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US-DPRK NEXT STEPS WORKSHOPJanuary 27, 2003 Washington DC

MIA Joint Recovery Ashton Ormes

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US-DPRK NEXT STEPS WORKSHOP January 27, 2003 Washington DC

Session 4 – Access & Information in the DPRK, What Works, What Fails

MIA Joint Recovery

Ashton Ormes

Department of DefenseDefense POW/ Missing

Personnel Office

DE

FE

NS

EPR

IS

ONER OF WAR/MISSING PERSONN

EL

OF

FIC

E

W

RJ

WRJ

• Estimated numbers of remains are in parenthesis

Apex (270)

Camp 5 (322)

Hungnam Cemetery (49)

Koto ri Cemetery (30)

Pyongyang Cemetery (185)

Suan Camps (220)

Death Valley Camp (233)

Sinhung (100)

Twiggae (244)

Yudamni (199)

Unsan (285)

Kuryong (176)

Kujang (276)

Kunuri (404)

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Valley #1 Camp (41)

DM Z (89)

Chosin Reservoir Area (1,079)

Unsan/Chongchon Area (1,559)

POW Camp Burial Sites (1,200)

Estimate of Remains of American Servicemen in North Korea

Battle of Unsan & Battle of Unsan & Chongchon RiverChongchon River

Unsan CountyUnsan County

Changjin CountyChangjin County

North Korea• January 2002 Negotiations

– No Agreement Reached

• June 2002 Negotiations– Agreement Reached for 2002

• Three Operations:– First JRO: Jul 20-Aug 20

– Second JRO: Aug 24–Sep 24

– Third JRO: Sep 28–Oct 29

• Areas of Operations:– Unsan & Changjin Counties

*Total includes 208 remains unilaterally returned by North Korea between 1990-1994.

Field Operations in Korea

North KoreaCY 2002 JRO Results• 1st JRO

– Completed Aug 20– Area of Operations: Unsan County & Chosin

Reservoir– Remains Recovered: 7

• 2nd JRO– Completed Sep 24– Area of Operations: Same– Remains Recovered: 8

• 3rd JRO– Completed Oct 29– Area of Operations: Same– Remains Recovered: 11

• Total Remains Recovered to date: 386*

Standards of Information and Access

Types of Access and Information Sought in DPRK

• Estimated numbers of remains are in parenthesis

Apex (270)

Camp 5 (322)

Hungnam Cemetery (49)

Koto ri Cemetery (30)

Pyongyang Cemetery (185)

Suan Camps (220)

Death Valley Camp (233)

Sinhung (100)

Twiggae (244)

Yudamni (199)

Unsan (285)

Kuryong (176)

Kujang (276)

Kunuri (404)

-

Valley #1 Camp (41)

DM Z (89)

Chosin Reservoir Area (1,079)

Unsan/Chongchon Area (1,559)

POW Camp Burial Sites (1,200)

Estimate of Remains of American Servicemen in North Korea

Transactions Over Time

About 28-29 Nov 1950

24 Oct 2001

CONCLUSIONS

Know What You Want

Know Your DPRK Interlocutors

Be Persistent and Consistent