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DONALD R. ;R7MXT May 27, 1966 San Diego 105-6013 NIADRE 'ARTA LW'S BAK l'01?) Pn\rc u File 01 -- Dik,s3 2M 3 C. 5srs■ lec r - 111 - I C11- T4 S.i■)1t, SAN DIEM 105-1470n 0', 6i- 6 3 r.licRoFiLmao Z4 1966- w Doe. Mielle0. 3; F'^e"*.f SECRET GRI:P 1 Exclude: • • • 1.:7. 7• +. 7,c I dOi.ncr. . tete, a-4•Ies. u•v: O S CAI L'EPAR1 IAEA 1 JUSTICE FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION f 3 2.72.9.37,0 Caw lot Roped of: Dater Plaid OffIc• File Tiflis Garadert Synopsis: 1 - immigratim and Naturalization Service, SiZRET San Diego (REGISTERED) INTERNAL SECURITY CE To,„„ f l'kti REGISTRATION ACT - FRANCE r Qa o s c ,AA Additional eMployere and acquaintances of subject contacted in San Diego, none have knowledge of any French Intelligence connections of subject. , a1STAV J. BUMEOVSKY, San Diego, advised subject is member of Los Angeles Branch ofICKBK, a Hungarian Army Veterans organization. Dr. MICHAEL A. KANNAS reinterviewed at Pomona, California, advised that PAUL HODOSY-STROBL, • Woodside, California,.former General . of Police in Hungary and Chief of MEM can verify subject's connection with French Intelligence. KANNAS furnished names of persons who would know address of DEMO I. BEM. Also furnished names of Persons in Canada and France who could furnish information regarding subject. No record of employment of subject by Department of Army, U. S. Corps of Engineers, Morocco Engineer Area, located at Federal Records Center, St. Louis, Missouri. - P - DETAILS: AT SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA On April 20, 16, STEVE MUHIBACHER, 3722 Dove Street, was interviewed at his place of employment, Fred S. Dubin Associates, ThIlka cunlent contains neither recosanendationn nor conclusions el the FBI. It Is the property of the FBI and Is loaned to you agency; lt and its contents are not to be their/hated outs ld• Y our arl•nay• C .3 FOR COORDINATION D ECLASSIFIED AND RELEASED BY CENTRAL I NTELLIGENCE AGENCY SOURCESME THODSEXEMPT ION 3021 NAZI WAR CRIMES DISCLOSURE ACT DATE 2006

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Page 1: BEM. ANDRE_0012.pdf · SD 105-601e 7911 Herschel; La Jolla. ee advised he ree suject whlle ::eth were employed by Prar•: L. 7.1epe and Associates and he hes eetn subject oceasionally

DONALD R. ;R7MXTMay 27, 1966

San Diego 105-6013

NIADRE 'ARTA LW'S BAKl'01?) Pn\rc

u File 01

--Dik,s3 2M 3

C.

5srs■ lec r- 111 - I C11- T4 S.i■)1t,

SAN DIEM

105-1470n

0', 6i- 6 3

r.licRoFiLmao

Z4 1966-

w Doe. Mielle0. 3;

F'^e"*.f

SECRET

GRI:P 1

Exclude: • • • 1.:7 . 7• +. 7,c IdOi.ncr. .

tete, a-4•Ies.

u•v: O S CAI L'EPAR1 IAEA 1 JUSTICE

FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION f3 2.72.9.37,0

Caw lot

Roped of:

Dater

Plaid OffIc• File

Tiflis

Garadert

Synopsis:

1 - immigratim and Naturalization Service, SiZRETSan Diego (REGISTERED)

INTERNAL SECURITY CE To,„„ f l'kti

REGISTRATION ACT - FRANCE r Qa o s c ,AA

Additional eMployere and acquaintances of subject contacted inSan Diego, none have knowledge of any French Intelligenceconnections of subject. ,a1STAV J. BUMEOVSKY, San Diego, advisedsubject is member of Los Angeles Branch ofICKBK, a HungarianArmy Veterans organization. Dr. MICHAEL A. KANNAS reinterviewedat Pomona, California, advised that PAUL HODOSY-STROBL, •Woodside, California,.former General . of Police in Hungary andChief of MEM can verify subject's connection with FrenchIntelligence. KANNAS furnished names of persons who wouldknow address of DEMO I. BEM. Also furnished names of Personsin Canada and France who could furnish information regardingsubject. No record of employment of subject by Department ofArmy, U. S. Corps of Engineers, Morocco Engineer Area, locatedat Federal Records Center, St. Louis, Missouri.

