alcohol, drugs, and fast food
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Alcohol, Drugs, and Fast Food
There are many things as humans we choose to indulge ourselves with, and for many different
reasons, and all are a form of escapism. Even Fast food, those moments whilst you stuff your face
full of this seemingly delicious heart ache and the rest of the world vanishes can be truly
exhilarating, but what does religion have to say on the subject?
Overall
When looking at any of this there are some sections at the core of their belief systems
Christianity What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you,
which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? (1 Corinthians 6:19)
PaganAn harm none, do what thou wilt this essentially means as long as you are not hurtinganyone do what you will, it is a matter of perspective if the NONE includes yourself. There are so
many pagan religions that I havent included them past this due to wanting to minimise the
documents length, which is a pretty meaty 13 pages long.
Alcohol
Christianity
Jesus began his public life by miraculously turning water into wine at the Wedding at Cana (John 2:1-10) when the reception ran out.
This is a debated topic, apparently wine is a mistranslation and it was actually grape of the vine in
other words, grape juice not wine. This makes it all the less miraculous as he could have had some
concentrated grape powder...
Isaiah 65:8. Thus saith the Lord, As the new wine is found in the cluster, and one saith, Destroy it
not; for a blessing is in it: so will I dofor my servants' sakes, that I may not destroy them all.
When the juice of the grape is still in the cluster God calls it wine. Grape juice still in the cluster
is not fermented wine. It is unfermented wine. It is grape juice. There are two kinds of wine in
the Bible. Fermented and unfermented.
You would think an omniscient god could have been a bit clearer on the matter so his followers
wouldnt get confused wouldnt you? It almost seems like he wants people to stumble on the way to
heaven...
If we are to assume that it is wine, then it would imply that wine is okay. In fact The Bible
distinguishes between use and misuse. It says,
Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish and wine unto those that be of heavy hearts.
(Proverbs 31:6-7) this essentially means those that are dying (or ready to) give strong alcohol, and
those that are depressed/love sick give them wine.
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There are a couple of translations that amuse me
NIV: Give beer to those who are perishing, wine to those who are in anguish; beer is weaker than
wine, so I am not sure how this translation came about unless the fermenting process for ale in
those times meant it was stronger than the wine.
NLT: Alcohol is for the dying, and wine for those in bitter distress because we all know, wine isnt
really alcohol at all?
You see how these new translations have actually muddied the water further?
Woe unto them that rise up early in the morning, that they may follow strong drink; that continue
until night, till wine inflame them!Isaiah 5:11
This is essentially preaching against alcoholism
Prov 20:1: Wine is a mocker, strong drink is a brawler, and whoever is led astray by it is not wise.
It was a luxury that was not to be abused
Yet the simple joys of drinking were also sung. He causeth the grass to grow for the cattle, and herb
for the service of man: that he may bring forth food out of the earth; And wine that maketh glad the
heart of man and oil to make his face to shineth.Psalm 104:14-15
Leviticus 10:9-10Do not drink wine nor strong drink, thou, nor thy sons with thee, when ye go into
the tabernacle of the congregation, lest ye die: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your
generations: And that ye may put difference between holy and unholy, and between unclean and
clean
This seems like it is saying you shouldnt drink when you are going to be going to
congregation/service, and that service is holy, where drink is unholy and you should not mix the holy
with the unholy but then Catholics drink wine at mass?
There are some that believe the passage above is disallowing drinking completely. I understand this
as it is saying the alcohol is unholy, your body is the temple of the holy spirit, and you would be
filling your body with something unholy.
From these passages it would be safe to say that a good Christian would not drink at all, and if they
did it would be weak alcohol or wine, and very little.
Hindu
Hinduism is a spiritual tradition that is not based upon mere faith or belief but upon an
understanding of dharma, the natural laws behind the universe. So the question for Hindus is how
does the use of alcohol fit in with its sense of dharma and how does it affect us karmically? Alcohol is
also part of the use of intoxicants and depressants/stimulants in general, not a separate item.
Many monastic orders from India, both Hindu and non-Hindu, take various vows like celibacy.
Refraining from alcohol is another such vow that most of these monks swear to. Some Hindu Tantric
groups, on the other hand, use alcohol in a sacred way, either as an offering to the deity or as takenindividually during certain special rituals. Relative to non-monastic Hindus, Hindu merchants and
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aristocrats have historically used alcohol, just as they have not practiced celibacy. Many continue to
use alcohol today, without necessarily falling into alcoholism.
