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Who are Sequestration’smost vulnerable?

Vol. 13, No. 3 U.S. Army Watervliet Arsenal, New York March 31, 2013

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Cover photo is Brian Martino, left, and Joshua Feldman.

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Mark F. MigaleddiCommanding

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The last two months have challenged our professionalism, patience, and mental agility as we learned to live in the new environment with sequestered budget cuts and furloughs. I am proud of how you have handled yourselves. The last minute news last week of a delay in issuing furlough notices is a perfect example. But was it a reprieve? Don’t count on it says a Pentagon spokesperson. Last week, Congress passed a Continuing Resolution budget that has new guidance for how the Defense Department should implement the $46 billion in cuts to this year’s budget. DOD leaders say they need about two weeks to work through the revised guidance before we can issue furlough notices. I know that I am speaking to the choir when I say this delay does little to lessen the stress that many of you have in regards to Sequestration or what the Department of Defense calls “fiscal uncertainty.” I can tell you that this delay has not stopped the command from planning for the potential effects of furloughs and neither should you. Your senior leaders and I are working through various scenarios, literally investing hundreds of hours of planning time just trying to mitigate the effects of furloughs on our mission. Many of you have shared your stories with me regarding furloughs. For some, you have already canceled summer vacation plans. For others, you are concerned about losing your house or your apartment. The bottom line is that furloughs will negatively effect the Arsenal and every worker. I am trying to get the Arsenal exempt from issuing furlough notices because as you know the Arsenal receives its funding through our sales and not from Congress. But there is a

sense at the Pentagon that the pain of furloughs should be equally shared throughout DOD. There are other consequences to this fiscal uncertainty that are playing out. We have cut or downsized several upcoming community events. Based upon action taken by the Army and feedback from you, we are reducing our plans for our 200th Anniversary. The Department of the Army has place a tight restriction on our participation in community events. I am also reducing the number of cell phones and BlackBerry’s on low usage users. Additionally, we are considering moving many of our planned maintenance projects for such things as upgrading our infrastructure and capital investments for new machines that are not under contract to a later date. There is a lot that we still don’t know and that we don’t have any control over. But what we do have control over we must do so with 100 percent commitment. For those orders and projects that we can execute, we must do with such intensity and purpose that our quality remains high and our commitment to making shipments on time is unblemished. We have 200 years of riding the ebbs and flows of defense budgets and we will weather through this storm, too. You are too good to lose focus now. After all, I know that you have tradition, history, and a sense of pride that will allow us to make mission, on time.

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Home to Sequestration’s Most Vulnerable

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By John B. Snyder

First year apprentices, Tim Lever, left, and Joshua Feldman check the tolerances one more time for the finish turning of a 60mm mortar tube. Cover photo is Brian Martino, left, and Joshua Feldman.

Prior to March 1, the dire consequences of Sequestra-tion, or what the Department of Defense calls “fiscal uncer-tainty,” were hyped from the highest offices of the land. So it may have been a shock to some that America didn’t fall off a cliff as we rolled into March. After all, the stock market continued to set new records, Americans still flocked to spring break resorts, and national retail sales continued to grow. For most Americans, life went on without so much as a second glance at the Con-gressional and White House budget battles that have put our nation into such a precarious position. But the negative effects of Sequestration are slowly and quietly gaining momentum, as if a snake was uncoiling from its rest. And just like a snake, once it uncoils the pain could be irreversible. At a small Army post in upstate New York, is the Watervliet Arsenal. Situated on just 143 acres, is America’s oldest continuously-operated Arsenal having supplied hard-ware to the U.S. military since 1813. Last January, the Arsenal’s importance to the Army was finally recognized when Secretary of the Army John McHugh designated the Arsenal as a Center of Industrial

