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Hannah Burlingame
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For some, gardening is a life-style. For others it’s a casual sum-mer activity. And then there arethose folks who have tried garden-ing once or twice and ended upfeeling like they will never have agreen thumb.
If you’re someone who has had a garden in pa st years,you’ve probably already begun
your prep work for this growingseason.If you’re thinking of planting a
garden for the first time, keep inmind the following tips, and you’ll
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A trip to the garden centerYour first stop after decid-
ing you want develop a gardenshould be to your local garden
Add some color to your backyard
Begonias are annual flowers that do well in partial sun and in some cases full sun. They aregreat for both gardens and containers. see SURVIVING on page 5
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center, but come prepared to answer some ques-tions.
Decide where you want to plant your flowers.How much light does the area you want to plant inget? What type of light does it get?
If you’re planting in heavily shaded areas or spotsthat only get morning sun, rely on greenery like
hostas or ferns.If your plot gets four or five hours of morning
sun, impatiens will thrive and provide continuouscolor.
Once you know what the level of sunshine you
have, you can determine what annuals and peren-nials have the best chance of succeeding in yournew flowerbed.
The folks at the garden center will also wantto know your soil content. Is it clay, sand, peat or
black dirt? The experts say flowers will grow inmost soils, except for dense clay.
“If you’ve got a clay soil, we’re going to have tofix it. You’ll have to dig out some clay and it’s hardwork because clay is very difficult,” says BrianPletscher of Pletschers’ Greenshouses.
Tell the people at your local garden center as
much information as you can about where youare putting your plants. This will help ensure the
plants they give you have a chance of survivingonce in the ground.
How to keep plants aliveThe biggest reason most plants don’t survive
is because of water. Either they are being under
watered or over watered.When getting ready to plant for a new season,
clean off the area you will be planting in. Alsomake sure the mois-ture stays even in thearea you will be plant-ing in.
Kathy Harrell, thegarden center man-ager at North HeightsHardware Hanks,says when plant-
ing, flower should bewatered well, especially if there hasn’t been muchrain in recent days. After that, water the flowersabout once a week, especially during dry spells and
hot weather. She says it’s important that the soildoesn’t become too dry.
An easy way of determining if you need to wateris gently poking your finger in the soil around yourplants. You want about one to two inches of dry soil
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Surviving...continued from page 3
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If you’re watering deep every few days, the plants will have a better root system.
But remember that plants shouldn’t be sitting inwater. If a plant has wilted but the soil is wet, thismeans you probably over watered and the rootsdrowned
“Deadheading” produces more bloomsMany varieties of flowers will rebloom if you cut off
their faded blooms. “There’s a benefit to it. You can’tover deadhead,” Harrell says.
Fertilizing can help with reblooms as well. You shouldfertilize your flowerbeds every two to three weeks allsummer.
If you’re having issues getting a plant to survive in aspace, try moving it somewhere else. Once you find aplace that works, remember or write it down so you canreplant it there next year.
What’s new in gardens?Container planting is becoming increasingly popular.
Mark Armstead of Beisswenger’s says people are nowpicking corners and sections to garden for containers
Adapting...continued from page 5
Coleus is a leafing plant that comes in a variety of color combinations. They are easy to grow and can be
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Plants that are daisy like are good pollinator plants. Minnesota is home to more
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There are more options of flowers thatcan be planted in containers and morevarieties of planters than in the past. Ifyou are considering growing outdoorplants in containers, make sure thereis adequate drainage. Without drainage
holes, water sits in the bottom of the potand the plant roots will rot.
More people are starting to plant herbsin their containers for their beauty andto eat. Pletscher says 25 years ago hisgreenhouses were barely selling any herbplants, but now they have really takenoff.
Everyone’s talking pollinatorsSomething else gaining popularity is
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What if you want it to be edible?If you have a hankering to start a veg-
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The size of your garden can determinewhat you can plant. Some plants, likepumpkin or squash vines, require lotsof room. Other vegetables like tomatoes
Pollinators...continued from page 8
see EDIBLE on page 10
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and peppers don’t require as much room because they grow upright.
One reason you may not have hadgood results in the past is your vegeta-
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water.Cole crops can be planted when the soilis still a little cool. Cole crops include Brus-sels sprouts, cabbage, onions and potatoes.These plants grow better in the coolerweather and soil. More energy is put intoroot crops with cooler temperatures. Thismeans bigger and crisper radishes. Cooltemperatures produce more sugar.
