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STANDING COMMITTEE ON ESTIMATES

MEETING NUMBER 1

WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 12, 2007

ROOM NO.1, QUEEN'S PARK

The Committee met at 3 :36 p.m. this day for the purpose of organization.

Members of the Committee present: Gilles Bisson, MPP; Kim Craitor, MPP; Bob Delaney, MPP; Tim Hudak, MPP; Lou Rinaldi, MPP.

Substitution present: Dave Levac, MPP for Amrit Mangat, MPP.

In Attendance: Elaine Campbell, Research Officer.

The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 106(c).

The Clerk of the Committee presided over the election of the Chair of the Committee.

Mr. Levac moved, - That Mr. Hudak do take the chair of the Committee as Chair.

There being no further nominations, the Clerk of the Committee declared nominations closed and Mr. Hudak duly elected as Chair ofthe Committee.

The Chair assumed the chair.

Mr. Levac moved, - That Mr. Dunlop be appointed Vice-Chair of the Committee.

The question being put on the motion, it was carried.

Mr. Levac moved, - That a Sub-committee on Committee Business be appointed to meet from time to time at the call of the Chair, or at the request of any member thereof, to consider and report to the Committee on the business of the Committee; that the presence of all members of the Sub-committee is necessary to constitute a meeting; that the Sub-committee be composed of the following members: the Chair as Chair; Mr. Rinaldi, Mr. O'Toole and Mr. Bisson; and that substitution be permitted on the Sub-committee.


At 3 :42 p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call ofthe Chair.

Sylwia Przezdziecki, Clerk of the Committee.

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MEETING NUMBER 2

TUESDA Y, APRIL 15,2008

ROOM NO. 228, QUEEN'S PARK

The Committee met at 3:46 p.m. this day, the Chair, Mr. Hudak, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Gilles Bisson, MPP; Bob Delaney, MPP; Garfield Dunlop, MPP; Tim Hudak, MPP; Amrit Mangat, MPP; Phil McNeely, MPP; John O'Toole, MPP; Lou Rinaldi, MPP.


The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 106(c).

Pursuant to Standing Order 59, the 2008-2009 Estimates of the following ministries and offices were selected for review by the Committee:

Ministry of Economic Development and Trade (7 hours)

Ministry of Aboriginal Affairs (8 hours)

Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care (10 hours)

Ministry of Northern Development and Mines (5 hours)

Ministry of Research and Innovation (7 hours)

Ministry of Labour (8 hours)

Ministry of Energy (7.5 hours)

Ministry of Agriculture, Food and Rural Affairs (7.5 hours)

Ministry of Finance (10 hours)

Ministry of Training, Colleges and Universities (5 hours)

Ministry of Public Infrastructure Renewal (7 hours)

Ministry of Municipal Affairs and Housing (8 hours)

At 3:54 p.m., the Committee adjourned until 3:30 p.m. on Tuesday, April 29, 2008.


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MEETING NUMBER 3

TUESDAY, APRIL 29,2008



Members of the Committee present: Bob Delaney, MPP; Garfield Dunlop, MPP; Tim Hudak, MPP; Amrit Mangat, MPP; Phil McNeely, MPP; John O'Toole, MPP; Lou Rinaldi, MPP.

Substitutions present: Laura Albanese, MPP for Kim Craitor, MPP; Paul Miller, MPP (Hamilton East-Stoney Creek) for Gilles Bisson, MPP.

Members, not of the Committee, present: Ted Chudleigh, MPP; Jean-Marc Lalonde, MPP; Jerry Ouellette, MPP.

Appearing: The Honourable Sandra Pupatello, MPP, Minister of Economic Development and Trade.

Witnesses: From the Ministry of Economic Development and Trade: Fareed Amin, Deputy Minister; David Clifford, Assistant Deputy Minister, Corporate Services Division.

In Attendance: Ray McLellan, Research Officer.

The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 1 06( c), to consider the 2008-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Economic Development and Trade.

The Chair called Vote 901.

The Minister, Ms. Pupatello, made a statement and answered questions.

The Official Opposition Critic, Mr. Chudleigh, made a statement.

The witness, Mr. Amin, answered questions.

The Third Party Critic, Mr. Miller (Hamilton East Stoney Creek), made a statement.

The witness, Mr. Clifford, answered questions.

The following documents were filed with the Clerk of the Committee as Exhibits:

EXHIBIT NO. 11011001

EXHIBIT NO. 1/011002


MINISTRY OF ABORIGINAL AFFAIRS -Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2008-2009.

MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE, FOOD AND RURAL AFFAIRS - Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2008-2009.

MINISTRY OF THE ATTORNEY GENERALResults-based Plan Briefing Book 2008-2009.


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CABINET OFFICE - Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2008-2009.

MINISTRY OF CHILDREN AND YOUTH SERVICES Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2008-2009.

MINISTRY OF CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION - Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2008-2009.

MINISTRY OF COMMUNITY AND SOCIAL SERVICES - Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2008-2009.

MINISTRY OF COMMUNITY SAFETY AND CORRECTIONAL SERVICES - Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2008-2009.

MINISTRY OF CULTURE - Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2008-2009.

MINISTRY OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND TRADE - Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2008-2009.

MINISTRY OF EDUCATION - Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2008-2009.

MINISTRY OF ENERGY - Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2008-2009.

MINISTRY OF THE ENVIRONMENT - Resultsbased Plan Briefing Book 2008-2009.

MINISTRY OF FINANCE - Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2008-2009.

MINISTRY OF FRANCOPHONE AFFAIRS -Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2008-2009.

MINISTRY OF GOVERNMENT AND CONSUMER SERVICES - Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2008-2009.

MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND LONG-TERM CARE - Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2008-2009.

MINISTRY OF HEALTH PROMOTION -Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2008-2009.

MINISTRY OF LABOUR - Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2008-2009.

OFFICE OF THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR -Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2008-2009.

MINISTRY OF MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS AND HOUSING - Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2008-2009.

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MINISTRY OF NATURAL RESOURCES -Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2008-2009.

MINISTRY OF NORTHERN DEVELOPMENT AND MINES - Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2008-2009.

OFFICE OF THE PREMIER Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2008-2009.

MINISTRY OF PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE RENEWAL - Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2008-2009.

MINISTRY OF REVENUE - Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2008-2009.

MINISTRY OF SMALL BUSINESS AND ENTREPRENEURSHIP - Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2008-2009.

MINISTRY OF TOURISM - Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2008-2009.

MINISTRY OF TRAINING, COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES - Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2008-2009.

MINISTRY OF TRANSPORTATION - Resultsbased Plan Briefing Book 2008-2009.

At 5:50 p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.


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MEETING NUMBER 4

WEDNESDAY, MAY 7, 2008



Members of the Committee present: Kim Craitor, MPP; Bob Delaney, MPP; Garfield Dunlop, MPP; Tim Hudak, MPP; Amrit Mangat, MPP; John O'Toole, MPP; Lou Rinaldi, MPP.

Substitutions present: Mike Brown, MPP for Phil McNeely, MPP; Paul Miller, MPP (Hamilton East-Stoney Creek) for Gilles Bisson, MPP.


Witness: From the Ministry of Economic Development and Trade: Fareed Amin, Deputy Minister.


The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 107(d), to resume consideration of the 2008-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Economic Development and Trade.

The Committee resumed consideration of Vote 901.

The Minister, Ms. Pupatello, answered questions.

At 5: 12 p.m., the Vice-Chair assumed the chair.

At 5:38 p.m., the Chair resumed the chair.






RESEARCH AND INFORMATION SERVICES - Memorandum dated May 5, 2008 entitled "Outstanding Committee Questions: Review of the Ministry of Economic Development and Trade's Estimates."

MINISTERE DU DEVELOPPEMENT ECONOMIQUE ET DU COMMERCE -Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et la planification axee sur les resultats 2008-2009.

BUREAU DU LIEUTENANT-GOUVERNEUR - Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et la planification axee sur les resultats 2008-2009.

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MINISTRY OF RESEARCH AND INNOVATION - Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2008-2009.

At 5:52 p.m., the Committee adjourned until 9:00 a.m. on Tuesday, May 13,2008.



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MEETING NUMBER 5

TUESDAY, MAY 13,2008


The Committee met at 9:06 a.m. this day, the Vice-Chair, Mr. Dunlop, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Bob Delaney, MPP; Garfield Dunlop, MPP; AmritMangat, MPP; Phil McNeely, MPP; John O'Toole, MPP; Lou Rinaldi, MPP.

Substitutions present: Joe Dickson, MPP for Kim Craitor, MPP (a.m. only); JeanMarc Lalonde, MPP for Kim Craitor, MPP (p.m. only); Paul Miller, MPP (Hamilton East-Stoney Creek) for Gilles Bisson, MPP; Michael Prue, MPP for Gilles Bisson, MPP (9: 10 a.m. to 9:30 a.m. only).

Member, not of the Committee, present: Ted Chudleigh, MPP.


Witnesses: From the Ministry of Economic Development and Trade: Fareed Amin, Deputy Minister; David Clifford, Assistant Deputy Minister, Corporate Services Division.


The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 107(d), to resume consideration of the 2008-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Economic Development and Trade.





At 10:40 a.m., the Committee recessed until 4:11 p.m.

At 4:30 p.m., the Acting Chair (Mr. Chudleigh) assumed the chair.

At 4:35 p.m., the Vice-Chair resumed the chair.

The Vice-Chair called Votes 901 and 902.

Votes 901 and 902 carried.

The 2008-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Economic Development and Trade carried.

Ordered, - That the 2008-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Economic Development and Trade be reported, without amendment, to the House.


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RESEARCH AND INFORMATION SERVICES - Memorandum dated May 9, 2008 entitled "Estimates Committee Review on the Ministry of Economic Development and Trade - Outstanding Questions - May 7,2008 Hearings."

RESEARCH AND INFORMATION SERVICES - Memorandum dated May 9, 2008 entitled "Labour Force Survey Statistics."

PAUL MILLER, MPP (HAMILTON EASTSTONEY CREEK) - Letter dated March 7, 2008 from the Ministry of Economic Development and Trade with attachments.

TED CHUDLEIGH, MPP Document entitled "Questions for the Ministry of Economic Development and Trade."

At 5:51 p.m., the Committee adjourned until 4:00 p.m. on Wednesday, May 14, 2008.



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MEETING NUMBER 6

TUESDA Y, MAY 27, 2008


The Committee met at 9:07 a.m. this day, the Chair, Mr. Hudak, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Gilles Bisson, MPP; Kim Craitor, MPP (p.m. only); Bob Delaney, MPP; Garfield Dunlop, MPP; Tim Hudak, MPP; Phil McNeely, MPP (p.m. only).

Substitutions present: Jim Brownell, MPP for Phil McNeely, MPP (a.m. only); Joe Dickson, MPP for Lou Rinaldi, MPP; Jeff Leal, MPP for Amrit Mangat, MPP; Tony Ruprecht, MPP for Kim Craitor, MPP (a.m. only).

Members, not of the Committee, present: Toby Barrett, MPP; Howard Hampton, MPP; Norm Miller, MPP (Parry Sound-Muskoka).

Appearing: The Honourable Michael Bryant, MPP, Minister of Aboriginal Affairs.

Witness: From the Ministry of Aboriginal Affairs: Lori Sterling, Deputy Minister.

In Attendance: James Charlton, Research Officer.

The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 1 07 (d), to consider the 2008-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Aboriginal Affairs.


The Minister, Mr. Bryant, made a statement and answered questions.

The Official Opposition Critic, Mr. Miller (Parry Sound-Muskoka), made a statement.

The Third Party Critic, Mr. Bisson, made a statement.

At 10: 12 a.m., the Acting Chair (Mr. Leal) assumed the chair.

At 10: 16 a.m., the Chair resumed the chair.


The witness, Ms. Sterling, answered questions.




MINISTERE DES AFFAIRES AUTOCHTONES - Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et la planification axee sur les resultats 2008-2009.

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DEVELOPPEMENT DU MINES Document

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MINISTERE DE LA PROMOTION DE LA SANTE - Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et la planification axee sur les resultats 2008-2009.

RESEARCH AND INFORMATION SERVICES - Memorandum dated May 16, 2008 entitled "Outstanding Questions from the Estimates Hearings on May 13, 2008 - Ministry of Economic Development and Trade."


Ministry of Aboriginal Affairs Time remaining at beginning: Time used this meeting: Time remaining:

Sylwia Przezelziecki, Clerk of the Committee.


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MEETING NUMBER 7

WEDNESDAY, MAY 28,2008



Members of the Committee present: Gilles Bisson, MPP; Kim Craitor, MPP; Tim Hudak, MPP; Arnrit Mangat, MPP; Phil McNeely, MPP; Lou Rinaldi, MPP.

Substitution present: Jeff Leal, MPP for Bob Delaney, MPP.

Members, not of the Committee, present: Toby Barrett, MPP; Howard Hampton, MPP; Norm Miller, MPP (Parry Sound-Muskoka).


Witness: From the Ministry of Aboriginal Affairs: Lori Sterling, Deputy Minister.