and Technical Excellence for cannon and mortar manufac-turing. Essentially saying, there is no other manufacturer in DOD that has the Arsenal’s capability to manufacture can-nons and mortars. The Arsenal workforce of 600 federal employees is not the highly paid federal workforce that one might find in the Washington, D.C., Beltway. They are true middle class Americans whose average hourly pay is less than $28. For this Army manufacturer, the effects of Sequestration have already imparted a huge financial toll, as well as a tax on the mental well being of the workforce. And, the Arse-nal hasn’t even started to furlough its employees, which is a requirement of Sequestration. Hundreds of hours of prime time have already been di-verted from the Arsenal manufacturing mission to assess, plan, coordinate, and to respond to higher headquarters all in the name of fiscal uncertainty. That diversion of labor still continues at an exceptional high rate as the Arsenal fights hard to take care of its workforce, while trying to mitigate the slippage of manufacturing schedules. There have always been challenges throughout the Army, as well as at the Arsenal, to balance the notion of

stress.” Brian Martino joined Feldman in this year’s freshman apprentice class. Martino came to the Arsenal with an extensive work history that includes 15 years of manufacturing experience. Despite that experience, he said he doesn’t mind starting at the bottom floor because he was just happy to get a job with a great future after being unemployed for some time. “When I found out that I was selected for the apprentice program, I quickly moved from Connecticut into an apart-ment that is close to the post,” Martino said. “I signed a two-year lease based on what my pay would be and now,

with a potential loss of 20 percent of my pay, I am worried about paying my rent.” Martino said he has already cut back by stopping his contributions to his 401(k) account and by not having cable TV in his apartment. “I don’t have anything else to cut except my food bill,” Martino added. Michael Smith, who is an ex-pediter at the Arsenal, is use to tough times. He is a former Army Ranger who retired after 20 years of deployments that caused him to miss much of his family life. He has been at the Arsenal since last November. Smith said he thought life would be different after he left active duty. “I left the Army because I wanted to spend more time with my family,” Smith said. “Due to the upcoming furlough and the loss of pay that goes with it, I can’t afford to move my wife here.” Smith said he and his wife have

already cut back by not eating out, not visiting each other as much, and by not being able to get a home or an apart-ment near the post. He lives in an economy hotel because he is maintaining two households until he gets situated. His wife currently lives in Plattsburgh, N.Y. Feldman, Martino, and Smith are the Arsenal faces to Sequestration. And, as many in the Arsenal workforce, they are cutting back and even eliminating some of the basics of life, such as giving one’s spouse or child a kiss goodnight. They are stressed but remain proud. Although they say they will stick it out, one wonders if they can afford to. After all, federal pay has been frozen for nearly three years and now federal employees must take a 20 percent pay cut on top of it.

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Photo by John B. SnyderArsenal expediter Mike Smith checking his inventory of raw material that will soon become handles for the 60mm mortar system.

Sequestration cont.“taking care of the troops” with “mission accomplishment.” But unless something changes soon, both will suffer at Watervliet. Two things that are the most pressing on the minds of the Arsenal workforce: making mission and how to survive the devastating effects to their personal lives that will come from being furloughed. The Arsenal has 200 years of pride of providing the war fighter with the right products, at the right time, and at the right place. It cannot be understated that missing production sched-ules wears on the morale of this small workforce because this will happen on their watch. The fact that they have no control over the outcome of this fiscal uncertainty does not matter. Making mission is a matter of pride, history, and an Arsenal tradition. So, who are the most vulner-able? Joshua Feldman is a first-year apprentice who began his training last August. He has served in New York’s Army National Guard and so, the Army was in his soul. Feldman speaks highly of his Army service and about how proud he was, and still is, when he was one of the 14 selected for an Arsenal apprenticeship. Nearly 470 applied for those coveted 14 slots. “This was my dream job,” Feldman said. “I’m a blue collar worker at heart and I have always loved to work with my hands.” He said that when he landed the job at the Arsenal, he thought this was it. After years of searching for his dream job, now he could finally settle down and raise a family. Or so he thought. He and his girlfriend bought a house, got engaged, and will have a baby in the near future. Feldman said had he known that he would lose up to 20 percent of his pay this year he would not have bought his house or financed his furniture. “I thought I had done everything right,” Feldman said. “With the potential to lose nearly $3,000 of my pay over the next six months has caused a significant amount of

Top: First-year machin-ist apprentice Cale Kneer preparing a 105mm breech block for drilling at the Watervliet Arsenal. Throughout the machine shops, it is common to see first-year apprentices working on critical pieces of equipment for U.S. troops.

