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Who Says Christ is God?A Refute

by D. J. Love, Minister General, T.S.N., S.B.C.

upgraded 1-17-2004

added to 5-20-2007

WHO SAYS JESUS CHRIST IS GOD?

According to those Christian ministers, who would have us all believe that

Jesus Christ is God, they say the following verses state that he is. However,

once we do a little research with a good concordance we can plainly see thattheir interpretation is based upon wishful thinking, preconceived notions, a

willingness to accept a lie as the truth, a desire to ignore conflicting

scripture, and a strong lack of Spiritual understanding.

Please note that the True name of the Messiah is Y'shua (Yahushua, Yahshua

or Yeshua) and his true phonetic name will be used instead of Jesus Christ

(Ihsous) in all cases. This is done out of respect and not as an act of legalism.

Additionally, a True Worshipper must somehow make it known that he or

she does not adhere to the teachings of Christianity (christopaganism), and

has, therefore, made a break from christo-pagan polytheism. One of those

outward signs is to stop using the pagan (hellenized) Greek name of Jesus

(IHS).

One last thought, before we go to the refute itself. Why would the Messiah,

while hanging on the cross (stake), ever say to YHVH, "Eli, Eli, lama

sabachthani?" (My God, My God, Why hast thou forsaken me?)IF indeed

Y'shua was also God, because YHVH would never forsake Himself; on the

other hand, since Messiah Y'Shua is not God, but the Perfect Spiritual

Epitome of King David (as we should be), he might want us to make thatSpiritual (mental) connection (Psalms 22:1-25 Click).

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Did David call him God?

Matthew 22:41-45

41 Now while the Pharisees were gathered together, Y'Shua (The

Messiah) asked them a question,

42 saying, "What do you think of The Messiah? Whose son is he?"

They said to him, "OfDavid."

43 He said to them, "How then does David in the Spirit call him (The

Messiah)Lord, saying,44 'The Lord said to my Lord, Sit on my right hand, Until I make

your enemies a footstool for your feet?'

45 "If then David calls him Lord, how is he (The Messiah) his (David's)

son?" (How can a son be a lord over a parent? Especially when the

parent is King David.)

Here we can see why a lack of understanding is a dangerous thing,especially in the hands of false ministers and priests.

In verse 42 above, when asked, "Whose son is he?" The Pharisees said "OF

David." Meaning OF the physical seed OF David. A son is not just simply

a son, but also, a grandson, great grandson, great-great grandson, etc..., and

likewise a parent is not simply a parent, but also, a Grandparent, Great

Grandparent, etc... .

In verse 43-45 above, "How then does David in the Spirit(now deceased OR

Spiritually speaking) call him Lord, saying, 'The Lord said to my Lord, Sit

on my right hand, Until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet?' "IF

then David calls him Lord, how is he his son?"

This riddle is based on a classic case of"Lord Confusion." Satan has used

the mistranslation of the Greek word "Kurios," as "Lord" to fool untold


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millions of the Spiritually lazy. So what do these verses really say? And

what is a Kurios anyway?

Click Here to receive the true meaning of the word "Lord," when the word

"Lord" was translated from the Greek word "Kurios."

"How then does David in the Spirit call him (The Messiah)kurios, saying,

'THE KURIOS said to my kurios, Sit on my right hand, Until I (YHVH)

make your enemies a footstool for your feet?' "Ifthen David calls him (TheMessiah)kurios, how is he (The Messiah) his (King David's) son?"

Again: How can a son be a lord over a parent? Especially when the parent is

King David.

So let's look at verses 43-45 again.

"How then does David in the Spirit(now deceased OR Spiritually speaking)

call him (Messiah)kurios, saying, 'THE KURIOS(Supreme Kurios or YHVH)

said to my kurios (Messiah), Sit on My right hand, Until I (YHVH) make

your(Messiah's) enemies a footstool for your(Messiah's) feet?' "IfthenKING David calls MessiahLord(kurios), how is Messiah his son?"

Answer: As a Spiritual "Title of Authority" received from YHVH thatwill be given to all of YHVH's Elect (Spiritually begotten children, who speak as

one for YHVH by YHVH's authority). In other words this particular KURIOS is

a Holy and Righteous being that "Represents YHVH" as YHVH's proxy.

