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AMERICA‟S FINAL WAKEUP CALL MYSTERIES OF THE GREAT SEAL REVEALED By Harvey Troyer, Emmaus Road Ministries, July 2009 THE GREAT SEAL MDC CLX XVI M = 1000, D = 500, C = 100, L = 50, X = 10, V = 5, I = 1 THE TOTAL VALUE OF MDCCLXXVI IN LATIN ROMAN NUMERALS IS 1776

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  • AMERICA‟S FINAL WAKEUP CALL

    MYSTERIES OF THE GREAT SEAL REVEALED

    By Harvey Troyer, Emmaus Road Ministries, July 2009

    THE GREAT SEAL

    MDC CLX XVI

    M = 1000, D = 500, C = 100, L = 50, X = 10, V = 5, I = 1

    THE TOTAL VALUE OF MDCCLXXVI IN LATIN ROMAN

    NUMERALS IS 1776

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    A SPECIAL NEWS AND PROPHECY BULLETIN—THE MARK OF THE BEAST (666) IS ALMOST HERE (READ REVELATION CHAP 13:16-18)

    THE GREAT SEAL

    M------ C------ x--- = 1110

    D ------------- C L -------------- X V ------------ I 500 100 50 10 5 1 (600)--- (60)--- (6)------- = 666 (SIX HUNDRED)--- (THREE SCORE)--- (AND SIX)--- = 666

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    NOW I WILL SHOW YOU HOW 666 OR SIX HUNDRED (600), THREE SCORE (60), AND SIX (6) IS EMBEDDED IN THE GREAT SEAL RIGHT ON OUR ONE DOLLAR BILLS! FIRST, PUT MDC AROUND THE 3 POINTS OF THE FIRST PYRAMID; SECOND, PUT CLX AROUND THE 3 POINTS OF THE SECOND PYRAMID; THIRD, PUT XVI AROUND THE 3 POINTS OF THE THIRD PYRAMID. PLACE EACH SET OF 3 ROMAN NUMERAL CHARACTERS COUNTER-CLOCKWISE AROUND EACH PYRAMID, STARTING FROM THE TOP FOR EACH PYRAMID. FINALLY, ADD THE TWO CHARACTERS AT THE BOTTOM OF EACH PYRAMID AND YOU HAVE 666. ALSO, WHEN YOU ADD THE 3 CHARACTERS ACROSS THE TOP OF THE PYRAMIDS THIER LATIN NUMERICAL VALUE ADDS UP TO 1110. WHEN YOU MULTIPLY 1110 X 0.6 YOU GET 666! WHAT IS THE SIGNIFCANCE OF THIS LAST NUANCE? THE ANSWER IS THAT IN ANCIENT BABYLON THEY USED A

    SEXAGESIMAL SYSTEM (BASED ON THE NUMBERS 60 OR 6)

    WHERE THEY HAD 60 CENTS TO THE DOLLAR SO TO SPEAK.

    AMERICA, THE NEW BABYLON (DAUGHTER OF BABYLON) HAS

    A MONEY SYSTEM THAT HAS 100 CENTS TO THE DOLLAR A

    CENTESIMAL SYSTEM (BASED ON 100 OR 10) AND THIS

    FORMULA REPRESENTS THE GEOMETRIC PROGRESSION TYING

    AMERICA’S MONEY SYSTEM TO ANCIENT BABYLON!!! IT’S SO

    SIMPLE, I.E., 100 CENTS X 0.6 = 60 CENTS (BASE 10 SYSTEM

    VERSUS BASE 6 SYSTEM). AGAIN, 1110 X 0.6 = 666!!!

