshyods The type certificate drawings and other information are often
seen Stinsons with the original type insulation that had the puffy look while sitting quietly on the ground
Dip Davis is correct that the Stinshyson did not originally cover the tanks on the 108s though Ive seen many restorations with the tanks covered There can be a bit of a problem with fabric tapes not adhering well to the perimeter of the tanks In fact I had a few tapes come loose once on a trip to EAA Chapter 643 s fl y-in at Pittstown New Jersey in 1993 A litshytle contact cem ent and some help from Chapter 643 got me back home okay Shortly after that I decided it was time for a complete re-cover job
Here s one more item about balshylooning fabric on the Stinson 108s that I learned from Stinson guru Butch Walsh The cabin fresh air intakes are on the leading edge of th e wing (as shown on page 17 of th e March issue of Vintage Airplane) Th ese vents feed into a chamber inside the inboard rib bay This chamber is not sealed very well so forced air spills out into the wing as well as into the cabin Taking care to seal this chamshyber can eliminate some problems with fabric on the inboard portion of th e wing and will provide more fresh air in the cabin
I hope this will contribute to the
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After we compiled with AD 2000shy25-02 the Champ looked a bit more shop-worn so we gave it a new name
available from the type club for your particular model
Dont blindly follow the lead of someone who may have restored the airplane in the past-they ma y have missed something that is required How many times have you seen a poorly placed inspection hole only to hear II But that was the way it was inshystalled on the airplane when I got it I Only the factory drawings and any supplemental type certifishy
cates (STC) or other approved modifications can change the aircrafts legal configushyration and the method of fabric installation is part of that configushyration
As both HG and I have pOinted out in the past the covering supshypliers have specific instructions on how their covering methods are to be installed Since covering with the Poly-Fiber Cooper Superflight Ai r-Tech or other processes were not included in the type certificate for the airplanes that we were dealshying with here an STC for their installation was obtained by the resp ective companies If their method is not followed you run the risk of having the covering job re jected by an IA (AampP with inshyspection authorization) mechanic andor the FAA for not conformshying to the STC If an STCd part is installed on an aircraft and the methods spelled out in the STC are not followed the aircraft is unshyairworthy Un-airworthy aircraft dont have very good resale values and besides you can t fly them And thats the point of all of this right Let s get out there do it right and fly safely
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and his wife and son learned to fly from the same CFI who taught both his father and him to fly
Cox an elecshytrical engineer by training had started his own enshygineering business years ago and even worked a Seneca II into it for corposhyrate transportation so by the time the 1962 Comanche entered thei r lives he had 5500 hours of flying time He recently sought a change in career and sold his business to fly for a comshymuter airline
Ronnie also had a business buildshying engines for drag racers that Greg said really helped because Ronshynie just has a feel for what has to be done to a machine mechanically to make it right
Cox enjoyed rebuilding airplanes almost from the beginning and his total restoration of a Cessna 140 won a Lindy Award as recognition that he was a hands-on kind of guy who farmed out as little of his airplane reshybuilding projects as possible However it was in looking for a little help while his son and he were reshybuilding his sons Cessna 120 (which also won a Lindy) that he met Greg Davis
We needed to have some alushyminum bent to make up a new spar doubler for the 120 Ronnie said and someone suggested we contact
this guy on the other side of the field Ronnie
laughed when he said this inshydicating something was coming We walked in with the original
doubler in our hand which was a litshytle crude and showed it to Greg This
was the first time Id laid eyes on him Ronnie said
He looked at the doubler threw it down and said No I cant make something like this I thought he was joking or something Then he said If I make it itll be better than that Greg can be a little cantankerous and Ronnie Cox laughed again
Greg Davis has run Davis Aircraft Services in Ft Lauderdale since 1985 and he specializes in doing structural repairs on corporate airplanes As such he has developed both the facilshyity and ability to do practically anything with sheet metal So beshytween Ronnies mechanical ability and Gregs feeling for sheet metal there was practically nothing they couldnt do to a little airplane
I had been part of an RV-4 buildshying project but got out of it because I was just too busy flying a friends Pitts S-2B Greg explained He said I could fly it as much as I wanted so I started competing and between that and work I didnt really have the time to own my own airplane
There was something about the chemistry between the two men that prompted them to want a cross-counshy
try airplane that could carry two guys 120 gallons of gas and our bagshygage Enter the Comanche
They ran into the airplane in Aushygust 1992 and it was a really sad example of the breed but the price was right and the sheet metal looked good Also it had no corrosion
Then they started comparing the logbooks to the actual airplane and found that someone had a fanciful imagination when it came to the defishynition of airworthiness directive (AD) compliance The Comanche has a bunch of fairly serious and expenshysive ADs Ronnie pointed out Over the years someone had been signing off the ADs but not doing them As they put it the airplane had about 25 years of pencil maintenance
We found a perfect example of how well this airplane was mainshytained when we replaced the tires One of the tubes was dated 1962 and had been on the airplane since it was built Greg said
The airplane had also been landed gear-up at some point in its career Again the previous keepers of the logs didnt see fit to mention this litshytle incident There were a bunch of scab patches on the belly we had to get rid of and we put new gear doors on it
Their approach to the sheet metal was simple If a panel needed a repair they would just replace the panel We re-skinned part of the turtledeck
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WHAT OUR MEMBERS ARE RESTORING by HG Frautschy and Norm Petersen
AERONCA 7DC Sitting on the grass at Lee Bottom Airport near Louisville Kentucky Mark
and Wendie Paszkiewiczs (VAA 580997) 1946 Aeronca 7DC is ready for a flight in the warm hazy skies along the Ohio River First delivered as a 7 AC to a Phoenix Arizona flight school in 1946 with the installation of a Conshytinental 85-hp engine it became an Aeronca 7De Partially restored when they bought the project Mark and Wendie couldnt resist rebuilding some parts Now they fly the Champ around to local fly-ins and just have fun in it after work
CHAMPION 7GCB Posed in the afternoon sunshine of Sky
Harbor Airport in Duluth Minnesota is a beautiful 1962 Champion 7GCB N9912Y serial number 7GCB-133 mounted on an immaculate set of PKshy1800 floats Recently re-covered and painted by veteran mechanic Don Macor (VAA 28788) of Duluth Minnesota this particular aircraft is quite rare in that it has only 706 hours total time on airframe and engine has a factory original outside baggage compartment door and is one of only six 7GCBs remaining on the US Register In addition during its entire 39shyyear lifespan only one authorized inspectors name is in the aircraft logshybooks-Don Macor Don reports the airframe was in very good shape with only minor surface rust on a few places The covering is Ceconite 101 with bushytyrate dope in Daytona white Miami blue and black trim Note the seaplane auxiliary fins on the stabilizers necessary with the added mass of the floats ahead of the CG
Unusual to this model of 150 hp Champion is the outside baggage door on the right side of the fuselage seen here in the open position and ready for access to the baggage compartment
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because we removed the beacon It takes alshymost as long to patch the hole correctly as it does to replace the enshytire panel and then you dont have that ugly patch up there
The same thing held true for the cowlshying which they say is a weak point in a Coshymanche Building a new one consumed an enormous amount of time
Comanche control surfaces are reshyally thin mostly 016 and 020 so it doesnt take much to bend them up This airplane had apparently seen some hail that was heavy enough to dent the control surfaces but not the rest of the airplane so Greg said we re-skinned most of the control surfaces
Early in the project when the pair realized the airplane was going to take more than simply stripping and painting they decided on a specific goal We wanted to make it a truly modern airplane almost a new one so we could depend on it So we did everything but de-mate the wing We removed every single wire and sysshytem in the entire airplane and rebuilt every part of it according to Ronnie
When it came to the avionics Greg said it was really grungy It had Mark 12 radios in it and by the time we were done removing layers and layers of old wiring we took about SO pounds of wires out
Part of making it a modern airshyplane meant building reliability into everything ahead of the firewall We put a 260-hp exhaust system on it along with a lightweight starter new mags and most important we put a new fuel pump on it and had it flowshychecked Weve had some really tragic accidents in the Comanche community because the fuel pump was working but it wasnt putting out enough to feed the engine at takeoff power
According to the pair the landing
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gear is another area that needs careful examination because it wears out quickly We pulled every bushing and part of the gear and found that much of it was really sloppy This makes it hard to rig and contributes to gear collapses We dont know the history to our airplanes accident but that could have played a part
Naturally everything in the inteshyrior was replaced including a new panel with modern everything and they installed shoulder harnesses at the same time To keep their passenshygers happy they installed a small TV set with a VCR in the back seat They also installed a 14-inch thick big windshield and routed the edges down so it would fit flush into the original mounting channels
It took five years to get the airshyplane ready to fly and then it took another three months to get the pashyperwork completed We filed eight 337s and one field approval Because I do so many similar things with the corporate aircraft I just approached this one the same way Greg Davis said I filed them all through a DER (deSignated engineering representashytive) but rather than doing them locally I invited the FAA to come up and take a look at the airplane
They are obviously proud of the FAAs reaction to the way they apshyproached their project II After they came up the first time they brought another group of guys up to take a look at it They told us they wanted everyone in their office to see this beshy
cause this is the way they like to see an airshyplane and the supshyporting paperwork done Seems like theres a lesson for the rest of us in there somewhere
Ronnie Cox said The Comanche is a great airplane but like all airplanes if it needs extensive work it can be really expensive if you dont do it yourshyself Theres an old
saying about Piper products Made by farmers for farmers and its true The airplane is really easy to work on but the best thing you can do is make sure you get a good airplane in the first place
Cox has a number of pOints that he said every wannabe Comanche owner should satisfy before he or she buys a particular airplane Besides the normal over-all condition stuff that affects every airplane there are some specifics which include
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The CoxDavis Comanche has more than 200 hours on it now and its owners (or should they be called creators) say it does exactly what they wanted it to do It lets them go long distances in comfort and they have the peace of mind that comes from knowing everything within that airplane was done right
CHAMPION 7ED7FC Ownerpilot Mike Foote (VAA 365457) wrote to us concerning his terrific restoration IIManufactured by Champion Aircraft in 1959 N8539E began life as a Tri-Champ In 1983 it was convelted to a taidragshy
gerl but only 12 short flight hours later life changed dramatically for N8539E when it was severely damaged in a windstorm The ownerls initial impression was that it would never fly again The remains went through several owners each intent upon restorationl but finding the task a daunting onel each chose instead to pass it along to someone else with more ambition My tum came in July of1995 After 15 months ofintense restoration efforts N8539E became a plane again on October 261 1996 1 flew the plane from my home base in Olathel Kansas to Oshkosh in 1997 and had it judged in the Contemporary category My efforts were rewardedl as the Champion was selected as the Outstanding Champion aircraft for that year It is still going strong and is just as satisfying to fly today as it was for the first time II
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Chet Peek (VAA 13458) author of terrific books such as The First Cub and Resurrection ofa Jenny has gotshyten back into flying after losing his airplanes and Norman Oklahoma hangar during a tornado in 1998 Chefs bought Bruce Bixlers Taylorshycraft DC-65 This DC-65 is one of the rare early Taylorcraft Tandems which had aluminum spars and ribs A few in the same series became the first Taylorcraft L-2 liaison airplanes Chefs airplane is finished in the Civilian Training Programs colors of blue and yellow
20 SEPTEMBER 2001
September Mystery Plane
by HG Frautschy
This months Mystery Plane is a rare metal plane from the collection of Pete Bowers
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Plenty of you knew the June Mysshytery Plane surely one of those Don t you wish there was just one of th ese left kind of airplanes Heres our first letter
The Mystery Plane in the June 2001 edition of Vintage Airplane is an Ireshyland N-2 Neptune
Ireland N-2 Nep
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G Sumner Ireland had been an engineer for Curtiss up to 1926 He later formed Ireland Aircraft Inc at Curshytiss Field Garden City and marketed th e Ireland Comet Meteor Privateer and Neptune Th e N-2B Neptune (circa 1927) was a four-pla ce amphibian powshyered by a 300-hp Wright J-6 while the N-2C Nepshytun e was a fiv e-place amphibian with a 450-hp PampWWasp
Thomas H Lymburn Princeton Minnesota
And more on the various models of the Neptune
The June Mystery Plane is the Amshyphibians Incorporated Model N-2B or N-2C with either PampW Wa sp engine or the Wright Whirlwind 300 in the five- or six-place amphibian Modificashytions from the Ireland A ircraft Inc Model ND5-ND6 include strut covers and increased bow angle on the tip floats and an extended main hull float behind the step The three views are from the Aircraft Yearbook 3- View
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With Juptn ers U S Civil A ircraft this one didn t take long to idenshytify Vol 2 p ages 151-153 for ATC 153 des cribes th e Ireland Neptun e N-2B With enough clarity in th e photo to note the license as NC-88K its listed as L ____v
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and had a 300-hp Wright J-6 engine (affirmed by the long rocker-box eavshyers) (Abo ut this time some models were being upgraded with a 450 PampW Wasp for the model N-2C-ATC 248)
Ive always been very appreciative of Joe Juptners good coverage of all the ATCd US aircraft Over the years Ive been building scale models of more obshyscure aircraft as a hobby Ive drawn many of my plans from photos and dishymensions in US Civil Aircraft In fact I have a plan I drew for the Nepshytune N-2C though Ive not built it yet Thats why I recognized the June Mysshytery plane was a Neptune I lived in Ecuador for about 45 years and made most of the models of jungle hardshywoods in 1 32 scale
Bub Borman Dallas Texas
Junes Mystery Plane was easy It is Irelands Neptune NC-89K shown on page 143 of us Civil Aircraft Vol 3
by Juptner Both pictures were probably taken the same day Note the man at left in both pictures same suit hat and tie Note the taped wire or tube on left wing forward strut
Excuse this old typewriter Im 81 and darned ifIll get a new one now
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Albert B Aplin Chuluota Florida
Ju st a note to say I think the Jun e Mystery Plane is one of the Ireland Airshycraft Inc Neptune series
G Sumner Irelands ideas on flying boats pre-date this N-2C version by several years so the name was not new to aviation
Th e N-2C for the June issue was one of about nine built in late 1929 and the early 1930s
It was powered by a 450-hp Pratt amp Whitn ey Wasp and had a chromoly frame around which were bulkheads of duralumin to which were fastened
formers and then the outer aluminum skin
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Weve gotten plenty of comshyments about the article concerning bulging fabric While it wasnt part of my column originally many of you have addressed your comments to me so Ill check in on the freshyquency
Before we get to that Id like to update you on the status of our Champ airworthiness directive compliance It went fine as you may recall reading in my July colshyumn but a funny thing happened after flying a bit in the rain-the paint we sprayed over the patches has started to come off Dang Usshying MEK I thought Id completely removed the lemon-scented furnishyture polish I use regularly to clean the leading edges but I guess I was wrong The paint on the leading edges is beginning to peel HG and I wonder if they put any silishycone in the polish Doesnt say so on the can but maybe its a secret ingredient The peeling paint makes the new name (see photo on page 26) for the Champ even more accurate
Lets get on with the loose fabric discussion
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First loose fabric is a hazard for a couple of reasons Loose fabric can chafe against fairing strips and fasshyteners weakening it If a fabric edge is caught in the slipstream it can easily be torn away The results can be disastrous If it gets tangled up with a control surface it can even cause a loss of control and at the very least the loose wildly flapping fabric can be a huge distraction Heres what some others had to say I cant say I agree with everyones comments but it certainly is intershyesting to see how fabrics are being applied in shops around the world Heres our first note
You must have received a lot of comments about the Stinsons bulging fabric Ill give you my 2~ worth
Ive re-covered at least four during the past 45 years and dozens of reshycovering jobs on many types of aircraft Ive used cotton Irish linen Ceconite Razorback and Stits Im sticking with Ceconite 101 which [ like best I like the smell of dope beshysides all the other good features
When I tighten Ceconite I set my iron at 400degF to 450degF ] do the initial
tightening with a heat gun Then] work it with the iron evenly until] can feel the right tautness Thats just the right drumming sound and feel After the first coat ofprimer nishytrate dope there may be a few slack areas I then go over them again but never holding the iron in one place very long
Every Stinson I re-covered had screws on the four stringers on top of the fuselage from the windshield back about 3 or 4 feet spaced 3 or 4 inches apart ] just looked at three Stinsons on our flight line and they all have the screws
Don Macor Duluth Minnesota
Dons method might work well for him but Id hesitate to suggest it to anyone else In particular the use of a heat gun is prohibited in the Poly-Fiber and other process manuals that deal with the installashytion of Dacron fabric Uneven heat application is the reason it is disshycouraged Id also point out that the Cooper Superflight manual among others highlights the fact that Dacron fabric will start to m~lt
when heated above 450degF Thats why Don says he does not linger too long when shrinking the fabric with an iron set above 400degF
I just received my July issue of Vinshytage Airplane I always look forward to its arriva l That cover photo of the Stearman is beautiful Hats off to Jim Koepnick who does such a great job ofphotographing these old planes
I was drawn to the article on page 4 Is that Covering too Slack I have an uncovered Stinson 108-3 sitting in my garage so perhaps I can shed some light on some of the details about covshyering the Stinson 108 series In the article someone said Id be tempted to rib-stitch the fabric to the upper stringers on the fuselage Id suggest avoiding that temptation The Stinson used 4 PK screws to attach the fabric to the ribs and to the stringers above the fuselage I know because I have a coffee can with hundreds of these screws that I removed from my plane Above the fuselage there are four hatshysection aluminum stringers On my Stinson the fabric was attached to each of these stringers with 10 PK screws at 3-inch intervals beginning aft of the leading edge and running back just aft of the rear spar I believe thats how it was done originally I would not suggest rib-stitching beshycause the sharp edges of the hat-section stringers would cut the lacing And of course there is the matter of legality Rib-stitching would be a modification from the original construction certainly not appropriate in this situation
The photo on page 5 shows apparshyent ballooning of the fabric over the cabin area of the fuselage but theres more to this than meets the eye At the Stinson factory a blanket of fibershyglass insulation was installed above the cabin Old photos show this insushylation installed above the stringers I believe the fabric was then attached through the insulation to the stringers with the PK screws That puffy look above the cabin may be caused (at least in part) by the insulation Ive
We had a couple of folks ask if we could show a comparison shot highlighting loose fabric with the Stinson as an example In 1999 EAAs crack photo staff took air-to-air photos of a couple of Stinsons The top photo shows the fabric ballooning above the cabin In the lower photo the airplane restored by noted Stinson 108 rebuilder Butch Walsh of Arrington Virginia clearly shows the 4 PK (Parker-Kalon) screws that secure the fabric to the cabin roof stringers before the finishing tapes are applied
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discussion Im sure there are others out there who know more about this than I do Id enjoy hearing from anyshyone interes ted in Stinsons I have a website that I call Hangar 9 Aeroworks It features my project and other information on the 108-series Stinsons The URL is wwwhangar9 aeroworkscom