As for the Messiah (the first Spiritually begotten and appointed son or

kurios of YHVH). The Messiah is also King David's physically begotten son

(physical seed), that is because the Messiah is OF the physical seed (lineage)

of King David.

Romans 1:3Concerning His (Spiritual) Son, Messiah Y'Shua, our master, which

was made (created) of the seed (DNA) of David according to the

flesh (natural physical sperm);
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Now one might wonder why YHVH would need or desire a 100 percent

human proxy. Well, for one, YHVH's Kingdom on Earth (The Promised Land)

will be filled with both physical (mortal) and Spiritual (immortal) beings, andthe physical beings cannot look upon YHVH and live (seeMy Lord and My

God). Second of all, YHVH promised His True Worshippers that they would

become Judges (1 Corinthians 6:2) and Priests (Rev. 5:10) in the Coming

Kingdom of YHVH on Earth; And the only way to do that is to become a

KURIOS by the authority of YHVH.

The Greater Proof

I guarantee you all, that what you are about to read is one ofmany reason

why YHVH chose the Hebrew people to make Himself known to the world.

And to all of you who place such great importance on your Greek skills and

on the Septuagint, I have to tell you, "You have been handicapped from

the very start." Forget the Greek, and study the Tanakh (Older Testament) in

Hebrew; as the Apostles and Messiah Y'Shua did. As for you skeptics out

there who need greater proof, that the Greek word Kurios is not always

used to represent YHVH, and also, to demonstrate that the Greek language

and the Greek(or hellenized) translators (Jewish born translators, who chose to

become pagan Greeks)are NOT capable of providing the Spiritual detail of

the Hebrew language or the Inspired Hebrew writers, I am providing you

with this refute and proof of your handicap.

So without further ado, please make note that the Greek/English King James

version of Matthew 22:44 is supposed to be an exact quote of the Hebrew

in Psalms 110:1, but it is not. See for yourself, that in the Greek/English

version, both English words "Lord" came from the same Greek word"Kurios." However, in the original Hebrew of Psalms (being quoted in

Matthew)a major distinction was made that was not carried over into the

Greek. Therefore, the Greek language and (or) the Greek translators were

either incapable of duplicating the Inspired Hebrew language and the

Inspired Hebrew writers and(or) they deliberately mistranslated the verse.
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I say, "The Greek (Greco-Romans) is (are) guilty of all three."

Directly below is The original verse quoted by The messiah. Notice that

"Psalms" records two entirely different words with two entirely different

meanings, BUT that they were both deceptively translated as the ambiguous

word "Lord or LORD" with only capitals or lowercase letters to distinguish

them; of course this distinction was soon lost with subsequent translations.

English with Hebrew: Psalms 110:1 The LORD(Strong's # 3068, YHVH,Yehovah, The Self-existent One; divine only) said unto my Lord(Strong's # 113,

Adon, sovereign controller; human or divine), Sit thou at my right hand, until

"I" make thine enemies thy footstool.

English with Greek:Matthew 22:44 The LORD (Strong's # 2962,Kurios) said unto my Lord (Strong's 2962,Kurios), Sit thou on my right

hand, till "I" make thine enemies thy footstool?

Suddenly, "Adon" has been replaced by "Kurios," and then by "Lord."

Moreover, this deception, also, affects the entire meaning of the pronoun "I"

in as much as it defines YHVH / Yehovah as the Spiritual Powerbehind

Messiah Y'Shua, and NOT Y'Shua himself; thus, The Messiah is NOT GOD

!

This is why Satan (Natural Man) doesn't want its Trinitarian, Christo-

pagan churches using the Tanakh (Older Testament) or associating with

non-hellenized Jews and non-hellenized gentiles.

Did Matthew call him GOD?

Matthew 1:23

23 "Behold, the virgin (young maiden) shall be with child, and shall

bring forth a son. They shall call his name Immanuel;" which is, being

interpreted, "GOD with us."


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See Isaiah 7:14 below. (Click Here)

Did Messiah call himself GOD?

John 5:17-18

17 But Y'Shua answered them, "My Father is still working, so I am

working, too."

18 For this cause therefore the (these) Jews sought the more to killhim, because he not only broke the Sabbath, but also called GOD his

own Father, making himself equal with GOD.

This is a joke, right? This in no way implies that the Messiah is actually

GOD or even equal to GOD. YHVH is not only the Messiah's Creator-

Father, but YHVH is my and your Creator-Father too! (Call no man Father -Matthew 23:9 - Therefore YHVH is THE FATHER).