    IT IS INTERESTING THAT BASED ON SUMARIAN

    CODE/GEMATRIA THE NUMBER 1110 IS NOTHING MORE

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    THAN 666 (ANITCHRIST’S NUMBER) + 444 (FALSE PROPHET’S

    NUMBER) ADDED TOGETHER, ACCORDING TO AUTHOR GARY

    D. BLEVIN’S BOOK “THE FINAL WARNING” PAGE 456. ALSO,

    111 IS A FRACTAL OF 1110 AND THE FOLLOWING

    RELATIONSHIP CAN BE SHOWN USING THIS FRACTAL:

    FIRST (OR ANCIENT) BABYLON’S SYSTEM 6 X 111 = 666

    LAST (AMERICAN) BABYLON’S SYSTEM 10 X 111=1110

    ADDED TOGETHER = 1776

    IN ADDITION, WHEN THE BASE 6 (FIRST BABYLON’S SYSTEM)

    IS ADDED TO BASE 10 (END-TIME BABYLON OR AMERICA’S

    SYSTEM) YOU GET 16; HENCE, 1600 PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE IS

    THE ADDRESS OF THE WHITE HOUSE (1600 IS A FRACTAL OF

    16) AND SO ON THROUGHOUT WASHINGTON D.C. ALSO, THE

    POINT OF AN INVERTED PENTAGRAM FALLS ON THE WHITE

    HOUSE, CALLING DOWN THE KINGDON OF SATAN ON

    AMERICA AT “SATAN’S PALACE”, AMERICA’S WHITE HOUSE!

    AND, REMEMBER THAT 1776 IN ROMAN NUMERALS IS MDC

    CLX XVI FOR A TOTAL OF 9 NUMERALS. NINE IS THE NUMER

    OF PERFECTION. BY MULTIPLYING 9 X 16 YOU GET 144. IN

    THE SECRET TEACHINGS OF ALL AGES, M.P. HALL STATES THAT

    THE MYSTERIES DECLARE THAT THE MASONIC APRON MUST

    CONSIST OF 144 SQUARE INCHES. THIS IS REFERRING TO THE

    MASONIC APRON THAT GEORGE WASHINGTON WORE AT THE

    CORNERSTONE LAYING CEREMONY OF OUR U.S. CAPITOL

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    BUILDING. ALL MASTER MASON’S WANT TO BE BURIED

    WEARING THIS APRON BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN DECIEVED

    INTO BELIEVING THAT THIS IS “THE SEAL” OF THE 144,000

    SEALED TO GOD IN REVELATION 7:1-8.

    PLEASE NOTICE 666 IN ROMAN NUMERALS: DC LX VI

    600 60 6 = 666

    ALSO, NOTICE 444 IN ROMAN NUMERALS: CD XL IV

    400 40 4 = 444

    1110

    IF YOU HAVE’NT NOTICED, THE ROMAN NUMERALS IN 666

    AND 444 (ABOVE) ARE MIRROR IMAGE REFLECTIONS OF EACH

    OTHER AS ANTICHRIST AND THE FALSE PROPHET WILL BE!

    IN MORALS AND DOGMA, P. 826, ALBERT PIKE,

    MASONIC SUPREME GRAND MASTER OF AMERICA

    WROTE “THE TRIPLE TRIANGLE (SEE ABOVE) IS

    PECULIARLY SACRED, HAVING EVER BEEN AMONG ALL

    NATIONS A SYMBOL OF THE DEITY.” THEN, MANLY P.

    HALL IN, “THE SECRET TEACHINGS OF ALL AGES”,

    PP. 208; 552, UNVIELS THE MYSTERY OF THE

    TRIANGLE BY SHOWING THE METHOD OF THE GREEK

    MYSTIC, PYTHAGORAS, OF NUMBERING THE TRIANGLE (SEE

    ABOVE).

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    FOLLOWING IS A PICTURE OF GEORGE WASHINGTON WITH

    HIS MASONIC APRON CONSISTING OF 144 SQUARE INCHES.