The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 1 07( d), to resume consideration of the 2008-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Aboriginal Affairs.


The witness, Ms. Sterling, answered questions.

The Minister, Mr. Bryant, answered questions.

At 5:38 p.m., the Committee recessed until 5:42 p.m.

The following document was filed with the Clerk of the Committee as an Exhibit:

EXHIBIT NO. 11011043 MINISTRY OF ABORIGINAL AFFAIRS -Document entitled "Memorandum of Agreement Respecting Welfare Programs for Indians."

At 5:57 p.m., the Committee adjourned until 9:00 a.m. on Tuesday, June 3, 2008.




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MEETING NUMBER 8

TUESDAY, JUNE 3, 2008



Members of the Committee present: Gilles Bisson, MPP; Bob Delaney, MPP; Garfield Dunlop, MPP; Tim Hudak, MPP; Amrit Mangat, MPP; Phil McNeely, MPP; John O'Toole, MPP; Lou Rinaldi, MPP.

Substitution present: Jeff Leal, MPP for Kim Craitor, MPP (a.m. only).

Members, not of the Committee, present: Toby Barrett, MPP; Norm Miller, MPP (Parry Sound-Muskoka).


Witnesses: From the Ministry of Aboriginal Affairs: Lori Sterling, Deputy Minister; David Lynch, Chief Administrative Officer (Acting).


The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 107(d), to resume consideration of the 2008-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Aboriginal Affairs.



At 9: 16 a.m., the Chair assumed the chair.

The witnesses, Ms. Sterling and Mr. Lynch, answered questions.


RULING BY THE CHAIR

THE CHAIR: At the May 27 meeting of this Committee, I was asked by Minister Bryant to make a ruling on the admissibility of a document requested by a member taking part in the Committee proceedings. The Minister questioned the relevance of the document to the Estimates process.

Mr. Hampton requested that the Minister table a memorandum of understanding "which was reported in the Canadian Press on March 6 as a template for resolving conflicts between First Nations and mineral exploration companies."

I have given the matter careful consideration, and in so doing have looked back to a ruling made by Murray Gaunt, MPP, Chair of the Standing Committee on Social Development, in 1980, when his Committee was charged with the consideration of the Ministry of Health Estimates. While the issue he addressed concerned the admissibility of witnesses (rather than documents) during the Estimates process, some of his reflections are applicable to the question at hand.


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Mr. Gaunt reminded the Committee that "[t]he purpose of an estimates committee is for members of the Legislature and, through them, the people of Ontario, to determine if the government is spending public money appropriately, wisely and effectively in the delivery of the services intended." He continued:

In the best sense of parliamentary tradition, ministers and staff come before an estimates committee as supplicants seeking approval for expenditures and programs for which they have responsibility. They are the applicants for the money. The relevant question is, 'Shall the vote carry?' Therefore, the Committee's responsibility is to judge if this money has been or will be spent wisely.

These are significant sums of taxpayers' money that Committee Members are being asked to approve. Past Chairs have recognized that while the discussion during Estimates rightly involves the actual dollar expenditures of the Ministry in question, it might also involve the discussion of that Ministry's policy, which is the reason for the expenditures in the first place.

As Chair, I tend to allow Members to ask a wide range of questions based on the Estimates before the Committee, to ensure they are confident the Ministry will spend those dollars appropriately. Members have asked questions about the delivery of similar programs in previous fiscal years; about the policy framework that supports a Ministry's approach to a problem or to service delivery; or about the competence of a Ministry to spend the money wisely and efficiently.

The Ministry of Aboriginal Affairs plays a unique role in the government. According to its own Results-Based Plan 2008-09, the Ministry has a mandate to coordinate government policies related to Aboriginal people in Ontario, and has corporate leadership across government, being responsible for coordinating crossministry Aboriginal policy initiatives and multi-lateral relationship processes. With this in mind, I would like to recognize the efforts on the part of Minister Bryant and the Deputy Minister in endeavouring to provide the Committee with answers regarding programs and initiatives within the Ministry, as well as those where the Ministry is involved in its advocacy or coordinating role.

I would remind Members that Standing Order 109 (b) authorizes Committees, except when the House orders otherwise, to send for persons, papers and things.

I would also remind the members that the Estimates process has worked well with a give-and-take approach. On one hand, members of the Committee take care to keep their questions relevant in the context of the main question: Shall the Vote giving authority to spend certain sums of money for specific purposes carry? The Ministry, for its part, demonstrates an openness in providing information requested by the Committee.

It is in this spirit of give-and-take that I rule the Member's request for the memorandum of understanding in order. I trust that the information will assist the Committee in its consideration of the Ministry's Estimates, and I trust that the Minister will openly share the information with the Committee.


The Vice-Chair called Vote 2001.

Vote 2001 carried.

The 2008-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Aboriginal Affairs carried.

Ordered, - That the 2008-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Aboriginal Affairs be reported, without amendment, to the House.

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RESEARCH AND INFORMATION SERVICES - Memorandum dated May 29, 2008 entitled "Outstanding Questions: Ministry of Aboriginal Affairs-May 27, 2008."

RESEARCH AND INFORMATION SERVICES - Memorandum dated May 29, 2008 entitled "Outstanding Questions: Ministry of Aboriginal Affairs-May 28, 2008."

MINISTRY OF ABORIGINAL AFFAIRS -Document entitled "Gaming Revenue Sharing and Financial Agreement."

MINISTERE DE L'ALIMENTA TION

L'AGRICUL TURE, DE ET DES AFF AIRES

RURALES - Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et la planification axee sur les resultats 2008-2009.

MINISTERE DE L'ENERGIE - Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et la planification axee sur les resultats 2008-2009.

MINISTERE DU RENOUVELLEMENT DE L'INFRASTRUCTURE PUBLIQUE Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et la planification axee sur les resultats 2008-2009.

MINISTERE DE LA SANTE ET DES SOINS DE LONGUE DUREE Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et la planification axee sur les resultats 2008-2009.

At 5:11 p.m., the Committee adjourned until 4:00 p.m. on Wednesday, June 4, 2008.




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MEETING NUMBER 9

WEDNESDAY, JUNE 4, 2008


The Committee met at 4: 11 p.m. this day, the Chair, Mr. Hudak, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Bob Delaney, MPP; Tim Hudak, MPP; Arnrit Mangat, MPP; Phil McNeely, MPP; John O'Toole, MPP; Lou Rinaldi, MPP.

Substitution present: France Gelinas, MPP for Gilles Bisson, MPP.

Member, not of the Committee, present: Ted Amott, MPP.

Appearing: The Honourable George Smitherman, MPP, Minister of Health and Long-Term Care.

Witness: From the Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care: Ron Sapsford, Deputy Minister.


The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 107(d), to consider the 2008-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Health and LongTerm Care.


The Minister, Mr. Smitherman, made a statement and answered questions.

The Official Opposition Spokesperson, Mr. O'Toole, made a statement.

The Third Party Critic, Mme Gelinas, made a statement.

The witness, Mr. Sapsford, answered questions.





MINISTERE DES RICHESSES NA TURELLES - Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et la planification axee sur les resultats 2008-2009.

MINISTERE DU TRAVAIL - Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et la planification axee sur les resultats 2008-2009.

MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND LONG-TERM CARE Document dated June 2008 entitled "Strengthening Health Care for Ontarians."

At 5:54 p.m., the Committee adjourned until 9:00 a.m. on Tuesday, June 10,2008.


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MEETING NUMBER 10

TUESDAY, JUNE 10,2008



Members of the Committee present: Kim Craitor, MPP; Garfield Dunlop, MPP; Phil McNeely, MPP; Lou Rinaldi, MPP.

Substitutions present: Bas Balkissoon, MPP for Amrit Mangat MPP; France Gelinas, MPP for Gilles Bisson, MPP; Pat Hoy, MPP for Bob Delaney, MPP.

Member, not of the Committee, present: Elizabeth Witmer, MPP.


Witnesses: From the Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care: Ron Sapsford, Deputy Minister; Helen Stevenson, Assistant Deputy Minister/Executive Officer, Ontario Public Drug Programs; Joshua Tepper, Assistant Deputy Minister, Health Human Resources Strategy.


The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 107(d), to resume consideration of the 2008-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care.



The witnesses, Mr. Sapsford, Dr. Tepper and Ms. Stevenson, answered questions.






RESEARCH AND INFORMATION SERVICES - Memorandum dated June 6, 2008 entitled "Outstanding Questions: Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care - June 4, 2008."

RESEARCH AND INFORMATION SERVICES - Memorandum dated June 6, 2008 entitled "Final summary of outstanding questions from May 27 and 28, 2008 and June 3, 2008 - Ministry of Aboriginal Affairs."

MINISTERE DES SERVICES A L'ENF ANCE ET A LA JEUNESSE Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et la planification axee sur les resultats 2008-2009.

MINISTERE DES SERVICES SOCIAUX ET COMMUNAUTAIRES Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et la planification axee sur les resultats 2008-2009.

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MINISTERE DE L'ENVIRONNEMENT Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et la planification axee sur les resultats 2008-2009.

OFFICE DES AFF AIRES FRANCOPHONES -Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et la planification axee sur les resultats 2008-2009.

MINISTERE DE LA RECHERCHE ET DE L'INNOV ATION - Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et la planification axee sur les resultats 2008-2009.

MINISTERE DES TRANSPORTS - Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et la planification axee sur les resultats 2008-2009.

MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND LONG-TERM CARE - Document entitled "Improving Ontario's Publicly Funded Drug System: Results for Ontarians-2007 Annual Report of the Executive Officer, Ontario Public Drug Programs."

At 10:39 a.m., the Committee adjourned until 4:00 p.m. on Wednesday, June 11, 2008.



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MEETING NUMBER 11

WEDNESDAY, JUNE 11,2008



Members of the Committee present: Kim Craitor, MPP; Bob Delaney, MPP; Tim Hudak, MPP; Lou Rinaldi, MPP.

Substitutions present: Bas Balkissoon, MPP for Amrit Mangat, MPP; France Gelinas, MPP for Gilles Bisson, MPP; Maria Van Bommel, MPP for Phil McNeely, MPP.

Members, not of the Committee, present: Ted Arnott, MPP; Elizabeth Witmer, MPP.


Witnesses: From the Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care: Ron Sapsford, Deputy Minister; John McKinley, Assistant Deputy Minister, Health System Information Management and Investment; Joshua Tepper, Assistant Deputy Minister, Health Human Resources Strategy.


The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 107(d), to resume consideration of the 2008-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care.


The Minister, Mr. Smitherman, answered questions.

The witnesses, Mr. Sapsford, Mr. McKinley and Dr. Tepper, answered questions.


EXHIBIT NO. 1I01/063A

EXHIBIT NO. 1I01l063B



MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND LONG-TERM CARE - Document dated June 10, 2008 entitled "Estimates Response."

MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND LONG-TERM CARE - Document entitled "Public Accounts of Ontario 2006-2007, Ministry Statements and Schedules, Volume I."

MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND LONG-TERM CARE - Media Release from Tim Hudak, MPP, Niagara West-Glanbrook entitled "Alberta to Scrap Health Tax."

RESEARCH AND INFORMATION SERVICES - Memorandum dated June 11, 2008 entitled "Outstanding Questions: Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care - June 10,2008."

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At 6:01 p.m., the Committee adjourned until 9:00 a.m. on Tuesday, June 17,2008.




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MEETING NUMBER 12




Members of the Committee present: Kim Craitor, MPP; Bob Delaney, MPP; Tim Hudak, MPP; Arnrit Mangat, MPP; Phil McNeely, MPP (a.m. only); Lou Rinaldi, MPP.

Substitution present: France Gelinas, MPP for Gilles Bisson, MPP; Charles Sousa, MPP for Phil McNeely, MPP (p.m. only).

Member, not ofthe Committee, present: Elizabeth Witmer, MPP.


Witnesses: From the Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care: Ron Sapsford, Deputy Minister; John McKinley, Assistant Deputy Minister, Health System Information Management and Investment; Helen Stevenson, Assistant Deputy Minister/Executive Officer, Ontario Public Drug Programs; Joshua Tepper, Assistant Deputy Minister, Health Human Resources Strategy.


The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 107(d), and its order of Reference dated Tuesday, June 17, 2008, to resume consideration of the 2008-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care.



The witnesses, Dr. Tepper, Mr. Sapsford and Mr. McKinley, answered questions.


The witness, Ms. Stevenson, answered questions.

At 4:16 p.m., the Acting Chair (Mr. Delaney) assumed the chair.


The Chair called Votes 1401 to 1406 inclusive.

Votes 1401 to 1406 inclusive carried.

The Chair called Votes 1411 and 1412.



Vote 1407 carried.

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The 2008-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care carried.

Ordered, - That the 2008-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care be reported, without amendment, to the House.










BUREAU DU CONSEIL DES MINISTRES -Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et la planification axee sur les resultats 2008-2009.

MINISTERE DE L'EDUCA TION - Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et la planification axee sur les resultats 2008-2009.

