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Conversation started August 10 12:06pm Amanda Whosoever Little tidbit whoever is a mutual friend with you & tonya is telling her what your putting on your facebook.  Timothy T rident will defin itely tell her ... Be careful sis...  Y ou already know I know what this is lik e... I'm truly keeping my distance with her atm. She threw me under the bus in the snap of her fingers... So with what she is doing with you right now, I wonder is that what she did when we stopped talking? And I agree with what you sent her . *yes she sent it to me & posted it to her fb as well* I've got some of my own beliefs....and I'm not jumping the bashing bandwagon.  Y ou can see statuses she cannot atm as well. Beware you have rats on your friends list. 12:09pm Evelyn Kate Whelan thanks but I think Tim was just trying to find out what h appened he was honest and told me he was talking to her to find out what happened because I didn't want to share me and Tonya's pm's 12:09pm Amanda Whosoever  The mutual friends we have that yo u have with her are T ony Ross, Jerrae &  Timothy T rident...

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like really

............

WHAT THE FUCK

LUKE? REALLY.......

wtf is that?

WOW

come on now....

12:20am

Evelyn Kate WhelanBut the thing is she felt uncomfortable and she also felt uncomfortable whenher mom cussed I feel like that is religion holding her back from being herself I mean maybe she shouldn't have said it in front of the guys but to feel badabout just trying to be yourself is just faking who you are

12:20am

Amanda Whosoever

you should record that

seriously!

12:20am

Evelyn Kate Whelan

for what?

12:20am

Amanda Whosoever

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12:20am

Evelyn Kate Whelan

I let shit go

12:20am

Amanda Whosoever

idk!

LOL

sorry

lol

12:21am

Evelyn Kate Whelan

no it's okay I actually had the thought run in my mind LOL

12:21amAmanda Whosoever

i wish we would have popped in

EXCUSE ME

lol

12:21am

Evelyn Kate Whelan

what's the point?

12:21am

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Amanda Whosoever

she's gonna give him shit

12:21am

Evelyn Kate Whelan

she would just cause more drama

12:21am

Amanda Whosoever

LOLthat is what she was going off air todo

to do*

HAHAHAHA

poor alex

12:22amEvelyn Kate Whelan

I don't need to expose her she's gonna do it herself

12:22am

Amanda Whosoever

like really ON THE RECORD

12:22am

Evelyn Kate Whelan

she's slippin

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lol

12:22am

Amanda Whosoever

12:22am

Amanda Whosoever

i watched her face drop

12:22am

Evelyn Kate Whelan

lol okay gotta read your message from earlier

12:22am

Amanda Whosoever

like you did NOT just say tahtthat* to alex

12:23am

Evelyn Kate Whelan

LOL

lol she's so busted she HAS to edit that

I hope she doesn't tho

but what would it do? religious ppl are still gonna buy her garbage

12:25am

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Amanda Whosoever

lol

i cannot believe they swallow that whole

without twisting their head going "say what?!"

"told me to block her"

like really?

and this content she speaks of

HORRIBLE

sperm and egg game with 4 guys

that seems awfulit is NOT good

wow

12:28am

Evelyn Kate Whelan

the sperm egg thing I could understand if other women were there she probgot use to her mom and me being there it's no biggie to me but the wholegossip issue is straight up showing in that

12:28am

Amanda Whosoever

im ... (speechless)

but add the two

its bad...

12:28am

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yeah lol

12:28am

Amanda Whosoever

lol

wow she's so gonna give alex shit

just sayin

LMAO

and busted was her nameo

12:29am

Evelyn Kate Whelan

yep notice how he said I hate to dampin the mood but he's a preterist YETshe has nothing against preterism? yeah flippin right.

that's why she blocked Jerry too

did you know that?

she has bugs whispering in her ear about preterism

12:30am

Amanda Whosoever

dampen the mood?

yes i know she blocked jerry

i saw that after he commented

she admits it after she does it

12:31am

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Evelyn Kate Whelan

why block Jerry too?

12:31am

Amanda Whosoever

and a whole bunch of people are being affected

cause she wanted to gossip about you

lol

without him seeing

12:32am

Evelyn Kate Whelan

prob but I still think it has to do with preterism

I could be wrong but things just don't add up

she prob dumped you Amanda on your beliefs of love she told me she's sickof hearing about love (she didn't mention your name)

12:33am

Amanda Whosoever

well that's how i had been from the get go

12:34am

Evelyn Kate Whelan

I bet you it was about the google hangout vid you did

12:34am

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Amanda Whosoever

so what she is doing is vindictive

yep

she was pissed

and tried saying it wasnt me rotflmao

unfriended me before i could even explain what it was about

im stunned

12:36am

Evelyn Kate Whelanhmmm someone feels guilty about something

12:36am

Amanda Whosoever

why do you say that?

12:36am

Evelyn Kate Whelan

not you silly

if she thought it was about her

and it involved love

sorry I'm amped up now

lol

it's pure bullshit

12:38am

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Did you tell him that Tonya deleted you?

12:53am

Evelyn Kate Whelan

He asked a few weeks okay if you guys were okay I was talking to Tonya atthe time and so I told her he asked and what to tell him she said how did heknow so I asked him how do you know he said Tonya deleted her a coupleweeks ago and told Tonya and she said yeah tell him we are okay now

1:12am

Amanda Whosoever

No I did not...not that I recall

.....

She told Tim too?

WTF........

