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_ Hra. VICTOR ADAMS 1121 Lindy Lane, Irving, Texaa,adviaed SA AIIHUR I . CARTER

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PRESTON C.IMOGA

Badge No. 34 of the Irving Police Department that abe recalled abe was a t home with her children on the entireevening of November 21 1963 from 6:00 p.m. until theyretired, and abe aaid her home ia located only three lotaremoved from the interaection of Peveto and Lindy Laneand there are only two amall vacant lota in the area, onedirectly acroas from Peveto on one aide of Lindy Lane andthe other lot 11 on the Peveto aide of Lindy Lane one lotremoved from Peveto. She noted that both of theae are emallnarrow lots and the area i1 densely populated vitb people

iu emall low rent dwellings. She aaid abe definitEly didnot hear anyone ahooting on the night of November 21 1963and questioned other member• of her family who alao adviaedthey did no.t bear any ahota on that evening.

Mra. ADAMS aaid that children often ahoot ai r

r i f les and .22'• in the oak trees in the area, but abe doeanot recall any bighpowered r i f les being fired immediately adjacent to her residence and believe• moat of the ahota arefired in fields about one and one-fourth to two milea •awayfrom her residence toward Nursery Street in Irving. Sheadviaed there waa no one a t home a t 1126 Lindy Lane andabe did not know the names of any of the other reeidentein the immediate area •

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Office advbel ' t h • t on t h a t d a t - - = - X _ 9 t 1 1 J S K I I · D ~ 9 ~ . A u a t i n , ' texas,bad advlaed t ha t while be, £.,- lln•-BAADZQRD, and Mrs•.BRADFORD s brother-lD-lew, • . .,o WHITSON, '5017 ampo reeFor t Worth, ' exaa, w.re lD ~ r ; ~ ~ ~ ~ · ~ ~ r . ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~Highwar, For t Worth, l e x u , on J'riday, a t approxlmzltely :Sr30 PM.j u a t pr io r ~ o ·the ' exaa - SMO' Footba l l Ga11111 which waa playedon Bovember 2 , 1963, an lDdlvidua1 call8 l l l to Morgan'• Gun Shop

•nd inquired about and purcha the 1aat R-lll llDbg z-lfle allllllllDl

·-tlon o f an anrecal led ca l ibe r tha t MORGA& b3d 1o h i s posaessioa· • t t h a t ~ 1 M .. i f f : •

• Mr. jRADFORD advlled t h a t be and h l • wife c eterminedthe lndivldual. · va l LBB W.JWBY OSWALD from photOgraphs which M 4

appeared lD Llfe Magazine. Mr. BRADFORD lndlcated be z-ecalled

t h l • individual who very s t rongly z-eaembled the Llfe Magazine

photograph• • • being 1'\lde, lapert lDent , and who stepped lD f ron t

o f BRADFORD, Vho was exa111lnlng old _9\IDI for p o u ib l e purchase e tthe ~ l m e . BRADFORD indicated tha t t h l • lndlvldual purchased ap-_

Proxts&tely f i f teen or twenty z-lfle car t r idge• and c eparted alone.

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FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGAT'' \N

lDote Apri l 15, 1964

DEWEY C, BRADFORD, 2500 St ra t fo rd Drive, Aust in ,

Texast s t a t ed he was i n For t Worth, Texas, the day before cheTexas-SHU f oo tba l l game played in Dal l a s , Texas, on November2, 1963,

On Friday before t h i s game, in response to a c i r c u l a rput out by Morgan's Gun Shop, 1401 Jacksboro Highway, For t

~ l o r t h , Texas, te lephone LA 6 ~ 6 5 7 2 a t approximately 3; 30 p , m "3RADFORD, t oge the r with h i s wife and h i s w i fe ' s bro ther •

H, V, WHITSON, res idence address 5017 El Campo St r e e t , For t

\>.Jcrth, Texas, went to t h i s gun shop in order t ha t BRADFORD

~ · ~ h t examine olde r guns and look over the merchandise whichi · .'-'GAN rad on di sp lay , BRADFORD s t a t ed a t the t ime he was

