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Modesta Luca - Re: (not urgent) Ajax ...

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Donovan Cavers <[email protected]> Jen Fretz<[email protected]> 31/08/2015 9:06 AM Re: (not urgent) Ajax ... Donovan Cavers<[email protected]>

I was replying to your Tuesday request... not today.

Donovan Cavers Kamloops City Councillor [email protected] @donovancavers 250.852.2264

Our public service mission is ... MAKING KAMLOOPS SHINE

On Aug 31, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Jen Fretz <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Donovan,

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I'm sorry but I'm pretty booked today. I could meet you for coffee or for a quick meeting this morning (I will need to be done by 11 :30) or this afternoon between 1 :30 and 2:30.

Jen Fretz, PEng Public Works & Utilities Director CITY OF KAMLOOPS Direct Line: 250-828-3697 www.kamloops.ca

Please consider the environment before printing this email.

Our corporate mission is ...

MAKING KAMLOOPS SHINE >>> Donovan Cavers <[email protected]> 8/31/2015 12:43 AM>>> Do you have time to make a trip DT to City Hall? or lunch downtown somewhere good? 12 or 12:30?

Donovan

On Aug 30, 2015, at 4:03 PM, <[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Donovan,

The staff people that I need information from in order to respond are on holidays

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tomorrow. I'm hoping that you are ok with me responding to your email on Tuesday this week?

Thanks,

Jen Fretz, PEng Public Works & Utilities Director

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On Aug 29, 2015, at 7:56 AM, David Trawin <dtrawin> wrote:

I will leave it to Jen to comment

David Trawin Chief Administrative Officer City of Kamloops

On Aug 29, 2015, at 1:52 AM, Donovan Cavers <dcaversx@city .kamloops. be.ca> wrote:

Hi David,

Can you comment on this screen shot taken from the 'top comment' posted on the new online publication?

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"News Kamloops"

... Mel Rothenberger and Mike Youds are behind "News Kamloops"

thanks,




MAKING KAMLOOPS SHINE

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From:

To:

Jen Fretz

Donovan Cavers

Date: 31/08/2015 8:41 AM

Subject: Re: (not urgent) Ajax ...

Hi Donovan,

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I'm sorry but I'm pretty booked today. I could meet you for coffee or for a quick meeting this morning (I will need to be done by 11:30) or this afternoon between 1:30 and 2:30.

Jen Fretz, PEng Public Works & Utilities Director CITY OF KAMLOOPS Direct Line: 250-828-3697 www.kamloops.ca

Please consider the environment before printing this email.


MAKING KAMLOOPS SHINE > > > Donovan Cavers <[email protected]> 8/31/2015 12:43 AM > > > Do you have time to make a trip DT to City Hall? or lunch downtown somewhere good? 12 or 12:30?

Donovan

On Aug 30, 2015, at 4:03 PM, <[email protected]> < [email protected]> wrote:

Hi Donovan,

The staff people that I need information from in order to respond are on holidays tomorrow. I'm hoping that you are ok with me responding to your email on Tuesday this week?

Thanks,


Sent from my iPhone



David Trawin

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Chief Administrative Officer City of Kamloops

On Aug 29, 2015, at 1:52 AM, Donovan Cavers <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi David,


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"News Kamloops"


thanks,





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From: To: Date: Subject:

Donovan Cavers <dcaversx@city .kamloops. be.ca> <[email protected]><[email protected]> 31/08/2015 12:44 AM Re: (not urgent) Ajax ...

Do you have time to make a trip DT to City Hall? or lunch downtown somewhere good? 12 or 12:30?

Donovan


Hi Donovan,

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Thanks,


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Hi David,


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"News Kamloops"


thanks,

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Donovan Cavers Karnloops City Councillor [email protected] @donovancavers 250.852.2264




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. Modesta Luca - Re: (not urgent*) Ajax ...


Donovan Cavers <dcaversx@city .kamloops. be.ca> <j [email protected]><[email protected]> 30/08/2015 6:09 PM Re: (not urgent*) Ajax ... Donovan Cavers<[email protected]>; David Trawin<[email protected]>

that's no problem*

Thanks for the understanding. Sorry to email on the weekend about this topic.

Donovan


Hi Donovan,

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Thanks,


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On Aug 29, 2015, at 1 :52 AM, Donovan Cavers <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi David,


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thanks,

Donovan Cavers Kam.loops City Councillor [email protected] @donovancavers 250.852.2264




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Modesta Luca - Re: (not urgent) Ahax ...

