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05May 200804 OSHO WORLD
Priests & Politicians
Priests & PoliticiansA
SilentC
onspiracy
A SilentConspiracy
All your so-called spiritual people are in deep conspiracy
with the politicians. There has always been a conspiracy
between the priest and the politician, a subtle strategy to
dominate people.
Your so-called spiritual persons don't say anything against the
establishment. That does not mean that they are not political -- in fact
they are for the establishment; they are political. They never say
anything against it -- their silence is their support.
In India, we have a saying: Maunam Sammati Lakshanam -- to be
silent is a sign of agreement, not to say anything is to agree.
Karl Marx is perfectly right as far as these so-called spiritual
persons are concerned, that religion has functioned as an opium for
the people. Your so-called religious people have been teaching others
to submit to the establishment, to obey the establishment, to never go
against the established order whatever it is.
I am not a religious person, a spiritual person, in that sense. I am a
rebel. You cannot categorise me with anybody else. And, to me, life is
an organic unity; it cannot be divided, it cannot be split. I will
comment on poetry, and I will comment on politics too, because life
consists of all these dimensions.
The Pope
blessed
Adolf Hitler.
Now, this is
what I call
subtle politics.
Blessing Adolf
Hitler is simply
getting into a
contract,
getting into a
conspiracy
-Osho
I am not a religious person, a spiritual person, in that sense. I am a rebel - Osho
'Forget the war in Iraq' - Bush
'Forget the child abuse by priests' - Pope
05May 200804 OSHO WORLD
Priests & Politicians
Priests & PoliticiansA
SilentC
onspiracy
A SilentConspiracy
All your so-called spiritual people are in deep conspiracy
with the politicians. There has always been a conspiracy
between the priest and the politician, a subtle strategy to
dominate people.
Your so-called spiritual persons don't say anything against the
establishment. That does not mean that they are not political -- in fact
they are for the establishment; they are political. They never say
anything against it -- their silence is their support.
In India, we have a saying: Maunam Sammati Lakshanam -- to be
silent is a sign of agreement, not to say anything is to agree.
Karl Marx is perfectly right as far as these so-called spiritual
persons are concerned, that religion has functioned as an opium for
the people. Your so-called religious people have been teaching others
to submit to the establishment, to obey the establishment, to never go
against the established order whatever it is.
I am not a religious person, a spiritual person, in that sense. I am a
rebel. You cannot categorise me with anybody else. And, to me, life is
an organic unity; it cannot be divided, it cannot be split. I will
comment on poetry, and I will comment on politics too, because life
consists of all these dimensions.
The Pope
blessed
Adolf Hitler.
Now, this is
what I call
subtle politics.
Blessing Adolf
Hitler is simply
getting into a
contract,
getting into a
conspiracy
-Osho
I am not a religious person, a spiritual person, in that sense. I am a rebel - Osho
'Forget the war in Iraq' - Bush
'Forget the child abuse by priests' - Pope
0706 OSHO WORLD MAY 2008
I am not a politician, true. But
when I see something going wrong,
I have to make people aware of it. I
have every right to speak on poetry,
although I am not a poet; I have
every right to speak on music,
though I am not a musician. But I
can show my likes and my dislikes,
I can indicate where things are
going.
I am simply a light. And if the
light is there in the room, it lights
everything that is there -- the
furniture, the painting on the wall,
the ceiling, and everything. I am
just a light, a mirror: I will reflect
everything that is happening.
So please forget that old
division. It has really been a
compromise; down the ages, the
politician and the priest have
bargained. This has been the
bargain, that the politician will not
interfere with the priest; he will pay
his respects to the priest, to the
church. And the priest should not
interfere with the politician; he
should pay his respects to the state,
and help people to be obedient to
the state.
I am in no conspiracy, in no
contract, with anybody. I will say
things as I see them, and I don't
care whether you think me spiritual
or not. Who cares? I know perfectly
well that thousands of Indians
will be puzzled, because they think
a spiritual person should not talk
about politics. They really don't
understand.
Do you think Krishna did not
talk about politics? He not only
talked about politics -- he
participated. In fact, Arjuna was
trying to escape from the war. It
was Krishna who persuaded him,
convinced him, that it was a war
which had to be fought. Because
when it is a question of evil and
good forces, you have to be with the
good forces.
