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    Lecture 3 – Tuesday, May 24, 2011ES 4498F Engineering Ethics, Sustainable Development and the

    Law

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    *Late*

    *Disciplinary Procedure under the Engineering ct*

     4. Disciplinary owers !Section "8 o# the $ct%

    ! point o" this section has to do #ith reno$ating %ad engineers& Point out 'ista(es o" 

    engineers and teach the' not to do it any'ore

    Duties o# Discipline &ommittee

    "8. '() *he Discipline &ommittee shall+

    )ha$e the right to haul us into court and teach us ho# to act

    ****

    Disciplinary Po#ers and Procedures )o$erhead

    Prosecution "or unla#"ul practice+

    person #ho is not a 'e'%er or licensee o" a pro$incial or territorial ssociation

    %ut #ho ne$ertheless

    ! Practices pro"essional engineering, or! ses the title Pro"essional Engineer, or! ses a ter' or title to gi$e the %elie" that the person is licensed, or! ses a seal that leads to the %elie" that the person is licensed

    is guilty o" an o-ense under the ct&

    ).nly ti'e they go outside o" the engineering co''unity

     The Disciplinary Process

    /tage 1+ athering n"or'ation

    ! o'plainant noties PE.& Me'%er o" egistrar5s sta- discusses co'plaint,

    ad$ising co'plainant o" the (ind o" e$idence necessary& /ta- also assists in

    #ording o" co'plaint in relation to the Pro"essional Engineer5s act&! PE. sta- do a preli'inary in$estigation hiring an E6pert 7itness i" necessary&

    ! o'plaint is signed %y co'plainant and led %y the egistrar, #ho thensends it to the Engineer in 8uestion #ith a period o" ti'e "or a response&

    ! o'plainant is gi$en opportunity "or re%uttal&

    /tage 2+ E$aluation o" the o'plaint

    ! ll 'aterial is presented in condence to the o'plaints o''ittee, #hich

    'ay+

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    o 1& re"er the co'plaint in #hole or in part to the Discipline o''ittee9

    )%ado 2& not re"er the co'plaint9

    o 3& send a letter o" ad$ice to the Engineer #ithout re"erring the case o"

    the Discpline o''ittee9 )a letter o" #arningo 4& ta(e such actions as it considers appropriate under the

    circu'stances )i" people are in danger, #or( #ill stopo :& direct sta- to o%tain 'ore in"or'ation&

    o ;& /ince 1

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    )a lac( o" (no#ledge, s(ill or Audge'ent or disregard "or #el"are o" pu%lic& /u-ering

    "ro' a physical or 'ental condition, not 'a(ing good decisions %ut they5re not

    realiCing it&

    owers o# Discipline &ommittee

    '4) 0here the Discipline &ommittee /nds a member

    )They try doing 'any things instead o" Aust ta(ing %ac( your license

     )can ta(e your license9 can suspend your license9 stop the' "ro' doing certain

    proAects9 'ay test yousend you %ac( to school9 add restrictions such as+

    ! suspend a license such that they can only practice under super$ision o" a

    pro"essional engineer e6pensi$e, you 'ust pay the'F! can not practice engineering alone your #or( al#ays 'ust %e chec(edF

    ! 'ust #rite reports to the Discipline o''itteee6pert on e$erything you doyou pay "or the pri$ilegeF

    they (eep records o" you o" ho# you #ere punished9 i" you #ere a specialist, they

    'ay ta(e the specialiCation a#ay "ro' you9 'ay i'pose a ne to a 'a6i'u' o"