·,,,c O\·n:a.r of a s to re known as "Country Store" in Aust in , Texas,and he was in search of merchandise su i t ab le fo r di sp lay

and sa le a t t h i s place ,

BRADFORD s t a t ed they had been i n t h i s s t o r eapproximate ly twenty minutes when a bareheaded i nd iv idua l

whom BRADFORD considered rude and imper t inen t , walked i n t othe s t o r e , s tepped i n f ron t of BRADFORD, and even pickedup two or three of the guns which BRADFORD was examininga t t ha t t ime,

This i nd iv idua l then asked the s to re owner, MORGAN,

( the only i nd iv idua l i n the s to re making sa les a t t ha t t ime)fo r r i f l e ammunition, BRADFORD could not r e c a l l the c a l i be rrequested by th i s person, MORGAN answered t ha t he did not

be l ieve t ha t he had t ha t pa r t i cu l a r ca l ibe r and asked t h i si nd iv idua l if he had h i s gun, MORGAN was advised t ha t he didhave his gun bu t , on being requested to get it t h i s youngman refused to get the gun and again repea ted the c a l i b e r o f

the r i f l e to MORGAN,

MORGAN then examined the r i f l e ammunition in h i ss to re and informed t h i s ind iv idua l t ha t he did not have acomplete box of the des i red ammunition, whereupon MORGAN wasreques ted to give him a l l t ha t he did have in t ha t pa r t i c u l a rammunition, BRADFORD r eca l l ed t ha t he bel ieved there wereapproximate ly f i f t een or twenty r i f l e she l l s which MORGAN

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so ld to t h i s i nd iv idua l who paid fo r them in cash put

them in h i s p o c k e t ~ and walked ou t .

BRADfORD s a id t h a t t h i s i n d i v idua l was alone onenter ing the s to re i th a t he did not see any automobi lebu t did r e c a l l t h i s i nd iv idua l t e l l i n g BRADFORD t h a t hehad been in the Marine Corps and BRADFORD t o ld him t ha t hea l so had been in the Marine Corps a t one t ime.

BRADFORD reca l led tha t t h i s ind iv idual had moved

i t h a mi l i t a ry bear-ing 9 seemed par t i cu l a r l y a l e r t and~ n e th ing t ha t f1 r s t caused him to n o ~ i c e him was h i s

r e 1 ~ ~ ~ n t n d obnoxious a t t i t u d e .

BRADFORD s t a t ed t ha t ha did not th ink anyth ing

about ~ h i s inc1dent u n ~ i l the subsequent p h o t o ~ r a p h s ofLEE HARVEY OSWALD WE: 'e publ i shed in . : f Magaz1ne.

BRADFORD s t a t ed t h a t a f t e r these photographs cameou t he discussed the photographs with h i s b r o t h e r - i n l a wH. Vc WHITSON• as wel l as with h i s w i f e ~ and they a l lt h r e e agreed t ha t the i nd iv idua l who had been in MorganvsGun Shop on the day befor e the Texas-SMU game was LEE

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BRADFORD fu r the r s t a t e d t ha t h i s b ro t h e r - i n - l a wH v. WHITSON 9 owned and opera ted a used car l o t i n For t

Worth Texas and had 1nformed BR ADFORD t ha t he knew t h i sind iv idual who had on occas io ns h ~ n g out a t WHITSON sused ca.r lo t .