If you plant cole crops when theweather is too warm, you risk bolting.When bolting happens, edible parts ofthe plant go bad and become mostlyflower based instead of leaf based.
Other vegetables should be plantedwhen the soil is warm like tomatoes andpeppers.
Planting times depend on soil temper-atures and the likelihood of frost, butcole crops are generally planted aroundthe beginning of May, and warmer cropsplanted closer to the end of May.
When planting vegetables, switch whatside of the planter bed you had them on
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If you planted vegetables in the pastand had disappointing results, it might be
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that you are harvesting throughout thegrowing season. This is another reasonto start with cole crops and wait on thewarmer crops. Armstead says that if avegetable garden is planted all at once,everything reaches maturity at the sametime and people get a “harvest dump.”
He recommends staggering when youplant crops. For instance, he suggestsplanting two feet of a crop, waiting acouple weeks and then planting anothertwo feet of the same crop. This way you
have fresh veggies all season long.Most of all enjoy your time gardening.Plants aren’t people so don’t be afraid totry something new. The experts say that
by doing little bits of work at a time andkeeping these tips in mind, you can havea colorful, thriving garden this seasonwithout wearing yourself out.
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Edible...continued from page 9
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Hannah Burlingamestaff writer
How can you know if it is time toremodel your home? Do you need awhole-house remodel or just an updateof a room that looks like it is stuck inthe ‘80s.
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your home without having to do a total
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Decorating in St. Paul says homeownersneed to consider the amount of trafficthe area gets, because the durability offlooring materials varies.
While you don’t have to spend a tonof money on new flooring if you planto sell your home, you still want qualitymaterials.
Potential buyers can tell when sell-ers install bottom-of-the-rung carpeting
or vinyl flooring. Faerber-Poole recom-mends going for something in the mid-price ranges.
LVT, or Luxury Vinyl Tile, is becom-ing a popular option for new flooring aswell as plank ceramic tile that resembleswood.
If you are fixing up to sell, hardwood isa “buzz word” for potential buyers. Car-pet is a good option for areas you want tofeel warm and cozy like bedrooms.
You can be more adventuresome withflooring if you are planning to live inyour home for a while. Miranda Lind
from Abbey Carpet suggests pickingflooring that fits your lifestyle and pref-erences.
“Following trends is important tosome people, but at the same time ifyou’re living in the home it should bewhat you want,” Lind says.
It makes sense to think in terms ofresale if you are going to sell within ayear or two, but not when you are plan-ning to stay in the home for the foresee-able future.
Patterned carpets are something peopleare beginning to put into their homes inspecial areas like master suites.
Total overhaulSometimes a remodel means more than
just new floors or a fresh coat of paint.
Greg Alsterlund of McDonald Remod-eling says homeowners should startwith focusing on the goals of a remod-eling project. What about your kitchendon’t you like? What isn’t workingabout a given space?
“I always focus on what do you want
to do, because at the end of the day ifall you’re going to do is spend time andmoney and effort it still might not workfor you,” Alsterlund says.
Before meeting with different contrac-tors, have a design and specificationsfor what you want. If working with adesigner, have an open mind for pos-sible suggestions.
“Everyone needs to be one the samepage as far as what they, the contrac-tors, are bidding so you don’t get a
wide swing of costs,” says Don Hrubyof Rossbach Construction in North St.Paul.
When looking into contractors, checkthem out with the Better BusinessBureau and ask for references.
With remodeling, concrete is becom-
ing a popular option for countertops.Another trend if doing whole-homeremodeling is wood flooring rollingthrough several rooms. It helps createthe feeling of a larger space.
“If you’re heading out in a coupleyears, [you should] select or do things
differently than the folks who are notmoving,” Alsterlund says.
If you are remodeling to sell, he saysdon’t get emotionally attached to a coloror the very latest design trends.
If a room is in need of repair so the home looks better for selling Hruby saysdon’t spend a ton of money on it. Littlefixes like new laminate countertops ornew vinyl flooring can help update thespace.
When updating your home, remember
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14 Home & Garden
Hannah Burlingamestaff writer
Ever wonder how to get wildlife, especially birds, tocome into your yard? Well, maybe it’s time you give
bird feeders a try.Kraig Kelsey, owner of Kelsey’s Wild Bird Store, says
bird feeding is one of the fastest growing hobbies inthe country.