From: Jen Fretz <[email protected]> To: Donovan Cavers<[email protected]> Date: 30/08/2015 4:03 PM Subject: Re: (not urgent) Ahax ... CC: David Trawin<[email protected]> Attachments: image2.PNG

Hi Donovan,


Thanks,


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David Trawin Chief Administrative Officer City of Kam loops


Hi David,


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"News Kamloops"


thanks,




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From: Donovan Cavers <dcaversx@city .kamloops. be.ca> Arjun Singh<[email protected]> 30/08/2015 3:48 PM

To: Date: Subject: Re: (not urgent) Ajax ... CC: David Trawin<[email protected]>; Jen Fretz<[email protected]>; Peter

Milobar<[email protected]>; citycouncil<[email protected]>

??? Based on the conversation we just had that is your way of playing judge and jury ???

#unreal



On Aug 30, 2015, at 3:42 PM, Arjun Singh <asingh@city .kamloops.bc.ca> wrote:

I'm incredibly saddened and shocked by Donovan's response below and feel compelled to express a desire to see some strong formal censure for this behaviour. Arjun

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On Aug 30, 2015, at 5:19 PM, Donovan Cavers <[email protected]> wrote:

Fuck professionalism when it come to an OPEN PIT MINE IMMEDIATELY BESIDE PACIFIC WAY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL!!!

... 2 more votes against and it would be buried now .. .imagine moving on to something else?



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On Aug 29, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Peter Milobar <[email protected]> wrote:

Donovan ,

Your email is beyond unprofessional. It is one thing to question yet again SLR as the consultant.

However I can not believe, or sit quiet, as you not only question Mr. Trawin's professionalism but also his choice of investments and where he may or may not choose to live. The topper is a not so subtle and totally crass comment trying to direct him to divest of stocks of his choosing for his private investment reasons.

Your comments and add on's in this email and many others ( using an asterisk doesn't make the swearing better) are in my opinion continually treading a fine line. I would suggest we meet to go over what appropriate communications are .

You can choose not to but I would point out that other cities Councils have had to wind up putting members under censure and I would frankly not be opposed to looking into this if these types of comments and email tones continue.

Peter Milobar Mayor, City of Kamloops


Jen and David,

For context the quote I posted in the original email is apparently pulled directly off of the SLR website ... doesn't bode well for their ability to look in-depth at the probable city wide negatives associated with the project being approved. And I say negatives because the company will without a doubt cover off the 'positives' in the 'lovely' docomements that they submit to the BCEAO .

.. .I know that council and the public will dictate what our consultant focuses on but the post has rendered me somewhat skeptical of the choice of consultant ... do you believe SLR will be able to "satisfactorily" address ALL of the areas of concern Kamloopsians will FOR SURE bring forward as per the public consultation plan within the provincially dictated time frame?

Despite the way I might come across ... you are the director of the most challenging department, in the entire city, whilst acting as the municipal representative on the TWG

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and you, and your crew/team, are doing a stellar job .

... the better job the consultants do the less work it is for us right?

David- I get uber nervous when this type of thing 'crops up' because as one of the nine voices on city council I know (because I've seen the annual director financial disclosures) that your investments are "heavily weighted" toward funds that are into oil, gas, coal, etc, etc, and that hasn't changed over the last 3 years of annual director financial disclosures I've seen. I'm nearly certain that your professionalism totally supercedes personal biases but it makes me wonder [[long into the wee hours occasionally]] because you, as CAO, and your directors, and their managers, have a lot of sway every day of the week (some Tuesdays inclusive). Having said that I think you're doing a phenomenal job also. Just nix the "extractive resource stocks" for f*ck sakes!!!! #climatechange

.. . At least live up in Aberdeen near the mine site so that probably balances off your investment choices to some degree when it comes to the open pit mine "proplorsell".

Donovan

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Hi David,


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"News Kamloops"

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.. . Mel Rothenberger and Mike Youds are behind "News Kamloops"

thanks,





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Arjun Singh <[email protected]> Donovan Cavers<dcaversx@city .kamloops. be.ca> 30/08/2015 3:42 PM Re: (not urgent) Ajax ... Peter Milobar<[email protected]>; David Trawin<[email protected]>; Jen Fretz<:[email protected]>; citycouncil<[email protected]>

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I'm incredibly saddened and shocked by Donovan's response below and feel compelled to express a desire to see some strong formal censure for this behaviour. Arjun

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 30, 2015, at 5:19 PM, Donovan Cavers <[email protected]> wrote:


.. .2 more votes against and it would be buried now .. .imagine moving on to something else?