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Since: th:h lcllr1ct :about th:h; .i nc:: .dromt, and lnview o f th0 a r . m a s ~ d n a t i o n o f P . t e s : l < . h ~ l t KENllfEfJY wi.th ar i f l e she has wonde:rtld i t h i s man wi.th the r · i f le

was OS\11JLD. She saw a photograph of OSWALD in the,

<lewspape:r. and s ta ted tha t a s: .de view of OSWRD dN>Snot look l i lw th i s person, The fu l l fac( photograph,however, sho believes does rt;semble hi.m She was

shown a photograph of RUBY, but she advis•3d tha t

RUBY was defin. i te ly not iden t ica l w:l. th any o f tht> •;;thHl"pel"S'ons, She s ta ted the man by the car that she ta lked

to was about 40 years of age, dark complex.ion, mediumheight and weight. She could not doscr lbe th:ls pet:>son

any fur ther but believes she would {now h'im i . f shewero to see hi.m again, She could not g i Vf;; any desct · ip-ti.on of the other man by the car a t a l l The man withthe r i f l e was a young white male of ro.ed:l.um Might andslender bui ld .

Mrs. PENN stated that the f ie ld who,;;£ < theman was shooting has been plowed since the i .ncident,and she did not feel there was any possibi l i ty that

any of the shel ls could be located. She advised tha tshe would re turn to the f:l.eld w h ~ • r e the :lnc:i.dent tookplace and look carefu l ly for any of the she l l s and would

advise the resul ts of th is search,

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Mr. J , Edgar HooverDirecto rFederal Bureau of InvestigationDepartmen t of JusticeWashington, D. c.

Dear Mr. Hoover:

APR 2 8Cand y

On November 25, 1963 , Mr. Dial D. Ryder made available forinspection by an agent of your Bureau a repai r tag which indicatedthat certain work, associated by Ryder vith the mounting on a r i f l e

and the sighting of a telescopi c sight, ....as performed by the Irving

Sports Shop, 221 East Irving Boulevard, Irving, Texas, for a roan bythe name of Oswald . That fact and others concerning this matter arereported a t pages 395-6 of the report of Special ~ n t Robert P.Gemberling, dated November 30, 1963, at Dallas, Texas.

We note that other reports of your i nvestigati on concerningthe above repair tag are set forth a t pages 65-6 and 654-6 of thereport of Special Agent Gemberling dated December 23, 1963, and a t

page 96 of Agent Gemberling •s report of March 101 1964. We also notemy le t te r to you dated February 21, 1964, your reply dated ~ h 27,1964, and the memorandum of your Dallas office dated Apri l 2, 1964, ~in response to the oral inquiry of Mr. Wesley J. Liebeler of our es taff . E

I t also appears that personnel of the Irving Sports Shophave been contacted by the United States Secret Service (SecretService Control No. 424) and the Dallas Police Department. (Seepages 252-4 of that Department s report of i t s investigation of theassassination of the President.) Mr. Liebeler has examined bothMr. Ryder and Mr • Greener, the owner of the Irving Sports Shop.

A reviev of the above documents indicates a need for furtherinvestigat i on as suggested belov:

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i \\395-6) does not indicate vhere the interview there reported ....as

• c o n d u c ~ or the circumstances W1der Which the vork tag vas locatej. •

\ \ In b.11f,:cleposition, Ryder stated {;hat your ~ e J l t · rs t came to his• ,• n c.\.) , J · \ l j ' ;~ ....<'{ ) . - \ . . ..\. / : / I / r . . . . . . . . . - '; ;;

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the f i r s t instance. In that connection wetha t the Sports Shop was closed on ll.onday.

Agent contactednote that Ryder

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l Ie would l ike to know whether or not your Agent was actua l lypresent when the tag was found. f so, we would l ike to know thecircumstances under which the was found. I f not, we would l iketo know i f your Agent asked Ryder when and under what circumGtances

he f i r s t became aware of the tag 's existence.