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DETAILS: AT SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA

On April 20, 16, STEVE MUHIBACHER, 3722 Dove Street,was interviewed at his place of employment, Fred S. Dubin Associates,

ThIlkacunlent contains neither recosanendationn nor conclusions el the FBI. It Is the property of the FBI and Is loaned toyou agency; lt and its contents are not to be their/hated outs ld• Y our arl•nay•

C .3 •

FOR COORDINATION

D ECLASSIFIED AND RELEASED BY

CENTRAL I NTELLIGENCE AGENCYSOURCESME THODSEXEMPT ION 3021

NAZI WAR CRIMES DISCLOSURE ACT

DATE 2006

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7911 Herschel; La Jolla. ee advised he ree suject whlle ::ethwere employed by Prar•: L. 7.1epe and Associates and he hes eetnsubject oceasionally since then at the Hungaan House inBalboa rank. Fe ctatsel eeblect is about thirte years elderthan he and Qley ee noi associate closely; nowe-,er, he neecome to know subj,ect fairly well during their employmenttogetl-r. Oub)ce t. inde-ated he had been ar. efficer In theHungalein Army, that he left Hungary in 1945 and eeehe aeoetten years in France, and eubsequently sevelee years en Algeriaworking fel- a ereneh eomeany. Subject had ineicatsd he divorceehis wife in earls, Franee; and that she had left hia when he wasin poor financial eondition.

MUHLBACHER stated he had no knowledge as to Whethersubject had iegrewarked for. the French Government or had . belongedto any political organizations in France or in the United States.He stated subject i.e very Much opposed to Communism and heconsiders subject to be a gentleman, a very hard worker and ephysical culture enthusiast. He stated he feels subject wouldbe a loyal United States citizen should he be allowed to becceea citizen:

MUHLBACHER stated subject had indicated to him theehe has Hungarian friends in France and that on one occasionabout three yeara- ago MUHLBACHER visited ineUrellee_Franee, andsaw seeeral of BAK i e friends, one of whom was a HungarianWho had lost everything to the Communists prior to leavingHungary. MUHLBACHER did not recall the names of theseindividuals.

On April L2, 1356, Mrs. MARGARET DOLLAR, Secretary,Tucker, Sadler and Bennett, 2411 Second Avenue, advised recordsof that company indicate that ANDRE BAK was employed as anengineering draftsman from Y:arch 23, 1364 to June e; le54.During thie time, ne reside at 351 West Robinson, Mn Deeee.

On April 22 ; leh; Mr. EDWIN M. BENNFTT, Partner aneChief Fr7!rer, Tecker, eaeler and Bennett, advised subjectwas •eretnated in his eositicn as engineering draftsman becaeseof a language ercblem eee eeeause his training was somewhatdifferent from the ccAerany eethod of drafting and there was aproblem in trying to retreln subject. He stated he had no

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knowledge ce: sebleet i c Weereund and that subeleet tee fteeerdiscussed his raet with etENNETT. He state.] he had neve:, eeceivedany information inz.,icat subject had any present or preerconnections Vete the 5:ver_t. Government or with any organieetions.

t. FAANETT sta !,ed he recalled that the day efteeBAK 'Ai's hieee! a ranJ., not recalled, telephened him to eeyhe ha. known :::%.bject in i.urc.ce and that he eae a relte!ele peesenand that he would reconztend him for the jell.

On May 2, 1:466: Mrs. PEARL MC MILAN, Bookkeeper,Precision, Incorporated - Irincess Homes, Incorporated, 2e30State Street, advised ter records show that ANDRE BELA RAZ,351 West Robinson Avenue, Social Security Number 148736-5264,was employed as a draftsmen from the end of July, 1964 to thesecond week in October, 1964. She had no personal recollectionof BAlse

Mr. JACK BURRIS. Supervisor, advised on the same date,he recalled BAK slightle but that since he was employed on:;.7;a short time he knew little about his background or hisviews. He reealled that SAX spoke poor English and there wa6a problem in communicating with him. He stated BAK termineeedhis job beeauee he felt he was not able to handle t:ie work.He recalledthat BAK nad indicated he haa previously worke.1for a eompany in Los Angles and that the work was veryexacting.. Mr. .BURRIS stated he was quite certain the nameof the company was Fateehild Aerial Photographers in isAngeles. .

