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bisiggis . •witopt TION REPORT , CONTROLLED AMMAN notona Aire. ' R1PORF , Das cirri ; 100. Or PNIES 4 1It iski . Negro .1::tvatOrt INFO. 2.4roh 1953 ft_OF . ' MS. 0 UMW MO% INIMINIMMI=1714=31111111=11111111111 .77 '. 71-=1:7"-- 15XX ' 7:::11nt 1 r EL mum L. F v7C2-'47;.17;11111111 . . Moot"' Of my+ soinii«1 of the Cabinet •Canibittee.isif . , ..r): Contioo 4 o8 Not flOio.t.tOolog of Abitio04 .4osii: Om sionaeote for the Iktional Safety Yore& (N11?), .2 riwiebit.ww:4„,:. seeeiinbing of weapons and aaneunittou reoelvef hy..the ItIr taiothe UnitON:,!.., Atatee. . • . ' .• • - -••)F-_, .., - Ch ' I roam dir3 . ' . :%.:Pvfmr •vz.:-: .eracitni . (IN: if illirgliWe of waspon. 4o4mts aotOno on terns of loan) .XAM:01thate No official terms. Loans are leads by tilted 'Ste in charge of the sarrieon posts.. (ITII , requeets terse for return of borrowed weapons.) NAJMVRAo &grew/int . & return of oneapone lost, or damagod.:- net Mot about repairs? -101X111111*: Sepaire - are the rosponeibility of the r: .• &insp. Negotiatiens are undii..why to boret rc: , . . twee for repairs? •: . •,, , . •.. *elided lit tbit .s. Unit '. - ..- NS Section 3(b) 2) Privacy lease NAZI WAR CRIMES DISCLOSURE ACT ( ueclassified and Approve ty.) fir:Kby the Central Intelligence ..tIn Relations Date: THIS IS UNEVALUATED . , . ReorVik the 18th malting by 040b.140 4. 11441 Gaildit":**14241.*f: - at the C• " tokylth* writ** eliWtobiod in-the official 01t. iseintEkee . iris 'eine' about - '. Parts ' - t,"0. f Ceti;

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Page 1: bisiggis •wito t TION REPORT - Central Intelligence Agency MASANOBU VOL. 2_0051.pdfFirst of all, as you are aware, Article Four, NSF Regulations, numerates the dykies of NSF. Me

bisiggis• .•witopt TION REPORT, CONTROLLED AMMAN notona

Aire.

• 'R1PORF

,

Das cirri ;100. Or PNIES •

41Itiski . Negro.1::tvatOrt

INFO. 2.4roh 1953

ft_OF. ' MS. 0UMW MO%

INIMINIMMI=1714=31111111=11111111111 .77 '.71-=1:7"-- 15XX '7:::11nt 1 r EL

mum L. F v7C2-'47;.17;11111111

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Moot"' Of my+ soinii«1 of the Cabinet •Canibittee.isif . ,

..r): Contioo4o8 Not flOio.t.tOolog of Abitio04.4osii:Om sionaeote for the Iktional Safety Yore& (N11?), .2 riwiebit.ww:4„,:.seeeiinbing of weapons and aaneunittou reoelvef hy..the ItIr taiothe UnitON:,!..,Atatee. . • . ' .• • - -••)F-_,..,-

Ch ' I roam dir3 . ' . :%.:Pvfmr •vz.:-:.eracitni . (IN: if

illirgliWe of waspon.

4o4mts aotOno on terns of loan)

.XAM:01thate No official terms. Loans are leads by tilted 'Stein charge of the sarrieon posts..

(ITII , requeets terse for return of borrowed weapons.)

NAJMVRAo &grew/int . & return of oneapone lost, or damagod.:- net Mot about repairs?

• -101X111111*: Sepaire -are the rosponeibility of ther: .• &insp. Negotiatiens are undii..why to boretrc:, . .

twee for repairs? •:. •,, • , . •..*elided lit tbit.s. Unit

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NS Section 3(b)2) Privacy leaseNAZI WAR CRIMES DISCLOSURE ACT ( ueclassified and Approve

ty.) fir:Kby the Central Intelligence..tIn Relations Date:

• THIS IS UNEVALUATED. , .