In this connection, we note tha t Officer F. M. Turner of theDallas Police Department reported tha t on Sunday evening, November 24,

1963, that Department had received a telephone cal l from one Ray John

of Channel 8 news, presumably in Dallas, advising that the news off ice

had received an anonymous phone ca l l in which the caller had sta ted

tha t he she) thought Oswald had had the r i f le sighted-in on November 21

1963, a t a cun shop at 211 or 212 Irving Boulevard. Officer Turner

reports tha t he checked and found the Irving Sports Shop at 221 EastIrving Boulevard. The Officer spoke to Mr. Greener time not indicated)who said tha t he and Ryder had discussed the matter but that neithercould remember having done any work for Lee Oswald or on the assassinat ion weapon. Mr. Greener said he would check his f i les for names and

re-contact the Dallas Police D e p ~ r t m e n t

Mr. John should be ~ n t e r v i e w e d in connection with the nnony::.._,ustelephone cal l he received. Consideration should be given to theposs ibi l i ty that Ryder himself may have cal led Mr. John. Officer Turner

might be able to supply addi t ional information. The anonymous ca l l mayhave come from Mrs. Whitworth see below).

In tha t connection, Hr. Greener said tha t a reporter for theDallas) Times Herald had told him tha t he had spoken to Ryder before

the FBI f i r s t came to the Sporto. Shop, i . e . , before the story appeared

in the newspapers on November 28-29, 1963. Ryder has denied to Greener

tha t he talked to this reporter .

We think that a complete investigation into the question of

how, when and where the story concerning the Irving Sports Shop f i r s t

came to the at tent ion of the press would be very helpful in making adetermination of the veracity of Messrs. Ryder and Greener.

2. e would appreciate fur ther investigation into the questior.

of when the work tag was rnnde out. i. his phase of the invest igat ionshould e conducted on the assumption tha t the tag was prepared prior

to the assassination, although consideration should be given to theother possibil i ty in connection with the investigation we have requested

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also note however that l•1r G r e c n ~ r to ld Officer Turner

that i t appca.red that the r i f l e in q u e ~ t i o n harl probably been brought

in b e t ~ e e n November 4-8, 1963. Greener also told Turner that he ~ u l dcheck his cash register receipts to see i f he could determine ~ h e n ther i f le was picked up and paid for . Ryder also noted that he had i t en

the repair tag in pencil , but he usually used a pen. He said heremembered picking up some orders in Dallas one day in the past ~ h e n he

did use a pencil in his ~ r k . t might also be possible to f ix ~ i t h i ncerta in l imits the date the tag ~ a s prepared by reference to i t s number,

even though Ryder has indicated that they do not use the tags in any

exact chronological order.

e ~ u l d appreciate additional investigation into the abovepoints and along ~ h a t e v e r other l ines you deem appropriate in order tohelp f ix the date on which the tag ~ a s prepared.

3· The significance of Officer Turner's report that Greener

had told him that the r i f le had been brought in b e t ~ e e n November 4-8,1963, is clear ~ h e n considered in connection ~ i t h your report onHrs. Edith Iilli ~ o r t h ~ h o said she had, on November 6, 7, or 8, 1963,

directed Lee Harvey s ~ d to gun shop one and one-half blocks from

her used furniture store. (Page 65 of Gemberling's report of

December 23, 1963.)

In connection v h Mrs . Hhi ~ o r t h s statements, ~ u l you

please advise (a) ~ h e t h e r she docs in fact have a grandchild ~ h i c h wasborn on or about October 20, 1963, and (b) ~ h e t h e r or not in November,1963, there vere any gun shops, other than the Irving Sports Shop,

within one and one-half blocks of 145 East Irving Boulevard, theformer location of Mrs. Whi tvorth 's Furniture Mart.

4. Please advise ~ h e t h e r or not your Bureau has ever receivedany indication that Lee Harvey Oswald ever o ~ e d any r i f le other thanthe weapon identified by your Bureau as K-l . e ~ u l d also appreciateyour advice as to the nature and extent of any investigation that you

may have made concerning that possibi l i ty.