    LAYING OF CORNERSTONE FOR U.S. CAPITOL BUILDING

    MASONIC CEREMONY LEAD BY GEORGE WASHINGTON

    Freemason David Ovason adds that when the Cornerstone of the US Capitol building was laid; it was done through Masonic ritual meant to procure approval of the pagan gods. As recorded in two bronze panels on the Senate doors of the Capitol, George Washington is seen standing in front of a Mason who holds two versions of the Masonic square, while he himself uses a Masonic trowel on the cornerstone. It is the apron Washington so famously wore that day that bears specific Masonic symbolism, which Ovason explains as designed to please the “invisible agencies”

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    ALL SEEING ILLUMINATI EYE

    who watched over the event. “Undoubtedly, invisible agencies were present at the cornerstone ceremony,” he says, “but they were made visible in the apron’s symbolism. The radiant eye represented the invisible presence of the Great Architect—the high Spiritual Being who had been invited by prayer and ritual to oversee the

    ceremonial. The radiant eye was… the „sun-eye,‟

    or Spiritual Sun [Horus/Osiris/Apollo].” Acknowledgment to such pagan gods through the use of images and symbols by Masons is interesting given their avowed consecration of the Bible, a book that clearly forbids this type activity as devotion to demons. In Acts 7:41-42 it explains that when men serve idols, they are

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    worshipping the host or “army” of heaven. Psalms 96:5 adds, “For all the gods of the nations are idols” (‘elilim, LXX daimonia [demons]). Other references conclude that idols of stone or relevant imagery, such as permeates Washington, D.C., are ‘elilim (empty, nothing, vanity); but that behind these images exist the true dynamic of idolatry—demons. The Apostle Paul confirmed this in 1 Corinthians 10:20, saying, “the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.” Posted by Tom Horn at 6:59 AM Labels: antichrist, D.C., freemasons, masons, new world order, novus ordo seclorum, washington

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    Involvement by Freemasons in the development of early America and the symbolic layout of Washington, D.C. as the Capital for the New Atlantis has been so well documented over the last two decades that even many Masons have ceased denying the affiliation. Daily Masonic tours through services devoted to this history are now offered of the city’s landmarks to illustrate the connection. For a fee, a guide will help you visit locations such as the George Washington Masonic National Memorial or the House of the Temple, the headquarters building of the Scottish Rite of

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    Freemasonry. Designed in 1911 (note the connection again between Masons and the numerological value 9-11), the House of the Temple hosts the Freemason Hall of Fame, an enormous collection of Freemason memorabilia including various artworks important to Masons, a library of 250,000 books, and is the location for the Rite’s Supreme Council 33rd Degree meetings. Upon leaving, you can exit the House of the Temple, walk down the street and take pictures of the enormous Masonic obelisk (phallic Egyptian symbol of fertility) in the distance known as the Washington Monument.

    MAP OF WASHINGTON D.C CLEARLY SHOWING THE INVERTED PENTAGRAM (GOAT HEAD OF MENDES)

    ABOVE THE U.S. WHITEHOUSE POINTING DUE SOUTH IN CONFORMITY WITH ANCIENT ILLUMINATI WITCHCRAFT

    TRADITIONS

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    For obvious reasons, while modern Masons may openly admit these days to involvement by their Jacobite ancestors toward establishing the foundation for a utopian New World Order in Washington, D.C., most vigorously deny that the talisman-like layout of the streets, government buildings and Masonic monuments were meant for what researcher David Bay calls an “electric-type grid” that pulsates “with Luciferic power 24 hours a day, seven days a week.” Notwithstanding this denial, the government’s own records explain otherwise, clearly stating that the Capital’s Design was “shepherded” by those who wanted it to reflect dedication to “pagan gods.” For instance the article “The Most Approved Plan: The Competition for the Capitol’s Design” on the Library of Congress’s website tells how, after advertising a competition for the design of Government Center in D.C., “Washington, Jefferson, and the Commissioners of the District of Colombia” were disappointed by the entries, and a design based on “The Roman Pantheon—the circular domed rotunda dedicated to all pagan gods—was suggested by Jefferson, who later shepherded it through several transformations.” *3+ [PLEASE NOTE: SCRIPT FOR PP. 6-10 TAKEN FROM APOLLON RISING—2012, PART 10 DRAFT ON TOM HORN WEBSITE, HT].

