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Second National ILC-UK Retirement Income Summit
Friday 10th June 2016
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Welcome by Host
Laurence Baxter Head of Policy & Research, The Chartered
Insurance Institute
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Welcome by Chair
Lawrence Churchill Trustee, ILC-UK
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Members of the ILC-UK Partners Programme
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Getting young people saving
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Session chaired by
Jemima OlchawskiHead of Policy and Insight, The Fawcett Society
Future of Retirement Income
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Michelle McGagh, Freelance Journalist
Kate Jopling, Freelance policy and strategy consultant
Helen Creighton, former ILC-UK Researcher
Claire Walsh, Chartered Financial Planner,Aspect 8 Brighton
Future of Retirement Income- Panel
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Chip CastilleManaging Director, Chief Retirement Strategist,
BlackRock
Innovation at retirement.Lessons from the US,
opportunities and challenges
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GLOBAL RETIREMENT INSIGHTS
CHIP CASTILLEBlackRock Chief Retirement Strategist
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Retirement systems around the globe are still evolving
There are 5 common themes driving retirement research, product development and commercial opportunity around the world.
Increased Regulatory Activity
Demographic Changes
Technology and Product Design
Shift to Defined Contribution
Focus on Retirement Income
We’ve explored these themes and built our community of retirement thought-leaders through the launch of an international Retirement Institute
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Retirement systems around the globe are still evolving
Dramatic increases in life expectancy are having large implications for not only the workforce, but political, health and other social systems
Source: World Economic Forum, https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/03/167-years-of-the-us-age-demographic-in-one-chart?utm_content=buffer6b571&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
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Increased Regulatory Activity
Demographic Changes
Technology and Product Design
Shift to Defined Contribution
Focus on Retirement Income
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CHOICENetherlands: Reforms may move the Netherlands towards “pension freedoms” within DC system
Retirement systems around the globe are still evolving
Regulatory changes around the globe are causing retirement markets to converge towards a more similar approach
Demographic Changes
Technology and Product Design
Shift to Defined Contribution
Focus on Retirement Income
Increased Regulatory Activity
CAREUnited States: DOL just passed a new fiduciary rule for advisors providing retirement advice
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COVERAGEJapan: Government expected to expand coverage of Individual DC (JIDC) nationwide
UK: NEST program promotes coverage, offering access to retirement savings vehicles outside an employer
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Retirement systems around the globe are still evolving
Multinational organizations are increasingly interested in Defined Contribution solutions for global workforces
Increased Regulatory Activity
Demographic Changes
Technology and Product Design
Shift to Defined Contribution
Focus on Retirement Income
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Local outcomes + global benefits may be achieved with the right Target Date
Fund platform
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Life Expectancy
Labor Market Wages
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Retirement income remains a “highest need” across channels
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Remain financially independent
Have enough moneyto last your lifetime
25%
41%
22%
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Most ImportantSecond Most Important
Individuals
Social Security claiming strategies
Income and expense planning for retirement
48%
65%
Advisors’ Most Requested Re-tirement Training Initiative1
Advisors Institutions
Income beats advisors’ next
area of interest by 17 points
1. LIMRA Secure Retirement Institute’s Retirement Income Reference Book 20152. BlackRock DC Pulse Survey, 2016
CLIENT’S MOST IMPORTANT RETIREMENT GOALS1
RETIREMENT INCOME DOMINATES
69%
…of employers need for retirement income solutions in
retirement plans2
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Traditional wealth management tools only solve for part of the problem
There are still two issues people struggle with that prevent them from solving the retirement problem in income terms.
Retirement Costs1 Life Expectancy2
1. Source: Goldstein, Daniel G. and Hershfield, Hal E. and Benartzi, Shlomo, The Illusion of Wealth and Its Reversal (January 28, 2014)2. Source: Society of Actuaries, 2011 Risks and Process of Retirement Survey; SOA UP 1994 Projected to 2011; Average of retiree and pre-retirees; Totals may not sum due to rounding
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Underestimate Overestimate
60% underestimate longevity – Equates to underestimating the cost of one’s retirement
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Amount SavedPresented in income terms Presented in lump sum terms
Seeing retirement prospects in income terms vs. a lump sum
increases savings rates
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Such a benchmark should incorporate the three risks that investors now must manage:
A benchmark for retirement income to solve for these shortfalls
Must help translate changes in assets into income terms
MARKET RISK
Must ensure enough assets to sustain efficient consumption over an unknown period
LONGEVITY RISK
Must understand retirement income costs to avoid a shortfall
LIABILITY RISK
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A real-world method for estimating lifetime retirement income costs:
Introducing the BlackRock CoRI® Retirement Indices
Retirement
Increases as an investor approaches a chosen retirement date, then becomes less expensive1
Clear, intuitive translation: £1 per year for life with a cost-of-living adjustment to reduce impact of inflation
x
£250,000saved at age 55
£11,256estimated annual income
starting at age 65
UKCORI25 £22.211
Measure where you stand today Set a forward-looking strategic plan
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1. CoRI Index levels are subject to change over time and are shown for illustrative purposes only. Source: BlackRock as of 31 March 2016. Past performance is not indicative of future results. Indexes are unmanaged and one cannot invest directly in an index. Data shown does not represent an actual investment or account.