• ReorVik the 18th malting by 040b.1404. 11441 Gaildit":**14241.*f:-at the C• "•

tokylth* writ**eliWtobiod in-the official

01t. iseintEkee

. iris 'eine' about

• - '.Parts ' - t,"0.fCeti;

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to borrow newels or Artiple 29 of lims •

nr S At tree require' to alsn'a privet. oentraet withit enable .ouokraet?

10/. Z1151$ 400.4:epotskot va$ unmeoessory beoause this ass nethir.:& pasAspoi•ia:' •

is anAmply. Amording tie trtiale 29 of tbe Flailm0113.time oaptilisEroridt aeommenyany tornadoi*? or aossoilopot

voPit$, Wit rill 404 sonars( Is siphons* or a ocesideration.I'de not;t4i*lhe that . / acted contrary to tbo require:mato of

thst, yeati setts& sconetitutss a violation of tam FinenElal, law.- that Sam'gtve vie. scabies itirtheir @MAY Wore replyiog.

t iemesespesy ,tie the mat or a loan.Air an ottrosai Zes, 111,20 posh 3414.

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uppreaffiontreet epight. be anittod to ampadito' 1,10-emOnon seles:shosldettetatohbat third of'

Othey . #0000as miold maim! a 'mitt= eentra•t; ties Ow- •ge$0, Aepsee Oat t4. iso mess Of vlolatima of tbe ?toenail/ law. While

Ompet;, t eemetliMtiOstbeehl10 special tem*, and ether iM ilimv id &Ott .the stipet, l'uish to lnquire for my lemma orlithestioas WM* Mould

014101111,1111111,_0biaf . Of the lquismeot annum of WOns OolmalateS at•

--eniwparlieto ME-1,60 to $4, maihkied an tbe'standards inialrent44 . 111AINIAIMM .111.0001, /to. , SpiLlod!PS oins04011 neap, 1 eareime'that tbs•masS'amul4OSTS410$t/ voilh3? tmg.W,490,0:.(0. ,r-uiution ,

1200.000 COO Alspro quotod hy you emaludee the oó. 4t°'•

vein, dops4l not? : • •. , . .• - ow iummiwt.41.16.0,. F$111NRAI ie.. -•

Is Oils he en metimnto of tbs saymeliture fo empsndablmo ,i?oms tmvtas•llaskl pear: , • •• . : • F

MASAMML: Alt** our survey is not pt complete, the' fiver* iilep arluali 1,00,000,C00 to 14CO3000,000. • .

.01e%°'• '0St shoso:(Consittee umpbor)s Dome paws pprMsepen that hi adildalred• ••11/2117,Briroduct of tildoVendont Japan? No hove recently barroved Matt**,

under oantreat, I assume. Hoare let.oct to return them in theircrigionl •eenditica. In tbo saint of total loss, mfare obliged tolueseithist replicasof then. For pr perneonal reference, that do you estimate as tbe meet for re-storing a frigate to its original form in Japan?

MAXAMURA: Nemo of the injury inflicting weapons are owned by Anon. OuristS;islmoist* of vehicles cosennioation sets, it esters. ka for the *oats incurredin constructing a frigate, react construction coots have asokuttad to $2,5424000for a Fr (sit) and $552,400 for an I.5.(sic). However, I vulture to surmise thattheir present velem aro apprealmitely 1500,000,000 for a P? and 1150,000,000 foran LS.

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Ott: that is not pr question. Since we are obliged to return the frigate, in itsoriginal condition the replacement cost in the *vent of total loss would he sw,-orbitent. Parthenon., the frigates acquired are weather-beaton ships ready forretirement. Why woo 'the contract eado calling for a restoration to their arigiailmatitiat

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JEMMIYURki The contract deep not call for restoratiOn to their original condition.It Calla or restoration tote condition in which they were received.

OTA: In case of total loss what arrangements have been made to determine theiramount of depredation to d:duct from the construction price?

