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Improved Standard Method of Measurement for Civil Engineering Works
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IMPROVED STANDARD METHOD OF MEASUREMENT FOR CIVIL ENGINEERING WORKS
IR. SOH KOK ENG
SMHB SDN BHD
5th April 2011
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INTRODUCTION History of CESMM & Bills of Quantities Basic differences between the 3 SMMs
ISSUES AND CHALLENGES IN USING SMM JKR 203A Conditions of Contract Issues in using SMM
FRAMEWORK OF MY-CESMM2 Two documents, MY-CESMM2, Guide & Std Library of BQ Structure of MY-CESMM2 Three Divisions of MY-CESMM2 and Rules
IMPROVEMENTS IN MY-CESMM2 GUIDELINES WITH TECHNICAL NOTES STANDARD LIBRARY OF BQ
Format of Standard Library How to use the Standard Library of BQ How to build up the BQ
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INTRODUCTION
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HISTORY OF CESMM & BQ 1859 Ö Formal BQ introduced 1933 Ö ICE introduced standard procedure for BQ 1953 Ö SMM for Civil Engineering Quantities (ICE) 1967 Ö CIRIA report 34 1968 Ö SMM for Civil Engg Quantities (metric) (ICE) 1976 Ö 1st Edition of CESMM-UK 1985 Ö 2nd Edition of CESMM-UK 1991 Ö 3rd Edition of CESMM-UK
SMM IN MALAYSIA CESMM3 Ö UK - 1991 CESMM(M) - 2003 SMM2 Ö ISM Ö 2001
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SOME BASIC DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE 3 SMMs
SMM2-ISM covers mainly building works and does not cover civil engineering works
CESMM(M) covers mainly civil engineering works and does not cover building works
CESMM(M) in tabulated format whereas SMM2-ISM in descriptive format
CESMM3-UK has separate items for supply and lay whereas CESMM(M) has supply and lay under 1 item
e.g. concreting works
CESMM3-UK Ö supply (1), lay (2)
CESMM(M) Ö supply and lay (1)
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SOME DEFINITIONS OF BQ The Bill of Quantities (BQ) is the agreed statement of the
prices which will be paid for work done by the Contractor for the Client and it shares with the drawings, specifications and schedules the responsibility for defining what has been agreed shall be done
The essential functions of the BQ is to limit the difficulty the Client has in forecasting and defining to a Contractor what is required to do.
On the other hand it limits the difficulty the Contractor has in forecasting precisely what the work will cost.
KEY WORD IS SPREADING THE RISKS
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ISSUES AND CHALLENGES IN USING SMM
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JKR 203A CONDITIONS OF CONTRACT
JKR 203A (Rev. 10/83) • Clause 26(b) requires the BQ to be prepared in accordance with the
SMM for Building Works prepared by Institute of Surveyors,
Malaysia
JKR 203A (2007) • Clause 26.4 in the new form allows SMM for preparation of BQ to
be also based on CESMM by ICE or any Method of Measurement as
set out in the BQ in addition to the SMM for Building Works by
ISM. Contractor says he uses CESMM3-UK to price it but the
Engineer says he is using SM-ISM?
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SOME ISSUES IN USING SMM
Although the Civil Engineering Standard Method of Measurement (CESMM) by ICE UK is often used for works of a civil engineering nature but there are many occasions particularly for, water supply, wastewater, etc, Consultants utilise their own Standard Method of Measurement.
Ö Under 1 Item - Supply, lay, including excavation, valves, thrust blocks, etc
Ö Under 4 Items - Excavation (I), Supply & Lay including joints (2), Valve (3), Thrust blocks (4)
Ö Under 7 Items - Excavation (I), Supply (2), Lay (3), Cutting of Pipes (4), Joints (5), Valve (6), Thrust blocks (7)
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SOME ISSUES IN USING SMM Trench excavation
Payment based on this
width?? Or this width??
If this width, what angle to
use??
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SOME ISSUES IN USING SMM
3 m
7 m
SOME SAY OTHERS
Piling works
Pay 10m for supply and 7 m for driving
Pay 7m for supply and 7 m for driving
Who can say exactly what depth of pile to be driven??