While the perception may still be that bird feedingis mainly an activity enjoyed by empty nesters withspare time on their hands, Kelsey says that’s changing.Although he has a large base of older customers, he’sseeing growing numbers of young people browsing thestore and buying their first bird feeders.
It’s a trend that’s likely to continue, since birdwatch-ing has become one of the most popular hobbies in thenation.
“You either like it or you don’t like it,” Kelsey says,
and increasing people are not just liking it ... they’re lovin’ it.
Because the Twin Cities is part of Mississippi RiverCorridor Central Flyway, there’s a more diverse wild-
life population here than most metropolitan areas, says Jeannie Kratzer, manager of the wild bird departmentat Beisswenger’s in New Brighton. The Mississippi isa major corridor for birds migrating to northern Min-nesota, Canada and the Artic in the spring, and then
heading south to the Gulf of Mexico, Florida and Cen-tral and South America every autumn.
Since so many birds use the Mississippi River as aguide during migration season, Twin Citians are ableto observe species they normally wouldn’t see duringthe nesting season. Many of those migrants, every-thing from colorful purple finches and rose-breastedgrosbeaks to hermit thrushes and yellow-bellied sap-suckers, will drop by backyard feeders to fuel up as
they journey up north or down south.
Getting startedFor people interested in bird feeding, Kelsey recom-
mends starting with one feeder. A common choice isa Nyger (rhymes with tiger) “thistle” hanging feeder.This type of feeder and food attracts goldfinches and
house finches year round, and migrating visitors likecommon redpolls, pine siskins and tree sparrows.
Because thistle is such a small seed, a feeder needssmall holes so the seed doesn’t just fall out. Thefinches love this food, which needs to be changed
every few weeks to maintain its freshness.Another good choice for someone just starting out is
an all-around feeder with a large platform or edge for both big and small birds to stand on. There are tubefeeders with trays or hopper feeders. These feedersattract cardinals, bluejays, juncos, chickadees, and a
host of migrating sparrows and finches.Figure out what type of feeder works with your
budget. There are a variety of other feeders to pickfrom including suet and peanut feeders, and feedersdesigned for certain species like Baltimore orioles and
ruby-throated hummingbirds.
Location, location, locationWhere you put the feeder is just as important as the
feeder itself. Different birds prefer feeders at different heights and locations.
Wooded areas mean you have to deal with other ani-
mals, but also means you may attract more birds.Squirrel guards and squirrel-proof feeders can pre-
vent the critters from shimmying up the pole andreaching the feeder.
There also are foods that deter unwanted animals.Because of the bitter taste, most animals like squirrels
leave safflower seeds alone.If placing your feeder in a tree, keep these numbers
in mind. Kratzer says squirrels can jump six to eightfeet from the trunk of a tree and three feet from a
branch. She also recommends keeping the bottom ofa feeder five or six feet of the ground to help prevent
deer and raccoons from getting at it.Hanging a feeder on a deck makes it an easy target
for squirrels and raccoons. If you are going to put afeeder on a deck, get a squirrel-proof feeder and a polethat extends the feeder beyond the raccoons’ reach.
Feed maintenanceKelsey recommends people store their birdseed in a
metal container, so mice can’t get at it.
A good starting feeder is a hopper. It allows for both large and small birds to use the same feeder.
Call of the wildBird feeding is an easy way to get back to nature
see FEEDERS on page 15
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Just like humans, birds prefer freshfoods, and will avoid seeds that have
been in feeders for several weeks ormonths
After heavy rains, the birdseed in feed-ers can mildew. When that happens, theseeds need to be tossed out. To avoidthis, Kelsey suggests taking a feederdown and storing it somewhere drywhen thunderstorms are in the forecast.
What do they eat?
Different birds prefer different seeds.An inexpensive option sold at big boxretailers is a mixed-seed bag that hasan overall yellow appearance becauseit contains a lot of milo, millet andcracked corn.
Unfortunately, the birds people wantat their feeders don’t eat the milo andcorn. However, this mix is a way tooffer seed to those with a tight budget.
One favorite among birds is black oilsunflower seeds.
“That’s like filet mignon steak to the birds ,” Kratzer says with a chuc kle.
Buying this seed by itself is pretty inex-pensive as well.
