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National Fire Protection Association
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Phone: 617-770-3000 • Fax: 617-770-0700 • www.nfpa.org
M E M O R A N D U M
To: NFPA Technical Committee on Fire Pumps
From: Elena Carroll, Administrator, Technical Projects
Date: February 6, 2014
Subject: NFPA 20 First Draft TC FINAL Ballot Results (A2015 Cycle)
According to the final ballot results, all ballot items received the necessary affirmative votes to pass ballot.
32 Members Eligible to Vote
3 Not Returned (Boogard, LaRose, Petrus)
23 Affirmative on All Revisions
4 Affirmative with Comment on one or more Revisions (Aaron, McGrath, Nasby, Victor)
6 Negative on one or more Revisions (Fuller, Leicht, Nasby, Pennel, Stewart, Victor)
0 Abstentions
The attached report shows the number of affirmative, negative, and abstaining votes as well as the explanation of
the vote for each first revision.
There are two criteria necessary for each first revision to pass ballot: (1) simple majority and (2) affirmative 2/3
vote. The mock examples below show how the calculations are determined.
(1) Example for Simple Majority: Assuming there are 20 vote eligible committee members, 11 affirmative votes
are required to pass ballot. (Sample calculation: 20 members eligible to vote ÷ 2 = 10 + 1 = 11)
(2) Example for Affirmative 2/3: Assuming there are 20 vote eligible committee members and 1 member did not
return their ballot and 2 members abstained, the number of affirmative votes required would be 12. (Sample
calculation: 20 members eligble to vote – 1 not returned – 2 abstentions = 17 x 0.66 = 11.22 = 12 )
As always please feel free to contact me if you have any questions.
NFPA 20 (A2015) FIM-AAA First Draft Ballot Final
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 27
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 2
Hansford Stewart A.11.4.4 recommends that dimension be 10" above the fill cap on the fuel
tank which is dimensioned @ 12" minimum above the tank. The
proposed change is not consistant with our annex material.
James S. Nasby I agree with Hansford Stewart's reason for his Negative Vote. Hopefully
this can be resolved in the 2nd round.Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
FR-149, Global Input, See FR-149
FR-148, Global Input, See FR-148
Results by Revision
FR-147, Global Input, See FR-147
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
FR-1, New Section after 3.3.38.10, See FR-1
FR-128, Chapter 2, See FR-128
FR-150, Global Input, See FR-150
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 28
Affirmative with Comment 1
Jennifer A. McGrath Point 8 in the committee statement indicates that the term "if applicable"
was to be added to the pressure maintenance pump information because
pressure maintenance pumps are not always provided. The term "if
applicable" is not found in the first revision language for item (19).
Negative 0
Abstain 0
FR-26, Section No. 4.2.3.1, See FR-26
FR-4, Section No. 3.3.57.2, See FR-4
FR-3, Section No. 3.3.41, See FR-3
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
FR-7, New Section after 4.5.1.1, See FR-7
FR-6, Section No. 4.3.4.2, See FR-6
FR-5, Section No. 4.3.3.3, See FR-5
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
FR-10, Section No. 4.11.1, See FR-10
FR-9, New Section after 4.7.7.3.2, See FR-9
FR-8, Section No. 4.6.5.3, See FR-8
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 27
Affirmative with Comment 1
Michael E. Aaron Wouldn't extra hazard group 1 have been sufficient?
Negative 1
James S. Nasby No good reason has been given to show that an electric fire pump is any
sort of a fire hazard. Further, since water and electricity don't mix well, I
believe that the electricity should have the higher priority. Sprinkling a
running fire pump is likely to cause the cessationces of all fire water being
delivered by said pump.Abstain 0
FR-12, Section No. 4.12.1.3, See FR-12
FR-29, Section No. 4.12.1.1, See FR-29
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
FR-121, Section No. 4.13.5, See FR-121
FR-14, Section No. 4.12.8, See FR-14
FR-13, New Section after 4.12.5.1, See FR-13
FR-30, Section No. 4.12.2.1.1, See FR-30
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
FR-19, New Section after 4.18.1.3, See FR-19
FR-98, Sections 4.15.9.1, 4.15.9.2, 4.15.9.3, 4.15.9.4, 4.15.9.5, See FR-98
FR-16, New Section after 4.15.1, See FR-16
FR-15, New Section after 4.14.4.1, See FR-15
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 28
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 1
James S. Nasby This text in unenforceable since no definition is given for "active
emergency requirements for the pump to run". Instead, restate in terms
of manual or automatic testing.Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
FR-35, Section No. 4.19.2, See FR-35
FR-22, Section No. 4.19.1.2, See FR-22
FR-75, Section No. 4.18.7.2 [Excluding any Sub-Sections], See FR-75
FR-21, Section No. 4.18.7.1, See FR-21
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
FR-33, New Section after 4.19.2.4, See FR-33
FR-32, New Section after 4.19.2.4, See FR-32
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 28
Affirmative with Comment 1
James S. Nasby The text doesn't address the case of extant installations having said
retrofit backflow prevention devices. This is the vast majority of extant
jobs in many, if not all states in the U.S. Some number of these do, in fact,
reduce the pump output below the factory pump curve and accepted
output pressure at, or near, full flow. What about these extant jobs?