5· In your l e t t e r to me dated March 27, 1964, you indicatedthat Mr. Jerry A. O s ~ l d as ~ e l l as other persons having the l as t nameof O s ~ < a l d residing in Dallas and vicini ty, ~ e r e interviewed and a l l

advised they had not taken a r i f le to the Irving Sports Shop to have atelescopic sight mounted. You noted that your investigation on th is

particular matter w s reported on pages 654-6 of Agent Gemberling's



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Oswal.d l .oco.tcd in I r v . . ~ . . - ; , · r e x n . ~ ; , "l. N ~ : u a l t . af c x A i r t l n l t l ~ ~ h ~ ... ~ . J 'Direc tory te lephone d1 rectory le::; o:f t.h( Hctn1 l Hercl\1\nt n Aonoc 1a-

t i on and f i l e s of' the Pol i ce D c p n . r t . r : v - . . . n t ~ o f . .nat c i t y . Other Oswnldo

were identified by reference to tn Dalb.s ty Directory. I t thw;appears that the only Oswalt s located in tile above investir,n.tion arcthose vho had suff icient contact with Dallas or Irving to have been

uncovered by the procedures described above.

Hould you please advise who prepares the City Directories of

Dallas and Irving, Texas, and hov the names of persons l i s ted thereinare obtained. We \lOuld also appreciate further investigation to locate

a l l other persons by the name of Osvald vho may have resided in the

Dallas-Ft. ~ 1 o r t h area in October or November, 1963.

we also note that while the above report indicates the existence

of one Jessie J Osvald, 2625 Stoval Street , Dallas, Texas, i t does not

indicate that Jessie J Oswald was ever interviewed to determine whetheror not he had had any \lOrk perfonned at the Irving Sports Shop on any

-weapon which he may have owned. Would you please interview Mr. Jessie J

Osvald and forward the results of that interview to us.

I enclose e t ranscript of Mr. Ryder's examination, as -well as

a copy of the report of the Dallas Police Department, to which I have

referred.

Your continued cooperation in the work of this Commission is

greatly appreciated.

Enclosures

Sincerely,{ n.+L-<_;> ~ L - - -J . Lee Rankin

General Counsel



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BY COURiml SERVICE

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Reference is aade to your le t ter datedA u t e, 1964, and ay l e t t e r dated August 19, 1964,concerning the poss ib i l i ty Lee Harvey Oswald had atelescopic a i c h ~ aouated and ai&hted a t theIrvinJ lport Shop, Irvina, Tezaa.

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Inclosed are two oopiea of a self-ex.planatoryco.. n1cat1on froa our ~ l Office dated Aucuat 21,1984, •et t lng ·out the reaulta of our inyeati&&tion.

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BOTI to.1r r . e Coa.J.••ion requested several inna t ip t t t e f tepato 58 taken to •ubataat iate or di8prove an allecation tha tprior to the assassination o.. ld and hia wife, Karina, Yiaitedthe IrYing Sport Shop to haye a telescopic sight aounted and•ighted on a r i f le . Thia waa in i t ia l ly reported by an eaployeeof the atore, Dial D. Byder who allecedly found a repai r tacwith the lWie Onald on i t . This a l lep t ion haa been aoaewhatsupported by two woaen lira. Gertrude Bunter and ll:ra. Kclith

Whitworth, who claimed they aaw the- Onald8 and directed thto the aport shop. The circuaatancea of thia whole aituat ionindicated Byder prepared the repair tac after the aaaaaaination.However, he is ao involved he can t back out noY. The woaenappear aiataken in the ir identi1icat ion as the supportinc data



Bonorable J . J. ee RankinGeneral counselTbe President 's Commission200 )laryland Avenue, Nortbea&t

washington, D. c.

JulY 31, 1964

BY cotJRiltR SERVICE

1 - W. C, Sul l ivan

(R. E . Lenihan)

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ThiS is in reference to your request of June 38,

1964, re la t i ' to tbe allegation tb>t LeO narv•Y o.wald andhis wife, varina, were seen in a furniture store in Irving,Texas, dUring November, 19G3, and thereafter directed to theIrving Sport ShOP wnere i t was alleged that be bad a scope

mounted on a r i f le .

near t«r. Rankin:

Enclosed are two copies each of two memorandadated July 18, 1964, NeW orleans, LoUisiana, and July 20,1964, Dalla&, TexaS·, both captioned, Lee HarveY oswald.