The “steak, potatoes and dessert”seed is a combination of nuts, seeds andfruit. This gives options for both birdswith seed cracking beaks and those thateat fruit or insects.
A bird with a wide-shaped beak likea cardinal is a seed-cracking bird. Asharp-pointed beak is for spearing bugsand fruit.
Sugar water can attract humming- birds in the summer. Grape jelly attractsorioles, and cardinals like safflower.Knowing what feed attracts what birdscan help customize what species you seein your yard.
Kelsey recommends getting a field
guide so you can identify what birds arein your yard.
Another big part of bird feeding is giv-ing them a fresh source of water.
More and more folks are finding that backyard bird feeding can be an easyway to enjoy nature and reduce stress.
Stop by your local garden center, hardware shop or wild bird store to getstarted.
Hannah Bur lin gam e can be reache d
at 651-748-7824 or [email protected].
courtesy of MJ Boswell, Wiki commons
Goldfinchs are one type of bird that eats Thistle/Nyger. The feeders need a
spot for the bird to sit as they eat the small seed.
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17 Home & Garden
How to make the outdoorsanother room of your house
Hannah Burlingame
staff writer
Minnesotans only have a handful ofmonths in which to enjoy their back-yards.
By creating outdoor living spaces,you can get the most enjoyment andrelaxation out of those months.
Unfortunately, constructing outdoor living spaces can get expensive, espe-cially if you keep adding amenities. But
by having a plan ahead of time you canease into projects while saving moneyand avoiding headaches.
Figure out spaceThe first step after deciding that you
want to have an outdoor space is mea-suring your yard to determine whatyou can fit in, says Sue Morrison ofD-Rock Center in New Brighton. Thismay mean an outdoor kitchen and sit-ting area, or a patio sitting area and firepit.
Morrison says if homeowners wantanything beyond an outdoor sittingarea, they should consider a space thatis at least 150 square feet. However, ifthe space is just going to be a sittingarea, it can be whatever size the hom-eowners want.
What do you want to spendAnother thing to consider before
embarking on building an outdoor liv-ing space is budget.
If you aren’t able to do the workyourself, Morrison says the rule ofthumb is to double or triple your prod-uct cost to hire out the project.
“You really want it to be there for-ever, so you don’t want to cut corners.If you cut corners, you may be cuttingthe life out of it,” Morrison says.
When building outdoor spaces, it’ssmart to invest in good products thatare going to last in Minnesota’s freeze-and-thaw cycles.
Doing the work yourself is one of the biggest ways to save money. However,there are some aspects Morrison rec-ommends leaving to the experts, suchas installing natural gas lines or plumb-
ing work.“Anything inside your house that
you would have to have inspected or acertified person doing it, definitely thesame applies for outside,” Morrisonsays.
What is used for the outdoor flooringcan affect cost. Prices can vary greatly
between material like pavers, graveland tile. Using gravel like driveway trapcan sometimes save thousands of dol-
lars.Determining your priorities can help
decide what fits in the budget and whatdoesn’t. Over the long term, would youprefer a cobblestone floor for your new
outdoor space, or will you be just as happy with the less expensive crushedpebbles?
Prices for projects can vary greatlydepending on size of space, productand amount of work done by the hom-eowners.
Who will use it?When designing your outdoor space,
it is important to keep in mind if kids,adults or both will use this area.
Besides figuring out what the spacewill be used for, also keep in mindwhere it will be situated. If you’re
building an outdoor kitchen, you prob-ably don’t want the smoke from thegrill wafting back toward the house.The same goes for installing a fire pitor outdoor fireplace.
If you are creating an outdoorkitchen, keep in mind the size of appli-ances. The bigger the appliance and themore appliances you have, the biggerspace you need.
Just like an indoor kitchen or room,you will want plenty of room for storage.
What else to keep in mindEach city has certain requirements or
codes. Check with your community to learn about ordinances and what build-ing permits you may need.
Always make sure to check with util-ity companies before you start diggingto make sure you aren’t going to hitany buried utility lines.
Some businesses, like D-Rock, offer afree service to help homeowners designand get ideas for outdoor spaces. Theywill help work out costs and breakdown what needs to be done.
Morrison recommends homeowners
take baby steps when working on theiroutdoor spaces.
“Don’t feel like you have to do it allin one jump. If you want to start doingsomething, start with just a patio and
little by little add from there,” Morri-son says.
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