Negative 0
Abstain 0
FR-36, New Section after 4.27.4.5, See FR-36
FR-23, Section No. 4.26, See FR-23
FR-25, New Section after 4.25.1, See FR-25
FR-34, New Section after 4.19.2.4, See FR-34
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
FR-61, New Section after 4.30.1, See FR-61
FR-97, Sections 4.29.9, 4.29.10, See FR-97
FR-124, Section No. 4.28, See FR-124
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
FR-39, Section No. 4.31, See FR-39
FR-134, Section No. 4.30.4.2, See FR-134
FR-38, Section No. 4.30.4.1, See FR-38
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 27
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 2
Terry L. Victor FR 44 (5.5) page 59 and FR 137 (9.3.1) page 73 both deal with the same
subject (standby power for electric driven pumps in high rise) but they
don't agree. One recognizes a diesel pump as a backup, the other does
not. One requires electric backup where the building is above the fire
department's capability to pump, the other specifically deletes this
language.James S. Nasby I agree with Terry L. Victor's reason for his Negative Vote. Hopefully this
can be resolved in the 2nd round.Abstain 0
FR-44, Section No. 5.5, See FR-44
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 26
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 3
David B. Fuller This section applies to "Very Tall Buildings" where the building height
exceeds the pumping capacity of the fire department apparatus. While I
agree that in certain circumstances the refill rate being equal to the fire
protection demand can be difficult to achieve, the proposed change to an
8 hour refill time is not sufficent to ensure a reasonable refill rate to
maintain building fire protection. In most cases the water supply duration
requirement will be 30 or 60 minutes total. Going from a 1:1 to a 1:16 or
1:8 refill ratio leaves the building without fire protection for far too long
in context of a very tall building where evacuation times are lenghthy
and/or protect in place stratgies are used and there is sole reliance on the
building fire protection water supply.
Gayle Pennel The original requirements were written to permit up to 1/2 of the total
stored demand to be out of service with the understanding that refill rate
would compensate for the storage out of service. Where the refill comes
from a standpipe below this can be accomplished at minimal cost (larger
refill pipe and valve from the top of a standpipe to a tank). For a ground
level tank the municipal supply must make up the refill. The originally
required refill rate is a minimal cost item that should apply to all high rise
building where evacuation is impractical.
James S. Nasby I agree with Gayle Pennel's and with David Fuller's reasons for their
Negative Votes. Hopefully this can be resolved in the 2nd round.
Abstain 0
FR-60, Section No. 5.6.1.4, See FR-60
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
FR-135, Section No. 7.1.1, See FR-135
FR-67, Section No. 6.5.1.1, See FR-67
FR-41, New Section after 6.2.2, See FR-41
FR-40, New Section after 6.2.1, See FR-40
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
FR-99, Section No. 7.5.1.8.1, See FR-99
FR-93, Section No. 7.2.3.2, See FR-93
FR-136, Section No. 7.1.2, See FR-136
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 27
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 2
Terry L. Victor Until the new annex details are provided and can be viewed for accuracy,
we can't vote affirmative on this revision.James S. Nasby I agree with Terry L. Victor's reason for his Negative Vote. Hopefully this
can be resolved in the 2nd round. Also, I can't tell what the proposed test
would be since my copy of this FR is blank. E.g.: The NFPA Report shows
no new or revised text.Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 28
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 1
James S. Nasby I'm voting no on clause 9.2.3.4.1. No good reason has ever been given to
relax the requirement for any upstream over current protective device
(fuse or circuit breaker) to carry motor locked rotor current indefinitely.