There is saying in sanskrit ati sarvatra varjayet , which means anything extreme(ati=too much) is
always a bad thing . One can also say miti(too less) also as an extreme.
Buddist
One of the Five Precepts in Buddhism warns against taking intoxicants causing heedlessness. But
since these are precepts and not commandments, every Buddhist has to approach them in their own
way. Some Buddhists refrain from alcohol and drugs altogether, and some are casual/social drinkers.
The reason this precept exists is to encourage practitioners to keep their minds clear and lucid at all
times. You can't meditate if you're intoxicated, after all. ;-)
Buddhism really doesn't get into the whole "thou shalt not" thing. The Buddha left it up to us tomake wise, enlightened decisions, based on the teachings he left behind, but he also realized that
we all had to find the paths that worked best for each of us individually. If you find something that
works for you on your path, you should pursue it. If you find something that hinders your path, you
should abandon it ... even if it's something he taught.
They teach "Clarity". Alcohol causes a befuddled state
There is no sin in Buddhism only lack of progress.
Islam
Islams holistic approach to health and well-being means that anything that is harmful or mostly
harmful, is forbidden. Therefore, Islam takes an uncompromising stand towards alcohol and forbids
its consumption in either small or large quantities
God tells us in the Quran that intoxicants and gambling are abominations from Satan and orders us
to avoid them.
O you who believe! Intoxicants, gambling, idolatry, and diving arrows are an abomination of
Satans handiwork. So avoid that so that you may be successful. (Quran 5: 90)
Satan wants only to excite enmity and hatred between you with intoxicants and gambling, and
hinder you from the remembrance of God and from the prayer. So, will you not then abstain?
(Quran 5:91)
Drugs
Islam, Budhism would be the same as above
Christianity - god did say that the body is the temple of the holy spirit, so pretty much everything
that causes you damage is indeed wrong. This would definitely include the manmade chemicals
which came from gods plants using the brains & free will god gave us, but as he is omniscient he
would know man would one day do this so one can only assume god would be okay with it? If not he
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would have laid down some laws on this right? Could one allow oneself a brief experimentation with
all drugs, if sensibly taken with no lasting effects? If you think about it, if you do no permanent
damage to the temple of the Holy Spirit, are you breaking that sin?
What is the Word of God on the Cannabis plant?
The hemp plant (scientific name: cannabis, slang: marijuana) is one of the many useful herbs
"yielding seed after its kind" created and blessed by God on the third day of creation, "and God saw
that it was good." (Genesis 1:12) He gave hemp for people to use with our free will.
God said, "Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed which is upon the face of all the earth....
To you it will be for meat." And God saw everything that he had made, and, behold, it was very
good. (Genesis 1:29-31) The Bible predicts some herb's prohibition. "Now the Spirit speaketh
expressly, that in the latter times, some shall speak lies in hypocrisy commanding to abstain
from meats which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and
know the truth. (Paul: 1 Timothy 4:1-3)
The Bible speaks of a special plant. "I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no
more consumed with hunger in the land, neither bear the shame of the heathen anymore." (Ezekiel
34:29) A healing plant. On either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare 12 manner
of fruits, and yielding her fruit every month; and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the
nations. (Revelations 22:1-2) A gift from God.
How was cannabis used in Biblical times and lands?
Cannabis was used 12 ways: clothing, paper, cord, sails, fishnet, oil, sealant, incense, food, and in
ceremony, relaxation and medicine. For so the Lord said unto me, "I will take my rest and I will
consider in my dwelling place like a clear heat upon herbs. For afore harvest, when the bud is perfectand the sour grape is ripening in the flower, he shall cut off the sprigs with pruning hooks and take
away and cut down the branches." (Isaiah 18:4-5)
What about cannabis today?
Hemp today has thousands of uses. Modern technology has devised many new uses for the hemp
plant-like biomass energy, building materials, fuel, plastic and so on. Hemp is ecological and its seed
is among the best food crops on Earth. Selected varieties produce flowers that provide an herbal
relaxant and a spiritual tool. Its herb is used globally as medicine.
Conclusion?