This statement in John 5:18 most assuredly establishes that the pagan

polytheistic concept of multiple gods, being fathered by a supreme god, wasalready firmly planted in the minds of these particular Jews during this early

time frame; afterall, YHVH didn't allow the Jews to go into captivity

because they were obedient to Him. They (in general) had broken their

marriage vows (their Covenant) with YHVH by seeking other gods; this is

both 'Spiritual Adultery' and 'Spiritual Idolatry.'

Matthew 23:9

Call no man (or priest, etc.) on the earth your father, for one is

your FATHER, He (YHVH) who is in heaven.

Now let's consider this deception.
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John 8:58-59(These are verses taken out of context, a common error)

58 Y'Shua said to them, "Most assuredly, I tell you, before Abraham

was born, I AM."

59 They took up stones therefore to throw at him, but Y'Shua hid

himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them,

and so passed by.

In order to fully grasp the mentality of Hebrews regarding pre-existence,

one must also have an understanding of the "Mind of YHVH." So if you

haven't already read the message on "The Holy Spirit," then you really

should Click Here.

In John 8:58 Y'Shua claimed superiority over Abraham. His supreme

position, however, depends on the Father who glorifies His Son (John 8:54).He stated that Abraham rejoiced to "see my day" (John 8:56) - that is,

Abraham by faith envisioned Messiah's coming in advance of his actual

arrival. The day of Messiah "preexisted," so to speak, in Abraham's mind.

It is noteworthy that Rabbinic traditions state Abraham saw a vision of the

entire history of his descendants (Midrash Rabbah, XLIV, on Gen. 15:1-8)

Note: The Midrash method was employed by Ezra and his

associates when Ezra read the written Law to the Jews who hadreturned to Jerusalem from exile (Neh. 8:1-8).

(additional commentary) says that God granted Abraham a

vision of the end times. The local Jews misunderstood what

Y'Shua had said, believing that he had made a claim to be

actually a contemporary of Abraham (John 8:57). However,

Y'Shua reaffirmed his absolute preeminence in God's plan with

the astonishing claim, "Before Abraham was, I am [he] (who

Abraham envisioned)" (John 8:58).

To grasp the meaning of the phrase "I am" in this text, it is essential to

compare it with John's frequent use of the same phrase, which is in several

places connected with the Messiahship of Y'Shua:

John10:30-33
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My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.

28 I give eternal life to them (by the power invested in me by YHVH).

They will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand.(Why? Because...)

29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all(even the

Messiah). No one is able to snatch them out of my Father's hand.

30 I and The FATHER are (as) one (Like Minded OR mentally agree "As

One")."

31 Therefore Jews took up stones again to stone at him.

32 Y'Shua answered them, "I have shown you many good works from

my Father (through me, His proxy). For which of those works do you

stone me?"

33 The Jews answered him, "We don't stone you for a good work, but

for blasphemy: because you, being a man, make yourself GOD" (The

Jews did not understand, and neither do the Christians).

Note: It is quite obvious that the pharisees and other Jews ofthe Messiah's time did not understand what he was saying

anymore than the Trinitarians do today. They both think he was

calling himself GOD. This is an obvious polytheistic mental

concept, and the source of their confusion.

Revelation 1:1-8

(a future event being revealed in a past event to present time readers)

Note: The "Chain of Command" is evident here.Additionally the "Chain of Command" levels change according

to the actual point in time, whether future or past, being referred

to. Therefore the numbers (#) refer to the future positions of the

participants within the "Chain of command" at the future time

of "The First Resurrection," which is "The Second Coming

of Messiah." Furthermore, Positions #1 and #2 in "The Chain

of Command are held by only one being each or one entity perposition, while subordinate positions (#3 and numerically higher)

are shared. I personally believe there will be up to seven levels

with "The Least in the Kingdom" at level #6, and those at

level #7 will receive "The Second (physical) Death", but this is

another story, and a non-redemptive issue. At any rate the levels

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Magistrate, Y'Shua.

Note: It seems to me, that since YHVH's word is alwaysTRUE and harmonious, that if uncorrupted scripture even

mentions Y'Shua's secondary position to YHVH just once (andit does many times), then Messiah Y'Shua is always secondary to

YHVH, and therefore cannot be YHVH, except by proxy.