John Baker Damascus Maryland
Dip and HG were the first to agree with the members who wrote and called in to take them to ta sk for not confirming the exact method of attachment used by Stinson The intent of the original write-up was not to compos e a Stinson maintenance manual but to highlight the hazards inherent in any fabric job that is not propshyerly installed Our comments were meant to elicit a response from the membership in cluding expe rts like Butch Walsh Boy did they ever respond
Each of us is required to confirm the exact methods us ed by the manufacturer or subsequently apshyproved modifications and to scrupulously duplicate those methshyods The type certificate drawings and other information are often
seen Stinsons with the original type insulation that had the puffy look while sitting quietly on the ground
Dip Davis is correct that the Stinshyson did not originally cover the tanks on the 108s though Ive seen many restorations with the tanks covered There can be a bit of a problem with fabric tapes not adhering well to the perimeter of the tanks In fact I had a few tapes come loose once on a trip to EAA Chapter 643 s fl y-in at Pittstown New Jersey in 1993 A litshytle contact cem ent and some help from Chapter 643 got me back home okay Shortly after that I decided it was time for a complete re-cover job
Here s one more item about balshylooning fabric on the Stinson 108s that I learned from Stinson guru Butch Walsh The cabin fresh air intakes are on the leading edge of th e wing (as shown on page 17 of th e March issue of Vintage Airplane) Th ese vents feed into a chamber inside the inboard rib bay This chamber is not sealed very well so forced air spills out into the wing as well as into the cabin Taking care to seal this chamshyber can eliminate some problems with fabric on the inboard portion of th e wing and will provide more fresh air in the cabin
I hope this will contribute to the
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After we compiled with AD 2000shy25-02 the Champ looked a bit more shop-worn so we gave it a new name
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Dont blindly follow the lead of someone who may have restored the airplane in the past-they ma y have missed something that is required How many times have you seen a poorly placed inspection hole only to hear II But that was the way it was inshystalled on the airplane when I got it I Only the factory drawings and any supplemental type certifishy
cates (STC) or other approved modifications can change the aircrafts legal configushyration and the method of fabric installation is part of that configushyration
As both HG and I have pOinted out in the past the covering supshypliers have specific instructions on how their covering methods are to be installed Since covering with the Poly-Fiber Cooper Superflight Ai r-Tech or other processes were not included in the type certificate for the airplanes that we were dealshying with here an STC for their installation was obtained by the resp ective companies If their method is not followed you run the risk of having the covering job re jected by an IA (AampP with inshyspection authorization) mechanic andor the FAA for not conformshying to the STC If an STCd part is installed on an aircraft and the methods spelled out in the STC are not followed the aircraft is unshyairworthy Un-airworthy aircraft dont have very good resale values and besides you can t fly them And thats the point of all of this right Let s get out there do it right and fly safely
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WHAT OUR MEMBERS ARE RESTORING by HG Frautschy and Norm Petersen
AERONCA 7DC Sitting on the grass at Lee Bottom Airport near Louisville Kentucky Mark
and Wendie Paszkiewiczs (VAA 580997) 1946 Aeronca 7DC is ready for a flight in the warm hazy skies along the Ohio River First delivered as a 7 AC to a Phoenix Arizona flight school in 1946 with the installation of a Conshytinental 85-hp engine it became an Aeronca 7De Partially restored when they bought the project Mark and Wendie couldnt resist rebuilding some parts Now they fly the Champ around to local fly-ins and just have fun in it after work
CHAMPION 7GCB Posed in the afternoon sunshine of Sky
Harbor Airport in Duluth Minnesota is a beautiful 1962 Champion 7GCB N9912Y serial number 7GCB-133 mounted on an immaculate set of PKshy1800 floats Recently re-covered and painted by veteran mechanic Don Macor (VAA 28788) of Duluth Minnesota this particular aircraft is quite rare in that it has only 706 hours total time on airframe and engine has a factory original outside baggage compartment door and is one of only six 7GCBs remaining on the US Register In addition during its entire 39shyyear lifespan only one authorized inspectors name is in the aircraft logshybooks-Don Macor Don reports the airframe was in very good shape with only minor surface rust on a few places The covering is Ceconite 101 with bushytyrate dope in Daytona white Miami blue and black trim Note the seaplane auxiliary fins on the stabilizers necessary with the added mass of the floats ahead of the CG
Unusual to this model of 150 hp Champion is the outside baggage door on the right side of the fuselage seen here in the open position and ready for access to the baggage compartment
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because we removed the beacon It takes alshymost as long to patch the hole correctly as it does to replace the enshytire panel and then you dont have that ugly patch up there
The same thing held true for the cowlshying which they say is a weak point in a Coshymanche Building a new one consumed an enormous amount of time
Comanche control surfaces are reshyally thin mostly 016 and 020 so it doesnt take much to bend them up This airplane had apparently seen some hail that was heavy enough to dent the control surfaces but not the rest of the airplane so Greg said we re-skinned most of the control surfaces
Early in the project when the pair realized the airplane was going to take more than simply stripping and painting they decided on a specific goal We wanted to make it a truly modern airplane almost a new one so we could depend on it So we did everything but de-mate the wing We removed every single wire and sysshytem in the entire airplane and rebuilt every part of it according to Ronnie
When it came to the avionics Greg said it was really grungy It had Mark 12 radios in it and by the time we were done removing layers and layers of old wiring we took about SO pounds of wires out
Part of making it a modern airshyplane meant building reliability into everything ahead of the firewall We put a 260-hp exhaust system on it along with a lightweight starter new mags and most important we put a new fuel pump on it and had it flowshychecked Weve had some really tragic accidents in the Comanche community because the fuel pump was working but it wasnt putting out enough to feed the engine at takeoff power
According to the pair the landing
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gear is another area that needs careful examination because it wears out quickly We pulled every bushing and part of the gear and found that much of it was really sloppy This makes it hard to rig and contributes to gear collapses We dont know the history to our airplanes accident but that could have played a part
Naturally everything in the inteshyrior was replaced including a new panel with modern everything and they installed shoulder harnesses at the same time To keep their passenshygers happy they installed a small TV set with a VCR in the back seat They also installed a 14-inch thick big windshield and routed the edges down so it would fit flush into the original mounting channels
It took five years to get the airshyplane ready to fly and then it took another three months to get the pashyperwork completed We filed eight 337s and one field approval Because I do so many similar things with the corporate aircraft I just approached this one the same way Greg Davis said I filed them all through a DER (deSignated engineering representashytive) but rather than doing them locally I invited the FAA to come up and take a look at the airplane
They are obviously proud of the FAAs reaction to the way they apshyproached their project II After they came up the first time they brought another group of guys up to take a look at it They told us they wanted everyone in their office to see this beshy
cause this is the way they like to see an airshyplane and the supshyporting paperwork done Seems like theres a lesson for the rest of us in there somewhere
Ronnie Cox said The Comanche is a great airplane but like all airplanes if it needs extensive work it can be really expensive if you dont do it yourshyself Theres an old
saying about Piper products Made by farmers for farmers and its true The airplane is really easy to work on but the best thing you can do is make sure you get a good airplane in the first place
Cox has a number of pOints that he said every wannabe Comanche owner should satisfy before he or she buys a particular airplane Besides the normal over-all condition stuff that affects every airplane there are some specifics which include
bull AD list and compliance-Undershystand what airworthiness directives affect the airplane and make sure they were actually done
bull Gear condition-Look for cracked knuckles and measure as many internal dimensions as posshysible
bull Gear-up damage-Gear-up landshyings often crush the structure that the gear motor is attached to Make sure it was repaired properly
bull Flap track condition-The flap tracks wear and need to be carefully checked
bull Flap motor-The flap actuation system and especially the motor have to be checked for condition
The CoxDavis Comanche has more than 200 hours on it now and its owners (or should they be called creators) say it does exactly what they wanted it to do It lets them go long distances in comfort and they have the peace of mind that comes from knowing everything within that airplane was done right
CHAMPION 7ED7FC Ownerpilot Mike Foote (VAA 365457) wrote to us concerning his terrific restoration IIManufactured by Champion Aircraft in 1959 N8539E began life as a Tri-Champ In 1983 it was convelted to a taidragshy
gerl but only 12 short flight hours later life changed dramatically for N8539E when it was severely damaged in a windstorm The ownerls initial impression was that it would never fly again The remains went through several owners each intent upon restorationl but finding the task a daunting onel each chose instead to pass it along to someone else with more ambition My tum came in July of1995 After 15 months ofintense restoration efforts N8539E became a plane again on October 261 1996 1 flew the plane from my home base in Olathel Kansas to Oshkosh in 1997 and had it judged in the Contemporary category My efforts were rewardedl as the Champion was selected as the Outstanding Champion aircraft for that year It is still going strong and is just as satisfying to fly today as it was for the first time II
TAYLORCRAFf DC-65
Chet Peek (VAA 13458) author of terrific books such as The First Cub and Resurrection ofa Jenny has gotshyten back into flying after losing his airplanes and Norman Oklahoma hangar during a tornado in 1998 Chefs bought Bruce Bixlers Taylorshycraft DC-65 This DC-65 is one of the rare early Taylorcraft Tandems which had aluminum spars and ribs A few in the same series became the first Taylorcraft L-2 liaison airplanes Chefs airplane is finished in the Civilian Training Programs colors of blue and yellow
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September Mystery Plane
by HG Frautschy
This months Mystery Plane is a rare metal plane from the collection of Pete Bowers
Send your answer to EAA Vinshytage Airp lane PO Box 3086 Oshkosh WI 54903-3086 Your anshyswer needs to be in no later than October 15 for inclusion in the Deshycember issue of Vintage Airplane
You can also send your response via e-m ail Send your answer to vintageeaaorg
Be sure to include both your name and address (especially your city and state) in the body of your not e and put (Month) Mystery Plane in the subject line
Plenty of you knew the June Mysshytery Plane surely one of those Don t you wish there was just one of th ese left kind of airplanes Heres our first letter
The Mystery Plane in the June 2001 edition of Vintage Airplane is an Ireshyland N-2 Neptune
Ireland N-2 Nep
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G Sumner Ireland had been an engineer for Curtiss up to 1926 He later formed Ireland Aircraft Inc at Curshytiss Field Garden City and marketed th e Ireland Comet Meteor Privateer and Neptune Th e N-2B Neptune (circa 1927) was a four-pla ce amphibian powshyered by a 300-hp Wright J-6 while the N-2C Nepshytun e was a fiv e-place amphibian with a 450-hp PampWWasp
Thomas H Lymburn Princeton Minnesota
And more on the various models of the Neptune
The June Mystery Plane is the Amshyphibians Incorporated Model N-2B or N-2C with either PampW Wa sp engine or the Wright Whirlwind 300 in the five- or six-place amphibian Modificashytions from the Ireland A ircraft Inc Model ND5-ND6 include strut covers and increased bow angle on the tip floats and an extended main hull float behind the step The three views are from the Aircraft Yearbook 3- View
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Drawings 1903-1946 Russ Brown Lyndhurst Ohio
With Juptn ers U S Civil A ircraft this one didn t take long to idenshytify Vol 2 p ages 151-153 for ATC 153 des cribes th e Ireland Neptun e N-2B With enough clarity in th e photo to note the license as NC-88K its listed as L ____v
production number 43
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and had a 300-hp Wright J-6 engine (affirmed by the long rocker-box eavshyers) (Abo ut this time some models were being upgraded with a 450 PampW Wasp for the model N-2C-ATC 248)
Ive always been very appreciative of Joe Juptners good coverage of all the ATCd US aircraft Over the years Ive been building scale models of more obshyscure aircraft as a hobby Ive drawn many of my plans from photos and dishymensions in US Civil Aircraft In fact I have a plan I drew for the Nepshytune N-2C though Ive not built it yet Thats why I recognized the June Mysshytery plane was a Neptune I lived in Ecuador for about 45 years and made most of the models of jungle hardshywoods in 1 32 scale
Bub Borman Dallas Texas
Junes Mystery Plane was easy It is Irelands Neptune NC-89K shown on page 143 of us Civil Aircraft Vol 3
by Juptner Both pictures were probably taken the same day Note the man at left in both pictures same suit hat and tie Note the taped wire or tube on left wing forward strut
Excuse this old typewriter Im 81 and darned ifIll get a new one now
Good magazine good association good people Thanks
Albert B Aplin Chuluota Florida
Ju st a note to say I think the Jun e Mystery Plane is one of the Ireland Airshycraft Inc Neptune series
G Sumner Irelands ideas on flying boats pre-date this N-2C version by several years so the name was not new to aviation
Th e N-2C for the June issue was one of about nine built in late 1929 and the early 1930s
It was powered by a 450-hp Pratt amp Whitn ey Wasp and had a chromoly frame around which were bulkheads of duralumin to which were fastened
formers and then the outer aluminum skin
Hope this entry will serve to put me in the winners circle But then you always are when you join the V AA
John Kennelley Norwalk Iowa
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Feedback on Loose Fabric
Weve gotten plenty of comshyments about the article concerning bulging fabric While it wasnt part of my column originally many of you have addressed your comments to me so Ill check in on the freshyquency
Before we get to that Id like to update you on the status of our Champ airworthiness directive compliance It went fine as you may recall reading in my July colshyumn but a funny thing happened after flying a bit in the rain-the paint we sprayed over the patches has started to come off Dang Usshying MEK I thought Id completely removed the lemon-scented furnishyture polish I use regularly to clean the leading edges but I guess I was wrong The paint on the leading edges is beginning to peel HG and I wonder if they put any silishycone in the polish Doesnt say so on the can but maybe its a secret ingredient The peeling paint makes the new name (see photo on page 26) for the Champ even more accurate
Lets get on with the loose fabric discussion
24 SEPTEMBER 2001
First loose fabric is a hazard for a couple of reasons Loose fabric can chafe against fairing strips and fasshyteners weakening it If a fabric edge is caught in the slipstream it can easily be torn away The results can be disastrous If it gets tangled up with a control surface it can even cause a loss of control and at the very least the loose wildly flapping fabric can be a huge distraction Heres what some others had to say I cant say I agree with everyones comments but it certainly is intershyesting to see how fabrics are being applied in shops around the world Heres our first note
You must have received a lot of comments about the Stinsons bulging fabric Ill give you my 2~ worth
Ive re-covered at least four during the past 45 years and dozens of reshycovering jobs on many types of aircraft Ive used cotton Irish linen Ceconite Razorback and Stits Im sticking with Ceconite 101 which [ like best I like the smell of dope beshysides all the other good features
When I tighten Ceconite I set my iron at 400degF to 450degF ] do the initial
tightening with a heat gun Then] work it with the iron evenly until] can feel the right tautness Thats just the right drumming sound and feel After the first coat ofprimer nishytrate dope there may be a few slack areas I then go over them again but never holding the iron in one place very long
Every Stinson I re-covered had screws on the four stringers on top of the fuselage from the windshield back about 3 or 4 feet spaced 3 or 4 inches apart ] just looked at three Stinsons on our flight line and they all have the screws
Don Macor Duluth Minnesota
Dons method might work well for him but Id hesitate to suggest it to anyone else In particular the use of a heat gun is prohibited in the Poly-Fiber and other process manuals that deal with the installashytion of Dacron fabric Uneven heat application is the reason it is disshycouraged Id also point out that the Cooper Superflight manual among others highlights the fact that Dacron fabric will start to m~lt
when heated above 450degF Thats why Don says he does not linger too long when shrinking the fabric with an iron set above 400degF
I just received my July issue of Vinshytage Airplane I always look forward to its arriva l That cover photo of the Stearman is beautiful Hats off to Jim Koepnick who does such a great job ofphotographing these old planes
I was drawn to the article on page 4 Is that Covering too Slack I have an uncovered Stinson 108-3 sitting in my garage so perhaps I can shed some light on some of the details about covshyering the Stinson 108 series In the article someone said Id be tempted to rib-stitch the fabric to the upper stringers on the fuselage Id suggest avoiding that temptation The Stinson used 4 PK screws to attach the fabric to the ribs and to the stringers above the fuselage I know because I have a coffee can with hundreds of these screws that I removed from my plane Above the fuselage there are four hatshysection aluminum stringers On my Stinson the fabric was attached to each of these stringers with 10 PK screws at 3-inch intervals beginning aft of the leading edge and running back just aft of the rear spar I believe thats how it was done originally I would not suggest rib-stitching beshycause the sharp edges of the hat-section stringers would cut the lacing And of course there is the matter of legality Rib-stitching would be a modification from the original construction certainly not appropriate in this situation
The photo on page 5 shows apparshyent ballooning of the fabric over the cabin area of the fuselage but theres more to this than meets the eye At the Stinson factory a blanket of fibershyglass insulation was installed above the cabin Old photos show this insushylation installed above the stringers I believe the fabric was then attached through the insulation to the stringers with the PK screws That puffy look above the cabin may be caused (at least in part) by the insulation Ive
We had a couple of folks ask if we could show a comparison shot highlighting loose fabric with the Stinson as an example In 1999 EAAs crack photo staff took air-to-air photos of a couple of Stinsons The top photo shows the fabric ballooning above the cabin In the lower photo the airplane restored by noted Stinson 108 rebuilder Butch Walsh of Arrington Virginia clearly shows the 4 PK (Parker-Kalon) screws that secure the fabric to the cabin roof stringers before the finishing tapes are applied
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discussion Im sure there are others out there who know more about this than I do Id enjoy hearing from anyshyone interes ted in Stinsons I have a website that I call Hangar 9 Aeroworks It features my project and other information on the 108-series Stinsons The URL is wwwhangar9 aeroworkscom
John Baker Damascus Maryland
Dip and HG were the first to agree with the members who wrote and called in to take them to ta sk for not confirming the exact method of attachment used by Stinson The intent of the original write-up was not to compos e a Stinson maintenance manual but to highlight the hazards inherent in any fabric job that is not propshyerly installed Our comments were meant to elicit a response from the membership in cluding expe rts like Butch Walsh Boy did they ever respond
Each of us is required to confirm the exact methods us ed by the manufacturer or subsequently apshyproved modifications and to scrupulously duplicate those methshyods The type certificate drawings and other information are often
seen Stinsons with the original type insulation that had the puffy look while sitting quietly on the ground
Dip Davis is correct that the Stinshyson did not originally cover the tanks on the 108s though Ive seen many restorations with the tanks covered There can be a bit of a problem with fabric tapes not adhering well to the perimeter of the tanks In fact I had a few tapes come loose once on a trip to EAA Chapter 643 s fl y-in at Pittstown New Jersey in 1993 A litshytle contact cem ent and some help from Chapter 643 got me back home okay Shortly after that I decided it was time for a complete re-cover job
Here s one more item about balshylooning fabric on the Stinson 108s that I learned from Stinson guru Butch Walsh The cabin fresh air intakes are on the leading edge of th e wing (as shown on page 17 of th e March issue of Vintage Airplane) Th ese vents feed into a chamber inside the inboard rib bay This chamber is not sealed very well so forced air spills out into the wing as well as into the cabin Taking care to seal this chamshyber can eliminate some problems with fabric on the inboard portion of th e wing and will provide more fresh air in the cabin
