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National Scout Youth Forums, Scout Senate and Yakkery
Full Report
23rd Australian Scout Jamboree
AJ2013 2 – 12 January 2013
Maryborough, Queensland
Prepared by:
Steve Tyas
National Adviser – NYC & Youth Forums
Scouts Australia
13th February 2013
2013 National Scout Youth Forums, Scout Senate and Yakkery Full Report
February 13, 2013
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Stephen Tyas
National Adviser:
National Youth Council and National Youth Forums
Scouts Australia
2013 National Scout Youth Forums, Scout Senate and Yakkery Full Report
February 13, 2013
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Contents Introduction ......................................................................................................... 5
With Thanks… .................................................................................................... 6
Delegates .......................................................................................................... 7
Scout Senate Delegates ................................................................................... 7
Evening Youth Forum Delegates ........................................................................ 8
Youth Forum Facilitators ..................................................................................... 9
Yakkery Activity Team ........................................................................................ 9
Special Guests at Scout Senate .......................................................................... 10
Topic 1 – The Australian Scout Medallion ................................................................ 12
Recommendations ......................................................................................... 12
Yakkery Recommendations ............................................................................. 14
Topic 2 – Bullying In Scouts ................................................................................. 18
Recommendations ......................................................................................... 19
Topic 3 – Indigenous Youth In Scouting ................................................................. 20
Recommendations ......................................................................................... 21
Topic 4 – Interstate Activities ............................................................................... 22
Recommendations ......................................................................................... 23
Topic 5 – Leadership Development ........................................................................ 25
Recommendations ......................................................................................... 25
Topic 6 – Publicity in Scouting .............................................................................. 26
Recommendations ......................................................................................... 27
Topic 7 – Uniform ................................................................................................ 29
Recommendations ......................................................................................... 29
Topic 8 – Scouts In Action Weeks .......................................................................... 31
Topic 9 – Rover Scouts ........................................................................................ 35
Topic 10 – The Promise & Law .............................................................................. 45
Topic 11 – Areas of Personal Growth...................................................................... 49
Coordinator’s Report and Recommendations ........................................................... 56
Topic Outcomes ............................................................................................... 56
The Yakkery .................................................................................................... 56
Evening Youth Forums & Scout Senate ............................................................... 57
Jamboree Committee Support ............................................................................ 58
Delegate Selection ........................................................................................... 59
Topic Selection ................................................................................................ 60
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Budget ............................................................................................................ 60
Appendix 1 – Yakkery Participation Log ............................................................... 61
Appendix 2 – Yakkery and Youth Forums Program ................................................ 62
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Introduction This is the full and final report emanating from the National Scout Youth Forums,
Scout Senate and Yakkery at the 23rd Australian Scout Jamboree held in January 2013
(AJ2013) at the Maryborough Showgrounds and Equestrian Centre, Queensland.
The report contains reports on the following topics:
Title Sourced From
1. The Australian Scout Medallion Senate & Yakkery
2. Bullying In Scouts Senate & Yakkery
3. Indigenous Youth In Scouting Senate
4. Interstate Activities Senate
5. Leadership Training Senate
6. Publicity In Scouts Senate
7. The Uniform Senate
8. “Scouts In Action” Program Yakkery (NYC)
9. Rover Scouts Yakkery (NRC)
10. The Promise & Law Yakkery
11. Areas of Personal Growth Yakkery
The purpose of the Yakkery is to obtain input from a large group of Scouts from the
combined Scout section membership base of Scouts Australia. The Jamboree provides an
opportunity to canvass the thoughts of a large number of Scouts at one time. At this
Jamboree, the Yakkery was a part of the “Do It” activity zone. This zone was designed
for patrols who are in camp as Duty Patrols. To achieve the Jamboree Award, patrols had
to complete three out of the five activities in the Do It zone. The Yakkery was therefore
NOT a mandatory activity. It was a short duration activity that involved engaging patrols
with a game of Giant Twister, and then directing them to one of a series of Topic Bases.
With the assistance of a member of the Yakkery staff, patrols then contributed ideas to
the topic at their base.
The Scout Youth Forums were a series of evening events that each Jamboree troop
was invited to send one delegate to. Scouts discussed and recorded their ideas on a
series of topics of the group’s choice. After three such evening forums, their ideas were
taken to the Scout Senate which was held all day on the last day of the Jamboree. At
this event, Scouts nominated by each branch plus representatives from each evening
forum collated all the ideas and prepared a series of reports. They formally presented
them to National & Branch Commissioners, and other special guests, at an afternoon
presentation.
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With Thanks… The task of putting together a series of youth forums and a “yakkery” at an event the
size of a Jamboree is challenging.
I would like to thank the following who’s cooperation and support ensured success:
Chris Neilsen, Chair, National Youth Council, Scouts Australia
Alison Maynard, Vice Chair, National Youth Council, Scouts Australia
John Clarke (NCYP) and members of the National Team
Pieter Van Der Kamp (Chief Director) and the Jamboree Committee, AJ2013
Kirsty Brown, Camp Chief, AJ2013
John Parr, Onsite Activities, AJ2013
Paul Parkinson, Peter Blatch, and Bryan Brown, for venue and catering support
Stephen Smart, Jamboree Registrations Database Administrator
Rob Fredericksen, BC Scouts, ACT
Shane Earnshaw, BC Scouts, WA
Phil Crutchley, SC Scouts, NSW
Carolyn Corkindale, BC Scouts, SA
Phil Harper, BC Scouts, Tasmania
Joan Dillon, BC Scouts, Victoria
Steve Marshall, BC Scouts, Queensland
Shane McCorkell, Chief Commissioner, NT
Nick Banks, BC BYC, SA
Janet Stephens, Tasmania Contingent
Samantha Roald, ACT Contingent
Contingent Leaders
Members of the National Youth Council, past and present
Jamboree Camp Ground Admin staff
The Yakkery Team
The Facilitators (you were the linchpin in this whole process.)
The Jamboree Line Leaders who encouraged their Scouts to participate
The Jamboree Troop Delegates and Branch Delegates; and most importantly…
The Scouts of the 23rd Australian Jamboree!
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Delegates Congratulations to the following Scouts who were nominated as delegates to the National
Scout Forums and Scout Senate at AJ2013:
Scout Senate Delegates
These Scouts worked hard on the day of the Scout Senate, and many also at one of the
evening youth forums:
Name
Troop No. Branch
Name
Troop No. Branch
Zane Bailey† B28 NT Freya Langerman-Thompson
D15 ACT
Sophie Bean H13 NSW Elyse Lenehan H55 ACT
Caleb Berechree† H15 Tas Kate MacClure O12 NSW
Karli Blunden D24 Vic Patrick Martini B04 WA
Tymekah Byrne O39 Qld Kai Matsumoto† O38 NSW
Liam Camilleri† B59 Vic Lexie McLeod† H05 Vic
Jyden Chancellor D63 NSW Tristan Miller† H55 ACT
Lola Collingbourne O53 NSW Rowina Nathan* O10 Vic
Nathan Comben† O33 ACT Lachlan Nicholson† D32 Vic
Hero Cook† B12 SA Heather Nugent† B32 ACT
Tahge Cull† B27 NSW Jasmine Papillo† H53 SA
Erica Dalton† B09 NT Samantha Payne† H36 SA
Jasmine D'Arcy B10 NSW James Pearce† H22 NSW
Willem De Blanc† B23 WA Callum Rosser B17 NSW
Xanthia Dubler* D61 Qld Isaac Stewart† O55 NSW
Catherine Everett B04 WA Paige Telford† H07 SA
Emily Ezzy† H46 Tas Holly Wardell O33 ACT
Amy Hammond D68 SA Daniel Warwick† H51 Vic
Laura Harrison† O11 Tas Hugo Webster H55 ACT
Charlee Howard-Osborne†
D10 Qld Thomas Young† D28 ACT
Sophie Kennedy† D53 NSW Armaan Zoeb† H04 WA
Madison Kydd† O22 Qld
* NYC Delegate † Branch Delegate (remainder were camping ground forum delegates elected to attend the Senate)
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Evening Youth Forum Delegates
The following Scout participated in the evening youth forums during the Jamboree.
Name Contingent Name Contingent
Liam Abdilla Vic Nathan Ibele SA
Phoebe Abrahams WA Ellen Ingham SA
Conor Ammett Vic Savannah Inouye WA
Monty Anderson NSW Sion James SA
Luke Ashcroft Vic Josh Jenkins Vic
John Astley Vic Lachlan Jetson Vic
Timothy Attard Vic Emma Johnston Vic
Harrison Babister NSW Max Jones Vic
Thomas Baker NSW Robert Jutrisa NSW
Tom Beresford SA Rohin Kehal WA
Rachel Blume NSW Trent King Vic
Timothy Brandt NSW Scott Klinkermann Vic
Michael Brien NSW Emily Lyon WA
Lachlan Buckanen Vic Callum Mahon NSW
Megan Cameron Qld Lizzie Martin NSW
Royce Carnelutti NSW Georgia Matthiesen WA
Alex Carter ACT Luke McAlpine ACT
David Chlonta Qld Ashley McCallum SA
Michael Cliffe Vic Jessica McConkey Qld
James Cole-Sinclair Vic Siobhan McGinn SA
Alison Colgan NSW Beckett McNeil NSW
James Collins NSW Aedhon Meehan Qld
Adrian Collins Qld Jemima Michell Qld
Emma Connolly WA David Nelson NSW
Daisy Coppa-Szitarity Vic Sharon Nguyen NSW
Josh Creek SA Bernadette Nitz Vic
Ethan Davies NSW Michael Olive Qld
Patrick Denny Qld Annabelle Parkinson Qld
Tom Durrant Vic Ian Patterson NSW
Maureen Edwards NSW Lucy Pennington NSW
Diederik Evanson NSW Michaela Phillips SA
Gabby Fallon WA Gabe Reisner NSW
Ben Fitton NSW Clare Reuther SA
Will Gardiner WA Stephen Scollay NSW
Christopher Gardner Vic Lindsay Small NSW
Zachary Geddes Vic Brendan Sydes Qld
Tim Goldney SA Megan Thomas SA
Nathaniel Golub Vic Joel Tomlinson WA
Darien Gray Vic Luke Trezise Qld
Benjamin Gunthorpe Vic Ethan Van Hilst NSW
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Name Contingent Name Contingent
Will Hall Qld Will Weber Vic
Timothy Hannan Vic Andrew Welch SA
Rebecca Heenan Vic Hugh Wetherill Vic
Samuel Holmes NSW Thomas Wilson NSW
James Hull NSW Gerry Wright Qld
Youth Forum Facilitators The role of facilitator is a tough balancing act, and these Rovers and Leaders deserve
special thanks for working hard with groups of Scouts to develop their ideas (especially
as they came to work outside their normal Jamboree assignment):
Name Branch Name Branch
Lizz Affleck SA Vicki Knopke Qld
Annie Asquith Vic Guy Knopke Qld
Leah Bach ACT Alison Maynard NSW
Phil Bryant NSW Johnathan Morey NSW
Jenny Danslow Qld Andrea Porteous Vic
Peter Fowler Vic Steve Reynolds NSW
Wayne Kerr Vic Samantha Roald ACT
Janet Stephens Tas
Yakkery Activity Team Under the leadership of Alison Maynard (Yakkery Manager) the Yakkery team worked
very hard in a hot and humid tent not just during the day, but afterwards to reconfigure
the tent for the evening sessions and then help with the youth forums:
Name Branch
Alison Maynard NSW
Johnathan Morey NSW
Lizz Affleck SA
Steve Reynolds NSW
Annie Asquith Vic
Guy Knopke Qld
Samantha Roald ACT
Invaluable extra assistance was kindly received from Phil Bryant (NSW), Sue Currie (Vic)
and Libby Hatton (Vic).
