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Chris Mars VARNISH INTERVIEWS OCTOBER 2012

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An interview with the painter/musician/filmmaker, Chris Mars, about his fine artwork paintings

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Chris Mars

VARNISH INTERVIEWSOCTOBER 2012

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Self-taught artist Chris Mars seeks to create a voice for the voice-less; to offer love to the unloved and mercy to the condemned and banished through his work. With his highly developed technical craft, Mars conceptually challenges precon-ceived judgment; be it one of beauty, hideousness or the nature of truth.

Prior to gaining critical acclaim as a paint-er, Mars became internationally known in the music world as the drummer for the Replacements. He has added to these accomplishments with growing admirers in the filmmaking world for his animation and live-action shorts. Mars’ oil paintings are in the permanent collections of many museum collec-tions, and feature prominently in museum exhib-its throughout North America. In 2011 a selection of his film shorts was screened at New York’s Museum of Modern Art and his paintings were exhibited at Halle St. Pierre, Paris, France, where he will be returning in 2013. Mars lives and works in Minneapolis, Minnesota.

Chris graciously answered some questions for us about his work and process, revealing the complex layers of thought, craft and expression that go into his creative outpourings.

LEFT:Victus Mortuus (2010) Oil on Panel17 x 13”

RIGHT:Tuning the Super Field (2012) Oil on Panel20 x 28”

COVER: Level 5 (2012) Oil on Panel, 17 x 13”

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Self-taught artist Chris Mars seeks to create a voice for the voice-less; to offer love to the unloved and mercy to the condemned and banished through his work. With his highly developed technical craft, Mars conceptually challenges precon-ceived judgment; be it one of beauty, hideousness or the nature of truth.

Prior to gaining critical acclaim as a paint-er, Mars became internationally known in the music world as the drummer for the Replacements. He has added to these accomplishments with growing admirers in the filmmaking world for his animation and live-action shorts. Mars’ oil paintings are in the permanent collections of many museum collec-tions, and feature prominently in museum exhib-its throughout North America. In 2011 a selection of his film shorts was screened at New York’s Museum of Modern Art and his paintings were exhibited at Halle St. Pierre, Paris, France, where he will be returning in 2013. Mars lives and works in Minneapolis, Minnesota.

Chris graciously answered some questions for us about his work and process, revealing the complex layers of thought, craft and expression that go into his creative outpourings.

LEFT:Victus Mortuus (2010) Oil on Panel17 x 13”

RIGHT:Tuning the Super Field (2012) Oil on Panel20 x 28”

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What is your fine art background/education? I am a self-taught artist - no formal educa-tion. I have been drawn to--and creating--art throughout my life, though.

What made you transition from a successful music career to this other form of creativity?Before music, my primary means of creative expression was visual - drawing mostly. As a child I loved to look at paintings and drawings in books, especially volume “P” of the World Book Encyclopedia - “P” for paintings. As a little shit I actually won a couple of prizes from the local newspaper for my drawings of tur-keys and football players. I think the motiva-tion to paint and express myself visually was more natural to me from the beginning, thus here I am.

You have defined yourself as a “Social Expression-ist” in terms of the genre/style of painting you do. Would you explain what this means (to you)?I think of the formal definition of Expression as one’s inner feelings about oneself. I do express myself - my own feelings - but I also empathet-ically imagine how someone else might feel in certain situations. In this context, I often find myself imagining and expressing someone else’s feelings - in a social sense, but always along with my own feelings, inevitably.

Your paintings are very evocative of “Art Brut,” which has roots in early 20th century art made in psychiatric/asylum settings. Were you conscious of

P.O.G. (2010) Oil on Panel, 23 x 19”

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this when you began to develop your own style? Has it been a conscious choice to bring elements of folk art/art brut into your work? I don’t think I am particularly conscious of given styles or movements other than Expres-sionism and Surrealism in a general sense. Defining movements and approaches is some-thing I imagine happens in school, which I did attend. My approach is to paint in an unfil-tered sense - to spontaneously listen to and converse with the medium, how I feel inter-nally, and externally as it relates to the world at large. I’d consider my style inherent - it’s not based on other work, or theories. I paint the only way I am able to.

Your work is deeply layered visually, materially and symbolically. It’s like peeling an onion. For in-stance, the faces/heads of many of your portraits--and sometimes individuals in larger groupings-- are often split into two with approximately 1/3 of the split an independent “being” that completes/makes whole the majority figure. What does this fracture represent to you? In the examples of two of my paintings spe-cifically, “The Expense of Incestuous Relations” and “The Vanity Card”, the split face depicts a duality of personality in the latter, and a duality in analogy of social/political schisms in the former. It is also an enjoyable exercise in a purely aesthetic sense to split up a single face and see what the results are. “The split face depicts a duality of

personality... (or) a duality in analogy of social/political schisms...”