I hope this will contribute to the
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After we compiled with AD 2000shy25-02 the Champ looked a bit more shop-worn so we gave it a new name
available from the type club for your particular model
Dont blindly follow the lead of someone who may have restored the airplane in the past-they ma y have missed something that is required How many times have you seen a poorly placed inspection hole only to hear II But that was the way it was inshystalled on the airplane when I got it I Only the factory drawings and any supplemental type certifishy
cates (STC) or other approved modifications can change the aircrafts legal configushyration and the method of fabric installation is part of that configushyration
As both HG and I have pOinted out in the past the covering supshypliers have specific instructions on how their covering methods are to be installed Since covering with the Poly-Fiber Cooper Superflight Ai r-Tech or other processes were not included in the type certificate for the airplanes that we were dealshying with here an STC for their installation was obtained by the resp ective companies If their method is not followed you run the risk of having the covering job re jected by an IA (AampP with inshyspection authorization) mechanic andor the FAA for not conformshying to the STC If an STCd part is installed on an aircraft and the methods spelled out in the STC are not followed the aircraft is unshyairworthy Un-airworthy aircraft dont have very good resale values and besides you can t fly them And thats the point of all of this right Let s get out there do it right and fly safely
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because we removed the beacon It takes alshymost as long to patch the hole correctly as it does to replace the enshytire panel and then you dont have that ugly patch up there
The same thing held true for the cowlshying which they say is a weak point in a Coshymanche Building a new one consumed an enormous amount of time
Comanche control surfaces are reshyally thin mostly 016 and 020 so it doesnt take much to bend them up This airplane had apparently seen some hail that was heavy enough to dent the control surfaces but not the rest of the airplane so Greg said we re-skinned most of the control surfaces
Early in the project when the pair realized the airplane was going to take more than simply stripping and painting they decided on a specific goal We wanted to make it a truly modern airplane almost a new one so we could depend on it So we did everything but de-mate the wing We removed every single wire and sysshytem in the entire airplane and rebuilt every part of it according to Ronnie
When it came to the avionics Greg said it was really grungy It had Mark 12 radios in it and by the time we were done removing layers and layers of old wiring we took about SO pounds of wires out
Part of making it a modern airshyplane meant building reliability into everything ahead of the firewall We put a 260-hp exhaust system on it along with a lightweight starter new mags and most important we put a new fuel pump on it and had it flowshychecked Weve had some really tragic accidents in the Comanche community because the fuel pump was working but it wasnt putting out enough to feed the engine at takeoff power
According to the pair the landing
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gear is another area that needs careful examination because it wears out quickly We pulled every bushing and part of the gear and found that much of it was really sloppy This makes it hard to rig and contributes to gear collapses We dont know the history to our airplanes accident but that could have played a part
Naturally everything in the inteshyrior was replaced including a new panel with modern everything and they installed shoulder harnesses at the same time To keep their passenshygers happy they installed a small TV set with a VCR in the back seat They also installed a 14-inch thick big windshield and routed the edges down so it would fit flush into the original mounting channels
It took five years to get the airshyplane ready to fly and then it took another three months to get the pashyperwork completed We filed eight 337s and one field approval Because I do so many similar things with the corporate aircraft I just approached this one the same way Greg Davis said I filed them all through a DER (deSignated engineering representashytive) but rather than doing them locally I invited the FAA to come up and take a look at the airplane
They are obviously proud of the FAAs reaction to the way they apshyproached their project II After they came up the first time they brought another group of guys up to take a look at it They told us they wanted everyone in their office to see this beshy
cause this is the way they like to see an airshyplane and the supshyporting paperwork done Seems like theres a lesson for the rest of us in there somewhere
Ronnie Cox said The Comanche is a great airplane but like all airplanes if it needs extensive work it can be really expensive if you dont do it yourshyself Theres an old
saying about Piper products Made by farmers for farmers and its true The airplane is really easy to work on but the best thing you can do is make sure you get a good airplane in the first place
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The CoxDavis Comanche has more than 200 hours on it now and its owners (or should they be called creators) say it does exactly what they wanted it to do It lets them go long distances in comfort and they have the peace of mind that comes from knowing everything within that airplane was done right
CHAMPION 7ED7FC Ownerpilot Mike Foote (VAA 365457) wrote to us concerning his terrific restoration IIManufactured by Champion Aircraft in 1959 N8539E began life as a Tri-Champ In 1983 it was convelted to a taidragshy
gerl but only 12 short flight hours later life changed dramatically for N8539E when it was severely damaged in a windstorm The ownerls initial impression was that it would never fly again The remains went through several owners each intent upon restorationl but finding the task a daunting onel each chose instead to pass it along to someone else with more ambition My tum came in July of1995 After 15 months ofintense restoration efforts N8539E became a plane again on October 261 1996 1 flew the plane from my home base in Olathel Kansas to Oshkosh in 1997 and had it judged in the Contemporary category My efforts were rewardedl as the Champion was selected as the Outstanding Champion aircraft for that year It is still going strong and is just as satisfying to fly today as it was for the first time II
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September Mystery Plane
by HG Frautschy
This months Mystery Plane is a rare metal plane from the collection of Pete Bowers
Send your answer to EAA Vinshytage Airp lane PO Box 3086 Oshkosh WI 54903-3086 Your anshyswer needs to be in no later than October 15 for inclusion in the Deshycember issue of Vintage Airplane
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Plenty of you knew the June Mysshytery Plane surely one of those Don t you wish there was just one of th ese left kind of airplanes Heres our first letter
The Mystery Plane in the June 2001 edition of Vintage Airplane is an Ireshyland N-2 Neptune
Ireland N-2 Nep
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G Sumner Ireland had been an engineer for Curtiss up to 1926 He later formed Ireland Aircraft Inc at Curshytiss Field Garden City and marketed th e Ireland Comet Meteor Privateer and Neptune Th e N-2B Neptune (circa 1927) was a four-pla ce amphibian powshyered by a 300-hp Wright J-6 while the N-2C Nepshytun e was a fiv e-place amphibian with a 450-hp PampWWasp
Thomas H Lymburn Princeton Minnesota
And more on the various models of the Neptune
The June Mystery Plane is the Amshyphibians Incorporated Model N-2B or N-2C with either PampW Wa sp engine or the Wright Whirlwind 300 in the five- or six-place amphibian Modificashytions from the Ireland A ircraft Inc Model ND5-ND6 include strut covers and increased bow angle on the tip floats and an extended main hull float behind the step The three views are from the Aircraft Yearbook 3- View
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With Juptn ers U S Civil A ircraft this one didn t take long to idenshytify Vol 2 p ages 151-153 for ATC 153 des cribes th e Ireland Neptun e N-2B With enough clarity in th e photo to note the license as NC-88K its listed as L ____v
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and had a 300-hp Wright J-6 engine (affirmed by the long rocker-box eavshyers) (Abo ut this time some models were being upgraded with a 450 PampW Wasp for the model N-2C-ATC 248)
Ive always been very appreciative of Joe Juptners good coverage of all the ATCd US aircraft Over the years Ive been building scale models of more obshyscure aircraft as a hobby Ive drawn many of my plans from photos and dishymensions in US Civil Aircraft In fact I have a plan I drew for the Nepshytune N-2C though Ive not built it yet Thats why I recognized the June Mysshytery plane was a Neptune I lived in Ecuador for about 45 years and made most of the models of jungle hardshywoods in 1 32 scale
Bub Borman Dallas Texas
Junes Mystery Plane was easy It is Irelands Neptune NC-89K shown on page 143 of us Civil Aircraft Vol 3
by Juptner Both pictures were probably taken the same day Note the man at left in both pictures same suit hat and tie Note the taped wire or tube on left wing forward strut
Excuse this old typewriter Im 81 and darned ifIll get a new one now
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Ju st a note to say I think the Jun e Mystery Plane is one of the Ireland Airshycraft Inc Neptune series
G Sumner Irelands ideas on flying boats pre-date this N-2C version by several years so the name was not new to aviation
Th e N-2C for the June issue was one of about nine built in late 1929 and the early 1930s
It was powered by a 450-hp Pratt amp Whitn ey Wasp and had a chromoly frame around which were bulkheads of duralumin to which were fastened
formers and then the outer aluminum skin
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Weve gotten plenty of comshyments about the article concerning bulging fabric While it wasnt part of my column originally many of you have addressed your comments to me so Ill check in on the freshyquency
Before we get to that Id like to update you on the status of our Champ airworthiness directive compliance It went fine as you may recall reading in my July colshyumn but a funny thing happened after flying a bit in the rain-the paint we sprayed over the patches has started to come off Dang Usshying MEK I thought Id completely removed the lemon-scented furnishyture polish I use regularly to clean the leading edges but I guess I was wrong The paint on the leading edges is beginning to peel HG and I wonder if they put any silishycone in the polish Doesnt say so on the can but maybe its a secret ingredient The peeling paint makes the new name (see photo on page 26) for the Champ even more accurate
Lets get on with the loose fabric discussion
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First loose fabric is a hazard for a couple of reasons Loose fabric can chafe against fairing strips and fasshyteners weakening it If a fabric edge is caught in the slipstream it can easily be torn away The results can be disastrous If it gets tangled up with a control surface it can even cause a loss of control and at the very least the loose wildly flapping fabric can be a huge distraction Heres what some others had to say I cant say I agree with everyones comments but it certainly is intershyesting to see how fabrics are being applied in shops around the world Heres our first note
You must have received a lot of comments about the Stinsons bulging fabric Ill give you my 2~ worth
Ive re-covered at least four during the past 45 years and dozens of reshycovering jobs on many types of aircraft Ive used cotton Irish linen Ceconite Razorback and Stits Im sticking with Ceconite 101 which [ like best I like the smell of dope beshysides all the other good features
When I tighten Ceconite I set my iron at 400degF to 450degF ] do the initial
tightening with a heat gun Then] work it with the iron evenly until] can feel the right tautness Thats just the right drumming sound and feel After the first coat ofprimer nishytrate dope there may be a few slack areas I then go over them again but never holding the iron in one place very long
Every Stinson I re-covered had screws on the four stringers on top of the fuselage from the windshield back about 3 or 4 feet spaced 3 or 4 inches apart ] just looked at three Stinsons on our flight line and they all have the screws
Don Macor Duluth Minnesota
Dons method might work well for him but Id hesitate to suggest it to anyone else In particular the use of a heat gun is prohibited in the Poly-Fiber and other process manuals that deal with the installashytion of Dacron fabric Uneven heat application is the reason it is disshycouraged Id also point out that the Cooper Superflight manual among others highlights the fact that Dacron fabric will start to m~lt
when heated above 450degF Thats why Don says he does not linger too long when shrinking the fabric with an iron set above 400degF
I just received my July issue of Vinshytage Airplane I always look forward to its arriva l That cover photo of the Stearman is beautiful Hats off to Jim Koepnick who does such a great job ofphotographing these old planes
I was drawn to the article on page 4 Is that Covering too Slack I have an uncovered Stinson 108-3 sitting in my garage so perhaps I can shed some light on some of the details about covshyering the Stinson 108 series In the article someone said Id be tempted to rib-stitch the fabric to the upper stringers on the fuselage Id suggest avoiding that temptation The Stinson used 4 PK screws to attach the fabric to the ribs and to the stringers above the fuselage I know because I have a coffee can with hundreds of these screws that I removed from my plane Above the fuselage there are four hatshysection aluminum stringers On my Stinson the fabric was attached to each of these stringers with 10 PK screws at 3-inch intervals beginning aft of the leading edge and running back just aft of the rear spar I believe thats how it was done originally I would not suggest rib-stitching beshycause the sharp edges of the hat-section stringers would cut the lacing And of course there is the matter of legality Rib-stitching would be a modification from the original construction certainly not appropriate in this situation
The photo on page 5 shows apparshyent ballooning of the fabric over the cabin area of the fuselage but theres more to this than meets the eye At the Stinson factory a blanket of fibershyglass insulation was installed above the cabin Old photos show this insushylation installed above the stringers I believe the fabric was then attached through the insulation to the stringers with the PK screws That puffy look above the cabin may be caused (at least in part) by the insulation Ive
We had a couple of folks ask if we could show a comparison shot highlighting loose fabric with the Stinson as an example In 1999 EAAs crack photo staff took air-to-air photos of a couple of Stinsons The top photo shows the fabric ballooning above the cabin In the lower photo the airplane restored by noted Stinson 108 rebuilder Butch Walsh of Arrington Virginia clearly shows the 4 PK (Parker-Kalon) screws that secure the fabric to the cabin roof stringers before the finishing tapes are applied
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discussion Im sure there are others out there who know more about this than I do Id enjoy hearing from anyshyone interes ted in Stinsons I have a website that I call Hangar 9 Aeroworks It features my project and other information on the 108-series Stinsons The URL is wwwhangar9 aeroworkscom
John Baker Damascus Maryland
Dip and HG were the first to agree with the members who wrote and called in to take them to ta sk for not confirming the exact method of attachment used by Stinson The intent of the original write-up was not to compos e a Stinson maintenance manual but to highlight the hazards inherent in any fabric job that is not propshyerly installed Our comments were meant to elicit a response from the membership in cluding expe rts like Butch Walsh Boy did they ever respond
Each of us is required to confirm the exact methods us ed by the manufacturer or subsequently apshyproved modifications and to scrupulously duplicate those methshyods The type certificate drawings and other information are often
seen Stinsons with the original type insulation that had the puffy look while sitting quietly on the ground
Dip Davis is correct that the Stinshyson did not originally cover the tanks on the 108s though Ive seen many restorations with the tanks covered There can be a bit of a problem with fabric tapes not adhering well to the perimeter of the tanks In fact I had a few tapes come loose once on a trip to EAA Chapter 643 s fl y-in at Pittstown New Jersey in 1993 A litshytle contact cem ent and some help from Chapter 643 got me back home okay Shortly after that I decided it was time for a complete re-cover job
Here s one more item about balshylooning fabric on the Stinson 108s that I learned from Stinson guru Butch Walsh The cabin fresh air intakes are on the leading edge of th e wing (as shown on page 17 of th e March issue of Vintage Airplane) Th ese vents feed into a chamber inside the inboard rib bay This chamber is not sealed very well so forced air spills out into the wing as well as into the cabin Taking care to seal this chamshyber can eliminate some problems with fabric on the inboard portion of th e wing and will provide more fresh air in the cabin
I hope this will contribute to the
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Dont blindly follow the lead of someone who may have restored the airplane in the past-they ma y have missed something that is required How many times have you seen a poorly placed inspection hole only to hear II But that was the way it was inshystalled on the airplane when I got it I Only the factory drawings and any supplemental type certifishy
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As both HG and I have pOinted out in the past the covering supshypliers have specific instructions on how their covering methods are to be installed Since covering with the Poly-Fiber Cooper Superflight Ai r-Tech or other processes were not included in the type certificate for the airplanes that we were dealshying with here an STC for their installation was obtained by the resp ective companies If their method is not followed you run the risk of having the covering job re jected by an IA (AampP with inshyspection authorization) mechanic andor the FAA for not conformshying to the STC If an STCd part is installed on an aircraft and the methods spelled out in the STC are not followed the aircraft is unshyairworthy Un-airworthy aircraft dont have very good resale values and besides you can t fly them And thats the point of all of this right Let s get out there do it right and fly safely
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CHAMPION 7ED7FC Ownerpilot Mike Foote (VAA 365457) wrote to us concerning his terrific restoration IIManufactured by Champion Aircraft in 1959 N8539E began life as a Tri-Champ In 1983 it was convelted to a taidragshy
gerl but only 12 short flight hours later life changed dramatically for N8539E when it was severely damaged in a windstorm The ownerls initial impression was that it would never fly again The remains went through several owners each intent upon restorationl but finding the task a daunting onel each chose instead to pass it along to someone else with more ambition My tum came in July of1995 After 15 months ofintense restoration efforts N8539E became a plane again on October 261 1996 1 flew the plane from my home base in Olathel Kansas to Oshkosh in 1997 and had it judged in the Contemporary category My efforts were rewardedl as the Champion was selected as the Outstanding Champion aircraft for that year It is still going strong and is just as satisfying to fly today as it was for the first time II
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Chet Peek (VAA 13458) author of terrific books such as The First Cub and Resurrection ofa Jenny has gotshyten back into flying after losing his airplanes and Norman Oklahoma hangar during a tornado in 1998 Chefs bought Bruce Bixlers Taylorshycraft DC-65 This DC-65 is one of the rare early Taylorcraft Tandems which had aluminum spars and ribs A few in the same series became the first Taylorcraft L-2 liaison airplanes Chefs airplane is finished in the Civilian Training Programs colors of blue and yellow
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September Mystery Plane
by HG Frautschy
This months Mystery Plane is a rare metal plane from the collection of Pete Bowers
Send your answer to EAA Vinshytage Airp lane PO Box 3086 Oshkosh WI 54903-3086 Your anshyswer needs to be in no later than October 15 for inclusion in the Deshycember issue of Vintage Airplane
You can also send your response via e-m ail Send your answer to vintageeaaorg
Be sure to include both your name and address (especially your city and state) in the body of your not e and put (Month) Mystery Plane in the subject line
Plenty of you knew the June Mysshytery Plane surely one of those Don t you wish there was just one of th ese left kind of airplanes Heres our first letter
The Mystery Plane in the June 2001 edition of Vintage Airplane is an Ireshyland N-2 Neptune
Ireland N-2 Nep
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G Sumner Ireland had been an engineer for Curtiss up to 1926 He later formed Ireland Aircraft Inc at Curshytiss Field Garden City and marketed th e Ireland Comet Meteor Privateer and Neptune Th e N-2B Neptune (circa 1927) was a four-pla ce amphibian powshyered by a 300-hp Wright J-6 while the N-2C Nepshytun e was a fiv e-place amphibian with a 450-hp PampWWasp
Thomas H Lymburn Princeton Minnesota
And more on the various models of the Neptune
The June Mystery Plane is the Amshyphibians Incorporated Model N-2B or N-2C with either PampW Wa sp engine or the Wright Whirlwind 300 in the five- or six-place amphibian Modificashytions from the Ireland A ircraft Inc Model ND5-ND6 include strut covers and increased bow angle on the tip floats and an extended main hull float behind the step The three views are from the Aircraft Yearbook 3- View
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Drawings 1903-1946 Russ Brown Lyndhurst Ohio
With Juptn ers U S Civil A ircraft this one didn t take long to idenshytify Vol 2 p ages 151-153 for ATC 153 des cribes th e Ireland Neptun e N-2B With enough clarity in th e photo to note the license as NC-88K its listed as L ____v
production number 43
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and had a 300-hp Wright J-6 engine (affirmed by the long rocker-box eavshyers) (Abo ut this time some models were being upgraded with a 450 PampW Wasp for the model N-2C-ATC 248)
