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DATE: 05-03-2012 CLASSIFIED BY 60324/UC./ba'(T/sab./aio PEA30N: 1.4 (e,d) DECLASSIFY ON: 05-03-2037 ALL HEREIN IS EXCEPT TJJHERE 3HCIll!1!1 OTHER1HSE 11/20/01 b6 b7C b6 b "'" , , 1 '--' , date of birth: was interviewed at the Metropolitan Detention Center. I was introduced to the interviewing Agent and made aware of the nature of the interview by his AttorneYr I l who was not present during the interview. I I was provided with the form entitled "Advice of Rights (FD-395)" which he read aloud, stated he understood and signed. I I thereafter provided the following information: 'entered the United States (U.S.) approximately three months prior to his detention on a two week visitors visa which his mother obtained on his behalf from the united States Embassy in Tel Aviv, Israel. I Idid not know the reason the visa was limited to two weeks as he had previously visited the U.S. in 2000 on a six month Iwas advised by I that the ]position at Urban Moving Company was available after rwas moved from tol 'made arrangements with Urban's to take L 'position prior to to the United States. Upon his arrival in the U. S. , I paid a female attorney, whose name $325 to extend his visa. The attorney would take three to four months to process. _______....... was advised by his friends that as long as I I took steps to extend the visa, it was legal :Jto stay beyond the expiration date of his visa. r knew before he traveled to the United States that he would overstay his visa and that he would be obtaining employment in violation of U.S. law. L 'learned Name Unknown, was engaged in illegal activity at Urban. 1 ....._ ...... 1 explained to 1 .....__...... 1that when r"1--"""1 presented a b6 b7C b6 b7C b6 b7C b6 b7C 11/13/01 BROOKLYN, NY (S)·I__- SAI ----l bl b3 b6 b7C 11/20/01 ----- _

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Page 1: I l I I - Israel Lobby --- 303A-NY-C23… · ALL INFOR1~TION CO~rrAI!~D HEREIN IS t~rcLASSIFIED EXCEPT TJJHERE 3HCIll!1!1 OTHER1HSE 11/20/01 b6 b7C b6 b "'",, 1 '--', date of birth:

DATE: 05-03-2012

CLASSIFIED BY 60324/UC./ba'(T/sab./aioPEA30N: 1.4 (e,d)DECLASSIFY ON: 05-03-2037

ALL INFOR1~TION CO~rrAI!~D

HEREIN IS t~rcLASSIFIED EXCEPTTJJHERE 3HCIll!1!1 OTHER1HSE

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, date of birth: ~ ~' wasinterviewed at the Metropolitan Detention Center. Iwasintroduced to the interviewing Agent and made aware of the natureof the interview by his AttorneYr I l who was notpresent during the interview. I I was provided with theform entitled "Advice of Rights (FD-395)" which he read aloud,stated he understood and signed. I I thereafter providedthe following information:

~ 'entered the United States (U.S.) approximatelythree months prior to his detention on a two week visitors visawhich his mother obtained on his behalf from the united StatesEmbassy in Tel Aviv, Israel. I Idid not know the reasonthe visa was limited to two weeks as he had previously visitedthe U.S. in 2000 on a six month visa.~ Iwas advised by

I ~ that the ]position atUrban Moving Company was available after rwas movedfrom tol ~-l 'made arrangements withUrban's to take L 'positionprior to to the United States. Upon hisarrival in the U. S. , I ~ paid a female attorney, whose name~~~~~~c~a~n_n_o~t~recall, $325 to extend his visa. The attorney~~~~~~ ~~it would take three to four months to process._______....... was advised by his friends that as long as I I tooksteps to extend the visa, it was legal f~rl :Jto staybeyond the expiration date of his visa. r ~ knew before hetraveled to the United States that he would overstay his visa andthat he would be obtaining employment in violation of U.S. law.

