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Dr. Elizabeth Detmer, C. Psych. Sickkids Team Obesity Management Program (STOMP) The Hospital for Sick Children Dr. Annick Buchholz, C. Psych. Centre for Healthy Active Living (CHAL); Pediatric Research on Eating Disorders and Obesity (PREDO) Unit

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Page 1: Dr. Elizabeth Detmer, C. Psych . Sickkids Team …...Practice & coaching • Mastery of a complex skill takes prac

Dr.ElizabethDetmer,C.Psych.SickkidsTeamObesityManagementProgram(STOMP)

TheHospitalforSickChildren

Dr.AnnickBuchholz,C.Psych.CentreforHealthyActiveLiving(CHAL);

PediatricResearchonEatingDisordersandObesity(PREDO)Unit

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Outline1. Reviewwhychildrenandteens/familiesarereluctanttotalkaboutweight,bodyimage,ea<ng,&exercise.

2. Learnhowfamiliesandchildrenwouldlikehealthcareproviders(HCP)toapproachandworkonweightissues.3. ReviewfundamentalsofMo<va<onalInterviewingandprac<cespecifictechniques.

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“I’ve always known, even in kindergarten, that something was wrong with me . . that I was bigger . . . and that it was my own fault.”

“I’ve always felt - even in kindergarten - that something was wrong with me . . that I was bigger . . . and that it was my own fault.”

16 year old STOMP Patient

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KidsarePrejudicedAgainstHeavierPeopleatAge4

Heavier Alfie was less likely to do well in school, to be happy with the way he looks, or to get invited to parties They rated heavier Alfie as more likely to be naughty and as having fewer friends that Thomas to play with

Hill(2013).EuropeanCongressonObesity(ECO).

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TeasingandBullyinginAdolescenceAdolescentreportsofwhypeersareteased/bullied,and

observedfrequency(N=1555)

Yaleruddcenter.org(2014);Puhletal.,JSchoolHealth(2011)

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AWeightObsessedWorld

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SocietalPressures

•  InWesternSocietythemediaisapowerfulinLluenceandpressureonyouthtoday

• Bodyimagemessagesareeverpresentandtypicallystate:•  Thinwomenarebeautiful,successfulandhappy

•  Muscular,leanmenarehandsomeandsuccessful

Grabe et al. Psychological Bulletin (2003)

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MixedMessagesintheMediaAroundBodyImageandFood

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• 47%ofoverweightgirlsand34%ofoverweightboysreportbeingteasedabouttheirweightbytheirparents

• 72%ofoverweightadultsreportedtheyhadexperiencedweightbiasfromfamilymembersaschildren

PuhlRMetal.,JSchHealth(2011);PuhlRMetal.,PsychBull(2007)

WeightBiasatHome

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CultureofValuingThinnessWeightBias

HighBodySelf-ConciousnessLowBodyEsteem

HighWeightPreoccupa<on

Die<ngPrac<ceWeightLossStrategies

Increasedoverea<ngEmo<onalea<ngBingeEa<ng

Shame,guilt,anger,sadnessIncreasedweightover<me

TheNegativeSpiral

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WeightBias

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BodyImage

•  Themostimportantself--esteemdomaininboysandgirls,andmenandwomen.

Harter,1999;A`e&Brooks-Gunn,1989;S<ce&Shaw,2002;Neumark-Sztainer,etal.,2006

•  Strongpsychologicalcorrelateofdisordered

ea<ngandobesity.

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AChild’s‘Best’BMIMayNeverBeHisorHer‘Ideal’BMI

Key Principles

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NeuroendocrineControlofEnergyBalance

Science. Feb 7, 2003

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WhoisHealthier?

HealthatEverySize:HAES®

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HealthManagement

Aaron12yo,BMI22kg/m2

Plays3hoursofvideogamesanight,isbeingbulliedatschool,

andhasfewfriends.Skipsbreakfast.Sleeps8hoursanight.Liveswithhismomandhasno

contactwithhisdad.

Jeff12yo,BMI22kg/m2

Excelsinschool,hasmanyfriends.Ac<vewithschoolsportsteams.Hassuppor<veparents.Sleeps10hoursanight.Hasnobiochemicalorclinicalevidenceofweightrelatedhealthcomplica<ons.

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•  Sizeacceptance•  Recognizes<gmaandbiases•  Understandandvalidatebodyimageconcerns•  No-die<ngapproach•  Focusonhealthbehaviours,notweight

HealthAtEverySizeFramework

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ExplainBeneLitsofHealthBehaviours•  ThefirstgoalistoSTABILIZEBMI

• Changesinhealthbehaviourscanresultinsubstan<alhealthbenefitsincludingimprovementsin:

o  Lipidprofileo  Bloodglucosecontrolo  Bloodpressurecontrolo  Fitnesso  Sleepo  Bodyimage

o  Self-esteemo  Coping

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DiscussingWeightwithYouth

• Approachwithsensi<vity“Howdoyoufeelaboutyourhealth,body?”

•  Speaktotheirmo<va<ons“Doyoufeelthatyourweightisinterfering?”