Ive always been very appreciative of Joe Juptners good coverage of all the ATCd US aircraft Over the years Ive been building scale models of more obshyscure aircraft as a hobby Ive drawn many of my plans from photos and dishymensions in US Civil Aircraft In fact I have a plan I drew for the Nepshytune N-2C though Ive not built it yet Thats why I recognized the June Mysshytery plane was a Neptune I lived in Ecuador for about 45 years and made most of the models of jungle hardshywoods in 1 32 scale
Bub Borman Dallas Texas
Junes Mystery Plane was easy It is Irelands Neptune NC-89K shown on page 143 of us Civil Aircraft Vol 3
by Juptner Both pictures were probably taken the same day Note the man at left in both pictures same suit hat and tie Note the taped wire or tube on left wing forward strut
Excuse this old typewriter Im 81 and darned ifIll get a new one now
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Ju st a note to say I think the Jun e Mystery Plane is one of the Ireland Airshycraft Inc Neptune series
G Sumner Irelands ideas on flying boats pre-date this N-2C version by several years so the name was not new to aviation
Th e N-2C for the June issue was one of about nine built in late 1929 and the early 1930s
It was powered by a 450-hp Pratt amp Whitn ey Wasp and had a chromoly frame around which were bulkheads of duralumin to which were fastened
formers and then the outer aluminum skin
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Feedback on Loose Fabric
Weve gotten plenty of comshyments about the article concerning bulging fabric While it wasnt part of my column originally many of you have addressed your comments to me so Ill check in on the freshyquency
Before we get to that Id like to update you on the status of our Champ airworthiness directive compliance It went fine as you may recall reading in my July colshyumn but a funny thing happened after flying a bit in the rain-the paint we sprayed over the patches has started to come off Dang Usshying MEK I thought Id completely removed the lemon-scented furnishyture polish I use regularly to clean the leading edges but I guess I was wrong The paint on the leading edges is beginning to peel HG and I wonder if they put any silishycone in the polish Doesnt say so on the can but maybe its a secret ingredient The peeling paint makes the new name (see photo on page 26) for the Champ even more accurate
Lets get on with the loose fabric discussion
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First loose fabric is a hazard for a couple of reasons Loose fabric can chafe against fairing strips and fasshyteners weakening it If a fabric edge is caught in the slipstream it can easily be torn away The results can be disastrous If it gets tangled up with a control surface it can even cause a loss of control and at the very least the loose wildly flapping fabric can be a huge distraction Heres what some others had to say I cant say I agree with everyones comments but it certainly is intershyesting to see how fabrics are being applied in shops around the world Heres our first note
You must have received a lot of comments about the Stinsons bulging fabric Ill give you my 2~ worth
Ive re-covered at least four during the past 45 years and dozens of reshycovering jobs on many types of aircraft Ive used cotton Irish linen Ceconite Razorback and Stits Im sticking with Ceconite 101 which [ like best I like the smell of dope beshysides all the other good features
When I tighten Ceconite I set my iron at 400degF to 450degF ] do the initial
tightening with a heat gun Then] work it with the iron evenly until] can feel the right tautness Thats just the right drumming sound and feel After the first coat ofprimer nishytrate dope there may be a few slack areas I then go over them again but never holding the iron in one place very long
Every Stinson I re-covered had screws on the four stringers on top of the fuselage from the windshield back about 3 or 4 feet spaced 3 or 4 inches apart ] just looked at three Stinsons on our flight line and they all have the screws
Don Macor Duluth Minnesota
Dons method might work well for him but Id hesitate to suggest it to anyone else In particular the use of a heat gun is prohibited in the Poly-Fiber and other process manuals that deal with the installashytion of Dacron fabric Uneven heat application is the reason it is disshycouraged Id also point out that the Cooper Superflight manual among others highlights the fact that Dacron fabric will start to m~lt
when heated above 450degF Thats why Don says he does not linger too long when shrinking the fabric with an iron set above 400degF
I just received my July issue of Vinshytage Airplane I always look forward to its arriva l That cover photo of the Stearman is beautiful Hats off to Jim Koepnick who does such a great job ofphotographing these old planes
I was drawn to the article on page 4 Is that Covering too Slack I have an uncovered Stinson 108-3 sitting in my garage so perhaps I can shed some light on some of the details about covshyering the Stinson 108 series In the article someone said Id be tempted to rib-stitch the fabric to the upper stringers on the fuselage Id suggest avoiding that temptation The Stinson used 4 PK screws to attach the fabric to the ribs and to the stringers above the fuselage I know because I have a coffee can with hundreds of these screws that I removed from my plane Above the fuselage there are four hatshysection aluminum stringers On my Stinson the fabric was attached to each of these stringers with 10 PK screws at 3-inch intervals beginning aft of the leading edge and running back just aft of the rear spar I believe thats how it was done originally I would not suggest rib-stitching beshycause the sharp edges of the hat-section stringers would cut the lacing And of course there is the matter of legality Rib-stitching would be a modification from the original construction certainly not appropriate in this situation
The photo on page 5 shows apparshyent ballooning of the fabric over the cabin area of the fuselage but theres more to this than meets the eye At the Stinson factory a blanket of fibershyglass insulation was installed above the cabin Old photos show this insushylation installed above the stringers I believe the fabric was then attached through the insulation to the stringers with the PK screws That puffy look above the cabin may be caused (at least in part) by the insulation Ive
We had a couple of folks ask if we could show a comparison shot highlighting loose fabric with the Stinson as an example In 1999 EAAs crack photo staff took air-to-air photos of a couple of Stinsons The top photo shows the fabric ballooning above the cabin In the lower photo the airplane restored by noted Stinson 108 rebuilder Butch Walsh of Arrington Virginia clearly shows the 4 PK (Parker-Kalon) screws that secure the fabric to the cabin roof stringers before the finishing tapes are applied
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discussion Im sure there are others out there who know more about this than I do Id enjoy hearing from anyshyone interes ted in Stinsons I have a website that I call Hangar 9 Aeroworks It features my project and other information on the 108-series Stinsons The URL is wwwhangar9 aeroworkscom
John Baker Damascus Maryland
Dip and HG were the first to agree with the members who wrote and called in to take them to ta sk for not confirming the exact method of attachment used by Stinson The intent of the original write-up was not to compos e a Stinson maintenance manual but to highlight the hazards inherent in any fabric job that is not propshyerly installed Our comments were meant to elicit a response from the membership in cluding expe rts like Butch Walsh Boy did they ever respond
Each of us is required to confirm the exact methods us ed by the manufacturer or subsequently apshyproved modifications and to scrupulously duplicate those methshyods The type certificate drawings and other information are often
seen Stinsons with the original type insulation that had the puffy look while sitting quietly on the ground
Dip Davis is correct that the Stinshyson did not originally cover the tanks on the 108s though Ive seen many restorations with the tanks covered There can be a bit of a problem with fabric tapes not adhering well to the perimeter of the tanks In fact I had a few tapes come loose once on a trip to EAA Chapter 643 s fl y-in at Pittstown New Jersey in 1993 A litshytle contact cem ent and some help from Chapter 643 got me back home okay Shortly after that I decided it was time for a complete re-cover job
Here s one more item about balshylooning fabric on the Stinson 108s that I learned from Stinson guru Butch Walsh The cabin fresh air intakes are on the leading edge of th e wing (as shown on page 17 of th e March issue of Vintage Airplane) Th ese vents feed into a chamber inside the inboard rib bay This chamber is not sealed very well so forced air spills out into the wing as well as into the cabin Taking care to seal this chamshyber can eliminate some problems with fabric on the inboard portion of th e wing and will provide more fresh air in the cabin
I hope this will contribute to the
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After we compiled with AD 2000shy25-02 the Champ looked a bit more shop-worn so we gave it a new name
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Dont blindly follow the lead of someone who may have restored the airplane in the past-they ma y have missed something that is required How many times have you seen a poorly placed inspection hole only to hear II But that was the way it was inshystalled on the airplane when I got it I Only the factory drawings and any supplemental type certifishy
cates (STC) or other approved modifications can change the aircrafts legal configushyration and the method of fabric installation is part of that configushyration
As both HG and I have pOinted out in the past the covering supshypliers have specific instructions on how their covering methods are to be installed Since covering with the Poly-Fiber Cooper Superflight Ai r-Tech or other processes were not included in the type certificate for the airplanes that we were dealshying with here an STC for their installation was obtained by the resp ective companies If their method is not followed you run the risk of having the covering job re jected by an IA (AampP with inshyspection authorization) mechanic andor the FAA for not conformshying to the STC If an STCd part is installed on an aircraft and the methods spelled out in the STC are not followed the aircraft is unshyairworthy Un-airworthy aircraft dont have very good resale values and besides you can t fly them And thats the point of all of this right Let s get out there do it right and fly safely
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This months Mystery Plane is a rare metal plane from the collection of Pete Bowers
Send your answer to EAA Vinshytage Airp lane PO Box 3086 Oshkosh WI 54903-3086 Your anshyswer needs to be in no later than October 15 for inclusion in the Deshycember issue of Vintage Airplane
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Be sure to include both your name and address (especially your city and state) in the body of your not e and put (Month) Mystery Plane in the subject line
Plenty of you knew the June Mysshytery Plane surely one of those Don t you wish there was just one of th ese left kind of airplanes Heres our first letter
The Mystery Plane in the June 2001 edition of Vintage Airplane is an Ireshyland N-2 Neptune
Ireland N-2 Nep
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G Sumner Ireland had been an engineer for Curtiss up to 1926 He later formed Ireland Aircraft Inc at Curshytiss Field Garden City and marketed th e Ireland Comet Meteor Privateer and Neptune Th e N-2B Neptune (circa 1927) was a four-pla ce amphibian powshyered by a 300-hp Wright J-6 while the N-2C Nepshytun e was a fiv e-place amphibian with a 450-hp PampWWasp
Thomas H Lymburn Princeton Minnesota
And more on the various models of the Neptune
The June Mystery Plane is the Amshyphibians Incorporated Model N-2B or N-2C with either PampW Wa sp engine or the Wright Whirlwind 300 in the five- or six-place amphibian Modificashytions from the Ireland A ircraft Inc Model ND5-ND6 include strut covers and increased bow angle on the tip floats and an extended main hull float behind the step The three views are from the Aircraft Yearbook 3- View
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Drawings 1903-1946 Russ Brown Lyndhurst Ohio
With Juptn ers U S Civil A ircraft this one didn t take long to idenshytify Vol 2 p ages 151-153 for ATC 153 des cribes th e Ireland Neptun e N-2B With enough clarity in th e photo to note the license as NC-88K its listed as L ____v
production number 43
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and had a 300-hp Wright J-6 engine (affirmed by the long rocker-box eavshyers) (Abo ut this time some models were being upgraded with a 450 PampW Wasp for the model N-2C-ATC 248)
Ive always been very appreciative of Joe Juptners good coverage of all the ATCd US aircraft Over the years Ive been building scale models of more obshyscure aircraft as a hobby Ive drawn many of my plans from photos and dishymensions in US Civil Aircraft In fact I have a plan I drew for the Nepshytune N-2C though Ive not built it yet Thats why I recognized the June Mysshytery plane was a Neptune I lived in Ecuador for about 45 years and made most of the models of jungle hardshywoods in 1 32 scale
Bub Borman Dallas Texas
Junes Mystery Plane was easy It is Irelands Neptune NC-89K shown on page 143 of us Civil Aircraft Vol 3
by Juptner Both pictures were probably taken the same day Note the man at left in both pictures same suit hat and tie Note the taped wire or tube on left wing forward strut
Excuse this old typewriter Im 81 and darned ifIll get a new one now
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Ju st a note to say I think the Jun e Mystery Plane is one of the Ireland Airshycraft Inc Neptune series
G Sumner Irelands ideas on flying boats pre-date this N-2C version by several years so the name was not new to aviation
Th e N-2C for the June issue was one of about nine built in late 1929 and the early 1930s
It was powered by a 450-hp Pratt amp Whitn ey Wasp and had a chromoly frame around which were bulkheads of duralumin to which were fastened
formers and then the outer aluminum skin
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Feedback on Loose Fabric
Weve gotten plenty of comshyments about the article concerning bulging fabric While it wasnt part of my column originally many of you have addressed your comments to me so Ill check in on the freshyquency
Before we get to that Id like to update you on the status of our Champ airworthiness directive compliance It went fine as you may recall reading in my July colshyumn but a funny thing happened after flying a bit in the rain-the paint we sprayed over the patches has started to come off Dang Usshying MEK I thought Id completely removed the lemon-scented furnishyture polish I use regularly to clean the leading edges but I guess I was wrong The paint on the leading edges is beginning to peel HG and I wonder if they put any silishycone in the polish Doesnt say so on the can but maybe its a secret ingredient The peeling paint makes the new name (see photo on page 26) for the Champ even more accurate
Lets get on with the loose fabric discussion
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First loose fabric is a hazard for a couple of reasons Loose fabric can chafe against fairing strips and fasshyteners weakening it If a fabric edge is caught in the slipstream it can easily be torn away The results can be disastrous If it gets tangled up with a control surface it can even cause a loss of control and at the very least the loose wildly flapping fabric can be a huge distraction Heres what some others had to say I cant say I agree with everyones comments but it certainly is intershyesting to see how fabrics are being applied in shops around the world Heres our first note
You must have received a lot of comments about the Stinsons bulging fabric Ill give you my 2~ worth
Ive re-covered at least four during the past 45 years and dozens of reshycovering jobs on many types of aircraft Ive used cotton Irish linen Ceconite Razorback and Stits Im sticking with Ceconite 101 which [ like best I like the smell of dope beshysides all the other good features
When I tighten Ceconite I set my iron at 400degF to 450degF ] do the initial
tightening with a heat gun Then] work it with the iron evenly until] can feel the right tautness Thats just the right drumming sound and feel After the first coat ofprimer nishytrate dope there may be a few slack areas I then go over them again but never holding the iron in one place very long
Every Stinson I re-covered had screws on the four stringers on top of the fuselage from the windshield back about 3 or 4 feet spaced 3 or 4 inches apart ] just looked at three Stinsons on our flight line and they all have the screws
Don Macor Duluth Minnesota
Dons method might work well for him but Id hesitate to suggest it to anyone else In particular the use of a heat gun is prohibited in the Poly-Fiber and other process manuals that deal with the installashytion of Dacron fabric Uneven heat application is the reason it is disshycouraged Id also point out that the Cooper Superflight manual among others highlights the fact that Dacron fabric will start to m~lt
when heated above 450degF Thats why Don says he does not linger too long when shrinking the fabric with an iron set above 400degF
I just received my July issue of Vinshytage Airplane I always look forward to its arriva l That cover photo of the Stearman is beautiful Hats off to Jim Koepnick who does such a great job ofphotographing these old planes
I was drawn to the article on page 4 Is that Covering too Slack I have an uncovered Stinson 108-3 sitting in my garage so perhaps I can shed some light on some of the details about covshyering the Stinson 108 series In the article someone said Id be tempted to rib-stitch the fabric to the upper stringers on the fuselage Id suggest avoiding that temptation The Stinson used 4 PK screws to attach the fabric to the ribs and to the stringers above the fuselage I know because I have a coffee can with hundreds of these screws that I removed from my plane Above the fuselage there are four hatshysection aluminum stringers On my Stinson the fabric was attached to each of these stringers with 10 PK screws at 3-inch intervals beginning aft of the leading edge and running back just aft of the rear spar I believe thats how it was done originally I would not suggest rib-stitching beshycause the sharp edges of the hat-section stringers would cut the lacing And of course there is the matter of legality Rib-stitching would be a modification from the original construction certainly not appropriate in this situation
The photo on page 5 shows apparshyent ballooning of the fabric over the cabin area of the fuselage but theres more to this than meets the eye At the Stinson factory a blanket of fibershyglass insulation was installed above the cabin Old photos show this insushylation installed above the stringers I believe the fabric was then attached through the insulation to the stringers with the PK screws That puffy look above the cabin may be caused (at least in part) by the insulation Ive
We had a couple of folks ask if we could show a comparison shot highlighting loose fabric with the Stinson as an example In 1999 EAAs crack photo staff took air-to-air photos of a couple of Stinsons The top photo shows the fabric ballooning above the cabin In the lower photo the airplane restored by noted Stinson 108 rebuilder Butch Walsh of Arrington Virginia clearly shows the 4 PK (Parker-Kalon) screws that secure the fabric to the cabin roof stringers before the finishing tapes are applied
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discussion Im sure there are others out there who know more about this than I do Id enjoy hearing from anyshyone interes ted in Stinsons I have a website that I call Hangar 9 Aeroworks It features my project and other information on the 108-series Stinsons The URL is wwwhangar9 aeroworkscom
John Baker Damascus Maryland
Dip and HG were the first to agree with the members who wrote and called in to take them to ta sk for not confirming the exact method of attachment used by Stinson The intent of the original write-up was not to compos e a Stinson maintenance manual but to highlight the hazards inherent in any fabric job that is not propshyerly installed Our comments were meant to elicit a response from the membership in cluding expe rts like Butch Walsh Boy did they ever respond
Each of us is required to confirm the exact methods us ed by the manufacturer or subsequently apshyproved modifications and to scrupulously duplicate those methshyods The type certificate drawings and other information are often
seen Stinsons with the original type insulation that had the puffy look while sitting quietly on the ground
Dip Davis is correct that the Stinshyson did not originally cover the tanks on the 108s though Ive seen many restorations with the tanks covered There can be a bit of a problem with fabric tapes not adhering well to the perimeter of the tanks In fact I had a few tapes come loose once on a trip to EAA Chapter 643 s fl y-in at Pittstown New Jersey in 1993 A litshytle contact cem ent and some help from Chapter 643 got me back home okay Shortly after that I decided it was time for a complete re-cover job
Here s one more item about balshylooning fabric on the Stinson 108s that I learned from Stinson guru Butch Walsh The cabin fresh air intakes are on the leading edge of th e wing (as shown on page 17 of th e March issue of Vintage Airplane) Th ese vents feed into a chamber inside the inboard rib bay This chamber is not sealed very well so forced air spills out into the wing as well as into the cabin Taking care to seal this chamshyber can eliminate some problems with fabric on the inboard portion of th e wing and will provide more fresh air in the cabin
I hope this will contribute to the
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After we compiled with AD 2000shy25-02 the Champ looked a bit more shop-worn so we gave it a new name
available from the type club for your particular model
Dont blindly follow the lead of someone who may have restored the airplane in the past-they ma y have missed something that is required How many times have you seen a poorly placed inspection hole only to hear II But that was the way it was inshystalled on the airplane when I got it I Only the factory drawings and any supplemental type certifishy
cates (STC) or other approved modifications can change the aircrafts legal configushyration and the method of fabric installation is part of that configushyration