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Putting it together: What can CoRI ® tell us about the retirement income outlook for UK savers?
CoRI performance1 Impact to Retirement Income2
Needed £19.46 saved per pound of retirement income
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Change in Income Potential: -12.21%
Needed £22.21saved per pound of retirement income
1. Source: Bloomberg, BlackRock; Data reflects CoRI Index 2025 performance since inception from 30 June 2015 – 31 March 2016. See prior slide for important information about the CoRI Indices.2. Source: BlackRock. Market performance reflects a sample 40/60 equity/bond investment strategy from 30 June 2015 – 31 March 2016.
The estimated cost of future retirement income for a 55-year-old increased 14% in the 9 months since launch:
Retirement Prospects for: 55-year-old investor £250,000 saved for retirement Expected retirement age of 65
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Retirement Investing Framework: Saving phase
How much investor actually
has saved
How much investor needs
saved to fund income goal
15 years to close gap
For illustrative purposes only. Example does not represent an actual account.
Process allows for flexibility around how investor chooses to course correct
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Retirement Investing Framework: Spending phase
For illustrative purposes only. Example does not represent an actual account.
Process includes flexibility to re-evaluate periodic spending goals by varying portfolio
Like pre-retirement, investor may incur volatility
How much investor
actually has saved
How much investor needs saved to fund income goal
Match assets for continued spending
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Ability to wrap this in a technology that delivers a repeatable and actionable client experience
Assess client’s current savings and progress
towards meeting income goals
Build a savings and investment plan to help put clients on track for future income goals
Execute new investment portfolio decisions
Repeat next year and rebalance client’s plan as
markets or goals have changed
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WEB DEMO
Where we’re going
Extending the framework for investors ages 60 – 84 who are currently in retirement and wrapping in a technology that will help to make decisions around various tradeoffs in retirement:
Can I spend more today?
What’s a sustainable
spending rate?
Should I annuitize a
portion of my income?
What investment risk can I take?
How can I ensure I won’t
outlive my money?
Should I work longer?
How do I protect against inflation?
Do I need to find other sources of
income?
Will I have enough in the
future?
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Summarising ability to deliver on the global retirement themes
Robust process, advice driven models
Quantify wealth in retirement-income terms
Invest for longer life expectancy
Lifecycle investing, ability to manage outcomes
Tradeoffs and solutions managing toward retirement income goals
Increased Regulatory Activity
Demographic Changes
Technology and Product Design
Shift to Defined Contribution
Focus on Retirement Income
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The CoRI® tool is based on the BlackRock CoRI Retirement Indices (CoRI Indices), which are designed to provide individuals aged 55 to 74 with an estimate of what it will cost today for each pound of annual income you want in retirement. Each CoRI Index seeks to track the changes over time in the estimated cost of lifetime retirement income for individuals who turn or turned 65 in the year specified in the Index. So for example if you turn 65 in 2019 you should use the CoRI Index 2019 as the index to calculate an estimate of your retirement income potential. Future income estimates are expressed in today's pounds, and like any index, the CoRI Indices change daily. The CoRI Indices reflect one metric that investors can use to think about their future retirement goals and plans.
We remind you that CoRI does not provide an estimate of the returns of your individual savings and investments. It is not designed as a pension calculator and should not be relied upon for that purpose. Your CoRI number is provided for illustrative purposes only to provide a generic estimate of the cost of an annual income in retirement in today's cash terms. There are no guarantees that these estimates will be realised. You cannot invest directly in CoRI. Actual investment outcomes will vary and may be subject to taxation. The CoRI Indices are subject to change.
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Where next for adviceand guidance?
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Dr Cesira Urzì BrancatiResearch Fellow, ILC-UK
The importance of financial capability
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The International Longevity Centre-UK is an independent, non-partisan think-tank dedicated to addressing issues of longevity, ageing and population change.