Left: Arsenal machinist Francis “Frank” Taylor is grinding rails on a 105mm breech block.

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By John B. Snyder

Watervliet’s upgrade will reduce risk to Artillerymen, logistical footprint

Photos by John B. Snyder

The Arsenal announced this month that it has com-pleted its first shipment of 19 M20A1 Breech Block Kits as part of a $22.6 million contract for the U.S. Army to upgrade the M119A2 105mm howitzer. “This order is one of the largest contracts the Arsenal has and it involves more than 61,000 hours of direct la-bor,” said George Roach, the Arsenal program manager for this order. “This first shipment will end up in the hands of artillerymen at Fort Bragg, N.C.” The scope of this order is to manufacture more than 650 upgrade kits with monthly shipments of the kits to continue through August 2015, said Roach. “Although the order was received in 2011, it took a significant amount of lead time to purchase raw material, design fix-tures and gauges, and for the customer to conduct testing prior to going into full production,” said Roach. “This was no easy project and it took the entire Arsenal, from contracting to our friends at the Army’s Benét Laboratories, to make this shipment on time.” Why a redesign? In 1987, an agreement was reached with the British Royal Ordnance Factories to produce the M119 howitzer to replace the M102 howitzer. It entered service with the U.S. Army’s 7th Infantry Division in December 1989. Several years ago, Benét Labs discovered a wear-driven, safety-related flaw in the British design, albeit one that did not put Soldiers at immediate risk. This finding was significant enough, however, to effect a change to the technical manual that required artillery crewmen to verify and measure the firing pin protrusion before every live firing, said Jeanne Brooks, a Benét Labs mechanical engineer. The breech block improvements under this new modi-

fication will reduce the number of breech block assembly parts by 30 percent, which reduces the logistical footprint and maintenance time. Additionally, the new breech block was optimized for wear resistance, which directly im-proves the historical firing pin protrusion issues we set out to correct, Brooks said. The M20A1 breech blocks carry the firing mechanism and close the breech end of a 105mm cannon when firing. They are, as are the cannon tubes, high-pressure vessels that are machined to extremely tight tolerances that are measured in thousandths of an inch. Although the Arsenal’s business model has changed in recent years from a focus on cannon production to the production of mortars, non-tube manufacturing, such as with the M20A1 breech blocks, also helps the Arsenal to maintain a steady workload, said Roach.

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A captured British-made smoothbore gun from the War of 1812 is on exhibit in the Arsenal museum. This gun fired upon American forces during a May 1813 battle for Fort George. The British fort, located on the eastern end of Lake Ontario along the Niagara River, was bombarded into submission by guns fired from the nearby American Fort Niagara in western New York, as well as from several U.S. naval vessels. What makes this gun so unusual is that it bears both the original gun identification impressions and markings made after the 1813 battle. The 2,400-pound, seven-foot long bronze gun is a muzzle loading weapon manufactured to fire 12-pound shot. Unlike most artifacts owned by museums, this gun has significant markings on it forever dating critical times in the life of the weapon. At the breech end where the knob or “Cascabel” is located are the words: “W. Bowen Fecit 1760.” William Bowen was the master British founder who oversaw the cannon’s mold-ing and casting in 1760. A few inches away, an inscription added by the Americans after 1813, reads; “Taken at Fort George U C May 27, 1813.” The “U C” is an abbreviation for Upper Canada. Just above the American inscription is a stylized version of the British royal coat of arms. The words seen inside a band is the royal motto, in French, saying: “Honi Soit Qui Mal y Pense.” Translation: evil to him who evil thinks. Beneath that line is the official motto of British monarchy, first adopted in the 15th century, and written in French read-ing: “Dieu et mon Droit.” Translation: By God and my right.