On May ''e, 12r66, Mr. JOHN S. WANT, 351 West hetiesonStreet, advised he ha& :tenown ANTRE BAK for thirty years. Hestated BAK was formerly a Captain on the General Staff of theHungarian Army during W:!!Id 4ar II and that he, MAY,a Captain in the Hungarian Amy and was in the sate alvIse:e

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s BAK, although he wes m': on the General Staff. He sta:,:lo;AK was eaptured by the -reneh or the Americans and ',az. in a

i risoner ''f War an Jn ,7,,..-arta or in France. IVeNe: ees'captured in Bavaria and he remained in Germany at the. endof the war. He stated te: understood that BAK remained. inFrance after the war fhr tnree or four years, that i-1 Fpenteight or nine years .0.T.r., the United States Army cc, r:' s. c,f

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Engineers in Morocco during the construction of air bee.. Indsubsequently came to the United States. He worked for eomecompany in Newark, Ne7e Jeesey, and subsequently came to SenDiego. IVANY stated that PAK had a friend, '"C :;:;MAN fITCE, adraftsman who he believe:: worked for the same ecm-an y in Newark,New Jersey, where BA K nee: worked.

IVANY stated BAK had informed him his wifedivoned him in Prance and had remarried and BAK had onceindicated that he has a brother in Hungary, name unknown t3 IVAN7,and that this brother is a piano teacher.

IVANY stated that BAK had told him that while inEurope he was a member of the MHBK (Magyar Harcosok BajtarsiKozosSege), which IVANY stated is an organization of Fe.angarianArmy Veterans organized with the aim of helping the oldHungary. He stated this organization has branches in all tnelarge cities of the United States and that it collects money toaid Hungary With the aim of liberating it from Communist dominat.The headquarters in the United States is in Cleveland, Ohio,and the head of the organization in Cleveland is one ERNESTGODANY.

WARY stated he himself was formerly a member ofthe WM in Germany, but that he is no longer a member in.has he feels this orzantzation can accomplish nothing to aidHungary and the money the members contribute to the organizationis merely wasted in the operation of the organization. Hestated BAK has never meneeened being a member of MHBK in theUnited States and he do nnt know if there is a branch of thatorganization in San

IVANY etated wh en 7AK first came ee San Dtegclived in T7ANY I s nom, fc, 7,, or three weeks an . ,1 2 when hesubsequently moved to hie- rurrent residence, he had continuedto use IVAere l e addreee e: a eailing address for a perlod oftime.

IVANY state el has no knowledge that BAK ever workedfor the French Government at any time. He stated BAK ieanti-Communist and he .11. not return to Hungary at the end c.tthe war because of ti p ' i t?leke for Communism.

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e7STAV J. K.7=KY, 31e, e:eLteleenia, was interview .:t !7., ,y SAS Lee7Aele. I./Fe:LEY at his plaee ef employmer,retire:, eenvair Division, 5001 Keeseey!ec furnished the 1'r:11e:wing

He e:d6 keeee heeRE BAK since 19eel, having ateeneedthe same high zeheol In Eungary. BAK was three years aeseeof him in eehoel. BAK was born in Hungary, and serves eo theHungarian Army during World War II. He held the rare: of ,leeteeeand was on the eeneral etaft, being Chief ofStaff of c ef thearmortd divisions.

At the end of the war in 1945, BAK left Hungary ancwent to France. He lived„in—Earli4A4mice, for about fouryears becomin a Preneh .71itizen. During this time, Fie workedfOY-Ieve small manufacturers as a tool designer and drafteman,and was also self-employed for about a year or a year and a halfdoing the same type of work.

About 1949, BAK went to Morocco, where he worked ferthe United States Army eorps of Engineers as a civil engineerduring the tette they were constructing air bases in that country.It wal! BUJKOVSR.Y i s bellef that BAK was a grade r.1S-9 eivillanemployee at that time, an1 that he had received e seeerteclearance as an alien eeveltan employee.

When the air bases were completed, BAK remained inMorocco for a period of time working for a private Moroccanfirm as a draftsman. When Morocco became independent, itbecame Increasing .y dift:eelt for foreigners to obtain employmenethere and BAK derided te •:C.Te to the United States to seekemployment. He had a frieri, a Colonel FELAYork City, who heltee eee -one to this country in August, leee,and helped hie seeere eepleement initially as a draftsman .1.7firm in Newark, No:' PAK lived with SOMOSFUTI for aperiod n f. time ehen h e 1:1r7-t errived in this ceentre. FOMOSKTJTIis now r,, rloyel by elaek ene Associates, a highway end bridgeconstruete.on comp,Inv, eee York City.