What Financial Capability?
Theory, Facts and Misconceptions
Cesira Urzì Brancati, ILC-UK
The International Longevity Centre-UK is an independent, non-partisan think-tank dedicated to addressing issues of longevity, ageing and population change.
What we talk about when we talk about Financial capability
Financial Education: the process by which financial consumers/investors improve their understanding of financial products and concepts and, through information, instruction, and/or objective advice, develop the skills and confidence to become more aware of financial risks and opportunities to make informed choices, to know where to go for help, and to take other effective actions to improve their financial well-being. Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD, 2005)
Financial Literacy: basic understanding of personal finance, and financial behaviour, such as saving and investing. It is a combination of awareness, knowledge, skill, attitude and behaviour necessary to make sound financial decisions and ultimately achieve individual financial wellbeing (Lusardi and Mitchell, 2006)
Financial Capability: a person’s ability to manage money well, both day to day and through significant life events, and to handle periods of financial difficulty. (MAS, 2015) Individual develop more than just knowledge and skills, they als gain access to financial policies, instruments, and services (Johnson and Sherraden)
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Financial Capability: Why it Matters for Retirement Income
• The responsibility for an adequate retirement income is increasingly being placed on individuals?• Are we saving enough to top up the State Pension for
retirement?• And once we enter retirement, can we make sure our
money doesn’t run out too soon? • Or rather, can we balance our consumption needs with our
desire to protect ourselves from the risk of outliving our assets?
• Many economists would argue that No, we are not saving enough, No we don’t really know how to make sure our money doesn’t run out, and No we are not very good at self insuring.
• Behavioural biases aside, we are not very good at any of those things because we are financially illiterate!
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Financial Literacy Levels Very Low• Only 1 in 4 English persons aged 50+ can perform a simple calculation to
compound interest • 1 in 3 men and 1 in 6 women• And younger people know more than their older counterparts
Let's say you have £200 in a savings account. The account earns ten per cent interest each year. How much would you have in the account at the end of two years?
Proportion of men and women who gave a correct answer
Source: Own elaborations using ELSA (2008/9 to 2014/15)
Men WomenAged 50 to 60 40.5% 23.4%
60-69 31.5% 15.7%
70-79 19.4% 8.6%
80+ 13.3% 7.4%
Total 33.2% 17.8%
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Who Understands Percentages?
If the chance of getting a disease is 10 percent, how many people out of 1,000 (one thousand) would be expected to get the disease?
1 in 10 older men and 1 in 5 women got this wrong
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What about Fractions?
A second hand car dealer is selling a car for £6,000. This is two-thirds of what it cost new. How much did the car cost new?
68% of older men and about half the women got this right
Note: About 1 in 12 answered £18,000…
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Maybe Simple Divisions?
If 5 people all have the winning numbers in the lottery and the prize is £2 million, how much will each of them get?
69% of older men and only 45% of women got this right
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More correct answers = more savings
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Note: 45% gave 4 or more correct answers. The results hold even if we account for age and gender.Source: Own elaborations using ELSA (2008/9 to 2014/15)
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More correct answers = more likely to have planned for care
Note: 45% gave 4 or more correct answers; Planning for care includes: taking out insurance, consulting a financial advisor, started savings, bought property, other. Source: Own elaborations using ELSA (2008/9 to 2014/15)
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Ok, so people cannot count. But does it matter?
The more correct answers people give, the better their outcomes on many financial domains:
1. Are better able to manage their finances2. Shop around for the best financial products
– Choose cheaper mortgages– Buy better annuities
3. Plan for retirement4. They are more likely to participate in the stock market
– Hold better diversified portfolios, do not suffer from home bias etc.5. Are less likely to be over-indebted6. Many more…
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The long road from Literacy to Capability• Numeracy is just one aspect of financial capability• OECD recently working on new ways to measure financial
capability (which they call literacy…)• Survey includes questions on:
˗ Financial Knowledge (numeracy, basic concepts related to inflation, interest compounding, risk/return, diversification etc.)
˗ Financial Behaviour (shopping around, paying bills on time, set long term goals etc.)
˗ Attitudes (short term vs. long term) • All aspects are strongly correlated• But measuring access to financial policies, instruments, and
services is trickier…
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Can Financial Capability be Learnt?• Many critics argue that high financial capability is nothing but an
indicator of higher innate ability or other personal characteristics (like a taste for financial matters).