A few inches below the gun’s muzzle is an elaborate sec-ond seal embedded into the gun. It is the Major General of Ordnance Coat of Arms. Surrounding the design of a lion and crown are the words “Tria Juncta in Uno.” Translation: three things joined into one. The “Second War for Independence” occurred because of the impressments of hundreds of American sailors by the British navy. Also, for years belligerent European nations had been challenging the sovereignty of the newly founded United States; American right to expand westward was being challenged; and the right for the U.S. to practice free trade. Unofficially, vocal and hawkish members of Congress desired to see Britain lose their Canadian colony to lessen Brittish influence in North America, as well as to stop the Brittish roadblock to American westward expansion. The Battle for Fort George was the beginning of the American assault on the Upper Canadian region of Ontario, with the ultimate goal being the capture of Toronto, the capital of Upper Canada. On the morning of May 25, 1813, the American guns at Fort Niagara and several U.S. Naval vessels began a bombardment on Fort George. Dozens of artillery guns assaulted the fort, shattering buildings and setting them on fire. After hours of concentrated artillery assault, the fort was in ruins, forcing the soldiers (British, Canadian and various Native warriors) to evacuate to the nearby plains. Before dawn of May 27th, more than 6,000 American Soldiers landed near Fort George and advanced westward. A small group of British soldiers located outside the fort mounted a brief defense of their positions but were soon overwhelmed by the 10 to 1 American advantage in soldiers.

There’s gold, nope, bronze treasurelocated here

This sketch of Fort George in 1813, obviously before it was destroyed by U.S. forces, is courtesy of Canada’s Library and Archives. The inset photo is a picture of the gun as displayed in the Arsenal museum.

By Mark Koziol

The Watervliet Ar-senal announced this week that it is testing two new high-tech ma-chines that when fully operational in about two weeks will have the potential to reduce machining on select components by up to 60 percent, according to Paul Nieckarz, an Arsenal manufacturing foreman. “These two ma-chines are the first delivery of a nearly $4 million upgrade to the Arsenal’s minor components manufacturing operation,” Nieckarz said. “Each machine replaces 40-year-old technology that was required to machine precision components for 155mm howitzers and mortar systems.” The machines will not only enhance the Arsenal’s capability to expand its product line, they will also en-hance the Arsenal’s capacity to meet the high demands of urgent orders for U.S. troops, Nieckarz said. “With this new capability, we are moving from a machine that could only machine on one axis before a new set up was required to one that can machine on nine different axes,” Nieckarz explained. “For example, a two-hour process to machine an 81mm base cap went from 120 minutes to about 24 minutes, a savings of about 60 percent.” Initial feedback from two Arsenal machinists who are training on the new machines bode well for the future of this new technology. “Although there is a lot to learn about these machines, what I have seen so far excites me to think about the machining possibilities that we might achieve once these machines are fully operational,” said Joey Zwack, an Arsenal machinist. Twenty-year machinist Tom Ostrander echoed Zwack’s comments by saying, “I have been here a long time and I never thought I would be able to run any machine as fast or as technologically advanced as these new ma-chines. These machines will make a huge difference in our ability to move product through quicker.” These Mori Seiki machines not only can do precision cuts down to one micron, which is one millionth of a

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New capability will speed machining,

delivery to warfightersBy John B. Snyder

Top: Arsenal Foreman Paul Nieckarz checking out the new Mori Seiki machine that is cur-rently being prepared for production.

Left: Arsenal machinist Joey Zwack, left, is hold-ing a 81mm base cap that was just machined in less than 30 minutes. Meanwhile, Harvey Downs, Boldt Machinery Inc., is working through the programming on the new machine.

Story continues on page 8, See Machines

Photos by John B. Snyder

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Machines cont.

Arsenal History TriviaContracting Thoughts

In 1816, just one year after the end of the War of 1812, Arsenal Commander Maj. James Dalliba was in a quandary. For several years, Congress and the U.S. Army had not provided funding for the Arsenal despite the fact that Dalliba was trying to improve the Arsenal. With great frustration, he provided a solution for the building of the Arsenal without government funds. “Purchase materials wanted on cred-it by promising payment when the gov-ernment furnishes you with the means, but don’t make yourself personally re-sponsible for the money.” Maybe today’s commander should consider such means ...

meter, but they can do so faster and with improved quality control. At the end of the day, the Arsenal will improve its quality and its ability to machine parts quicker. These latest two pieces of equipment are but two of five major equipment buys as part of a nearly $4 million contract to improve machining on minor components for weapon systems. Because the Arsenal cannot build new buildings to improve its capability, it must therefore transform underutilized space and aging machinery to remain competitive in a tough defense manufacturing market. Machine by machine, square foot by square foot, the Arsenal is, through a program called the Capital Investment Program, methodically opening up floor space for high-tech manufacturing.