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    BARACK OBAMA AND DIMITRI MEDVEDEV IN

    MOSCOW, RUSSIA SUMMIT MEETING JULY 7, 2009

    UNDER THE ALL SEEING ILLUMINATI EYE

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    New Nuke Treaty? Not So Fast, Senators Say Last week, President Barack Obama signed an agreement with

    Russian President Dmitry Medvedev that will pave the way for a new

    Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty. The current START expires at the end

    of this year, and the new “joint understanding” commits the United States

    and Russia to a serious reduction in strategic warheads and delivery

    vehicles. There’s just one hitch: That whole advice-and-consent thing.

    Congressional Quarterly’s Josh Rogin reported this weekend that Senators

    may stand in the way of ratification, meaning the Obama administration

    will have to press ahead with planned cuts to the nuclear arsenal

    without congressional approval.

    BYE-BYE MISS AMERICAN PIE!

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    Is your city prepared for a home-made nuke? - science-in-society - 08 July 2009 - New Scientist Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:56 AM

    Is your city prepared for a home-made nuke? 08 July 2009 by David Shiga Magazine issue 2716. Subscribe and get 4 free issues. For similar stories, visit the Weapons Technology and The

    Nuclear Age Topic Guides AS US president Barack Obama visits Moscow this week to discuss nuclear arms reduction with his Russian opposite number Dmitry Medvedev, a different nuclear threat is preoccupying emergency planners back home. A panel of medical experts has just released its assessment of the technologies and therapies that could be rolled out if a home-made nuclear bomb was ever detonated in the heart of an American city. A device of this kind - now judged by Obama to pose "the most immediate and extreme threat to global security" - would kill hundreds of thousands of people. But as catastrophic as such an attack would be, it would not level an entire city, and a timely response could save many lives. Recent advances in techniques for mapping the path of radioactive fallout after an attack, combined with novel therapies for treating radiation victims, will improve survival chances, the report says. "Clearly there would be loss of life, but it's not hopeless," says Georges Benjamin, head of the panel of doctors and public health officials that was convened by the National Academy of Sciences to assess the nation's level of preparedness for such an attack. "We feel that there are things that one can do to mitigate it." So what would a city need to do? The panel explored the consequences of a nuclear explosion packing a punch equivalent to 10,000 tonnes of TNT. That's tiny compared with the thermonuclear weapons deployed by the US and Russia - and smaller even than the 15-kiloton bomb dropped on Hiroshima in 1945 - but plausible for an improvised device. The blast wave would destroy buildings and kill almost everyone within 1 kilometre (see map), so the panel focused its attention on

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    people outside this zone, for whom the main danger would come from radioactive fallout. "That's a place where you could get big gains if you plan right," says panel member Fred Mettler of the New Mexico Veterans Administration Health Center in Albuquerque. Highly radioactive rubble and dust thrown up by the explosion would rain down on the surroundings, emitting lethal gamma rays. The wind could carry deadly levels of fallout several kilometres in just a few minutes - too fast for anyone to outrun it. People attempting to drive out of danger on clogged roads would fare little better, as cars offer scant protection from gamma rays. For many people, the safest option would be to seek shelter in buildings or underground. Just staying inside could slash the immediate death toll from radiation by up to a factor of 100, or even 1000, Mettler says. However, people must be told this in advance. "Without prior education, it would be a horrible issue," he says.

    Just staying inside could slash the immediate death toll from radiation by a factor of up to 1000 One crucial factor will be for the authorities to get an instant picture of where the fallout is going and its quantity and speed. This will make it possible to figure out who should seek shelter and who should evacuate - and in which direction. It will also ensure that rescuers are not sent on "suicide missions" into areas of high radiation. The National Atmospheric Release Advisory Center (NARAC) at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California has for years been charged with providing predictions to emergency planners within a few minutes of serious incidents involving a release of radioactivity. NARAC's model would be used to guide planes and helicopters equipped with radiation detectors, whose measurements would in turn refine the model's predictions. NARAC is now working to improve its modelling software to take into account variations in wind speed and direction in three dimensions and fluctuations over time; the last version assumed winds vary only with height. It will also take into account the way rain can scrub fallout from the air and deposit it on the ground. While this would prevent fallout drifting so far, it would also mean