Donovan,




You can choose not to but I would point out that other cities Councils have had to wind up putting members under censure and I would frankly not be opposed to


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looking into this if these types of comments and email tones continue.



Jen and David,

For context the quote I posted in the original email is apparently pulled directly off of the SLR website ... doesn't bode well for their ability to look in-depth at the probable city wide negatives associated with the project being approved. And I say neeatives because the company will without a doubt cover off the 'positives' in the 'lovely' docomements that they submit to the BCEAO .


Despite the way I might come across ... you are the director of the most challenging department, in the entire city, whilst acting as the municipal representative on the TWG and you, and your crew/team, are doing a stellar job .


David- I get uber nervous when this type of thing 'crops up' because as one of the nine voices on city council I know (because I've seen the annual director financial disclosures) that your investments are "heavily weighted" toward funds that are into oil, gas, coal, etc, etc, and that hasn't changed over the last 3 years of annual director financial disclosures I've seen. I'm nearly certain that your professionalism totally supercedes personal biases but it makes me wonder [[long into the wee hours occasionally]] because you, as CAO, and your directors, and their managers, have a lot of sway every day of the week ( some Tuesdays inclusive). Having said that I think you're doing a phenomenal job also. Just nix the "extractive resource stocks" for f*ck sakes!!!! #climatechange

... At least live up in Aberdeen near the mine site so that probably balances off your investment choices to some degree when it comes to the open pit mine "proplorsell".

Donovan

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On Aug 29, 2015, at 1 :52 AM, Donovan Cavers <dcaversx@city .kamloops. be.ca> wrote:

Hi David,


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"News Kamloops"

... Mel Rothenberger and Mike Y ouds are behind "News Kamloops"

thanks,





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Donovan Cavers <[email protected]> Peter Milobar<[email protected]> 30/08/2015 2:19 PM Re: (not urgent) Ajax ... David Trawin<[email protected]>; Jen Fretz<[email protected]>; citycouncil<[email protected]>

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... 2 more votes against and it would be buried now .. .imagine moving on to something else?

Donovan Cavers Karn.loops City Councillor [email protected] @donovancavers 250.852.2264



Donovan,





Peter Milobar Mayor, City of Karn.loops



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Jen and David,







Donovan



David Trawin Chief Administrative Officer City ofKamloops


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Hi David,


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"News Kamloops"


thanks,





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From: Peter Milobar <[email protected]> To: Date:

Donovan Cavers<dcaversx@city .kamloops. be.ca> 29/08/2015 9:38 AM

Subject: Re: (not urgent) Ajax ... CC: David Trawin<[email protected]>; Jen Fretz<[email protected]>;

citycouncil<[email protected]>

Donovan,



Your comments and add on's in this email and many others ( using an asterisk doesn't make the swearing better) are in my opinion continually treading a fine line. I would suggest we meet to go over what appropriate communications are . ·




Jen and David,






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Donovan





Hi David,


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"News Kamloops"


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Donovan Cavers <dcaversx@city .kamloops. be.ca> <[email protected]><[email protected]> 29/08/2015 9:21 AM Re: (not urgent) Ajax ... Jen Fretz<[email protected]>

Jen and David,

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. .. I know that council and the public will dictate what our consultant focuses on but the post has rendered me somewhat skeptical of the choice of consultant ... do you believe SLR will be able to "satisfactorily" address ALL of the areas of concern Kamloopsians will FOR SURE bring forward as per the public consultation plan within the provincially dictated time frame?

Despite the way I might come across ... you are the director of the most challenging department, in the entire city, whilst acting as the municipal representative on the TWO and you, and your crew/team, are doing a stellar job .




Donovan





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Hi David,


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"News Kamloops"


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Modesta Luca - (not urgent) Ahax ...


Donovan Cavers <dcaversx@city .kamloops. be.ca> David Trawin<[email protected]> 29/08/2015 1:52 AM (not urgent) Ahax ... Jen Fretz<[email protected]>

Hi David,


"SLR is an international company with offices in

several B.C. cities including Kamloops. The firm

specializes in the energy and mining sectors as

well as in renewable and low~carbon energy, waste

management, and planning and development." So

they are not into pubJic health nor into a full scale

economic assessment where opportunity costs

are fully explored and weighed against the

proponent's projections. What does SLR exactJy

do except work to get mines approved? However I

may be wrong ... l will do further research, since the

info available here is somewhat "light".

"News Kam loops"


thanks,

Donovan Cavers Kamloops City Councillor

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