• Promote/ProtectBodyEsteem“AtCHAL,wethinkthatallbodyshapesandsizesareaorac<veandcanbehealthy;weareheretohelpyouachieveyourbestphysicalandmentalhealth”

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BodyEsteemActivities• Educateaboutmediaanddiscussionaboutbeauty

• Addresssocialanxietyandbodyesteem• Stopweighingyourself-esteem• Tellyourchildthathe/sheisbeau<fulopen

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Takinguponesideofaninternalargument,

elicitstheothersideoftheargument

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Bem’sselfperceptiontheory• Webecomegraduallymorecommittedtothatwhichwevoice.

• Elicitingcounter-changeargumentsdecreasesthelikelihoodofchange.

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Confrontation&defensiveness•  Levelofclientdefensivenessisstronglyinfluencedbytheinterviewer

•  Acounselor’sconfronta<onelicitsdefensiveness

• Clientdefensivenesspredictslackofbehaviorchange

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Whatisthebestwaytohelppeoplelookatthreateninginforma5onand

letitchangethem?

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•  Empathetic counseling technique to elicit

‘change talk’

•  Core principles: •  Expressing empathy •  Developing discrepancy •  Rolling with resistance •  Supporting self efficacy

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EvidenceforMI–Resnicowetal.,2015

•  MIdeliveredbyPrimaryCareProviders&RegisteredDie<<anstoparentsofoverweightchildren(2-8years)over2years

•  Compared•  Group1:Usualcare•  Group2:4PCPMIsessionstoparents•  Group3:4PCPMIsessions+6RDsessionstoparents

•  Group3experiencedsta<s<callysignificantreduc<onsinBMIpercen<les

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EvidenceforMI–Pakpouretal.,2015

•  MIdeliveredbytrainedinterven<onists(e.g.RegisteredDie<<ans,ExerciseSpecialists)toadolescents(14–18years)over12months

•  Compared:•  Group1:UsualCare•  Group2:Six40minutesMIsessionwithadolescentonly•  Group3:Six40minuteMIsessionswithadolescentplusone60minuteMIsessiontoparents

•  Group3showedexperiencedsignificantlyimprovedhealthbehaviorsandgreaterweightloss(BMIzscores)

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EightTasksinLearningMotivationalInterviewing

1 OverallSpiritofMo<va<onalInterviewing

2 OARS–ClientCenteredCounselingSkills

3 RecognizingChangeandSustainTalk

4 Elici<ngandStrengtheningChangeTalk

5 RollingwithSustainTalkandResistance

6 DevelopingaChangePlan

7 Consolida<ngCommitment

8 Transi<onandBlending

Motivational Interviewing Training New Trainers, September, 2014

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Practice&coaching•  Masteryofacomplexskilltakesprac<ce.•  Withoutreliablefeedbackoneisunlikelytolearnitwell.•  Acoach/teachermustbeabletoobserve.Thetenniscoachhastowatchyouprac<ce;thepianoteachermustlistentoyouplay.

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OverallspiritofMI

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GoodMI•  Talklessthanyourclientdoes•  Addressfeelingbeforefixing•  ReLlecttwiceforeachquestionyouask•  Whenyoudoaskquestions,askmostlyopenquestions•  Avoidgettingaheadofyourclient’slevelofreadiness•  Rollwithresistanceversusconfront•  Elicitchangetalkversusinform/advise•  AfLirmeffortandcommitment•  Giveuptheexpertrole

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FundamentalsofMI-OARS•  Openendedques<ons•  Affirma<ons•  Reflec<ons•  Summarystatements

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Openendedquestions:•  Cannotbeansweredwithayesornoorveryshortphrase

•  Examples:“Whatstrategieshaveworkedforyouinthepast?”“Whatkindsofhealthychangeswouldyouliketofocusonthisweek?”

AfLirmations:•  Statementsthatrecognizetheclient’semotionsandstrengths

•  Examples:“DealingwithweightissuesisdifLicult,”“Youhaveworkedsohard.”

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ReLlections:•  Letthepatientknownotonlythatyouarelisteningbutthatyouarehearingwhattheyaresaying

•  Example:“So,yousayyourchildrenwon'teatvegetables,andtheyareexpensive,butyoufeelyoucanpreparethemforyourself.”

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SummaryStatements•  Collectingmaterialthathasbeenofferedbythepatientintoaconclusivestatement

•  Example:“You'veexpressedconcernaboutyourweight,hypertension,andfamilyhealthhabits.”

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FundamentalsofMIAskpermissionto-

•  Approachadifficulttopic•  Giveadvice

Whengivingop<ons/advice-

•  Provideatleast2op<ons•  Undersell–“Thismightwork,Idon’tknow”

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ExamplesofhowtoapproachdifLiculttopics

•  Would it be alright if we discussed your (child’s) weight?

•  Are you concerned about your (child’s) health/weight?

•  Can I share some information with you about cholesterol levels and why that information can be important?

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Givechoices

SedentaryBehaviour

MentalHealth/BodyImage

PhysicalAc?vity

Sleep

Ea?ngBehaviours

SedentaryBehaviourSleep

Topicofyourchoice

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Rollingwithresistance•  Reflect the resistant statement:

You don’t like this idea. •  Reflect the tone of what you are hearing:

You seem to feel hopeless. You’re not happy about . . .