• But the impact of (measured) financial capability on financial behaviours is ambiguous• In other words, people save more and can give more correct
answers simply because they are smarter…• Or maybe people have saved more/invested better and so
they have learned the working of compound interest (etc.), rather than the opposite.
• So, do financial education programmes work?• As usual the answer is: depends…
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Financial Capability: What Works?• Three large meta-analysis have concluded that:
˗ Financial education can affect some behaviours (including savings and record keeping), but not others;
˗ ‘Just in time’ interventions are more effective;˗ Courses that last only a few hours are less effective;˗ Workplace interventions or career counselling are more
effective. • There is still a lot we do not know – the UK has launched the
Financial Capability Strategy to find out what works.• But what works for some groups, may not be enough for others
˗ We have a forthcoming report on ‘What works for Older People’ …
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Three Key Take-aways• A large proportion of people lack the
most basic financial capability – women and older people are especially disadvantaged
• Higher financial capability translates into better preparedness for retirement
• Increasing financial capability is possible, but we need to know what interventions really work
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The International Longevity Centre-UK is an independent, non-partisan think-tank dedicated to addressing issues of longevity, ageing and population change.
Financial Literacy is Good for Sex!!
Younger than 60 60-69 70-79 80+ All Ages0%
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Many thanks
Cesira Urzi BrancatiInternational Longevity Centre - UK02073400440
Michelle CracknellChief Executive, The Pensions Advisory Service
(TPAS)
The future of pensions guidance
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Claire Walsh, Aspect8, Brighton
Jackie Spencer, Money Advice Service
Michelle Cracknell, TPAS
Dr Cesira Urzì Brancati, ILC-UK
The Advice Debate- Panel
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Lunch
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Welcome by Chair
Baroness Sally GreengrossChief Executive, ILC-UK
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IFoA research on pension freedoms and the views and uptake by consumers
Rebecca DeeganPolicy Manager, Institute and Faculty of Actuaries
(IFoA)
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Public attitudes to freedom and choiceRebecca Deegan, Policy Manager
10 June 2016
Objective
• Following the one year anniversary of the implementation of the freedom and choice reforms we commissioned an opinion poll to assess:– Awareness of the reforms– Whether people thought the reforms were a good or bad thing– Whether people are comfortable making retirement income decisions– How confident people are that their pension income will last a lifetime
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Awareness of the reforms
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In April 2015, the Government introduced new rules that mean you can now access your defined contribution pension savings from the age of 55, and you no longer have to buy an annuity. Were you aware of these new rules?
Perception of freedom and choice
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Generally speaking do you think these new rules are a good or bad thing?
What has stopped people accessing the freedoms?
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• “My pension is for retirement not now and should be protected for that time”
• “I want to have as much available as possible when I'm no longer earning”
• “It's foolish”• “It's pretty clearly a VERY bad idea”• “Many will regret the change as they get older”• “Would perhaps be better off ignoring it”
Whether people are comfortable making retirement income decisions
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The Government is offering a free 30 minute guidance session for people aged over 55 before they access their pension. People can also choose to pay for regulated financial advice. Do you understand the difference between guidance and advice?
(Answers shown as % of respondents)
How confident people are that their pension income will last a lifetime• Only 21% of respondents felt their pension income would be enough for
them to live on for the rest of their life. Again, social status, age and gender appear to be influencing factors:– 26% of middle class respondents felt savings would last compared to
13% from the working class– More people age 55-64 are concerned that their pension would not last
a lifetime (23%) compared to those age 65+ (12%)– Males (28%) also tended to be more confident than females (15%) that
their savings would last for the rest of their life– Surprisingly only 3% anticipated using their housing wealth to fund their
retirement
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Long term care
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Source: Rickayzen, B. (2007) An analysis of disability-linked annuities’, Actuarial Research paper No. 180, Cass Business School, London
Conclusions• One year into the freedom and choice reforms, awareness of the reforms and
confidence in making decision about retirement income are high amongst the respondents. Yet views on whether these reforms are positive are mixed.
• Understanding of the difference between the free guidance session provided by Pension Wise and regulated financial advice was not universal. It is important that those who opt to take either guidance or advice understand the difference, and have appropriate expectations of what they can gain from accessing either of these services.
• Only 4% of respondents have made plans to meet any potential long term care costs, this is a concern where the number of people with care needs is rising.
• Differences in attitude and action between age groups, genders and social status’ suggest that targeted approaches for each segment of the population could be more effective than a ‘one-size-fits-all’ approach to improving awareness and understanding.
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Retirement today,retirement tomorrow
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Ben FranklinHead of Economics of an Ageing Society, ILC-UK
The future of retirement income
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The question is………..What does good look like?