KAMM: Representatives of both countries are to meet and negotiate terms

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Since the leaders are not present today, let us postpone the details to a

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later date and conduct a brief questioning. First of all, as you are aware, ArticleFour, NSF Regulations, *numerates the dy kies of NSF. Me distinguishing feature ofthis article is the phrase "NSF will main'Ain the peace and order of our country".This phrase is not included in police rerulations. NSF is fulfilling a vital missionsimilar to the task which was entrusted to the former military of maintaining the peaceand order of Japan. However, in order f.:.r. the NSF, entrusted with this vital task, toexecute these duties stated in Article Four, I believe that it is axiomatic for themto follow a basic of:oration:a procbdure. I wish to inquire if !OF is or is not follow-ing such a procedure, and also whether or not the substance of the procedure is ex-

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fled from NSF Regulations.I. MAIM Nakoto (Chief, Safety Section, National 9afety Agency): We follow a basic.operational procedure.

,-- TSUJI: Is the organisation consistent with our defense plan?

TANGA: Yes.

TSUJI: According to mr observations, the organisation is consistent with our defenseplan. For example, the staff under CommissionapoRATASNI is organised similar to thatof an U.S. fibld army headquarters. Furthermore, although I am unfamiliar with thedetails, the organisation of the First and Third District Units of the Northern AreaForces is similar to that of a U.S. combat division. Do you feel that the organisationof the NSF staff end active forces as a replica of a U.S. field army serves the beet in- -tereste of Japan's peace and order?

YAMADA: I believe that the organisation is suitable as is.

TSUJI: Do you feel that the training is adequate for the purpose be which tar isdedicated?

TAMA: Tee.

From my observations, their tr.r..Lazi i...: directly contpary to the purpose for.:,-Which they vent °remised. For example, most of their time is devoted ie simulatedattacks against an foamy equipped like the.. Have you seen the : training schedule for

Special Vehicle Regiment stationed 'm Shim-Hachi which was listed in the !Asa'ibis training serves no purpose for maintaining peace and order in Japan. Do you foolthat the above training program is suitable?

, ,IARADA: Tee,

TSUJI: Have you observed their assault training?

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112041s What is ths mature of theirs/smolt training?

UNIDO They an training for the purposo of fulfilling their mission.

?Was Mir assault training oannot be taboos training in order to maintainpow, and order in Japan: 113t io following methods idontioal to D.3. battletestis.. Do you still insist that NSF As training ter the purpose ofmaidtatalsgssmac. and order in Japan?

YAMADA: us. -

?Was !Sonnet be iad it You feel khat an assault inoluding the amount oftire power utilisad by the U.S. is mossesry in order to quell a ComonietPiz uprisingwithin Japan.

WM: I will study your opinion.

JIs lbst is not VW °plaice. Do you believe that tactics similar to U.S.battle tactics are snitible?

WADI: fee.

MOM: Please address the chairman before speOcing to °these,

2430.1It 8r. ICAMIKIII, do you have the Some opinion as YAMADA?

KANIMODAs Previous tion was mad. of the Commetist Party but the torsoof 1130 is pot limited to the Doesonist Party.

Mils /Wording to Article Veer, the day of 1130 is to lointainsod order of s_ and to protect boon Would property whoiirmir the -.nomosikydemsmde: . is,it necessary to sideslip the tall of umiak! th*hisembessreeskstag.in order to assompliab their purpose? . . .

SAMINURAs internal distmemsnoes and riateers not limited to sititibiesimitinteg Wan "'lament *snag Japossernitiobals. Boy mgy arise isitdis:thiolobe! breiganatisiols. In an ectomWeasse taw possibility °tom Wong 'reColgtien similar to the one that ocoorikin Dpsin monot be 0.1000bNA*11. ;bppizals sea boa' ordinary cam*, but wo.aratipotbseising %riots sitsmatiesibttet5rey ossoar and gemming appropriate miaow's to motor thilke

IWO* WatW' I 'biliele that le * tarot* Item the perfonomotMA! Itskepihe Oman toilbing As rehearsal tor •

ether emits; Iwill pose the Omestiom directly to the ftiator.sp:g

ofl:pd_in ArtiOle Tour. a will ;mess tbd issue again after'a

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Olikeile4 tist the eammoots peesently podesesed by DOI aro adegssitiit. . ,•130121001At ?boyars not absolutely ontfiesiest but IsdeOuste foe thi One Wing.

/90.4s Do you feel thit the 20-to took paseessed by NW is nooses/Ay OM!aoses*lishing the obis/Atte,* stated in Article roar?

AAMiMORA: I feel thet the armament. poseeesed by 037 are exosessive it, theproieet peadeful °militias* prevails However, there remains the need to emedeskthis training to prepare toe the future. In that sense, I feel thatthe atimomistoere appropriate.