BAY. was net •.::17.1,..)larly happy in Neweee, hecorresponded vtth ':17:rn:";.Y regarding eomin gth': west eeast,

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On E,Street, Del !ear, ealifR. BELMONT an FeWARDGeneral Dynamies eore:Villa Road, at eeL.,h tinformation:

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and eventeally caee tr :deg°. BUJKO7E717 enstree.e.-Alin getting him .zarious ,:lebs in San Diego ae a leeftsmae; owever,it was difficult to find r:ermanent work in this rield ,anDiego, and BUJ=SKY eventually persuaded him to try learotna anew line of work. He eventeally convinced :erk he havea good chance at permanent employment in cereokter eedgrame4ng,and 111\. took a trainieg ',eurse in this field. '..7e:nof th.i course, B1.7JR:.VSKe was instrumental in eeiting eim aas a computer pregraemer at the First National Bank in 3anDiego.

With regard to any ties BAK may still have in Telj,Firy,BWKOVSKY stated he knows BAR has a Irother, name unknown, illHungary. BAK never got along well with this brother, who is apianist and was formerly a concert pianist, and has a typicalartistic temperament, which BAK never understood. BUJKCVSY1said he is not aware that BAK has any other relatives 1.11. that-country. He stated BAK's wife divorced him in France and shestill lives In France and has remarried. It was BUJKCVSKY'sbelief that BAK eas deeply hurt by the divorce, and he cl-_- 4br,t.:.that he would again marry.

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HU:7=SK1 stated that insofar as he knows, BAK neverdid any intelligense work for the Hungarian Army or for the -French Government, or for any other government. -He steee.: !'s

likewi',e had no knowled ge that BAK had every perforase a:, •voluntary work for the French Government,, such as acting asinterpreter in the interview of Hungarian refugees. He expressedthe opinion that being a refugee himself and a newcomer to France,the French would not be likely to trust him to the extent ofutilizing him in that e araetty, particularly as he had come froma country which fought against France during the war.

BU.7KriTSKY statel he is aware of the fact t:Ata member of the Los Angeles- branch of the MHBK, which in Englieeis known as the )SHV or the oollegial Society of HungarianVeterans in th nnieee E4-7., res of America. This organLea•ien iea recogreoe74 erganieate!e In the United States and has itsheadquarters in Cleve1er5, nhio, and ,its alm_isethe_lierationof Hungary from nommunit control. BUjKOVSKY noted that hehimself had at One time teen asked to form a chapter in San Diego,but had not done FC t.,e?.92e he did not think there weee enoughpotential immr.e, arc! the actual accom7lifEmsr, vellz

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group is generally r:s)thing more than gettlug together aoodiscussing the old days. In the Army, he did not feel WN3worth bothering with. He stated most ofthe HungarianSan Diego know each ottv,r and that many of them belonm to theHouse of Pacific Relations, House of Hungary, located inBalboa Park, San Diego: where they can fraternize. BUJKTrKYsaid 'e himself was rresident of the House of Hungary forthree years.

• With regard to 31AK's personal traits, BUJKOVSKYstated he considers him to be a man of great integrity ancicharacter, and he regards hil,; very highly. As to hlsbeliefs, he noted that BAK had apparently lived , in France longenough to acouire. some O.P-the-TViiiati RaItioal-vieis, and .6"AKhas indicateChe approves of leneral_DE_GAULI4 and believesDE GAULLE is 40zig_lubtt - He stated that BAK, like so manyHungartalrEatliees, clings to the belief that Hungary may againbecome as it was before coming under Communist control, and heretains a degree of loyalty to this old Hungary. He stated Lefelt certain BM has not come under any Communist influence,and he has no knowledge that BAK's brother is under Communistinfluence or has attempted to influence BAK.

BUJKOVSKY stated he has frequent discussions with BAKon the3e smatters, trying to convince BAK that .things will neveragain be as they were in the old Hungary, and he feels he ismaking some headway with him. He stated BAK was quitediscouraged when he was having difficulty finding .work, butappears to be cults happy in his present job.

BUJKOVSKY stated, in conclusion, that he had neverheard of anyone tamed DEZSO RENY°.

AT POMONA, OALIERNIA

The following in . :estigation was condia:ted by SA WILLIAMV. SCRU(nS, on April 2 *66:

MII;HAEI KANNAS, psychologist, PacificState Hospital, advis. ANDREW BAK was openly a representativeof the MHBK. BAK's parlpation in the MHBK can te verifiedby his former boss and ,:hief of the MHBK, PAUL HODOSY-STROBL,

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3763 Wocdsi•c eleee•l:e, ealifornia, who eee'ks fee eSociety of the Ireeieee Lioee.