•  Reflect ambivalence: On the one hand you want . . . and on the other you don’t think you can . . .

•  Acknowledge the resistance process: I’ve gotten us off track here.

•  Support choice/control: It’s up to you. You are in charge here.

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Rollingwithresistance-Exercise•  Writedown1-3resistantorsustaintalkstatementsyouhaveheardfrompa<entsandfamilies•  Examples:Ireallyhatevegetables,Ican’texercisebecausemyjointshurt.

•  Taketurnsreadingthesestatementstotherestofyourtable.•  Collec<velyasatablegiverepliesthatdodgeand/orrollwiththeresistance.Youcanusereflec<ons,reframesorstatementsthatemphasizethatthepa<enthascontrol.

•  Writedowntheresponsesyoulikethebest.•  Con<nuearoundthetableun<ltheworkshopfacilitatorscall<me.

•  Decideasatablewhichareyourfavoritesandsharewiththelargergroup.

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Ultimategoal–increasechangeandcommitmenttalk

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Typesofchangetalk•  Desire–Whydoyouwanttomakethischange?•  Ability–Howmightyyoubeabletodoit?•  Reasons–Whatisonegoodreasonformakingthechange?•  Need–Howimportantisitandwhy(0-10)?

•  Commitment–Whatdoyouintendtodo?•  Ac<va<on–Whatareyoureadyandwillingtodo?•  TakingSteps–Whathaveyoualreadydone?

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RespondingtochangetalkElaborate

Askforelabora<onoranexample(itwhatways,how,etc.)Affirma?on

Offeraffirma<on(agree,encourage,praisesupport)Reflect

Reflectwhatthepersonhassaid

Remember–it’saboutthinkingaheadtoavoidtheroadblocks

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Bestresponsetoincreasechangetalk“Ireallydon’twanttochangethewayIeatbutIknowthatIshould.I’vetriedbeforeandit’sreallyhard.”

A.  Youreallydon’twanttochangeyourea<ng.B.  It’spreoycleartoyouthatyououghttomakeachangein

yourea<ng.C.  You’renotsureifyoucanchangeyourea<ng.

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Bestresponsetoincreasechangetalk“Familymealssoundgreatintheorybutwearetoobusytomakethemwork.Thekids’schedulesareallovertheplaceanditisimpossibleforustositdownatthesame<me.”

A.  Becauseofyourfamily’sbusyschedule,youfeellikefamilymealsareimpossible.

B.  It’sveryhardtofinda<methateveryonecansitdowntogether.

C.  Youliketheideaoffamilymeals.

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Bestresponsetoincreasechangetalk“Ihavetobehonest.Ihavenotdonethebreakfastthingatall.Idon’treallyhaveanexcuse.I’vedoneokaywithea<ngaliolebitatlunchandusingtheplatemethodatdinnerbutIjustdon’tlikeea<ngbreakfast.”A.  It’sreallyhardtoeatbreakfast.B.  You’refeelinggoodabout2outof3ofyourgoals.C.  Youyoureallydon’tlikeea<ngbreakfastandyoudon’t

knowhowyouwillworkitintoyourday.

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5questionstoincreasechangetalk

•  Whywouldyouwanttomakethischange?•  Ifyoudiddecidetomakethischange,howmightyougoaboutitinordertosucceed?

•  Whatarethethreebestreasonsforyoutodoit?•  Howimportantwouldyousayitisforyoutomakethischange,onascalefrom0to10,where0isnotatallimportant,and10isextremelyimportant?

•  Whyareyouat___insteadof___[alowernumber]?

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Follow-upto5questions•  Aperyouhavelistenedcarefullytotheanswerstotheseques<ons:

Givebackashortsummaryoftheperson’smo<va<onsforchange.

•  Thenask:Sowhatdoyouthinkyou’lldo?

Listenwithinteresttotheanswer.

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Roleplay

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Resources

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AcknowledgementsDr.JillHamiltonDr.CatherineBirkenDr.AleneToulanyDr.AndreaReginaPree<Grewal,NPDanielleBerard,NPAndreaLeyser,RNMelanieGelfand,MSWAlisaBar-Dayan,RDAlissaSteinberg,RDKelseyGallagher,RDAllisonLougheed,B.S.SejalPatel,PT

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Ea<ngDisordersProgram,especially:Dr.WendySpe7gue Dr.JuliePerkinsDr.MarkNorris Dr.ClareRoscoeDr.StephenFeder Dr.MeganHarrisonDr.JuliePerkins Dr.NicoleObeid

CentreforHealthyAc<veLiving,especially:Dr.AnnickBuchholz Dr.LaurieClark FaImaKazoun,ResearchAssociate Dr.StasiaHadjiyannakisCharmaineMohipp,ResearchAssociate

CHEO’sCentreforHealthyAc<veLivingandObesityResearchGroup,especially:Dr.GaryGoldfield

PREDO:NicoleHammond,ResearchCoordinator

PediatricResearchonEatingDisordersandObesity(PREDO)

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