MINISTERE DES FINANCES - Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et la planification axee sur les resultats 2008-2009.

CABINET DU PREMIER MINISTRE Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et la planification axee sur les resultats 2008-2009.

MINISTERE DU REVENU Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et la planification axee sur les resultats 2008-2009.

MINISTERE DE LA FORMATION ET DES COLLEGES ET UNIVERSITES - Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et la planification axee sur les resultats 2008-2009.





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MEETING NUMBER 13

WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 3, 2008



Members of the Committee present: Gilles Bisson, MPP; Kim Craitor, MPP; Bob Delaney, MPP; Tim Hudak, MPP; Phil McNeely, MPP; Lou Rinaldi, MPP.

Substitutions present: Joe D~ckson, MPP for Amrit Mangat, MPP; Norm Miller, MPP (Parry Sound-Muskoka) for Garfield Dunlop, MPP.

Appearing: The Honourable Michael Gravelle, MPP, Minister of Northern Development and Mines.

Witnesses: From the Ministry of Northern Development and Mines: Kevin Costante, Deputy Minister; Don Ignacy, Chief Administrative Officer and Assistant Deputy Minister, Corporate Management Division; Christine Kaszycki, Assistant Deputy Minister, Mines Division; Cal McDonald, Assistant Deputy Minister, Northern Development Division; Tom Marcolini, Manager, Programs and Transportation Branch.

In Attendance: Jerry Richmond, Research Officer.

The Committee met pursuant.to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 107(d), and its Order of Reference dated Tuesday, June 17, 2008 to consider the 2008-2009 Estimates ofthe Ministry of Northern Development and Mines.


The Minister, Mr. Gravelle, made a statement and answered questions.

The Official Opposition Spokesperson, Mr. Miller (Parry Sound-Muskoka), made a statement.

The witnesses, Mr. Marcolini and Mr. Costante, answered questions.

The Third Party Spokesperson, Mr. Bisson, made a statement.

At 10:40 a.m., the Acting Chair eMr. Delaney) assumed the chair.

At 10:45 a.m., the Chair resumed the chair.

At 11 :58 a.m., the Committee recessed until 1 :09 p.m.

The Clerk of the Committee presided over the election of an Acting Chair of the Committee.

Mr. Miller (Parry Sound-Muskoka) moved, - That Mr. Craitor do take the chair of the Committee as Acting Chair.

There being no further nominations, the Clerk of the Committee declared nominations closed and Mr. Craitor duly elected as Acting Chair of the Committee.

The Acting Chair (Mr. Craitor) assumed the chair.


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At 1: 12 p.m., the Chair resumed the chair.

The witnesses, Mr. McDonald and Mr. Ignacy, answered questions.

At 2:02 p.m., the Acting Chair (Mr. Craitor) assumed the chair.


The witness, Ms. Kaszycki, answered questions.



The 2008-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Northern Development and Mines carried.

Ordered, - That the 2008-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Northern Development and Mines be reported, without amendment, to the House.










RESEARCH AND INFORMATION SERVICES Memorandum dated June 25, 2008 entitled

"Final Summary of Outstanding Questions and Responses - Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care."

RESEARCH AND INFORMATION SERVICES - Memorandum dated July 7, 2008 entitled "Final Summary of Outstanding Questions and Responses - Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care."

MINISTRY OF ABORIGINAL AFFAIRS -Document dated July 28, 2008 entitled "Final Summary of Outstanding Questions from May 27 and 28, 2008 and June 3, 2008 - Ministry of Aboriginal Affairs."

MINISTRY OF NORTHERN DEVELOPMENT AND MINES - Letter dated September 2, 2008 from the Teamsters Canada Rail Conference addressed to the Minister of Northern Development and Mines.

MINISTRY OF NORTHERN DEVELOPMENT AND MINES - News Release dated August 8, 2008 entitled "Province Strengthens Rainy River Agri-Food Industry."

MINISTERE DES AFF AIRES CIVIQUES ET DE L'IMMIGRA nON Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et la planification axee sur les resultats 2008-2009.

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MINISTERE DE LA CULTURE Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et la planification axee sur les resultats 2008-2009.

MINISTERE DU PROCUREUR GENERAL -Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et la planification axee sur les resultats 2008-2009.

MINISTERE DU TOURISME Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et la planification axee sur les resultats 2008-2009.

At 3:01 p.m., the Committee adjourned until 9:00 a.m. on Thursday, September 4, 2008.


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MEETING NUMBER 14

THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 4, 2008



Members of the Committee present: Kim Craitor, MPP; Bob Delaney, MPP; Tim Hudak, MPP; Phil McNeely, MPP; Lou Rinaldi, MPP.

Substitutions present: Kevin Flynn, MPP for Amrit Mangat, MPP; Laurie Scott, MPP for Garfield Dunlop, MPP.

Appearing: The Honourable John Wilkinson, MPP, Minister of Research and Innovation.

Witness: From the Ministry of Research and Innovation: George Ross, Deputy Minister.


The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 107(d), and its Order of Reference dated Tuesday, June 17,2008 to consider the 2008-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Research and Innovation.


The Minister, Mr. Wilkinson, made a statement and answered questions.

The Official Opposition Critic, Ms. Scott, made a statement.

The witness, Mr. Ross, answered questions.

It was agreed, - That, in the absence of a member of the Third Party, the Third Party's available time be stacked and carried over to the next meeting.

The Parliamentary Assistant, Mr. Delaney, made a statement.

At 11: 17 a.m., the Acting Chair (Mr. Delaney) assumed the chair.

At 11 :21 a.m., the Chair resumed the chair.

At 11 :58 a.m., the Committee adjourned until 4:00 p.m. on Tuesday, September 23,2008.


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MEETING NUMBER 15

TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 23, 2008



Members of the Committee present: Kim Craitor, MPP; Bob Delaney, MPP; Tim Hudak, MPP; Arnrit Mangat, MPP; Phil McNeely, MPP; Lou Rinaldi, MPP.

Substitutions present: Michael Prue, MPP for Gilles Bisson, MPP; Laurie Scott, MPP for Garfield Dunlop, MPP.

Member, not of the Committee, present: Randy Hillier, MPP.




The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 107(d), to resume consideration of the 2008-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Research and Innovation.


The Minister, Mr. Wilkinson, answered questions.






EXHIBIT NO. 1I01l086A

RESEARCH AND INFORMATION SERVICES - Memorandum dated September 5, 2008 entitled "Outstanding Questions-Hearings on the Ministry of Research and Innovation's Estimates (September 4,2008)."

RESEARCH AND INFORMATION SERVICES - Memorandum dated September 10, 2008 entitled "Outstanding Questions: Ministry of Northern Development and Mines - September 3, 2008."

MINISTRY OF NORTHERN DEVELOPMENT AND MINES - Letter dated September 4, 2008 addressed to the Clerk of the Committee.

MINISTRY OF NORTHERN DEVELOPMENT AND MINES - Memorandum dated September 18, 2008 entitled "Outstanding Questions: Ministry of Northern Development and Mines -September 3, 2008."

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MINISTRY OF NORTHERN DEVELOPMENT AND MINES - Document dated January 7, 2005 entitled "Ministry of Northern Development and Mines - Request for Proposal No.: SSB-070830."

MINISTERE DE LA SECURITE COMMUNAUT AIRE ET DES SERVICES CORRECTIONNELS Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et la planification axee sur les resultats 2008-2009.

MINISTERE DES AFF AIRES MUNICIPALES ET DU LOGEMENT - Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et la planification axee sur les resultats 2008-2009.

At 5:53 p.m., the Committee adjourned until 4:00 p.m. on Wednesday, September 24,2008.




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MEETING NUMBER 16



The Committee met at 4:01 p.m. this day, the Vice-Chair, Mr. Dunlop, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Kim Craitor, MPP; Bob Delaney, MPP; Garfield Dunlop, MPP; Amrit Mangat, MPP; Phil McNeely, MPP; Lou Rinaldi, MPP.

Substitutions present: Randy Hillier, MPP for Tim Hudak, MPP; Michael Prue, MPP for Gilles Bisson, MPP; Laurie Scott, MPP for John O'Toole, MPP.




The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 107(d), to resume consideration of the 2008-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Research and Innovation.


The Minister, Mr. Wilkinson, answered questions.



Vote 4301 carried.

The 2008-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Research and Innovation carried.

Ordered, - That the 2008-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Research and Innovation be reported, without amendment, to the House.

At 5:20 p.m., the Committee adjourned until 9:00 a.m. on Tuesday, September 30, 2008.



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MEETING NUMBER 17




Members of the Committee present: Kim Craitor, MPP; Bob Delaney, MPP; Tim Hudak, MPP; Amrit Mangat, MPP (a.m. only); Phil McNeely, MPP; Lou Rinaldi, MPP (p.m. only).

Substitutions present: Vic Dhillon, MPP for Lou Rinaldi, MPP (a.m. only); Vic Dhillon, MPP for Amrit Mangat, MPP (p.m. only).

Members, not of the Committee, present: Bob Bailey, MPP; Cheri DiNovo, MPP; Randy Hillier, MPP; Peter Kormos, MPP; Paul Miller, MPP (Hamilton EastStoney Creek).

Appearing: The Honourable Peter Fonseca, MPP, Minister of Labour.

Witnesses: From the Ministry of Labour: Virginia M. West, Deputy Minister; Susanna Zagar, Assistant Deputy Minister, Policy, Program Development and Dispute Resolution Services Division.


The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 107(d), to consider the 2008-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Labour.


The Minister, Mr. Fonseca, made a statement and answered questions.

The Official Opposition Critic, Mr. Bailey, made a statement.

The witness, Ms. West, answered questions.

The Third Party Spokesperson, Mr. Miller, made a statement.

The witness, Ms. Zagar, answered questions.


It was agreed, - That the Chair would write to the three House Leaders to relay the Committee's request for changes to the order of consideration of the 2008-2009 Estimates of selected ministries, and to the deadline for reporting the 2008-2009 Estimates of selected ministries to the House.




MINISTRY OF LABOUR - Letter dated June 6, 2008 addressed to Mayor Fred Eisenberg of the City of Hamilton from the Large Urban Mayors' Caucus of Ontario (LUMCO).

MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND LONG-TERM CARE - Document dated September 26, 2008

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entitled "Standing Committee on Estimates: Outstanding Questions and Responses - Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care" with attachments: Attachment A: Building a Better System; Attachment B: Interim Contract Management Guidelines for Community Care Access Centres; Attachment C: Medical Records; Attachment D: Interim Contract Management Guidelines for Community Care Access Centres; Attachment E: Examples for Each Step of the Prioritization Framework.

At 5:53 p.m., the Committee adjourned until 4:00 p.m. on Wednesday, October 1, 2008.

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MEETING NUMBER 18

WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 1,2008


The Committee met at 4:01 p.m. this day, the Chair, Mr. Hudak:, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Bob Delaney, MPP; Tim Hudak, MPP; Amrit Mangat, MPP; Phil McNeely, MPP; Lou Rinaldi, MPP.

Substitutions present: Bob Bailey, MPP for Garfield Dunlop, MPP; Vic Dhillon, MPP for Kim Craitor, MPP; Randy Hillier, MPP for John O'Toole, MPP.

Member, not of the Committee, present: Paul Miller, MPP (Hamilton East-Stoney Creek).


Witnesses: From the Ministry of Labour: Virginia M. West, Deputy Minister; Sophie Dennis, Assistant Deputy Minister, Operations Division; Susanna Zagar, Assistant Deputy Minister, Policy, Program Development and Dispute Resolution Services Division.


The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 107(d), to resume consideration of the 2008-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Labour.


The Minister, Mr. Fonseca, answered questions.

The witnesses, Ms. Dennis and Ms. West, answered questions.

At 5 :07 p.m., the Acting Chair (Mr. Rinaldi) assumed the chair.

At 5 :21 p.m., the Chair resumed the chair.


At 5:34 p.m., the Committee adjourned until 9:00 a.m. on Tuesday, October 7, 2008.




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MEETING NUMBER 19

TUESDAY, OCTOBER 7, 2008


The Committee met at 3 :58 p.m. this day, the Vice-Chair, Mr. Dunlop, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Bob Delaney, MPP; Garfield Dunlop, MPP; Arnrit Mangat, MPP; Phil McNeely, MPP.

Substitutions present: Joe Dickson, MPP for Kim Craitor, MPP; Vic Dhillon, MPP for Lou Rinaldi, MPP.

Members, not of the Committee, present: Bob Bailey, MPP; Randy Hillier, MPP; Paul Miller, MPP (Hamilton East-Stoney Creek).


Witnesses: From the Ministry of Labour: Len Marino, Chief Administrative Officer, Internal Administrative Services Division; Sophie Dennis, Assistant Deputy Minister, Operations Division; Susanna Zagar, Assistant Deputy Minister, Policy, Program Development and Dispute Resolution Services Division.

In Attendance: A vrum Fenson, Research Officer.

The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 107(d), and its Order of Reference dated Monday, October 6, 2008 to resume consideration of the 2008-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Labour.



The Minister, Mr. Fonseca, answered questions.