And you have to be with the
future, because the past is gone and
gone for ever. Forget all about it.
Create the future, forget that which
has been. Don't waste your time
with it: create the future.
And the future has much thrill
in it; a great adventure is awaiting
you. And this country keeps
looking backwards. This country
never looks forwards. Its golden
age has passed; it was once,
thousands of years ago. If your
golden age is in the past, then life is
going to remain a drag, because
you will be falling and falling
farther and farther away from the
golden age.
This is not a right vision of
things. The golden age has to be in
the future; it always has to be
created. Your eyes should look
towards the future. And when you
look towards the future, your
present becomes meaningful,
because then there is a possibility of
great adventure, exploration. Then
the thrill of creativity grips you,
and the soul is created through it.
I am not a spiritual person in the
ordinary sense; I am a class unto
myself. You cannot categorise and
label me with others; I represent
nobody else but myself. What you
call me -- spiritual, religious, or
anything else that you want -- does
not matter. These labels are useless.
I will go on destroying your
labels. I will keep trespassing over
your labels and your boundaries.
That's what I have always been
doing: you try to define me, and I
destroy your definition, because
any and every definition is a
bondage. And I am not here to fulfil
anybody's expectations.
And to me, to divide life is to
create a schizophrenic world.
Politics and poetry and religion and
music and painting -- are all
together. These are all dimensions
of the same life. I accept life in its
totality. Remember, life is an
organic whole, it cannot be divided;
if you divide it, you destroy it.
I believe in totality, I believe in
wholeness. To me, to be whole is to
be holy, and there is no other kind
of holiness. To me, the totality of
life is God. Worship it in every
possible way.
I am not a politician; that is not
my choice. I have far better things
to do. I am not interested in
political power, because to me,
power is never there outside. Power
is something inside you, power is
your inner reality. And to be
powerful over others is ugly,
violent. Be a master of your own
self. That is true power. And a
power that never destroys is
intrinsically creative, and a power
out of which great poetry arises.
Politics is the concern with the
outside, politics is the concern to
change the circumstances. There is
a higher world than politics; that
higher world is of spirituality. It is a
concern not with the circumstances,
ces automatically.
but with the inner space.
Change the inner space of man, and
you will be changing his
circumstances automatically.
But still, people who are trying
to change the outer circumstances
are doing something; it has its own
importance. This is not my interest.
I would not like to go into active
politics, never. I am finished with
all toys, I am not childish. That does
not mean that I cannot comment on
toys. I am not a small child to play
with toys, but if a child is playing
with toys I can comment. I can say,
"Better toys are possible." I can say,
"This toy is dangerous, don't play
with it. This toy can harm you;
don't play with it -- throw it away."
This much I can say.
So I don't become a politician
just because I have commented on
politics. And I will go on
commenting, because I cannot just
be a spectator when millions of
people's lives are going slowly
slowly into darkness, into poverty. I
cannot just be a spectator. I always
wonder -- your so-called spiritual
persons who are just spectators,
what kind of spirituality do they
have? What kind of compassion do
they have? They are cunning
people; they have made secret deals
with the politicians. They keep
quiet, and they always keep people
in such a state that they never
in such a state that they never
become rebellious, that they never
become revolutionaries.
The politicians are always afraid
of the rebels. And my sannyasins
are going to be rebels, total rebels,
against all kinds of nonsense and
stupidity, against all kinds of
bondages.
My sole concern is religion, my
major concern is religion. But I will
comment on other things too,
because I take life in its totality. I
love life. To me, life means God.
But let me remind you again
that I am not a politician, and I
don't want you to become
politicians. I would like you to be
aware of the whole life as it is. And
a part of it is concerned with
politics; you have to be aware of
that too.
The Pope blessed Adolf Hitler.
Now, this is what I call subtle
politics. Blessing Adolf Hitler is
simply getting into a contract,
getting into a conspiracy.
All politicians are evil. Then
what should be done? Choose the
lesser evil.
I am not going to the masses to
tell them to vote for this or that; I
am not going into any activity. I
have far better things to do: my
energy has to remain involved with
my sannyasins. I am here to create
millions of mystics in sin the world.