Top: One of two Mori Seiki machines that were being installed in March.

Left: Twenty-year Ar-senal machinist Tom Ostrander is check-ing the tolerances on the new high-tech machine.

Photos by John B. Snyder

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CPAC - Planning for furloughCivilian Personnel Advisory Center

For some, sequestration and the resulting furloughs will cause a significant financial hardship. In an effort to provide employees with as many available options as possible, CPAC has compiled the fol-lowing resources to help you plan and make the best financial decisions for your individual situation. Please note that CPAC does not suggest or encourage any of the options below. These have been provided as a means of educating the workforce on available options so that employees can make the best decisions for their individual circumstances.

BUDGET - A Plan for Your Paycheck

Budgeting is a plan or a road map of how you will reach your financial goal. Just as you would not take a vacation without first doing some planning – you should also not spend your paycheck before you plan for your expenses. To get started on creating your budget:

• Know how much you spend each month, as well as your income. If you are married, include your spouse in creating this budget.• Prioritize your expenses by creating a list, starting with the most important and working your way down to the least.• Break down the costs of each expense. Be realistic when doing this. If you choose too small of an amount for the expense, you may quickly overspend that category and become discouraged when you don't stay within your budget.• Stick with the allotted amounts for each category.

Once you have created your budget and start using it the first month, don't be dismayed if you have to readjust some of the amounts. It is easy to forget seasonal expenses like your kid's summer recreational activities, school enrollment expenses, and so on. If you want more information on creating a budget, here are some helpful web-sites:

http://www.mymoney.gov/category/topic1/budgeting-worksheets.html http://www.360financialliteracy.org

TSP – Furlough Impacts and Options

If you are currently contributing a percentage to your TSP, your contributions will decrease in direct proportion to the reduction in your basic pay; simply stated, if your income decreases, your TSP contributions will as well. Therefore, you may find that lowering your contribution percentage is not necessary. However, if you find that you would like to decrease the percentage further, you can do so at any time using the EBIS system. You can also increase it at any time using the same system.

If you are currently making TSP contributions based on a dollar amount, that dollar amount will not automatically decrease with your reduction in pay. You may want to revisit whether that amount is still appropriate given the ex-pected impact of your furlough.

If you are a FERS participant, also keep in mind that any reduction in your basic pay will impact your Agency Auto-matic (1%) and Agency Matching Contributions proportionally.

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Terminating your TSP contributionsIf you are making traditional contributions, remember that those contributions are subtracted from your pay before tax. Be aware that stopping this type of contribution could potentially increase your adjusted gross income and, as a result, your income tax liability. You may want to check into this further when making a decision to reduce your contributions.

Financial hardship withdrawalAnother alternative for accessing your TSP funds, should you face financial hardship as a result of being furloughed, is a TSP hardship withdrawal. Before you consider this, keep in mind a few things:• If you take a hardship withdrawal, you will not be able to make any TSP contributions for 6 months after having received your funds.• You may withdraw only your contributions and the earnings associated with them, and the total amount cannot exceed your financial hardship.• You must pay income tax on the taxable portion of any withdrawal, and you may also be subject to a 10% early withdrawal penalty tax.

TSP LoansTaking a TSP loan allows you to borrow money from your TSP account and repay that amount for the loan amount plus in-terest. You can continue to accrue earnings on the money you borrowed after you pay it back. Before you request a loan, you should know the following:

• Loan payments are made by payroll deduction. If, because of a furlough, you don’t earn enough per pay period for your agency to deduct the required payment, you will be responsible for keeping your payments up-to-date so that you don’t risk a taxable distribution. (Properly repaid TSP loans are not subject to income taxes or penalties.)• You can continue to contribute to your TSP account and, if eligible, receive Agency Matching Contributions.• If you already have an outstanding loan when you get furloughed, you need to make sure that you stay up-to-date on your loan payments.