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may have f ab r ica ted the r e p a i r tag;, The only fac t t ha t

lends credence to h is s to ry are the comments made byMrs. Edi th Whitworth, who fo rmer ly opera ted a usedfu rn i tu re s to re near the gun shop, who a l legedLee 1arvey Oswald appeared in her shop during November,

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Dall•s, TexasAugust. 21, 1964

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By l e t te r dated August 6, 1964, the President ' s 1

Commission requested addit ional invest igat ion be conducted

concerning the poss ibi l i ty tha t Lee Harvey oswald had a Ite lescopic sight mounted on a r i f l e and sighted a t theIrving Sport . Shop, 221 Bast Irving Boulevard, Irving, Texas.The P r e s i d e ~ e • a Commission noted previous testimony regardingth i s matter has raised questions concerning which they desiredadditiona'l invest igat ion.

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I t was desired the following persona be . ~ n t e r v i e w e dMrs. Gertrude Hunter, Roy ' l 'rulyl Charles WoodroW Greener1fr iends of M r ~ . ) Hunter whose names were furnished as Mr. and

Mrs. :.bozninic:Jl:;jaa wel l a& determine the date of the Irving -Richland Hilla High School football game, which occurred inNovember, 1963.

------n August ll 1964, ~ s - ~ _ G _ ~ _ ; _ ~ ; - _ q _ c l _ f L . f l _ q l ) i ; : e , : ; , .141 SouthHastings, Irving, Texas, furnished the following 1i1fol::1Nitionregarding the proposed t r i p of her relat ives, James and DoriaDommney of Houston, Texas.

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tha t the ·Dommneylli had not di rec t ly

told her tha t they planned to v is i t her in November, 1963,

but tha t her sta ter- in- law and mother ,o:E _ Doria Dommney; one

Mrs. Patterson, had writ ten her tha t the Dommneys were planninga v is i t to the Dallaa area in November, 1963, and would

probably vis i t her in Irving, Texa•.

Mra. Hunter s ta ted tha t Mrs. Patter•on died on orabout June 13, 1964. ·

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Ti1o •• " ladies think t :ha t t he Oswa ld a were 1 n

F ~ . : : : : n i t M:::-t c i tnc r on No vember 6 or 7 or on November

l . 1963 . 1 d ~ : : c s on ' •'·· : : the Osw.::lds were alle: ;edly in tn:::.c

s::.:>rc co1-la l>e na::-roucd to t:\.ro poss ible days i f you would detcn::inet : d.::tl.. on w:.:.ch the above fo o tbel l g.:une was actual ly played .

t..=ter y o ~ . . d e c c r = : ~ i n e the pre c i se i-]cdnesday o r Thursday on w 1ich

~ : : s lTnitwo::-ch and Mrs . lunter c l ~ i m t ne Oswalds were in t he Furn i tu re

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r . ~ o ·' Dcposito:::y 2.;:1d de t:c lnine i f he: c ~ r ascer t a i n £:-om any reco::ds

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..... vclur:1e o : o::-de:·s \.''1ich Os\Jald f i l led .

3 • . oc:.c you please determine t:le whereabouts _ M ; : ~ \ < r l e s ~, l-Joodr-ow Q . _ r e ~ . , e 2015 Rosebud, I rv ing, Texas, O\-mer of the_ I rv ing