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    that larger amounts of radiation are deposited sooner and in different places than if there were no rain. Even with prompt predictions and the possibility of broadcasting them by radio, it is likely that many people would not be aware of what they need to do or would fail to reach shelter in time. The result would be exposure to high levels of radiation, which inflicts its most immediate damage on rapidly dividing cells such as bone marrow and the lining of the gut. Damage to bone marrow leads to reduced production of key immune cells and blood-clotting platelets. Very low levels of platelets can trigger dangerous bleeding even without any injury. Damage to the gut lining triggers internal bleeding, which is worsened by a lack of platelets. This in turn allows bacteria to leak into other parts of the body, resulting in potentially deadly infections, which are made worse by the lack of immune cells. Two drugs approved last year could help cut down such complications, says panel member Nelson Chao of Duke University in Durham, North Carolina. Amgen's Nplate (romiplostim), and GlaxoSmithKline's Promacta (eltrombopag) were approved for use in people with a rare condition that keeps their platelets in chronically short supply. Chao says they might also help boost platelet numbers in radiation victims, preventing dangerous blood loss and infections.

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    It may also soon be possible to use what are known as progenitor cells to prop up the patient's immune system while the bone marrow recovers. Developed by Cellerant Therapeutics in San Carlos, California, to help cancer patients undergoing radiotherapy, progenitor cells are part-way along the developmental path that starts with bone marrow stem cells and ends with immune cells like white blood cells. The therapy is still experimental. Results being presented at a stem cell meeting in Barcelona, Spain, this week show that mice start producing immune cells within a few days of being injected with progenitor cells. Elsewhere, a trial in 25 patients undergoing radiotherapy began in May. The cells can be grown in the lab and frozen until needed. If they are found to be safe and effective, they could be stockpiled for use in case of a nuclear attack, says Ram Mandalam, CEO of Cellerant. Even if progenitor cells do prove effective, Chao points out that meeting the sudden surge in demand following a nuclear attack would overwhelm a city hospital. Mandalam suggests the solution would be to transport patients to treatment centres farther away. According to Mettler, this and other medical therapies might cut the radiation death toll by a factor of 3. The federal government has yet to respond to the report, though Benjamin points out it is still early days. "This is hot off the press," he says. "We've literally just briefed them."

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    Wed Jul 08 18:12:20 BST 2009 by What da f. . . Erhh! Der! Duh! Is my block ready for a nuke!?! W.T.F. Reply report this comment Wtf! Wed Jul 08 22:32:29 BST 2009 by Think Again. Is your city prepared for a flu pandemic? Potential death due to a nuke < 1 million Potential death due to flu pandemic > 100 million Deaths by Spanish flu of 1918 > 60 million Be scared about the right things. reply report this comment Wtf! Thu Jul 09 14:49:15 BST 2009 by Wow

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    So what your saying is because the flu pandemic has the potential to kill more we should not try to do anything about WMDs?

    HOLD ON, all you scientists and doctors out there working on cancer and strokes, stop now because heart disease kills more, we should focus on that..... reply report this comment Wtf! Thu Jul 09 23:30:54 BST 2009 by Think Again No, I'm saying care about flu 100 times more than terrorism.

    reply report this comment Wtf! Thu Jul 09 02:53:01 BST 2009 by Wendy Stone Well, you know what? If the technology is there, sooner or later, SOMEBODY will use it. Not much we can do about it for the moment ... but I hope someone is working on some technology that will sponge up radiation. reply report this comment Wtf! Thu Jul 09 04:29:28 BST 2009 by Nick "Someone" did use it. The U.S.A killed one quarter of a million civilians in Nagasaki and Hiroshima

    reply report this comment Wtf! Fri Jul 10 10:06:45 BST 2009 by Well done US! And very thankful we are for that. If they hadn't then hundreds of thousands of men and women would have been killed in the continuation of the pacific war.