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Special Guests at Scout Senate With great pride, the Scouts of the Senate made a formal presentation of their findings
to a total of 64 special guests at the end of the day. They were:
Name Position Formation
Kirsty Brown Chief Commissioner & Camp Chief Queensland Branch
Pieter Van Der Kamp Chief Director Jamboree Executive Committee
Reg Williams Chief Commissioner Scouts Australia
John Clarke National Commissioner Youth Program Scouts Australia
Phil Crutchley State Commissioner Scouts New South Wales Branch
Joan Dillon Branch Commissioner Scouts Victorian Branch
Carolyn Corkindale Branch Commissioner Scouts South Australian Branch
Shane Earnshaw Branch Commissioner Scouts Western Australian Branch
Steve Marshall Contingent Leader Queensland Contingent
Greg Timney Contingent Leader Victorian Contingent
Shane McCorkell Contingent Leader Northern Territory Contingent
Helen Warrinier Contingent Leader New Zealand Contingent
Leah Bach National Adviser: NRC Scouts Australia
Peter Harris Chief Commissioner ACT Branch
Chris Bates Chief Commissioner SA Branch
Steve Tyas National Adviser: NYC & Youth Forums Scouts Australia
Alison Maynard Vice Chair National Youth Council
Terry Brooke Chief Director AJ2016
Peter Blatch National Youth Program Team Queensland Branch
Jan Goodall National Youth Program Team NSW Branch
Sheridan Bunney National Youth Program Team WA Branch
Janis Bates National Youth Program Team Scouts Australia
Jenny Danslow Group Leader Queensland Branch
Peter Fowler Jamboree Troop Leader AJ2013
Stephen Smart Jamboree Database Admin NSW Branch
Nick Banks Branch Commissioner Branch Youth Council South Australian Branch
Natasha Omar Marketing and Communications Scouts Australia National Office
John Willis Branch Commissioner - Performing Arts Victoria Branch
Martin Phelps Troop O39
Gai Johnston Troop O22 Nerang Scouts
Chris Dark Troop H55 Majura Mountain Scouts
Andrea Banks H53 South Australia Branch
Donna Hourigan Queensland Branch
Michael Wright ABC Major Events NSW Branch
Phil Bryant Service Leader NSW Branch
Greg Healy JTL ACT Branch
Vicki Knopke Queensland Branch
Graham Jackson Troop Leader Western Australian Branch
Robert Pitt JTL O13 Centenary - Gympie Scouts
Helen Chick JTL H46 Tasmania Branch
David Whittlesea JTL H07 Camden Park, SA
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Name Position Formation
Amanda Digweed JTL D10 2nd Toowoomba Scout Group
Braydon Glesen JTL D53
Jeff Stewart O55 NSW Branch
Noel Davar O53 ATL NSW Branch
Victoria Waling O53 ATL NSW Branch
Mary Page JTL B10 NSW Branch
Kelly Johnson National Pen Pal Coordinator Scouts Australia
Kathy Pitt ASL Queensland Branch
Greg Brown AJ2016 NSW Branch
Andrew Elms AJ2016 NSW Branch
Simon Hull Troop Leader Tasmania Branch
Gabriel Dubler Queensland Branch
Jenny Pitel JTL Western Australian Branch
Kevin Pestell DCC Adult Resource Western Australian Branch
Lizz Affleck Chairman Branch Youth Council, SA
Sam Roald ASL, BWRC Crew Leader ACT Branch
Tanya Howard-Osborne Queensland
Jay Howard-Osborne Queensland
Valmai Howard-Osborne Queensland
Kirsty Sandow Queensland
Todd Howard-Osborne Queensland
Ron Howlett Assistant District Commissioner Fraser District
Carole Howlett Region Commissioner Wide Bay/Burnett Region
Apologies were received from:
Name Position Formation
David Jones Chairman National Executive Committee
Chris Neilsen Chair National Youth Council
Shaun Sandilands Chair National Rover Council
Elston Hynd National Commissioner Adult Training and Development Scouts Australia
Paul Parkinson Deputy Principal (Academic) SAIT
Greg McDougall National Youth Program Team Victoria Branch
Julie Creed National Youth Program Team Tas Branch
Aaron Wardle Project Commissioner Youth Leadership Programs Scouts Australia
Nathan Delaney Branch Leader - Branch Youth Council Victorian Branch
Nick Bennett National Youth Council, WSJ2015 Deputy Contingent Leader
Scouts Australia
Phil Harrison Deputy Principal (Adventurous Activities) SAIT
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Topic 1 – The Australian Scout Medallion This topic was discussed at all three evening youth forums and was a topic in the
Yakkery. This report is compiled by the Senate based on input from the forums.
Group Members: Catherine Everett, Kai Matsumoto, Lachlan Nicholson, Nate Comben,
Paige Telford, Xanthia Dubler.
Background:
This topic explores the updates needed to the Scout Award Scheme, and the Australian
Scout Medallion (ASM). The ASM is the highest award in the scout section and very little
amount of scouts are gaining the award. Discussions included looking at the relevance of
the ASM to the Scout section. We also engaged in looking at ways the award scheme can
become more flexible. There are also some additions and reflections of badges in the
award scheme. This report also discovers for some recommendations for the future of
the ASM
Summary of Discussions:
Relevance of the Scout Award Scheme
Only some groups find the Scout Medallion completely relevant to them
We found that groups weren’t publicising the ASM to younger Scouts
Making the Scout award Scheme flexible
The National Youth Forum has found that the Scout Award Scheme is sufficiently
flexible to accommodate for Scout Troops and patrol leaders. Some Patrol leaders
didn’t feel that it was initially, but after discussion the Patrol Leaders realized that
they were accommodated.
Updates to the scout award scheme
The criteria for some proficiency and target badges are outdated or are in need of
reviewing.
The future of the ASM
Many scouts feel that by being able to wear a badge alongside their medallion,
once they have progressed from Scouts, would be a great way to show other
people their achievement.
Scouts felt that there were too many levels of sign off for approval of an ASM.
The current description in the Green Book about the ASM is too small and doesn’t
make scouts enthused to achieve the award.
There is a lack of records by held by leaders about what badges are held by each
scout.
Recommendations
Relevance of the scout award scheme
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1. Younger scouts need to be encouraged to begin working on the award scheme
early to make sure that Scouts have enough time to complete the award scheme
before their 15th birthday.
2. We could give a DVD to new scouts that have just linked up or have just been
invested explaining the system and promoting that the Australian Scout Medallion
is there to be completed and emphasis that there is actually an Medallion
involved. This might raise motivation.
Making the Scout award Scheme Flexible
3. No further changes are necessary to make the Award Scheme adequately flexible.
Updates to the scout award scheme
4. The crime prevention badge needs to be removed from the Award Scheme as this
badge is unnecessary and does not intrigue scouts.
5. The Get Out! Scheme needs to be nationalized (refer to appendices)
6. Combination of Top Rope Climbing, Abseiling and Caving (they have the same
requirements e.g. knots)
7. Combination of Sign Language Badge and ‘I Speak’ Badge
8. Move the Air Activity’s target badge into the proficiency
9. Addition to proficiency badges
o Geocaching
o Cooking
o Public Speaking and
Debating
o Designer (fashion)
o Architect
o Knotting
o Recycling
o Basic Hygiene
o Biking/BMX/Mountain
Biking
o Fishing
o Special Talent
The future of the ASM
10. The addition of a miniature ASM badge to be worn on future scout
uniforms/section uniforms
11. There needs to be less levels of signatures to get your ASM approved
12. Better description in the green book about what the ASM is
13. Record books need to be kept at every troop recording every members badge
progress
14. Green level Hikes have to have a national Standard
(e.g. Report, preparation)
15. A shirt that say “I have my ASM”. This Shirt would be
worn by Scouts at troop nights once they have got
their ASM showing outstanding proficiency in scouting.
Appendices:
Get Out Scheme Information:
www.dibbssm.net/getoutnsw/Get Out Scheme Guide.pdf
Display of Get Out awards on shirts:
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Yakkery Recommendations
As well as a discussion topic for the Scout Senate, the award scheme was looked at by
patrols who came through the Yakkery. Patrols were asked to indicate their engagement
with different elements of the Scout section award scheme.
92 patrols worked on this topic (about 550 Scouts).
What elements of the award scheme are still relevant today? As a patrol,
highlight in green those aspects that are definitely still relevant. Highlight in blue
those that are definitely not. Leave the rest as they are.
Target Badges
The Air Activities badge is considered irrelevant to many Scouts. Many said that it
should be moved into a Proficiency badge. Others said it was irrelevant because it
was only accessible to troops in some states where there was an Air Activities
activity team.
The Water Activities badge was also seen as less relevant to other Target badges.
Many patrols suggested combining Water Activities and Water Safety. Others
suggested moving Water Activities to a proficiency badge.
There is a strong level of relevance identified for ‘traditional’ Scouting activity
badges: Campcraft, Citizenship, Emergencies, construction, environment.
Some suggestion that there is too much “discussion” involved in the Citizenship
targets.
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Proficiency Badges
More patrols said these badges were irrelevant than relevant: Anthropology,
Crime Prevention, Literary Arts, and Modeler.
Collector and Commerce badges were about half each way.
Again, some of the ‘traditional’ Scouting themed badges remain relevant:
Abseiling, Bushcraft, Caving, Community, Fire Awareness, Outdoor, World
Scouting.
Animal Keeper, Team Sports, and Trade are strong as well.
There were many suggestions for combining proficiency badges that were similar.
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o combine bushcraft and survival. Or add to campcraft.
o only one badge for sporting
o combine performing arts, entertainer, art, craft, music
o combine sports badge
o Join Performing arts & entertainer
o Combine rock climbing and top rope
o Caving, abseiling, rock climbing
One suggestion was to move Fire Awareness into Campcraft. Another was to
move Community into Citizenship badge. Cultural Heritage could also go into
Citizenship.
Many suggestions for updating badges: ICT, technology, multimedia,
construction, science,
Other Badges
(TSOH – Their Service, Our Heritage. WSEB – World Scout Environment Badge)
Scouts think highly of the relevance of the patrol activities and the leadership
course.
Many patrols suggested combining the Sign Language and Language badges.
There was much debate amongst patrols about where the Anchor Badge exists.
Some states award it, while others don’t.
More patrols said that the Amateur Radio badge was irrelevant, than relevant.
One suggested Life Saving would be covered by Emergencies Target
Further Suggestions by Patrols
Your Patrol’s One Best Suggestion for the Award Scheme:
Proficiency badge camps should be organised and run.