1:13am

Evelyn Kate Whelan

well I don't think so cause she said who told you and he said I seen shedeleted her he didn't reply anything like Tonya did what is she talking about

1:14am

Amanda Whosoever

1:14am

Evelyn Kate Whelan

so I think he found out some other way

maybe he seen you guys weren't mutual friends any more or something

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1:14am

Amanda Whosoever

.....

This girl is a straight up shit disturber and a liar

Maybe cause he saw statuses he shouldn't have?

Or that were intentionally put out there

And doesn't want to say anything

1:15amEvelyn Kate Whelan

I don't know I could ask but then he would DEFF know

1:16am

Amanda Whosoever

...... I'm pissed

1:16am

Evelyn Kate Whelan

sorry

I should just drop it but it bothers me too

1:23am

Evelyn Kate Whelan

Tim is hearing an earful tonight poor Tim LOL, I love him dearly he's a verygood friend and so when I need to vent guess who gets it?

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lol

1:54am

Amanda Whosoever

Lol at least he's informed and not wondering what is going on. Lol

I gotta go to bed before I paSs out on ya

Talk tomorrow Eve sleep sweet

I almost did pass out

1:55amEvelyn Kate Whelan

lol I'm getting really tired too good night

August 15

4:17pm

Amanda WhosoeverOk so I emailed Jerrae...

And I kept it vague.

She kept names out of it, but let me know she is catching on to what I'msaying and has decided to observe as well.

Jerrae knew about what I went through the last time...

And the division that is being caused currently.

So pray all is revealed in time

Just stay on our toes and alert and in prayer for tonya that she may detachfrom religion

4:18pm

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Man I'm so worried bout my electric bill, it's due to get shut off the 20th Istart online classes the 21st, I've tried churches, LIHEAP program, and evenneighborhood places no help my mom just spent 900 on her car not sure

what to do keep me in your prayersI will def pray for her

4:19pm

Amanda Whosoever

I will definitely keep you in my prayers sis if anyone knows about sudden jumps in utility bills its me

4:19pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

I'm so pissed about it I called my electric company complaining it's thehighest it's ever been they tried acting as if it's normal

4:20pm

Amanda Whosoever

What's it normally?

4:20pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

around 160 it was 250 this time and the coming up bill is around the same it'sa brown bill meaning it's over due

so I already have my view of the next

it's bullshit

this place is getting to expensive to live in

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One more year and I'm looking for another place

4:21pm

Amanda Whosoever

Holy crap

That's JUST electric?

4:22pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

I know, I'm also on section 8 in a really nice home well last year it only costme 57$ for rent this year it's 137

how crazy is that

yes just the electric

everything is doubling

I can't afford it

the electric company told me that my electric bill will go down in the fall and

winter months they said July and Aug were my highest months which is weirdyou would think it would be winter i'm wondering if I need an air conditionercheck

4:24pm

Amanda Whosoever

Frig sakes man....that's crazy

Our electric is about 90.00 a month, and every other month water comes inat about 160.00 so the bill is together every 2 months...

Plus gas/heat is about 150 a month. Bills are sickening

4:25pm

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Evelyn Kate Whelan

I know I hate the bills here

I'm on assistance and it's still too much for me

4:27pm

Amanda Whosoever

We're on Disability... If we weren't we'd be so screwed welfare is bullsh*tnever giving you enough to live on.

4:29pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

yep they also try to keep you in pov by taken just about everything if noteverything if you get a job

4:31pm

Amanda Whosoever

Even when my husband worked 3 jobs it was ridiculous... No one can ever getahead

4:35pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

I know it's ridiculous

I'm surviving off Zac my autistic son's SSI check and student finacial aid/loans

I don't want to complain too much cause to be honest without section 8 andfood stamps I don't know where I would be BUT geez they should be trying tohelp ppl get off the system not keep them down in it

5:51pm

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Jerrae responded to my comment

You seeing it to;)....its unfortunate...but a part of social networking....ratheron the internet or in the work place...you name it....some never grow out of high school.....much love to you sis

did she respond to your email?

5:53pm

Amanda Whosoever

Yes she did a pretty chunky email too.

5:54pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

was it positive?

5:56pm

Amanda Whosoever

Yes she was actually letting me know she suspected what I spoke of, and shesaid she's on guard. She knows what I'm talkin about even with me beingvague.

5:56pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

that's good

maybe she was actually directing that vid at Tonya lol Tonya just didn't get it

6:00pm

Amanda Whosoever

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That's what I was thinkin too.... Especially with the copy pasting thing

6:00pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

yeah

6:00pm

Amanda Whosoever

She even brought up the bible thing in her email one second ill copy pastewhat she said and u tell me if she's leading me to know she knows its tonya

6:01pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

ok

from what I've seen so far I like Jerrae I think she has a good heart

6:03pm

Amanda Whosoever

This is part of it : (she was talkin about a brother both her and I speak towho's really a deep spiritual person)

he is not bashing the bible....

he is just bashing the bible people who bash others over the head withit...and he reminded me of something.......

my ancestors....the Native Americans.....believed and knew in the

Creator......why would they have doomed to death by not having a

bible....when they lived in harmony with Gods creation.....so when folks saywe must believe in the words of the bible to be saved ....then what does thatmean for many who have died without ever even seeing a bible....and I

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always wondered that as well......and that I can get.......I believe we arefortunate to have the word....

especially in this time we live in...we need it

6:04pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

that's great!!

I'm glad she's thinking of her ancestors native americans are a good exampleof those who are saved without religion

6:05pm

Amanda Whosoever

If you notice her answer to tonya was very short...

6:05pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

you mean in her comments?