    ...would you have stormed the beaches of Japan to save Japanese civillians? ..hmm didn't think so! reply report this comment 7 more replies view thread Wtf! Thu Jul 09 07:39:55 BST 2009 by Gertrude Does a dose of iodine before a nuking help?

    reply report this comment Wtf! Thu Jul 09 17:55:37 BST 2009 by Byron Raum Under certain very limited circumstances, iodine will help. If you take it, you will present your body with a surfeit of iodine, making it less likely that your body will pick up radioactive iodine from the atmosphere and thereby protecting you from thyroid cancer. However, it won't help against being directly exposed to either the blast or the radiation, or other kinds of cancers.

    reply report this comment Wtf! Sun Jul 12 20:52:41 BST 2009 by Sammi

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    Yes it will help and you can bet all our government officials have the pills at the ready! Radiation kills the thyroid gland. That's why it's used to treat certain thyroid conditions. You can't live without your thyroid gland so they put you on thyroid medication for the rest of your life.

    reply report this comment view thread This comment breached our terms of use and has been removed. Blast Effectiveness Exaggerated Wed Jul 08 18:37:22 BST 2009 by Thomas Goodey I don't believe that, with a 10 KT device, "the blast wave would destroy buildings and kill almost everyone within 1 kilometre". We are not talking about an air burst, but a surface burst. The flash cannot shine very far. The blast wave will destroy buildings over a wide area, perhaps indeed one km in radius, but I think a lot of people would still survive from those destroyed buildings. It does depend upon the nature of the buildings, however.

    reply report this comment Blast Effectiveness Exaggerated Thu Jul 09 01:24:33 BST 2009 by Dirk Bruere http://www.neopax.com The whole 10kT scenario is implausible for a homemade nuke. A more likely yield would be less than a tenth of that. The 10kT presumably assumes a gun type U235 bomb in a basement, whereas the most likely threat is a crude Pu implosion device.

    reply report this comment Blast Effectiveness Exaggerated Sat Jul 11 09:06:21 BST 2009 by Rick (USN) The blast would in fact be the least of your worries. Nuke proofing buildings doesn't sound practical, not to mention all the structures that currently stand that are targets to terrorists. Buildings that serve as symbols, like the world trade center did. The real problem is the after effects of a nuke. Radiation and it complications, maybe even nuclear winter in some degree. Radiation and radioactive materials can be moved by contact, or by wind or water, and that would rain down well past any blast zone. Before it starts to move in the manner previously mentioned. Nukes are scary, but what scares me is a biological attack. They are easier to deliver and they could start showing symptoms after it's way too late to contain. Say it's take two weeks to see the symptoms, and imagine how far it would go into two weeks! With 6 degrees of separation one in every 6 people would be a possible contaminant or carrier. The scary thing is any sort of illness is only a place ride away. So the attack might not even happen in the US to find it's way over here. It's true that the terrorists would rick their own lives with this endeavor, but as we can see many are extremely educated and prepared to sacrifice themselves. As evidenced by the demographic of most suicide bombers is older 30 to 40 years old PROFESSIONAL people, well respected in society. Doctors, lawyers, engineers, ect.

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    JEREMIAH 50:2-3 A Prophecy Against Babylon (America)

    2 “Announce and proclaim among the nations, lift up a banner and proclaim it; keep nothing back, but say, „Babylon (America) will be captured; Bel (a name for Lucifer in ancient Babylon) will be put to shame, Marduk (also a name for Lucifer in ancient Babylon) filled with terror. Her images will be put to shame and her idols (the fallen/demon angels) filled with terror.‟ 3 A nation (Russia) from the north will attack her and lay waste her land. No one will live in it; both men and animals will flee away. JEREMIAH 50:39-40

    39 … It will never again be inhabited or lived in from generation to generation. 40 As God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah along with their neighboring towns,” declares the LORD, “so no one will live there; no man will dwell in it.

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    FOR HE WILL COMMAND HIS ANGELS CONCERNING YOU

    TO GUARD YOU IN ALL YOUR WAYS; THEY WILL LIFT YOU

    UP IN THEIR HANDS, SO THAT YOU WILL NOT STRIKE

    YOUR FOOT AGAINST A STONE. (PSALM 91:11-12)