As both HG and I have pOinted out in the past the covering supshypliers have specific instructions on how their covering methods are to be installed Since covering with the Poly-Fiber Cooper Superflight Ai r-Tech or other processes were not included in the type certificate for the airplanes that we were dealshying with here an STC for their installation was obtained by the resp ective companies If their method is not followed you run the risk of having the covering job re jected by an IA (AampP with inshyspection authorization) mechanic andor the FAA for not conformshying to the STC If an STCd part is installed on an aircraft and the methods spelled out in the STC are not followed the aircraft is unshyairworthy Un-airworthy aircraft dont have very good resale values and besides you can t fly them And thats the point of all of this right Let s get out there do it right and fly safely
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G Sumner Ireland had been an engineer for Curtiss up to 1926 He later formed Ireland Aircraft Inc at Curshytiss Field Garden City and marketed th e Ireland Comet Meteor Privateer and Neptune Th e N-2B Neptune (circa 1927) was a four-pla ce amphibian powshyered by a 300-hp Wright J-6 while the N-2C Nepshytun e was a fiv e-place amphibian with a 450-hp PampWWasp
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With Juptn ers U S Civil A ircraft this one didn t take long to idenshytify Vol 2 p ages 151-153 for ATC 153 des cribes th e Ireland Neptun e N-2B With enough clarity in th e photo to note the license as NC-88K its listed as L ____v
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and had a 300-hp Wright J-6 engine (affirmed by the long rocker-box eavshyers) (Abo ut this time some models were being upgraded with a 450 PampW Wasp for the model N-2C-ATC 248)
Ive always been very appreciative of Joe Juptners good coverage of all the ATCd US aircraft Over the years Ive been building scale models of more obshyscure aircraft as a hobby Ive drawn many of my plans from photos and dishymensions in US Civil Aircraft In fact I have a plan I drew for the Nepshytune N-2C though Ive not built it yet Thats why I recognized the June Mysshytery plane was a Neptune I lived in Ecuador for about 45 years and made most of the models of jungle hardshywoods in 1 32 scale
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Junes Mystery Plane was easy It is Irelands Neptune NC-89K shown on page 143 of us Civil Aircraft Vol 3
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Ju st a note to say I think the Jun e Mystery Plane is one of the Ireland Airshycraft Inc Neptune series
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Weve gotten plenty of comshyments about the article concerning bulging fabric While it wasnt part of my column originally many of you have addressed your comments to me so Ill check in on the freshyquency
Before we get to that Id like to update you on the status of our Champ airworthiness directive compliance It went fine as you may recall reading in my July colshyumn but a funny thing happened after flying a bit in the rain-the paint we sprayed over the patches has started to come off Dang Usshying MEK I thought Id completely removed the lemon-scented furnishyture polish I use regularly to clean the leading edges but I guess I was wrong The paint on the leading edges is beginning to peel HG and I wonder if they put any silishycone in the polish Doesnt say so on the can but maybe its a secret ingredient The peeling paint makes the new name (see photo on page 26) for the Champ even more accurate
Lets get on with the loose fabric discussion
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First loose fabric is a hazard for a couple of reasons Loose fabric can chafe against fairing strips and fasshyteners weakening it If a fabric edge is caught in the slipstream it can easily be torn away The results can be disastrous If it gets tangled up with a control surface it can even cause a loss of control and at the very least the loose wildly flapping fabric can be a huge distraction Heres what some others had to say I cant say I agree with everyones comments but it certainly is intershyesting to see how fabrics are being applied in shops around the world Heres our first note
You must have received a lot of comments about the Stinsons bulging fabric Ill give you my 2~ worth
Ive re-covered at least four during the past 45 years and dozens of reshycovering jobs on many types of aircraft Ive used cotton Irish linen Ceconite Razorback and Stits Im sticking with Ceconite 101 which [ like best I like the smell of dope beshysides all the other good features
When I tighten Ceconite I set my iron at 400degF to 450degF ] do the initial
tightening with a heat gun Then] work it with the iron evenly until] can feel the right tautness Thats just the right drumming sound and feel After the first coat ofprimer nishytrate dope there may be a few slack areas I then go over them again but never holding the iron in one place very long
Every Stinson I re-covered had screws on the four stringers on top of the fuselage from the windshield back about 3 or 4 feet spaced 3 or 4 inches apart ] just looked at three Stinsons on our flight line and they all have the screws
Don Macor Duluth Minnesota
Dons method might work well for him but Id hesitate to suggest it to anyone else In particular the use of a heat gun is prohibited in the Poly-Fiber and other process manuals that deal with the installashytion of Dacron fabric Uneven heat application is the reason it is disshycouraged Id also point out that the Cooper Superflight manual among others highlights the fact that Dacron fabric will start to m~lt
when heated above 450degF Thats why Don says he does not linger too long when shrinking the fabric with an iron set above 400degF
I just received my July issue of Vinshytage Airplane I always look forward to its arriva l That cover photo of the Stearman is beautiful Hats off to Jim Koepnick who does such a great job ofphotographing these old planes
I was drawn to the article on page 4 Is that Covering too Slack I have an uncovered Stinson 108-3 sitting in my garage so perhaps I can shed some light on some of the details about covshyering the Stinson 108 series In the article someone said Id be tempted to rib-stitch the fabric to the upper stringers on the fuselage Id suggest avoiding that temptation The Stinson used 4 PK screws to attach the fabric to the ribs and to the stringers above the fuselage I know because I have a coffee can with hundreds of these screws that I removed from my plane Above the fuselage there are four hatshysection aluminum stringers On my Stinson the fabric was attached to each of these stringers with 10 PK screws at 3-inch intervals beginning aft of the leading edge and running back just aft of the rear spar I believe thats how it was done originally I would not suggest rib-stitching beshycause the sharp edges of the hat-section stringers would cut the lacing And of course there is the matter of legality Rib-stitching would be a modification from the original construction certainly not appropriate in this situation
The photo on page 5 shows apparshyent ballooning of the fabric over the cabin area of the fuselage but theres more to this than meets the eye At the Stinson factory a blanket of fibershyglass insulation was installed above the cabin Old photos show this insushylation installed above the stringers I believe the fabric was then attached through the insulation to the stringers with the PK screws That puffy look above the cabin may be caused (at least in part) by the insulation Ive
We had a couple of folks ask if we could show a comparison shot highlighting loose fabric with the Stinson as an example In 1999 EAAs crack photo staff took air-to-air photos of a couple of Stinsons The top photo shows the fabric ballooning above the cabin In the lower photo the airplane restored by noted Stinson 108 rebuilder Butch Walsh of Arrington Virginia clearly shows the 4 PK (Parker-Kalon) screws that secure the fabric to the cabin roof stringers before the finishing tapes are applied
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discussion Im sure there are others out there who know more about this than I do Id enjoy hearing from anyshyone interes ted in Stinsons I have a website that I call Hangar 9 Aeroworks It features my project and other information on the 108-series Stinsons The URL is wwwhangar9 aeroworkscom
John Baker Damascus Maryland
Dip and HG were the first to agree with the members who wrote and called in to take them to ta sk for not confirming the exact method of attachment used by Stinson The intent of the original write-up was not to compos e a Stinson maintenance manual but to highlight the hazards inherent in any fabric job that is not propshyerly installed Our comments were meant to elicit a response from the membership in cluding expe rts like Butch Walsh Boy did they ever respond
Each of us is required to confirm the exact methods us ed by the manufacturer or subsequently apshyproved modifications and to scrupulously duplicate those methshyods The type certificate drawings and other information are often
seen Stinsons with the original type insulation that had the puffy look while sitting quietly on the ground
Dip Davis is correct that the Stinshyson did not originally cover the tanks on the 108s though Ive seen many restorations with the tanks covered There can be a bit of a problem with fabric tapes not adhering well to the perimeter of the tanks In fact I had a few tapes come loose once on a trip to EAA Chapter 643 s fl y-in at Pittstown New Jersey in 1993 A litshytle contact cem ent and some help from Chapter 643 got me back home okay Shortly after that I decided it was time for a complete re-cover job
Here s one more item about balshylooning fabric on the Stinson 108s that I learned from Stinson guru Butch Walsh The cabin fresh air intakes are on the leading edge of th e wing (as shown on page 17 of th e March issue of Vintage Airplane) Th ese vents feed into a chamber inside the inboard rib bay This chamber is not sealed very well so forced air spills out into the wing as well as into the cabin Taking care to seal this chamshyber can eliminate some problems with fabric on the inboard portion of th e wing and will provide more fresh air in the cabin
I hope this will contribute to the
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After we compiled with AD 2000shy25-02 the Champ looked a bit more shop-worn so we gave it a new name
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Dont blindly follow the lead of someone who may have restored the airplane in the past-they ma y have missed something that is required How many times have you seen a poorly placed inspection hole only to hear II But that was the way it was inshystalled on the airplane when I got it I Only the factory drawings and any supplemental type certifishy
cates (STC) or other approved modifications can change the aircrafts legal configushyration and the method of fabric installation is part of that configushyration
As both HG and I have pOinted out in the past the covering supshypliers have specific instructions on how their covering methods are to be installed Since covering with the Poly-Fiber Cooper Superflight Ai r-Tech or other processes were not included in the type certificate for the airplanes that we were dealshying with here an STC for their installation was obtained by the resp ective companies If their method is not followed you run the risk of having the covering job re jected by an IA (AampP with inshyspection authorization) mechanic andor the FAA for not conformshying to the STC If an STCd part is installed on an aircraft and the methods spelled out in the STC are not followed the aircraft is unshyairworthy Un-airworthy aircraft dont have very good resale values and besides you can t fly them And thats the point of all of this right Let s get out there do it right and fly safely
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Junes Mystery Plane was easy It is Irelands Neptune NC-89K shown on page 143 of us Civil Aircraft Vol 3
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Weve gotten plenty of comshyments about the article concerning bulging fabric While it wasnt part of my column originally many of you have addressed your comments to me so Ill check in on the freshyquency
Before we get to that Id like to update you on the status of our Champ airworthiness directive compliance It went fine as you may recall reading in my July colshyumn but a funny thing happened after flying a bit in the rain-the paint we sprayed over the patches has started to come off Dang Usshying MEK I thought Id completely removed the lemon-scented furnishyture polish I use regularly to clean the leading edges but I guess I was wrong The paint on the leading edges is beginning to peel HG and I wonder if they put any silishycone in the polish Doesnt say so on the can but maybe its a secret ingredient The peeling paint makes the new name (see photo on page 26) for the Champ even more accurate
Lets get on with the loose fabric discussion
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First loose fabric is a hazard for a couple of reasons Loose fabric can chafe against fairing strips and fasshyteners weakening it If a fabric edge is caught in the slipstream it can easily be torn away The results can be disastrous If it gets tangled up with a control surface it can even cause a loss of control and at the very least the loose wildly flapping fabric can be a huge distraction Heres what some others had to say I cant say I agree with everyones comments but it certainly is intershyesting to see how fabrics are being applied in shops around the world Heres our first note
You must have received a lot of comments about the Stinsons bulging fabric Ill give you my 2~ worth
Ive re-covered at least four during the past 45 years and dozens of reshycovering jobs on many types of aircraft Ive used cotton Irish linen Ceconite Razorback and Stits Im sticking with Ceconite 101 which [ like best I like the smell of dope beshysides all the other good features
When I tighten Ceconite I set my iron at 400degF to 450degF ] do the initial
tightening with a heat gun Then] work it with the iron evenly until] can feel the right tautness Thats just the right drumming sound and feel After the first coat ofprimer nishytrate dope there may be a few slack areas I then go over them again but never holding the iron in one place very long
Every Stinson I re-covered had screws on the four stringers on top of the fuselage from the windshield back about 3 or 4 feet spaced 3 or 4 inches apart ] just looked at three Stinsons on our flight line and they all have the screws
Don Macor Duluth Minnesota
Dons method might work well for him but Id hesitate to suggest it to anyone else In particular the use of a heat gun is prohibited in the Poly-Fiber and other process manuals that deal with the installashytion of Dacron fabric Uneven heat application is the reason it is disshycouraged Id also point out that the Cooper Superflight manual among others highlights the fact that Dacron fabric will start to m~lt
when heated above 450degF Thats why Don says he does not linger too long when shrinking the fabric with an iron set above 400degF
I just received my July issue of Vinshytage Airplane I always look forward to its arriva l That cover photo of the Stearman is beautiful Hats off to Jim Koepnick who does such a great job ofphotographing these old planes
I was drawn to the article on page 4 Is that Covering too Slack I have an uncovered Stinson 108-3 sitting in my garage so perhaps I can shed some light on some of the details about covshyering the Stinson 108 series In the article someone said Id be tempted to rib-stitch the fabric to the upper stringers on the fuselage Id suggest avoiding that temptation The Stinson used 4 PK screws to attach the fabric to the ribs and to the stringers above the fuselage I know because I have a coffee can with hundreds of these screws that I removed from my plane Above the fuselage there are four hatshysection aluminum stringers On my Stinson the fabric was attached to each of these stringers with 10 PK screws at 3-inch intervals beginning aft of the leading edge and running back just aft of the rear spar I believe thats how it was done originally I would not suggest rib-stitching beshycause the sharp edges of the hat-section stringers would cut the lacing And of course there is the matter of legality Rib-stitching would be a modification from the original construction certainly not appropriate in this situation
The photo on page 5 shows apparshyent ballooning of the fabric over the cabin area of the fuselage but theres more to this than meets the eye At the Stinson factory a blanket of fibershyglass insulation was installed above the cabin Old photos show this insushylation installed above the stringers I believe the fabric was then attached through the insulation to the stringers with the PK screws That puffy look above the cabin may be caused (at least in part) by the insulation Ive
We had a couple of folks ask if we could show a comparison shot highlighting loose fabric with the Stinson as an example In 1999 EAAs crack photo staff took air-to-air photos of a couple of Stinsons The top photo shows the fabric ballooning above the cabin In the lower photo the airplane restored by noted Stinson 108 rebuilder Butch Walsh of Arrington Virginia clearly shows the 4 PK (Parker-Kalon) screws that secure the fabric to the cabin roof stringers before the finishing tapes are applied
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discussion Im sure there are others out there who know more about this than I do Id enjoy hearing from anyshyone interes ted in Stinsons I have a website that I call Hangar 9 Aeroworks It features my project and other information on the 108-series Stinsons The URL is wwwhangar9 aeroworkscom
John Baker Damascus Maryland
Dip and HG were the first to agree with the members who wrote and called in to take them to ta sk for not confirming the exact method of attachment used by Stinson The intent of the original write-up was not to compos e a Stinson maintenance manual but to highlight the hazards inherent in any fabric job that is not propshyerly installed Our comments were meant to elicit a response from the membership in cluding expe rts like Butch Walsh Boy did they ever respond
Each of us is required to confirm the exact methods us ed by the manufacturer or subsequently apshyproved modifications and to scrupulously duplicate those methshyods The type certificate drawings and other information are often
seen Stinsons with the original type insulation that had the puffy look while sitting quietly on the ground
Dip Davis is correct that the Stinshyson did not originally cover the tanks on the 108s though Ive seen many restorations with the tanks covered There can be a bit of a problem with fabric tapes not adhering well to the perimeter of the tanks In fact I had a few tapes come loose once on a trip to EAA Chapter 643 s fl y-in at Pittstown New Jersey in 1993 A litshytle contact cem ent and some help from Chapter 643 got me back home okay Shortly after that I decided it was time for a complete re-cover job
Here s one more item about balshylooning fabric on the Stinson 108s that I learned from Stinson guru Butch Walsh The cabin fresh air intakes are on the leading edge of th e wing (as shown on page 17 of th e March issue of Vintage Airplane) Th ese vents feed into a chamber inside the inboard rib bay This chamber is not sealed very well so forced air spills out into the wing as well as into the cabin Taking care to seal this chamshyber can eliminate some problems with fabric on the inboard portion of th e wing and will provide more fresh air in the cabin
I hope this will contribute to the
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Dont blindly follow the lead of someone who may have restored the airplane in the past-they ma y have missed something that is required How many times have you seen a poorly placed inspection hole only to hear II But that was the way it was inshystalled on the airplane when I got it I Only the factory drawings and any supplemental type certifishy
cates (STC) or other approved modifications can change the aircrafts legal configushyration and the method of fabric installation is part of that configushyration
As both HG and I have pOinted out in the past the covering supshypliers have specific instructions on how their covering methods are to be installed Since covering with the Poly-Fiber Cooper Superflight Ai r-Tech or other processes were not included in the type certificate for the airplanes that we were dealshying with here an STC for their installation was obtained by the resp ective companies If their method is not followed you run the risk of having the covering job re jected by an IA (AampP with inshyspection authorization) mechanic andor the FAA for not conformshying to the STC If an STCd part is installed on an aircraft and the methods spelled out in the STC are not followed the aircraft is unshyairworthy Un-airworthy aircraft dont have very good resale values and besides you can t fly them And thats the point of all of this right Let s get out there do it right and fly safely
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Weve gotten plenty of comshyments about the article concerning bulging fabric While it wasnt part of my column originally many of you have addressed your comments to me so Ill check in on the freshyquency
Before we get to that Id like to update you on the status of our Champ airworthiness directive compliance It went fine as you may recall reading in my July colshyumn but a funny thing happened after flying a bit in the rain-the paint we sprayed over the patches has started to come off Dang Usshying MEK I thought Id completely removed the lemon-scented furnishyture polish I use regularly to clean the leading edges but I guess I was wrong The paint on the leading edges is beginning to peel HG and I wonder if they put any silishycone in the polish Doesnt say so on the can but maybe its a secret ingredient The peeling paint makes the new name (see photo on page 26) for the Champ even more accurate
Lets get on with the loose fabric discussion
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First loose fabric is a hazard for a couple of reasons Loose fabric can chafe against fairing strips and fasshyteners weakening it If a fabric edge is caught in the slipstream it can easily be torn away The results can be disastrous If it gets tangled up with a control surface it can even cause a loss of control and at the very least the loose wildly flapping fabric can be a huge distraction Heres what some others had to say I cant say I agree with everyones comments but it certainly is intershyesting to see how fabrics are being applied in shops around the world Heres our first note
You must have received a lot of comments about the Stinsons bulging fabric Ill give you my 2~ worth
Ive re-covered at least four during the past 45 years and dozens of reshycovering jobs on many types of aircraft Ive used cotton Irish linen Ceconite Razorback and Stits Im sticking with Ceconite 101 which [ like best I like the smell of dope beshysides all the other good features
When I tighten Ceconite I set my iron at 400degF to 450degF ] do the initial
