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Car seats, where comfort doesn’t meet owner expectations! Mac Reynolds, Ph.D. February 14, 2014

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Car seats have struggled for many years to live up to promise. This struggle is explained by a design process that leaves the seat out of interior design until all positions and geometry of the interior have been established. The result is unpredictable comfort, unexpected problems with vision of the dash and reach to controls and a general inability to sit in your preferred posture. A new tool is available to provide the manufacturers with seated driver models that represent the seated needs of the driver at the start of design. This presentation is the story of the current process and the tool that can fix it.

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Car seats, where comfort doesn’t meet owner expectations!

Mac Reynolds, Ph.D.February 14, 2014

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Auto seat design is expensive and unpredictable. It follows a 1960’s process

that is based on the position of one manikin.

US Patents: #6,840,125, #7,047,831, #7,347,114, #7,797,138

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Drivers use seats to position themselves to operate the car.

US Patents: #6,840,125, #7,047,831, #7,347,114, #7,797,138

Page 4: Car seats, where comfort doesn't meet owner expectations

When conditions change, sitting posture changes.

US Patents: #6,840,125, #7,047,831, #7,347,114, #7,797,138

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When posture changes, seat position changes.

US Patents: #6,840,125, #7,047,831, #7,347,114, #7,797,138

Erect

Slumped

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Globally, people use erect to slumped sitting

postures for talking, working and driving.

US Patents: #6,840,125, #7,047,831, #7,347,114, #7,797,138

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Does this seat perform to your expectations?

US Patents: #6,840,125, #7,047,831, #7,347,114, #7,797,138

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Interior performance is safety, ergonomics and comfort that equal

owner expectations of car performance.

US Patents: #6,840,125, #7,047,831, #7,347,114, #7,797,138

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Seats have to fit a range of body sizes.

US Patents: #6,840,125, #7,047,831, #7,347,114, #7,797,138

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This seat forces a slumped posture that lowers her eye height.

US Patents: #6,840,125, #7,047,831, #7,347,114, #7,797,138

Page 11: Car seats, where comfort doesn't meet owner expectations

US Patents: #6,840,125, #7,047,831, #7,347,114, #7,797,138

This seat is small and controls are too far away.

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We don’t know your personal preference, but if you are short, you want to sit upright for good vision.

US Patents: #6,840,125, #7,047,831, #7,347,114, #7,797,138

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If you are tall, you may sit slumped to fit.

US Patents: #6,840,125, #7,047,831, #7,347,114, #7,797,138

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These seats meet position requirements, but do they

perform for owners?

US Patents: #6,840,125, #7,047,831, #7,347,114, #7,797,138

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Seat design began in the 1960s to use H-point, defined in the car with this 2D template, “Oscar.”

US Patents: #6,840,125, #7,047,831, #7,347,114, #7,797,138

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Oscar came from 12 male drivers sitting in a 1961 bench seat.

US Patents: #6,840,125, #7,047,831, #7,347,114, #7,797,138

(S. P. Geoffrey, 1961)

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After the seat was built, it was checked with this H-point machine.

US Patents: #6,840,125, #7,047,831, #7,347,114, #7,797,138

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The H-point machine was developed as an accommodation checking device to be used

after the car was built.

US Patents: #6,840,125, #7,047,831, #7,347,114, #7,797,138

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These tools were developed to check dimensions in cars

with bench seats.

US Patents: #6,840,125, #7,047,831, #7,347,114, #7,797,138

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Then, in 1967, Oscar was written into federal regulations. He acquired his

head in 2001 when head restraint regulations were added.

US Patents: #6,840,125, #7,047,831, #7,347,114, #7,797,138

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Government regulations and industry tradition have re-enforced

using Oscar without a seat.

US Patents: #6,840,125, #7,047,831, #7,347,114, #7,797,138

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Today, Oscar is simply positioned in the new car from his position in the older model.

US Patents: #6,840,125, #7,047,831, #7,347,114, #7,797,138

2012

2005

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Then, design proceeds with reach models, like RAMSIS, sitting without a seat

design.

US Patents: #6,840,125, #7,047,831, #7,347,114, #7,797,138

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Eventually, a seat is built, and Oscar checks the head restraint and H-point location.

Head Restraint test of Position

H-Point test of Position

US Patents: #6,840,125, #7,047,831, #7,347,114, #7,797,138

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Finally, drivers test whether the seat performs.

US Patents: #6,840,125, #7,047,831, #7,347,114, #7,797,138

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To build car interiors that perform, seated drivers are needed in the car at

the start of design.

US Patents: #6,840,125, #7,047,831, #7,347,114, #7,797,138

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Erect

Neutral

Slumped

Small Large

Medium

We represent seated drivers for seat design

performance before the car is built!

US Patents: #6,840,125, #7,047,831, #7,347,114, #7,797,138

4’11”

5’9”

6’3”

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Oscar defines H-point position in the car; ERL defines seat

design for performance.

US Patents: #6,840,125, #7,047,831, #7,347,114, #7,797,138

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We sit to drive the car on a plain surface defined for a designer to

create a seat trim style.

US Patents: #6,840,125, #7,047,831, #7,347,114, #7,797,138

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Our body weight is supported on the seat at anatomical landmarks. Vertebrae are

used to design the seat back surface.

US Patents: #6,840,125, #7,047,831, #7,347,114, #7,797,138

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Our pelvis and thigh are used to design the cushion surface.

US Patents: #6,840,125, #7,047,831, #7,347,114, #7,797,138

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Our backside represents our seated shape. So seat design is optimized for best contact with our bodies.

US Patents: #6,840,125, #7,047,831, #7,347,114, #7,797,138

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We each have three back postures that are used in

different driving conditions.

US Patents: #6,840,125, #7,047,831, #7,347,114, #7,797,138

Erect

Straight

Slumped

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Oscar can define H-point position, but not improve performance.

US Patents: #6,840,125, #7,047,831, #7,347,114, #7,797,138

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To improve interior performance, seated drivers must be used with Oscar at the start of car design.

US Patents: #6,840,125, #7,047,831, #7,347,114, #7,797,138

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Hi, I’m Mac Reynolds and I can be reached by email ([email protected]).