6:05pm

Amanda Whosoever

In her video comments (is what I meant)

Yep lol

Everyone else's is pretty chunky... Yours was a one sentence response and she gave you a decent response.

Tonya got "none of that going on here...love ya"

She said someone went back to Jeanette after she made that video and said"you didn't tell her what I said did you?"

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I wonder if tonya has been caught talkin shite?

6:09pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

wow

6:09pm

Amanda Whosoever

Ugh will she never learn?

6:09pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

when she burns all bridges she will

It wasn't smart of her to go to Jeanette if it was her

Jeanette and Jerrae are close

what did she think she could get in between that

6:10pm

Amanda Whosoever

People will eventually throw her to the vultures and expose her as a gossiperand not to be trusted.

That's what I thought too! Even I know better than that

Doesn't take a genius to figure out how close they are....

6:11pm

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the others day you said you noticed when she started to change I have aquestion did you notice any new friends at that time and/or did she startzantax at that time?

I don't trust medications and the mood altering ones is the ones I suspect the

most

6:13pm

Amanda Whosoever

Idk if she started meds she hasn't told me that and as for new friends therehasn't been really any new friends except her involving her mom in everysingle thing she does....

6:13pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

well that's prob it

her mom is funny but I can see her mom as being a gossip as well

hope i'm not falsely accusing

6:14pm

Amanda Whosoever

No her mom is definitely a gossip

Ever since she had ben and had her mom stay with her that's when ourfriendship went down the shitter

6:15pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

You know that hangout we did with Michael the universalist? I seen that Jerraeshared one of his links so I wrote her and told her that I agreed with a lot of what he said but that many misunderstand him due to religious fear, sheagreed and said she will never take part in a close-minded hangout again

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Amanda Whosoever

To me family is very important but mine is very disfunctional.

I guess that's what makes me part of the mentally unstable nutjob label.

I'm tellin ya Eve she wasn't just talkin about you in that status.

I sure aint stupid.

6:23pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

Well, you know I sometimes get that way. Tonya was telling me she was sotired of the drama on youtube and ppl always talking about love yada yada I

didn't say "fuck em" but I did tell her that she has got to stop worrying abouteveryone else and concentrate on herself. Don't get me wrong I don't believein being selfish but at the same time I believe if you don't love yourself youcan't love others.

6:24pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

I have to exclude myself from some ppl for the benefit of myself I hope thatdon't sound bad, I mean I would never mistreat them or ignore them but asfar as drawing them close that's not gonna happen, Tonya is one of those pplnow

6:27pm

Amanda Whosoever

I did a video on that Eve!

About Loving yourself before you can love others.

6:28pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

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that's good, religion tells you to hate yourself if you don't then it's ego thenyour making yourself a god blah blah blah I HATE RELIGION

6:28pm

Amanda Whosoever

And what Is God? He's Love....

She's sick of love?

I think that's when she let a religious angry spirit invade her mind...

Ouch man... Ouch...

And that's what I mean right now I feel like saying

"I love you tonya but we can't be friends anymore there is zero trust"

She can't be regular friends "like fb friends" she wants to be clingy stalkerfriends....

6:30pm

Amanda Whosoever

Honestly Love is so powerful and people say "love allows sin"Bullshit!

Idk about you Eve but for real if our kids do something that will harm themwell is it loving for us to sit back & let it happen.

True love defend protects & disciplines....

But not what religion teaches which is God beats the snot outta His kids....

6:31pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

when she told me she was sick of all the love talk I assumed she was talkingabout ppl encouraging her not to speak her mind to be lovey dovey when shehas a differing open and in that case I would agree with her we should allspeak our mind, BUT now that I've been through what I have with her I do

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think it's more of an angry spirit

6:34pm

Amanda Whosoever

I agree that's what change I have seen...

6:40pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

I think my mom and sister think I'm going crazy

8:00pm

Amanda Whosoever

Sorry I disappeared my dad was on the phone

8:06pm

Evelyn Kate Whelanno prob

8:10pm

Amanda Whosoever

Most of my family think I have lost my mind lmao

The only one who doesn't is my dad

8:13pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

well I think my mom and sister are more like getting worried about me their

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11:03pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

hmm she must be covering her tracks

11:03pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqGndHrrM8I

To: Live4truth2012 ♥

www.youtube.comI would like to talk to you more about this. if you have skype, please add me, iam galaxydreams10 on there. thanks for listening :D

11:07pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

and she said "just so everybody knows" after saying it lol

yep she's covering her ass

she needs to just be honest with herself

11:12pm

Amanda Whosoever

That's my friend Rebeccah!!!!!! And she is pissed right now!!!!!

11:12pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

OMG what's going on?

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she trying to connect with your friends?

11:12pm

Amanda Whosoever

She is pissed!!!!!!!!!! And I mean pissed

Rebeccah is Live4Truth2012!

11:13pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

man I really want to tell Tim that it's you so he sees the whole scope but Iwon't

11:13pm

Amanda Whosoever

She just msg'd me and asked me why is she doing this publicly to her? Shecould have asked her this stuff privately.

She had a bad feeling about tonya right from the get go

Tell him!

11:14pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

cause she's trying to cover her ass is why

okthanks

11:14pm

Amanda Whosoever

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I really don't give a shat anymore I'm deleting tonya after watching thisstupid video she made without going in private to Rebeccah! That's biblical!

Private first THEN public!

11:17pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

Here's the thing I understand inconsistancy when growing but she just madea vid DAYS ago after dropping me about one of her baragain breakers beingthose who deny scripture is the word of God then she says diff in this vid?

