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Page 1: Who Should Consider Medicaid Planning?...2014/01/06  · Medicaid Planning Profile Qualification Standards Income Allowance (MMMNA) Misc. Income Allowances (PNA, Utilities, Health

Who Should Consider Medicaid Planning?

“Crisis” vs. “Pre-Planning”

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Summary of What We Covered

Week 1 Medicaid Planning Profile™

Qualification Standards

Income Allowance (MMMNA)

Misc. Income Allowances (PNA, Utilities, Health Ins.)

Asset Allowance (CSRA)

Max State vs. Range State

Snap Shot Date

Week 2 Look Back Date/Period

Spend Down

Transfers

Penalty Period

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Summary of What We Covered

Week 3 Exemptions

Case Study

Miscellaneous Rules

Week 4 Determining the Spend Down Method

Spend Down Methods

Case Study: Miss Brown Crisis

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This Week We Will Cover

• Crisis v. Pre-Planning Methodology

• Break Even Point for Pre-Planning

• Case Study: Miss Brown Pre-Planning

• Funding Issues to be Aware of

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Case Study: Miss. Brown (Crisis) (Review From Last Week)

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“Crisis” vs. “Pre-Planning”

• In Crisis Planning, the client is already Physically Eligible. You need to get him/her Financially Eligible.

• In Pre-Planning, you get the client Financially Eligible, then wait for them to become Physically Eligible.

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Ex: 1 (ILL)

Ex: 1 (Qual)

Ex: 2 (ILL)

Ex: 3 (ILL)

Ex: 3 (Qual)

60

0

15

35

Ex: 2 (Qual)

39 mo 63 mo

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“Crisis” vs. “Pre-Planning”

• In Crisis Planning, the Client is Already Physically Eligible. You Need to get him/her Financially Eligible.

• In Pre-Planning, you get the client Financially eligible, then wait for them to become Physically Eligible.

What is Miss. Brown came to your office and was healthy? What would change? Look Back Becomes Look Forward™ (to Break Even)

Reduce Amount at Risk (Value Proposition)

“Flip the Switch” (when to use each)

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Case Study Miss. Brown (Pre-Planning)

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Pre-Planning (Post DRA ’05)

• Other Reasons to Plan Now Healthy (less stress) vs. Unhealthy (burden to spouse/kids)

Planning costs less now, then in crisis

1-3 Month nursing home savings (Min)

Shelters growth/income (“Medicaid Freeze”)™

• Estate Planning Asset Protection 2+ generations • Lawsuits/In-Laws/2nd Spouse(s)

Values promotion

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The LWP™ Medicaid Planning Principles

• Learn the rules (Federal/Local)

• Identify client’s eligibility or excess spend down amount

• If excess, determine the spend down method

• Create and implement the Funding Plan

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Create the Funding Plan

• Overview of Funding Funding Strategy (Last Asset)

Key Issues (Qualified $)

Other Funding Considerations • (Medicare/LTC/Previous transfers/Death)

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Summary of What We Covered

Crisis v. Pre-Planning Methodology

Break Even Point for Pre-Planning

Case Study: Miss Brown Pre-Planning

Funding Issues to be Aware of

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What We Will Cover Next Week

• Estate, Disability, Tax & Asset Protection Plan Design

• Relevant Law vs. Plan Design

• Tax Treatment of Trusts

• Irrevocable Trusts

• Power of Appointment

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