For more information on TSP, please visit: https://www.tsp.gov/index.shtml

Easter Egg Party

March 23rd

CPAC cont.

Emily

Sophia & Dad

Shawn & Robert

Mason

Photos by John B. Snyder

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“VSA A3 from TPOC A3” A multimillion dollar acronym

I bet that headline really grabs your attention. Yes, more Army acronyms, but these are actually Lean acronyms.

TPOC stands for Transformation Plan of Care. This docu-ment is the guide for our Lean activities. A team led by Arsenal Commander Col. Mark Migaleddi put together the original document and reviews it every month to make sure we are carrying out the planned actions and achieving the planned goals.

The TPOC comes from the Arsenal’s Strategic Plan. You can see our TPOC status on the wall in the hallway outside Col. Migaleddi’s office in Building 10 – it’s called the TPOC Mission Control Center (MCC). Take a look some-time.

VSA stands for Value Stream Analysis. A value stream is the sequence of value adding steps from start to finish for processing everything we produce – from a cannon tube to a material delivery to an accounting report. A value stream can be high level (“manufacturing” or “enterprise”) or lower level (M20 Breech Block or a maintenance process). In essence, a TPOC is an enterprise (all of WVA) VSA. VSA’s also have a MCC and team meetings to track prog-ress and ensure goals are achieved.

A3’s are the documents we use during Lean events to both guide the event process and record (and track) the results. One page contains everything relevant to the event. There are nine boxes that guide a team through the event, step-by-step. You can use an A3 for a TPOC, VSA, Rapid Im-provement Event or a Just Do It event.

But, back to the headline. One of the two original VSA’s from our TPOC analyzed the M9 Base Plate value stream. We had a series of Lean events originating from the VSA and much of the processing was in the Weld Shop. Al-though those guys did a great job, the events truly touched several other processes such as receiving and receiving inspection.

Bottom line: When comparing the original process time to the process time clocked out by the operators, the Arsenal saved $1,895,040 manufacturing 561 units of the M9 Base Plate. Wow!

I have no illusions that this was entirely due to Lean. Greg Marcklinger and Greg Stone and their team in the Weld Shop had great ideas for improvement before Lean ever got there. But still…wow! So, jump on board - and bring your great ideas.

By Mark Ripley

Lean Manufacturing:

Production area before Lean 6S Production area after Lean 6S

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Arsenal’s Salvo Survey Just as surveyors of old, the Arsenal public affairs officer recently did some surveying work to determine if this newsletter was giving the workforce what it needed. Eight questions were asked to determine if the Salvo was providing the right content, in the right format, and at the right time. Eighty-two folks responded. And, no, the above picture is not of the public affairs officer ... this guy looks younger and not as much traveled. Here are the top results: Q1: Do you read the Salvo and if so, how often? -79% said yes, each month. -20% said yes, every other month.Q2: If you read the Salvo, how do you access it? -81% said they access it on the common drive. -10% said by Facebook.Q3: What is the preferred way to get the Salvo? -44% said by PDF in an email. -42% said by a link in an email.Q4: What do you like most about the Salvo (open-ended question)? -It keeps us current on what is going on at the Arsenal. -Pictures, positive attitudes, and the well-written stories. -The variety of stories and updates.Q5: What recommendations do you have to improve the Salvo (open-ended question)? -78% said they like it as is. -Others said to bring back the Face of Strength page, add a classified section, and more updates on workload.Q6: How long have you worked at the Arsenal (demographic question)? -54% have less than 10 years at the Arsenal. -29% have more than 21 years at the Arsenal. -13% have between 11-20 years at the Arsenal.Q7: How frequently would you like to receive the Salvo? -90% said they want to get it every month. Q8: Is the current format easy to read? -94% said yes.

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Many thanks to those who participated in the survey!