11:18pm

Amanda Whosoever

Someone should call her out on her bullshit

11:18pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

lol not me

11:19pm

Amanda Whosoever

I'm gonna watch this (she did this wrong biblically speaking Eve)

She is to take it privately first....then publicly!

she did this because I'm responding to Rebeccah and now she's being

spiteful.... I know why she's doing this!

11:20pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

well she is also covering her ass Amanda she said I don't believe you have to

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that vision already is true

it's just manifesting more

She tries catching ppl in stuff she can pin against them that is what I felt likewhen talking to her in pm

last

11:33pm

Amanda Whosoever

........ i am........ PIST

11:33pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

I believe Christ IS the Word I believe scripture is INSPIRED by God to be awitness OF the Word/Jesus

that is why I can't say someone isn't saved because they don't believe thescripture is the word of God

11:33pm

Amanda Whosoever

I feel like its my fault my friend is being attacked.

11:33pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

why?

11:33pm

Amanda Whosoever

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i feel like asking her WHAT she is doing

11:33pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

it's not your fault

11:34pm

Amanda Whosoever

and why she didnt take that privately

11:34pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

who Tonya?

11:34pm

Amanda Whosoeverthat's messed up

11:34pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

well this is what she wants

to get you to talk

to her

11:34pm

Amanda Whosoever

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im boiling with righteous indignation

like this is crazy to see her do this and KNOW because Father showed theother end of the computer

the end we don't see

my stomach is sick from it

it was not good eve

11:35pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

don't let her stress you out Amanda

it's okay to talk about it and not agree with what she is doing but when youlet it get to you your doing YOURSELF wrong

11:36pm

Amanda Whosoever

i just feel like wow God our Father showed me something

its blowing my mindlol

i don't have visions n stuff

lol

11:37pm

Evelyn Kate WhelanI understand what's sad is if it weren't for the dreams I myself had whendealing with SOTC I wouldn't believe you

God put us in one anothers paths SEE something good came out of usbefriending Tonya LOL

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11:38pm

Amanda Whosoever

i feel odd about removing her do you know what will happen

she will trash talk me, then make videos about me, bash all of my friends andthen turn around and email me text me phone me...

its crazy behavior

she'll claim she's WORRIED about me like i am mentally sick or something isense that

11:44pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

Amanda, you might have to cut all ties with her

if she is going to keep you down

11:52pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

not telling you what to do you are your own person but I know I became lessstressed when I had no contact with SOTC

11:55pm

Amanda Whosoever

man she's being such a BITCH in this video

holy crap man

12:07am

Amanda Whosoever

eve

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12:07am

Evelyn Kate Whelan

sorry Jer has his paltalk room open

was in there talking to a crossdressing OMG I and Him are going to burn

12:08am

Amanda Whosoever

at the end she says "everyone be RESPECTFUL" (check out my channeldescription)

this is some sickness

i dont know

12:14am

Evelyn Kate Whelan

Amanda she is crawling under your skin exactly what she wants to do

12:17am

Amanda Whosoever

Jerrae called Rebeccah she's pissed

this is not good for her

not good at all

she's crawling under a rock

12:19am

Evelyn Kate Whelan

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good

she needs too til she realizes what she's doing

she has no concept of true freedom

12:19am

Amanda Whosoever

ouch man

Jerrae is going to sting like a yellow jacket hornet

She don't put up with this bullshit

12:21am

Evelyn Kate Whelan

well Jerrae is what we need I was actually going to say that earlier that astrong older woman of the faith needs to confront her she'll have no respectfor someone like us

12:22am

Amanda Whosoever

this is going to be interesting...

im waiting for it to pop

lol

12:22amEvelyn Kate Whelan

yes you have to keep me updated

I really want to know what's up

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12:22am

Amanda Whosoever

lol

i will

man....i told jeanette today

and jeanette is close with jerrae and rebeccah

so now jeanette will know I wasnt kidding

i warned her to be weary...and sure enough

12:25amEvelyn Kate Whelan

man look at her comment

sister I am in zero way judging you and I am not sure why you think I am? Isaid that the new age type words got my attention. Anyway, I just wanted tostart a conversation with you about this because its something I would really

like to talk to you more about

her comment is not even lovingit's got an attitude in it

12:26am

Amanda Whosoever

this is ridiculous

12:26am

Evelyn Kate Whelan

it is

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12:26am

Amanda Whosoever

oh man

Jerrae is gonna rip her a new butthole

lmao!

12:26am

Evelyn Kate Whelan

well I hope they acknowledge not only what she is doing at this moment butwhat she's done this past week to me and Tim and what she's done to you

12:26am

Amanda Whosoever

i can feel it

she is out to hurt alot of people

she is NOT who she claims to be

12:27am

Evelyn Kate Whelan

she don't see that we are more united then she thinks, I barely know Jerraeand the others but would NEVER treat them like shit

LOVE conquers many things

12:28am

Amanda Whosoever

i told rebeccah i sense a thick evil and i cant describe it her eyes are sodark...

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We must PRAY for her

all of us

in Love because these words are painful to me and all who listen to it who areconnected to love

to Father's spirit

this really hurts to listen to

i cant even imagine how rebeccah feels

12:33am

Evelyn Kate Whelan

I understand, you know amanda it may really have something to do with thatmedication and I'm sure her mother situation didn't help

postpardem is a possibility as well

pray is def needed

OR it could just be religion

12:34amAmanda Whosoever

thats what i thought too post partum depression added with all that stuff

12:34am

Evelyn Kate Whelan

she may be at the point where God is really pushing her to come out and sheis fearful or holding back

12:37am

Amanda Whosoever

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read jerrae's comments

12:37am

Evelyn Kate Whelan

fear will push ppl back into religion it will keep them bound

12:37am

Amanda Whosoever

and tonya's last comment to live4truth2012 she says I WANT to get to knowmore...