tightening with a heat gun Then] work it with the iron evenly until] can feel the right tautness Thats just the right drumming sound and feel After the first coat ofprimer nishytrate dope there may be a few slack areas I then go over them again but never holding the iron in one place very long
Every Stinson I re-covered had screws on the four stringers on top of the fuselage from the windshield back about 3 or 4 feet spaced 3 or 4 inches apart ] just looked at three Stinsons on our flight line and they all have the screws
Don Macor Duluth Minnesota
Dons method might work well for him but Id hesitate to suggest it to anyone else In particular the use of a heat gun is prohibited in the Poly-Fiber and other process manuals that deal with the installashytion of Dacron fabric Uneven heat application is the reason it is disshycouraged Id also point out that the Cooper Superflight manual among others highlights the fact that Dacron fabric will start to m~lt
when heated above 450degF Thats why Don says he does not linger too long when shrinking the fabric with an iron set above 400degF
I just received my July issue of Vinshytage Airplane I always look forward to its arriva l That cover photo of the Stearman is beautiful Hats off to Jim Koepnick who does such a great job ofphotographing these old planes
I was drawn to the article on page 4 Is that Covering too Slack I have an uncovered Stinson 108-3 sitting in my garage so perhaps I can shed some light on some of the details about covshyering the Stinson 108 series In the article someone said Id be tempted to rib-stitch the fabric to the upper stringers on the fuselage Id suggest avoiding that temptation The Stinson used 4 PK screws to attach the fabric to the ribs and to the stringers above the fuselage I know because I have a coffee can with hundreds of these screws that I removed from my plane Above the fuselage there are four hatshysection aluminum stringers On my Stinson the fabric was attached to each of these stringers with 10 PK screws at 3-inch intervals beginning aft of the leading edge and running back just aft of the rear spar I believe thats how it was done originally I would not suggest rib-stitching beshycause the sharp edges of the hat-section stringers would cut the lacing And of course there is the matter of legality Rib-stitching would be a modification from the original construction certainly not appropriate in this situation
The photo on page 5 shows apparshyent ballooning of the fabric over the cabin area of the fuselage but theres more to this than meets the eye At the Stinson factory a blanket of fibershyglass insulation was installed above the cabin Old photos show this insushylation installed above the stringers I believe the fabric was then attached through the insulation to the stringers with the PK screws That puffy look above the cabin may be caused (at least in part) by the insulation Ive
We had a couple of folks ask if we could show a comparison shot highlighting loose fabric with the Stinson as an example In 1999 EAAs crack photo staff took air-to-air photos of a couple of Stinsons The top photo shows the fabric ballooning above the cabin In the lower photo the airplane restored by noted Stinson 108 rebuilder Butch Walsh of Arrington Virginia clearly shows the 4 PK (Parker-Kalon) screws that secure the fabric to the cabin roof stringers before the finishing tapes are applied
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discussion Im sure there are others out there who know more about this than I do Id enjoy hearing from anyshyone interes ted in Stinsons I have a website that I call Hangar 9 Aeroworks It features my project and other information on the 108-series Stinsons The URL is wwwhangar9 aeroworkscom
John Baker Damascus Maryland
Dip and HG were the first to agree with the members who wrote and called in to take them to ta sk for not confirming the exact method of attachment used by Stinson The intent of the original write-up was not to compos e a Stinson maintenance manual but to highlight the hazards inherent in any fabric job that is not propshyerly installed Our comments were meant to elicit a response from the membership in cluding expe rts like Butch Walsh Boy did they ever respond
Each of us is required to confirm the exact methods us ed by the manufacturer or subsequently apshyproved modifications and to scrupulously duplicate those methshyods The type certificate drawings and other information are often
seen Stinsons with the original type insulation that had the puffy look while sitting quietly on the ground
Dip Davis is correct that the Stinshyson did not originally cover the tanks on the 108s though Ive seen many restorations with the tanks covered There can be a bit of a problem with fabric tapes not adhering well to the perimeter of the tanks In fact I had a few tapes come loose once on a trip to EAA Chapter 643 s fl y-in at Pittstown New Jersey in 1993 A litshytle contact cem ent and some help from Chapter 643 got me back home okay Shortly after that I decided it was time for a complete re-cover job
Here s one more item about balshylooning fabric on the Stinson 108s that I learned from Stinson guru Butch Walsh The cabin fresh air intakes are on the leading edge of th e wing (as shown on page 17 of th e March issue of Vintage Airplane) Th ese vents feed into a chamber inside the inboard rib bay This chamber is not sealed very well so forced air spills out into the wing as well as into the cabin Taking care to seal this chamshyber can eliminate some problems with fabric on the inboard portion of th e wing and will provide more fresh air in the cabin
I hope this will contribute to the
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Dont blindly follow the lead of someone who may have restored the airplane in the past-they ma y have missed something that is required How many times have you seen a poorly placed inspection hole only to hear II But that was the way it was inshystalled on the airplane when I got it I Only the factory drawings and any supplemental type certifishy
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As both HG and I have pOinted out in the past the covering supshypliers have specific instructions on how their covering methods are to be installed Since covering with the Poly-Fiber Cooper Superflight Ai r-Tech or other processes were not included in the type certificate for the airplanes that we were dealshying with here an STC for their installation was obtained by the resp ective companies If their method is not followed you run the risk of having the covering job re jected by an IA (AampP with inshyspection authorization) mechanic andor the FAA for not conformshying to the STC If an STCd part is installed on an aircraft and the methods spelled out in the STC are not followed the aircraft is unshyairworthy Un-airworthy aircraft dont have very good resale values and besides you can t fly them And thats the point of all of this right Let s get out there do it right and fly safely
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The photo on page 5 shows apparshyent ballooning of the fabric over the cabin area of the fuselage but theres more to this than meets the eye At the Stinson factory a blanket of fibershyglass insulation was installed above the cabin Old photos show this insushylation installed above the stringers I believe the fabric was then attached through the insulation to the stringers with the PK screws That puffy look above the cabin may be caused (at least in part) by the insulation Ive
We had a couple of folks ask if we could show a comparison shot highlighting loose fabric with the Stinson as an example In 1999 EAAs crack photo staff took air-to-air photos of a couple of Stinsons The top photo shows the fabric ballooning above the cabin In the lower photo the airplane restored by noted Stinson 108 rebuilder Butch Walsh of Arrington Virginia clearly shows the 4 PK (Parker-Kalon) screws that secure the fabric to the cabin roof stringers before the finishing tapes are applied
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discussion Im sure there are others out there who know more about this than I do Id enjoy hearing from anyshyone interes ted in Stinsons I have a website that I call Hangar 9 Aeroworks It features my project and other information on the 108-series Stinsons The URL is wwwhangar9 aeroworkscom
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Dip and HG were the first to agree with the members who wrote and called in to take them to ta sk for not confirming the exact method of attachment used by Stinson The intent of the original write-up was not to compos e a Stinson maintenance manual but to highlight the hazards inherent in any fabric job that is not propshyerly installed Our comments were meant to elicit a response from the membership in cluding expe rts like Butch Walsh Boy did they ever respond
Each of us is required to confirm the exact methods us ed by the manufacturer or subsequently apshyproved modifications and to scrupulously duplicate those methshyods The type certificate drawings and other information are often
seen Stinsons with the original type insulation that had the puffy look while sitting quietly on the ground
Dip Davis is correct that the Stinshyson did not originally cover the tanks on the 108s though Ive seen many restorations with the tanks covered There can be a bit of a problem with fabric tapes not adhering well to the perimeter of the tanks In fact I had a few tapes come loose once on a trip to EAA Chapter 643 s fl y-in at Pittstown New Jersey in 1993 A litshytle contact cem ent and some help from Chapter 643 got me back home okay Shortly after that I decided it was time for a complete re-cover job
Here s one more item about balshylooning fabric on the Stinson 108s that I learned from Stinson guru Butch Walsh The cabin fresh air intakes are on the leading edge of th e wing (as shown on page 17 of th e March issue of Vintage Airplane) Th ese vents feed into a chamber inside the inboard rib bay This chamber is not sealed very well so forced air spills out into the wing as well as into the cabin Taking care to seal this chamshyber can eliminate some problems with fabric on the inboard portion of th e wing and will provide more fresh air in the cabin
I hope this will contribute to the
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Dont blindly follow the lead of someone who may have restored the airplane in the past-they ma y have missed something that is required How many times have you seen a poorly placed inspection hole only to hear II But that was the way it was inshystalled on the airplane when I got it I Only the factory drawings and any supplemental type certifishy
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discussion Im sure there are others out there who know more about this than I do Id enjoy hearing from anyshyone interes ted in Stinsons I have a website that I call Hangar 9 Aeroworks It features my project and other information on the 108-series Stinsons The URL is wwwhangar9 aeroworkscom
John Baker Damascus Maryland
Dip and HG were the first to agree with the members who wrote and called in to take them to ta sk for not confirming the exact method of attachment used by Stinson The intent of the original write-up was not to compos e a Stinson maintenance manual but to highlight the hazards inherent in any fabric job that is not propshyerly installed Our comments were meant to elicit a response from the membership in cluding expe rts like Butch Walsh Boy did they ever respond
Each of us is required to confirm the exact methods us ed by the manufacturer or subsequently apshyproved modifications and to scrupulously duplicate those methshyods The type certificate drawings and other information are often
seen Stinsons with the original type insulation that had the puffy look while sitting quietly on the ground
Dip Davis is correct that the Stinshyson did not originally cover the tanks on the 108s though Ive seen many restorations with the tanks covered There can be a bit of a problem with fabric tapes not adhering well to the perimeter of the tanks In fact I had a few tapes come loose once on a trip to EAA Chapter 643 s fl y-in at Pittstown New Jersey in 1993 A litshytle contact cem ent and some help from Chapter 643 got me back home okay Shortly after that I decided it was time for a complete re-cover job
Here s one more item about balshylooning fabric on the Stinson 108s that I learned from Stinson guru Butch Walsh The cabin fresh air intakes are on the leading edge of th e wing (as shown on page 17 of th e March issue of Vintage Airplane) Th ese vents feed into a chamber inside the inboard rib bay This chamber is not sealed very well so forced air spills out into the wing as well as into the cabin Taking care to seal this chamshyber can eliminate some problems with fabric on the inboard portion of th e wing and will provide more fresh air in the cabin
I hope this will contribute to the
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After we compiled with AD 2000shy25-02 the Champ looked a bit more shop-worn so we gave it a new name
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Dont blindly follow the lead of someone who may have restored the airplane in the past-they ma y have missed something that is required How many times have you seen a poorly placed inspection hole only to hear II But that was the way it was inshystalled on the airplane when I got it I Only the factory drawings and any supplemental type certifishy
cates (STC) or other approved modifications can change the aircrafts legal configushyration and the method of fabric installation is part of that configushyration
As both HG and I have pOinted out in the past the covering supshypliers have specific instructions on how their covering methods are to be installed Since covering with the Poly-Fiber Cooper Superflight Ai r-Tech or other processes were not included in the type certificate for the airplanes that we were dealshying with here an STC for their installation was obtained by the resp ective companies If their method is not followed you run the risk of having the covering job re jected by an IA (AampP with inshyspection authorization) mechanic andor the FAA for not conformshying to the STC If an STCd part is installed on an aircraft and the methods spelled out in the STC are not followed the aircraft is unshyairworthy Un-airworthy aircraft dont have very good resale values and besides you can t fly them And thats the point of all of this right Let s get out there do it right and fly safely
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The following list ofcoming events is furnished to SEPTEMBER I5-Moriarty NM- Land 0EnchantshySEPTEMBER 22-23 - Riverside CA - EAA Ch Olle our readers as a matter ofinformation only and does ment Fly-In Young Eagles Rally at the Moriarty Open House and Fly-In at Flabob Airport (RlR)
Municipal Aiport (OEO) Homebuilts classics Free Admission Saturday evening banquet ticketsnot constitute approval sponsorship involvement warbirds militGlY vehicles classic cars amp motorcyshymay be purchased in advance Info 909682-6236
control or direction ofany event (fly-in seminarsfly cles Free flights to kids and teenagers (8-17) 8am or eaachapteroneyahoocom market etc) listed Please send the information to pallcake breafasl pig roast at dusk Ino 505296shySEPTEMBER 28-29- Visalia CA - Vintage Years AirEAA All Vintage Airplane PO Box 3086 5050 or netrickthunteknet amp Car Show at Visalia Municipal Airport SpecialOshkosh Wl 54903-3086 Information should be reshySEPTEMBER 16-UticaiRome NY-Oneida County Laughter In Bloom A Tribute to Jack Benny oneshyceivedfour months prior to the event date Airport Air Acts Jet Demos Fly In EAA Breakshyman show on 928 at Fox Theater Ino
ast Show hours II am-4pm Fuel discountsor all 559289-0887 fly-ins and free lunch Ino 315-636-4171 or SEPTEMBER 29 - Hanover IN - Wood Fabric ampljrayaallglobalnetSEPTEMBER 8-9 - Brookraven Airport NY - 38th Tailwheels 2001 at Lee Bottom Airport (64i) 20
Annual Fly-In ofthe Antique Airplane Club of SEPTEMBER 15-16 - Rock Falls IL - North Central mifrom Louisville Kentucky (Rain date Sunday Greater New York Static display of vintage alld EAA Old-Fashioned Fly-In Whiteside County Sept 30) Ino 812866-32 If or homebuilts flea market dinner dance held ofsight Airport (SQI) Forums workshopsfly-market NX21175THaolcom at the end ofthe day 1110 631589-0374 camping exhibitorsfood and air rally Aircraft SEPTEMBER 29 - Topping VA - Wings and Wheels
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enectady County Airport Route 50 Acrobatics SEPTEMBER 21-22 - Abilelll~ o est EAA USCG boats Jayhawk helicopter hot air balloon pyrotechnics parachutes gliders military aircraft and much much more Contactor participants activitieslor children and more Will highlight the n U lee Spectator parkingee $4 Ino 8041758-4330FlY~e
SEPT t vii e OK - Frank10th AnlliversGlY ofOperation Desert Storm Gates wingsandwheelshotmailcom websitePh )th Anllual Tulsa Regional Fly-In or open 9 am Show begins at I pm Tickets $12or htfpjIytowingsandwhees adults and $5or children Fly-ins welcome Ino SEPTEMBER 21-22 - Bartlesville OK - Frank 518377-5129 Phillips Field 15th annual Biplane Expo SEPTEMBER 29 - Zanesville OH - VAA Ch 220
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Well OK maybe he didnt actually say that but we bet he would have if Poly-Fiber had
been around in the 30s His plane would have been lighter and stronger too and the chance of fire would have been greatly reduced because Poly-Fiber wont support combustion Not only that but Gilmores playful claw holes would have been easy to repair Sorry Roscoe
Really easy to use The best manual around 40 years of success Nationwide EAA workshopsNew step-by-step video Toll-free technical support
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OCTOBER 13 - Hampton NH - VAA Ch 15 Pumpshykin Patch Fly-In and Pancake Breakfast Hampton Aifield Rain date Oct 14 1nfo 603964-6749
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The following list ofcoming events is furnished to SEPTEMBER I5-Moriarty NM- Land 0EnchantshySEPTEMBER 22-23 - Riverside CA - EAA Ch Olle our readers as a matter ofinformation only and does ment Fly-In Young Eagles Rally at the Moriarty Open House and Fly-In at Flabob Airport (RlR)
Municipal Aiport (OEO) Homebuilts classics Free Admission Saturday evening banquet ticketsnot constitute approval sponsorship involvement warbirds militGlY vehicles classic cars amp motorcyshymay be purchased in advance Info 909682-6236
control or direction ofany event (fly-in seminarsfly cles Free flights to kids and teenagers (8-17) 8am or eaachapteroneyahoocom market etc) listed Please send the information to pallcake breafasl pig roast at dusk Ino 505296shySEPTEMBER 28-29- Visalia CA - Vintage Years AirEAA All Vintage Airplane PO Box 3086 5050 or netrickthunteknet amp Car Show at Visalia Municipal Airport SpecialOshkosh Wl 54903-3086 Information should be reshySEPTEMBER 16-UticaiRome NY-Oneida County Laughter In Bloom A Tribute to Jack Benny oneshyceivedfour months prior to the event date Airport Air Acts Jet Demos Fly In EAA Breakshyman show on 928 at Fox Theater Ino
ast Show hours II am-4pm Fuel discountsor all 559289-0887 fly-ins and free lunch Ino 315-636-4171 or SEPTEMBER 29 - Hanover IN - Wood Fabric ampljrayaallglobalnetSEPTEMBER 8-9 - Brookraven Airport NY - 38th Tailwheels 2001 at Lee Bottom Airport (64i) 20
Annual Fly-In ofthe Antique Airplane Club of SEPTEMBER 15-16 - Rock Falls IL - North Central mifrom Louisville Kentucky (Rain date Sunday Greater New York Static display of vintage alld EAA Old-Fashioned Fly-In Whiteside County Sept 30) Ino 812866-32 If or homebuilts flea market dinner dance held ofsight Airport (SQI) Forums workshopsfly-market NX21175THaolcom at the end ofthe day 1110 631589-0374 camping exhibitorsfood and air rally Aircraft SEPTEMBER 29 - Topping VA - Wings and Wheels
judging ends Noon Sun Sunday Pancake BreakfastSEPTEMBER 8-9-Glenville NY- Empire State 2001 at Hummel Ail Field (W-75) 60 mi east 0Info 630543-6743 or eaa IOIaolcomAerosciences Museum Flight 200 Airshow Schshy Richmond VA Food crafts rides NASA GA
enectady County Airport Route 50 Acrobatics SEPTEMBER 21-22 - Abilelll~ o est EAA USCG boats Jayhawk helicopter hot air balloon pyrotechnics parachutes gliders military aircraft and much much more Contactor participants activitieslor children and more Will highlight the n U lee Spectator parkingee $4 Ino 8041758-4330FlY~e
SEPT t vii e OK - Frank10th AnlliversGlY ofOperation Desert Storm Gates wingsandwheelshotmailcom websitePh )th Anllual Tulsa Regional Fly-In or open 9 am Show begins at I pm Tickets $12or htfpjIytowingsandwhees adults and $5or children Fly-ins welcome Ino SEPTEMBER 21-22 - Bartlesville OK - Frank 518377-5129 Phillips Field 15th annual Biplane Expo SEPTEMBER 29 - Zanesville OH - VAA Ch 220
I couldnt have won
these swell trophies without
Poly-Fiber Roscoe Turner - Famous Race Pilot
Well OK maybe he didnt actually say that but we bet he would have if Poly-Fiber had
been around in the 30s His plane would have been lighter and stronger too and the chance of fire would have been greatly reduced because Poly-Fiber wont support combustion Not only that but Gilmores playful claw holes would have been easy to repair Sorry Roscoe
Really easy to use The best manual around 40 years of success Nationwide EAA workshopsNew step-by-step video Toll-free technical support
800-362-3490 wwwpolyfibercom e-mail Infopolyflbercom
FAX909-684-0518
28 SEPTEMBER 200 1
Fly high with a quality Classic interior Complete interior assemblies ready for instalation
Custom quality at economical prices
bull Cushion upholstery sets bull Wall panel sets bull Headliners bull Carpet sets bull Baggage compartment sets bull Firewall covers bull Seat slings
Free catalog of complete product line
Fabric Selection Guide showing actual sample colors and styles of materials $300
Qir~RODUCTS INC 259 Lower Morrisville Rd Dept VA Fallsington PA 19054 (215) 295-4115 website wwwairtexinteriorscom Fax 800394-1247 bull
Ohio 10th Annual Fly-In John $ Landing Airfield 8 am - 5 pm Breakfast and lunchfree participashytion plaques Rain date Sept 30th Info 740453-6889 or 740455-9900
OCTOBER 5- 7 - DarlingtOlI SC - VAA Chapter 3 Fall Fly-In All welcome Speaker on Saturday is Ken Hyde Director ofthe Wright Flyer replica project Info 919225-0713 or Fax 757873-3059
OCTOBER 5-7 - Evergreen AL -1 1th Annual EAA South East Regional Fly-In On field campground showersfoodjlying ampfun Info wwwserfiorg
OCTOBER 6-7 - Toughkenamon PA - 31st EAA East Coast Regional Fly-In New Garden Flying Field (N57) 25 miles west ofPhiladelphia Classhysics welcome awards plenty offood all day For fun come dressed in your yesteryear aviation atshytire Info 302894-1094
OCTOBER 6- 7 - Rutland VT - Rutland State airshyport EAA Ch 968 s 11 th Leafpeepers Fly-1n Breakfast Come see the fall colors in the Green Mountains ofVermont Info 802492-3647
OCTOBER 13 - Hampton NH - VAA Ch 15 Pumpshykin Patch Fly-In and Pancake Breakfast Hampton Aifield Rain date Oct 14 1nfo 603964-6749
OCTOBER 13-4 - Winchester VA - EAA Ch 186 Fall Fly-In Winchester Regional Airport (OKV) 8 am-5 pm Pancake breakfast 8-1 I am Static display ofaircraft airplane and helicopter rides demos aircraft judging childrens play area and more Concessions sOllvenirs good food Info Ms Tangy Mooney 703780-6329 or EAA 186netscapenet