Equilbrium (2011) Oil on Panel, 13 x 11”

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There is a focus on the “grotesque” in your work. The subjects’ skin, hair, and/or bodies ap-pear to be diseased or, on the surface, falling apart. The skin color of your subjects’ is either fish-belly white, blue, green, or yellow, colors that usually indicate death and decay. Why such emphasis on exterior decay? Is there a special significance to each of these colors? Color-wise, my particular way of mixing paint tends to lean toward the traditional (for the most part). I like to work with colors found in nature. Along these lines, I have always enjoyed the aesthetic character and natural beauty of things in nature that are in various stages of transition - an old tree, rotting fruit, a turbulent sky, something changed by fire, stressed and wrinkled fabric, or leaf, chipped paint, rust. In a general way, I find beauty in the things that are a bit worn. At times these textures and sensibilities work their way into the flesh I paint as well.

LEFT: The Integration Party (2007)

Oil on Panel, 15 x 23”

BELOW:Prelude to the Test Tube Variety (2012)

Oil on Panel, 16 x 12”RIGHT:

To Vanquish Dogma (2010) Oil on Panel, 20 x 24”

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Distant cityscapes are huge components of many of your backgrounds. What does this represent? Why do you paint towns and cities that have a medieval or fairytale aspect to them instead of modern city-scapes?Also here, there is a certain attraction to the worn - in this case, old struc-tures. Emotionally, there is at times a medieval aesthetic that carries the feel of a less enlightened time - when op-pressive notions were more abundant. These feelings are in concert with my theme of investigating social oppres-sion today. Figures often stand at the outskirts of these cityscapes as ren-egades or outcasts, allowed to move through the edges of society, but not to stop or enter. Other times, there is a blighted feel to a neighborhood - houses, crooked and in disrepair, are analogous to a socially or physically war torn environment.

These land/cityscapes can easily been seen as dreamscape/nightmare type settings, an alternate universe. What is the inten-tion there?If there is a dreamy quality it has to do with my own expression of a place that is apart from the real world, a sur-realistic world where certain safeties allow me to wrestle with these sub-jects in the context of escape.

The surfaces of your paintings are very

RIGHT: To Vanquish Dogma (2010)

Oil on Panel, 20 x 24”

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worked… there are lots of layers, lots of tex-ture, lots of scratching and rubbing of paint. There is a feeling of decay but at the same time your brush strokes are meticulous. Can you talk about your process and the concept behind it? This comes from my tendency to juxta-pose or add beauty and order to what some may consider otherwise tainted, or disordered - another extension of how things - people, groups, countries - are sometimes wrongly judged by initial surface attributes.

You paint pre-framed panels and sometimes the frame itself. Talk about the importance of the frame for you in your process and for the finished product.For me, this lends an ability to see the complete composition as it unfolds, how it will fit with the frame - I started doing it this way, and it has become my usual method.

Do you use anything on your pieces aside from oil on panel? You have mentioned working with clay. The complexity of your surfaces sug-gest more is going on than just oil…After a fair amount of trial and error, I arrived at a certain texture in the gesso. The wash of the under painting is applied and rubbed. So for me, much of the flow and feel comes from building up on and over this base. Beyond this, it is a pretty straightforward approach to oil painting.

Telephone (2010) Oil on Panel, 21 x 23”

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“I have always enjoyed the aesthetic character and natural beauty of things in nature that are in

various stages of transition - an old tree, rotting fruit, a turbulent sky, something changed

by fire, stressed and wrinkled fabric, or leaf, chipped paint, rust.”

ABOVE: VM-4: The Plea (2005) Oil on Panel 26 x 15”

RIGHT: Dr. Glaxo (2011) Oil on Panel 11 x 11”

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It’s been said that you paint your subjects em-pathetically, as a way to engage the viewer into the subject matter. I’ve noticed that for the most part, at least one of the subjects in your works will be making eye contact with the viewer. And that subject has these EYES that are huge and luminous and, for lack of a better word, HUMAN, in contrast to the often grotesque bodies and settings you put them in. Can you speak to why you use grotesquer-ies and also the importance of “human” eyes?Grotesque is beauty. Beauty is grotesque. But eyes are the window, and I like to work them. I think of John Merrick, “The Elephant Man”, with his eyes that led to his inner self - one of kindness, patience, depth, and beauty that once known would transform anyone but a fool’s misconceptions about him based on his unusual physicality.

Talk about the numbers, letters and symbols that are scattered throughout your paintings. For in-stance in “VM-4: The Plea” and in “The Vanity Card” in which the #3 is prominent?VM-4 is for Victims of Myth, fourth in a series on war. The “3” in Vanity Card represents 1 for the whole figure, 2 and 3 for the figures that have split off from 1. Letters and numbers at times have direct meaning, as in a figure wearing a number to depict, for example, a “cog” status. Other times I use them merely for aesthetic purposes.

Is there anything you would like to add?Just that I enjoyed these questions and I ap-preciate your time and interest in my work! Thank you.

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LEFT: Mrs. Lanterman’s Daughter (2011) Oil on Panel 14 x 11” RIGHT: The Attic (2011) Oil on Panel 23 x 27”

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VARNISH INTERVIEWS:Chris Mars

October 2012

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