12:40am

Evelyn Kate Whelan

can I comment on her channel?

or can they block from commenting?

12:44am

Amanda Whosoever

who's channel

12:44am

Evelyn Kate Whelan

I can't I just tried

12:44am

Amanda Whosoever

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who's

tonya's

12:46am

Evelyn Kate Whelan

yes

12:47am

Evelyn Kate Whelan

I just messaged Jerrae on here this is what I said>>>Can't reply to yourcomment on Tonya's vid cause i'm blocked but I still want you to see it

Your right Jerrae to claim the bible is the Word of God is taking that title from Jesus Christ Himself, Jesus is the Word the scripture was inspired to testify of the Word/Jesus. Those who never heard it pass away with no chance of eternal life? I don't think I PERSONALLY believe Jesus reveals His Spirit tothose ppl through LOVE, now others can condemn me or not for that I stillhold to it.

12:48am

Amanda Whosoever

WOW

and tonya already had you blocked?

12:51am

Evelyn Kate Whelan

I pretty sure she blocked me the other day when she first deleted me on here

12:53am

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Amanda Whosoever

absolutely immature

12:53am

Evelyn Kate Whelan

i'm too heretical for her

12:57am

Evelyn Kate Whelan

look how contradicting her comment is....is Sally a sister or not?>>I am notone to question peoples salvation. If people claim to believe Jesus, then Ihave to and do take them at their word, like 99% of the time. I took Sally onher's and maybe she is a sister, but the fact that she removed from heryoutube page that Jesus is the Christ AFTER i made that video... confirms forme that she is indeed NOT our sister in Christ. we are told to test the spirits

and i did that. I know Rebecca is our sister. Praise God You are lucky to know

her so well!

12:58am

Evelyn Kate Whelan

that comment is so full of contradiction it's unreal

does she or not question ppl's salvation? is Sally a sis or not?

why is Sally not a sis because she removed you?

does that mean to ME tonya isn't a sis for removing me?

hypocracy

I freakin hate it

1:10am

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Evelyn Kate Whelan

sorry I should stop concerning myself with it all

1:12am

Amanda Whosoever

I'm still trying to process her intent for this

1:13am

Evelyn Kate Whelan

I'm sure it's not a good one

1:13am

Amanda Whosoever

Why was sally brought up?

1:13amEvelyn Kate Whelan

to try and convince Jerrae that it's possible Live4truth20 isn't a sister like sheclaims to be

that would be my guess

or maybe she is feeling guilty

idk

There are many possibilities I don't see any of them with good intentions tho

If she wanted to actually be open minded she should have started byapologizing to both me and you

and Tim

so I don't think it's a guilt thing

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she's been playing like she is open then she shuts ppl down

reminds me of the pharisees that were always questioning Jesus about thelaw trying to trap Him in their religious dogma

1:19am

Amanda Whosoever

She's still on my friends list she doesn't think she has done anything wrongnor has she posted anything.

The minute I remove her it will be all hell around here...her emailin me,texting, calling fbing... And then she'll go in for some way to expose... I feel it

1:20am

Evelyn Kate Whelan

you done gave her your heart/thoughts I'm sure she will try and use themAmanda it seems to be what she's doing

you tell her anything that differs from her belief and do something thatangers her she will use it against you

sad but seems to be the case

soon you will be deemed heretical as well

sorry that's a RELIGIOUS spirit

1:22am

Amanda Whosoever

She won't accept them.

Hear her double talk saying "word of God word of God" and then idk Eve itwas awful...

She's trying to convince Jerrae she has good intent...

But she does not.

And Jerrae can read people very well & I warned Jerrae, Jeanette & Rebeccah

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today... So then she does this uncalled for? And then does it publicly....that'snot right

1:23am

Amanda Whosoever

She won't accept "my beliefs" she'll think I'm being "influenced"

And she doesn't get I've been led to this.

That's why she's sayin what she is in this video to rebeccah, did you feel thisway before you started listening to oneofonez......

She doesn't get being truly spirit led

1:24am

Evelyn Kate Whelan

I know

she don't have to adopt other's beliefs to accept them in love

1:26am

Amanda Whosoever

The fake laughter bugs me...her face changes so much. And she has mademe videos personally & sent them to me.

I know her attitude...

When she's pissed off and being strange

1:27am

Evelyn Kate Whelan

what she being like in the vid? mischievious

?

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She's trying to "expose" Rebeccah without exposing her

bluntly

or obviously

11:37am

Amanda Whosoever

Exactly....

12:17pm

Amanda WhosoeverOooo tonya messaged me I haven't opened it all I can see is the first portion.

"A WEEK is about as patient as I can be, especially when I have no fuckingclue what the problem is..."

That's all I can see

12:20pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

If she doesn't see that you've seen them why is she making threats wouldn'tshe just assume you have yet to see them?

it's threats to get you to answer

12:24pm

Amanda Whosoever Yep and she wants me to block her remove her or view the message so shecan see the "seen @ such and such a time" lol

She's not well mentally eve...

I shouldn't laugh but this behavior is not normal.

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She said she's sick of mentally unstable nutjobs well...she needs a mirror.