Less badges but keep important ones.
Don’t double up on badge tests (eg red and blue have some same things)
Update the requirements of badges.
Add a badge for Scouts who work hard and doing a good job. Putting in effort.
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Make the pioneer badge harder to achieve and the explorer and adventurer
easier.
More requirements for the ASM (like the Grey Wolf)
You shouldn't have to be a PL or APL to get your scout medallion because it is
very unfair and most don’t achieve because of this.
Keep up to date
good how it is.
too hard to get ASM
change design of faith awareness
More modern day activities into the proficiency badges
Keep it the same just add a few more useful badges
No patrol activity to get your red cord
The award scheme is good for everyone’s hobbies. It shows what you can learn
and work on.
Create badges that are relevant to today.
Smaller badges
Make citizenship optional
More info on ASM
Update ICT badge
Journey needs more information
Colour the edge of the book pages according to the badge
Check for badges being relevant to our age
Make book fit in pocket
Section connection badge
More examples
Change so that red cord is the hardest
Suggestions for Additional Badges:
o Cooking (15 patrols suggested this)
o Social Media Badge - find
out pros and cons of social
media, choose one social
media site and learn how
to use it safely, find
history of social media (suggested 2 times)
o Rock Climbing
o Nights under canvas
badge (2 patrols)
o Bike badge
o survival badge. (3 patrols)
o Cake decorating,
o cartoon/drawing
o hiking km badge (2 patrols)
o Snow sports
o health and safety
o Extreme sports
o Geocaching (4 patrols
suggested)
o Gangshow (5 patrols suggested)
o gaming
o badge for non PL and APL
who show leadership
o service hours badge
o special interest badge
o Disability awareness
badge
o Fishing badge - know
regs, know where and how
to fish, catch or attempt to
catch a fish, 3 hours
fishing time
o Scouting history
o A sports badge for
extreme sports -
skateboarding, parkor
o Bullying Awareness badge
o Military badge - military
stats and weapons safety
o Jamboree badge - for
those who attend a
Jamboree
o Fitness/health
o Adventurous Activities
target badge - knowledge
and skills
o Remote area safety
proficiency
o Knot badge
o Internet explorer badge
o Firearms safety badge
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Topic 2 – Bullying In Scouts Input for the Senate’s work on this topic came mainly from the Yakkery. The group
pulled together information from the Yakkery to present this report.
Group Members: Freya Langerman Thompson, Amy Hammond, Charlee Howard-
Osborne, Holly Wardell, Lexie McLeod, Patrick Martini, Thomas Young
Background:
A survey was conducted at the 2013 Australian Jamboree in the Yakkery tent. Scouts
answered questions regarding bullying in the scouting movement. The data collected has
been the basis of this report. We, as the Scout Senate of the Australian Jamboree, have
compiled a report on bullying in the Scouting organisation.
Summary of Discussions:
The data suggests that there are many types of bullying in the scouting association,
however the data suggests that the two most prominent forms of bullying are sexism
and exclusion.
Our patrol divided bullying into five main categories. These categories are;
Physical
The act of physically using one's own body to harm another person.
Psychological
Using elements of other bullying to make another person uncomfortable.
Verbal
Verbally assaulting somebody in order to make them feel uncomfortable.
Social
When a group of people harass another person together.
Cyberbullying
Using on-line means to harass another person.
Sexism could occur in the scouting movement due to many circumstances. The scouting
organisation is a stereotypically male movement, and due to that, sexism may occur
towards the females of the organisation. Sexism may also occur due to the female
stereotype of being weak, helpless, and obsessed with personal appearance, and also
due to males wanting to show off and look strong.
However, sexism may also be misinterpreted as an honest attempt to help and assist,
and men may not understand that their chivalry is not appreciated.
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Sexism in the scouting movement is not restricted towards females, however, as male
members of the organisation may be discriminated against also. They may be
discriminated against in the area of the kitchen, which is stereotypically where the
women reside.
Exclusion was also one of the main topics brought up by the data. The Scout Senate
describes the act of exclusion as prevention of being included in a group of any sort, and
purposely attempting to make them feel lonely and isolated.
This act can occur in the Scouting movement by a group of people refusing others to
join in their activities. Exclusion can happen a lot more than think, as the Patrol Leaders
can exclude others in their activities by not inviting others to join in their activities.
Recommendations
The delegates of National Scout Forums and Scout Senate 2013 recommend that:
1. An on-line campaign consisting of social media, including the use of youtube
videos, intending to reach out to the scouting community to persuade them to
seek out a trustworthy leader if they are being bullied.
2. Establish a course to educate leaders, so that leaders are able to recognise the
signs if a child is being bullied, and how to talk to them if the child is too
frightened or ashamed to speak up.
3. Encouragement to include both genders in camp activities, and to monitor all
scouts thought scouts.
Bullying in the Scouting movement is a serious issue that needs to be addressed. We
believe that the recommendations that we have put forward will assist in alleviating the
problem.
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Topic 3 – Indigenous Youth In Scouting The Scout Senate used input from one of the evening youth forums to develop
recommendations for this topic.
Group Members: Jasmine D’Arcy, Emily Ezzy, Tymekah Byrne, Hugo Webster, Sophie
Bean and Rowena Nathan
Background
As a group, we feel that Aboriginal Youth are not highly represented in the Scouting
movement. It is important to involve the Indigenous community into scouting as they
are a part of Australia’s history and culture.
Summary of Discussions
From the Indigenous Youth topic we divided into subtopics of: cultural incorporation,
promotion, bullying, financial issues and location & accessibility.
Cultural Incorporation
We discussed the need for cultural respect in the promise and law. We also discussed
incorporating indigenous knowledge and beliefs into the award scheme and making
another proficiency badge based upon the aboriginal culture.
Bullying
We discussed the importance of bullying situations in aboriginal and scouting
communities. We also talked about more emotional support for aboriginals that are
getting bullied, more aboriginal male and female leaders, welcoming their cultures and
belief and asking them to teach us about them , treating them as equal.
Promotion
We discussed how to promote scouting in remote and rural areas. We spoke about
having a scout day at school dedicated to just doing and learning about what scouts do.
Also, to encourage more hall/dens to be made for rural scouts and areas.
Location & Accessibility
In our discussions we talked about how aboriginal communities are quite spread out and
it may be hard for indigenous youth to access scouting. We then discussed ways to
support this by targeting areas with a high indigenous population, also methods of
transport to the scout hall such as a troop bus or organizing for the scout group to be
placed on a public transport line.
Finance Issues
We discussed that indigenous communities may not be able to afford the registration
fees of scouting, camps, activities and jamborees. From this we discussed that the best
way to solve this would be to have a sponsoring troop and support foundation.
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Recommendations
The delegates of National Scout Forums and Scout Senate 2013 recommend that
1. Before anything is done we consult the indigenous communities to see what they
want to do.
Our other recommendations are:
2. To alter the scout promise from ‘to my god’ to ‘to my faith’. This is to respect all
beliefs systems, especially the aboriginal dreamtime.
3. To include aboriginal culture into the award scheme. For example:
-belief systems into citizenship badge
-aboriginal bush craft into bush craft badge
-aboriginal culture proficiency badge
4. To find large indigenous communities and encourage scout groups to be set up
there to encourage indigenous scouting.
5. To investigate transport options to allow indigenous youth to access their local
scout hall easier.
6. To investigate the financial assistance already out there to assist indigenous
youth and share with the scout groups.
7. To create a support foundation for indigenous youth in scouting to aid them
financially and also encourage sister troops to support/sponsor the indigenous
troop.
8. To get more leaders to support the aboriginal children that are getting bullied
9. Asking them if they are able to teach us their language and culture.
10. To conducted a survey and ask aboriginal children are getting bullied or are the
bullies and see what we can do the help (in both scouting and home lives).
11. Encouraging more aboriginal male & female leaders by promoting the benefits of
scouts and being a leader in the aboriginal community.
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Topic 4 – Interstate Activities The Scout Senate used input from one of the evening youth forums to develop
recommendations for this topic.
Group Members: Armaan Zoeb, Callum Rosser, Karli Blunden, Lola Collingbourne,
Samantha Payne, Sophie Kennedy.
Background
Interstate activities are an important part of scouts today. This is because relationships
are made and they will help each other out. Also it is important because the pressing
problems can be discussed and resolved.
Summary of Discussions
1. Buddy Troops
Mix of face to face and online
Buddy two different troops from different states together
Pen-pal/linking activities (have meet up camps every year between states)
Advertise within scouting the pen-pals
National and Contingent buddies
Buddy troops can be camped together at camps
2. Special Interest Camp
3-6 days
Any time of the year
Camp for a specific activity
Put it on the website for people to join (like subscribing)
In the hosts state
As cheap as possible
3. Mini Jamboree
4-6 days
Year before Jamboree
Preparing for Jamborees
Meet buddy troops
Like shakedown/pre jamboree camp
More centralized in Australia (easier to get to)
Not as expensive as a Jamboree
4. Special Interest Badge
At interstate activities badges can be earned (like jamboree award)
Counts as a Special Interest Badge (towards cords)
Instructions for leaders on the Scouts website
(For Leaders) introductory Skype call
5. Buddy pairing system
One region for one state is paired with another in one other state
Then the troops in the regions are paired
The pairs are then put up to state to confirm
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6. Paperwork
A standardized handbook and setoff paperwork for crossing over the borders in
Australia
7. Online camp Facebook
A troop can register online for an interstate camp so other troops interstate can
come
Can register type of camp (special interest, competitions)
If you’ve been on 5 camps that have been registered you can apply early to go on
a camp (early bird)
8. JOTI/JOTA
All JOTA / JOTI stationary in states as well as regions
Recommendations
The delegates of National Scout Forums and Scout Senate 2013 recommend that:
1. Buddy Troops
Each troop will have one buddy troop that they will keep in contact with by using online
forums and face to face, such as being camped together during camps. They can stay in
touch using a Scout version of Facebook or ordinary pen-paling.
2. Special Interest Camps
There will be a special interest camp for a specific activity, for getting a proficiency
badge signed off, such as caving or abseiling, or it could be just for fun. This activity can
be for the whole state, or a small camp with your buddy troop. It can be between 3 and
6 days long and will be as cheap as possible.
3. Mini Jamboree
This will be a 4-6 day long camp that will be in the year before Jamboree. The purpose of
the camp is to prepare for the Jamboree that is to come. Also so the younger scouts in
the troop can become used to the length of time you are away for. The camp would also
be more centralized so it is easier to get to for other states. Also the number of people
that would be able to go would be decreased from the large Jamboree. On the camp you
would go with your Jamboree troop so you can finalize patrols. The cost of the Jamboree
would be decreased.
4. Paperwork
The paper work for going over the border into other states would be put into a handbook
that would contain everything a leader needs to go over the border. The paper work
would also be shorter and more compact so that there is not a mountain of paper work
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5. Online camp Facebook
This is a Facebook {page/group/app} for troops or regions that want to register a camp
so people across the state as well as people from outer state can come. It would work by
putting in the details into the website like the type of camp, how many troops needed
and length. This would encourage interstate activities.
6. JOTA / JOTI
The stations in the states would be stationary and be in a permanent place so the troops
know where to go and what to do. Also it needs to be promoted in scouts.