The proposed text will be very difficult for all AHJ's to enforce, whereas
the 600% requirement has been long standing and also has been shown
to be enforceable.Abstain 0
FR-146, Section No. 9.2.3, See FR-146
FR-120, Section No. 8.5.4, See FR-120
FR-45, New Section after 8.5.3, See FR-45
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 28
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 1
James S. Nasby The extant values in Table 9.5.1.1(a) allow LRA values of up to 640% of
motor FLA, whereas controllers and motor contactors are tested only at
LRA values of 600% of motor FLA. The proposed values in the table for
horsepowers below 5.0 are one code to high, except two for 1.0 Hp, since
they would allow LRA values of 710% (750% for 1.0 Hp) of FLA. Reducing
the maximum allowed codes by one would keep the maximum LRA values
down to 640% of motor FLA. The codes should be "L" for 1.0 and 1.5 Hp,
"K" for 2 Hp, and "J" for 3 Hp. For Table 9.5.1.1.1(c) the values should be:
"M", "M", "L" and "K" for 1.0. 1.5, 2 and 3 Hp respectively.
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
FR-49, Section No. 9.6.5, See FR-49
FR-102, Section No. 9.5.1.1, See FR-102
FR-137, Section No. 9.3.1, See FR-137
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
FR-126, Sections 10.5.2.1.1.1, 10.5.2.1.1.2, See FR-126
FR-52, New Section after 10.3.4.5.2, See FR-52
FR-51, Section No. 9.9.5, See FR-51
FR-50, Section No. 9.7, See FR-50
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
FR-57, New Section after 10.5.3.2.4, See FR-57
FR-58, New Section after 10.5.2.6.3, See FR-58
FR-55, New Section after 10.5.2.1.7.6, See FR-55
FR-53, New Section after 10.5.2.1.2, See FR-53
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 28
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 1
James S. Nasby No good reason has been given for eliminating automatic stopping for
pumps which are not sole source pumps. This will cause any number of
pumps to burn up, which is why Chicago requires automatic stopping of
ALL electric fire pumps. While I feel that sole source pumps should
require manual stopping, this seems excessive where multiple pumps are
involved. The net result will be to REDUCE the reliability of fire protection
on many of these cases rather than either maintaining or enhancing said
reliability.Abstain 0
FR-59, Section No. 10.5.4.2, See FR-59
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
FR-27, New Section after 10.10.10.3, See FR-27
FR-95, Sections 10.10.6.2, 10.10.6.3, See FR-95
FR-94, New Section after 10.10.1.3, See FR-94
FR-101, Section No. 10.8.2.2, See FR-101
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
FR-70, Section No. 11.2.4.2.6, See FR-70
FR-69, New Section after 11.2.4.2.6, See FR-69
FR-68, Section No. 11.2.4.2.3.1, See FR-68
FR-100, Section No. 11.2.3, See FR-100
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 27
Affirmative with Comment 2
Terry L. Victor We don't know what "horizontal orientation to the pressure source"
means. Also, this change was only made for Chapter 11 (diesel engines).
Wouldn't the issue also need to be written for electric motor driven
pumps too?James S. Nasby I agree with Terry L. Victor's reason for his A.W.C. Vote. I have the same
question regarding what the piping will look like. However, I don't agree
that this would also apply to Chapter 10 (electric motor driven pumps)
since no problems with these pumps and their pressure control was
submitted, or discussed at the FR meeting. Hopefully this can be resolved
in the 2nd round.Negative 0
Abstain 0
FR-72, New Section after 11.2.4.3.4.1, See FR-72
FR-28, New Section after 11.2.4.3.4, See FR-28
FR-71, Section No. 11.2.4.3.3, See FR-71
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Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
FR-103, Section No. 11.4.1, See FR-103
FR-78, Section No. 11.3.3, See FR-78
FR-77, Section No. 11.2.7.2.1.3, See FR-77
FR-73, New Section after 11.2.4.4.7.2, See FR-73
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Affirmative 27
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 2
Terry L. Victor There is no text shown for this proposed change, only a substantiation for
the change. Until the actual text is included we can't vote affirmative.