The witnesses, Ms. Dennis and Mr. Marino, answered questions.



The Vice-Chair called Votes 1601 to 1605 inclusive.


The 2008-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Labour carried.

Ordered, - That the 2008-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Labour be reported, without amendment, to the House.


EXHIBIT NO. 1/01/091 RESEARCH AND INFORMATION SERVICES Memorandum dated October 2, 2008 entitled

"Outstanding Questions: Ministry of Research and Innovation - September 23 and 24, 2008."

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RESEARCH AND INFORMATION SERVICES Memorandum dated October 2, 2008 entitled

"Outstanding Questions: Ministry of Labour -September 30, 2008."

RESEARCH AND INFORMATION SERVICES - Memorandum dated October 2, 2008 entitled "Outstanding Questions: Ministry of Labour October 1,2008."

RESEARCH AND INFORMATION SERVICES - Memorandum dated October 6, 2008 entitled "Follow-up on Outstanding Questions: Ministry of Labour - October 1,2008."

At 5:27 p.m., the Committee adjourned until 4:00 p.m. on Wednesday, October 15,2008.




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MEETING NUMBER 20

WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 15,2008



Members of the Committee present: Gilles Bisson, MPP; Kim Craitor, MPP; Bob Delaney, MPP; Tim Hudak, MPP; Amrit Mangat, MPP; Phil McNeely, MPP.

Substitutions present: Ted Arnott, MPP for Garfield Dunlop, MPP; Liz Sandals, MPP for Lou Rinaldi, MPP.

Member, not of the Committee, present: Maria Van Bommel, MPP.

Appearing: The Honourable Leona Dombrowsky, MPP, Minister of Agriculture, Food and Rural Affairs.

Witnesses: From the Ministry of Agriculture, Food and Rural Affairs: Bruce Archibald, Deputy Minister; Christine Kuepfer, Director, Farm Finance Branch.

In Attendance: Carrie Hull, Research Officer.

The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 1 OS( d), and its Orders of Reference dated Monday, October 6 and Thursday, October 9, 200S, to consider the 200S-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Agriculture, Food and Rural Affairs.


The Minister, Mrs. Dombrowsky, made a statement and answered questions.

The Official Opposition Spokesperson, Mr. Amott, made a statement.

The witnesses, Dr. Archibald and Ms. Kuepfer, answered questions.




RESEARCH AND INFORMATION SERVICES - Memorandum dated October 15, 200S entitled "Outstanding questions: Ministry of Labour, October 7, 200S."

MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE, FOOD AND RURAL AFFAIRS - Speaking notes for the Honourable Leona Dombrowsky, MPP, Minister of Agriculture, Food and Rural Affairs, dated October 15, 200S.

At 5:55 p.m., the Committee adjourned until 9:00 a.m. on Tuesday, October 21, 200S.


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MEETING NUMBER 21




Members of the Committee present: Kim Craitor, MPP; Bob Delaney, MPP; Garfield Dunlop, MPP; Amrit Mangat, MPP (p.m. only); Phil McNeely, MPP; Lou Rinaldi, MPP.

Substitutions present: Bas Balkissoon, MPP for Arnrit Mangat, MPP (a.m. only); Howard Hampton, MPP for Gilles Bisson, MPP.

Members, not of the Committee, present: Ernie Hardeman, MPP; Maria Van Bommel, MPP.


Witnesses: From the Ministry of Agriculture, Food and Rural Affairs: Bruce Archibald, Deputy Minister; Karen Chan, Chief Administrative Officer and Assistant Deputy Minister, Research and Corporate Services Division; Deb Stark, Assistant Deputy Minister, Food Safety and Environment Division; Christine Kuepfer, Director, Farm Finance Branch.


The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 1 08( d), and its Orders of Reference dated Monday, October 6 and Thursday, October 9,2008 to resume consideration of the 2008-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Agriculture, Food and Rural Affairs.


The Official Opposition Critic, Mr. Hardeman, made a statement.

The Minister, Mrs. Dombrowsky, answered questions.

The witnesses, Ms. Kuepfer, Ms. Chan and Dr. Archibald, answered questions.


The witness, Dr. Stark, answered questions.


EXHIBIT NO. 1/01/097 RESEARCH AND INFORMATION SERVICES - Memorandum dated October 17, 2008 entitled "Outstanding Questions: Ministry of Agriculture, Food and Rural Affairs - October 15,2008."

At 5:44 p.m., the Committee adjourned until 4:00 p.m. on Wednesday, October 22,2008.


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MEETING NUMBER 22

WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 22, 2008


The Committee met at 4:03 p.m. this day.

Members of the Committee present: Gilles Bisson, MPP (until 5:00 p.m.); Kim Craitor, MPP; Bob Delaney, MPP; Tim Hudak, MPP; Amrit Mangat, MPP; Phil McNeely, MPP; Lou Rinaldi, MPP.

Substitution present: France Gelinas, MPP for Gilles Bisson MPP (5:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m.).

Member, not of the Committee, present: Ernie Hardeman, MPP.


Witnesses: From the Ministry of Agriculture, Food and Rural Affairs: Bruce Archibald, Deputy Minister; Dave Antle, Assistant Deputy Minister, Policy Division; Deb Stark, Assistant Deputy Minister, Food Safety and Environment Division; Bonnie Winchester, Assistant Deputy Minister, Economic Development Division; Brian Cardy, Director, Rural Community Development Branch; Christine Kuepfer, Director, Farm Finance Branch.


The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 1 08( d), and its Orders of Reference dated Monday, October 6 and Thursday, October 9, 2008 to resume consideration of the 2008-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Agriculture, Food and Rural Affairs.

The Clerk of the Committee advised the Committee of the absence of the Chair and Vice-Chair of the Committee.

The Clerk of the Committee presided over the election of an Acting Chair of the Committee.

Mr. Bisson moved, - That Mr. Rinaldi do take the chair of the Committee as Acting Chair.

There being no further nominations, the Clerk of the Committee declared nominations closed and Mr. Rinaldi duly elected as Acting Chair of the Committee.

The Acting Chair (Mr. Rinaldi) assumed the chair.



The witnesses, Dr. Stark, Dr. Archibald, Ms. Winchester and Mr. Antle, answered questions.

At 4:23 p.m., the Chair assumed the Chair.

The witnesses, Dr. Cardy and Ms. Kuepfer, answered questions.

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EXHIBIT NO. 11011098 RESEARCH AND INFORMATION SERVICES - Memorandum dated October 22, 2008 entitled "Outstanding Questions: Ministry of Agriculture, Food and Rural Affairs - October 21,2008."




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MEETING NUMBER 23




Members of the Committee present: Kim Craitor, MPP; Bob Delaney, MPP (p.m. only); Tim Hudak, MPP; Arnrit Mangat, MPP; Phil McNeely, MPP; Lou Rinaldi, MPP.

Substitutions present: Howard Hampton, MPP for Gilles Bisson, MPP (a.m. only); Pat Hoy, MPP for Bob Delaney, MPP (a.m. only); Michael Prue, MPP for Gilles Bisson (Ministry of Finance only).

Members, not of the Committee, present: Toby Barrett, MPP; Ernie Hardeman, MPP.

Appearing: The Honourable Leona Dombrowsky, MPP, Minister of Agriculture, Food and Rural Affairs; The Honourable Dwight Duncan, MPP, Minister of Finance.

Witnesses: From the Ministry of Agriculture, Food and Rural Affairs: Bruce Archibald, Deputy Minister; Deb Stark, Assistant Deputy Minister, Food Safety and Environment Division.

From the Ministry of Finance: Peter Wallace, Deputy Minister; Steve Orsini, Assistant Deputy Minister, Office of the Budget and Taxation; John Whitehead, Assistant Deputy Minister, Fiscal Strategy and Coordination Division; Gadi Mayman, Chief Executive Officer, Ontario Financing Authority ..

In Attendance: Elaine Campbell and Ray McLellan, Research Officers.

The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order I 08( d), and its Orders of Reference dated Monday, October 6 and Thursday, October 9,2008 to resume consideration of the 2008-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Agriculture, Food and Rural Affairs.



The witnesses, Dr. Archibald and Dr. Stark, answered questions.


Vote 101 carried.

The Chair called Votes 107 and 108.


The 2008-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Agriculture, Food and Rural Affairs carried.

Ordered, - That the 2008-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Agriculture, Food and Rural Affairs be reported, without amendment, to the House.

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The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 1 OS( d), and its Order of Reference dated Thursday, October 9, 200S to consider the 200S-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Finance.


At 4:07 p.m., the Acting Chair (Mr. Craitor) assumed the chair.

The Minister, Mr. Duncan, made a statement and answered questions.

The Official Opposition Critic, Mr. Hudak, made a statement.

The witnesses, Mr. Orsini, Mr. Whitehead and Mr. Wallace, answered questions.


At 5:30 p.m., the Acting Chair (Mr. Craitor) resumed the chair.

The witness, Mr. Mayman, answered questions.






RESEARCH AND INFORMATION SERVICES - Memorandum dated October 23, 200S entitled "Outstanding Questions: Ministry of Agriculture, Food and Rural Affairs - October 22, 200S."

RESEARCH AND INFORMATION SERVICES - Memorandum dated October 24, 200S entitled "Special Warrants."

MINISTRY OF LABOUR - Memorandum dated October 24, 200S entitled "Outstanding Questions: Ministry of Labour - September 30, 200S."

MINISTRY OF LABOUR - Memorandum dated October 24, 200S entitled "Outstanding Questions: Ministry of Labour - October 1, 200S."

At 5:51 p.m., the Committee adjourned until 4:00 p.m. on Wednesday, October 29,200S.



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MEETING NUMBER 24




Members of the Committee present: Bob Delaney, MPP; Tim Hudak, MPP; Amrit Mangat, MPP; Phil McNeely, MPP; Lou Rinaldi, MPP.

Substitutions present: Kevin Flynn, MPP for Kim Craitor, MPP; Michael Prue, MPP for Gilles Bisson, MPP.

Appearing: The Honourable Dwight Duncan, MPP, Minister of Finance.

Witnesses: From the Ministry of Finance: Peter Wallace, Deputy Minister; Steve Orsini, Assistant Deputy Minister, Office of the Budget and Taxation; Dan Wright, Assistant Deputy Minister, Broader Public Sector Supply Chain Secretariat; Bob Christie, Chief Executive Officer and Superintendent of Financial Services, Financial Services Commission of Ontario; Gadi Mayman, Chief Executive Officer, Ontario Financing Authority.


The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 1 08( d), and its Order of Reference dated Thursday, October 9, 2008 to resume consideration of the 2008-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Finance.


At 4:04 p.m., the Acting Chair (Mr. Rinaldi) assumed the chair.

The Minister, Mr. Duncan, answered questions.

The witness, Mr. Wallace, answered questions.

At 4: 11 p.m., the Acting Chair (Mr. Delaney) assumed the chair.

The witnesses, Mr. Orsini, Mr. Mayman, Mr. Christie and Mr. Wright, answered questions.

At 5:51 p.m., the Committee adjourned until 9:00 a.m. on Tuesday, November 4, 2008.




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MEETING NUMBER 25

TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 4, 2008



Members of the Committee present: Kim Craitor, MPP; Bob Delaney, MPP (p.m. only); Garfield Dunlop, MPP; Tim Hudak, MPP; Arnrit Mangat, MPP; John O'Toole, MPP; Lou Rinaldi, MPP (p.m. only).

Substitutions present: Sophia Aggelonitis, MPP for Lou Rinaldi, MPP (9:45 a.m. to 10:30 a.m.); Wayne Arthurs, MPP for Lou Rinaldi, MPP (9:00 a.m. to 9:45 a.m.); Yasir Naqvi, MPP for Phil McNeely, MPP; Michael Prue, MPP for Gilles Bisson, MPP; Khalil Ramal, MPP for Bob Delaney, MPP (a.m. only).


Witnesses: From the Ministry of Finance: Peter Wallace, Deputy Minister; Pat Deutscher, Assistant Deputy Minister and Chief Economist, Office of Economic Policy; Steve Orsini, Assistant Deputy Minister, Office of the Budget and Taxation; Bob Christie, Chief Executive Officer and Superintendent of Financial Services, Financial Services Commission of Ontario; Helmut Zisser, Chief Administrative Officer and Assistant Deputy Minister, Corporate and Quality Service Division.


The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order lO8(d), and its Order of Reference dated Thursday, October 9, 2008 to resume consideration of the 2008-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Finance.



The witnesses, Mr. Deutscher, Mr. Wallace, Mr. Zisser and Mr. Christie, answered questions.


The witness, Mr. Orsini, answered questions.


EXHIBIT NO. 110111 03


RESEARCH AND INFORMATION SERVICES Memorandum dated October 30, 2008 entitled

"Outstanding Questions: Ministry of Agriculture, Food and Rural Affairs - October 28,2008."

RESEARCH AND INFORMATION SERVICES - Memorandum dated October 31, 2008 entitled "Outstanding Questions from Committee Hearings - Ministry of Finance (October 28 and 29,2008)."