Alcohol is the only drug openly discussed in the Bible, so it must serve as our reference, as we can
see from the Christian statements above its okay at times but you probably shouldnt do it or much
of it... perhaps you should ingest it instead of inhale?
Jesus said not to criticize other people for their habits. "Not that which goeth into the mouth
defileth a man; that which cometh out of the mouth defileth a man." (Mat. 15:11) The apostle Paul
wrote, I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to
him that esteemeth anything to be unclean, to him it is unclean. For the kingdom of God is not
meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost. (Paul: Romans 14:14,17)
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The Bible says that God created hemp for people to use "as meat," (ie, to consume), that its seed oil
is to be used as an ointment, and that cannabis is "to be received with thanks-giving of them which
believe and know the truth." Paul also warned that some people would "speak lies in hypocrisy" and
prohibit us from using it.
It also says that we "shall not bear false witness" about people who use cannabis, nor judge thembecause that judgement is reserved to the Lord. The Lord hates those who speak lies and sow
discord among brethern. For those people harrassed and imprisoned for using cannabis rightfuly,
Jesus offers these words of comfort, "Blessed are those persecuted for righteousness's sake: For
theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven."
Thats Relgion go to the next page to find the SCIENCE
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SCIENCE
Now the science of all drugs, including alcohol, is interesting indeed! In the UK we had a man do a
study on the drugs, their effects, harms, and why people have a worse opinion over certain drugs.
You can read the whole study here:http://www.crimeandjustice.org.uk/opus1714/Estimating_drug_harms.pdf
And he has done others since and before which further back up his claims. The guy was employed by
the government to give factual evidence about drugs, and because he said controversial things
things like statistically you have more chance of being killed by a horse than by ecstasy he was fired.
First lets look at which drugs do the most harm
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Now lets take a look at the media bias, essentially looking at how many of the drug related deaths
get reported
So what we can see is that nearly every ecstasy related death is reported where was people who
abused prescribed drugs such as diazepam, temazepam and methadone have a higher death rate
but nowhere near as many of these stories reach the paper, making it look like ecstasy is more
dangerous than it is..
The other thing youll notice is that there is a drug missing, and thats cannabis. Also missing is
alcohol, which will have killed a similar number, 2,000 to 3,000 people, in Scotland over that time,
maybe more. Of course, cannabis wouldnt have killed anyone because it doesnt kill.
More info on Nutt:http://www.benzo.org.uk/amisc/nutt.pdf
For a more detailed look into things there is also his book which I intend to read called Drugs
without the hot air -http://www.uit.co.uk/B-DWTHA/HomePage
What the documents show is that the LEGAL drugs, tobacco and alcohol, are up there with the most
dangerous, and other drugs that are perceived as really bad, whilst do have negative health effects,
in the grand scheme of things are probably better for you than a supersize big mac meal.
I would of course encourage you to google for more information and not stop at the first site you
find, check, double check, and make sure you read things based in FACT through STUDY,
EXPERIMENTATION, and have EVIDENCE to support their claims.
http://www.erowid.org/- Errowid is a good site if you want to learn more about the drugs, how to
take them safely, the effects they have, how they work etc. as I said, dont stop there, keep
looking and learning!!
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In conclusion SCIENCE tells us that we shouldnt really be doing these drink and drugs too, most
definitely not the legal ones so if you are religious you have double the reason not to partake, of
course most people who claim to be religious only listen to a small percentage of their religion
saying parts of it have been negated, eg a lot of Christians say Jesus negated the old testament when
he clearly states that he has not negated the laws of old and supports previous prophets just see
Matthew 5:17-19, Luke 16:17, 2 Peter 20-21 etc.
What do I think? as long as you are not hurting anyone, and that includes yourself through abuse
(which in turn will hurt those you love), and are not pressuring anyone into doing anything they
dont want to do, do what you want, experiment if you so wish, or dont. It is your life to live but be
informed and know the risks.
Fast Food
As fast food was no round in these times it is hard to do a direct link however we can use the existing
beliefs and apply it to todays standards.
Hinduism - Having well considered the origin of flesh-foods, and the cruelty of fettering and slaying
corporeal beings, let man entirely abstain from eating flesh. The Manu-smrti (5.49)
This applies to all meat, and you can bet that animals used for the meat in fast food chains are not
looked after well.