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WWI: It appears to me that yea are atteeptloi to doDllott• tho.2500roads.strried by 0.5. Division. Japan with her satroity of Oss pad eadóvaloped:

Vidal Mestmont at Whinolkohi. .X tee the . .heirs and obsereed-twe ;athlete with temperature/ hmeeiieterolik,ISO „ettontiod 111Watoloo woo ootAwdrallbonSb . devontl *idles p.rs i

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1WOJIs The 20.to tank is no notch against the 35-*GO Soviet talk. In tbeseep ofAsttation sy the Draminist Party and elbort ambverelve elements, theese of title ao.tus lank would :win roads and bridges. 35 • 36 ton tanks areseeded in order to es,* with an !maim by forelign enemy. Za the mutt ofanew attack from *thin, light armored tanks are nor* meltable. What is

'leer spiniom on the above?

WAICDOWIts I agree that elf la not properly armed. however, after doseemeldsration of existing auditions, I believe that present ariONM104, aremensasary and adequate. (TX: as good as can be expected ender exLetiMaecontiems) •

!WWI Aftoentrating in a smaller area an infantry *Gloppy poseessesAmehypes of genwrifles andcarbines. 24y use two different *WNW emesmition.Doyen °molder thet siteatioo practical?

diereente Se. We must alleviate this situation sr omnefectoring weapons withinJapes in the future.

Mat Aessrding to tor obseremtlens, types ad nuebers of the weapons smationedproilemAy depressed me Li being weapons salvaged fret the Americans. Whey meanfob* eutmeeed wawa, which are oonoidered elightlr tee eatable to junk, ko*sold study oirnaticsal oiroortaneos, terrain, rose network, physieal reatUree'tear trospe, our arms* and taottos, and preeemt our requests to the 04.aseerdinsly. MP mem* mike healthy progress by aosepting everything **Is-offered to It. What is your opinion?

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WANZNURir I *emir with your.vicen; act hops to direst q efforts In thatdirestice4 .

••IOWA: Axe yea willing and prepared to mike oonvIncdng reps* ti theVAL in order to bear out your efforts?

•talledlits Mo hieshisn placimgrepcsote for cartons it sod Dot petbemims cier.hads hid &empties sertblas that is offered to es.

IOW's Werth* have yea been aoomptieg special vehicles** gees insteaderr/ales:ties Use 0SUCCIMIL: I had looepted the 46441 *blase hemosme I fat ilat they weredembehle In odedmetios our prelemt tralkinginad. maneuvers.

• teat Demi intend to dentImme ntilbgbag two types of batOokar, borermaohime-sims, light issokiss4pos, and mortars, or doyen intend to mikeassroosiveregusets for only essential items?

KUIMURAs I an presently negotiating only foe eseential items, si yonhave

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deal:whet he seemed to have left for Shin-Machi for relaxation and apparentlywould not return until around 2400 hours. About 0300 hours, I visited thedispensary and again took their temporetures. Their fivers had not receded,roalled the doctor and he insisted that he hadikagnosed their conditions.The int,ients replied that their oases had not been diagnosed. Strangelyenough, there were no fever charts tensing on their bueks. How can weconfide our youths to NSF under these unobliging conditions?

PeCATO Tees (Chief, Peres:nu:1 Bureau, National Safety Agency); I am unfamiliar withIse incident related by you. I fully realise the responsibilities we owe to ouryouths. However, under the present circumstances, our sanitary organ is criticallyunderstaffed. Be are presently attempting to arrange a working agreement of 30M9

sort with the Ministry of Nalth and Welfare and various medical groups.Moreover, plans are under way to establish hospitals in Tekyo, Fukuoka, Sapporo,it aster: in accordance with the 1953 budget. r feel that the completion ofthaw plane will alleviate the reoccurance of a similar incident. In re theacquisition of other supplies, I intend to exert all oy efforts to createimproved sanitary conditions for the youths entrusted to our care.TSUJI: Who is the present head of the Sanitation School?LA s The st is presently vacant and the duties ars being handled temporarilyby TSUNO”

TTSUJI: A person callisdKNO previously held this post in addition to hisregular position, did Wri"vs?KATOs Yes. KANO is lead of the Staff School. Due to the difficultiessworn:tared in selecting a head for the Sanitation School, endelso because theSanitation School was located at the same site as the Staff School, KANO wasgiven the eoncurrent position until a Sanitation School tend could be ails:Illyappointed.