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MEETING NUMBER 26

TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 18,2008



Members of the Committee present: Kim Craitor, MPP; Bob Delaney, MPP; Tim Hudak, MPP; Amrit Mangat, MPP; Phil McNeely, MPP; Lou Rinaldi, MPP.

Substitutions present: Yasir Naqvi, MPP for Kim Craitor, MPP (p.m. only); Michael Prue, MPP for Gilles Bisson, MPP; Mario Sergio, MPP for Lou Rinaldi, MPP (p.m. only).


Witnesses: From the Ministry of Finance: Peter Wallace, Deputy Minister; Bruce Bennett, Assistant Deputy Minister and Provincial Controller Office of the Provincial Controller; Pat Deutscher, Assistant Deputy Minister and Chief Economist, Office of Economic Policy; Sriram Subrahmanyan, Assistant Deputy Minister, Provincial-Local Finance Division; Bob Christie, Chief Executive Officer and Superintendent of Financial Services, Financial Services Commission of Ontario; Helmut Zisser, Chief Administrative Officer and Assistant Deputy Minister, Corporate and Quality Service Division.


The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 108(d), and its Order of Reference dated Thursday, October 9, 2008 to resume consideration of the 2008-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Finance.



At 9:08 a.m., the Acting Chair (Mr. Rinaldi) assumed the chair.

The witnesses, Mr. Zisser, Mr. Deutscher and Mr. Wallace, answered questions.

At 10: 18 a.m., the Committee recessed until 4:02 p.m.


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Vote 1208 carried.

The 2008-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Finance carried.

Ordered, - That the 2008-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Finance be reported, without amendment, to the House.




RESEARCH AND INFORMATION SERVICES - Memorandum dated November 7,2008 entitled "Outstanding Questions: Hearings on the Ministry of Finance's Estimates (November 4, 2008)."

MINISTRY OF LABOUR - Memorandum dated November 17, 2008 entitled "Outstanding Questions: Ministry of Labour - October 7, 2008."





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MEETING NUMBER 27

WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 19,2008

ROOM NO.1, QUEEN'S PARK


Members of the Committee present: Kim Craitor, MPP; Bob Delaney, MPP; Tim Hudak, MPP; Amrit Mangat, MPP.

Substitutions present: Helena Jaczek, MPP for Phil McNeely, MPP; Rosario Marchese, MPP for Gilles Bisson, MPP; Reza Moridi, MPP for Lou Rinaldi, MPP.

Members, not of the Committee, present: Randy Hillier, MPP; Laurie Scott, MPP.

Appearing: The Honourable John Milloy, MPP, Minister of Training, Colleges and Universities.

Witnesses: From the Ministry of Training, Colleges and Universities: Marie-Lison Fougere, Deputy Minister; Kevin French, Assistant Deputy Minister, Employment and Training Division; Richard Jackson, Director, Student Support Branch; Barry McCartan, Director, Postsecondary Finance and Information Management Branch; Noah Morris, Director of Corporate Management and Services.

In Attendance: Larry Johnston, Research Officer.

The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 108(d), and its Order of Reference dated Thursday, October 9,2008 to consider the 2008-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Training, Colleges and Universities.


The Minister, Mr. Milloy, made a statement and answered questions.

The witnesses, Mr. Morris, Mr. French, Ms. Fougere, Mr. McCartan and Mr. Jackson, answered questions.

At 5:54 p.m., the Committee adjourned until 9:00 a.m. on Tuesday, November 25, 2008.


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MEETING NUMBER 28




Members of the Committee present: Kim Craitor, MPP; Bob Delaney, MPP; Garfield Dunlop, MPP; Tim Hudak, MPP; Phil McNeely, MPP; Lou Rinaldi, MPP (p.m. only).

Substitutions present: Rosario Marchese, MPP for Gilles Bisson, MPP; Reza Moridi, MPP for Lou Rinaldi, MPP (a.m. only); Reza Moridi, MPP for Amrit Mangat, MPP (p.m. only); Yasir Naqvi, MPP for Amrit Mangat, MPP (a.m. only).

Members, not of the Committee, present: Laurie Scott, MPP; Peter Shurman, MPP; Jim Wilson, MPP.

Appearing: The Honourable John Milloy, MPP, Minister of Training, Colleges and Universities.

Witnesses: From the Ministry of Training, Colleges and Universities: Kevin French, Assistant Deputy Minister, Employment and Training Division; Shamira Madhany, Assistant Deputy Minister, Postsecondary Education Division; Patti Redmond, Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategic Policy and Programs Division; Richard Jackson, Director, Student Support Branch; Barry McCartan, Director, Postsecondary Finance and Information Management Branch.

In Attendance: Larry Johnston, Research Officer.

The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 108(d), and its Order of Reference dated Thursday, October 9, 2008 to resume consideration of the 2008-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Training, Colleges and Universities.


The Minister, Mr. Milloy, answered questions.

The witnesses, Ms. Redmond, Ms. Madhany, Mr. Jackson and Mr. McCartan, answered questions.

The Parliamentary Assistant, Mr. Moridi, made a statement.


At 4:03 p.m., the Chair assumed the chair.

The witness, Mr. French, answered questions.

At 4:39 p.m., there being a division in the House, the Chair suspended the meeting until 4:48 p.m.

At 5: 16 p.m., there being a division in the House, the Chair suspended the meeting until 5:25 p.m.


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The 2008-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Training, Colleges and Universities carried.

Ordered, - That the 2008-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Training, Colleges and Universities be reported, without amendment, to the House.





EXHIBIT NO. 1I01l110A

EXHIBIT NO. 1I011110B

EXHIBIT NO. 1I01l110C

RESEARCH AND INFORMATION SERVICES - Memorandum dated November 21, 2008 entitled "Outstanding Questions: Ministry of Finance - November 18,2008."

RESEARCH AND INFORMATION SERVICES Memorandum dated November 21, 2008

entitled "Outstanding Questions: Estimates of the Ministry of Training, Colleges and Universities."

MINISTRY OF TRAINING, COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES - Document entitled "Standing Committee on Estimates Responses November 2008."

JIM WILSON, MPP - Letter dated October 22, 2008 to Mrs. Kelly Ellis.

JIM WILSON, MPP - Letter dated October 22, 2008 to Ms. Stacey Cridland.

JIM WILSON, MPP - Correspondence dated October 2, 2008 from Mr. Arnold Radford.



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MEETING NUMBER 29

WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 26,2008



Members of the Committee present: Bob Delaney, MPP; Tim Hudak, MPP; Arnrit Mangat, MPP; Phil McNeely, MPP.

Substitutions present: Linda Jeffrey, MPP for Kim Craitor, MPP; Peter Tabuns, MPP for Gilles Bisson, MPP.

Member, not of the Committee, present: John Yakabuski, MPP.

Appearing: The Honourable George Smitherman, MPP, Minister of Energy and Infrastructure.

Witness: From the Ministry of Energy: Saad Rafi, Deputy Minister.


The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 1 08C d), and its Order of Reference dated Thursday, October 9, 2008 to consider the 2008-2009 Estimates of the Ministry of Energy.



The Official Opposition Critic, Mr. Yakabuski, made a statement.


EXHIBIT NO. 11011111 PETER T ABUNS, MPP - Third Party questions for the Ministry of Energy with attachment: "Schedule 13.2."


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MEETING NUMBER 30

TUESDAY, APRIL 28, 2009



Members of the Committee present: Gilles Bisson, MPP; Bob Delaney, MPP; Garfield Dunlop, MPP; Tim Hudak, MPP; Phil McNeely, MPP; Yasir Naqvi, MPP.

Substitutions present: Sophia Aggelonitis, MPP for Amrit Mangat, MPP; Helena Jaczek, MPP for Kevin Daniel Flynn, MPP.


The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 108(d).

Ms. Aggelonitis moved, - That the following changes be made to the membership of the Sub-committee on Committee Business:

Mr. Rinaldi be replaced by Mr. Naqvi.


Pursuant to Standing Order 60, the 2009-2010 Estimates of the following ministries were selected for review by the Committee:

Ministry of Economic Development (7.5 hours)

Ministry of Energy and Infrastructure (7.5 hours)

Ministry of Finance (7.5 hours)

Ministry of Research and Innovation (7.5 hours)

Ministry of Municipal Affairs and Housing (15 hours)

Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care (7.5 hours)

Ministry of Small Business and Consumer Services (7.5 hours)

Ministry of Community and Social Services (7.5 hours)

Ministry of Labour (7.5 hours)

Ministry of Tourism (7 hours)

Ministry of Aboriginal Affairs (8 hours)


EXHIBIT NO. 11011112 MINISTRY OF FINANCE - Responses to outstanding questions.

ADJOURNMENT:



EXHIBIT NO. 1/011114A

EXHIBIT NO. 1/011114B


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MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE, FOOD AND RURAL AFFAIRS - Responses to outstanding questions.

OF MINISTRY INNOVATION 2008 containing questions.

RESEARCH AND Binder dated November 25,

responses to outstanding

MINISTRY OF RESEARCH AND INNOV ATION - Package dated February 13, 2009 containing follow-up responses to outstanding questions: 2006 and 2008 Ontario Research and Innovation Council reports.

MINISTRY OF TRAINING, COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES - Responses to outstanding questions.

At 9:20 a.m., the Committee adjourned until 9:00 a.m. on Tuesday, May 12,2009.


ORDER:

ATTENDANCE:

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MEETING NUMBER 31

TUESDAY, MAY 12,2009



Members of the Committee present: Gilles Bisson, MPP (a.m. only); Bob Delaney, MPP (from 5:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m.); Garfield Dunlop, MPP; Kevin Daniel Flynn, MPP; Tim Hudak, MPP; Phil McNeely, MPP (a.m. only); Yasir Naqvi, MPP.

Substitutions present: Jim Brownell, MPP for Amrit Mangat, MPP; Ted Chudleigh, MPP for John O'Toole, MPP; Howard Hampton, MPP for Gilles Bisson, MPP (p.m. only); Helena Jaczek, MPP for Bob Delaney, MPP (a.m. only); Jeff Leal, MPP for Phil McNeely, MPP (p.m. only); Bill Mauro, MPP for Bob Delaney, MPP (3:30 p.m. to 5:00 p.m.).

Appearing: The Honourable Michael Bryant, MPP, Minister of Economic Development.

Witnesses: From the Ministry of Economic Development: Philip Howell, Deputy Minister; David Clifford, Assistant Deputy Minister, Corporate Services Division and Chief Administrative Officer; Fernando Traficante, Director, Investment Funding Programs.


The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 1 08( d), to consider the 2009-2010 Estimates of the Ministry of Economic Development.


The Minister, Mr. Bryant, made a statement and answered questions.

The Official Opposition Critic, Mr. Chudleigh, made a statement.

The witness, Mr. Howell, answered questions.


The Third Party Critic, Mr. Hampton, asked questions.

At 3:35 p.m., the Vice-Chair assumed the chair.


At 5: 15 p.m., the Committee recessed until 5 :21 p.m.

The witness, Mr. Traficante, made a statement and answered questions


EXHIBIT NO. 1/02/001 MINISTRY OF ABORIGINAL AFFAIRS -Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2009-2010.










EXHIBIT NO. 1/02/010A

EXHIBIT NO. 1I021010B









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MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE, FOOD AND RURAL AFFAIRS - Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2009-2010.

MINISTRY OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL -Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2009-2010.

CABINET OFFICE - Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2009-2010.

MINISTRY OF CHILDREN AND YOUTH SERVICES - Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2009-2010.

MINISTRY OF CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION - Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2009-2010.

MINISTRY OF COMMUNITY AND SOCIAL SERVICES - Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2009-2010.

MINISTRY OF COMMUNITY SAFETY AND CORRECTIONAL SERVICES Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2009-2010.

MINISTRY OF CULTURE Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2009-2010.

MINISTRY OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT - Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2009-2010.

MINISTERE DU DEVELOPPEMENT ECONOMIQUE Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et la planification axee sur les resultats 2009-2010.

MINISTRY OF EDUCATION Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2009-2010.

MINISTRY OF ENERGY AND INFRASTRUCTURE - Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2009-2010.

MINISTRY OF THE ENVIRONMENT -Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2009-2010.

MINISTRY OF FINANCE Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2009-2010.

OFFICE OF FRANCOPHONE AFF AIRS -Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2009-2010.

MINISTRY OF GOVERNMENT SERVICES -Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2009-2010.

MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND LONG-TERM CARE - Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2009-2010.

MINISTRY OF HEALTH PROMOTION -Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2009-2010.

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MINISTRY OF INTERNATIONAL TRADE AND INVESTMENT - Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2009-2010.

MINISTRY OF LABOUR Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2009-2010.

OFFICE OF THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR - Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2009-2010.

MINISTRY OF MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS AND HOUSING - Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2009-2010.

MINISTRY OF NATURAL RESOURCES -Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2009-2010.

MINISTRY OF NORTHERN DEVELOPMENT AND MINES - Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2009-2010.