That's my sole purpose, and that's
my joy and my celebration.
On the margin I am going to
comment on many things, but those
are all just marginal things. And I
am a spiritual person, not in the
sense that I am against the world; I
am a spiritual person because I
rejoice in the world. The world is
the manifestation of God.
My whole teaching is: Rejoice --
never renounce. Rejoice in the
totality of life, the wholeness of it.
Rejoice, and rejoice again.
It is natural; people have always
thought that spiritual persons have
to remain far away from worldly
affairs. To me, there is no affair
which is worldly; all affairs are the
same, all affairs belong to the one
centre. The ordinary life is also the
extraordinary life. It is only a
question of seeing, right seeing;
then even pebbles on the street are
transformed into diamonds.
I love life in its totality, as it is.
Politics is also part of it. It is not my
concern -- but because it is part of
life, I am going to comment on it.
-Osho, Unio Mystica,
Vol-2, Ch 8.
My whole
teaching is:
Rejoice -- never
renounce. Rejoice
in the totality of
life, the wholeness
of it. Rejoice, and
rejoice again.
"All politicians are evil. Then what should
be done? Choose the lesser evil." - Osho
This has been the
bargain, that the
politician will not
interfere with the
priest; he will pay
his respects to the
priest, to the
church. And the
priest should not
interfere with the
politician; he
should pay his
respects to the state,
and help people to
be obedient to the
state
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0706 OSHO WORLD MAY 2008
I am not a politician, true. But
when I see something going wrong,
I have to make people aware of it. I
have every right to speak on poetry,
although I am not a poet; I have
every right to speak on music,
though I am not a musician. But I
can show my likes and my dislikes,
I can indicate where things are
going.
I am simply a light. And if the
light is there in the room, it lights
everything that is there -- the
furniture, the painting on the wall,
the ceiling, and everything. I am
just a light, a mirror: I will reflect
everything that is happening.
So please forget that old
division. It has really been a
compromise; down the ages, the
politician and the priest have
bargained. This has been the
bargain, that the politician will not
interfere with the priest; he will pay
his respects to the priest, to the
church. And the priest should not
interfere with the politician; he
should pay his respects to the state,
and help people to be obedient to
the state.
I am in no conspiracy, in no
contract, with anybody. I will say
things as I see them, and I don't
care whether you think me spiritual
or not. Who cares? I know perfectly
well that thousands of Indians
will be puzzled, because they think
a spiritual person should not talk
about politics. They really don't
understand.
Do you think Krishna did not
talk about politics? He not only
talked about politics -- he
participated. In fact, Arjuna was
trying to escape from the war. It
was Krishna who persuaded him,
convinced him, that it was a war
which had to be fought. Because
when it is a question of evil and
good forces, you have to be with the
good forces.
And you have to be with the
future, because the past is gone and
gone for ever. Forget all about it.
Create the future, forget that which
has been. Don't waste your time
with it: create the future.
And the future has much thrill
in it; a great adventure is awaiting
you. And this country keeps
looking backwards. This country
never looks forwards. Its golden
age has passed; it was once,
thousands of years ago. If your
golden age is in the past, then life is
going to remain a drag, because
you will be falling and falling
farther and farther away from the
golden age.
This is not a right vision of
things. The golden age has to be in
the future; it always has to be
created. Your eyes should look
towards the future. And when you
look towards the future, your
present becomes meaningful,
because then there is a possibility of
great adventure, exploration. Then
the thrill of creativity grips you,
and the soul is created through it.
I am not a spiritual person in the
ordinary sense; I am a class unto
myself. You cannot categorise and
label me with others; I represent
nobody else but myself. What you
call me -- spiritual, religious, or
anything else that you want -- does
not matter. These labels are useless.
I will go on destroying your
labels. I will keep trespassing over
your labels and your boundaries.
That's what I have always been
doing: you try to define me, and I
destroy your definition, because
any and every definition is a
bondage. And I am not here to fulfil
anybody's expectations.
And to me, to divide life is to
create a schizophrenic world.
Politics and poetry and religion and
music and painting -- are all
together. These are all dimensions
of the same life. I accept life in its
totality. Remember, life is an
organic whole, it cannot be divided;
if you divide it, you destroy it.
