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How extensive (long) should hindcasts be? Huug van den Dool Climate Prediction Center, NCEP/NWS/NOAA Suranjana Saha Environmental Modeling Center, NCEP/NWS/NOAA

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How extensive (long) should hindcasts be?. Huug van den Dool Climate Prediction Center, NCEP/NWS/NOAA Suranjana Saha Environmental Modeling Center, NCEP/NWS/NOAA. Explained Variance (%) Feb 1981-2001; lead 3 (Nov starts); monthly T2m (US, CD data). - PowerPoint PPT Presentation

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Page 1: How extensive (long) should hindcasts be?

How extensive (long) should hindcasts be?

Huug van den Dool Climate Prediction Center, NCEP/NWS/NOAA

Suranjana SahaEnvironmental Modeling Center, NCEP/NWS/NOAA

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MODEL

SEC

CFS EC PLA METF UKM INGV LOD CERF MME8 (EW)

ALL

MODELS

MME3

(EW) CFS+EC

+UKM

SEC0 (NO SE)

2.1 1.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.4 0.2 0.0 0.2 0.9

SEC8

(last 8 years)

4.3 7.1 1.4 1.4 7.5 1.4 0.4 2.2 3.8 8.6

SEC21

(all 21 years)

11.2

(0.33 cor)

8.0 0.4 0.4 8.6 0.6 0.1 0.5 2.0 17.0

Explained Variance (%) Feb 1981-2001; lead 3 (Nov starts); monthly T2m (US, CD data)

Explained Variance=Square of Anom Correlation

SEC : Systematic Error Correction; EW : Equal Weights

CFS=CFS, USA; EC=ECMWF; PLA=Max Planck Inst, Germany;

METF=MeteoFrance, France; UKM=UKMetOffice; INGV=INGV, Italy,

LOD=LODYC, France; CERF=CERFACS, France

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Anomaly Correlation (%) Feb 1981-2001; lead 3 (Nov starts); monthly T2m (US, CD data)

WITH SEC8 WITH SEC21

SEC8-SEC21

SEC : Systematic Error Correction

Need more years to determine the SEC where/when the inter annual standard deviation is large

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CONCLUSIONS• Without SEC (systematic error correction) there is no skill

by any method (for presumably the best month: Feb)

• With SEC (1st moment only), there is skill by only a few models (5 out of 8 are still useless)

• MME not good when quality of models varies too much

• MME3 works well, when using just three good models

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CONCLUSIONS (contd)

• CFS improves the most from extensive hindcasts (21 years noticeably better than 8) and has the most skill. Other models have far less skill with all years included.

• Cross validation (CV) is problematic (leave 3 years out when doing 8 year based SEC?)

• Need more years to determine the SEC where/when the inter annual standard deviation is large

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Skill in SST Anomaly Prediction for Nino-3.4[DJF 97/98 to AMJ 04]

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