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Topic 5 – Leadership Development The Scout Senate used input from one of the evening youth forums to develop
recommendations for this topic.
Group Members:
Kate MacClure - O12 NSW
Laura Harrison - O11 Tas
Liam Camilleri - B59 Vic
Maddy Kidd - O22 Qld
Tahge Cull - B27 NSW
Tristan Miller - H55 ACT
Background:
Lord Baden-Powel established the troop system with the intention of making a
manageable and organized system. In the troop system there are Patrol Leaders and
Assistant Patrol Leaders that lead patrols of approximately 6 people.
The current issues in the troop system are:
Insufficient training of APL’s, PL’s and Adult Leaders.
Inconsistent training courses.
Irrelevant training programs.
Lack of program advertising.
Summary of Discussions:
Implications of leadership roles were discussed. Ideas to fix these issues were thought of
and through a process of elimination the appropriate solutions were formulated.
Ideas moved from multiple and separate training courses for the Leaders, PL’s and APL’s
about leadership in the Scouting Movement to an idea about a national standard or
guideline for the roles of the PL’s and APL’s.
Recommendations
The delegates of National Scout Forums and Scout Senate 2013 recommend that the
following courses of action be implemented appropriately:
1. A national guideline or standard for PL’S and APL’S should be developed to suit
the Australian Scouting Movement’s leadership requirements.
2. An additional section in the current scout leadership course about understanding
the requirements and challenges of assuming the role of an acting PL or APL.
3. An added section to the leader training that includes extra methods of training for
the PL’s and APL’s.
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Topic 6 – Publicity in Scouting The Scout Senate used input from one of the evening youth forums to develop
recommendations for this topic.
Group Members: Jasmine Papillo, Daniel Warwick, James Pearce, Willem De Blanc and
Zane Bailey
Background: The topic of publicity is an important topic to discuss because the majority
of people think that scouts are tree hugging hippies that tie knots and help old ladies
cross the street. There are four main ideas that we can help change our image.
Summary of Discussions:
Scouts Website
Websites exist for Scouts already however the website is more directed to the
general public. We suggest having a website where Scouts can get event
information and talk to other scouts.
Youtube Add Contest
Idea:
To get people to try to make great advertisements and videos for scouts from a youth
point of view. Be able to access these videos to share and show friends.
How:
Scout channel for videos of camps and activities.
Youth need to be able to submit videos.
Have a prize for the best video.
Have a theme for ad; you must appear at least once, must show scouts emblem
at some point.
Must say what you do in scouts, show it’s fun, and show importance of scouting.
Publicise what scouting can do for youth and the community
Lots of people know about scouts and that is exists but are unaware of the actual
benefits scouting provides to young people.
Publication on Mainstream Media
Mainstream media isn’t being used to its full potential to advertise scouting. In
particular when major events are running like Jamboree, Jamborette, Jota and
other big camps at national and state level.
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Recommendations
The delegates of National Scout Forums and Scout Senate 2013 recommend that:
Scout Website
What the website needs:
1. Constant updates for all scout events - the organiser of the event will be
responsible and able to update the events.
2. Search by area - search for branch, activities, camps, campsites, groups and
more.
3. Chat/forum – communicate with other members search for someone and “random
chat” (talking to an unknown scout. Could be used for part of the award scheme)
4. National and international information – information about Jamborees for
instances, with location, dates and links.
5. Easy to navigate – When you sign in expect to see clear search bar, contents of
site, news feed.
6. Scout Profile – To make friends, see badge work of other scouts, needs to have
name, age, group, branch, activity log, friends list and an online badge record to
be able to discuss badge work progress with other scouts with similar interest
7. Troop suggestion forum for program ideas – It needs to have the idea and who
came up with it and contact if more information is needed.
8. Leader’s area - Easy access to forums and information- ideas for troop
improvement and program.
9. Subscribe to events – get information as it comes, option to get email updates.
10. Links to other sections and useful websites.
11. Regular competitions.
12. Be able to have mobile access, not needed to be an app though.
Youtube
13. Make a YouTube channel for Scouts to submit videos to. For its launch we should
have a video or advertisement competition with prizes. Aim videos to people
external to Scouts to gain public interest.
Publicise what scouting can do for youth and the community
14. TV ads
o No stupid slogans i.e. the South Australian ad
o Year of the scout ad was really good
o “Scouts, come here, have fun”
o Short and sweet
o High energy
o Demonstrations
o National support for demos – ideas
o Merchandise to advertise
o Provide a Scouting presenter
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15. YouTube ad
o See discussion for TV Ad above. Also relate to YouTube Competition
discussion.
16. Posters and pamphlets
o Need to be used more, many Scouts have not seen the posters to be used for
advertising.
17. Merchandise
o Make available in kits for groups to use
Publication on mainstream media
18. Partnerships with media stations like radio and TV to get further advertising
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Topic 7 – Uniform The Scout Senate used input from one of the evening youth forums to develop
recommendations for this topic.
Group Members: Caleb Berechree, Elyse lenehan, Erica Dalton, Hero Cook, Isaac
Stewart, Jyden Chancellor.
Background:
The current National Policy on Uniform is that all uniformed members are required to
wear the Scout shirt of their current section, their scarf, and Scout belt. Elements of the
policy vary from Branch to Branch, including the colour of pants. In 2012, the National
Youth Council Frankston 2011/12 patrol investigated a variety of complaints individuals
had with aspects of the uniform. The topic of the uniform was suggested at a session of
the National Scout Forum at AJ2013. As delegates of the National Scout Forums we
believe the uniform is not only for formal use but also for unifying Scouts as one youth
organization which is recognized nationwide.
Summary of Discussions:
The topic for discussion was collated from multiple youth forums during Jamboree 2013.
The main topic was uniform branching off into badges, shirts and pants. Major problems
included uniforms not accommodating for weather and girls, unclear placements of
badges and need to compact as well as having national standards for uniforms so as to
unite Scouts.
Recommendations
The delegates of National Scout Forums and Scout Senate 2013 recommend that:
1. Girls’ shapes and sizes should be accommodated for in both Scout pants and
shirts because there is no girl accommodation in the uniform and is
uncomfortable due to shape and sizes being too large.
2. Scout beige zip-off pants should be cheaper or another option should be sold for
both males and females because pants are too expensive and unpopular.
3. Navy blue, khaki and beige pants and shorts should be available from the Scout
Shop due to inconsistency of colours across the nation.
4. A warmer and cooler version of the uniform should be available because the
current uniforms does not accommodate for weather and climate.
5. The scout emblem should be added to the corners of the collars (with a possibility
of it being embroidered) as it is smart and would make the Scout uniform more
noticeable.
6. A breathable version of the Scout shirt should be added because the material is
not breathable.
7. A national standard should point out a specific placement of badges and advise
that target be kept in rows according to level.
8. The green book should provide coloured diagrams and clear placement of badges
in an obvious position in the book as it does not provide a clear outline and
diagram of badge placement.
9. A national standard for [the wearing of] Grey Wolf/ Australian Scout Medallion/
Queen Scout/ Baden Powel Scout Award because it is unclear/inconsistent across
different states and troops.
10. Different lengths of cords should be provided as the standard size does not fit
everyone.
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11. Target and proficiency badges should be square so they tessellate and fit better
because there is limited space on the sleeves of shirts.
12. Patrol Leader (white) cord, which is worn in some states to signify that one has
become a Patrol Leader, should be woven together as the white cords are
uncommon and have no fastener.
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Topic 8 – Scouts In Action Weeks This topic was included in the Yakkery at the request of the National Youth Council
Brownsea Island Patrol, who are developing a paper reviewing the Scouts In Action
national program.
Have you participated in a Scouts In Action week?
Have you been a PL who has helped run a program from Scouts in Action?
None in Patrol have heard about SIAW 42
Less than half of the Patrol have heard about SIAW 30
Half or more of the Patrol have heard about SIAW 25
All of the Patrol has heard about SIAW 5
No. of PLs who have helped run a program for SIAW 9
What ideas does your patrol have for future SIA themes?
Highlighted bullets show the most popular responses.
Health and safety Water Safety x12 Depression and Mental health, mental disabilities (incl. autism etc.) x11 Fitness & Healthy lifestyle x11 Cancer x7 Fire safety awareness x5 Firefighters Health and Hygiene x5 Disability x1 Wheelchairs for disability Blind experience (walking stick), blindness x2 AIDS x3 First Aid x3 Road Safety x3 Drug awareness, safety x3 Emergency services x2 Survival x2 Health and Safety x2 Diseases x2 Healthy Eating x2 Obesity x2 Be safe Awareness of uncommon illnesses Cerebral Palsy Smoking Allergy awareness Safe sex awareness Sun safety Accidents Safety
Natural world Environment (incl. Clean Up Australia and nature) x46 Natural Disasters x9 Water Awareness (incl. saving water etc.) x8 Animals (inc. birds) x8 Animal Welfare x8 Pollution x4 Recycling x2 Climate x2 Space x2 Conservation x2 Fish x2 Agriculture x2 Disaster Education Plants Wildlife rehabilitation Bush Regeneration Waste Trees Deserts Insects Whales Pandas Orang-utans Gardening Marine Study Palm Oil Over-population Horticulture
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Sport and physical/ adventurous activity Sport x18 Water sports x1 Sailing x3 Swimming x2 Water activities (incl. mud) x8 Hiking x3 Adventurous activities x3 Geocaching x3 Sportsmanship x2 Motor sport x3 Life saving x2 Skateboarding x2 Flying fox Rules of golf Obstacle courses Equestrian (Horses) Technology Information Technology/ technology x9 Aircraft and Flight x7 Social media Invention Multimedia The Arts Language x4 Sign Language x2 Heritage x2 History x2 The Arts World war heritage Law Reading Media Fine Arts and Entertainment Drama x4 Circus x2 Movies Fairy tales Myths and Legends x3 Magic x2 Science Fiction Art x2 Music x8 Comedy x3 Entertainment Craft night x2 Food Cooking x6 Food x6 Food safety
Bush Tucker International food Pizza party night Vegetarian night Cheese night Traditional Scouting Skills Community groups/ service x12 Religion x7 Knots x5 Construction x5 Teamwork x3 Camp Cooking x3 Citizenship x3 Amateur radio x2 Astronomy x2 Leadership x2 Faith awareness Bush skills Outdoor activities Morse code Endurance Adventure Care of tents Inter-troop activities Badges Scouts Scouts will be Scouts Service Navigation Law and Promise 'Community Challenge' Loyalty Risk assessment Bushcraft Good Deeds Scouting Skills (basics) History of Scouting Discrimination/ violence awareness and prevention Bullying x14 Racism x3 Discrimination awareness x2 Abuse x2 Violence x2 Homophobia (anti-) Assault Sexual harassment Child abuse The world Culture x5 Multiculturalism x5 World Peace x2
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Refugees x2 Indigenous communities, culture etc. x2 ‘Pick a country' International Harmony War prevention World hunger Human trafficking World issues Helping others Poverty x19 ‘Street Kids’ and Homeless education x7 Elderly x5 3
rd world awareness x4
Helping the disadvantaged x2 Child labour x2 Helping disabled and less fortunate How to help someone in distress 40 hour famine Science Physics and science x3 Colours x2 Weather x2 Electricity Things on wheels Transport Mechanics Games Games x10 Board games x2 Arcade Games Computer Games Activities Reverse handed night Handyman Stuff Capture the flag Crazy dress Party Cross dress party Fireworks Barrel rolling Fashion Show Disco Meet new people
Shirt making Spys Fun x2 Hobbies Advertise (Scouting) in schools and to the community Wood turning Chilling Personal Skills Friendship x2 Finance x2 Occupations x2 Fundraising x2 Get together Social Skills Awkward situations Anger management Communication Listening Compassion Other (Spelling &) Grammar x2 Beach x2 Politics x2 Monsters Zombies Hippies Heroes and Inspirational people Military Prepare for long stays away City and country living Destruction Building Tests Physical things Build it week Time Dead people Appreciation Charities Crime prevention Dirt Privileges in life Ninja week Gross stuff Australia
Ideas to make the Scouts In Action Week better
More advertising/ better promotion x29 SIA Camp x4 Run for more than 1 week/ more often x4
Make it more well known x3 Letters in mail (to all scouts) x3 Getting more people to speak out x3
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Get external people involved x4 Encourage Troops to work together x3 Tell more people x2 Involve community x3 Get it ‘out there’ x2 Radio x2 Groups working together x2 Make it a full day x2 More fun x2 Involve Street Kids in program Make a Jamboree themed around a SIAW theme District themed camps Put in Scout Magazines TV ads
Media attention Make it compulsory Promote at (AJ) Opening and Closing Ceremonies Make it more fun for younger Scouts Promote at camps Make it run cross sectional Make it a challenge or competition Involve Guides Fun activities District involvement Incorporate badgework Different theme for each level Combine sections Like a District rally
Make woggles (in addition to badges) Play games Tell stories Better organisation - info out sooner, advertising International guests Ensure that it's advertised as SIAW and not a normal night Dressing up More programme awareness Go into schools More games Promo days Ask for ideas at the end of the night Bring a friend More getting out and about activities More interactive x3 Like that the themes are open ended and there is no set programme but the ability to adapt the suggested programmes Awesomer Include more Troops More engaging Skype it around the world More learning Disguise as a game Fundraising Accountants
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Topic 9 – Rover Scouts This topic was included in the Yakkery at the request of the Chairman of the National
Rover Council.