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TSUJI: If yen Van, siticernia,.:rinr ;intent to core the 11.1;. I -see no reason Ar.:_,..4"why amp or two osigtostep0eOsusts- -, eouldipit:_haealseen . founds,. Fu iurtbmbne-_-"'

' viewing the tonal - ,44.0;iistaired, IjiptliktbitLibeprovided with 3.03' bade iida F.keyint Hospital provide. 503;b•di;Iiidthi - • ,Klaiber Hospital also provides a vast member of beds. Houeisà, theee-siie .merely tuberculosis sanitariums and not general hospitals. New many patientsare presently- suunmehled lathes* hospitals?KITOs 144 are in possession of the above facilities as well as severalunpretentioes Installations in the various garrison areas. I nudism:tend thatover 100 patients are presently receiving treatment at Fukayana. I do notpossess accurate figures on the number of patients presently underpinstreatment at Marie.1SUJI: My investigation of Hario in the latter part of the past year revealedone patient. Furthermore, appeolmately 1000 tUbercularpatients were beingtreated at home. How do you account for the above?KATOs We are exerting every effort to establish collection facilities. It iscustomary to transfer all tubercular patients to Ocemstemma hospitals aid otherdesignated hospitals. However, when bed space is not available, we permitpatients to receive treatment at home by physicians selected by then.T8O41 Home affairs officials, police officials, regular am, officers, itcetera seem to dominate the NSF staff. Are former military personnel alsoemployed by the 0-1 Section and the proouremeat field?KATO: res. Former military personnel are being employed by the 04 Hectic*and procurement.

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TSUJI: Who are some of the ex-military permutel . prescitlyaNagolod byNone are listed in mY Palma file.

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an exrarmy Lt.. Co]. is assigned to G-1 as assistant 'section

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A ar Ake hp:Woe/tors seems to be supervised by a government official, with.tim'assiatent Superintendent and chief of staff positions held by the Army

. endikevyrespoOteLy. What is your opinion on this triereirste lanageeent?

4/0: We eel** our personnel on the basis of efficient operation.

UM; Co sae occasion when several hundred ox-military personnel rareearmarked to 'Oar. NSF service, a certain superintendent dithered all the officio:Psand instructed them as follows: °Cur nueber one enemy is the Comeanist Party.Our mumber.twe enemy is the ex-militarists. Soon a group of ex-militaristswill be arriving. We must cooperate in order to protect our leadership rights."Do you believe that we can establish an admirable NSF while such differencesexist Intel:en ea-militarists and internal affairs officials?

HATOs I believe that in order to build an efficient NSF answerable to the.people ls expectations, they must reconcile their differences and work in hanozny.

TSUJI, In that event', an error was made in selecting a superintendent who wouldgive each preposterous instructions. You yourself are disrupting pesos. Whatis the basis for considering coeilitarists as enemies?

Wags This is the first time I have heard of such insolence. It is difficult forms to answer your question at this meeting.

.1SDJI: According to wy investigations, MS of the rogimental commenders SO% ofthe district superintendents, and 7% of the section chide, the firstStaff are owlet* dilettantes. No wonder YOSHIDA claim that NSF is not a militaryorgaiisativel Doyen not feel that leis improper to select tog.; officials inacoordanos with civil service regulations?

HAIN Moor:lin to NSF NeguIntioos, theme who previously held the positions of'sr staff officers or guard officers are prohibited frmatmdng appointed asdirector general, assistant director, internal bureau senmdariats, and sectionchiefs and above of the various bureaus. However ox-ediitarists are notrestricted from of regimental commanders and below.

TSUJI: I have heard rumors of impropriety within NSF. For anmple, certaintop staff officers have been confiscating a portion of the food ration. Those

who have been discovered are conveniently rotated from post to post. Next,certain superintendents are reeved as having their mistressemosisdaging thepost canteens. A certain intermediate staff officer is said to have a girl-friend sanaging a restaurant. Local inhabitants protasis:that NSF persomnel areinept for battle but skillful in accumulating wealth. Resolute steps must be

„taken to safeguard the 830,000,000 yen NSF budget in order to prevent itsceilipeofroe4ithin. ORLAND Kal=shekls defeat was not

'00 4 st stretear.. It inn duo to'in4rmal7dedenoration.folfewinuanidenticalpeth?