Jerrae removed the video supporting tonya

12:38pm

Amanda Whosoever

just sayin

1:16pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

I know Jerrae told me, I wrote her last night that comment she replied backthis morning and then I wrote her and told her why I disagreed with Tonyathat I wanted her to here my side AND that I was hurt by Tonya when sheposted my private messages

1:26pm

Amanda Whosoever

*well that's what I told Jerrae too, I told her you're a nice person and just forexpressing a difference in opinion (yet honest one) and not agreeing withtonya fully, look at how she treated you*

We must see repeated behavior.

I kid u not Eve tonya can't see jack on my fb.

She can see my public cover pics & mutual friends.

But her mutual friends can't even see my feed except Jerrae and Jeanette.Lol.

I aint playin....

Donna Rose has changed BIG time she used to be on level playing field. Now Isee a one sided point of view.

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Amanda Whosoever

I up talked you big time to Jerrae and said Tonya was VERY unfair to you andquite frankly immature

1:33pm

Amanda Whosoever

It wasn't that I brought you in for any specific reason but she brought up copyand pasting and that's when I said look what she did to Eve, and now Iwonder because I agree with Eve will tonya see me as a heretic andwhatever? That's the way the convo went

Its repeated behavior and others need to see its not unusual for her to do

this....if she is willing to do it twice in a week...well...we all know what Alexsaid "you told me to block her" hmmmm

1:44pm

Amanda Whosoever

Hope your not mad I brought you up.

I just know in my spirit tonya ran u into the ground and who knows how many

people to.

1:51pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

I don't mind I'm actually thankful you stood up for me, I have to run someerrands bbl

1:55pm

Amanda Whosoever

Ok phew I was like I hope you didn't think I was gossiping.

Cause I'm trying to show Jerrae that its nothing new at this point.

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Have a good day Eve

1:56pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

not at all it took me a long time to respond cause I was cleaning a lil bit andgetting ready, I don't think it's gossip to share concern or even hurt, it'sgossip when it's slander/lies, or misrepresentations to be an ass

ok bbl

1:57pm

Amanda Whosoever

Agreed lol.

Just like Jerrae said in her video.

Its not gossip when a friend is sharing a genuine concern for something thatmight do harm.

Kk

4:09pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

Tonya wants to talk to me know

made me a private vid

4:13pm

Amanda Whosoever

Um.... Be VERY careful....

4:13pm

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Evelyn Kate Whelan

I'm not sure I even want to respons

respond

4:13pm

Amanda Whosoever

VERY....she's suffering from narcassism *spell check*

You do not HAVE to respond and you know it

Can u send me the link? Lol I'll help you discern this

If not that's ok

4:16pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

Either someone confronted her or she caught on to everyone else catching onthat is the ONLY reason she is trying to speak to me

she's still blaming me and trying to make me feel bad

OOP SHE JUST LIED

she unfriended me when I wrote her about about the video and medisagreeing NOT after I told anyone it was cause of preterism

she must lie so much she fools herself

4:18pm

Amanda WhosoeverLMAO!

She does lie a lot Eve...

4:19pm

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Evelyn Kate Whelan

If I give it to you it will show up on the views tho won't it?

I think she might try to use it against me

I might make a response vid

telling her I don't buy into her bullshit

4:19pm

Amanda Whosoever

She's upset because no one in the clique she was trying to form is goingalong with it anymore & see what she's up to.

Look up Narcassism... I tell ya the traits are brutally similar

You can always say you refreshed the page or rewatched it. She distributedmy video to others and tried saying she didn't.

4:20pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

Oh she mentioned youlol

4:21pm

Amanda Whosoever

Even when she views it it counts as a view.

The video she gave me privately had 27 views on it...

4:21pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

she's the one that ruined the trust not me

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yet she is putting it on me

4:21pm

Amanda Whosoever

I view the vid 4 times. So who watched it?

4:22pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebDBRwsg0LQ

To Eve only

www.youtube.com

4:22pm

Amanda Whosoever

Classic manipulation & blame game.She's not making me videos....so she's done with me & thinking you're weakenough to be sucked back in.

She tried to switch shit around on me like that too.

4:22pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

she does look like she's been crying, why cause she's been caught?

I don't put up with stupid drama like this, I feel like making a response vidand calling her out on everything she said in this vid

4:28pm

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Amanda Whosoever

I have to stop....if she doesn't have many friends why did she HIDE herfriends, I see new ppl on her fb every day!

She's trying to back track & suck u in....

She'll get u back on fb and then grill you.

Always blamin her PMS too lmao!!!!

She has so not been crying... She doesn't feel bad.

She is worried about her "image"

Ooooooo....

4:31pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

if she was crying I assume it's cause she's busted anyway

not for anything good

4:31pm

Amanda Whosoever

She is sneaky man.

Why wouldn't she make me a video (if we are "soul sisters")

Why is she trying to make peace with you.

I've got 4 mins left of her vid I'm on my phone so I'm jumpin back n forth

Oh wow... Just wow

She did the same fuckin thing to me Eve...

She dumps it all on you & wow at what she said about Tim.

4:38pm

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Evelyn Kate Whelan

well I guess she doesn't realize that I went through 9 1/2 yrs in an abusiverelationship I know how the guilt trip shit works I know exactly what she isdoing and see right through it, she LIES in this vid more then once

4:38pm

Amanda Whosoever

See how she's willing to dump me and move onto the next person that iswilling to give her attention.

What it is is the people she dumped you for, aren't talkin to her, she nowneeds someone to gossip to, and she will grill you and make you feel like you

owe her....its all headgames.

4:39pm

Amanda Whosoever

She found out by WHOM it was Tim? She didn't find out shit.

Cause it was me not Tim.