OFFICE OF THE PREMIER - Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2009-2010.

MINISTRY OF RESEARCH AND INNOVATION - Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2009-2010.

MINISTRY OF REVENUE - Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2009-2010.

MINISTRY OF SMALL BUSINESS AND CONSUMER SERVICES - Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2009-2010.

MINISTRY OF TOURISM - Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2009-2010.

MINISTRY OF TRAINING, COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES - Results-based Plan Briefing Book 2009-2010.

MINISTRY OF TRANSPORTATION - Resultsbased Plan Briefing Book 2009-2010.



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MEETING NUMBER 32

WEDNESDA Y, MAY 13, 2009



Members of the Committee present: Bob Delaney, MPP; Garfield Dunlop, MPP; Phil McNeely, MPP; YasirNaqvi, MPP.

Substitutions present: Ted Chudleigh, MPP for John O'Toole, MPP; Howard Hampton, MPP for Gilles Bisson, MPP; Khalil Ramal, MPP for Amrit Mangat, MPP; Charles Sousa, MPP for Kevin Daniel Flynn, MPP.

Appearing: The Honourable Michael Bryant, MPP, Minister of Economic Development.

Witnesses: From the Ministry of Economic Development: Philip Howell, Deputy Minister; Fernando Traficante, Director, Investment Funding Programs.


The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 1 08( d), to resume consideration of the 2009-2010 Estimates of the Ministry of Economic Development.



The witnesses, Mr. Howell and Mr. Traficante, answered questions.

It was agreed, - That the Committee permit Mr. Hampton, who was unable to stay for the rest of the meeting, to bank his time until the next meeting, such that Mr. Chudleigh take 40 minutes (instead of 20) on the next round, and Mr. Hampton take 40 minutes during the next meeting.




EXHIBIT NO. 1/02/032 RESEARCH AND INFORMATION SERVICES - Memorandum dated May 13, 2009 entitled "Outstanding Questions - Ministry of Economic Development: May 12,2009."

At 6:00 p.m., the Committee adjourned until 9:00 a.m. on Tuesday, May 26,2009.

~01'~4~ Sylwia Przezdziecki,

Clerk of the Committee.



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ATTENDANCE:

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MEETING NUMBER 33

TUESDAY, MAY 26, 2009



Members of the Committee present: Gilles Bisson, MPP; Bob Delaney, MPP; Garfield Dunlop, MPP; Kevin Daniel Flynn, MPP (a.m. only); Tim Hudak, MPP; Phil McNeely, MPP; Yasir Naqvi, MPP; John O'Toole, MPP.

Substitutions present: Jim Brownell, MPP for Kevin Daniel Flynn, MPP (p.m. only); Helena Jaczek, MPP for Amrit Mangat, MPP.

Appearing: Jean-Marc Lalonde, MPP, Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of Economic Development.

Witnesses: From the Ministry of Economic Development: Philip Howell, Deputy Minister; Gail Paech, Associate Deputy Minister, Open for Business; Ken Albright, Assistant Deputy Minister (Acting), Economic Development Division; Fernando Traficante, Director, Investment Funding Programs.


The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 1 08( d), to resume consideration of the 2009-2010 Estimates of the Ministry of Economic Development.


The Parliamentary Assistant, Mr. Lalonde, answered questions.

The witnesses, Mr. Howell, Mr. Traficante, Mr. Albright and Ms. Paech, answered questions.

The committee recessed from 10:12 a.m. to 3:46 p.m.



Vote 901 carried.


Vote 902 carried.

The 2009-2010 Estimates of the Ministry of Economic Development carried.

Ordered, - That the 2009-2010 Estimates of the Ministry of Economic Development be reported, without amendment, to the House.


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MINISTERE DE L'ENERGIE ET DE L'INFRASTRUCTURE - Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et la planification axee sur les resultats 2009-2010.

MINISTRY OF FINANCE - Memorandum dated May 15, 2009 enclosing an errata and a replacement page for the 2009-2010 Resultsbased Plan Briefing Book.

RESEARCH AND INFORMATION SERVICES - Memorandum dated May 19, 2009 entitled "Outstanding Questions - Ministry of Economic Development: May 13,2009."

JOHN O'TOOLE, MPP - Official Opposition questions for the Ministry of Economic Development.

GILLES BISSON, MPP - Third Party Questions for the Ministry of Economic Development.





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MEETING NUMBER 34

WEDNESDAY, MAY 27, 2009



Members of the Committee present: Bob Delaney, MPP; Garfield Dunlop, MPP; Phil McNeely, MPP; Yasir Naqvi, MPP.

Substitutions present: Sophia Aggelonitis, MPP for Amrit Mangat, MPP; Laurel C. Broten, MPP for Kevin Daniel Flynn, MPP; Peter Tabuns, MPP for Gilles Bisson, MPP; John Yakabuski, MPP for John O'Toole, MPP.

Member, not of the Committee, present: Ted Arnott, MPP.


Witness: From the Ministry of Energy and Infrastructure: SaM Rafi, Deputy Minister.


The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 1 08( d), to consider the 2009-2010 Estimates of the Ministry of Energy and Infrastructure.



The Official Opposition Critic, Mr. Yakabuski, made a statement.

The Third Party Critic, Mr. Tabuns, asked questions.

The witness, Mr. Rafi, answered questions.




MINISTRY OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT Responses to outstanding questions, dated May

22,2009.

MINISTRY OF INFRASTRUCTURE

ENERGY AND Document entitled

"Ontario's Infrastructure Progress."

At 5:54 p.m., the Committee adjourned until 9:00 a.m. on Tuesday, June 2, 2009.



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MEETING NUMBER 35




Members of the Committee present: Bob Delaney, MPP (p.m. only); Garfield Dunlop, MPP; Kevin Daniel Flynn, MPP (until 9:30 a.m.); Tim Hudak, MPP; Amrit Mangat, MPP (p.m. only); Phil McNeely, MPP; YasirNaqvi, MPP.

Substitutions present: Laurel C. Broten, MPP for Kevin Daniel Flynn, MPP (9:30 a.m. to 10:30 a.m.); Helena Jaczek, MPP for Amrit Mangat, MPP (a.m. only); Helena Jaczek, MPP for Kevin Daniel Flynn, MPP (p.m. only); Dave Levac, MPP for Bob Delaney, MPP (a.m. only); Peter Tabuns, MPP for Gilles Bisson, MPP; John Yakabuski, MPP for John O'Toole, MPP.

Member, not of the Committee, present: John O'Toole, MPP.


Witness: From the Ministry of Energy and Infrastructure: Satid Rafi, Deputy Minister.


The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 1 08( d), to resume consideration of the 2009-2010 Estimates of the Ministry of Energy and Infrastructure.



The witness, Mr. Rafi, answered questions.


At 4: 1 0 p.m., the Vice-Chair assumed the chair.





MINISTERE DES FINANCES Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et la planification axee sur les resultats 2009-2010.

RESEARCH AND INFORMATION SERVICES Memorandum dated May 28, 2009 entitled

"Outstanding Questions: Ministry of Economic Development - May 26,2009."

RESEARCH AND INFORMATION SERVICES - Memorandum dated June 1, 2009 entitled "Outstanding Questions: Ministry of Energy and Infrastructure - May 27,2009."

ADJOURNMENT:


EXHIBIT NO. 1I02/043A


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MINISTRY OF ENERGY AND INFRASTRUCTURE Document entitled "18-Month Outlook from June 2009-November 2010," filed in response to outstanding questions.

MINISTRY OF ENERGY AND INFRASTRUCTURE Letter dated September 17, 2008 filed in response to outstanding questions.

At 6:02 p.m., the Committee adjourned until 3:30 p.m. on Wednesday, June 3, 2009.




ORDER:

ATTENDANCE:

PROCEEDINGS:



MEETING NUMBER 36

WEDNESDAY, JUNE 3, 2009



Members of the Committee present: Bob Delaney, MPP; Tim Hudak, MPP; Amrit Mangat, MPP; Phil McNeely, MPP.

Substitutions present: Lorenzo Berardinetti, MPP for Yasir Naqvi, MPP; Laurel C. Broten, MPP for Kevin Daniel Flynn, MPP; Peter Tabuns, MPP for Gilles Bisson, MPP; John Yakabuski, MPP for John O'Toole, MPP.


Witness: From the Ministry of Energy and Infrastructure: SaM Rati, Deputy Minister.


The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 1 08( d), to resume consideration of the 2009-2010 Estimates of the Ministry of Energy and Infrastructure.


It was agreed, - That the Committee would alter the length and order of rotations in order to conclude consideration of the Estimates of the Ministry of Energy and Infrastructure this day.


The witness, Mr. Rati, answered questions.


Vote 2901 carried.


Vote 2902 carried.


Vote 2903 carried.


Vote 2904 carried.

The 2009-2010 Estimates of the Ministry of Energy and Infrastructure carried.

Ordered, - That the 2009-2010 Estimates of the Ministry of Energy and Infrastructure be reported, without amendment, to the House.

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(p~-d ~M-c!l Sylwia Przezdziecki,

Clerk of the Committee.



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ATTENDANCE:

PROCEEDINGS:



MEETING NUMBER 37

WEDNESDA Y, JULY 29,2009



Members of the Committee present: Bob Delaney, MPP; Garfield Dunlop, MPP; Kevin Daniel Flynn, MPP; Phil McNeely, MPP.

Substitutions present: Wayne Arthurs, MPP for Yasir Naqvi, MPP; Kuldip Kular, MPP for Amrit Mangat, MPP; Norm Miller, MPP (Parry Sound-Muskoka) for John O'Toole, MPP; Michael Prue, MPP for Gilles Bisson, MPP; Norm Sterling, MPP for Tim Hudak, MPP.

Member, not of the Committee, present: Robert Bailey, MPP.


Witnesses: From the Ministry of Finance: Peter Wallace, Deputy Minister; Pat Deutscher, Assistant Deputy Minister and Chief Economist, Office of Economic Policy; Rick Kennedy, Chief Internal Auditor and Assistant Deputy Minister, Ontario Internal Audit Division; Steve Orsini, Assistant Deputy Minister, Office of the Budget and Taxation.


The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 108(d), and to its Order of Reference dated Wednesday, June 3, 2009 to consider the 2009-2010 Estimates of the Ministry of Finance.

The Committee received the Report of the Sub-committee as follows:

REPORT OF THE SUB-COMMITTEE

Your Sub-committee on Committee Business met on Friday, June 12, 2009 to consider the Committee's summer schedule, and recommends the following:

1. That, pursuant to the Order of the House dated Wednesday, June 3, 2009, the Committee meet one day during the summer adjournment, on Wednesday, July 29, 2009, to consider the Estimates of the Ministry of Finance for seven and a half hours.

2. That the Committee meet from 9:00 a.m. to 1 :00 p.m. and from 2:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m. that day, with two IS-minute breaks, and that the Clerk of the Committee obtain confirmation of the meeting time from the Chair before posting a meeting agenda.

3. That the Clerk of the Committee update the Monthly Committee Calendar posted on the Legislative Assembly website to reflect the meeting on July 29, 2009.

4. That the Committee not meet on Thursday, July 30, 2009, a date on which it was authorized to meet pursuant to the Order of the House dated Wednesday, June 3, 2009.


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Mr. Delaney moved, - That the Report of the Sub-committee be adopted.


TheVice-Chair called Vote 1201.

The Minister, Mr. Duncan, made a statement and answered questions.

The Official Opposition critic, Mr. Miller (Parry Sound-Muskoka), made a statement.

The Third Party Critic, Mr. Prue, asked questions.

The witnesses, Mr. Orsini and Mr. Wallace, answered questions.

At 10:53 a.m., the Committee recessed until 11 :02 a.m.

The Parliamentary Assistant, Mr. Arthurs, made a statement.

At 1 :04 p.m., the Committee recessed until 2:05 p.m.

The witness, Mr. Deutscher, answered questions.

It was agreed, - That the Government would stand down one 20 minute rotation.

The witness, Mr. Kennedy, answered questions.


Vote 1201 carried.


Vote 1202 carried.


Vote 1203 carried.


Vote 1204 carried.


Vote 1208 carried.

The 2009-2010 Estimates of the Ministry of Finance carried.

Ordered, - That the 2009-2010 Estimates of the Ministry of Finance be reported, without amendment, to the House.


EXHIBIT NO. 1102/044 RESEARCH AND INFORMATION SERVICES - Memorandum dated June 11, 2009 entitled "Outstanding Questions - Ministry of Energy and Infrastructure - meetings of June 2 and 3, 2009."














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MINISTERE DES AFFAIRES AUTOCHTONES - Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et Ia planification axee sur Ies resultats 2009-2010.

MINISTERE DES AFF AIRES CIVIQUES ET DE L'IMMIGRATION Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et Ia planification axee sur Ies resultats 2009-2010.

OFFICE DES AFF AIRES FRANCOPHONES -Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et Ia planification axee sur Ies resultats 2009-2010.

MINISTERE DES AFF AIRES MUNICIP ALES ET DU LOGEMENT - Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et Ia planification axee sur Ies resultats 2009-2010.