Ben Franklin, ILC-UKFollow us on twitter: @ilcuk @bjafranklinEmail: benfranklin@ilcuk.org.uk
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Key takeaway: What good looks like will be markedly different for different stakeholders
• Politicians
• Policymakers
• Older person
• Regulators
• Industry
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Towards some sweeping generalisations
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Politicians care about:
• Getting elected.
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Politicians care about:
• Getting elected.• Freedom and choice as an end in itself.
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Politicians care about:
• Getting elected.• Freedom and choice as an end in itself. • Ensuring it was in place before election.
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Civil servants care about:
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Civil servants care about:
• Delivering on ministerial agenda.
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Civil servants care about:
• Delivering on ministerial agenda.• Implementing freedom and choice reforms under
time pressure.
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Retirees care about:
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Retirees care about:
• Having choice.
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Retirees care about:
• Having choice.• Having a fun aspirational retirement.
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Retirees care about:
• Having choice.• Having a fun aspirational retirement.• Avoiding poverty and destitution.
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Regulators care about:
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Regulators care about:
• The stability of the system.
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Regulators care about:
• The stability of the system.• Ensuring the stability of firms.
The International Longevity Centre-UK is an independent, non-partisan think-tank dedicated to addressing issues of longevity, ageing and population change.
Regulators care about:
• The stability of the system.• Ensuring the stability of firms. • Avoiding mis-selling scandals.
The International Longevity Centre-UK is an independent, non-partisan think-tank dedicated to addressing issues of longevity, ageing and population change.
Industry cares about:
The International Longevity Centre-UK is an independent, non-partisan think-tank dedicated to addressing issues of longevity, ageing and population change.
Industry cares about:
• Staying afloat.
The International Longevity Centre-UK is an independent, non-partisan think-tank dedicated to addressing issues of longevity, ageing and population change.
Industry cares about:
• Staying afloat. • Raising revenue through products and
services.
The International Longevity Centre-UK is an independent, non-partisan think-tank dedicated to addressing issues of longevity, ageing and population change.
Industry cares about:
• Staying afloat. • Raising revenue through products and
services.• Ensuring continued revenue in new era of
retirement freedoms.
The International Longevity Centre-UK is an independent, non-partisan think-tank dedicated to addressing issues of longevity, ageing and population change.
We need to develop a way of framing the debate that is consistent with these competing views and which has, at its heart, the consumer.
Mission statement
The International Longevity Centre-UK is an independent, non-partisan think-tank dedicated to addressing issues of longevity, ageing and population change.
How do we do this?One way through the mire might be to consider what poor outcomes look like:
Government reverses freedoms due to poor consumer outcomes.
As a consequence, civil servants and regulators need to firefight in the face of an about-turn.
Retirees increasingly confused and distrusting of govt, regulators and industry.
Reputational damage for the industry negatively affecting business volumes.
The International Longevity Centre-UK is an independent, non-partisan think-tank dedicated to addressing issues of longevity, ageing and population change.
Some principles for developing the system Any changes must work with grain of freedom and
choice.
But consumer protections must be enhanced to reduce risk of poor outcomes.
...Australia as a cautionary tale.
Waiting for evidence on consumer outcomes before taking action like closing the gate after the horse has bolted.
But outcomes should be monitored in order to improve the system over the long run.
The International Longevity Centre-UK is an independent, non-partisan think-tank dedicated to addressing issues of longevity, ageing and population change.
What this means in practiceShort term measures:
• Default financial guidance (a conversation) before retirees take action.
• Development of default retirement income products for high risk groups who do nothing.
• Development of improved systems for monitoring and communicating consumer choices and outcomes.
Long term measures
• Whole of life financial guidance not just at point of retirement.
• Simplification in communicating retirement options including products and services.
• Building a regulatory framework to weed out the pension scammers.
• Improved access to financial advice supported by visual online tools and aids.
The International Longevity Centre-UK is an independent, non-partisan think-tank dedicated to addressing issues of longevity, ageing and population change.
Final thought: All work and no play makes Ben a dull boy…
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The International Longevity Centre-UK is an independent, non-partisan think-tank dedicated to addressing issues of longevity, ageing and population change.