Those who want to argue and (or) try to force people to believe

that Messiah Y'Shua (or Jesus if you must) is GOD do so to

protect their own polytheistic views, pride, and realm of power.

This is the Revelation of(#2 level) Y'Shua Messiah, which (#1 level)

GOD (YHVH) gave him (#2 Y'Shua) to show to his (#3) servants (or

The Chosen Few or Elect) the things which must happen soon, which he(#2 or Y'Shua) sent and made known by his angel (future #4 or #5 Angel

Messengers) to his servant (future #3 Servant or Minister), John,

2 who testified to (#1) GOD's word, and of the testimony of(#2)

Messiah Y'Shua, about everything that (#3) he (John) saw.

3 Blessed is (#3 & #4) he who reads and those who hear the words of

the prophecy, and keep the things that are written in it, for the time is

at hand.

4(#3) John, to the seven (#3 level to #4 level) assemblies that are in Asia:

Grace to you and peace, from (#1)Him(Strong's #575, He who is

separate - YHVH), who is and who was and who is to come; and from

the seven Spirits who are before (#1)His throne;

5and(also) from (#2) Messiah Y'Shua, the faithful witness, the

firstborn (Spiritually begotten) of the (physically) dead, and the (#2)

ruler of the kings of the earth. To (#2) him who loves us, and washed

us from our sins by his blood (example of Living Sacrifice);

6 and (#2) he made us to be a kingdom, priests to (#2) his (#1) GOD and

Father; to (#2) him be the glory and the dominion forever and ever.

Amen. (end of thought or statement)

7(New statement) Behold, (#2) he is coming with the clouds, and every

eye will see (#2) him, including those who pierced him. All the tribes

of the earth will mourn(weep) over(because of)(#2) him. Even so,

Amen. (end of thought or statement)

8(New statement) "(#1) I (YHVH) am the Alpha and the Omega, the


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Beginning and the End," says the (#1) Lord (Kurios, but with further

explanation), "Who is and who was and who is to come, the

Almighty" (YHVH is this "Almighty" Kurios).

Again we have YHVH's Ambassador OR Proxy to mankind (MessiahY'Shua), speaking for YHVH, as IF he was YHVH (Exactly the same as the

Prophets of Old did), and sometimes it appears(to the less knowledgeable) that

the speaker is actually The Creator for whom he speaks. Presently this will

always be the case since the veil of the temple (Matthew 27:51) was torn

asunder at Messiah's death and end ofMessiah Y'Shua Ministry on Earth.

However, we still pray directly to YHVH, and YHVH hears us (True

Worshippers only), because of Messiah Y'Shua's "Living Sacrifice," which

we, also, maintain as the focal point of our own lives .

Romans 12:1

I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of GOD, that

ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, Holy, acceptable unto

GOD, which is your reasonable service.

Did the Angels call him GOD?

Luke 2:11

11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, which is

the anointed one of the Kurios.

Note: If you need to read or reread KuriosClick Here.

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John 1:1-5(A Major Trinitarian Deception)1 In the beginning was the Word (Strong's #3056, LOGOS; a Motive or

Intent, an utterance or thought), and the Word(Utterance with Motive or

Intent ) was with GOD, and the Word(Utterance with Motive or Intent )

was (of) GOD.

2 The same(Utterance with Motive or Intent ) was in the beginning with

GOD (YHVH).

3 All things were made by Him(YHVH according to Motive or Intent or

Plan); and without Him(YHVH according to Motive or Intent or Plan)

was not anything made that was made.

4 In Him(YHVH according to Motive or Intent or Plan of Salvation)was

life; and the life (eternal) was the light of men.5 And the light shines in darkness; and the darkness

comprehended it(The Light) not.

Note:The Messiah is not"The Logos;" The Messiah is the"Instrument of Salvation," and the "Intent or Motive is

Salvation" for YHVH's "Elect" or "Chosen Few." Strong's

also, list the Messiah as the "Divine Expression," but does not

go so far as to say 'The Messiah' is "The Logos." A "DivineExpression" is a figure of speech that must, also, remain

within the overall meaning of the definition. Obviously, the

Messiah was always "Intended" to play a major role in

"Salvation." However, the "Logos" is not just simply a "Plan

of Salvation," as YHVH's primary motive has always been to

Spiritually Beget Righteous Children "In His Image" of which

the Messiah is the eldest, and "The Chosen Few" are the

Spiritual Siblings.