Christianity past the body is the temple written above there isnt much we can say about this. Fast
food wasnt around when this was written, however there are guidelines of what you cant eat
Leviticus 11:1-12 - King James Version (KJV)
11 And the LORD spake unto Moses and to Aaron, saying unto them,
2Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, These are the beasts which ye shall eat among all the
beasts that are on the earth.
3Whatsoever parteth the hoof, and is clovenfooted, and cheweth the cud, among the beasts, that
shall ye eat.
4Nevertheless these shall ye not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the hoof: as
the camel, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
5And the coney, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
6And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
7And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is
unclean to you.
8Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you.
9 These shall ye eat of all that are in the waters: whatsoever hath fins and scales in the waters, in theseas, and in the rivers, them shall ye eat.
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10And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters,
and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you:
11They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their
carcases in abomination.
12Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you.
So pork, lobster, crab, rabbit and many other animals should not be eaten, but this is not observed
by most Christians.
Islam
The food that is allowed for Muslim to eat and what is forbidden for him to eat is based, mainly, on
the following two Quran sayings (Meaning English translation):
1. Quran, Chapter 5, verse 3: " Forbidden (for food) to you (Muslims) are: Al-Maitah (deadanimals-cattle-beast not slaughtered), blood, the flesh of swine (Pork), and that on which
Allah's name has not been mentioned while slaughtering, (that which has been slaughtered
as a sacrifice for others than Allah or has slaughtered for idols) and that which has been
killed by strangling, or by a violent blow, or by a headlong fall, or by the goring of horns- and
that which has been (partly) eaten by a wild animal-unless being able to slaughter it (before
its death)-.... But as for him who is forced by severe hunger, with no inclination to sin by
eating what is forbidden above, then surely Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful"
2. Quran, Chapter 5, verse 5: " Made lawful to you this day At-Tayyibat (all kinds of lawfulfoods, which Allah has made lawful (meat of slaughtered eatable animals, milk products,fats, vegetables and fruits). The food (slaughtered cattle, eatable animals) of the people of
the Scripture (Jews and Christians) is lawful to you and yours is lawful to them..."
From the above, it is clear that what is forbidden to eat, except in cases of severe hunger, are mainly
dead animals, pork, blood, and what is not slaughtered under name of God.
So should Muslims eat fast food? In a word No. Unless there is a Halaal fast food joint chances are
the meat is not killed in the acceptable way nor the special prayer said at the killing. Missing
breakfast is not severe hunger.
Allah says in the Holy Quran Chapter 5 Surah Maidah verse 5:
All the good and pure things have today been made halaal for you; the food of the people of the
Book (Jews and Christians) is halaal for you , and your food for them.
It is evident from the above aayah of the Holy Quran that the food of the People of the Book (Jews
and the Christians) is halaal for the believers. Some people say that the People of the Book today
commit shirk and since the food of the mushriks is haraam, therefore the food slaughtered by the
People of the Book is also haraam. This deduction is incorrect, as the Quran itself condemns the
Jews and Christians for invoking their Prophets as the son of Allah and thus committing shirk. But
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Allah has made the food of the People of the Book halaal as seen in the above aayah of Surah
Maidah in the Holy Quran.
If the below five conditions are met, the food served by the People of the Book will be termed halaal
for the believers.
1. The animal itself should be halaal in Shariah. (Even if a muslim (Allah forbid) were to slaughter
swine, it will not make it halaal!!).
2. The one who slaughters the animal must either be a Muslim, or a Jew or a Christian. If any other
person slaughters the animal, it will not be considered halaal.
3. The animal has to be slaughtered and the blood should be oozed out naturally. It does not
matter if the animal is slaughtered by hand or by a machine, from the front of the neck or from
the back. What is important is that the veins must be cut to allow the blood to be oozed out of
the body.
4. The animal should have been alive at the time of slaughter. It is a routine in most slaughterhouses
in the West that they electrocute or sting the animal with an electric shock, and then slaughter
the animal. That is fine, as long as one is satisfied that the electric shock did not kill the animal
before its slaughter!
5. The condition that Allahs name has to be pronounced is not a condition for the People of the
Book, as long as nobody elses name is pronounced. If anybody elses name other than Allah is
pronounced at the time of slaughter, it does not matter who slaughters the animal, the meat is
haraam.