Many thanks
Ben FranklinInternational Longevity Centre - UK02073400440Twitter: @ilcuk @bjafranklinEmail: benfranklin@ilcuk.org.uk
Baroness Jeannie DrakeMember of the Pensions Commission 2002 to 2006
and a board member of the Pensions Protection Fund from 2004
The Pension Commissionten years on
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Professor David Blake Professor of Pension Economics, Cass Business
School
We Need a National Narrative: Building a Consensus around
Retirement Income
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Independent Яeview of Retirement
Income
We Need a National Narrative: Building a Consensus around Retirement Income
David Blakewww.pensions-institute.org
d.blake@city.ac.uk
June 2016
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Agenda Introduction Contributing to national narrative:
The pensions industry The national media The regulatory system The political system Pension tax system and level of pension savings
Conclusion Key elements of a national narrative
Introduction Making decisions about retirement income are
the hardest financial decisions people ever have to make because risks involved in the generation of
retirement income are so poorly understood. Getting it right requires a national narrative about
what pensions are for. Everyone in Parliament – whatever their political
affiliation – and industry has to sign up to this narrative just as they did with auto-enrolment.
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Key risks involved in the generation of retirement income
Investment risk Inflation risk Interest rate risk Longevity risk
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Life expectancy
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100Idiosyncratic risk
Variability in life times
1 in 1000 chance of living twice life expectancy at age
65
1 in 10 chance of living twice life expectancy at
age 85
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INDIVIDUAL UNDERESTIMATES OF LIFE EXPECTANCY BY AGE
Number of years by which consumers underestimate life expectancy
WomenMen60-69
50-59
40-49
30-39
20-29
0 2 64 8 10
Age
Individuals consistentlyunderestimate how long they will live
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Contributing to a national narrative
Contributing to national narrative 1: The pensions industry
Providers, advisers, investment managers and insurers
Serious fissures in relationships between these four groups, in particular between investment managers and insurers
over assets providers and advisers
over clients Yet all these parties are needed to provide
appropriate, effective and good-valued retirement income solutions.
If commercial airlines can do it….
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Contributing to national narrative 1: The pensions industry
‘Freedom and choice’ could be a disaster if these matters are not addressed.
Particular segment of the market most at risk is mass market DC customers with pension assets between £30,000 and £100,000
Such consumers are unlikely to pay for full regulated advice and therefore at risk of buying expensive, poorly designed products on a non-advised basis.
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Contributing to national narrative 1: The pensions industry
Simplest solution is a safe harbour retirement income plan which combines: Simple decision tree and limited set of default
pathways Safe harbour products that:
deliver income flexibility have inflation and longevity protection meet minimum design standards in terms of efficacy deliver clear value for money
Financial help, most probably delivered over the internet.
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Contributing to national narrative 1: The pensions industry
If between them, providers, advisers, investment managers and insurers are unable to deliver this solution,
this would be considerably more serious than the market failure that Pensions Commission was set up to investigate and resolve via AE absence of voluntary pension savings by up
9 million employees in companies without a pension scheme
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Contributing to national narrative 1: The pensions industry
Resolution to this new potential market failure would be national master trust drawdown scheme with public service obligation to accept any
DC retiree, irrespective of pot size. Might be simple continuation of NEST's
public service obligation to accept any employer for accumulation if EU regulations permit
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Contributing to a national narrative 2: The national media
‘There’s an unsettling dichotomy between the messages of the mainstream media (“This is your money and you are entitled to
do with it whatever you want, whenever you please”)
and the more considered, long-term approach which is generally prevalent in financial services press and among advisers and providers’
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Contributing to a national narrative 3: The regulatory system
According to those we interviewed, the current fragmented regulatory system fails to: encourage design of effective, value-for-money
products and solutions with safe-harbour status adequately protect consumers from mis-selling and
fraud. Solution would be to have single pensions regulator
specifically tasked with these responsibilities. It would also have responsibility for trying to change
regulations which contribute to bad outcomes.
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Contributing to a national narrative 4: The political system
Increasingly clear that five-year political business cycle not suited to dealing with long-term issues like pensions, long-term care and long-term savings.
Political parties totally focused on winning next election and unable to think beyond that.
Therefore very hard to get any political party to adopt sensible long-term solutions to the problems of pensions, long-term care and long-term savings especially if this involves sacrifices today, because it
fears this would benefit its opponents who could well be in power when benefits begin to
show.
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Contributing to a national narrative 4: The political system
One way of achieving national narrative as well as dealing with myopia of political system is to have Pensions, Care and Savings Commission (PCSC).
Would be independent body that would have cross-party support and would make recommendations on issues related to pensions, care and long-term savings.
Would require evidence basis for recommendations together with impact and risk assessment.
Particularly important role for PCSC would be to ensure inter-generational equity.