Note:When looking up the definition of a word in aconcordance, MAKE SURE that the understanding of the

definition derived is well within the context ofALL the words

shown. Even definitions must remain "In Context."


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For when YHVH spoke "In the Beginning"(Genesis 1), He (YHVH) was

making the utterance of"The Logos." See for yourself, as "The Light"

in John 1:5 is the very same "Light" spoken of in Genesis 1:1-3. Why?

Because the Sun, Moon and the Stars were not created until the "Fourth

Day"(Genesis 1:13-18).

John 1:55 And the light(Righteousness of YHVH) shines in darkness

(unrighteousness); and the darkness (Choshek - H2822) comprehended

it(The Light) not.

Genesis 1:1-3("The Logos"is an utterance or thought)In the beginning GOD created the heavens and the earth.

2 Now the Earth was formless and empty. Darkness(Choshek -

H2822) was on the surface of the deep. YHVH's Righteous Spirit was

hovering over the surface of the waters.

3 GOD said(or thought), "Let there be Light," and there was

light(The Beginning of Righteousness, Love, Understanding, Divine

Wisdom).

When we read "A Bible" of course it will read as written and as translated by

those who were originally hellenized (pagan Greek translators) and as by

those Christians, who are also hellenized, that translated it; Moffatt is no

different. However, when you look at the pure Greek, and Hebrew you see

that logos means something quite different.

Logos (log' os) (G#3056) something said (or thought); by implication, atopic (subject of discourse), also reasoning (mentality or motive or spirit),

or as with St. John "A Divine Expression" (from The Divine Father).

The Christians have gone to great lengths to even add their own personal

interpretations to Strong's Exhaustive Concordance. Regardless, The


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Expression is only Divine because it was THOUGHT (not actually spoken) by

the Divine Being, YHVH. SO . . . . what was that "Divine Expression?"

Genesis 1:3 "Then GOD said, "Let there be LIGHT" and there wasLIGHT (Divine Light or Divine Wisdom was introduced).

As we know, The Day LIGHT (lights) wasn't (weren't) created until the fourth

day in the firmament of heaven, THIS is confirmed by the word

"DARKNESS" (H2822, Choshek) in verse 2.

Choshek(H2822) literal darkness, but figuratively meaning misery,

destruction, death, ignorance, sorrow, wickedness, but not meaning

physical absence of sunlight.

Therefore, YHVH decided to put an END to misery, destruction, death,

ignorance, sorrow, and wickedness with LIGHT (The Divine Revelation of

Righteousness). That Divine Revelation has been revealed to be THE GOAL

of YHVH's "PLAN Of SALVATION;" and as we know, The Messiah playedThe Pivotal Role in that Divine Plan, but others also played important parts

in YHVH's Divine Plan (Moses, King David, Abraham, Apostles, etc. . . .).

Proverbs 8:all is especially good, because it literally spells out that "TheLight" was WISDOM (Divine Wisdom).

So there you have it, AND suddenly the Hellenized (pagan) Christian Effects

are very obvious.

Note:And thus, "The Plan of Salvation" was initiated, andYHVH began the process of begetting Righteous children (not

just one), of which Messiah Y'Shua is the First appointed son

and Y'Shua is YHVH's primary LIGHT source and YHVH's


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source of Righteous understanding for mankind. (Revelation

21:23).

Revelation 22:5(After the First Resurrection)And there shall be no night(darkness) there; and they need no candle,

neither light of the sun; for the Lord GOD (YHVH) giveth them

light: and they (The Chosen Few) shall reign forever and ever.

Now let's consider another deception.

1John 3:16

16 Hereby perceive we the love of GOD, because he (Messiah) laid

down his life for us (to teach us the "Selfless Love of GOD"): and we

ought to lay down our lives for the brethren (because we too have the

"Love of GOD").

This is extremely far fetched, and just goes to prove the extreme to whichTrinitarians will go in order to try to prove a lie. Obviously those with the

"Love of GOD" are not GOD, but have GOD's "Holy Spirit of Love."

Notice the word "perceive?" This is a keyword that tells us that the revealer

of truth (The Holy Spirit) will open our mind's eye, so that we may perceive

the truth concerning "The Love of GOD."