OCTOBER 13-4 - Alliance OH - Military Vehicle Show and Fly-In at Alliance-Barber Airport (2D1) put on by Marlboro Volunteers Inc Military disshyplays reenactments ampjly-bys Info 330823-1168 or jbarberalliancelinkcom
want to see your lane or pearls of wisdom in print
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technical articles and photos of your latest restoration We cant offer you money
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Send your submissions to Editor Vintage Airplane
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For pointers on format and content feel free to call
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bull Introduction To Aircraft Building
bull Whats Involved In BuildingAn Airplane
bull TIG Welding
bull Gas Welding
bull Sheet Metal
bull Sheet Metal Forming
bull Electrical Systems Wiring And Avionics
WORKSHOP S --~--
I-SOO-WORKSHOP 1-800-967-5746 workshopssportaircom wwwsportaircom
bull Engine Installation
bull Fabric Covering
bull Composite Construction
bull Finishing And Spray Painting
bull Test FlyingYour Project
bull Kit Specific Workshops Lancair Assembly Vans RV Series Assembly VeloCity Assembly
~
bull bullbull Air c raft Coatlno_
wwwpolyfibercom
wwwaircraftsprucecom
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BABBITT BEARING SERVICE - rod bearings main bearings bushings master rods valves pisshyton rings Call us Toll Free 1800233-6934 e-mail ramremfgaolcom Web site wwwramenginecom VINTAGE ENGINE MACHINE WORKS N 604 FREYA ST SPOKANE WA 99202
Airplane T-Shirts 150 Different Airplanes Available WE PROBABLY HAVE YOUR AIRPLANE wwwairplanetshirtscom 1-800-645-7739
BIPLANE ODYSSEY - Flying the Stearman to every US State and Canadian Province in North America Hardcover 382 pages 16 pages color illustrations $25 Mountain Press 609-924-4002 wwwbiplaneodysseycom
THERES JUST NOTHING LIKE IT ON THE WEB wwwaviation-giftshopcom A Web Site With The Pilot In Mind (and those who love airplanes)
Wanted Brownback or similar brand radial engines complete or crankcaseshaft circa 1920sshy1930s even number of cylinders (six or eight) Write or call J D Hicks P O Box 159 Fisherville KY 40023 502-649-5833
For sale reluctantly Warner 145 amp 165 engines 1 each new OH and low time No tire kickers please Two Curtiss Reed props to go with above engines 1934 Aeronca C-3 Razorback with spare engine parts 1966 Helton Lark 95 Serial 8 Very rare PQ-8 certified Target Drone derivative Trishygear Culver Cadet See Juptners Vol 8-170 Total time AampE 845 hrs I just have too many toys and Im not getting any younger Find my name in the Officers amp Directors listing of Vintage and e-mail or call evenings E E Buck Hilbert
1940 Porterfield Collegiate LP-65 201 SMOH 2614 TTAF 910 inout always hangared 1980 Oshkosh Award Winner new annual $25900 254-412-0646
Color printto match your aircraft with N 11x14 ready to frame $25 + sampH E-mail jlgasserjunocom
Aircraft Exhaust Systems Jumping Branch WV 25969
800-227-5951
30 different engines for fitting
Antiques Warbirds General Aviation 304-466-1 724 Fax 304-466-0802
VlfiTAGL ALRO fAPgtRICJ LTD )111 1 ( 1tI ~
Dont compromise your restoration withmodern coverings finishtheiob correctly with authenticfabrics
Certificated Grade A callan Early aimaft callan
Imported aircraft Unen (beige and tan) German WWI Lozenge print fabric
Fabric tapes straight pinked and early American pinked Waxed linen lacing cord
Vinlage Aero Fabrics ltd 18 Journeys End Mendon VT 05701 lei 802-786middot0705 fox 802-786-2129 website wwwavclolhcom
EAAs 2002 Calendar Features the Best In Aviation Photography with
o 13 flight inspiring month s to schedule appointments and important events
o 12 x 24 format you ca n proudly
To O rder Call
1-800-843-3612 (Outside US amp Canada 920-426-5912)
Send your order by mai l to EAA Mail Orders
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Major credit cards accepted W I residents add 5 sales
tax Shipping and handling not included
The Lpoundader In Recreational Aviation
display in your home and office
o Full -color images ideal for framing
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=
10 12
IS 16 17 18 19
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Membershi~ Services Directon_ Enjoy the many benefits ofBAA and the
ASSOCIATION OFFICERS
Presldenl Vlce-Presldenl Esple Butch Joyce George Daubner
PO Box 35584 2448 Lough Lane Greensboro NC 27425 Harllord WI 53027
336393-0344 262673-5885 wlndsockaolcom onllque2aolcom
TreasurerSecrelary Chanes w HarrisSteve Nessa 7215 Easl46lh SI2fXJI Highland Ave Tulsa OK 74147Albert Lea MN 5IflJ7
918622-8400flJ7373-1674 cwhhvsucom
DIRECTORS David Benne Jeannie Hili PO Box 1188 PO Box 328
Roseville CA 95678 Harvard IL 60033 916645-Q926 815943-7205
anllquerlnreachcom dinghaoowcnel
Robert C Bob Brauer Sieve Krog 9345 S Hoyne 1002 Healher Ln
Harllord WI 53027Ch7~~~~9~~m20 262966-7627 pholopllotaoicom sskrogaolcom
John Berendt labert D Bob Lumley 7645 Echo Polnl Rd 1265 Soulh I 241h SI
Connon fal~ MN 55009 Brookfield WI 53005 flJ7263-2414 262782-2633
fchidrconnectcom lumperexecpccom
Gene Morris I A Deacon Sireet John S Copeland
5936 Steve Court Roanoke TX 76262
North~~~t~01532 817491-9110 copelandljunocom n03captfioshnet
Dean Richardson Phil Coulson 1429 Kings Lynn Rd
28415 Springbrook Dr Lawton M149065 Sto~i~97as53589
616624-6490 darapnlalrecom rcou~16cscom
Geoff Robison Roger Gomoll 1521 E MacGregor Dr
New Haven IN 467743~~~~~~ 219493-4724 flJ7288-2810 chlefl025aoicom
rgomolhotmallcom SH Wes Schmid
Dale A Gustafson 2359 Leleber Aveooe 7724 Shady Hills Dr Wouwatosa WI 53213
Indlancpol~ IN 46278 4141771-1545 317293-4430 shschmidgdinetcom
DIRECTORS EMERITUS
Gene Chase EE Buck Hilbert 2159 Canton Rd PO Box 424
Oshkosh WI 54904 Unlon IL 60180 920231-fIJ02 815923-4591
buck7acmcnet
ADVISORS Alan Shackleton
PO Box 656 Sugar Grove IL 60554-0656
630466-4193 1033461772COfrlJSOOlecom
Steve Bender Dave Clark 815 Airport Road 635 Vestal Lane
Roancke TX 76262 PlalnfteldIN 46168 817491-4700 317839-4500
sstlOOemallmsncom davecpdlquestnet
BAA Vintage Aircraft Association ~ EAA Aviation Center PO Box 3086 Oshkosh WI 54903-3086
Phone (920) 426-4800 Fax (920) 426-4873 Web Site httpwwweaaorgand httpwwwairventureorg E-Mail vintage eaaorg
EAA and Division Membership Services 800-843-3612 FAX 920-426-6761 (800 AM -700 PM Monday-Friday CST) bull Newlrenew memberships EAA Divisions
(Vintage Aircraft Association lAC Warbirds) National Association of Flight Instructors (NAF)
bull Address changes bull Merchandise sal es bull Gift m emberships
Programs and Activities EAA AirVenture Fax-On-Demand Directory 732-885-6711
Auto Fuel STCs 920-426-4843 Buildrestore information 920-426-4821 Chapters locatingorganizing 920-426-4876 Education 920-426-6815
bull EAA Air Academy bull EAA Scholarships
Flight Advisors information 920-426-6522 Flight Instructor information 920-426-6801 Flying Start Program 920-426-6847 Library ServicesResearch _ 920-426-4848 Medical Questions 920-426-4821 Technical Counselors 920-426-4821 Young Eagles 920-426-4831
Benefits Aircraft Financing (Textron) 800-851-1367 AVA _ 800-727-3823 AVEMCO 800-638-8440 Term Life and Accidental 800-241-6103 Death Insurance (Harvey Watt amp Company)
Editorial Submitting articlephoto advertising information 920-426-4825 bull FAX 920-426-4828
EAA Aviation Foundation Artifact Donations 920-426-4877 Financial Support 800-236-1025
MEMBERSHIP INFORMATION EAA available for $50 per year (SPORT AVIATION magshy
Membership in the Experimental Aircraft Association azine not included) (Add $10 for Foreign Inc is $40 for one year including 12 issues of SPORT Postage) AVIATION Family membership is available for an addishytional $10 annually Junior Membership (under 19 WARBIRDS years of age) is available at $23 annually All major Current EAA members may join the EAA Warbirds of
credit cards accepted for membership (Add $16 for America Division and receive WARBIRDS magazine
Foreign Postage) for an additional $35 per year EAA Membership WARBIRDS magazine and one year membership in the Warbirds DivisionVINTAGE AIRCRAFT ASSOCIATION is available for $45 per year (SPORT AVIATION
Current EAA members may join the Vintage Aircraft magazine not included) (Add $7 for Foreign
Associaton and receive VINTAGE AIRPLANE magashyPostage)
zine for an additional $36 per year EAA Membership VINTAGE AIRPLANE magazine EAA EXPERIMENTERand one year membership in the EM Vintage Airshy
Curren t EAA members may receive EAAcraft Associat ion is available for $46 per year EXPERIMENTER magazine for an additional $20 (SPORT AVIATION magazine not included) (Add per year $7 for Foreign Postage) EAA Membership and EAA EXPERIMENTER magshyazine is available for $30 per year (SPORT
lAC AVIATION magazine not inciuded)(Add $8 for ForshyCurrent EM members may join the International eign Postage) Aerobatic Club Inc Division and receive SPORT AEROBATICS magazine for an additional $40 FOREIGN MEMBERSHIPS per year Please submit your remittance with a check or EAA Membership SPORT AEROBATICS magazine draft drawn on a United States bank payable in and one year membership in the lAC Division is United States dollars Add required Foreign
Postage amount for each membership
Membership dues to EAA and its divisions are not tax deductible as charitable contributions
Copyright copy2 001 by Ihe EM Vintage Aircraft Association All rights reserved
VINTAGE AIRPLANE (ISSN 0091-6943) IPM 1482602 is pulgtished and owned exclusively by the EAA Vintage Aircraft Association of the Experimental Aircraft Association and is published monthly at EAA Avialion Center 3000 Poberezny Rd PO Box 3086 Oshkosh Wiscon~n 54903-3086 Periodicals Postage paid at Oshkosh Wisconsin 54901 and at addnional mailing offices POSTMASTER Send address changes to EM Vintage Aircraft Association PO Box 3086 Oshkosh WI 54903-3086 FOREIGN AND APO ADDRESSES - Please allow alleast two monlhs for delivery at VINTAGE AIRPLANE to foreign and APO addresses via surtace mail ADVERTISING - Vintage Aircraft Association does not guarantee or endorse any product offered through the advertising We invite constructive criticism and welcome any report of inferior merchandise obtalned through our advertising so that corrective measures can be taken EDITORIAL POLICY Readers are encouraged to submtt stories and photographs Policy apnions expressed in articles are solely those of the authors Respon~lgtlity for accuracy in reporting rests entirely with the contributor No renumeralion is made Material shoold be sent to Ednor VINTAGE AIRPLANE PO Box 3086 Oshkosh WI 54903-3086 Phone 9201426-4800
The words EM ULTRAliGHT FLY WITH THE FIRST TEAM SPORT AVIATION FOR THE LOVE OF FLYING and the logos of EM EAA INTERNATIONAL CONVENTION EM VINTAGE AIRCRAFT ASSOCIATION INTERNAshyTIONAL AEROBATIC CLUB WARBIRDS Of AMERICA are reg registered trademarllts THE EM SKY SHOPPE and logos of the EM AVIATION FOUNDATION EAA ULTRALIGHT CONVENTION and EAA AirYenture are tradeshymarks of the above associations and their use by any person other than the above association is strictly prohibited
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 31
Phi and Debbie Urich
Punta Gorda FL
Owners of Classic
Air Ventures Inc
Phil is an ATP with
18000 hours and flew
DC-6s for Northern Air
Cargo in Alaska
AUAis
approved
To become a
member of the
Vintage Aircraft
Association call
800middot843middot3612
Phil Debbie and Waco stand alongside the Ulrich s 1940 Waco UPF-7
Being in the ride business and
operating a 1940 Waco UPF-~ its not
always easy to obtain adequate
insurance coverage but AU A Inc has
provided exceptional service and saved
us hundreds of dollars The staff has
always gone that extra mile to help in
any way they can Thank you AUA
- Phil Ulrich
The best is affordable
Give AUA a call - its FREE
800-727-3823 Fly with the pros fly with AUA Inc
AUAs Exclusive EAA Vintage Aircraft Assoc Insurance Program
Lower liability and hull premiums
Medical payments included
Fleet discounts for multiple aircraft carrying all risk coverages
No hand-propping exclusion
No age penalty
No component parts endorsements
Discounts for claim-free renewals carrying all risk coverages
Remember Were Better Together
AVIATION UNLIMITED AGENCY
Ohio 10th Annual Fly-In John $ Landing Airfield 8 am - 5 pm Breakfast and lunchfree participashytion plaques Rain date Sept 30th Info 740453-6889 or 740455-9900
OCTOBER 5- 7 - DarlingtOlI SC - VAA Chapter 3 Fall Fly-In All welcome Speaker on Saturday is Ken Hyde Director ofthe Wright Flyer replica project Info 919225-0713 or Fax 757873-3059
OCTOBER 5-7 - Evergreen AL -1 1th Annual EAA South East Regional Fly-In On field campground showersfoodjlying ampfun Info wwwserfiorg
OCTOBER 6-7 - Toughkenamon PA - 31st EAA East Coast Regional Fly-In New Garden Flying Field (N57) 25 miles west ofPhiladelphia Classhysics welcome awards plenty offood all day For fun come dressed in your yesteryear aviation atshytire Info 302894-1094
OCTOBER 6- 7 - Rutland VT - Rutland State airshyport EAA Ch 968 s 11 th Leafpeepers Fly-1n Breakfast Come see the fall colors in the Green Mountains ofVermont Info 802492-3647
OCTOBER 13 - Hampton NH - VAA Ch 15 Pumpshykin Patch Fly-In and Pancake Breakfast Hampton Aifield Rain date Oct 14 1nfo 603964-6749
OCTOBER 13-4 - Winchester VA - EAA Ch 186 Fall Fly-In Winchester Regional Airport (OKV) 8 am-5 pm Pancake breakfast 8-1 I am Static display ofaircraft airplane and helicopter rides demos aircraft judging childrens play area and more Concessions sOllvenirs good food Info Ms Tangy Mooney 703780-6329 or EAA 186netscapenet
OCTOBER 13-4 - Alliance OH - Military Vehicle Show and Fly-In at Alliance-Barber Airport (2D1) put on by Marlboro Volunteers Inc Military disshyplays reenactments ampjly-bys Info 330823-1168 or jbarberalliancelinkcom
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Something to buy sell or trade
Classified Word Ads $550 per 10 words 180 words maximum with boldface lead-in on first line Classified Display Ads One column wide (2167 inches) by 1 2 or 3 inches high at $20 per inch Black and white only and no frequency discounts Advertising Closing Dates 10th ofsecond month prior to desired issue date (ie January 10 is the closing date for the March issue) V M reserves the right to reject any advertising in conflict with its policies Rates cover one insertion per issue Classified ads are not accepted via phone Payment must accompany order Word ads may be sent via fax (920426-4828) or e-mail (classadseaaorg) using credit card payment (VISA Or MasterCard) Include name on card complete address type of card card number and expiration date Make checks payable to EM Address advertising correshyspondence to EM Publications Classified Ad Manager Po Box 3086 Oshkosh WI 54903-3086
BABBITT BEARING SERVICE - rod bearings main bearings bushings master rods valves pisshyton rings Call us Toll Free 1800233-6934 e-mail ramremfgaolcom Web site wwwramenginecom VINTAGE ENGINE MACHINE WORKS N 604 FREYA ST SPOKANE WA 99202
Airplane T-Shirts 150 Different Airplanes Available WE PROBABLY HAVE YOUR AIRPLANE wwwairplanetshirtscom 1-800-645-7739
BIPLANE ODYSSEY - Flying the Stearman to every US State and Canadian Province in North America Hardcover 382 pages 16 pages color illustrations $25 Mountain Press 609-924-4002 wwwbiplaneodysseycom
THERES JUST NOTHING LIKE IT ON THE WEB wwwaviation-giftshopcom A Web Site With The Pilot In Mind (and those who love airplanes)
Wanted Brownback or similar brand radial engines complete or crankcaseshaft circa 1920sshy1930s even number of cylinders (six or eight) Write or call J D Hicks P O Box 159 Fisherville KY 40023 502-649-5833
For sale reluctantly Warner 145 amp 165 engines 1 each new OH and low time No tire kickers please Two Curtiss Reed props to go with above engines 1934 Aeronca C-3 Razorback with spare engine parts 1966 Helton Lark 95 Serial 8 Very rare PQ-8 certified Target Drone derivative Trishygear Culver Cadet See Juptners Vol 8-170 Total time AampE 845 hrs I just have too many toys and Im not getting any younger Find my name in the Officers amp Directors listing of Vintage and e-mail or call evenings E E Buck Hilbert
1940 Porterfield Collegiate LP-65 201 SMOH 2614 TTAF 910 inout always hangared 1980 Oshkosh Award Winner new annual $25900 254-412-0646
Color printto match your aircraft with N 11x14 ready to frame $25 + sampH E-mail jlgasserjunocom
Aircraft Exhaust Systems Jumping Branch WV 25969
800-227-5951
30 different engines for fitting
Antiques Warbirds General Aviation 304-466-1 724 Fax 304-466-0802
VlfiTAGL ALRO fAPgtRICJ LTD )111 1 ( 1tI ~
Dont compromise your restoration withmodern coverings finishtheiob correctly with authenticfabrics
Certificated Grade A callan Early aimaft callan
Imported aircraft Unen (beige and tan) German WWI Lozenge print fabric
Fabric tapes straight pinked and early American pinked Waxed linen lacing cord
Vinlage Aero Fabrics ltd 18 Journeys End Mendon VT 05701 lei 802-786middot0705 fox 802-786-2129 website wwwavclolhcom
EAAs 2002 Calendar Features the Best In Aviation Photography with
o 13 flight inspiring month s to schedule appointments and important events
o 12 x 24 format you ca n proudly
To O rder Call
1-800-843-3612 (Outside US amp Canada 920-426-5912)
Send your order by mai l to EAA Mail Orders
PO Box 3086 Oshkosh W I 54903-3086
Major credit cards accepted W I residents add 5 sales
tax Shipping and handling not included
The Lpoundader In Recreational Aviation
display in your home and office
o Full -color images ideal for framing
o Dates and web sites to assist in planning you r trip to EAA AirVenture Oshkosh and the many EAA Regional Fly-Ins throughou t the US
20 21
=
10 12
IS 16 17 18 19
VINTAGE AIRCRAFT
Membershi~ Services Directon_ Enjoy the many benefits ofBAA and the
ASSOCIATION OFFICERS
Presldenl Vlce-Presldenl Esple Butch Joyce George Daubner
PO Box 35584 2448 Lough Lane Greensboro NC 27425 Harllord WI 53027
336393-0344 262673-5885 wlndsockaolcom onllque2aolcom
TreasurerSecrelary Chanes w HarrisSteve Nessa 7215 Easl46lh SI2fXJI Highland Ave Tulsa OK 74147Albert Lea MN 5IflJ7
918622-8400flJ7373-1674 cwhhvsucom
DIRECTORS David Benne Jeannie Hili PO Box 1188 PO Box 328
Roseville CA 95678 Harvard IL 60033 916645-Q926 815943-7205
anllquerlnreachcom dinghaoowcnel
Robert C Bob Brauer Sieve Krog 9345 S Hoyne 1002 Healher Ln
Harllord WI 53027Ch7~~~~9~~m20 262966-7627 pholopllotaoicom sskrogaolcom
John Berendt labert D Bob Lumley 7645 Echo Polnl Rd 1265 Soulh I 241h SI
Connon fal~ MN 55009 Brookfield WI 53005 flJ7263-2414 262782-2633
fchidrconnectcom lumperexecpccom
Gene Morris I A Deacon Sireet John S Copeland
5936 Steve Court Roanoke TX 76262
North~~~t~01532 817491-9110 copelandljunocom n03captfioshnet
Dean Richardson Phil Coulson 1429 Kings Lynn Rd
28415 Springbrook Dr Lawton M149065 Sto~i~97as53589
616624-6490 darapnlalrecom rcou~16cscom
Geoff Robison Roger Gomoll 1521 E MacGregor Dr
New Haven IN 467743~~~~~~ 219493-4724 flJ7288-2810 chlefl025aoicom
rgomolhotmallcom SH Wes Schmid
Dale A Gustafson 2359 Leleber Aveooe 7724 Shady Hills Dr Wouwatosa WI 53213
Indlancpol~ IN 46278 4141771-1545 317293-4430 shschmidgdinetcom
DIRECTORS EMERITUS
Gene Chase EE Buck Hilbert 2159 Canton Rd PO Box 424
Oshkosh WI 54904 Unlon IL 60180 920231-fIJ02 815923-4591
buck7acmcnet
ADVISORS Alan Shackleton
PO Box 656 Sugar Grove IL 60554-0656
630466-4193 1033461772COfrlJSOOlecom
Steve Bender Dave Clark 815 Airport Road 635 Vestal Lane
Roancke TX 76262 PlalnfteldIN 46168 817491-4700 317839-4500
sstlOOemallmsncom davecpdlquestnet
BAA Vintage Aircraft Association ~ EAA Aviation Center PO Box 3086 Oshkosh WI 54903-3086
Phone (920) 426-4800 Fax (920) 426-4873 Web Site httpwwweaaorgand httpwwwairventureorg E-Mail vintage eaaorg
EAA and Division Membership Services 800-843-3612 FAX 920-426-6761 (800 AM -700 PM Monday-Friday CST) bull Newlrenew memberships EAA Divisions
(Vintage Aircraft Association lAC Warbirds) National Association of Flight Instructors (NAF)
bull Address changes bull Merchandise sal es bull Gift m emberships
Programs and Activities EAA AirVenture Fax-On-Demand Directory 732-885-6711
Auto Fuel STCs 920-426-4843 Buildrestore information 920-426-4821 Chapters locatingorganizing 920-426-4876 Education 920-426-6815
bull EAA Air Academy bull EAA Scholarships
Flight Advisors information 920-426-6522 Flight Instructor information 920-426-6801 Flying Start Program 920-426-6847 Library ServicesResearch _ 920-426-4848 Medical Questions 920-426-4821 Technical Counselors 920-426-4821 Young Eagles 920-426-4831
Benefits Aircraft Financing (Textron) 800-851-1367 AVA _ 800-727-3823 AVEMCO 800-638-8440 Term Life and Accidental 800-241-6103 Death Insurance (Harvey Watt amp Company)
Editorial Submitting articlephoto advertising information 920-426-4825 bull FAX 920-426-4828
EAA Aviation Foundation Artifact Donations 920-426-4877 Financial Support 800-236-1025
MEMBERSHIP INFORMATION EAA available for $50 per year (SPORT AVIATION magshy
Membership in the Experimental Aircraft Association azine not included) (Add $10 for Foreign Inc is $40 for one year including 12 issues of SPORT Postage) AVIATION Family membership is available for an addishytional $10 annually Junior Membership (under 19 WARBIRDS years of age) is available at $23 annually All major Current EAA members may join the EAA Warbirds of
credit cards accepted for membership (Add $16 for America Division and receive WARBIRDS magazine
Foreign Postage) for an additional $35 per year EAA Membership WARBIRDS magazine and one year membership in the Warbirds DivisionVINTAGE AIRCRAFT ASSOCIATION is available for $45 per year (SPORT AVIATION
Current EAA members may join the Vintage Aircraft magazine not included) (Add $7 for Foreign
Associaton and receive VINTAGE AIRPLANE magashyPostage)
zine for an additional $36 per year EAA Membership VINTAGE AIRPLANE magazine EAA EXPERIMENTERand one year membership in the EM Vintage Airshy
Curren t EAA members may receive EAAcraft Associat ion is available for $46 per year EXPERIMENTER magazine for an additional $20 (SPORT AVIATION magazine not included) (Add per year $7 for Foreign Postage) EAA Membership and EAA EXPERIMENTER magshyazine is available for $30 per year (SPORT
lAC AVIATION magazine not inciuded)(Add $8 for ForshyCurrent EM members may join the International eign Postage) Aerobatic Club Inc Division and receive SPORT AEROBATICS magazine for an additional $40 FOREIGN MEMBERSHIPS per year Please submit your remittance with a check or EAA Membership SPORT AEROBATICS magazine draft drawn on a United States bank payable in and one year membership in the lAC Division is United States dollars Add required Foreign
Postage amount for each membership
Membership dues to EAA and its divisions are not tax deductible as charitable contributions
Copyright copy2 001 by Ihe EM Vintage Aircraft Association All rights reserved