Patrol Demographics
Yakkery staff were able to collect demographic information for this topic.
139 patrols visited this topic.
Patrol members are from:
Count
Urban/ city group (Melbourne, Sydney, Adelaide, Brisbane) 43
Urban/ city group (other than Melbourne, Sydney, Adelaide, Brisbane) 28
Rural/ country group 24
Unknown 31
Total 111
No Answer 28
Branch
Count
Victoria 29
NSW 31
SA 9
Qld 22
Tasmania 4
NT 0
WA 6
ACT 8
International 0
Total 109
No Answer 30
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Rovers Are…
We asked patrols what they know Rovers to be.
Comments on Rovering - Rovers are:
Count
After Venturers 37
Old/ older 29
Leaders/ like Leaders 28
18-26 years old 22
At the end of Scouts 19
18+ 16
Will become Leaders 12
Few and far between - not many Rovers and/or Crews 11
Freer - freedom, fewer boundaries 9
18-25 8
Before Leading 6
Responsible 4
Tall 4
18-21 3
For men and women 3
20-something year olds 2
Young adults 2
More hidden than other sections, not as obvious, keep to themselves
1
Mature 1
Short 1
Total 111
Some other comments:
Dick Smith was a Rover
"Maximum age is 26
Not many Rovers left because they all
become Leaders or leave before they
become Rovers
Don't know what they do when the hide
in the Den"
20-25
They're cool because they drive me
places"
"Adults
Part of the Scouting movement"
18-20
Drunken Joeys
Sign own A1 forms
18-20 something
Longest section
Better than Venturers
An older version of Scouts
Interested in what other sections think
of them
Cubs with cars
Part of the Scout movement
Best out of everything
Can be a Leader if they're mature
enough
Are around to do the heavy lifting
Not as many of them as they become
leaders
Generally have to go Scouts to
Venturers to Rovers
Been to all other sections
17-21 year olds
Adults - but least mature of all Scout
sections
Irresponsible
Finished school
Most experienced of Scouts
Greater commitment to Scouting
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Challenging
Bigger Scouts
Safety is their 3rd priority (referring to
Rover film at Opening Ceremony)
Better than Scouts
Rovering is boring
Unsure about what they're doing next
week
Good movie at the Opening Ceremony
(AJ Challenge It 'Safety' Video)
Adult Scouts
18-22 year olds
"(Rovers) do tramps and stuff'
Have red woggles ('I want to be a Rover
Scout'?)"
"Rovering is a waste of time
Rovers make really good Leaders for the
young kids"
"Sometimes youth helpers
Different
With some activities the rules are
different
Can do stuff Scouts can't
Life skills"
Mainly on Facebook
Independent
Like Scouts that act like Leaders
What Rovers Do
We asked patrols what they know about what Rovers do.
Comments on Rovering - what Rovers do:
Count
Help out at younger sections 37
Have fun 22
Drink alcohol 18
Run activities 15
Drive places/ have cars 14
Challenge It (AJ activity) 14
Self-governance 13
Organise stuff 7
Are lazy 6
Build things 5
Go camping 5
Nothing/ not much 4
Tease Scouts 3
Go to the pub 3
Drink a lot of alcohol/ get drunk 3
Adventurous Activities 3
Mud 2
Lots of activities 2
Party 2
Chill, relax 1
Muck around 1
Total 91
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Some other comments:
This patrol had an interesting
discussion about what the legal
age for drinking alcohol is,
whether it's 12, and therefore
Venturers can drink, or 18, as
well as whether or not there is
alcohol on the Jamboree site and
who can drink it.
Take on lots of resposibility
"Run most of the big events
Look after us (Scouts) (at times)
Do work for us
Help out at camps"
"Like to get people muddy and
know how to make good mud
Rovers don't do what they're
told"
Can tie knots as well
"Pay for their camps
Can work (ie have a job)"
Talk to Scouts
"Like to get Scouts dirty
Do a lot of different activities
because they are older and drive"
"Help at AJ
More badgework"
"Help a lot
Good at light and sound (stage)"
"Race cars
Help Venturers with the Burger
Challenge
Go to roller derby"
"A lot more activities
A lot more outside activities"
Give away free woggles"
Skydiving
If they mess up they deal with
the police, not Leaders
Responsible for themselves"
"Have interesting activities
Rough it
"Volunteer
Don't rough it"
"Amazing builders
(Have) Better places to chill out
in the Scout hall"
Different activities
"Know a lot about outdoor stuff
Do extreme activities compared
to Scouts"
Better activities
"Don't do as much (as Scouts)
Swear a lot
Maybe it's boring"
Do what they want when they
want
Play drinking games
"Learn more skills
Can go on Scout events"
"Can do stuff Scouts can't do like
Banana Bash
Have to look after themselves
when they get hurt"
Bigger stuff
Cool stuff
Do more than Venturers - cooler
"Drinking games
Badges
Know a lot about Scouts' knots"
Organise State Rally/ Pig Skin
More adventure and things"
Always pull pranks
"Can stay up late
Shooting targets
Can do a lot of stuff"
More challenging activities
"Chuck dirt at Scouts
Off road racing"
More activities
Run a lot of activities like Jambo
Outdoor activities
Eat strange foods
"Not supposed to advertise
drinking
Help out at AJ"
Extreme stuff."
More stuff (than Scouts)
"Too busy with life
Greater range in activities
Go clubbing
Meet people
"Help out in the community
Can help out at Cubs"
Have part time jobs
Some blow stuff up
More things with less supervision
"Whatever they want
Rallies"
More awesome stuff
Make funny videos (AJ Opening
Ceremony video)"
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Make funny safety video (AJ
Opening Ceremony video)
Attack people with water pistols
More 'action' without adults
Work hard
Are telepathic
Learn more skills
Have to do it yourself
'Can eat jam donuts while
listening to facts about parasites
and penises'"
"Block toilets
Have more responsibilities than
Scouts"
More exciting stuff than Scouts
"Fundraising
Make us wet
'Care for the rest of the section
bars'
Help all sorts of people
"Drinking games
Sleep in really late"
Run activities sometimes like
Fantastic Race
"Stay out late
Shouldn't have to help out with
younger sections, but most do"
Have lots of responsibility
Bring couches to camps
Pyromaniacs
Lots of things like paintball and
other extreme sports
Drive buggies
It's helpful to the Scouts that
they help out weekly
Don't do combined nights with
Scouts - would like more
intersectional activities"
Should know how to play with fire
safely
Rover Scout Traditions
We asked Scouts what they know about Rover Scout jargon and traditions.
Comments on Rovering - Rover jargon and traditions
Count
Red shirts/ are red/ wear red/ red 62
BP Award 27
Don't have leaders 17
Service 10
Knight 7
Squire 6
Rover Advisor 6
Rover Knot 6
Knighthood 5
Bootings 3
Den 2
Crew 2
Swords 2
Round table 1
Rovering to Success 1
Crew Leader 0
Secretive 0
Total 86
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Some other comments:
Called the RA a 'supervisor'
Have 14 main badges
Different badges to the rest of us
They have a Leader
Described the knot as 'a lot of
colours on their shirt'
Wear different uniforms
Different shirts
Called Rover knot a ribbon
Different badges
Myths and legends
Small groups
Badges are hard to get
Described knots as 'ribbons'
Red woggle - 'I want to be a
Rover Scout' - one Scout has one
One will drop out at 25 so that
they don't get kicked.
Different law
Leaders don't help
Didn't know what the book was
called, just that it exists.
(Called the Rover knot 'ribbons
on their shirt')
"Leaders just to look after the
stupid stuff' - ie Rover Advisors
No A1s"
Meet weekly
Pathways To Rovers
We asked about Scouts’ intentions to continue to Venturers and Rovers.
Continuing in the movement (count of Scouts rather than patrols)
Count
Yes, to Venturers Only 406
Yes, to Venturers and Rovers 256
No, not to Venturers or Rovers 66
No, not to Venturers 43
Maybe, to Venturers 105
Maybe, to Venturers then Rovers 207
Total 1180
Reasons for leaving/ being unsure
Other committments 35
Will/ may/ probably be busy with school 29
Too far into the future 27
No/ few Rover Crew(s) nearby 21
Part-time work 17
Have done Scouts, want to move onto other things 14
Not enough time 11
Will/ may/ probably be busy with Uni 8
Don't know what Rovers do 8
Leaving Scouts after Jamboree 5
No/ few Venturer Unit(s) nearby 5
Don't like the local Venturer Unit 5
Don't know what Venturers do 2
Don't like the local Rover Crew 0
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Other comments:
No to Venturers due to parents
Depends on the Rover Crew
"Local Rovers and Venturers
aren't organised
Not interested in Rovers
We go to Venturers and then we
quit.
"Unsure because it's a lot of
organising, other responsibilities
Takes a lot of determination to
complete Venturers"
Only one Rover
Doesn't want to go to Rovers -
wants to be a leader straight
away.