Can any Muslim guarantee this has happened when eating their fast food? I think not. Any Muslim
out there should have a think and consider if he/she is a real Muslim or not an re-evaluate ones
choices to risk eating food that could be haraam.
Buddhism
Meat and fish are not eaten by many people in the Theravada and Mahayana schools of Buddhism.
Some believers in both Theravada and Mahayana are vegans, and some particularly from China and
Vietnam do not eat onion, garlic or leek either - referring to these as the five pungent spices.
Buddha advised the monks to avoid eating ten kinds of meat for their self-respect and protection:
humans, elephants, horses, dogs, snakes, lions, tigers, boars and hyenas.
There are no set dietary laws in Buddhism. Buddhist dietary restrictions are structured very
differently than those of the Abrahamic religions such as Judaism and Islam. As you can see from
above those religions dietary restrictions make a clear distinction between permitted foods and
forbidden foods. By contrast, there is no such clear distinction between permitted and forbidden
foods in Buddhism. Therefore, there is a great deal of diversity in Buddhist practise.
In the time of the Buddha, the monks were expected to eat everything that was put in their beggingbowl without discrimination, including meat or rotten food.
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The first Precept is often interpreted as do not harm, and many Buddhists choose to be vegetarian
as a result of this precept. One basic tenet of Buddhism is that of reincarnation and the belief that
animals can be reincarnated as humans and vice versa. As a result, Buddhists do not kill animals, and
many do not eat meat or fish because this is considered to be bad for their karma. Buddhism and
Jainism are the main religions who give utmost importance to Ahimsa (non- violence) and so there is
a relationship with vegetarian belief in Buddhism.
CONCLUSION
With the exception of Buddhism which takes a pretty liberal stance on food, it would seem that most
of these religions have an issue with Pork and in fact there have been tests to show the bad sides of
pork, for example eating processed pork such as one sausage or two pieces of bacon a day can
increase your risk of pancreatic cancer up to 40% and in the cases of people that have a large meaty
diet (as in lots of red-meat, pork, and not much in the way of veg, fruit etc) it can increase your risk
of cancer by 70%
Also Pork is known to cause CLOTTING however an experiment was carried out and blood cells
examined after eating pork.
Below, youre looking at the red blood cells of a 52-year old man before (left) and 5 hours after
(right) eating an unmarinated pork chop. Notice how the red blood cells (RBCs) are highly
aggregated. This blood condition disrupts microcirculation and is proof of an inflammatory response.
Next, this is the blood of the same man before (left) and 5 hours after (right) eating a traditionally-
prepared, marinated pork chop. Notice how the RBCs are mostly free to move, although there are
some groups clumped together. This blood is well within a healthy, normal range.
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And finally, this last image is of the red blood cells of a 37 year old female before (left) and 5 hours
after (right) eating uncured bacon. Notice how its completely free of clotting factors or any signs of
an inflammatory response!
Similar results were found for all individuals. Turns out, just eating plain, unmarinated pork caused a
bad reaction in the blood, but eating any traditionally-prepared pork caused either no reaction or a
reaction within the scope of normal. And, as a control for the study, they looked at the blood of
these same subjects after eating unmarinated lamb chops and found that there was also no negative
reaction in the blood. In other words, this isnt the bodys normal reaction to unmarinated meat, but
specifically to unmarinated pork!
The entire article can be found here:http://www.westonaprice.org/food-features/how-does-pork-
prepared-in-various-ways-affect-the-blood
So should those who are not religious steer away from pork? Like most things in your diet, it is best
for it to be balanced, not to have too much or too little of anything, make sure it is prepared
properly, and savour every last minute of it.
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SUMMARY
Ive found this quite enjoyable, looking into different cultures and beliefs, throwing in a bit of science
for good measure, and learning how clueless some people seem to be to their religion. It is not just
Christians who seem to buck against their own values and find excuses but those of other faiths too.
What I dont understand is why these people subscribe to a religion, hold a few ofits values dear,
and ignore the rest. Doesnt that seem a bit wrong for people to be second guessing their God?
Or perhaps they dont really know their religion, havent read their holy books, or just say they are of
a certain religion because they think it is expected off of them.
How do these people ever expect to convert anyone when they have trouble holding up their own
ideals? These are basic ones around consumables, and realistically are easy to uphold, so if they
cant stick to them, how can we expect them to stick to any of the others