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What Are We Doing Here?

Rachel Slaybaugh

ARPA-E WorkshopMay 15, 2019

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Outline‣ Motivation of this topic area:

– Forward-looking design of advanced reactor operations and maintenance (O&M)

– O&M cost reduction by > 5x

‣ How ARPA-E workshops work

‣Why the agenda is the way it is

‣ Questions

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But First: Thanks to a Great Team!

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Joel Fetter, T2M Curt Nehrkorn, Tech SETA

Geoffrey Short, Tech SETA

Lakshana Huddar,Fellow

Victoria Chernow,Fellow

Zara L’Heureux,Fellow

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But First: Thanks to a Great Team!

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Colleen Nehl, Tech SETA

Caitlin Zoetis,Proj. Manag. SETA

Danielle Weingarten,Meeting Organizer

Nancy Hicks,Meeting Organizer

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U.S. Reactors are Shutting Down

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Source: Bloomberg New Energy Finance, Reactors in the Red: Margins for U.S. Nukes. May 15, 2018

• 5 reactors closed in the last 5 years

• 14 more scheduled to close by 2025

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But We Need Reactors!

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‣ Review of 40 studies: having

firm zero carbon power

available reduces costs and

risks in achieving a zero carbon

grid, especially as reductions

move > 50%

‣ Nuclear is a strong (the

strongest?) candidate

‣ Advanced Nuclear can solve

challenges and potentially

provide process heat

‣ There are additional geopolitical

motivations

Jenkins et al., Getting to Zero Carbon Emissions in the Electric Power Sector, Joule (2018),

https://doi.org/ 10.1016/j.joule.2018.11.013

https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/news/iaea-launches-new-version-of-

advanced-reactors-database

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Why Are They Shutting Down? O&M is Too High

6Table: https://www.nei.org/CorporateSite/media/filefolder/resources/reports-and-briefs/nuclear-costs-context-201810.pdfPie chart: https://www-pub.iaea.org/MTCD/Publications/PDF/te_1052_prn.pdf

‣ Table in 2017 $/MWh

‣ Minimal staffing across best performing plants: ~750 FTEs

‣ Operations and Maintenance are the largest addressable categories

Common Processes

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Category Fuel Capital Operating TotalAll U.S. 6.44 6.64 20.43 33.50Single-Unit 6.42 8.92 27.32 42.67Multi-Unit 6.44 5.99 18.46 30.89

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What about Gen III+ and Advanced?

7https://www.eia.gov/outlooks/aeo/pdf/electricity_generation.pdf, https://www.innovationreform.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Advanced-Nuclear-Reactors-Cost-Study.pdf

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Key Points + Caveat

8http://energy.mit.edu/research/future-nuclear-energy-carbon-constrained-world/, https://www.eia.gov/outlooks/aeo/pdf/electricity_generation.pdf, https://www.innovationreform.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Advanced-Nuclear-Reactors-Cost-Study.pdf

‣ For Gen III+, fixed O&M is < 1/5th of LCOE> 2/3rd is capital cost recovery

‣ Current studies indicate Advanced Reactors look pretty similar to Gen III+ in cost structure

Though O&M might be more like 1/3rd of LCOE

‣ HOWEVER, little concrete detail for advanced O&M‣ People have focused on capital and schedule reduction‣ Even though ARs will need different technologies, and

there’s tremendous opportunity in starting from scratch

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What Is the Current State of Reactor O&M?

‣ Deterministic– Standards-based– Hesitation to adopt new

technologies or change approach

– Driven almost exclusively by physics-based models

From a survey of 350 nuclear industry experts as reported inMarket Report: the future of nuclear digitalization (Nuclear Energy Insider, 2017)

‣ Human-work driven (e.g., physically inspect items, take readings, etc.)‣ Data collection is difficult and use is inefficient

Mark Bugnaski / Kalamazoo Gazette

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What Might “Optimal Operations” Mean?

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‣ Lower direct personnel costs‣ Eliminate radiation to workers‣ Reduce cost / amount of maintenance‣ Reduce risk of human error‣ Increase operational excellence‣ Increase margin / safety envelope

However,‣ Increase cost of sensors / equipment / software?‣ Shift problems and cost from one place to another?‣ Increase need for certain highly specialized staff?‣ How do we get the relevant innovators to think about nuclear?

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Why Is Now the Time To Sort This Out?

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‣ The AR fleet is only just starting to think about this problem(Any cited improvement in O&M comes from inherent plant safety, not adoption of new O&M tech)‣ But thinking now about what will be needed is essential

https://www.innovationreform.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Advanced-Nuclear-Reactors-Cost-Study.pdf , https://www.sensorsmag.com/components/three-sensor-types-drive-autonomous-vehicles

‣We need to know the tech gaps so we can fill them in time‣We need to know

how to build the plants‣We want to avoid

redesign / retrofitting

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How Do ARPA-E Workshops Work?Goals: ARPA-E’s workshops have two main goals1. We gain information and feedback from you on our

potential new program idea 2. You start thinking about the possible program so you’ll be

ready to apply if we should have a program in this area

We’ll go over a bunch of content to give you context for the technology we’re interested in

We’ll have discussion sessions where we can hash out the what’s what and brainstorm what matters

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You Said Content? What Are All These Talks?

‣ You’ll notice we have a bunch of talks designed to cover the space we think might be relevant for a future program in this area:

– Current and Advanced reactor operations and monitoring– Autonomy and Automation– Asset Performance Management (e.g., selective

controlling of data, extrapolative forecasting, and predictive maintenance)

‣ The first two breakouts will be to – Get a handle on the state of the art– Talk about where the gaps and biggest needs are

‣ Then we’ll spend tomorrow talking about what a program might look like

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What is Possible Now That Wasn’t Before?

‣ From 1985: “Future nuclear power plants are projected to be highly modularized, with the possibility of several plants being operated from one control room. AI-based diagnostics and control systems can make this possible by taking over the mundane day to day oversight tasks that the operators must perform to keep the plant running.”

14U.S. Department of Energy Assistant Secretary for Nuclear Energy Technology Transfer Artificial Intelligence Task Team. “Artificial Intelligence and Nuclear Power”. June, 1985, p. 10

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Additional Context‣ Tomorrow we’ll hear from the Office of Nuclear Energy about

any related initiatives – they are a critical partner in taking anything we do further

‣ Feel free to send me any ideas after the workshop.

RULE: No one is allowed to say “we can’t do that because of regulations”

1. The regulations for advanced reactors aren’t written yet2. We need to start by dreaming as big as we can,

then refining the idea3. I brought the NRC here to keep you in check on this point

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We’re Starting From This Frame

Overall goals:1. Have a clear understanding of the technical

requirements for O&M for several Advanced Reactors2. Reduce fixed O&M cost from ~13 $/MWh in the current

fleet to ~3 $/MWh in the advanced fleet

Most likely path:1. Translate existing technologies to advanced reactor

designs and develop technologies to fill in the gaps 2. Reduce total staffing level from ~750 FTE/GWe to

~50 FTE/GWe

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What We Really Want Out of This

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ImpactLow High

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ARPA-E Programs

Industry R&D

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We would accomplish many more things if we did not think of them as impossible.

- Vince Lombardi