1John 5:18-20

18 We (The Chosen) know that whosoever is born of GOD sins not(stops sinning); but he that is (Spiritually) begotten of God keeps

himself, and that wicked one touches him not.

19 And we (The Chosen) know that we (The Chosen) are of GOD (we

have YHVH's Holy Spirit or Mentality), and the whole world lies in

wickedness.

20 And we (The Chosen) know that the Son of GOD (Messiah) is come,


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and hath given us an understanding (Light through YHVH's Holy Spirit),

that we (The Chosen) may know Him (YHVH) that is true, and we (The

Chosen) are in Him (YHVH) that is true, even (also)in His Son,

Messiah Y'Shua. This (YHVH) is the true GOD, and eternal life (is

YHVH's gift through Messiah's teachings).

Does a lack of understanding ever cease? This next one shows a very

elementary lack of understanding.

Did the blind man call him GOD?

John 9:35-38

35 Y'Shua heard that they had cast him out; and when he had found

him, he said unto him, Do you believe on the Son of GOD?

36 He answered and said, Who is he, Lord (Kurios), that I might

believe on him?

37 And Y'Shua said unto him, You have both seen him, and it is he

(Son of GOD, not GOD) that talks with thee.

38 And he said, Lord (Kurios), I believe. And he "kissed his hand"

(Strong's,# G4352, proskuneo, kneeled before him and/or kissed his hand inrespect for his authority).

Here Y'Shua only claims to be "A Son of GOD," but the Trinitarians have

chosen to ignore this obvious lower position of authority, and focus on the

ambiguous word "Lord" (Kurios). This is just another example of the

desperate measures that polytheistic thinking trinitarians will stoop to in

order to preserve their spiritually darkened lives. The Son of GOD statement

simply reinforces what I have been saying all along; regardless of the

ambiguous word Lord (Kurios) statement. Since Kurios has already beendiscussed I will continue on without further discussion on the Kurios

subject, unless it is brought up again (below) in this refute, in which case, and

from this point onward I will just tell you that we have another Kurios

Misunderstanding.


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Did Thomas call him GOD?

John 20:28

28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord (Kurios) and

my GOD (Theos).

This is the typical Kurios and Theos misunderstanding. Read about the

Kurios and Theos in the message "My Lord and My God."

Did Peter call him GOD?

Acts 10:34-36

34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that

Theos(could be either YHVH or Y'Shua) is no respecter of persons:35 But in every nation he that fears Him (probably YHVH), and works

righteousness, is accepted with Him (could be either YHVH or Y'Shua).

36 The word which was (GOD was not in the original texts here, but was

added by trinitarian translators)sent unto the children of Israel,

preaching peace by Messiah Y'Shua: (he is Kurios of all:)

Again, we have anotherKurios misunderstanding, and an improper

manipulation of text.

Did Paul call him GOD?
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Acts 20:28

28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the

which the Holy Spirit hath made you overseers, to feed the assembly

ofTheos, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

This is anotherTheos misunderstanding. Read or reread about the Kurios

and Theos in the message "My Lord and My God."

Philippians 2:5-6

5 Let this mind(Holy Spirit) be in you, which was also in Messiah

Y'Shua:

6 Who, being in the form (Spiritual Image) of God, thought it notrobbery to be equal with God(in Spiritual RIGHTEOUSNESS ONLY -

Jeremiah 23:6):

Oh Boy, if this misunderstanding doesn't reek of Satan (Source of Human

Nature) then nothing does! Satan, who sees itself as the rightful heir of

YHVH, has just used its very own selfish influence (Human Nature) to make

those without understanding to think that the Messiah desires to be equal to

YHVH; but it is Satan (Not Messiah) that stated it would be "Like the Most

High" (Isaiah 14:14). Sounds like Satan's false messiah is the Anti-Messiah.

1 Timothy 3:16

16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: Theos

(#2 level leader) was manifest (appeared) in the flesh, justified in the

Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the

world, received up (Spiritually) into glory.

This is anotherTheos misunderstanding.
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Titus 2:13

13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the

great Theos and our(proxy) Savior, Messiah Y'Shua;

This is anotherTheos misunderstanding.