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FRAMEWORK OF MY-CESMM2
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FRAMEWORK OF MY-CESMM2
MY-CESMM2 Guide to MY-CESMM2 with Technical Notes Standard Library of BQ
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STRUCTURE OF MY-CESMM2
Process Approach
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THREE DIVISIONS OF MY-CESMM2 AND RULES
Each division only 8 items (max), WHY???
3 digit code number, B358, B3510???
B359.1 Ö Manganese, B359.2 - Iron
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FRAMEWORK OF MY-CESMM2
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IMPROVEMENTS IN MY-CESMM2
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Rule C2 - Item for general clearance shall be deemed to include the removal of trees and stumps (unless otherwise stated in item descriptions), undergrowth, shrubs, roots and the likes.
Rule M2 - Where measurement for trees are expressly required, it shall be measured under item for trees.
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Excavate to fill measured as 2 items but excavate to dispose measured for only cut
Rule D5 - Excavation to form a profile expressly required shall be classed as cut.
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Rule M19 - All filling shall be measured nett. Excavation in fill shall only be measured where it is expressly required.
OGL
FILL
STRUCTURE
OGL
FILL
STRUCTURES
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Rule C1 - Items for painting shall be deemed to include preparation of surfaces before painting including all necessary Temporary Staging.
Rule C2 - Items for painting shall state and include the application of base primer/ sealer required before painting the subsequent coats.
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Malaysian Standard Method of Measurement for Civil Engineering Works (MY-CESMM2)
Feedback on MY-CESMM2
1.5m
2.0m
2.5m
3.0m
3.5m
150m
50m 50m 25m 25m
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Water Malaysia 2011
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Improved Standard Method of Measurement for Civil Engineering Works
Water Malaysia 2011
GUIDELINES WITH TECHNICAL NOTES
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Improved Standard Method of Measurement for Civil Engineering Works
Water Malaysia 2011
GUIDELINES WITH TECHNICAL NOTES Each class arranged with a section numbering system which corresponds
with the First and Second Division
A210 Ö Facilities for the Engineer/S.O./PD’s representative, where, • A - Class A: General Items • 2 - Second item in the First Division • 1 - First Item in the Second Division
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Improved Standard Method of Measurement for Civil Engineering Works
Water Malaysia 2011
GUIDELINES WITH TECHNICAL NOTES
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Improved Standard Method of Measurement for Civil Engineering Works
Water Malaysia 2011
GUIDELINES WITH TECHNICAL NOTES
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Improved Standard Method of Measurement for Civil Engineering Works
Water Malaysia 2011
GUIDELINES WITH TECHNICAL NOTES
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Improved Standard Method of Measurement for Civil Engineering Works
Water Malaysia 2011
GUIDELINES WITH TECHNICAL NOTES
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Improved Standard Method of Measurement for Civil Engineering Works
Water Malaysia 2011
STANDARD LIBRARY OF BQ
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Water Malaysia 2011
STANDARD LIBRARY
Code numbers are important feature in CESMM but it is the most difficult to use and therefore not widely used
Standard Library with code numbers
Format in Excel as it is widely used
Used as a checklist and copy items to BQ as required
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Water Malaysia 2011
STANDARD LIBRARY
How to use the Standard Library of BQ
One spreadsheet file contains multiple sheets
Open up a standard spreadsheet file and format to Std BQ format
Click on relevant class of work and scroll down until the desired item
Copy the required item in the user spreadsheet file
The item description as guide only and are with á[…….]à or á(…..)à
After the editing is done, the á[…….]à or á(…..)à should be removed
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Water Malaysia 2011
STANDARD LIBRARY
How to use the Standard Library of BQ
Multiple items with the same code numbers
if only [100mm square] direct shear box test is required, the code
number shall be changed to D525 only and NOT D525.1
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Water Malaysia 2011
STANDARD LIBRARY
How to build up the BQ
75mm thick Grade C20 lean concrete
Grade C35A concrete for base and wall
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Water Malaysia 2011
STANDARD LIBRARY
How to build up the BQ
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Water Malaysia 2011