James S. Nasby I agree with Terry L. Victor's reason for his Negative Vote. My copy is also
blank (no new or revised text is shown). Hopefully this can be resolved in
the 2nd round.Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 27
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 2
Terry L. Victor Same problem as FR-79. There is no text shown for this proposed change,
only a substantiation for the change. Until the actual text is included we
can't vote affirmative.James S. Nasby I agree with Terry L. Victor's reason for his Negative Vote. My copy is also
blank (no new or revised text is shown). Hopefully this can be resolved in
the 2nd round.Abstain 0
FR-80, New Section after 11.4.2.6.3, See FR-80
FR-133, Section No. 11.4.2, See FR-133
FR-79, New Section after 11.4.1.2.8.3(B), See FR-79
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
FR-83, New Section after 11.4.4.3, See FR-83
FR-82, New Section after 11.4.4.2, See FR-82
FR-81, Section No. 11.4.3, See FR-81
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
FR-62, New Section after 12.3.5.3.3, See FR-62
FR-112, New Section after 11.6.4.2, See FR-112
FR-86, Section No. 11.5.2.5, See FR-86
FR-84, Section No. 11.4.4.6, See FR-84
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Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
FR-127, Sections 12.7.2.1.1.1, 12.7.2.1.1.2, See FR-127
FR-115, Section No. 12.4.1.6.1, See FR-115
FR-87, Section No. 12.4.1.4, See FR-87
FR-76, Section No. 12.4.1.3 [Excluding any Sub-Sections], See FR-76
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Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
FR-130, Section No. 12.7.2.7, See FR-130
FR-129, Section No. 12.7.2.6, See FR-129
FR-131, New Section after 12.7.2.3, See FR-131
FR-63, New Section after 12.7.2.1.2, See FR-63
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Affirmative 27
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 2
R. T. Leicht The proposed wording allows an automatic shutdown in one
circumstance even when the AHJ may decide that it must be manual. This
is a direct circumvent of the AHJ’s authority as defined in 3.2.2. Indeed,
there may be compelling reasons for automatic shutdown during
automatic testing and if the AHJ agrees, then so be it. However, if the AHJ
has other reasons to require it to be manually shutdown or if the
reasoning to shut down automatically is not compelling, the AHJ is still
the final word on accepting an installation. This could be remedied by
rewriting 12.7.5.2.1(1) as follows: (1) During automatic testing in
accordance with 12.7.2.7.when permitted by the authority having
jurisdiction
James S. Nasby No good reason has been given for eliminating automatic stopping for
pumps which are not sole source pumps. This will cause any number of
pumps to burn up, which is why Chicago requires automatic stopping of
ALL electric fire pumps. While I feel that sole source pumps should
require manual stopping, this seems excessive where multiple pumps are
involved. The net result will be to REDUCE the reliability of fire protection
on many of these cases rather than either maintaining or enhancing said
reliability.Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
FR-116, Section No. 14.1.1.3, See FR-116
FR-66, Section No. 12.7.5.2, See FR-66
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Affirmative 27
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 2
Terry L. Victor There is no text shown for this proposed change, only a substantiation for
the change. Until the actual text is included we can't vote affirmative.
James S. Nasby I agree with Terry L. Victor's reason for his Negative Vote. My copy is also
blank (no new or revised text is shown). Hopefully this can be resolved in
the 2nd round.Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
FR-117, Sections 14.2.6.2.1, 14.2.6.2.2, See FR-117
FR-91, Section No. 14.2.4.2 [Excluding any Sub-Sections], See FR-91
FR-90, Section No. 14.2.4.1 [Excluding any Sub-Sections], See FR-90
FR-89, New Section after 14.2.4.1, See FR-89
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
FR-106, New Section after 14.2.6.3.3, See FR-106
FR-105, Section No. 14.2.6.3.2, See FR-105
FR-104, Section No. 14.2.6.2.8, See FR-104
FR-114, Section No. 14.2.6.2.4, See FR-114
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
FR-11, Section No. A.4.12, See FR-11
FR-107, Section No. 14.2.7.3, See FR-107
FR-119, Section No. 14.2.6.4.6, See FR-119
FR-122, Section No. 14.2.6.4.5, See FR-122
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
FR-125, Section No. A.4.28.1.2, See FR-125
FR-31, Section No. A.4.20.1.2, See FR-31
FR-20, Section No. A.4.18.2.1, See FR-20
FR-123, Section No. A.4.17, See FR-123
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
FR-46, Section No. A.8.5.3, See FR-46
FR-139, Section No. A.8.5.2, See FR-139
FR-37, Section No. A.4.30.3, See FR-37
FR-92, Section No. A.4.30, See FR-92
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
FR-132, Section No. A.12.4.2.3(3), See FR-132
FR-113, Section No. A.11.6.4, See FR-113
FR-110, New Section after A.11.3.2.4.3.4, See FR-110
FR-108, Section No. A.9.3.2, See FR-108
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
FR-143, Section No. C.1.2.4, See FR-143
FR-142, Section No. C.1.2.3, See FR-142
FR-141, Section No. C.1.2.1, See FR-141
FR-140, Section No. C.1.1, See FR-140
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 29
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
FR-111, New Section after C.3, See FR-111
FR-145, Section No. C.1.2.8, See FR-145
FR-144, Section No. C.1.2.7, See FR-144
FR-109, Section No. C.1.2.5, See FR-109
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