RAM: I remAs that lack of discipline ii the singalarprevailing within the organisation.. J'ankdoint'avorytkingthe occurance of such incidents.

TSUJI: I cannot accept such a simple answer. I expect you to conduct an ineediateSlot-finding investigation. In addition, I believe that adjustments should bemade to conform to Article Four concerning Japan's defense plan, and to Item 1,Article 12, "In Re Basic Plan and Regulations for Guards." These adjustmmnti shouldbe made with NRP and the Autonomous Police for the purpose of maintaining mem andorder within Japan. Thus, you must learn to take pride in the various aspects ofNSF disposition, organisation; training, operations, et cetera.

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i has indicated that impropriety exists within XV. I feel thatahead not be treated lightly. I hope that the presentee or acs-

of Ishe alleged impropriety will be asarly revealed after the conclusion of- ,theresib inosetlattion.. •

HA100 I will determine the proper moodurt for conducting en investigationafter grasping the tree intentions of ISUJI t s abstract queetiming.

Is I believe that it is the responsibility of VW to annotesse the factsas seen 41111 possible. I request that the chairman admonish Mi7 and also Conduct• Wan* investigation in re these facts.

• IMIthas I shall comply.

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added tothe Oseeestlea Imo providing decorations for those who portent serlterioussermisse barthe rebore. Thom who performed unusual meritorious servimedaring thi'llao4spensee and Itusso-Japansee Were were awarded the Order ofthe deaden Cite. this pr000dure was emplelly abolished by Amerisen decree.We hope. to introduce an amendeent pit:sitting them to wear these awards antis.Ibmiver, as adequate procedure must be found for supplying the soma posies*that seeming/ them morels. Tetanus of the Sino-Japanese and Resse-JapenesaOhre are Me in the 60-70 age bracket. Would it be poesible for the chairmanto asostiate with the Minister of Transportation to -provide these veteranswith tree transportation in order to visit TAMZUWI Shrine to pay. their respectsto their fallen sonendesT

AMA. I shall er.37. If there are no other pachlams, we will Gentles* with •WM proposal to alma • portion of N37 roplations taeosseer.

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Milk lus estithlthi with the proposa,l to amend • pertain of the Ministry• at Meath and Welfare Theuitrmettea beislatioes.• , •

-. An gripe to steely the population problem has been established within•• Os Mistier at lisa/th and Welfare. Is this Ministry caPable of solving this

pesiden without 'Amami aid/•

: r cacaw 'amain Oise leadater of Welfare for Oeverneent Affaire)1 Ito loardettesnl one that wears baby* the Diet tram tit to to tinw.

realise that this problem csonst be solved by the efforts if %hie Idnislie7alone. We plan to obtain the opiates of the various Mstries end establish •

• a eseperstive argue to expedite a solution to the population problem. • 4Ff.

IIIPAKte I feel that the population problem is ea* moms othere-atattemalbirth control, emigration—that should De hasilled by as erase

i • ' experts assembled from ierious fields and ender the direst contra,of the Pries Minister's Offiee. Althettott I concur with the proposal for th•fermatas of snal'an °rpm, I believe that your proposal to establish this

, orn d.thin the Idolatry of Welfare is absurd.

00.011le I amour. However, since the population Ochlsol is under the 3eriedict-L_.

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• •-• •• ,mige-ogam imam independent organ. Althosgh the plan is ideal

iirionilikr efficient, tno organ cannot robotics effectively withoutlaugsnlatios. •

“Iggas' Itstee then Ummeider tbe existing organ ingererf wenn netsinesmuid with the basic problem in the future?

•grail g Atli refrain from predicting results for the distant future

the Ministry is not divertingStmosver, hews. of the nature of the prOblen,its amortise into associated fields. Associate ltUdotries are alsoforvering their own fields.lada; lulu wincing. of *nations with the ope that this organ willultimately expand into a responsible And effective machine.

PADt s . 4.s. there any 'Aber questions? --If not, the ...sting is adjournedfor.tmley. We will reconvene at 3.000 hours tomorrow.

fte meeting use adjourned at 11511 hours.