"Depends on how difficult it is to
get to the Group
Lots of other friends have
stopped"
Parties"
Could be moving to England
Not enough activities, would be
pointless
Girlfriend doesn't like it
"Costs too much
Hard to fit social life into Scouts"
"All my friends are quitting
Don't enjoy it any more"
"Rovers sounds gay'
Don't do much - camps and
activities
Don't learn anything new"
Venturers have to organise stuff -
lazy
Would need to start up a Crew of
their own.
No friends there"
Two aren't sure they'll finish
Scouts - Leader issues
At an age where they don't want
to be in Scouts anymore
3 don't have a Rover Crew in
their area, but if one started up,
they would join it.
Scouts is annoying
"Mum hates Scouts
Travelling
Worry about Uni"
"No group
It's crap
Don't like being in Scouts"
"Keep injuring self at camps
Scouts is hard enough to get to
Lazy
Friends not doing it
Undecided"
"Keep injuring self at camps
Scouts is hard enough to get to
Lazy
Friends not doing it
Undecided"
Will go if there's a Crew near
where they are going to Uni in
Brisbane
May not like Venturers
Just don't want to
Don't want to do some activities
Depends on Venturers
Travelling"
Not interested
Moving away
"Venturers aren't organised and
only for socialising
Not enough money for Rovers"
Depends on night
Interferes with personal life
"Getting bored of Scouts
'Not enough there' (for Rovers)"
"Venturers don't do stuff
Venturers looks boring"
Rovers drink too much alcohol
Will try to make new Unit to join
Venturers
Brother didn't like Venturers.
Want to go on a Moot
Apparently there are Loans
nearby
Sippy laté group' (local Venturer
Unit)
"Don't know the local Venturer
Unit
Don't like camping outside of the
family"
Joining the army and hence can't
be a Rover.
Don't know where the local Crews
are
Only have one Rover
A friend is also leaving
Starting tennis instead of Scouts
Don't want to
Driving alcohol and time, so my
Scout group doesn't have a Rover
group'
Sport
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Don't like knots or hiking, miss
out on doing stuff with friends,
some people in Scouts aren't
friends.
Do Scouts See Rovers?
We asked Scouts if they ever see Rovers, and if so, where.
See Rovers
Count
From time to time, not often 21
Never 18
Weekly 12
Monthly 4
AJ first time they say Rovers 4
Only once or twice ever 3
Other Comments:
Never see them doing anything but always see them around.
They're very rare in Victoria
Venturers do more with the Scouts than the Rovers do
Lots of ex-Rovers, not many current ones
It's unusual to see a Rover
Came for their BP and then left.
"Always down at the hall doing stuff, come to a Scout night
Helped clean up at Elmore Field Day"
"Would like to see more but there aren't many around us. They make things more
fun and it would be heaps good if they could be there.
They make better Leaders than Scout Leaders."
"Regularly during Gang Show, not the rest of the year
I think our Leader is going to become a Rover and leave us.
Only see one member of the Crew."
Don't see Rovers except for their Leader who is a Rover
Not around the Scout group, but it would be cool, because they run really cool
activities and get us dirty. It's mad!
Some help out weekly and others don't show up at all
Where are Rovers seen
Count
Rovers are Leaders or help Leaders - not necessarily regularly 35
At camps 25
Don't see them at all 23
At AJ 21
Showtime/ Gang Show 12
Helping other sections 11
See Rovers at big events 11
At the hall 9
At District/ Region/ Branch activities 9
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Running activities (not specified which) 9
Know that they're there, but don't see them 4
At Group events 4
In their Den 2
A close family member is a Rover 2
Other Comments:
Rovers never seem to be doing
anything
Rovers don't talk to Scouts,
except for once when they were
really drunk"
No Rover Crew - only have
Venturers
"Help out to run JNN TV
Help at fundraisers"
Rovers don't really socialise with
people younger than they are.
Local Rover Crew doesn't do
anything, they go out every
second night, bowling, laser tag
etc.
See Rovers meeting, doing work,
making watermelon hats and
mucking around
Bunnings BBQ
Scout Hike"
Don't have Rovers
Not really a Rover area, Rovers
are around, but not really.
See them change over for hall
(Scout nights)"
No Rovers in our District but they
are in Districts nearby
"See them at shopping centres
(not in uniform)
Sometimes fundraising"
Subway hanging out with friends
See them helping, but not
participating, at big activities
At their workplace
Doing voluntary work at a BBQ"
"Our Rover helps out as a Leader
Help on fundraising"
"Smoking weed
'They don't hang around in town;
well they aren't in uniform
because they are embarrassed to
be Rovers'"
AGM, Hoadley Hide, 'nearly burnt
down the hall, see them at things
depending on what the thing is -
they're kinda around'
"Seen the mess they've left
Meet on a different day
Seen them in photos
Cleaning the Scout hall,
fundraising.
The old ones left and there aren't
any around any more, but they
were fun while they were there."
At Scout/ Rover integrated
activities
Unsure if we even have Rovers
"Not many Rovers - they are in a
District Crew because there are
so few of them
Do BBQs and car boot sales"
"Rover who is a Leader is treated
like a kid, not a Leader
Rover is at AJ2013 bus security
and patrol security"
Training
'Help run a Jamb
Sometimes see Rovers as they're
on the same night as Scouts
Set up activities - work
"Moved Troops and rarely see
them now
Hardly see them"
At shops giving Scouts discounts
"In different Groups
Don't know Rovers"
The Rovers are a District Crew,
so individual Groups don't see
them often
No Rovers with their Group, but
some within District.
Videos, special nights
Drive Buggies in Bash
Xmas Paegant
Helping out, but not specifically
with the Troop
Mucking around, scaring Joeys,
Venturers, don't see drinking
often.
Drive around places
Special events
"4WDing
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Travelling
Sometimes walking in circles,
sitting, talking, drinking
Our group doesn't have them
Helping Leaders or with Venturers
Met them before but not really
done stuff
Building Mudbash buggy
Doesn't do much with Scouts,
mainly Venturers
Only have some Rovers
Unearth Perth
"See Rovers at my local Chinese
shop
She comes every ANZAC Day"
Hide from Scouts"
Rovers don't have much to do
with the Scouts at big events.
Rovers Christmas appeal
"Community events
Sailing"
"ANZAC Day March
Comedy Capers"
1 hangs around at the hall
Heaps of Rovers out there
"Seen at camps drinking
Selling Christmas trees"
Scout hike Jamboree, JOTA
Regattas"
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Topic 10 – The Promise & Law This topic was included in the Yakkery in order to gauge Scouts’ belief in the relevance of
our Scout Law and Promise.
Are the ten parts of the Scout Law relevant to you? As a patrol, rate each one
in order from most to least relevant to Scouts today.
1 is most relevant.
10 is least relevant.
It is ok to have any of equal relevance.
Responses
Total
Score
Mean
Score
Mode Score most common
answer
Respectful 130 272.5 2.10 1
Trustworthy 129 318 2.47 1
Helpful 131 422 3.22 1
Friendly 127 422 3.32 1
Considerate 129 476 3.69 2
Loyal 129 500.5 3.88 2
Environment 128 528 4.13 2
Cheerful 128 698.5 5.46 6
Courageous 128 710.6 5.55 9
Thrifty 128 733 5.73 10
(Remember, a lower score means more relevant!)
Observations
Overall, Scouts believe in the relevance of the Scout Law.
Most of the existing elements of the Law are considered relevant by Scouts.
Cheerful, Courageous and Thrifty were considered more irrelevant than relevant.
Many didn’t understand the meaning of Thrifty. Once it was explained to them,
many agreed it was important. Many suggested choosing another word.
Comments by patrols:
o Thrifty - something more newer. Eg. Resourceful/careful. No one knows
what this means. / reword / outdated / makes the best of what he has. /
replace with resourceful / wise, handy / update the word / not something
we focus on
o Cheerful - all the time? / positive attitude - is it realistic to demand
cheerfulness? / happy / enthusiastic / should it be a law? / shouldn’t
demand joy and cheer
o Courageous - adventurous, confident / explain further / within reason / old
wording / hard to achieve
o Considerate - can assume most people are so put it low in relevance
o Environment - A scout is happy to be conservative of the environment /
sustainable / not seen as being very important
o The Scout Law adds to the promise.
o Put listening instead of cheerful because cheerful is a part of being friendly
and listening is very important
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o Shorten & easier to remember
o Considerate - same as friendly?
o Everything in the scout law is relevant and important
o Loyal is most important and not common, We need more loyal people.
o Loyal - to those who deserve it
o helpful, loyal, trustworthy and respectful are the most important of the
laws
o Respect, loyalty and trust are very important
Some Scout suggestions for Law alternatives:
o A Scout lives by their ideals.
o A Scout is thankful
o A Scout Is Prepared
o A Scout is honest
o A Scout is loyal to his community and fellow scouts.
o A scout is Faithful
o A Scout is energetic
o A Scout is accepting of others.
Comments on the Scout Promise
"Help other people" sounds like Cubs
Take out "the queen". Why? Because we just don’t feel like she is that important
to Australia. All she does it wave at people.
Queen? Not sure on including.
Take out the queen bit.
Queen of Australia needed? Just "to Australia"
Why is the queen there?
Change Queen of Australia to 'the people of Australia'
Duty to everyone, not just the queen.
Queen should be optional but its not at some groups
Maybe not the queen. Don’t see what she does for Australia
Queen isnt noticed as much in Australia
Secondly, the Queen isn’t really a big part of the Scouting movement and doing
your duty towards a country rather than a person would be better.
"to the people of Australia" because Australia is a democratic country.
Keep the promise the same.
its ok and reasonable.
Should be able to drop lines as needed.
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Some people don’t believe in god.
Allowed to drop God line if desired?
'to do my duty to Australia' is good
Need to take out god. Maybe "Community" or "Society"
"Duty to my beliefs"
Change 'to your god' to "Do what is right"
Scouts is not very religious nowadays and so we can cut out the God bit.
We believe the scout promise is very good, but we don't think everyone believes
in a God. If you put for what I believe in, the promise relate to a larger audience.
Some people might believe in their Mum/Dad or friends.
Leave it basically the same but get rid of 'to my God' because not everyone is
religious. Apart from that we think that it is a good promise and cover the vital
parts.
to help all others'
"to help other countries" not all counties are as fortunate as others.
Maybe "try to do my best" - you can’t always do it.
Some people can’t do their best - "try their best"
It’s relevant and ok.
Don’t think Scouts believe in Promise.
Can’t live by it all of the time.
We wouldn’t change it because it is short and sums up everything.
I wouldn’t change anything to the promise because it is everything. Nothing
needs to be changed because it is truthful and it’s our promise to our scouting
movement and scouts deserve that respect
We shouldn't be singling out who we do our duty to… "To do my duty to others"
We would keep it the same because every scout in Australia knows it and the
creator of Scouts made it so we can at least respect it.
We believe that the promise is dated to the Scouts of today.