VINTAGE AIRPLANE (ISSN 0091-6943) IPM 1482602 is pulgtished and owned exclusively by the EAA Vintage Aircraft Association of the Experimental Aircraft Association and is published monthly at EAA Avialion Center 3000 Poberezny Rd PO Box 3086 Oshkosh Wiscon~n 54903-3086 Periodicals Postage paid at Oshkosh Wisconsin 54901 and at addnional mailing offices POSTMASTER Send address changes to EM Vintage Aircraft Association PO Box 3086 Oshkosh WI 54903-3086 FOREIGN AND APO ADDRESSES - Please allow alleast two monlhs for delivery at VINTAGE AIRPLANE to foreign and APO addresses via surtace mail ADVERTISING - Vintage Aircraft Association does not guarantee or endorse any product offered through the advertising We invite constructive criticism and welcome any report of inferior merchandise obtalned through our advertising so that corrective measures can be taken EDITORIAL POLICY Readers are encouraged to submtt stories and photographs Policy apnions expressed in articles are solely those of the authors Respon~lgtlity for accuracy in reporting rests entirely with the contributor No renumeralion is made Material shoold be sent to Ednor VINTAGE AIRPLANE PO Box 3086 Oshkosh WI 54903-3086 Phone 9201426-4800
The words EM ULTRAliGHT FLY WITH THE FIRST TEAM SPORT AVIATION FOR THE LOVE OF FLYING and the logos of EM EAA INTERNATIONAL CONVENTION EM VINTAGE AIRCRAFT ASSOCIATION INTERNAshyTIONAL AEROBATIC CLUB WARBIRDS Of AMERICA are reg registered trademarllts THE EM SKY SHOPPE and logos of the EM AVIATION FOUNDATION EAA ULTRALIGHT CONVENTION and EAA AirYenture are tradeshymarks of the above associations and their use by any person other than the above association is strictly prohibited
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 31
Phi and Debbie Urich
Punta Gorda FL
Owners of Classic
Air Ventures Inc
Phil is an ATP with
18000 hours and flew
DC-6s for Northern Air
Cargo in Alaska
AUAis
approved
To become a
member of the
Vintage Aircraft
Association call
800middot843middot3612
Phil Debbie and Waco stand alongside the Ulrich s 1940 Waco UPF-7
Being in the ride business and
operating a 1940 Waco UPF-~ its not
always easy to obtain adequate
insurance coverage but AU A Inc has
provided exceptional service and saved
us hundreds of dollars The staff has
always gone that extra mile to help in
any way they can Thank you AUA
- Phil Ulrich
The best is affordable
Give AUA a call - its FREE
800-727-3823 Fly with the pros fly with AUA Inc
AUAs Exclusive EAA Vintage Aircraft Assoc Insurance Program
Lower liability and hull premiums
Medical payments included
Fleet discounts for multiple aircraft carrying all risk coverages
No hand-propping exclusion
No age penalty
No component parts endorsements
Discounts for claim-free renewals carrying all risk coverages
Remember Were Better Together
AVIATION UNLIMITED AGENCY
VINTAGE TRADER
Something to buy sell or trade
Classified Word Ads $550 per 10 words 180 words maximum with boldface lead-in on first line Classified Display Ads One column wide (2167 inches) by 1 2 or 3 inches high at $20 per inch Black and white only and no frequency discounts Advertising Closing Dates 10th ofsecond month prior to desired issue date (ie January 10 is the closing date for the March issue) V M reserves the right to reject any advertising in conflict with its policies Rates cover one insertion per issue Classified ads are not accepted via phone Payment must accompany order Word ads may be sent via fax (920426-4828) or e-mail (classadseaaorg) using credit card payment (VISA Or MasterCard) Include name on card complete address type of card card number and expiration date Make checks payable to EM Address advertising correshyspondence to EM Publications Classified Ad Manager Po Box 3086 Oshkosh WI 54903-3086
BABBITT BEARING SERVICE - rod bearings main bearings bushings master rods valves pisshyton rings Call us Toll Free 1800233-6934 e-mail ramremfgaolcom Web site wwwramenginecom VINTAGE ENGINE MACHINE WORKS N 604 FREYA ST SPOKANE WA 99202
Airplane T-Shirts 150 Different Airplanes Available WE PROBABLY HAVE YOUR AIRPLANE wwwairplanetshirtscom 1-800-645-7739
BIPLANE ODYSSEY - Flying the Stearman to every US State and Canadian Province in North America Hardcover 382 pages 16 pages color illustrations $25 Mountain Press 609-924-4002 wwwbiplaneodysseycom
THERES JUST NOTHING LIKE IT ON THE WEB wwwaviation-giftshopcom A Web Site With The Pilot In Mind (and those who love airplanes)
Wanted Brownback or similar brand radial engines complete or crankcaseshaft circa 1920sshy1930s even number of cylinders (six or eight) Write or call J D Hicks P O Box 159 Fisherville KY 40023 502-649-5833
For sale reluctantly Warner 145 amp 165 engines 1 each new OH and low time No tire kickers please Two Curtiss Reed props to go with above engines 1934 Aeronca C-3 Razorback with spare engine parts 1966 Helton Lark 95 Serial 8 Very rare PQ-8 certified Target Drone derivative Trishygear Culver Cadet See Juptners Vol 8-170 Total time AampE 845 hrs I just have too many toys and Im not getting any younger Find my name in the Officers amp Directors listing of Vintage and e-mail or call evenings E E Buck Hilbert
1940 Porterfield Collegiate LP-65 201 SMOH 2614 TTAF 910 inout always hangared 1980 Oshkosh Award Winner new annual $25900 254-412-0646
Color printto match your aircraft with N 11x14 ready to frame $25 + sampH E-mail jlgasserjunocom
Aircraft Exhaust Systems Jumping Branch WV 25969
800-227-5951
30 different engines for fitting
Antiques Warbirds General Aviation 304-466-1 724 Fax 304-466-0802
VlfiTAGL ALRO fAPgtRICJ LTD )111 1 ( 1tI ~
Dont compromise your restoration withmodern coverings finishtheiob correctly with authenticfabrics
Certificated Grade A callan Early aimaft callan
Imported aircraft Unen (beige and tan) German WWI Lozenge print fabric
Fabric tapes straight pinked and early American pinked Waxed linen lacing cord
Vinlage Aero Fabrics ltd 18 Journeys End Mendon VT 05701 lei 802-786middot0705 fox 802-786-2129 website wwwavclolhcom
EAAs 2002 Calendar Features the Best In Aviation Photography with
o 13 flight inspiring month s to schedule appointments and important events
o 12 x 24 format you ca n proudly
To O rder Call
1-800-843-3612 (Outside US amp Canada 920-426-5912)
Send your order by mai l to EAA Mail Orders
PO Box 3086 Oshkosh W I 54903-3086
Major credit cards accepted W I residents add 5 sales
tax Shipping and handling not included
The Lpoundader In Recreational Aviation
display in your home and office
o Full -color images ideal for framing
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VINTAGE AIRCRAFT
Membershi~ Services Directon_ Enjoy the many benefits ofBAA and the
ASSOCIATION OFFICERS
Presldenl Vlce-Presldenl Esple Butch Joyce George Daubner
PO Box 35584 2448 Lough Lane Greensboro NC 27425 Harllord WI 53027
336393-0344 262673-5885 wlndsockaolcom onllque2aolcom
TreasurerSecrelary Chanes w HarrisSteve Nessa 7215 Easl46lh SI2fXJI Highland Ave Tulsa OK 74147Albert Lea MN 5IflJ7
918622-8400flJ7373-1674 cwhhvsucom
DIRECTORS David Benne Jeannie Hili PO Box 1188 PO Box 328
Roseville CA 95678 Harvard IL 60033 916645-Q926 815943-7205
anllquerlnreachcom dinghaoowcnel
Robert C Bob Brauer Sieve Krog 9345 S Hoyne 1002 Healher Ln
Harllord WI 53027Ch7~~~~9~~m20 262966-7627 pholopllotaoicom sskrogaolcom
John Berendt labert D Bob Lumley 7645 Echo Polnl Rd 1265 Soulh I 241h SI
Connon fal~ MN 55009 Brookfield WI 53005 flJ7263-2414 262782-2633
fchidrconnectcom lumperexecpccom
Gene Morris I A Deacon Sireet John S Copeland
5936 Steve Court Roanoke TX 76262
North~~~t~01532 817491-9110 copelandljunocom n03captfioshnet
Dean Richardson Phil Coulson 1429 Kings Lynn Rd
28415 Springbrook Dr Lawton M149065 Sto~i~97as53589
616624-6490 darapnlalrecom rcou~16cscom
Geoff Robison Roger Gomoll 1521 E MacGregor Dr
New Haven IN 467743~~~~~~ 219493-4724 flJ7288-2810 chlefl025aoicom
rgomolhotmallcom SH Wes Schmid
Dale A Gustafson 2359 Leleber Aveooe 7724 Shady Hills Dr Wouwatosa WI 53213
Indlancpol~ IN 46278 4141771-1545 317293-4430 shschmidgdinetcom
DIRECTORS EMERITUS
Gene Chase EE Buck Hilbert 2159 Canton Rd PO Box 424
Oshkosh WI 54904 Unlon IL 60180 920231-fIJ02 815923-4591
buck7acmcnet
ADVISORS Alan Shackleton
PO Box 656 Sugar Grove IL 60554-0656
630466-4193 1033461772COfrlJSOOlecom
Steve Bender Dave Clark 815 Airport Road 635 Vestal Lane
Roancke TX 76262 PlalnfteldIN 46168 817491-4700 317839-4500
sstlOOemallmsncom davecpdlquestnet
BAA Vintage Aircraft Association ~ EAA Aviation Center PO Box 3086 Oshkosh WI 54903-3086
Phone (920) 426-4800 Fax (920) 426-4873 Web Site httpwwweaaorgand httpwwwairventureorg E-Mail vintage eaaorg
EAA and Division Membership Services 800-843-3612 FAX 920-426-6761 (800 AM -700 PM Monday-Friday CST) bull Newlrenew memberships EAA Divisions
(Vintage Aircraft Association lAC Warbirds) National Association of Flight Instructors (NAF)
bull Address changes bull Merchandise sal es bull Gift m emberships
Programs and Activities EAA AirVenture Fax-On-Demand Directory 732-885-6711
Auto Fuel STCs 920-426-4843 Buildrestore information 920-426-4821 Chapters locatingorganizing 920-426-4876 Education 920-426-6815
bull EAA Air Academy bull EAA Scholarships
Flight Advisors information 920-426-6522 Flight Instructor information 920-426-6801 Flying Start Program 920-426-6847 Library ServicesResearch _ 920-426-4848 Medical Questions 920-426-4821 Technical Counselors 920-426-4821 Young Eagles 920-426-4831
Benefits Aircraft Financing (Textron) 800-851-1367 AVA _ 800-727-3823 AVEMCO 800-638-8440 Term Life and Accidental 800-241-6103 Death Insurance (Harvey Watt amp Company)
Editorial Submitting articlephoto advertising information 920-426-4825 bull FAX 920-426-4828
EAA Aviation Foundation Artifact Donations 920-426-4877 Financial Support 800-236-1025
MEMBERSHIP INFORMATION EAA available for $50 per year (SPORT AVIATION magshy
Membership in the Experimental Aircraft Association azine not included) (Add $10 for Foreign Inc is $40 for one year including 12 issues of SPORT Postage) AVIATION Family membership is available for an addishytional $10 annually Junior Membership (under 19 WARBIRDS years of age) is available at $23 annually All major Current EAA members may join the EAA Warbirds of
credit cards accepted for membership (Add $16 for America Division and receive WARBIRDS magazine
Foreign Postage) for an additional $35 per year EAA Membership WARBIRDS magazine and one year membership in the Warbirds DivisionVINTAGE AIRCRAFT ASSOCIATION is available for $45 per year (SPORT AVIATION
Current EAA members may join the Vintage Aircraft magazine not included) (Add $7 for Foreign
Associaton and receive VINTAGE AIRPLANE magashyPostage)
zine for an additional $36 per year EAA Membership VINTAGE AIRPLANE magazine EAA EXPERIMENTERand one year membership in the EM Vintage Airshy
Curren t EAA members may receive EAAcraft Associat ion is available for $46 per year EXPERIMENTER magazine for an additional $20 (SPORT AVIATION magazine not included) (Add per year $7 for Foreign Postage) EAA Membership and EAA EXPERIMENTER magshyazine is available for $30 per year (SPORT
lAC AVIATION magazine not inciuded)(Add $8 for ForshyCurrent EM members may join the International eign Postage) Aerobatic Club Inc Division and receive SPORT AEROBATICS magazine for an additional $40 FOREIGN MEMBERSHIPS per year Please submit your remittance with a check or EAA Membership SPORT AEROBATICS magazine draft drawn on a United States bank payable in and one year membership in the lAC Division is United States dollars Add required Foreign
Postage amount for each membership
Membership dues to EAA and its divisions are not tax deductible as charitable contributions
Copyright copy2 001 by Ihe EM Vintage Aircraft Association All rights reserved
VINTAGE AIRPLANE (ISSN 0091-6943) IPM 1482602 is pulgtished and owned exclusively by the EAA Vintage Aircraft Association of the Experimental Aircraft Association and is published monthly at EAA Avialion Center 3000 Poberezny Rd PO Box 3086 Oshkosh Wiscon~n 54903-3086 Periodicals Postage paid at Oshkosh Wisconsin 54901 and at addnional mailing offices POSTMASTER Send address changes to EM Vintage Aircraft Association PO Box 3086 Oshkosh WI 54903-3086 FOREIGN AND APO ADDRESSES - Please allow alleast two monlhs for delivery at VINTAGE AIRPLANE to foreign and APO addresses via surtace mail ADVERTISING - Vintage Aircraft Association does not guarantee or endorse any product offered through the advertising We invite constructive criticism and welcome any report of inferior merchandise obtalned through our advertising so that corrective measures can be taken EDITORIAL POLICY Readers are encouraged to submtt stories and photographs Policy apnions expressed in articles are solely those of the authors Respon~lgtlity for accuracy in reporting rests entirely with the contributor No renumeralion is made Material shoold be sent to Ednor VINTAGE AIRPLANE PO Box 3086 Oshkosh WI 54903-3086 Phone 9201426-4800
The words EM ULTRAliGHT FLY WITH THE FIRST TEAM SPORT AVIATION FOR THE LOVE OF FLYING and the logos of EM EAA INTERNATIONAL CONVENTION EM VINTAGE AIRCRAFT ASSOCIATION INTERNAshyTIONAL AEROBATIC CLUB WARBIRDS Of AMERICA are reg registered trademarllts THE EM SKY SHOPPE and logos of the EM AVIATION FOUNDATION EAA ULTRALIGHT CONVENTION and EAA AirYenture are tradeshymarks of the above associations and their use by any person other than the above association is strictly prohibited
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 31
Phi and Debbie Urich
Punta Gorda FL
Owners of Classic
Air Ventures Inc
Phil is an ATP with
18000 hours and flew
DC-6s for Northern Air
Cargo in Alaska
AUAis
approved
To become a
member of the
Vintage Aircraft
Association call
800middot843middot3612
Phil Debbie and Waco stand alongside the Ulrich s 1940 Waco UPF-7
Being in the ride business and
operating a 1940 Waco UPF-~ its not
always easy to obtain adequate
insurance coverage but AU A Inc has
provided exceptional service and saved
us hundreds of dollars The staff has
always gone that extra mile to help in
any way they can Thank you AUA
- Phil Ulrich
The best is affordable
Give AUA a call - its FREE
800-727-3823 Fly with the pros fly with AUA Inc
AUAs Exclusive EAA Vintage Aircraft Assoc Insurance Program
Lower liability and hull premiums
Medical payments included
Fleet discounts for multiple aircraft carrying all risk coverages
No hand-propping exclusion
No age penalty
No component parts endorsements
Discounts for claim-free renewals carrying all risk coverages
Remember Were Better Together
AVIATION UNLIMITED AGENCY
VINTAGE AIRCRAFT
Membershi~ Services Directon_ Enjoy the many benefits ofBAA and the
ASSOCIATION OFFICERS
Presldenl Vlce-Presldenl Esple Butch Joyce George Daubner
PO Box 35584 2448 Lough Lane Greensboro NC 27425 Harllord WI 53027
336393-0344 262673-5885 wlndsockaolcom onllque2aolcom
TreasurerSecrelary Chanes w HarrisSteve Nessa 7215 Easl46lh SI2fXJI Highland Ave Tulsa OK 74147Albert Lea MN 5IflJ7
918622-8400flJ7373-1674 cwhhvsucom
DIRECTORS David Benne Jeannie Hili PO Box 1188 PO Box 328
Roseville CA 95678 Harvard IL 60033 916645-Q926 815943-7205
anllquerlnreachcom dinghaoowcnel
Robert C Bob Brauer Sieve Krog 9345 S Hoyne 1002 Healher Ln
Harllord WI 53027Ch7~~~~9~~m20 262966-7627 pholopllotaoicom sskrogaolcom
John Berendt labert D Bob Lumley 7645 Echo Polnl Rd 1265 Soulh I 241h SI
Connon fal~ MN 55009 Brookfield WI 53005 flJ7263-2414 262782-2633
fchidrconnectcom lumperexecpccom
Gene Morris I A Deacon Sireet John S Copeland
5936 Steve Court Roanoke TX 76262
North~~~t~01532 817491-9110 copelandljunocom n03captfioshnet
Dean Richardson Phil Coulson 1429 Kings Lynn Rd
28415 Springbrook Dr Lawton M149065 Sto~i~97as53589
616624-6490 darapnlalrecom rcou~16cscom
Geoff Robison Roger Gomoll 1521 E MacGregor Dr
New Haven IN 467743~~~~~~ 219493-4724 flJ7288-2810 chlefl025aoicom
rgomolhotmallcom SH Wes Schmid
Dale A Gustafson 2359 Leleber Aveooe 7724 Shady Hills Dr Wouwatosa WI 53213
Indlancpol~ IN 46278 4141771-1545 317293-4430 shschmidgdinetcom
DIRECTORS EMERITUS
Gene Chase EE Buck Hilbert 2159 Canton Rd PO Box 424
Oshkosh WI 54904 Unlon IL 60180 920231-fIJ02 815923-4591
buck7acmcnet
ADVISORS Alan Shackleton
PO Box 656 Sugar Grove IL 60554-0656
630466-4193 1033461772COfrlJSOOlecom
Steve Bender Dave Clark 815 Airport Road 635 Vestal Lane
Roancke TX 76262 PlalnfteldIN 46168 817491-4700 317839-4500
sstlOOemallmsncom davecpdlquestnet
BAA Vintage Aircraft Association ~ EAA Aviation Center PO Box 3086 Oshkosh WI 54903-3086
Phone (920) 426-4800 Fax (920) 426-4873 Web Site httpwwweaaorgand httpwwwairventureorg E-Mail vintage eaaorg
EAA and Division Membership Services 800-843-3612 FAX 920-426-6761 (800 AM -700 PM Monday-Friday CST) bull Newlrenew memberships EAA Divisions
(Vintage Aircraft Association lAC Warbirds) National Association of Flight Instructors (NAF)
bull Address changes bull Merchandise sal es bull Gift m emberships
Programs and Activities EAA AirVenture Fax-On-Demand Directory 732-885-6711
Auto Fuel STCs 920-426-4843 Buildrestore information 920-426-4821 Chapters locatingorganizing 920-426-4876 Education 920-426-6815
bull EAA Air Academy bull EAA Scholarships
Flight Advisors information 920-426-6522 Flight Instructor information 920-426-6801 Flying Start Program 920-426-6847 Library ServicesResearch _ 920-426-4848 Medical Questions 920-426-4821 Technical Counselors 920-426-4821 Young Eagles 920-426-4831
Benefits Aircraft Financing (Textron) 800-851-1367 AVA _ 800-727-3823 AVEMCO 800-638-8440 Term Life and Accidental 800-241-6103 Death Insurance (Harvey Watt amp Company)
Editorial Submitting articlephoto advertising information 920-426-4825 bull FAX 920-426-4828
EAA Aviation Foundation Artifact Donations 920-426-4877 Financial Support 800-236-1025
MEMBERSHIP INFORMATION EAA available for $50 per year (SPORT AVIATION magshy
Membership in the Experimental Aircraft Association azine not included) (Add $10 for Foreign Inc is $40 for one year including 12 issues of SPORT Postage) AVIATION Family membership is available for an addishytional $10 annually Junior Membership (under 19 WARBIRDS years of age) is available at $23 annually All major Current EAA members may join the EAA Warbirds of
credit cards accepted for membership (Add $16 for America Division and receive WARBIRDS magazine
Foreign Postage) for an additional $35 per year EAA Membership WARBIRDS magazine and one year membership in the Warbirds DivisionVINTAGE AIRCRAFT ASSOCIATION is available for $45 per year (SPORT AVIATION
Current EAA members may join the Vintage Aircraft magazine not included) (Add $7 for Foreign
Associaton and receive VINTAGE AIRPLANE magashyPostage)
zine for an additional $36 per year EAA Membership VINTAGE AIRPLANE magazine EAA EXPERIMENTERand one year membership in the EM Vintage Airshy
Curren t EAA members may receive EAAcraft Associat ion is available for $46 per year EXPERIMENTER magazine for an additional $20 (SPORT AVIATION magazine not included) (Add per year $7 for Foreign Postage) EAA Membership and EAA EXPERIMENTER magshyazine is available for $30 per year (SPORT
lAC AVIATION magazine not inciuded)(Add $8 for ForshyCurrent EM members may join the International eign Postage) Aerobatic Club Inc Division and receive SPORT AEROBATICS magazine for an additional $40 FOREIGN MEMBERSHIPS per year Please submit your remittance with a check or EAA Membership SPORT AEROBATICS magazine draft drawn on a United States bank payable in and one year membership in the lAC Division is United States dollars Add required Foreign
Postage amount for each membership
Membership dues to EAA and its divisions are not tax deductible as charitable contributions
Copyright copy2 001 by Ihe EM Vintage Aircraft Association All rights reserved
VINTAGE AIRPLANE (ISSN 0091-6943) IPM 1482602 is pulgtished and owned exclusively by the EAA Vintage Aircraft Association of the Experimental Aircraft Association and is published monthly at EAA Avialion Center 3000 Poberezny Rd PO Box 3086 Oshkosh Wiscon~n 54903-3086 Periodicals Postage paid at Oshkosh Wisconsin 54901 and at addnional mailing offices POSTMASTER Send address changes to EM Vintage Aircraft Association PO Box 3086 Oshkosh WI 54903-3086 FOREIGN AND APO ADDRESSES - Please allow alleast two monlhs for delivery at VINTAGE AIRPLANE to foreign and APO addresses via surtace mail ADVERTISING - Vintage Aircraft Association does not guarantee or endorse any product offered through the advertising We invite constructive criticism and welcome any report of inferior merchandise obtalned through our advertising so that corrective measures can be taken EDITORIAL POLICY Readers are encouraged to submtt stories and photographs Policy apnions expressed in articles are solely those of the authors Respon~lgtlity for accuracy in reporting rests entirely with the contributor No renumeralion is made Material shoold be sent to Ednor VINTAGE AIRPLANE PO Box 3086 Oshkosh WI 54903-3086 Phone 9201426-4800
The words EM ULTRAliGHT FLY WITH THE FIRST TEAM SPORT AVIATION FOR THE LOVE OF FLYING and the logos of EM EAA INTERNATIONAL CONVENTION EM VINTAGE AIRCRAFT ASSOCIATION INTERNAshyTIONAL AEROBATIC CLUB WARBIRDS Of AMERICA are reg registered trademarllts THE EM SKY SHOPPE and logos of the EM AVIATION FOUNDATION EAA ULTRALIGHT CONVENTION and EAA AirYenture are tradeshymarks of the above associations and their use by any person other than the above association is strictly prohibited
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 31
Phi and Debbie Urich
Punta Gorda FL
Owners of Classic
Air Ventures Inc
Phil is an ATP with
18000 hours and flew
DC-6s for Northern Air
Cargo in Alaska
AUAis
approved
To become a
member of the
Vintage Aircraft
Association call
800middot843middot3612
Phil Debbie and Waco stand alongside the Ulrich s 1940 Waco UPF-7
Being in the ride business and
operating a 1940 Waco UPF-~ its not
always easy to obtain adequate
insurance coverage but AU A Inc has
provided exceptional service and saved
us hundreds of dollars The staff has
always gone that extra mile to help in
any way they can Thank you AUA
- Phil Ulrich
The best is affordable
Give AUA a call - its FREE
800-727-3823 Fly with the pros fly with AUA Inc
AUAs Exclusive EAA Vintage Aircraft Assoc Insurance Program
Lower liability and hull premiums
Medical payments included
Fleet discounts for multiple aircraft carrying all risk coverages
No hand-propping exclusion
No age penalty
No component parts endorsements
Discounts for claim-free renewals carrying all risk coverages
Remember Were Better Together
AVIATION UNLIMITED AGENCY
Phi and Debbie Urich
Punta Gorda FL
Owners of Classic
Air Ventures Inc
Phil is an ATP with
18000 hours and flew
DC-6s for Northern Air
Cargo in Alaska
AUAis
approved
To become a
member of the
Vintage Aircraft
Association call
800middot843middot3612
Phil Debbie and Waco stand alongside the Ulrich s 1940 Waco UPF-7
Being in the ride business and
operating a 1940 Waco UPF-~ its not
always easy to obtain adequate
insurance coverage but AU A Inc has
provided exceptional service and saved
us hundreds of dollars The staff has
always gone that extra mile to help in
any way they can Thank you AUA
- Phil Ulrich
The best is affordable
Give AUA a call - its FREE
800-727-3823 Fly with the pros fly with AUA Inc
AUAs Exclusive EAA Vintage Aircraft Assoc Insurance Program
Lower liability and hull premiums
Medical payments included
Fleet discounts for multiple aircraft carrying all risk coverages
No hand-propping exclusion
No age penalty
No component parts endorsements
Discounts for claim-free renewals carrying all risk coverages
Remember Were Better Together
AVIATION UNLIMITED AGENCY