That's another lie I heard lol

Man my face is all hot. If she hasn't removed me I really want to remove herat the moment.

4:40pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

and she knows it I'm wondering if she made this so I'd respond so not sure Iwant to but man I have such a desire to do a response vid and call her out onher bullshit

4:42pm

Amanda Whosoever

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Sorry she took you for gullible and I know you're not.

You said u guys weren't that close, then she says you guys were, then shethrows "I love you you're my girl" with the first sign of emotion.

Dammit...

She had to throw me in there for what?

The second fight was her being a total jackass.

And then I said I needed time to figure shit out, she went all crazy callinemailin n shit then she told me when I finally responded that she neededtime.

Then she emailed me a few days later saying "I'm willing to start over again"and I didn't respond right away and she sent me .......... As a message and

kind of got all bitchy.

4:43pm

Amanda Whosoever

She's trying to find out who ratted her off.

So if you say "it wasn't Tim" she'll say AHA its Amanda then.

I know what's up. Lol

4:44pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

yeah I figured that as well

there's a couple things she's doing here, she thinks she's good atmanipulation and perhaps she would be if I hadn't been in an abusiverelationship for so long that I know how this game works

4:47pm

Amanda Whosoever

I've had run ins with abusive manipulators as well.

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Experience with it sure does help lol that's forsure.

Praise GOD you got out of that relationship!

4:50pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

I'll prob make a response vid but not sure if I will actually send it I really justneed to feel better by feeling like I told her off lol, I'll show it to you and getyour opinion

4:53pm

Amanda Whosoever

Kk get it outta your system I do that alot

4:54pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

Oh now i"m not blocked from her page lol

5:03pm

Amanda Whosoever

Ofcourse not lol

5:04pm

Evelyn Kate Whelanshe has a post that says I'm not Bipolar I'm Multipolar That's when I cry andlaugh as I beat the shit out of you....who the hell does she think she'sthreatening? lol that girl don't know me very well

5:05pm

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Amanda Whosoever

LOL!!!!!!!!!! XD

She wants u to freak and me to freak so she can record the video or "steal itaka make copies" and then label us nutjobs for real.

5:06pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

I strike with calmness

lol

which is actually more scary

school girl drama

5:09pm

Amanda Whosoever

Wow man Rebeccah just responded to me

I messaged her letting her know we have to pray for tonya because she is

narcassistic...She is blown away Father just had her research Narcassism the other day fora few hours to understand those who have it. and how its affecting ourbrother's and sister's from being unblinded

5:10pm

Amanda Whosoever

Our Father is AWESOME!!!!

5:11pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

Did she experience that kind of behavior prior to the meds she's on now tho

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Amanda Whosoever

Paranoid Personality Disorder

What is Paranoid Personality Disorder?

Quick Summary:

Paranoid personality disorder is characterized by a distrust of others and aconstant suspicion that people around you have sinister motives. People withthis disorder tend to have excessive trust in their own knowledge and abilitiesand usually avoid close relationships. They search for hidden meanings ineverything and read hostile intentions into the actions of others. They arequick to challenge the loyalties of friends and loved ones and often appearcold and distant. They usually shift blame to other people and tend to carrylong grudges.

Symptoms of Paranoid Personality Disorder:

Unwillingness to forgive perceived insults

Excessive sensitivity to setbacks

Distrustfulness and excessive self-reliance

Projection of blame onto others

Consumed by anticipation of betrayal

Combative and tenacious adherence to personal rightsRelentlessly suspicious

Antisocial Personality Disorder

What is Antisocial Personality Disorder?

Quick Summary:

A common misconception is that antisocial personality disorder refers topeople who have poor social skills. The opposite is often the case. Instead,

antisocial personality disorder is characterized by a lack of conscience.People with this disorder are prone to criminal behavior, believing that theirvictims are weak and deserving of being taken advantage of. Antisocials tendto lie and steal. Often, they are careless with money and take action withoutthinking about consequences. They are often agressive and are much moreconcerned with their own needs than the needs of others.

Symptoms of Antisocial Personality Disorder:

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Disregard for the feelings of others

Impulsive and irresponsible decision-making

Lack of remorse for harm done to others

Lying, stealing, other criminal behaviors

Disregard for the safety of self and others

Histrionic Personality Disorder

What is Histrionic Personality Disorder?

Quick Summary:

People with histrionic personality disorder are constant attention seekers. They need to be the center of attention all the time, often interrupting others

in order to dominate the conversation. They use grandiose language todiscribe everyday events and seek constant praise. They may dressprovacatively or exaggerate illnesses in order to gain attention. Histrionicsalso tend to exaggerate friendships and relationships, believing thateveryone loves them. They are often manipulative.

Symptoms of Histrionic Personality Disorder:

Needs to be the center of attention

Dresses or acts provocatively

Rapidly-shifting and shallow emotions

Exaggerates friendships

Overly-dramatic, occassionally theatrical speech

easily influenced; highly suggestible

Narcissistic Personality Disorder

What is Narcissistic Personality Disorder?

Quick Summary:

Narcissistic personality disorder is characterized by self-centeredness. Likehistrionic disorder, people with this disorder seek attention and praise. Theyexaggerate their achievements, expecting others to recongize them as beingsuperior. They tend to be choosy about picking friends, since they believethat not just anyone is worthy of being their friend. Narcissists tend to makegood first impressions, yet have difficulty maintaining long-lasting

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relationships. They are generally uninterested in the feelings of others andmay take advantage of them.