L 'learned from~ .....J~

1::::~~Last Name Unknown, was engaged in illegal activity atUrban. 1....._ ......1explained to 1.....__......1that when r"1--"""1 presented a

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moving contract to a customer he would stack numerous papers oneon top of the other, that I Iwould lift each paper for thecustomer to sign, and the customer would sign the papers withoutreading them. I Idid not know the specifics of what wascontained in these papers, but whatever was illegal was contained

on one of these papers. I Ibelieved the illegal activityinvolved overcharging customers.

~ ~served in the Israeli Army as a foot soldierassigned to an anti-tank unit. ~also held an assignmentas a driver for ~ :::::::::::r;hQse~ hadpreviously refused to disclose. to the FBI. ~will notname r Ibecause of his high profile in Israel and

does not want I ~ associated with~"""~because of his actions on September 11th, which has.,.;;.;,;;,,;,::..:..:.J....r---..... to be ashamed. When I Iwas a foot soldier,

ran away when he was denied leave that was due him.~ ..... was arrested for desertion and spent forty five days inthe brig. Upon his release, I I was sent back to his anti-tank unit but was assigned to Headquarters and not with the otherfoot soldiers. I 1 was not given anything to do and he justsat around. I I was soon transferred to a communicationsunit and I refused the transfer. Because of his refusal,

I was thrown in the brig for seven days. Upon hisrelease, I refused to report to his new assignment.I I was thrown in the brig for another seven days. Ir-----was then visited by an Officer who discussed his problems. ThisOfficer then made arrangements fori I to drive for c::J

I lis not an Intelligence Officer.I Iwas discharged from the Army as a First Sergeant.

Upon his release from the Army 1..... 1obtained employmentwith The Jewish Agency as a security guard. This employment wasl lattended aII...-, 1

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told the examine, believe~Iwas issued a handgun by~

and spoke toE:::Jevery one to two days. The Jewish Agency waslocated on the tenth floor of a commercial building housing othernon-Israeli businesses. The business of The Jewish Agency in

Name Unknown,P Although o never

was for three months at The Jewish,..;.;.;;.,,;;;,,;.;...;;;;...;..a. ...&.._......;...;..._---.

addition to assisting Jewish emigration, included instruction ofJewish students. On one occasion a female student was beingsought by an Arab causing I Ito detain the Arab, identifyhim and then escort him from the building. After a three monthassignment I Ireturned to Israel.

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inL: ~aveled to the United States for six months2000. I :Jspent three months in Chicago, Illinois,remodeling homes with I I Last Name Unknown, who owned aconstruction company. I Iwas referred to I Iby 1.....--Last Name Unknown, an acquaintance.

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C....----------------I-in-----l""thlpast, and while visiting the United States has never performedany activity, directly or indirectly, on behalf of the Israeligovernment. I Ihad no involvement in or knowledge of theSeptember 11th attacks in the United States.

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continued to deny anyUpon further discussion,

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interview was stopped~~~~..~--~ requested to speak to hisattorney. Following meeting with Attorney I I

I I provided the following information to SAl J

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During 1~====:::!.I.:t:.r=av.:..:.e:.l_t:.o:.-t=heu. S. in 20';.Q.:o~,.!I===;-1wasreferred byl friend, to ..1 ...1,~r~e:;;.v:::.=.i~o~u~s~lL..;i;,:d~e;,;n~t=i.=f.:i~e;.:::d~t:.::o::....:S~A~~---~~a:;s~I===I~L~a~s~t~N~a~me Unknown ......~:-_:---:::--:---- __""""::":"":-:-_-:-....., ..L.;believedto be the Chicago, Illinois, ..., .a...:.:.:::...;notadvised byl 1 but believesI 11ied about I~==:;I-a-n"':'drl====;-1t:-o-p-r-o~te-c"'7t"'iIr==::::L...who has since returned to Israel. I I believed the FBIwould prevent 1 1return to the United States to continue hisconstruction business. I ~denied engaging in any activitywithl Ion behalf of the Israeli Government.

The following information was obtained through interview andobservation:

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Petah-Tikva, Israel1.82 centimeters85 kilogramsSingle12 yearsOberman at Petah-Tikva, Israel

Name:Race:Sex:Date of birth:Place of birth:Height:Weight:Marital status:Education:

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