Keep it because it outlines what a scout should do and its known all around the
world and it’s a scout tradition
We believe it is a great thing to look back on and say I Kept That and it’s what
Scouts is about and we to live up to
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It explains everything a scout is to do in a short easy poem
It fits with what a Scout must be and a Scout must learn
Include "enthusiastic" and "responsible"
Leave as is, it explains Scouts and what we are for
We think that a Scout's top priority is to help and care for others and always
believe in the possibilities of the future, so the promise should reflect this.
"obey all scout duties with honour and respect, to represent scouts with pride"
because that is what Scouts are expected to do
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Topic 11 – Areas of Personal Growth This topic was included in the Yakkery in order to develop an understanding of how
Scouts see their personal development while in Scouts.
Is the Scout Program relevant to kids these days? Why?
“Yes” Comments by Patrols:
# said this
It depends on the troop as to whether the program is relevant
Because the troop has lots of kids the leaders have ensured a diverse program
Learning stuff we wouldn’t otherwise learn but is relevant e.g. survival skills;
resilience; leadership; bush cooking etc
5
Learning stuff other people don’t know
Physical activities contribute to fitness 2
Learn stuff now because later in life busy with jobs family etc
Teaches you how to face challenges
Makes you active 2
It’s at a good level : school is sometimes delivered at a lower levels
You get to run it and organise stuff
It’s just awesome
Well thought out
Get a say in what we can do
Confidence 2
Social Skills – Meeting people of all ages 7
Learning from older Scouts is really good – especially because it teaches you how
not to act when you’re older
Camping opportunities that we wouldn’t otherwise get 4
Teamwork 3
Meeting new friends; people that you wouldn’t otherwise meet 31
Learning from new people
Lifelong experiences 2
Environmentally friendly
Helps learn new things 11
Opportunity to travel
Develops leadership 9
Values/direction in life
Personal skills
Not relying on tech
Hard work and good work
Gain confidence 2
Helps you get out of trouble eg Navigation
Responsibility 2
Hiking
Community Involvement
HAVE FUN! 17
Learning life lessons/skills 6
Cool activities 2
Independence 3
Being nice to others
helping in getting job when older 3
Teaches you things to use when older
Life skills 6
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“Yes” Comments by Patrols:
# said this
Break from school
Outside/Outdoors 4
Games 6
Seeing old friends 9
Different life from school
Doing interesting things
Earning badges 4
Helps you for later in life
Discipline
Knots 5
Development
Escapism
Cooking 4
Survival Skills – Bear Grylls 2
Survival Skills – washing and cooking and stuff
Caring for the environment
Respect 3
Loyalty
Teaches older and younger people to get along
Keeps us occupied
Better than sitting at home on a computer
New places
Improves Knowledge at a young age
Learn 1st Aid
New experiences/doing something different 6
Get dirty
Variety of the program allows continued interest
Setting Goals 2
Activities
Organising camps
We go to scouts for the fun games, to see our friends and learn lots about
camping
The scout program is filled with new activities had with friends and is pretty
awesome. With Scouting traditions we become leaders in the community
While climbing the rock wall, flying on the flying fox, playing games like bull rush
is what Scouts is all about. The adventures with friends and hanging around the
fire
The scout program gives youth opportunity to hang with mates and play games
while earning badges
Children looking into scouts will find cool activities, games, camps seeing friends
get fun times away from their parents
Kids today like to have fun and learn awesome stuff that you may not learn
anywhere else other than scouts
We learn heaps of things on our camps around the community & have awesome
experiences there. You can build up on them and learn new things
Me and my friends go to this place every week. It is so much fun as we run around
and learn important skills we can use in life.
Scouts is important for everyone as it teaches you lots of different things from
knot tying to saving someone’s life. Everyone needs those skills because you
never know when you might need them
You make new friends, you learn lots of new stuff and its all fun and great you
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“Yes” Comments by Patrols:
# said this
meet new people that may become lifelong friends
Scouts are fun as we learn new things and meet new people but the best part is
achieving new badges and going outside
The basis of Scouting is awesome the funniest part of being a scout.
Best thing about being a Scout is meeting friends, making them and doing
activities with them.
The people are what makes Scouting fun
“No” Comments by Patrols:
# said this
Camping isn’t really relevant to my friends outside Scouting 2
Not really working at scout group, low numbers
Program is only sometimes relevant, slack groups hardly do anything
Not enough tech
Already learn alot of leadership at school
Tech not up to date enough
Some kids think Scouts is gay/uncool
Too traditional and outdated
People don’t really go camping/use the skills these days
Things that aren’t relevant
Knots
Cooking food (our parents to it for us)
Rules
Washing dishes
Leaders
Punishments
3
Bad things about Scouts
Duty patrol
No sleep
Bus trips
Bossy People
Choose one of the Areas Of Personal Growth and have the patrol
come up with a sentence to explain what it means to Aussie kids
these days.
Social Development
(15 patrols selected this Area)
#
said this
Making new friends 8
Connect to friends
Confidence
People not being left out
Makes leaders
You need friends to fall back on in bad times
Stops depression
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Social Development
(15 patrols selected this Area)
# said this
Talk to people/Saying hello to people you don’t know 5
Interacting with people of all ages 2
Heaps of opportunities to meet new people 3
Being with so many different people and new experiences 2
Develop confidence 3
Learning about cultures/experiences 3
Communication skills 2
Going on camps
Dating
Have fun
Gossip
Children have never known a world without internet
Socialisation is an important life skill in society
Important for employment and later in life 2
Helps shy people get over their fears
So you don’t become a loner
Helps define who you are
TACT!
Helps people connect to the rest of the world
Respect
Learning
Allows for more fun
Social media and tech
Appropriate interactions
Keeps you interested, and gives something to do
If you find it hard to be social, scouts helps
Meet people different from school
For when you get older
Social Development is when we develop social skills which help our confidence in
making new friends and learning new skills
Social development allows us to have lots of friends, talk to people & engage in
situations
Seeing my mates @ scouts every week is awesome because I don’t get to see
them everyday
Social development is relevant to Australian kids because nobody likes being alone
Social development is interactions between yourself and EVERYONE, making
friends respecting and learning.
Physical Development
(14 patrols selected this Area)
#
said
this
Enjoying activities that are for fitness
Helps stay fit 3
As you grow you need to develop
So you don’t get sick
Getting outside
Fun
So you are healthy when you get old
Making friends along the way
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Physical Development
(14 patrols selected this Area)
#
said
this
Learning new things that are fun 2
Active
Keep Healthy 2
Protect yourself
Live Longer
So you don’t get fat 3
People judge you if you are unhealthy
Affects confidence and pride
To be strong 2
Helps you learn
Physical development is about keeping fit, having fun and making friends along
the way
When with scouts we eat healthier, stop kids from getting really fat
Important for body, stay healthy, good lifestyle
Physical development helps you stay active and fit whilst having fun
Physical cause it equals to a healthy body. You can do and try new things
Physical development aids scouts in becoming healthy and fit and strive to new
ways of thinking
Spiritual Development
(1 patrol selected this Area)
Learn things from Scouts Own
Learning other people’s religion
Bird is an outdated symbol for spiritual area – as it is a Christian symbol
The dove is just an animal. Christianity is common in Australia, In India do they
use a cow?
Character Development
(9 patrols selected this Area)
Leadership
Tolerance
Relevance
Being Friendly
Being happy/sad
Having a go
Being who you are
Respect
Showing emotions
Being who you are
Having a go
Being cool
Sharing
Caring
Having Fun
How we react to things
How we think about stuff
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Character Development
(9 patrols selected this Area)
Team work
Builds confidence
We all have our own character
We are always building our character
Character defines who you are
You need it to be out there
Your are always happy
Proves you are awesome
Scouts use of character development helps us become better people who are more
involved and independent
I like Character development because I don’t know what it means
Friends emotions, involved in things. Contribute to fun things.
Character to be an interesting person
Many scouts thought that the climbing mountains icon could be Character
development because of the adventure included.
Some said the smiley face icon represents emotions better than Character.
Intellectual Development
(7 patrols selected this Area)
#
said
this
Moods
Behaviour
Learning 3
Life Skills
State of mind
How you think about things
How you learn
Talking
Thinking 2
Smarter
Manners
Brain Development
Brain storming
Learning to actions
So you don’t need to rely on other people or things
Knowledge
Confidence
More responsible
You can teach others
Helps you with jobs
Interacting with other people
Being able to know things to help others
Important for literature skills and for life today.
Need to be smart to stay in school
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Emotional Development
(5 patrols selected this Area)
Supporting others when nervous or sad
Having a good time
Worrying about the future not the past
Consider what other people are feeling
Developing new stuff
Puberty
Friendships
Change/Growth
How you’re feeling about a topic
How you manage in life
How things get to you
Helping people with personal problems/ dealing with situations
Getting used to things and responding appropriately
Emotional maturity
People are happier with developed emotions
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Coordinator’s Report and Recommendations
Topic Outcomes Outcomes from the forums, Senate and Yakkery have been developed into a series of
reports and recommendations.
A total of ten topics were discussed by Scouts through the Forums, Senate and Yakkery.
Recommendation 1
Reports and Recommendations from each of the Topics be noted and
distributed to relevant Committees and Councils of Scouts Australia for review
and action.
The Yakkery The Yakkery was not a compulsory activity for the Jamboree Award; rather it was a one
of a “complete three out of fives activities” scenario. It was housed in a large marquee
(10m x 15m) in “The Mall”. It was open 8:30am – 11:30am & 1:30pm – 4:30pm daily as
part of the Jamboree activity schedule, except for Market/Future Scout Day.
The activity began with patrols playing a game of “Giant Twister”. This provided an
opportunity for the Yakkery staff member assigned to the patrol to engage patrol
members and transition them to a “Topic Base” when the team fell out of the game. Four
Topic Bases were positioned around the tent, with one topic on each. The staff member
then explained the background to the topic and sought input and ideas from patrol
members.
The Yakkery was staffed by seven full time people, and three part time people. Staff
were Rovers, mostly from the National Youth Council (NYC), with some leaders allocated
to the activity each day by the Program Directorate.
Although we were able to modify the activity to suit the number of staff members, the
Yakkery was understaffed by about 50%. In the past, a key ingredient to the success of
the Yakkery has been to have Venturers as part of the staff. This allows for quality
interaction between youth members of different sections, as well as an opportunity to
promote the Venturer section. It was disappointing that we were unable to have
Venturers staff the Yakkery.
All staff members were allocated two days off over the course of the Jamboree. As the
staff also worked hard in the evenings for the Youth Forums, staff also had Market Day
free to themselves.
Communication about the situation with staffing was poor in the lead up to the
Jamboree.
Despite not being a compulsory activity, the Yakkery saw well over half the Jamboree
patrols come through. An average of 105 patrols per day (about 5000 Scouts in total)
participated. Appendix 1 shows the hourly breakdown.
A difficulty found at the Yakkery was the collection and collation of data, particularly due
to the volume generated. It required a staff member dedicated to typing information
from piles of butchers paper. One staff member used a tablet device to enter information
directly into a digital form whilst listening to the discussion of patrols. The staff felt that
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if every a tablet or computer was available for every topic, it would lead to time savings,
more accurate and timely information gathering.
Recommendation 2
In consultation with the National Commissioner Youth Program and the
National Youth Program Team, The Yakkery should return to being a
compulsory requirement for the Jamboree Award so that it is possible to collect
data from 8000+ Scouts.