    :000G9 they #ill pu%lish the na'e and co'pany na'es in the =Engineering

    Di'ensions> %oo(, pu%lically, o" #hat you did #rong %ad "or reputation, can ruin

    your %usinessF9 6 and i'pose costs to %e paid e6& la#yers, so'ething you did

    #rongF9 'ay delay the suspension+ =#e5ll decide you5re guilty once you #rite an

    e6a'>, 'ay %e #aiting on physical e$idence or #aiting on a physical or 'ental

    handicap, people 'ay %e te'porarily ill e6& stro(eF and can delay and see i" you

    get %etter&

    ublication o# revocation or suspension

    '1) *he Discipline &ommittee shall cause an order

    )pu%lish that you5re guilty

    ublication on re2uest

    '3) *he Discipline &ommittee shall cause a determination by the

     )clear up i" you5re not "ound guilty

    &osts

    ') 0here the Discipline &ommittee

    )e6& " it #as un#arranted, they 'ay decide to pay "or your la#yer

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    Engineering Ethics+ *he 5urden o# 6esponsibility !in course notes%

    =ichard esponsi%le> ase in a che'ical co'pany

    ! 7here are the engineersH ichard esponsi%le

    ! 7here is the ethical issueHo Du'ping

    o Iot la%eled 7?M/F, not properly trained don5t (no# #hat they5re

    doing, don5t (no# #hat they5re du'pingF onrad areless, not an engineer, is in charge o" #aste

    'anage'ent

    ichard5s responsi%ility in ter's o" the code o" ethics+

    ! Tried going to plant 'anager go to pro"essional in chargeF! onrad told hi' to %ac( o- and said the president (no#s

    o

    %ut there5s still du'ping and he doesn5t (no# i" the president actually(no#s

    ! Mista(es+o ?e is (eeping in"or'ationo%ser$ations to hi'sel", should share his

    (no#ledgeo Dissol$ed hea$y 'etals %eing du'ped into the se#er – he should stop

    the wor7 i''ediately, shouldn5t ha$e #aited until the ne6t 'orning =5' P& Eng, ta(e responsi%ility, do not co'plete this #or(>

    thin( o" pu%lic sa"ety& This is pu%lic5s #aterFo ?e 'ust go "ast to his %oss

    o Must call Ministry o" En$iron'ent

    o

    o'pany 'ight go do#n, %ut he has a greater pu%lic he5s o%ligated tocare "or

    o Must get people trained to (no# ho# to properly re'o$e #aste, 'ust

    %e la%eled according to 7?M/

     Bou ?JE to report up the ladder, i''ediately, until it gets resol$ed&

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    4 ways to thin7 about ethical problems !From tetboo7%

    1F ristotle ethics+ e$ery%ody de$elops $irtues, e$ery%ody desires to %e good %ut

    depends on #hat they thin( is goodF

    ! Engineering ethics e6pects you to de$elop certain $irtues e6& loyalty,

    reasona%le, honest, courteous, "aith"ul, etcF

    2F Theory o" tilitarianis'+ the greatest good "or the greatest nu'%er

    *'issed the 3rd one*

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    7e ha$e certain rights as engineers

    ! ight to "air and ade8uate co'pensation! Per"or' engineering #or(! To %e sel"!go$erning

    4F Kant+ all %orn #ith a sense o" duty

    7e ha$e 'any duties in code o" ethics

    ! Pu%lic sa"ety! Must report! Must disclose

    *he Engineering Design rocess !overhead%

    1& ecogniCe that a pro%le' or need e6ists&

    2& ather in"or'ation and dene the pro%le' to %e sol$ed or goal to %e achie$ed&

    3& enerate alternati$e solutions or 'ethods to achie$e the goal&

    4& E$aluate %enets and costs o" alternati$e solutions&

    :& Ma(e a decision and opti'iCe the situation&

    ;& 'ple'ent the %est solution&

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    *etboo7 age "14+ $ccepting a ob o:er

    ! ccepted one Ao% %ut she #ants another! Ethical pro%le'+ ?onoura%leH LoyalH! sn5t an engineer yet so act doesn5t /TTLB apply to her, %ut she needs to

    sho# good character, and do #hat you say you5re going to do! ode+ Loyalty, disclosure