MINISTERE DE L'ALIMENTATION

L'AGRICULTURE, DE ET DES AFF AIRES

RURALES - Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et Ia planification axee sur Ies resultats 2009-2010.

MINISTERE DU COMMERCE INTERNA TIONAL ET DE L'INVESTISSEMENT Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et Ia planification axee sur Ies resultats 2009-2010.

BUREAU DU CONSEIL DES MINISTRES -Document d'inforrnation sur Ie budget des depenses et Ia planification axee sur Ies resultats 2009-2010.

MINISTERE DE LA CULTURE - Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et Ia planification axee sur Ies resultats 2009-2010.

MINISTERE DU DEVELOPPEMENT DU NORD ET DES MINES Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et Ia planification axee sur Ies resultats 2009-2010.

MINISTERE DE L'EDUCA nON Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et Ia planification axee sur Ies resultats 2009-2010.

MINISTERE DE L'ENVIRONNEMENT Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et Ia planification axee sur Ies resultats 2009-2010.

MINISTERE DE LA FORMATION ET DES COLLEGES ET UNIVERSITES - Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et Ia planification axee sur Ies resultats 2009-2010.














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MINISTERE DES PETITES ENTREPRISES ET DES SERVICES AUX CONSOMMATEURS -Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et Ia planification axee sur les resultats 2009-2010.

CABINET DU PREMIER MINISTRE Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et Ia planification axee sur Ies resuitats 2009-2010.

MINISTERE DU PROCUREUR GENERAL -Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et la planification axee sur les resultats 2009-2010.

MINISTERE DE LA PROMOTION DE LA SANTE - Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et Ia planification axee sur Ies resultats 2009-2010.

MINISTERE DE LA RECHERCHE ET DE L'INNOVATION Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et la planification axee sur les resultats 2009-2010.

MINISTERE DU REVENU Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et Ia planification axee sur Ies resultats 2009-2010.

MINISTERE DES RICHESSES NATURELLES - Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et Ia planification axee sur Ies resultats 2009-2010.

MINISTERE DE LA SANTE ET DES SOINS DE LONGUE DUREE Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et la planification axee sur Ies resultats 2009-2010.

MINISTERE DE LA COMMUNAUTAIRE ET DES

SECURITE SERVICES

CORRECTIONNELS - Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et la planification axee sur Ies resultats 2009-2010.

MINISTERE DES SERVICES A L'ENF ANCE ET A LA JEUNESSE - Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et Ia planification axee sur Ies resultats 2009-2010.

MINISTERE DES SERVICES SOCIAUX ET COMMUNAUT AIRES Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et Ia planification axee sur Ies resultats 2009-2010.

MINISTERE DU TOURISME - Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et Ia planification axee sur les resultats 2009-2010.

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MINISTERE DES TRANSPORTS - Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et la planification axee sur les resultats 2009-2010.

MINISTERE DU TRA V AIL - Document d'information sur Ie budget des depenses et la planification axee sur les resultats 2009-2010.





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ORDER:

ATTENDANCE:

PROCEEDINGS:



MEETING NUMBER 38

TUESDA Y, SEPTEMBER 15, 2009



Members ofthe Committee present: Robert Bailey, MPP (p.m. only); Gilles Bisson, MPP; Jim Brownell, MPP (p.m. only); Bob Delaney, MPP; Garfield Dunlop, MPP; Kevin Daniel Flynn, MPP (a.m. only.); Arnrit Mangat, MPP (a.m. only); Yasir Naqvi, MPP (a.m. only); Khalil Ramal, MPP (p.m. only).

Substitutions present: Laurel C. Broten, MPP for Phil McNeely, MPP (a.m. only); Reza Moridi, MPP for Kim Craitor, MPP (p.m. only); Jim Wilson, MPP for John O'Toole, MPP.

Appearing: The Honourable John Milloy, MPP, Minister of Research and Innovation.

Witnesses: From the Ministry of Research and Innovation: George Ross, Deputy Minister; Jeanette Dias D'Souza, Chief Administrative Officer and Assistant Deputy Minister, Corporate Services Division; Tony Rockingham, Assistant Deputy Minister, Innovation and Commercialization Division.


The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 1 08( d), to consider the 2009-2010 Estimates of the Ministry of Research and Innovation.


The Minister, Mr. Milloy, made a statement and answered questions.

The Official Opposition Critic, Mr. Wilson, made a statement.


The Third Party Critic, Mr. Bisson, made a statement.


The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 108(d).

The Clerk pro tern. of the Committee presided over the election of the Chair of the Committee.

Mr. Moridi moved, - That Mr. Dunlop do take the chair of the Committee as Chair.

Mr. Bisson moved, - That Mr. Bailey do take the chair of the Committee as Chair, Mr Bailey declined the nomination.

There being no further nominations, the Clerk pro tern. of the Committee declared nominations closed and Mr. Dunlop duly elected as Chair of the Committee.


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Mr. Wilson moved, - That Mr. Bailey be appointed Vice-Chair of the Committee.


Mr. Moridi moved, - That a Sub-committee on committee business be appointed to meet from time to time at the call of the Chair or at the request of any member thereof to consider and report to the Committee on the business of the Committee; that the presence of all members of the Sub-committee is necessary to constitute a meeting; that the Sub-committee be composed of the following members: the Chair as Chair; Mr. Delaney, Mr. O'Toole and Mr. Bisson; and that substitution be permitted on the Sub-committee.




Your Sub-committee on Committee Business met on Tuesday, September 15, 2009, and recommends the following:

1. That, if the Minister of Municipal Affairs and Housing is not able to appear before the Committee on Wednesday, September 30, 2009, the Deputy Minister or the Parliamentary Assistant attend the meeting on his behalf.

2. That the Minister of Economic Development and Trade be requested to appear before the Committee on the first Tuesday during the consideration of the 2009/2010 Estimates of the Ministry of Small Business and Consumer Services.

3. That the Minister of Consumer Services be requested to appear before the Committee for the remainder of the Committee's consideration of the 2009-2010 Estimates of the Ministry of Small Business and Consumer Services.

Mr. Bisson moved, - That the Report of the Sub-committee be adopted.


The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 1 08( d), to resume consideration of the 2009-2010 Estimates of the Ministry of Research and Innovation.

The witness, Ms. Dias D'Souza, answered questions.

The Parliamentary Assistant, Mr. Moridi, made a statement.

The witness, Dr. Rockingham, answered questions.




LEGISLATIVE RESEARCH SERVICE Memorandum dated August 10, 2009 entitled "Outstanding Questions: Estimates Committee Hearings (July 29,2009) - Ministry of Finance."

LEGISLATIVE RESEARCH SERVICE Memorandum dated August 13, 2009 entitled "Revision of Question No.6: Estimates Committee Hearings (July 29, 2009) - Ministry of Finance's Estimates."

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William Short, Clerk pro tern. of the Committee.



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MEETING NUMBER 39



The Committee met at 3:50 p.m. this day, the Chair, Mr. Dunlop, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Robert Bailey, MPP; Jim Brownell, MPP; Bob Delaney, MPP; Garfield Dunlop, MPP; Khalil Ramal, MPP.

Substitutions present: Reza Moridi, MPP for Kim Craitor, MPP; Michael Prue, MPP for Gilles Bisson, MPP; Shafiq Qaadri, MPP for Phil McNeely, MPP; Jim Wilson, MPP for John O'Toole, MPP.


Witnesses: From the Ministry of Research and Innovation: George Ross, Deputy Minister; Tony Rockingham, Assistant Deputy Minister, Innovation and Commercialization Division; Bill Mantel, Director, Commercialization Branch.





At 4:11 p.m., the Vice-Chair assumed the Chair.


At 4:31 p.m., the Chair resumed the Chair.

The witness, Mr. Mantel, answered questions.

The witness, Dr. Rockingham, answered questions.





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MEETING NUMBER 40

WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 23,2009



Members of the Committee present: Robert Bailey, MPP; Bob Delaney, MPP; Garfield Dunlop, MPP; Phil McNeely, MPP; John O'Toole, MPP; Khalil Ramal, MPP.

Substitutions present: Wayne Arthurs, MPP for Jim Brownell, MPP; Jean-Marc Lalonde, MPP for Khalil Ramal, MPP (4:30 p.m. to 6:00 p.m.); Paul Miller, MPP (Hamilton East - Stoney Creek) for Gilles Bisson, MPP; Reza Moridi, MPP for Kim Craitor, MPP.


Witnesses: From the Ministry of Research and Innovation: George Ross, Deputy Minister; Tony Rockingham, Assistant Deputy Minister, Innovation and Commercialization Division; Bill Mantel, Director, Commercialization Branch.







At 4: 1 0 p.m., the Chair resumed the chair.

The witnesses, Mr. Mantel and Dr. Rockingham, answered questions.


Vote 4301 carried.

The 2009-2010 Estimates of the Ministry of Research and Innovation carried.

Ordered, - That the 2009-2010 Estimates of the Ministry of Research and Innovation be reported, without amendment, to the House.


EXHIBIT NO. 1/02/073 LEGISLATIVE RESEARCH SERVICE Memorandum dated September 22, 2009 entitled "Outstanding Questions: Ministry of Research and Innovation - September 15 and 16, 2009."

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MEETING NUMBER 41



. The Committee met at 9:00 a.m. this day, the Chair, Mr. Dunlop, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Robert Bailey, MPP; Bob Delaney, MPP; Garfield Dunlop, MPP; Phil McNeely, MPP; Khalil Ramal, MPP.

Substitutions present: Wayne Arthurs, MPP for Jim Brownell, MPP (a.m. only); Wayne Arthurs, MPP for Kim Craitor, MPP (p.m. only); Bruce Crozier, MPP for Kim Craitor, MPP (a.m. only); Michael Prue, MPP for Gilles Bisson, MPP; Lou Rinaldi, MPP for Jim Brownell, MPP (p.m. only); Joyce Savoline, MPP for John O'Toole, MPP.

Members, not of the Committee, present: Ted Amott, MPP; Paul Miller, MPP (Hamilton East - Stoney Creek).

Appearing: The Honourable Jim Watson, MPP, Minister of Municipal Affairs and Housing.

Witnesses: From the Ministry of Municipal Affairs and Housing: Fareed Amin, Deputy Minister; Larry Clay, Regional Director, Central Municipal Services Office; Joanne Davies, Director, Legal Services Branch.

In Attendance: Konata Lake, Research Officer.

The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 108(d), to consider the 2009-2010 Estimates of the Ministry of Municipal Affairs and Housing.


The Minister, Mr. Watson, made a statement and answered questions.

The Official Opposition Critic, Mrs. Savoline, made a statement.


The Third Party Critic, Mr. Prue, made a statement.




Your Sub-committee on Committee Business met on Tuesday, September 29, 2009, and recommends the following:

1. That, the Minister of Economic Development and Trade be requested to appear before the Committee on Tuesday, November 17, 2009 during the consideration of the 2009-2010 Estimates of the Ministry of Small Business and Consumer Services.

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Mr. Arthurs moved, - That the Report of the Sub-committee be adopted.


The witness, Mr. Clay, answered questions.

The witness, Ms. Davies, answered questions.

By unanimous consent, the Committee agreed to request a delay of the Committee broadcast and publication of Committee Hansard pending further review.


EXHIBIT NO. 1/02/074 MINISTRY OF RESEARCH AND INNOV A TION - Cover letter from Minister Milloy, dated September 23, 2009, and document entitled "Outstanding Responses to Questions from the Standing Committee on Estimates" filed in response to outstanding questions



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MEETING NUMBER 42



The Committee met in closed seSSIOn at 3:51 p.m. this day, the Chair, Mr. Dunlop, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Robert Bailey, MPP; Bob Delaney, MPP; Garfield Dunlop, MPP; Phil McNeely, MPP; Khalil Ramal, MPP.

Substitutions present: Dave Levac, MPP for Jim Brownell, MPP; Michael Prue, MPP for Gilles Bisson, MPP; Joyce Savoline, MPP for John O'Toole, MPP.

Appearing: Lou Rinaldi, MPP, Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of Municipal Affairs and Housing.

Witnesses: From the Ministry of Municipal Affairs and Housing: Fareed Amin, Deputy Minister; Randy Hodge, Director, Community Partnerships and Projects Branch.


The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 108(d), to resume consideration of the 2009-2010 Estimates of the Ministry of Municipal Affairs and Housing.

At 4:27 p.m., the Committee met in public session.


The Parliamentary Assistant, Mr. Rinaldi, answered questions.

The witnesses, Mr. Amin and Mr. Hodge, answered questions.

At 5:30 p.m., the Committee met in closed session.

At 5:38 p.m., the Committee adjourned until 9:00 a.m. on Tuesd y, October 6,2009.




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MEETING NUMBER 43



The Committee met at 9:00 a.m. this day, the Chair, Mr. Dunlop, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Robert Bailey, MPP; Jim Brownell, MPP; Kim Craitor, MPP (a.m. only); Bob Delaney, MPP; Garfield Dunlop, MPP; Phil McNeely, MPP; Khalil Ramal, MPP.

