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Page 1: A337 File Design Computerized and Manual Systems 4/4/2012

A337

File DesignComputerized and Manual

Systems4/4/2012

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Topics for the remainder of the term:

• Basic discussion of how accounting information systems have evolved from manual to computerized systems

• Normalization of data - structure of databases - taking the data as “given”

• Discussion of Microsoft Access and other DBMS systems

• REA analysis - another tool for designing the structure of databases - but not taking the data as given.

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Topics

• How do accounting systems work in a manual world– SUA

• First extension– Same basic structure, but automating the updating

process• Second extension

– Transaction entry from screen documents– ACCPAC, PeachTree, Great Plains

• Third extension– Integrated

accounting/management/finance/marketing software

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First Extension

• Automating data entry– Ledgers should not be modified directly

• (only through data entry)– There should be a “log” of all data entry– Access to data entry should be controlled

• Example - project 2b

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First Extension

• This extension essentially just took the manual system and put it on computer

• There were no REAL changes in the structure.

• The journal/ledger structure might be affected.

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Where would we go next?

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Second Extension

• Focus is still on Accounting, but the transaction data that is captured and stored is expanded.

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Traditional Accounting System

• Each customer, vendor, or other party that we engage in transactions with will probably have a file that details our interactions

• Once we engage in a transaction, the data is, of course recorded in a journal. Sometimes, even with traditional systems, we maintain additional information - but typically in a different place and there is no necessary reconciliation of the two sources of information.

How and where is the data stored

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• Event-driven system– Typically all of the document information is included

in the database (otherwise why would you have it on the document?)

• Who, What, When, Where from a document is recorded– Example from the SUA

How are databases different from traditional storage for accounting information?

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Where

Who

What

When

How are databases different from traditional storage for accounting information?

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Third Extension

• Enterprise - Resource - Planning (ERP) systems

• Sold/provided by large software vendors

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ERPsEnterprise Resource Planning

software• What it is:

– Integrative Software Tool that incorporates:• Production• Accounting• Marketing• Human Resources• Financial Management

– Modules• Programs on top of a database structure• Frequently Oracle databases are used

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Providers

• SAP – they were the leader

• Oracle – since they were the database leader they already

had the infrastructure• JDEdwards• PeopleSoft

– started as a Human Resource Mgt company and then expanded from there.

• OTHERS...

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Approaches

• In house– Large data requirements and personnel

commitment– Better control over features– Faster application

• Web driven– Lower cost– Security issues?

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Advantages of ERPs

• Coordination and business process improvement– If everyone else in your industry has better

business processes than your company, what does that mean to you?…..

• Better information– You are more aware of how efficiently you

are operating.

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Disadvantages of ERPs

• Cost– ERPs (especially In House) are quite expensive to

implement. There is also a LONG startup period (two to three years)

• People– Many people may not buy into it - and it doesn’t work

unless everyone (or most everyone) does.– Personnel to run the system are expensive and hard

to keep for In House systems• It can overwhelm your business

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What does it mean to auditors

• Should be viewed as both an opportunity and a threat to assurance services– Opportunity - consulting and

implementation services can provide additional revenues

– Threat - data security is a big question mark for ERPs

• Auditors cannot afford to be behind the technological curve here