Recommendation 3
The allocation of a staff to run the Yakkery is critical to its success and should
be included in future Jamborees. Enough staff should be allocated to run the
activity as well as ensure each person is allowed time off. It is highly
recommended that staffing include Venturers.
Recommendation 4
An investment be made into tablet devices for the purpose of collecting input
directly from patrols in order to improve the efficiency of the operations of the
Yakkery. Some consideration will need to be made as to how this is funded,
either hired through the Jamboree, or a capital purchase by the national
organisation for use at other events.
Evening Youth Forums & Scout Senate A two-tiered approach, initially developed for the 2007 Jamboree, was put into place for
the Scout Forums and Senate at AJ2013.
Three Camp Ground evening Youth Forums were held, one allocated to each of the Scout
Camp Grounds, with The Outback Camp Ground being split into three. Every Jamboree
troop was invited to send one delegate to these forums. Appendix 2 contains the
timetable for these forums.
The Camp Ground evening Youth Forums were held in the second half of the Jamboree.
Each evening Forum had a corresponding Briefing Night in the first half of the Jamboree.
This enabled various housekeeping matters to be dealt with and for Scouts to select
topics for discussion the following week. This also gave time for those Scouts to return to
their troops to seek input over the following days, knowing what the topics would be.
All the information collected from the Evening Forums was then provided to the Scout
Senate delegates (the second tier). The Scout Senate was held over the entire last day
of the Jamboree. Attending the Scout Senate were up to four delegates nominate by
each Branch, plus four delegates from each Evening Forum, plus Scout aged members of
the National Youth Council.
The role of the Senate was to use all the information gathered from the Evening Forums
to write up a final series of recommendations. Scouts worked in small groups and
prepared a report on one topic each. Computers were made available to groups to
prepare their reports. Time was allocated for groups to share their work in progress with
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the whole Senate to ensure their message was an accurate reflection of what the
majority of Scouts had been saying.
As the Scout Senate was held on the last day of the Jamboree, Scouts involved had to be
excused from packing up their campsite. In most cases Jamboree Troop Leaders were
supportive of this. As a show of thanks, affected JTLs were invited to afternoon tea and
to attend the final presentation at the end of the day. A dozen or so accepted this offer
(with enormous pride!).
Seven reports were completed in the allocated time and a formal presentation was made
to National Commissioners, Branch Commissioners for Scouts, and other invited special
guests. The Chief Commissioner of Australia gave the formal response. Their reports are
also to be prepared for distribution to relevant committees and councils for review and
action.
Key to the overall success of the Forums and Senate was the involvement of Facilitators
who volunteered their time, over and above their main Jamboree role, to support the
forums and Senate.
Recommendation 5
That the two-tier approach to Jamboree Forums be maintained as an effective
way of reaching out to a large population of Scouts, with the Scout Senate to be
held on the last day of the Jamboree.
Jamboree Committee Support The support of the Jamboree Executive Committee for the operations of the Forums,
Senate and Yakkery has been excellent. These events were treated by the Jamboree as
legitimate activities of the Jamboree which has achieved the following:
The activity being allocated an appropriate budget resulting in excellent housing,
facilities and materials to run a good quality activity;
The activity being included in the Scouts’ Jamboree Award resulting in over half
the patrols passing through the Yakkery over the course of the Jamboree;
The activity having entries in the Scouts’ and leaders’ handbooks, ensuring the
legitimacy of the activity was known and accepted;
Allowing the National Adviser Youth Forums to attend two Jamboree Consultative
Committee meetings, which provided valuable opportunities for networking and
communication with the various directorates, camping grounds, and contingents.
Recommendation 6
That future Jamboree Organising Committees give similar “Activity Status” to
the Scout Forums, Senate and Yakkery, ensuring that it falls under an
appropriate activity directorate and an appropriate person is appointed to
support its operation.
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Recommendation 7
That the National Adviser Youth Forums continue to be invited to attend a
couple of JCC/JOC meetings in the two years prior to the Jamboree, so that
appropriate coordination and communication can occur for a successful activity.
Delegate Selection The two-tiered approach to the Scout Forums required:
a) four delegates to be nominated from each Branch to participate in the Senate;
and
b) one delegate from each Jamboree troop to be nominated to participate in the
evening forums.
From the previous Jamboree, the online Application System had fields set up with which
to administer the nominations for the forums. Access to these fields required applying to
the JEC for rights to access to the data, and working with the database administrator,
Stephen Smart, to activate those fields and provide the ability to generate reports based
on a search of these fields. This ensured that communication with delegates used the
same details as other Jamboree communication, and allowed different queries and
reports to be generated at any time in the 12 months leading up to, during, and after
the Jamboree. Contingent Leaders were given access to select their delegates by making
changes to these database fields. Being able to use this system proved to be an
absolutely invaluable resource.
To allow maximum opportunity for Branch delegates to discuss topics with their peers, it
was asked that Branch delegates be nominated well ahead of the Jamboree. This process
was therefore begun 18 months prior to the Jamboree, when a memo was presented to
Scout Branch Commissioners at the National Scout Program Meeting. This was followed
up twelve months later at a meeting of the National Youth Program Team, which
includes Deputy Commissioners for Youth Program from all branches. The process for
notifying the National Adviser of their delegates was described at this meeting.
Only four branches (SA, Vic, NSW, Tasmania) had nominated Senate delegates by late
November prior to the Jamboree, when letters were sent out to all delegates. Those that
were nominated were able to find out about their role well ahead of the Jamboree
including information such as key dates, and the pre-set topics. WA moved quickly in
early December to make their nominations, and I was able to have letters ready for their
delegates arrival at the Jamboree. Queensland, NT and ACT had to be chased up on site.
It is concerning that late nominations from branches may not have been done in a
democratic way that involved selection by their peers.
Although it was not requested, two Branches (SA, NSW) also ensured all or most of their
Troop delegates had been nominated and entered into the Application System prior to
the Jamboree. This was a great time saver once the Jamboree had begun as it reduced
significantly the number of troops that needed to be “chased” to nominate a delegate.
(Smaller branches found this easier as they were able to elect their delegates at whole-
state “shake-down” camps prior to the Jamboree)
Clear and consistent communication was the key to ensuring a high participation rate in
the evening forums by Jamboree troops. The Camping Ground pigeon holes were utilised
as the most reliable way of getting bulk messages out to troops, although The Billabong
Camp Ground didn’t have such a system and relied on a regular postal service to troop
sites (which appeared to work well). A series of reminders and explanations were issued
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through this method, as the need arose, and depending on the attendance at each
evening Briefing or Forum night.
Critical to keeping this communication an efficient and effective process was having
access to transport to travel between camp ground administration centres. Having a
bicycle permanently available to the Yakkery was essential.
Recommendation 8
That communication with Branch Commissioners for Scouts begins at least 18
months prior to the Jamboree regarding the Forums.
Recommendation 9
Branches support the two-tiered approach to forums by ensuring they have in
place a democratic, youth centred process to select their Branch delegates.
Communication of their delegates must be completed well ahead of the
Jamboree.
Recommendation 10
Read/Write access to the Jamboree Application System by granted to the Youth
Forums Coordinator and that it incorporates fields that support the nomination
of Forum & Senate delegates to assist the administration of the Forums and
Senate.
Topic Selection Pre-Set topics for the Yakkery and Youth Forums were collected from a number of
sources. The National Team, National Rover Council (NRC), National Youth Council
(NYC), BCs Scouts, and the National Youth Program Team were all canvassed for input
and had provided input by early December 2012.
To help ensure engagement in the Forums, Scouts were also asked to nominate their
own ideas for topics at the forum briefing sessions. A process of narrowing down the
topics to a manageable number was then followed.
Recommendation 11
That topic ideas be sourced from a range of committee and councils, including
Branch Commissioners for Scouts, National Youth Program Team, National
Team, NRC and NYC, as well as Scouts themselves. Each of these groups should
be encourage to consider putting forward topics based on current issues that
are being delt with.
Budget An unknown budget was allocated to the Scout Forums, Senate and Yakkery. It proved
very difficult to gauge what sort of activity could be put together for the Yakkery without
knowing a working budget. Nevertheless, when requests were put forward to spend
money on various items, they were okayed.
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Costs included:
Marquee hire and erection, and floor
Consumables including permanent markers, certificate paper, white paper, and
butchers paper
Fans, easels, tables, chairs, etc.
Senate refreshments and lunch
Postage
Printing
Bicycle with helmet
Materials to create the Yakkery Activity (Giant Twister)
Costs associated with attendance at JCC meetings prior to the event.
The amount spent and claimed by the Yakkery Coordinator was $966.28. Additional
expenses amounting to approx.. $300 were claimed by others in the National Contingent
supporting the Yakkery. Receipts have been lodged with the Finance Directorate. All of
the expenses beyond that (mainly marquee, furniture, bikes, etc.) was entered through
the Jamboree EMS system, and managed by the Chief Director.
Recommendation 12
That an appropriate budget, based on previous activity expenses and current
costs, be allocated, and clearly communicated to, the Scout Forums, Senate and
Yakkery to properly resource the activity and ensure successful outcomes. It
would be useful to have access to the EMS for ordering and budgeting.
Appendix 1 – Yakkery Participation Log
Daily Patrol Count
YAKKERY Day: 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 TOTAL 8:30 - 9:30 22 17 12 13 13 10 11 12 110 9:30 - 10:30 21 9 19 20 16 21 31 30 167 10:30 - 11:30 10 11 16 17 17 22 21 34 148 LUNCH 0 1:30 - 2:30 18 11 20 24 20 15 19 29 156 2:30 - 3:30 12 16 20 28 16 27 27 15 161 3:30 - 4:30 11 8 12 8 13 22 15 8 97
TOTAL 94 72 99 110 95 117 124 128 839 patrols
5034 scouts
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Appendix 2 – Yakkery and Youth Forums Program Jamboree Day
Number + Date in January 2013
Session Time &
Location
Troops Reps That Attend
AJ Day 1 Wed 2nd
No Youth Forums Sessions Today
- -
AJ Day 2 Thur 3rd
No Youth Forum Sessions Today
- -
AJ Day 3 Fri 4th
Information Session 1 7pm – 8pm All Billabong + Outback 01-17
AJ Day 4 Sat 5th
Information Session 2 7pm – 8pm All Desert + Outback 18-33
AJ Day 5 Sun 6th
Market Day No Youth Forum Sessions Today
- -
AJ Day 6 Mon 7th
Information Session 3 7pm – 8pm All Highlands + Outback 34-56
AJ Day 7 Tue 8th
Youth Forum Session 1 7pm – 9pm All Billabong + Outback 01-17
AJ Day 8 Wed 9th
Youth Forum Session 2 7pm – 9pm All Desert + Outback 18-33
AJ Day 9 Thur 10th
Youth Forum Session 3 7pm – 9pm All Highlands + Outback 34-56
AJ Day 10 Fri 11th
No Youth Forums Sessions Today
- -
AJ Day 11 Sat 12th
Scout Senate 9am – 5pm Scout Senate Branch Delegates, NYC Delegates, and elected delegates from the Camping Ground Youth Forums.