Substitutions present: Michael Prue, MPP for Gilles Bisson, MPP; Lou Rinaldi, MPP for Kim Craitor, MPP (p.m. only); Joyce Savoline, MPP for John O'Toole, MPP.

Member, not of the Committee, present: Ted Amott, MPP.


Witnesses: From the Ministry of Municipal Affairs and Housing: Fareed Amin, Deputy Minister; Larry Clay, Regional Director, Central Municipal Services Office.




The Minister, Mr. Watson, answered questions.


At 10:20 a.m., the Committee recessed until 3 :53 p.m.

At 3:55 p.m., the Acting Chair (Mrs. Savoline) assumed the chair.





LEGISLATIVE RESEARCH SERVICE Memorandum dated October 1, 2009 entitled "Outstanding Questions: Estimates Committee Hearings (September 29-30) - Ministry of Municipal Affairs and Housing.

LEGISLATIVE RESEARCH SERVICE Memorandum dated October 5, 2009 entitled "Outstanding Questions: Ministry of Research and Innovation - September 23,2009."



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MEETING NUMBER 44



The Committee met at 3 :36 p.m. this day, the Vice-Chair, Mr. Bailey, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Robert Bailey, MPP; Jim Brownell, MPP; Kim Craitor, MPP; Bob Delaney, MPP; Garfield Dunlop, MPP; Phil McNeely, MPP; Khalil Ramal, MPP.

Substitutions present: Howard Hampton, MPP for Gilles Bisson, MPP (3:30 p.m. to 4:20 p.m.); Michael Prue, MPP for Gilles Bisson, MPP (4:20 p.m. to 6:00 p.m.); Joyce Savoline, MPP for John O'Toole, MPP.

Member, not of the Committee, present: Paul Miller, MPP (Hamilton East Stoney Creek).


Witnesses: From the Ministry of Municipal Affairs and Housing: Fareed Amin, Deputy Minister; Dana Richardson, Assistant Deputy Minister, Local Government and Provincial Planning Division, and Assistant Deputy Minister (Acting), Housing Division; Rob Taylor, Assistant Deputy Minister, Municipal Services Division.





The witnesses, Mr. Amin, Dr. Taylor, and Ms. Richardson, answered questions.

At 3:55 p.m., the Chair assumed the chair.


Katch Koch, Clerk pro tern. of the Committee.


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MEETING NUMBER 45



The Committee met at 9:02 a.m .. this day, the Chair, Mr. Dunlop, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Robert Bailey, MPP; Jim Brownell, MPP (a.m. only); Kim Craitor, MPP; Bob Delaney, MPP; Garfield Dunlop, MPP; Phil McNeely, MPP; Khalil Ramal, MPP.

Substitutions present: Cheri DiNovo, MPP for Gilles Bisson, MPP; Lou Rinaldi, MPP for Jim Brownell, MPP (p.m. only); Joyce Savoline, MPP for John O'Toole, MPP.

Member, not of the Committee, present: Paul Miller, MPP (Hamilton East - Stoney Creek).


Witnesses: From the Ministry of Municipal Affairs and Housing: Fareed Amin, Deputy Minister; Dana Richardson, Assistant Deputy Minister, Local Government and Provincial Planning Division, and Assistant Deputy Minister (Acting), Housing Division; Larry Clay, Regional Director, Central Municipal Services Office.


The Committee met pursuant.to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 1 08( d), to resume consideration of the 2009-2010 Estimates of the Ministry of Municipal Affairs and Housing.



The witnesses, Mr. Amin, answered questions.

The witness, Ms. Richardson, answered questions.





At 5:29 p.m., the Acting Chair (Mrs. Savoline) assumed the chair.

At 5 :45 p.m., the Chair resumed the chair.


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Vote 1901 carried.


Vote 1902 carried.


Vote 1903 carried.


Vote 1904 carried.

The 2009-2010 Estimates of the Ministry of Municipal Affairs and Housing carried.

Ordered, - That the 2009-2010 Estimates of the Ministry of Municipal Affairs and Housing be reported, without amendment, to the House.


EXHIBIT NO. 1/02/077 LEGISLATIVE RESEARCH SERVICE Memorandum dated October 14, 2009 entitled "Outstanding Questions, Ministry of Municipal Affairs and Housing, October 6-7, 2009."




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MEETING NUMBER 46

TUESDAY, OCTOBER 27,2009



Members of the Committee present: Jim Brownell, MPP; Kim Craitor, MPP; Bob Delaney, MPP; Garfield Dunlop, MPP; Phil McNeely, MPP; John O'Toole, MPP; Khalil Ramal, MPP.

Substitutions present: Christine Elliott, MPP for Robert Bailey, MPP; France Gelinas, MPP for Gilles Bisson, MPP.

Appearing: The Honourable Deborah Matthews, MPP, Minister of Health and Long-Term Care.

Member, not of the Committee, present: Ted Chudleigh, MPP.

Witnesses: From the Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care: Ron Sapsford, Deputy Minister; Arlene King, Chief Medical Officer of Health, Public Health Division; Allison Stuart, Acting Assistant Deputy Minister, Public Health Division; Kevin Finnerty, Executive Director, Communications and Information Branch.

In Attendance: Lorraine Luski, Research Officer.

The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 1 08( d), to consider the 2009-2010 Estimates of the Ministry of Health and LongTerm Care.


The Minister, Ms. Matthews, made a statement and answered questions.

The Official Opposition Critic, Mrs. Elliott, made a statement.

The witness, Mr. Sapsford, answered questions.

The Third Party Critic, Mme. Gelinas, made a statement.


The witness, Dr. King, made a statement and, with Mr. Sapsford and Mr. Finnerty, answered questions.

At 4:55 p.m., the Acting Chair (Mr. O'Toole) assumed the chair.

The witness, Ms. Stuart, answered questions.


EXHIBIT NO. 1/02/078 LEGISLATIVE RESEARCH SERVICE Memorandum dated October 22, 2009 entitled "Outstanding Questions, Ministry of Municipal Affairs and Housing, October 20,2009."

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MINISTRY OF ENERGY AND INFRASTRUCTURE Cover letter from Minister Smitherman, dated October 13, 2009, and document entitled "2009 Standing Committee on Estimates Outstanding Questions and Answers" filed in response to outstanding questions.

MINISTRY OF ENERGY AND INFRASTRUCTURE Document dated December 22, 2008 entitled "Niagara Tunnel Project Geotechnical Baseline Report (GBR) Issued with Invitation to Submit Design/Build Proposals," filed in response to outstanding questions.

MINISTRY OF ENERGY AND INFRASTRUCTURE - Document dated April 5, 2005 entitled "Benefits of Smart Metering for Ontario," filed in response to outstanding questions.

MINISTRY OF ENERGY AND INFRASTRUCTURE Document dated May 20, 2005 entitled "Implementation Strategy for Smart Metering Initiative," filed in response to outstanding questions.

MINISTRY OF ENERGY AND INFRASTRUCTURE Document entitled "Infrastructure Expenditure ($ Millions)," filed in response to outstanding questions.





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MEETING NUMBER 47




Members of the Committee present: Robert Bailey, MPP; Kim Craitor, MPP; Bob Delaney, MPP; Garfield Dunlop, MPP; Phil McNeely, MPP; Khalil Ramal, MPP.

Substitutions present: France Gelinas, MPP for Gilles Bisson, MPP; Charles Sousa, MPP for Jim Brownell, MPP; Elizabeth Witmer, MPP for John O'Toole, MPP.


Witnesses: From the Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care: Ron Sapsford, Deputy Minister; Joshua Tepper, Assistant Deputy Minister, Health Human Resources Strategy Division; Allison Stuart, Acting Assistant Deputy Minister, Public Health Division.


The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 1 08( d), to resume consideration of the 2009-2010 Estimates of the Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care.


The witnesses, Mr. Sapsford and Dr. Tepper, answered questions.

The Minister, Ms. Matthews, answered questions.

The witness, Ms. Stuart, answered questions.





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MEETING NUMBER 48

TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 3,2009



Members of the Committee present: Robert Bailey, MPP; Jim Brownell, MPP; Kim Craitor, MPP (p.m. only); Bob Delaney, MPP; Garfield Dunlop, MPP; Phil McNeely, MPP; Khalil Ramal, MPP.

Substitutions present: Bas Balkissoon, MPP for Kim Craitor, MPP (a.m. only); Christine Elliott, MPP for John O'Toole, MPP; France Gelinas, MPP for Gilles Bisson, MPP.


Witnesses: From the Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care: Ron Sapsford, Deputy Minister; John McKinley, Assistant Deputy Minister, Health System Information Management and Investment Division; Joshua Tepper, Assistant Deputy Minister, Health Human Resources Strategy Division.


The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 1 08( d), to resume consideration of the 2009-2010 Estimates of the Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care.


The witnesses, Mr. Sapsford and Mr. McKinley, answered questions.

The Minister, Ms. Matthews, answered questions.

At 10: 17 a.m., the Committee recessed until 3 :55 p.m.

The witness, Dr. Tepper, answered questions.


Vote 1401 carried.


Vote 1402 carried.


Vote 1403 carried.


Vote 1405 carried.


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Vote 1406 carried.


Vote 1407 carried.


Vote 1411 carried.


Vote 1412 carried.

The 2009-2010 Estimates of the Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care carried.

Ordered, - That the 2009-2010 Estimates of the Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care be reported, without amendment, to the House.


EXHIBIT NO. 1/02/080 LEGISLATIVE RESEARCH SERVICE Memorandum dated November 2, 2009 entitled "Outstanding Questions: Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care - Tuesday, October 27,2009."

At 5:06 p.m., the Committee adjourned until 3:30 p.m. on Wednesday, November 4, 2009.




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MEETING NUMBER 49

WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 4, 2009



Members of the Committee present: Jim Brownell, MPP; Kim Craitor, MPP; Bob Delaney, MPP; Garfield Dunlop, MPP; Khalil Ramal, MPP.

Substitutions present: Cheri DiNovo, MPP for Gilles Bisson, MPP; Linda Jeffrey, MPP for Phil McNeely, MPP; Julia Munro, MPP for John O'Toole, MPP.

Appearing: The Honourable Ted McMeekin, MPP, Minister of Consumer Services.

Witnesses: From the Ministry of Consumer Services: Fareed Amin, Deputy Minister; John Mitsopulos, Director, Policy Branch.


The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 1 08( d), to consider the 2009-2010 Estimates of the Ministry of Small Business and Consumer Services.


The Minister, Mr. McMeekin, made a statement and answered questions.

The Official Opposition Critic, Mrs. Munro, made a statement.

The witness, Mr. Mitsopulos, answered questions.

The Third Party Critic, Ms. DiNovo, made a statement.



At 6:00 p.m., the Committee adjourned until 9 0 a.m. on Tuesday, November 17, 2009.


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MEETING NUMBER 50




Members of the Committee present: Robert Bailey, MPP; Jim Brownell, MPP; Kim Craitor, MPP; Bob Delaney, MPP; Garfield Dunlop, MPP; Phil McNeely, MPP; Khalil Ramal, MPP.

Substitutions present: Cheri DiNovo, MPP for Gilles Bisson (a.m. only), Howard Hampton, MPP for Gilles Bisson, MPP (p.m. only); Peter Shurman, MPP for John O'Toole, MPP.


Witnesses: From the Ministry of Economic Development and Trade: Keith West, Assistant Deputy Minister, Small and Medium Enterprise Division.


The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 1 08( d), to resume consideration of the 2009-2010 Estimates of the Ministry of Small Business and Consumer Services.


The Official Opposition Critic, Mr. Shurman, made a statement.


The witness, Mr. West, answered questions.

The Third Party Critic, Ms. DiNovo, made a statement.





EXHIBIT NO. 1/02/081 LEGISLATIVE RESEARCH SERVICE Memorandum dated November 6, 2009 entitled "Outstanding Questions: Estimates Committee Hearings (November 4) - Ministry of Small Business and Consumer Services."



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MEETING NUMBER 51

WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 18, 2009



Members of the Committee present: Jim Brownell, MPP; Kim Craitor, MPP; Bob Delaney, MPP; Garfield Dunlop, MPP; Phil McNeely, MPP; Khalil Ramal, MPP.

Substitutions present: Cheri DiNovo, MPP for Gilles Bisson; Julia Mumo, MPP for John O'Toole, MPP.

Appearing: The Honourable Ted McMeekin, MPP, Minister of Consumer Services.


The Committee met pursuant to its permanent Order of Reference, Standing Order 1 08( d), to resume consideration of the 2009-2010 Estimates of the Ministry of Small Business and Consumer Services.


The Minister, Mr. McMeekin, made a statement and answered questions.


Vote 3101 carried.

The 2009-2010 Estimates of the Ministry of Small Business and Consumer Services carried.

Ordered, - That the 2009-2010 Estimates of the Ministry of Small Business and Consumer Services be reported, without amendment, to the House.

At 4:52 p.m., the Committee adjoume 0 the call of the Chair.



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