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January 2009

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JTC1 Ad Hoc January 2009 AgendaDate: 2008-01-20

Name Company Address Phone email Jesse Walker Intel Corporation 2111 N.E. 25th Ave,

Hillsboro, OR USA +1-503-712-1849

[email protected]

Authors:

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Abstract

This presentation contains the IEEE 802.11 JTC1 Ad Hoc agenda, motions, and straw polls for January 2009.

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JTC1 Ad Hoc Agenda

• Tuesday 8:00 – 10:00– Call to Order– Roll Call– Select recording secretary– Modify and approve Agenda– Chair’s Welcome, Status,

Review of Objectives– Review outcome of November

2008 meeting and develop positions and next steps

– Recess until 13:30 Thursday

(estimated time)Attendance reminder: http://newton/ **for each timeslot*** (Documents: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/documents

• Thursday 13:30 – 15:30– Call to Order– Roll Call– Select recording secretary– Develop positions and next steps

to recommend to 802.11 WG and 802 LSMC

– Motions to the WG, as needed– Adjourn

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Motion

• Move to adopt the agenda in this submission.

• Mover:

• Seconder:

• Result: By unanimous consent

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JTC1 January Meeting Status

• Highlights from ISO/IEC JTC1/SC6 Plenary in Montreux, Switzerland, November 3-7

– China to decide how to progress WAPI by June 2009• JTC1/SC6 Secretariat to circulate IS and TR proposals for comments• Central issue of integration recognized by China, but they appear unwilling to assume any

of the costs• Suggestion: force the issue by progressing IEEE 802.11-2007 to DIS Fast Track

– Revision of 8802-1 progressing• Preserve document naming conventions, catalog of approved standards

– Liaison Statement from JTC1/SC6 to IEEE 802• SC6 encourages IEEE 802 to continue to use JTC1 DIS Fast Track process instead of the

PSDO FDIS process• SC6 encourages IEEE 802 to seek Class A liaison relationship with JTC1/SC6

• In November the Ad Hoc decided– Respond to the Liaison letter in January– Develop recommended schedule for submitting IEEE 802.11-2007, .11k/r/y for fast

track

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January Meeting Objectives

• Prepare recommendation of next steps for– 802.11 WG

– 802 LMSC

• Prepare response to Liaison letter for approval by 802 ExCom

• Prepare schedule to progress IEEE 802.11-2007, .11k/r/y through ISO/IEC fast track

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Liaison Letter

• See doc 11-09-0076-00

• Asks 802 to– Use traditional fast track process instead of the PDSO fast track

– Consider becoming a Class A liaison

• In Dallas consensus at ExComm level that we should use the PSDO fast track process– Doing otherwise is insubordinate, undercuts gains in the PSDO

• In Dallas no interest at ExComm level to pursue Class A liaison– Same reasoning

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Progressing IEEE 802.11 Standards

• In Dallas, we seemed to have consensus to progress IEEE 802.11-2007 to ISO/IEC fast track in either March or May using the PSDO fast track

• Any reason to change?

• Any reason to consider .11k/r/y prior to completion of fast track for 802.11-2007?

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Notes for Liaison Letter

• We will follow FDIS defined in PSDO, because it is a process developed by ISO and IEEE that has benefits for both parties– IEEE 802 and JTC1/SC6 have a responsibility to use it– In using it, IEEE 802 and JTC1/SC6 will feed our experiences back to

ISO and IEEE to refine the process and enhance the relationship between IEEE 802 and JTC1/SC6

• IEEE will not investigate becoming a Class A liaison at this time– It appears that becoming a Class A liaison affords the IEEE 802 with only

a subset of the benefits and responsibilities of the PSDO– If the PSDO is not renewed or refined to meet the needs of IEEE 802 and

JTC1/SC6, it would be appropriate to investigate other relationships, such as IEEE 802 becoming a Class A liaison

• IEEE 802 encourage comments on its draft standards from SC6 national bodies at any time, especially during fast track ballots

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Notes for Progressing IEEE 802 Documents

• There are advantages to 802.11 to continue to progress its standards– WTO affords protection of technology conforming to international standards

• From history, ISO seems to be the right international SDO– The previous collaborative agreement and PSDO give IEEE 802 rights in ISO/IEC

that it does not have in other organizations

• Advancing 802.11-2007 would– Highlight the orphaning issue– Extends WTO protection to more recent 802.11 technology

• When?– It seems more politic to send liaison letter before initiating fast track: don’t

embarrass our friends in SC6– Should initiate fast track at March meeting, to be executed after responding to the

liaison letter

• Ad Hoc Chair needs to contact IEEE Staff, ExComm, 802.11 Technical Editor to work through process

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Submissions

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Motion

• Motion:

• Mover:

• Seconder:

• Result:

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Straw polls

Straw Poll:

Yes: No: Abstain:

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March Meeting Planning

• Objectives– Develop further positions, as needed