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07222015 09:18 AM
Does anyone here have examples of delta art, but more on the xSTJ side? I have my own ideas about it butI am curious if anyone has anything to share.
No pictures of sober architecture preferably.
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07222015 04:00 PM
Since Si is subjective sensations, I'd say that xSTJ art is something that calls forth a certain sensation inyourself.This means it can vary greatly, just like Fi art, because it completely depends on the person.
I think sober architecture is more Se than Si, since it is focussed on the objective sensations. Thinkingabout it, Se is probably more interested in the blueprint, the colours, the shape, etc, while Si is moreinterested in how all these things affect yourself. "Cover the floor with carpet so that it will be soft to walkon."
When I see steel, I feel cold. When I see grass, I feel comfortable. Stone walls make me uncomfortable,while looking at beds makes me feel comfortable. I feel the sensation I'd feel if I were touching it by justlooking at it. A room made out of steel is extremely uncomfortable to sit in, because every time I look at awall, I can feel a cold sensation.
Look at this, for instance:
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Ninjaws Unknown Originally Posted by Verglas
Does anyone here have examples of delta art, but more on the xSTJ side? I have my own ideas about it but Iam curious if anyone has anything to share.
No pictures of sober architecture preferably.
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The leaf is smooth, soft to the touch. Warm sunlight is shining on it, the sky is clear. I think "I want to bethere, feeling the warmth of the sun on my body."
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07222015 11:05 PM
Are you sure that's Si and not synesthesia? I don't know, when I look at a wall I see a wall. It can havesome kind of meaning which can be felt internally, but usually I'd have to be intentionally focused on thatto notice, and even then it's very subtle and not something I could concretely describe.
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When I see steel, I feel cold. When I see grass, I feel comfortable. Stone walls make me uncomfortable, whilelooking at beds makes me feel comfortable. I feel the sensation I'd feel if I were touching it by just looking at it.A room made out of steel is extremely uncomfortable to sit in, because every time I look at a wall, I can feel acold sensation.
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07232015 12:03 AM
Synesthesia is placed with dynamics, which Si is one of.
SLI is fond of nature and the harmony thereof, so I imagine that would be a popular subject of such.
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Jeremy8419 Unknown Originally Posted by Silveresque
Are you sure that's Si and not synesthesia? I don't know, when I look at a wall I see a wall. It can have somekind of meaning which can be felt internally, but usually I'd have to be intentionally focused on that to notice,and even then it's very subtle and not something I could concretely describe.
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07232015 05:44 AM #765
Word Dispenser ILE Originally Posted by Silveresque
Are you sure that's Si and not synesthesia? I don't know, when I look at a wall I see a wall. It can have some
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That's Si. But, I think it's going on in the background, and it's not something you're aware of unless youthink about it.
I know that I think of the sun as being warm and comforting, and such. Not to say that Si should be thatwelldeveloped in me, but it's experiential, and thus, I understand it and am maybe more aware of it than Iwas when I was younger.
kind of meaning which can be felt internally, but usually I'd have to be intentionally focused on that to notice,and even then it's very subtle and not something I could concretely describe.
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07232015 05:54 AM
That's a good point. I think I have synesthesia and I might be mixing the two up here.
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Ninjaws Unknown Originally Posted by Silveresque
Are you sure that's Si and not synesthesia? I don't know, when I look at a wall I see a wall. It can have somekind of meaning which can be felt internally, but usually I'd have to be intentionally focused on that to notice,and even then it's very subtle and not something I could concretely describe.
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07232015 05:59 AM
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Wassily Kandinsky was typed in Socionics as LSE. Don't know what to think about it tbh. I can see Alphatoo Collection Online | Browse By Artist | Vasily Kandinsky Guggenheim Museum
Also I saw this minimalist landscape painter Arkhip Kuindzhi been typed as SLI.
Zentangle art strikes me as a very Si thing. The very idea behind this art is relaxation, meditation andregaining piece of mind in the process of drawing structured patterns Zentangle art
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07232015 12:41 PM
He was describing getting physical sensations just from looking at something, though. It'd be one thing tofeel comforted (emotionally) by the sight of something pleasant, but he was describing getting a cold
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That's Si. But, I think it's going on in the background, and it's not something you're aware of unless you thinkabout it.
I know that I think of the sun as being warm and comforting, and such. Not to say that Si should be that welldeveloped in me, but it's experiential, and thus, I understand it and am maybe more aware of it than I was whenI was younger.
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sensation from looking at a wall. A mixing of the senses, hence synesthesia. There's no reason he can't beSi base too, but I don't think this would be an accurate description of Si in general when very few Si types(or any type) have synesthesia.
I don't experience a mixing of the senses as Ninjaws described. I don't get physical sensations when I lookat things, unless it triggers an emotional reaction which has a physical component. Walls are just walls, thesun is the sun, warmth is warmth. To be honest I'm not sure how my Sensation is supposed to besubjective, and I don't think it really is because I experience things to be exactly as they are. I guess it'sjust that my internal state matters more than making some kind of external impact most of the time.
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07232015 12:50 PM
Well, they're internal sensations. That's what Si is. Isn't it? I'm pretty sure I don't have synesthesia, and Iunderstand what he's saying. Grass makes me feel things when I look at it. Can be thought of asemotional, I suppose, but I see it as being more intrinsic and sensational.
Like, grass gives me a warm feeling, thinking of the sun shining through it. Or it can be cold, when it's inthe shade.
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Word Dispenser ILE Originally Posted by Silveresque
He was describing getting physical sensations just from looking at something, though. It'd be one thing to feelcomforted (emotionally) by the sight of something pleasant, but he was describing getting a cold sensationfrom looking at a wall. A mixing of the senses, hence synesthesia. There's no reason he can't be Si base too,but I don't think this would be an accurate description of Si in general when very few Si types (or any type)have synesthesia.
I don't experience a mixing of the senses as Ninjaws described. I don't get physical sensations when I look atthings, unless it triggers an emotional reaction which has a physical component. Walls are just walls, the sun isthe sun, warmth is warmth. To be honest I'm not sure how my Sensation is supposed to be subjective, and Idon't think it really is because I experience things to be exactly as they are. I guess it's just that my internalstate matters more than making some kind of external impact most of the time.
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07232015 12:55 PM
Well this is completely foreign to me, so I'm not sure what to say. Are you really speaking of literal warmand cold sensations? Or more like happy/sad emotions?
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Well, they're internal sensations. That's what Si is. Isn't it? I'm pretty sure I don't have synesthesia, and Iunderstand what he's saying. Grass makes me feel things when I look at it. Can be thought of as emotional, Isuppose, but I see it as being more intrinsic and sensational.
Like, grass gives me a warm feeling, thinking of the sun shining through it. Or it can be cold, when it's in theshade.
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