I believe in totality, I believe in
wholeness. To me, to be whole is to
be holy, and there is no other kind
of holiness. To me, the totality of
life is God. Worship it in every
possible way.
I am not a politician; that is not
my choice. I have far better things
to do. I am not interested in
political power, because to me,
power is never there outside. Power
is something inside you, power is
your inner reality. And to be
powerful over others is ugly,
violent. Be a master of your own
self. That is true power. And a
power that never destroys is
intrinsically creative, and a power
out of which great poetry arises.
Politics is the concern with the
outside, politics is the concern to
change the circumstances. There is
a higher world than politics; that
higher world is of spirituality. It is a
concern not with the circumstances,
ces automatically.
but with the inner space.
Change the inner space of man, and
you will be changing his
circumstances automatically.
But still, people who are trying
to change the outer circumstances
are doing something; it has its own
importance. This is not my interest.
I would not like to go into active
politics, never. I am finished with
all toys, I am not childish. That does
not mean that I cannot comment on
toys. I am not a small child to play
with toys, but if a child is playing
with toys I can comment. I can say,
"Better toys are possible." I can say,
"This toy is dangerous, don't play
with it. This toy can harm you;
don't play with it -- throw it away."
This much I can say.
So I don't become a politician
just because I have commented on
politics. And I will go on
commenting, because I cannot just
be a spectator when millions of
people's lives are going slowly
slowly into darkness, into poverty. I
cannot just be a spectator. I always
wonder -- your so-called spiritual
persons who are just spectators,
what kind of spirituality do they
have? What kind of compassion do
they have? They are cunning
people; they have made secret deals
with the politicians. They keep
quiet, and they always keep people
in such a state that they never
in such a state that they never
become rebellious, that they never
become revolutionaries.
The politicians are always afraid
of the rebels. And my sannyasins
are going to be rebels, total rebels,
against all kinds of nonsense and
stupidity, against all kinds of
bondages.
My sole concern is religion, my
major concern is religion. But I will
comment on other things too,
because I take life in its totality. I
love life. To me, life means God.
But let me remind you again
that I am not a politician, and I
don't want you to become
politicians. I would like you to be
aware of the whole life as it is. And
a part of it is concerned with
politics; you have to be aware of
that too.
The Pope blessed Adolf Hitler.
Now, this is what I call subtle
politics. Blessing Adolf Hitler is
simply getting into a contract,
getting into a conspiracy.
All politicians are evil. Then
what should be done? Choose the
lesser evil.
I am not going to the masses to
tell them to vote for this or that; I
am not going into any activity. I
have far better things to do: my
energy has to remain involved with
my sannyasins. I am here to create
millions of mystics in sin the world.
That's my sole purpose, and that's
my joy and my celebration.
On the margin I am going to
comment on many things, but those
are all just marginal things. And I
am a spiritual person, not in the
sense that I am against the world; I
am a spiritual person because I
rejoice in the world. The world is
the manifestation of God.
My whole teaching is: Rejoice --
never renounce. Rejoice in the
totality of life, the wholeness of it.
Rejoice, and rejoice again.
It is natural; people have always
thought that spiritual persons have
to remain far away from worldly
affairs. To me, there is no affair
which is worldly; all affairs are the
same, all affairs belong to the one
centre. The ordinary life is also the
extraordinary life. It is only a
question of seeing, right seeing;
then even pebbles on the street are
transformed into diamonds.
I love life in its totality, as it is.
Politics is also part of it. It is not my
concern -- but because it is part of
life, I am going to comment on it.
-Osho, Unio Mystica,
Vol-2, Ch 8.
My whole
teaching is:
Rejoice -- never
renounce. Rejoice
in the totality of
life, the wholeness
of it. Rejoice, and
rejoice again.
"All politicians are evil. Then what should
be done? Choose the lesser evil." - Osho
This has been the
bargain, that the
politician will not
interfere with the
priest; he will pay
his respects to the
priest, to the
church. And the
priest should not
interfere with the
politician; he
should pay his
respects to the state,
and help people to
be obedient to the
state
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ead or isten toull iscourse onwww.oshoworld.com
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ead or isten toull iscourse on