Sport ~ o p , dur in:; the pe r iod from Friday evening November 22, 1qb3t o Novemlrer 28 1963 , and whether or not he had any conversat ions

wi th his employee, Mr . Dial D. Ryder , during t ha t period . In tha t

connection we note tha t M e s s r ~ r e e n e r and Ryder discussed,

apparently pr io r to the afternoon o f November 23, 1963, when Ryder11d iscovered" the work t i cke t bear ing Oswa l d s name, the poss ib i l i ty

t · · - : Lee Harvey Oswa ld may have been in the Irv ing Sport Shop a t one

ti.""lle or another . In sp i t e of that , hm1ever , Ryder claims tha t be did

not t e l l G::-eener about the t i cke t tha t hee l l e

discovered onSa turday af ternoon un t i l some t ~ af t e r November 25, 1963, when he

told an agen t o f your Bureau that t he work covered by the t i cke t must

\have been done during the per iod Novembe r 1 ~ 1 4 , 1963. Ryder l a te r

based tha t determinat ion on the fac t t hat· Greener did not remember

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i s apparent t ha t Ryder could not have made tha t determination on

November 25, 1963 unless he had prev ious ly discussed the matter with

Greener, wh ich, o f course, he claims he did not . ~ i l e it

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old, in her arms. Mrs. Hunter voiced some nice remark aboutthe baby and recalls that Marina did not reply to Mrs. Hunter'scomment. Mrs. Hunter then stated, according to Matthian, that

Oswald spoke to Marina in a foreign language, apparentlyapprising Marina of Mrs. Hunter's comments.

Matthian advised that he does not recall whether Mrs.Hunter mentioned exactly what i t was that Oswald needed forhis gun. He also stated that he does not recall whether Mrs.Hunter stated that Mrs. Whitworth referred Oswald to the

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Matthian stated that when Mrs. Hunter remarked thatthe Oswalds entered a 1957 or 1958 two tone blue and white Ford,he asked her why she remembered the type car used by the Oswalds.He stated that Mrs. Hunter's reply was that Oswald, operating thevehicle, made a { f ' turn and was about to proceed in the wrongdirection on a one way street . Matthian did not recall whetherMrs. Hunter stated that she informed Oswald of the i l legal turnor he became aware of his error in some other way but he doesbelieve that Mrs. Hunter stated that Oswald was then instructedto back the vehicle down the street toward the Irvington SportsShop.

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LEE HARVEY OSWALD

By l e t t e r dated June 30, 1964, the President 'sCommission requested the interview of Miss JEAN CAMPBELL,American correspondent for the London Evening Standardin order to ascertain from her the de ta i l s of her contactwith Mrs. EDITH MIITWORTH, including tho fu l l part icularsabout the al leged vis i t of the OS WALD family to Mrs. WHITWORTH sstore in Irving, Texas. During the interview of Miss CAMPBELL,she advised that JERRY HERALD, a photographer for the ' 'ParisMatch magazine, accompanied her during her in i t i a l contactwith Mrs. WHITWORTH.

On July 17, 1964, Mr. JERRY ALLEN HERALD, mailingaddress Box 81, Gonzales, Louisiana, was interviewed by aSpecial Agent of the New Orleans Office of the Federal Bureau

of Invest igat ion. HERALD advised the interviewing Agentthat he had destroyed his notes and tapes made of interviewsof persons regarding LEE HARVEY OS WALD.

Mr. HERALD advised that on November 22, 1963, bearr ived in Dallas , Texas, a t approximately 4 :45 PM on anassignment from the New York off ice o f the Paris-Matchmagazine to make photographs regarding the assassinat ion ofPresident KENNEDY. lie advised that approximately f ive daysaf ter arr iving in Dallas he and Miss JEAN CAMPBELL, a correspondent for the London Evening Standard, were in Irving,Texas, to contact persons regarding Mrs. OS WALD. fie sta tedthat as he and Miss CAMPBELL were driving down the s t ree t thoy

noticed a s ign that said Gun Shop and decided to stop a tth is place to see i f anyone there might know OS WALD. Uponentering the shop they found that t had been converted intoa used furni ture store and was no longer a gun shop.

He advised that they talked to a woman in the s torea Mrs. EDITH WHITWORTII, and asked her i f she knew the OSWALDS.

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