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Contributing to a national narrative 5: Pension tax system and level of pension savings
Final contribution needs to come from pension tax regime and level of pension savings it encourages.
The pension reforms which ended the requirement to annuitise pension wealth bring into question whole system of very generous tax relief currently granted to pension savings and investment.
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Contributing to a national narrative 5: Pension tax system and level of pension savings
In terms of pension tax relief, potential Government aims might be:
To encourage level of pension savings needed to achieve a target standard of living in retirement which might be defined as: ‘essential’ – income sufficient to cover an individual’s
minimum basic expenditure needs ‘adequate’ – income sufficient to achieve a minimum
lifestyle to which an individual aspires in retirement ‘desired’ – income sufficient to achieve the full lifestyle
to which the individual aspires in retirement.
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Contributing to a national narrative 5: Pension tax system and level of pension savings
To encourage individuals to make provision for long-term care
To achieve tax neutrality over life cycle To achieve a degree of equity between
members of the same generation To achieve a degree of equity across
generations In terms of pension savings:
Adopting a national retirement savings target of 15% of lifetime earnings
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Conclusion
Conclusion Unifying thread that runs through funded
pension scheme is requirement to annuitise enough pension wealth to provide an adequate lifelong income in retirement rationale for establishing pension scheme.
It is this requirement which makes funded pension scheme different from any other type of savings scheme.
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Conclusion When annuitisation optional, that unifying
thread is no longer present and real danger that pension system begins to unravel.
At best, it just becomes a tax-favoured arrangement for operating a multi-purpose spending pot once money has been spent for one
purpose, it cannot be spent on another. At worst, it becomes a honey pot for thieves
and other opportunists.
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Conclusion Lying between these extremes are millions
of people now in control of their pension fund and who will be trying to do the best for themselves and their families.
But for anyone who understands the risks involved, many of these people will find themselves in the same kind of control as a yachtsman in the middle of the Atlantic in a force nine gale.
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Conclusion A great deal of effort will now have to go into
re-establishing what a good pension scheme is
This will need a commonly agreed national narrative.
Without this, people’s aversion to annuitisation combined with their willingness to pay highly for both flexibility and guarantees could leave them worse off than if they purchased an annuity to begin with.
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Conclusion However, potential market failures:
No deferred annuity market No institutional drawdown or annuitisation
solutions being offered No equivalent of NEST
Gap between guidance and advice Guidance is not enough People don’t want to pay for advice People want ‘help’ in the form of a decision tree
• Although advisory, this is currently classified as advice
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Key elements of a national narrative
Key elements of a national narrative The primary purpose of a pension scheme
is to provide an income in retirement for however long the scheme member lives
A pension scheme needs to offer accessibility, inflation protection (either directly or via investment performance) and longevity insurance
A pension scheme needs to provide value for money with the benefits clearly exceeding the costs
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Key elements of a national narrative Individual should not be expected to manage
the risks involved in the generation of retirement income from pension savings themselves
Middle Britain – with pension assets between £30,000 and £100,000 – should be recommended to use a retirement income plan that involves a simple decision tree and a limited set of default pathways
The retirement income plan would be self-started following a guidance or advice surgery
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Key elements of a national narrative The plan member would choose from a set of
safe harbour products approved by the regulator. The purpose of the decision tree is to identify the products that are most suitable for meeting the plan member’s needs
The safe harbour products would include annuities, drawdown products and longevity insurance that meet minimum design standards in terms of efficacy and deliver clear value for money
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Key elements of a national narrative The plan member would have flexible
access to the pension pot until the point that longevity insurance kicks in
To have an adequate pension in retirement, Middle Britain, needs to understand that it has to save 15% of its lifetime earnings in a pension scheme
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Pension Freedoms:The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
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Steve WebbDirector of Policy and External Communications,
Royal London
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Gregg McClymontHead of Retirement Savings, Aberdeen Asset
Management PLC
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7 Nations Pensions Reforms
10 June 2016
Gregg McClymont, Head of Retirement Savings Aberdeen Asset Management
Lessons for the UK?
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Robust and effective pensions system Recent reforms encouraging Further intervention needed
CanadaSome of the world’s leading public-sector schemeswith huge economiesof scale and expertgovernance.But also innovatingin Collective DC:New Brunswick developed risk sharing model harnessing scale, expertise, and clarity as to the security of the pension promise.
NetherlandsMarket leader in DB and collective DC. Sector-wide occupational schemes with scale and expertise. Strong but weakening commitment to collective risk sharing cross generations.
UKSignificant improvements in UK pensions system in recent decades, particularly with auto-enrolment. But with the UK workplace system so fragmented there are issues of scale, governance and transparency.