HOD)S7-STReDL eas a former general of police inHungary during 1544 - l'; rier to becoming •hief of tne AHDK.HOMY-STROBL atte2zitej 1,r, immigrate to the theLeed States, hethad t, go to'2 .ele tn=tead. One of HOP)SY-SIBL I s deeuie:,eeeswas s- ecessfee In LeceLgeatieg to the United States art _LauerHODOS1-STROBL WaS aeeeeted through his daughter's efforte.

Dr. e.ANNAS ajvissd, if he will, HC7:0SY-STRCBL zenverify that BAK was a Hungarian staff °Mee:: who late wesconnected with the ?DM and a:sc his connection with the etetnenIntelligence.

Dr. leANWAS advised that he does not know anyone einein the United States who could furnish any information in thismatter but there are two persons presently residing in Canadawho knew BAK and could furnish information conc.erning Aim, ifthey will. He advised these individuals are LESLIE JATIS andSTEVEN MANY of Mcntral. Quebec,- Canada.

Dr. KANNAS advieed that BAK was replaced by PETaiBREZNAY, who was last lenc:En to be residin g in Paris, Prance,and hE could furnieh infermation concerning PAZ, if he sodesires.

Dr. , K. INNAS advised that DELZO I. PErve visited inthe Los Angeles area during July or August, 195 and while inthe Los Angeles area he •ontaeted JOHN EROS, 16666 RadiantCourt in Covina, California. He advised that BENY0 was visetedat EROS' residence ty JCZSEP PAPP, 4031 North Walnut, BaldwinPark, California. Dr. YANNAS advised that he was requested tostop by EROS' residence to sea BEM and while he wa3 atresidence, FAIT stoppee in and from conversation tt was ou6that both EROS ani FAFF knew PENY0 well. He advised he is of tneopinion that EReS cr PAFI coold furnish information concerningBENYO's exact resideree in 'Inited States, if they will do ee.

Dr. 1‘:WAS that while BENYO was in Los Angeleshe also visited FERENC', ::ZENE, who lives somewhere in Los Angeles,and undoubtedly he weelu te the only such person listed in the Lee

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Angeles telere--. raj-,:ised that .....e LT •E elcfurnish inforatic,n BENO's whb:::.1t5, ifwill.

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invsstigatien was ,,oedeJ. ke,e,1966 y SA LE-

KATHERINE YeRIJIYA, 4131 Morning Star Drive, HuntingtonBeach: advise-A that se ?mew subject as a tenant in 1 ,.?62 or1963, while sht; was f .€ . 11:_ kz at the Elliott Arms Apartments, 156eSeventh Avenue, San Pleg, ealifornia, which apartment hcezse,ohs owns.

She stated BAK resided at the Elliott Arms forappraUmately six months, lived alone, had no associates, wasnot regularly employel. BAY claimed to be studying La's aul Lte.fthe apartment at inrsgelar hours, always dressed in a suet,wearing a hat and :-arrying a brown briefcase. On the fewoccasions she talkei to him, he said he had been at t.studying.

said BAY. hal difficulty paying the rent and leftthe apartment for that reason. He had no car,and was a physicalculture enthusiast.

YURENKA stati she had no infermation indicating BAKhad any connection with any foreign government nor did he everdiscuss his paat with her. She stated her husband, STEVENYURINKA, an emloyee !;ouglas Aircraft, Long Beach, Oaliforrlia,would have even less erformation concerning BAK than she does.

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On May 7,nvest1gative (;leric .OSEIP. 0. EOEF.,JR. was advised by eesen ,' , e1 c.f the Federal Ree,ords center,St. LvAlz, ±!-:t an extensive search or r6(tor-ds onfile at that center to locate or identify any record ofFederal employment as a engineer during the period March1955 to Februwy 28, with the Department of the Army,United States Corps of Eraineees, Morocco Eegtneer Pea, fee one

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ANDRE BELA LOUIS BAY: als km:4m as Andrew iaZ b24,1912, at Kolosavar, Hwigary.

Fede7..al flnter personnel further advise.)that a search e..f the 0111 .11 Service Commissions' ServiceRecord Divisi r_%n ' d lecatcr files -at that facility failedindicate any prior Federal employment for the afensmentior,tindivival, suggesting “nnsibly the referencedpeozciemploylent was et a 4 local hire" nature, and rec. ,)r-,is pey..ta.iningto same would 171:obab1y te 1ated at the place of suet eaployment,

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