Did YHVH (GOD) call him GOD?This is probably the most lame (blind) statement of all. Now the Babylonian

Trinitarian fever has reached its greatest heights of self-deception. Now we

have YHVH calling the Messiah, "YHVH." Here we are expected to believe

that GOD talks to Himself. As if YHVH, the supreme Spiritual mentality inall the universe and beyond has to communicate with Himself by talking to

Himself. I am sorry, but I cannot believe that YHVH is schizophrenic. But I

do believe, and it is scriptural, that Messiah Y'Shua is as close as any human

can get to being GOD, without actually being GOD. And therein lies all the

misunderstandings and deceptions brought down upon mankind by Satan

(Source of Human Nature) and its deceivers.

Hebrews 1:1-2, 6-10(verses 1 and 2 were included to show that YHVH does indeed use proxiesto speak on His behalf.)

1 GOD (THEOS, Strong's #2316), who at sundry times and in diverse

manners spoke in time past unto the (human) fathers by the prophets

(YHVH's proxies),

2 Has in these "latter days" spoken unto us by His Son(also a proxy

for YHVH), whom He hath appointed heir of all things (that are

Created), for whom also he made (created) the (physical) world;

6 (in the future) When He (YHVH) again brings in the firstborn into the

world (at the First Resurrection, yet to come) He says, "Let all the angels

of GOD reverence him" (as their superior).

7 (in the future)Of the angels He says, "Who makes his(the Messiah's)


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angels winds, and his servants a flame of fire?" (Answer: YHVH will dothis for All of His sons)

8 (Apostle Paul speaking)but of the Son (the Messiah) He says, "Your

throne, THEOS(Strong's #2316), is forever and ever; The scepter of

uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom (On Earth).

9 You have loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; Therefore

THEOS (#2), yourTHEOS (#1), has anointed you With the oil of

gladness above your fellows."

Note: This is so obvious as to be laughable. IfTheos alwaysrefers to The Supreme Being YHVH (and it does not), then it

makes zero sense that this verse would establish Theos as being

subservient to Himself.

However, IfTheos is not always the supreme being YHVH(which is the case), then this verse does make sense; and (again),

just as in the case of the term Kurios, definitely establishes a

"Chain of Command," wherein the Messiah is the highest

ranking created being in the universe; but he is still not The

Self-existent Creator, YHVH.

This type of confusion is why uninspired hellenized Jews and

other uninspired paganized translators should never have been

used to translate the Inspired word of YHVH. Only YHVH's

elect (Chosen Few) have the ability to understand and interpret

YHVH's words; for it is The Holy Spirit (mind of YHVH) that

reveals truth (John 14:26; 1 Corinthians 2:13). Therefore, pagan

Roman or pagan Greek translators, whether Jewish born or not,

will always misinterpret the Spiritually inspired word(s) of

YHVH. If they didn't, then this refute would not be necessary.

10 (Apostle Paul speaking) And, "You, Kurios (YHVH), in the

beginning, laid the foundation of the earth. The heavens are the works

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If necessary read about the Kurios and Theos in the message "My Lord

and My God."

The Older Testament Verses

Did Isaiah call him God?

Isaiah 7:14

14 Therefore the Lord (Adonay)(YHVH) Himself will give you a sign:

behold, a virgin (young maiden) shall conceive, and bear a (human) son,

and shall call his name Immanuel(Strong's #6005, meaning "GOD is

with us" - Spiritually Speaking, not physically speaking).

Note: Obviously the Messiah was not actually namedImmanuel or Emmanuel, and therefore this was not a literal

statement, but a figurative one. This is the same Hebrew

concept as YHVH is with us through His Ambassador,

Proxy or Kurios(who is Y'Shua Messiah). This is another case of

wishful thinking, and it would be completely out of sync with

all scripture if the figurative meaning of the name Immanuelwere taken literally.

Isaiah 9:66 For unto us a (human) child is born, unto us a (human) son is given;
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and the government (of the Coming Kingdom of YHVH on Earth) shall be

on his shoulder: and his name shall be (someday) called Wonderful

(Strong's #6382, "PELE," A Miracle or A Wonder or A Marvel), Counselor

(Strong's #3289, "YA'ATS," One who guides or advises), Mighty "EL"(Strong's #410, "EL," Strength, Mighty, and may be used with ANY deity or

idol, but normally as a compound word, similar to "El Shaddai"),

Everlasting Father (Strong's #1, "AB" figuratively used in a future orremote application as a Chief or Principal or as a father, but not THE

FATHER), Prince of Peace (self-explanatory).