GermanyDemographic pressures leading to reduction in state pension coverage. Third pillar retail pensions have been promoted heavily by Government. But renewed attention now on scaled occupational second pillar schemes as more efficient way of delivering non-state pension income.
SwedenQuasi-nationalized system with high contribution rates. State uses its purchasing power to drive down costs of fund management in mandatory second pillar. Occupational schemes organised on sector wide basis. State monopoly annuity provider.
PolandA cautionary tale of pension privatisation – in 1999 switched from single pillar state organised DB to multi-pillar DC with privately managed second pillar. Costs were higher and returns lower than modelled. Govt u-turn restored status quo ante.
AustraliaPioneer of compulsory DC workplace savings in large well-governed pension schemes with escalating contribution levels. But concern growing at failure to translate large balances into guaranteed retirement income streams.
UK
GermanyPoland
SwedenNetherlands
Australia
Canada
International pension reformOur assessment of country pension provision based on the following factors: Scale, Governance, Transparency and Cost
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International pension reform
Robust and effective pensions system Recent reforms encouraging Further intervention needed
Our assessment of country pension provision based on the following factors: Scale, Governance, Transparency and Cost
CanadaSome of the world’sleading public-sector schemeswith huge economies of scaleand expert governance.But also innovating in Collective DC: New Brunswick developed risk sharing model harnessing scale, expertise, and clarity as to the security of the pension promise.
Canada
For professional investors and financial advisers only – not for use by retail investors
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International pension reformOur assessment of country pension provision based on the following factors: Scale, Governance, Transparency and Cost
NetherlandsMarket leader in DB and collective DC. Sector-wide occupational schemes with scale and expertise. Strong but weakening commitment to collective risk sharing cross generations.
Netherlands
Robust and effective pensions system Recent reforms encouraging Further intervention needed
For professional investors and financial advisers only – not for use by retail investors
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International pension reformOur assessment of country pension provision based on the following factors: Scale, Governance, Transparency and Cost
GermanyDemographic pressures leadingto reduction in state pensioncoverage. Third pillar retail pensionshave been promoted heavily by Government. But renewed attention now on scaled occupational second pillar schemes as more efficient way of delivering non-state pension income.
Germany
Robust and effective pensions system Recent reforms encouraging Further intervention needed
For professional investors and financial advisers only – not for use by retail investors
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International pension reformOur assessment of country pension provision based on the following factors: Scale, Governance, Transparency and Cost
SwedenQuasi-nationalized system withhigh contribution rates. State uses its purchasing power to drive down costs of fund management in mandatory second pillar. Occupational schemes organised on sector wide basis. State monopoly annuity provider.
Sweden
Robust and effective pensions system Recent reforms encouraging Further intervention needed
For professional investors and financial advisers only – not for use by retail investors
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International pension reformOur assessment of country pension provision based on the following factors: Scale, Governance, Transparency and Cost
PolandA cautionary tale of pensionprivatisation – in 1999 switched from single pillar state organised DB tomulti-pillar DC with privately managed second pillar. Costs were higherand returns lower than modelled.Govt u-turn restored status quo ante.
Poland
Robust and effective pensions system Recent reforms encouraging Further intervention needed
For professional investors and financial advisers only – not for use by retail investors
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International pension reformOur assessment of country pension provision based on the following factors: Scale, Governance, Transparency and Cost
AustraliaPioneer of compulsory DC workplace savings in large well-governed pension schemes with escalating contribution levels. But concern growing at failure to translate large balances into guaranteed retirement income streams.
Australia
Robust and effective pensions system Recent reforms encouraging Further intervention needed
For professional investors and financial advisers only – not for use by retail investors
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International pension reformOur assessment of country pension provision based on the following factors: Scale, Governance, Transparency and Cost
United KingdomSignificant improvements in UK pensions system in recent decades, particularly with auto-enrolment. But with the UK workplace system so fragmented there are issues of scale, governance and transparency.
UK
Robust and effective pensions system Recent reforms encouraging Further intervention needed
For professional investors and financial advisers only – not for use by retail investors
Where next forRetirement Income?
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Douglas Anderson, Partner, Hymans Robertson
Andrew Tully, Pensions Technical Director, Retirement Advantage
Gregg McClymont, Head of Retirement Savings, Aberdeen Asset Management PLC
Steve Webb, Director of Policy and External Communications, Royal London
Where next for RetirementIncome - Panel
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Baroness Sally GreengrossChief Executive, ILC-UK
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