Symptoms of Narcissistic Personality Disorder:

Requires excessive praise and admiration

Takes advantage of others

Grandiose sense of self-importance

Lack of empathy

Lying, to self and others

Obsessed with fantasies of fame, power, or beauty

5:21pm

Amanda Whosoever

Was it April 2nd I think

But this started when she was breastfeeding still...

I think its not the meds.

5:22pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

well she's been on the tube for years maybe it has something to do withhormones

OR maybe her true colors are finally coming to the surface but you wouldthink they would've a long time ago

5:25pm

Amanda Whosoever

Idk what's going on but the last channel she had she freaked out and closedit....

And it was similar to what's happening now.

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5:25pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

oh

wow

5:25pm

Amanda Whosoever

If I disappear its because I'm writing out that stuff I sent you & listening toher video

5:26pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

I'm gonna do my vid after listening to this one

5:42pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

nah I'm not gonna do a vid it will only tempt me to send it to her

lol

5:43pm

Amanda Whosoever

LOL! I'm gonna make a video before my mental disorders on how I feel aboutthe bible. Let me blow her mind away

Then maybe she will understand whyy I stopped talkin to her when she madeher list of 5 things

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5:44pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

scripture is the inspired testimony of the Savior JESUS IS THE WORD

the scripture is the witness of the Word/Jesus

she didn't even notice that tho Amanda, she don't even recognize it she's justtrying to fit in with the crowd she screwed over

She kept saying the scripture is the word of God but it's really not LOL canyou please explain to me how? but she can't cause she doesn't see how it'snot

it was INSPIRIED by the Holy Spirit but it was written and translated by men itis also merely (but not unimportantly) the WITNESS of the Word

a book can NOT contain Jesus it is only the story from the ppl of Israel, Goddid not just reveal Himself to Israel yet He HAD to choose a ppl to workthrough to manifest the redemption plan

sorry just giving my opinion lol

5:56pm

Amanda Whosoever

LOL AMEN sis she's all over the place.

And my video is gonna lose me some subscribers....

I have my views on the bible.

And there is a lot that makes me go well where's the rest????

Like from Jesus' 13 years - 30 years.... Where is the rest?

And yes it is the Witness of Jesus amen I agree there

5:59pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

the lost years ah yes well you know I haven't researched it to verify if it weretrue but I've heard that he visited the Alexandrian Library and also the orients

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hmmmm....yoga

6:00pm

Amanda Whosoever

Lol yoga

6:00pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

why does mankind only use part of our brain and if we could use all could wewalk on water? lol don't get me wrong some ppl who are into those believesonly see Jesus as a mere man here to show us the way instead of being theway, I disagree about the mere man and only showing us the way Him notreally being it, however I don't agree with much of the rest

6:01pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

I mean I do agree with much of the rest

of that kind of thinking

I also believe religion is what is holding us back from true spiritual fulfillmentand that includes the christian religion

6:11pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

Hey you didn't share Tonya's personal vid did you cause I want to click on itagain and see how many views, she's prob sent it to ppl and been like do youthink this is a good enough apology LOL

6:14pm

Amanda Whosoever

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No I didn't why? How many views are there?

6:14pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

haven't looked yet just wanted to make sure before I do

I've only shared it with you

ok there is only two so that's good

6:17pm

Amanda Whosoever Then you're ok lol

I'm trying to discern if she's being truthful in this video....

Or if she's just trying to fit in....

6:20pm

Evelyn Kate WhelanIn her last public vid?

6:20pm

Amanda Whosoever

My video if I upload it will lose me atleast 100 subs...

Yes

6:21pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

I do think that I've had some influence in sparking her to question some

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I don't wanna be messaging her and have her turn around stuff I say etc.

6:24pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

I think she is still stuck in religion but that she sees many others following theSpirit

6:24pm

Amanda Whosoever

That's gotta get her wondering why do these people seem so strong andunafraid...

6:24pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

she is seeing that many are breaking out of the box

yes

but the thing is at least it was for me is that it's fearful at first to break thatbox but Jesus brought me to a place where instead of running from fear I takeHis hand and walk with Him through it

6:27pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

alot of things were fearful to me when I first noticed some truth in fulfilledeschatology I was scared I was gonna go new agey guess what I DID!! LOL Iwas also wondering if I would become a universalist and now i'm questioningit LOL, even if I'm wrong I'm glad i've reached a place where i can face myfears with Christ beside me

6:28pm

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Evelyn Kate Whelan

I can now explore instead of ignore

6:29pm

Amanda Whosoever

The Lord has us, our walk is WITH Him.

Regardless to where we end up in our understanding Through Him.

Amen!

6:35pmAmanda Whosoever

I feel like commenting on her video "are you stepping out of the box?" LOLnooo I won't that's mean

6:35pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

not only that but you will open up the lines of communication

lol if that is something your trying to avoid I wouldn't recommend it lol

6:36pm

Amanda Whosoever

LOL that's the first thing that came to mind XD

6:41pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

your vid up yet?

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6:45pm

Amanda Whosoever

No I haven't decided to upload it yet lol

6:46pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

oh ok

6:47pm

Amanda Whosoever

I'm a chicken rotfl

Hey what do you think about this...

It came outta me today.

We believe in Eternal security right...

So this phrase keeps coming to me"Narrow is the way wide is the path to destruction"

So narrow means go against the grain, not in the way of others....

And wide is the path to self destruction religion chaos confusion....

What say you about that understanding?

6:53pm

Evelyn Kate Whelan

that's good

6:54pm

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Amanda Whosoever

I think I'm gonna call my video "thinking outside of the box" and redo it withthe understanding He just gave me

Either that or "What If"