(Return to Matthew 1:23)

Did Jeremiah call him God?

Jeremiah 23:5-6

5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD (Strong's #3068, Yehovah,

Jehovah, The "Self-existent GOD"), that I (YHVH) will raise unto David

a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shallexecute judgment and justice on The Earth (by proxy).

6 In his (Messiah's) days (as future King of YHVH's Kingdom on Earth)

(New or Spiritual) Judah shall be saved, and (New or Spiritual) Israel

shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called,THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS(Strong's #3072, Yehovah

tsidqenuw, a symbolical epithet of the Messiah)or "The Righteousness ofJehovah."

Did Paul Call Him GOD?(Philippians 2:5-6)

Was Messiah Prophesied as GOD or A Human Prophet?
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Deuteronomy 4:10(spoken to Moses)

Specially the day that thou stoodest before the YHVH thy LORD in

Horeb, when the LORD said unto me, Gather me the people together,and I (YHVH) will make them hear my words, that they may learn to

fear me all the days that they shall live upon the earth, and that they

may teach their children.

They gathered and feared the presence of YHVH. They cried out to

Moses let us hear you instead of YHVH.

Deuteronomy 18:16-18(spoken to Moses)According to all that thou desired of YHVH thy LORD (while)in

Horeb in the day ofthe assembly (Deu. 4:10 above), saying, Let me

not hear again the voice of YHVH my GOD, neither let me see this

great fire any more, that I die not.

And YHVH said unto me (Moses), They have well spoken that which

they have spoken.

YHVH is pleased they did not want to see orhear Him (because).

I will raise them up a Prophet from among their (human)brethren,just like you (Moses), and (I, YHVH) will put my words in

his mouth; and he (Messiah Y'Shua)shall speak unto them all that I

shall command him (by my Righteousness Seeking Holy Spirit or

Mindset). And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearkenunto my words which he (the human Prophet or Messiah) shall speak

in my name (as my proxy), I will require it (his disobedience) of him.

This is a prophecy of a fully human Messiah, as another one of YHVH's

prophets (human proxy), only this fully human prophet will ultimately be

given the full power of YHVH.

Read: The Throne Of YHVH, Who Sits On It?

Read: SCY Congregational Doctrine
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Psalms 22:1-25(Key words and phrases in bold letters)

My GOD, my GOD, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far fromhelping me, and from the words of my roaring?

2 O my GOD, I cry in the daytime, but thou hearest not; and in the night

season, and am not silent.

3 But thou art Holy, O thou that inhabits the praises of Israel.

4 Our fathers trusted in thee: they trusted, and thou didst deliver them.

5 They cried unto thee, and were delivered: they trusted in thee, and

were not confounded.

6 But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the

people.

7 All they that see me laugh me to scorn (Messiah's Roman Guards mockedhim): they shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying,

8 He trusted on the L_RD that he would deliver him: let Him deliver him,

seeing he delighted in Him.

9 But thou art He that took me out of the womb: thou didst make me hope

when I was upon my mothers breasts.

10 I was cast upon thee from the womb (not before): thou art my GOD

from my mothers belly.

11 Be not far from me; for trouble is near; for there is none to help.

12 Many bulls have compassed me: strong bulls of Bashan have beset meround.

13 They gaped upon me with their mouths, as a ravening and a roaring lion.

14 I am poured out like water (when his side was pierced), and all my bones

are out of joint: my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my

bowels.

15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd (broken pottery); and my

tongue cleaveth to my jaws (he thirsted); and thou hast brought me into

the dust of death.

16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed

me: they pierced my hands and my feet.17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.

18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.

19 But be not thou far from me, O L_RD: O my strength, haste thee to help

me.

20 Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.

21 Save me from the lions mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of


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the unicorns.

22 I will declare thy name unto my brethren: in the midst of the

congregation will I praise thee.

23 Ye that fear the L_RD, praise him; all ye the seed of Jacob, glorify him;

and fear him, all ye the seed of Israel.

24 For He (YHVH) hath not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the

afflicted (neither Messiah nor David); neither hath He (YHVH) hid His face

from him; but when he cried unto Him, He (YHVH) heard (YHVH did not

turn His back on Messiah).

25 My praise shall be of thee in the great congregation: I will pay my vows

before them that fear Him.

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